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Wrote an api library for php (api version 2). You can download it at http://funny15.com/friendf...
nurettin topal, beersage, Rishabh Mishra (p248) and 3 other people liked this
It is hosted on GoogleCode: http://code.google.com/p...
- Nikolai Kordulla
says:This project currently has no downloads. :)
- mehmetkose
Proof that Google is racist.
polymath22, Chirag Chamoli, Igor Sereda and 140 other people liked this
holy shit...
- Rafael
Uh.. WHOA!
- Linda Lawrey
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the people at Google put this in there on purpose.
- Akiva
lol - conspiracy!
- Jesse Stay
They may want to add an exception for that, though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
are u serious thomas? wtf?
- teymur madjderey
annoying popup, but... http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-bi...
- motownmutt
If you're banking on Google to recover your car after a grand thief auto, you might want to try other resources. Bing?
- Micah
Me and my family just picked ourselves up off the floor and dried our eyes after ROFL'ing profusely at this...
- Rahsheen?
LOL! <sarcasm>I am going to go talk to the Race Czar's about this immediately!</sarcasm>
- EricaJoy
if you search for "blakc peolpestole my car" you can see the same result.. just change for the correct one and take a print screen... hahaha this is hell funny
- Rafael
FAIL!
- Wayne Sutton
huh...I tried both and neither gave a 'did you mean....' Why the difference?
- George Gray
George, this was from earlier. I think it's probably been fixed by now.
- Thomas Hawk
I can't reproduce the results either. Even more proof that Google's damage control department works real f-a-s-t
- BLOGBloke
I can reproduce these results (as it's fake). 1 - Do a google search for 'balck people stole my car' 2 - when the results come back, in the search box type 'white people stole my car'. 3 - Screenshot and fool everyone.
- Will Higgins™
Thomas...ah...I was catching up on my feed and didn't notice when the message posted. Still, I have noticed different results when using Google from: the browser search bar, going right to google.com and when logged into google via iGoogle. Weird.
- George Gray
This reminds me of how commercials for home alarm systems always feature white criminals.
- Akiva
Dude, you win 1000 times over for use of the word 'colored'. I'm about as far from a racist as you can get but that shit cracks me up every time.
- Akiva
これはひどい
- as365n2
i think that google isnt racist, but people that use it yes..infact google shows firstly the most popular results.....this is my opinion..and please apologize me formy english..i'm italian!w La pizza!
- Lyssa
they did it as the Chinese government did.
- xia
seems they fix it somehow.
- Mike
Lyssa's right. Google is a mirror.
- Jim #TeamMonique
*Now* "white people stole my car" beats "black people stole my car" in a Google Duel, 3:1
- Tim Tyler
I sense a really nasty meme being created :-(
- Ian D. Nock
That's it, I'm going to Ask.com! lol
- Bryan R. Adams
paranoid approaches.
- takmaz
I posted that a couple days ago and someone debunked it almost immediately.
- Ben Hanten
再現できないが.....
- jx0
google is funny! i stole the car
- HansVanRock
Oh wowwww ... SMH lol
- Iesha G
old wives tale http://www.inquisitr.com/34819...
- Laura Norvig
Double posts from FriendFeed to Twitter? Anybody else getting this?
polymath22, Melanie Couzner, Chatsohbet and 5 other people liked this
I have same problem
- 落后青年李三海
Yep.
- Alex Lomas
Yes Yes
- Mark Horne
It's being going on intermittently for a while now.
- Space & Astronautics News
I have the problem
- forcode
Space, I've done this for months and it just started for me! Hopefully it doesn't last because I have to turn off the Twitter connection which in turn means that they don't go to Facebook anymore. I don't see what the Friendfeed guys would have changed to create this behavior unless it was on the Twitter end. Anything to do with new version of Firefox?
- beersage
Double posts from FF to FB -- as well as FF no longer updating FB status; only posting to Wall. Something fishy going on at FF: a surfeit of new issues, and ... no response. At all. Kinda ominous....
- Matthew Weymar
I also have double posts to twitter since yesterday
- Alexandros Georgiadis
I am getting double posts from FriendFeed to Facebook as well -- sucks. You would think since they are owned by Facebook they could at least get that part right. I agree with Matthew -- this seems sort of like circling the toilet bowl.
- Brian Sullivan
I think it happens only from bookmarklet or other feeds, not with direct posts.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
I have the FF to FB problem.
- AJ Batac
I've actually cut all connection between FF and Twitter and some items are still going through -- and some are doubled. This needs to be fixed immediately.
- Cliff Gerrish
I'm not having a problem with double posts, but I don't have FB connected to Friendfeed either.
- Karoli
I think this has something to do with FriendFeed's implementation of Oauth with Twitter.
- Cliff Gerrish
Same here, I even have some RSS feeds still pulling blogs I had disconnected earlier this week
- Yann Ropars
Bump for the above comment. All my disconnected feeds are still posting, I think.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The best answer to an exam question ever - http://www.facebook.com/...
ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤, WoH: Professor MOTHRA, Dennis Jernberg and 8 other people liked this
"HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid term. The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well : Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions...
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- Eric - seven eleven
from Bookmarklet
Is this the only good answer? that's a shame.
- ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL
I got this from a Facebook group, so I have no idea as to the validity.
- Eric - seven eleven
yeah i was just reading it there too, though I really am not sure what Teresa told really.
- ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL
Teresa must be thrilled about her Internet fame
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
This is like 25 years old...
- Alex Schleber
Really. I had never heard of it before. Sorry. That's what I get for referencing Facebook groups.
- Eric - seven eleven
New Video of Challenger Disaster Surfaces After 24 Years - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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J.D. Deutschendorf, Mark Layton, Kol Tregaskes and 12 other people liked this
Interesting to see the first-person response to this. Wonder why it was undiscovered for 20+ years.
- Louis Gray
That is trouble George!
- Adrian
I remember watching that at school
- Rodfather
Rod: I was thinking the same thing... 5th grade
- Bren
Everyone was in shock.
- Rodfather
i was in high school. actually, i skipped out of my morning classes and was sleeping in. came to my afternoon classes and everyone was freaked out. my drama teacher had been videotaping the launch and played it back for me.
- Hieronymous Boosh
Wow.
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
Like I said...Still hard to watch after 24 years. I remember watching this with my Mom and the two of us just not believing what we were seeing and hearing.
- Mark Krynsky
I was in Indonesia at the time and didn't learn about it until later. Still sad nonetheless. People around the world recognized the significance.
- Jesse Stay
aye, also in school, lunch period, the TV was setup in the chemistry lab for those of us who wanted to watch the launch :|
- Michael W. May
Heard about it from a friend on the bus on the way to school. Freshmen year in high school. Onizuka was a local hero already at that point.
- Josh Haley
I was in homeroom. The classmate who brought the attendance sheet to the main office came back and told our homeroom teacher and she turned on the radio. Horrible.
- Kevin Fox
I had just graduated from college and was living at my parents house. I slept in that day. When I got up, I went out in the front yard to get the newspaper and my neighbor told me the shuttle had blown up and everyone was dead. I didn't believe him. I had to go in the house and turn on the TV before I believed it.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I haz a sad now. You do know that the Challenger crew survived all the way down till they hit he water?
- Roberto Bonini
I did know that.
- Kevin Fox
Yeah. The flight recorders kept functioning and recorded the astronauts. I don't think that audio has ever been released.
- Roberto Bonini
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
beersage, Paul Papadimitriou, Laura Norvig and 22 other people liked this
Will be live in a few minutes!
- Robert Scoble
t - 2 min and no video http://www.building43/realtim...
- Chris Jackson
and just as i speak - there is video.....
- Chris Jackson
I'm standing by waiting for call.
- Robert Scoble
Brett Slatkin is our special guest, software engineer at Google on AppEngine.
- Robert Scoble
cool, welcome Brett :)
- Susan Beebe
waiting for a call here too B-)
- Brett Slatkin
follow for correct b43 url
- Steve Gillmor
Awesome, Go Brett! GAE and PubSubHubbub FTW!
- Julien
Brett - will there be any mention of django in this segment?
- Chris Jackson
There can be! Whatcha want to talk about with Django specifically?
- Brett Slatkin
Any minute now. I just joined in.
- Robert Scoble
Do test patterns still make sense in this "modern" world?
- Bob Wyman
Hey Bob
- Brett Slatkin
well - im new to django and the main reason to use django was so i can get femiliar with python so later on move to GAE.
- Chris Jackson
It's on! Echo from @scobleizer :)
- Julien
Brett Slatkin, Robert Scoble and Kevin Marks now on GillmorGang Live at: http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
Dave Winer :)
- Susan Beebe
Are you still hearing an echo? I'm not.
- Robert Scoble
no
- Susan Beebe
No echo here.
- Ken Sheppardson
audio is great here in philly
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Light pinging causes "thundering herds"
- Bob Wyman
No more...
- Julien
has he posted the fact that he's changed his mind? ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear : he did :)
- Julien
You don't.
- Darren
Bear, it was on his blog.
- Bob Wyman
oh poo - everytime I think I can make a fun/somewhat-snarky joke I get bit
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
PSHB is a great protocol... we've got some exciting real-time stuff coming out next week that uses it.
- Matt M (inactive)
Hi Brett, Julien.
- Darren
bear -- "It's often mentioned as the reason people prefer PubSubHubBub over rssCloud. By providing for a fat ping, we erase that advantage. Now the two methods are at least at parity, with an edge to rssCloud because, once CloudPipe is done, it will work for clients that are behind firewalls and NAT, and PSHB does not." -- http://scripting.com/2009...
- Ken Sheppardson
I want to know if there's going to be a cheesy RSSCloud video.
- Cliff Gerrish
Who isn't blocked by him? Welcome to the crowd...
- Bob Wyman
:D
- Julien
I'm not, *ducks* :)
- Susan Beebe
Yay! A lot of companies... and much more to come!
- Julien
I like where he's going with this. :)
- Darren
Cliff - is there a video for PubSub??
- Chris Jackson
Chris, this one is the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Matt M (inactive)
:)
- Chris Jackson
Julien :)
- Susan Beebe
Brett : we're just starting to see Netvibes hooks at Superfeedr for Tumblr and Posterous's hubs :)
- Julien
rssCloud is still *different* in that it addresses pumping data through firewalls. However, there are many (including myself) that consider that a "bug" not a feature. PSHB is server to server protocol and leaves that server to client protocol as a distinct question. Thus, PSHB systems can integrate with long-polls, XMPP, WebSocket, etc. -- whatever is best for the specific application....
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- Bob Wyman
yea - suprfeeder!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Julien - coool ;)
- Susan Beebe
Nice.
- Darren
yup... I wonder what Greader is doing now :)
- Julien
I use XMPP to consume PSHB pings with AppEngine, behind my firewall. It's about 10 lines of code on GAE.
- Matt M (inactive)
Yes! mistakes : undifferentiated callback url !
- Julien
agreed - having the same callback url for multiple streams is the worst
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Matt - is the xmpp support included in GAE? and do you have a url with the 10 lines of code??
- Chris Jackson
Diff'ing is atcually the hardest thing I think
- Julien
We tell them :)
- Julien
http://pubsubhubbub-xmpp.appspot.com/ is the basic client I've set up.. I should zip up the source and put it up there.
- Matt M (inactive)
thnx
- Chris Jackson
yes, please
- Ward Mundy
Chris, xmpp on AppEngine is amazingly simple. I've worked with xmpp for many years and still can't get over how easy the GAE made it to use.
- Bob Wyman
http://notifixlite.appspot.com/ is another example, source on github
- Julien
RSS + PubSubHubbub should be _hidden_ from the end user...
- Julien
@Julien absolutely! User shouldn't even know the stuff is there.
- Bob Wyman
Does the NY Times use PSHB for their feeds?
- Cliff Gerrish
No but I'm Julien would be happy to help them out.
- Darren
I'm sure happy to help :)
- Julien
Do they want to be helped out?
- Cliff Gerrish
We haven't even begun to see what the real-time applications are. This is like the web was back in 1993... You ain't seen nothing yet.
- Bob Wyman
Status.net/Identi.ca is putting PubSubHubbub at the core of its new redesign. I think it's an interesting usecase
- Julien
Absolutely. We generally see ~90% reduction in polling infrastructure costs.
- Darren
@Darren ; can I reuse that number?
- Julien
Definitely.
- Darren
I put that source up for the PSHB<->XMPP gateway on GAE: http://pubsubhubbub-xmpp.appspot.com/src...
- Matt M (inactive)
We're working on some great prototype for PBP on sports sites.
- Julien
It's just a minimal gateway example.. Julien's example or push-bot is more appropriate if you want a more pleasant experience.
- Matt M (inactive)
I'm on Skype now, sorry for the lateness, traffic hosed me
- Kevin Marks
Think of all the "mobile" apps on phones that are basically just "alerting" apps of one kind or another. Once we have a general infrastructure we'll see a tremendous number of specialized feeds being generated at vastly lower cost than what it takes to build this stuff today.
- Bob Wyman
Kevin :)
- Susan Beebe
Is Apple's notification platform built on Jabber?
- Matt M (inactive)
nothing prevents PSHB from being another endpoint on an xmpp/amqp messaging backend
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
OMB + Salmon + WebFinger + Activity Streams = A Beautiful Thing
- Darren
@Matt --yes, it uses xmpp (modern name for jabber)
- Bob Wyman
video can be done in the same was as jingle is done
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Matt : nope... it's webhooks based
- Julien
@Bob... oh, maybe I'm wrong
- Julien
Julien, now if status.net were intelligible re: installation, setup for geeky, but not ubertechie, users.
- Karoli
Would love to see YouTube PUSH.
- Darren
@Bob - oops.. I keep slipping back to the Jabber name. :)
- Matt M (inactive)
RT @Darren : Would love to see YouTube PUSH :)
- Julien
Robert - Google profile idea is awesome :)
- Susan Beebe
@Robert : feed readers could already indicated that, because they know what feed is hubbub-enabled
- Julien
If Google Reader implemented PubSubHubbub, they could show that!
- Julien
Today, we have the "web browser" which is a general tool for polling data resources. It seems reasonable to assume that in the future, we'll end up with yet-another-app which is the general tool for handling push data. Some startup will have great fun inventing that general push-client application. Today, most push apps require custom code. In the future, we'll use common apps to handle *all* feeds.
- Bob Wyman
Bob - isn't that kinda what google wants to do with Wave?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yes, Cliqset does that as well.
- Darren
Bob Wyman : isn't it what Seesmic/Tweetdeck will eventually build?
- Julien
It's a shame that email is so fragmented and busted... IMAP already does all this stuff reasonably well. :)
- Matt M (inactive)
Mike, Julien, etc. Yes, just like there were many hypertext readers before TBL's took over the world. (I even had one....) Many people are trying to figure out what the push thing will look like. Somebody is going to figure it out, but I don't think they've done it yet.
- Bob Wyman
Bob - I remember the days before Mosaic and all of the protocol soup that was required to navigate the 'net back then
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Louis is a smart cookie :)
- Susan Beebe
@Mark : TwitterFeed is a PubSubHubbub subscriber so that works too
- Julien
I think real-time push is going to be blocked on WebSocket adoption. Long-polling HTTP is hard to do right.
- Matt M (inactive)
YELL LOUDER :)
- Susan Beebe
Matt, what on earth would the benefit be of blocking real-time push? that makes no sense
- Karoli
@Brett : send them real-time pings every 10 seconds :)
- Julien
Karoli, I meant blocked from a software-development point of view, waiting for browsers to support this universally.
- Matt M (inactive)
Matt, not really. They'll work together. Server-to-Server PUSH, Server to UserAgent Websockets, Long polling, etc.
- Darren
@Matt, Long polling has been surprisingly hard. I think it really became widely known back in '98 or '99 and there has even been the mod-pubsub module for Apache since about that time -- but, it was still too hard. WebSocket will definitely make all this vastly easier!
- Bob Wyman
I've wanted to work with long-polling for a while, but it's so finicky and hard to get right. Jetty and Apache support that stuff with a bit of configuration, but it's never hit a critical mass and become as easy as bog-standard HTTP.
- Matt M (inactive)
Brett : stop moving from left to right, you're making me sea sick ::
- Julien
matt - switch to nginx ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Sorry my chair was being weirdo
- Brett Slatkin
:D
- Julien
@bear - I've been eyeing Node.js a bit lately for that one ;) But it's definitely hard to find infrastructure that supports push over HTTP well - and each one has its own way of doing things.
- Matt M (inactive)
Julien & Brett LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
matt - node.js? you may have the same browser issues as you would if you went to websockets now
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Check out the first version of Nexus One's logo! (correct link) http://bit.ly/6hkwZq
- Miguel
PSHB + Salmon + WebFinger
- Bob Wyman
agree completely - WebFinger + xrds and then PSHB + Salmon
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Push is hard in the browser right now, but I hope that with one canonical push-capable websocket standard we'll start to see better support across the board for proxies to pass it through, as well as some standard patterns for dealing with it on the server side.
- Matt M (inactive)
Google Profile - could be master social profile ...hmmm
- Susan Beebe
@Susan... "Google Profile" will only be *one* of many profile services. The cool thing about WebFinger is that it allows users to choose between many different "profile" providers that are all discoverable in the same way.
- Bob Wyman
Yes!
- Darren
Evan doesn't use FriendFeed :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Status.net FTW!
- Julien
Love that Scoble idea. WOW!
- David Damore
Bob - cool :)
- Susan Beebe
We need these to be broadcast for us right coasters :(
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Julien - what is FTW ?
- Chris Jackson
Chris - For The Win (YAY!)
- Susan Beebe
:) - oh - im getting old...
- Chris Jackson
hehe
- Susan Beebe
Mobile will be a big driver for "real-time" data. Is it raining? Is my bus late? Is there a traffic jam ahead? Do I have new email? Is there news since I left the office? Has the meeting started? Is Gilmore on live? This is all stuff you want to know when you're walking around.
- Bob Wyman
Palm Pre - LOL ... what's that?! :)
- Susan Beebe
Palm CEO is a dork - I've never used an iPhone - FAIL ... no wonder Palm is dying DOH!
- Susan Beebe
Google Contact sync on the iPhone/Android is a huge win for me. Mail, Calendar and Contacts are the big things I need on the phone all the time - they are always up to date.
- Matt M (inactive)
Use Google contacts EVERY day... would love a nexus one phone. I use the 'exchange' feature on iPhone for push with my gContacts
- Susan Beebe
We already use Twitter to make phone calls through Google Voice. Works great.
- Ward Mundy
Oh yea, I don't get google voice on my iPhone either Grrr
- Susan Beebe
@Susan, ditto. I started using the Facebook contact picture sync too.
- Matt M (inactive)
What's funny is that all my facebook friend's pictures ended up getting pushed back into google contacts. :)
- Matt M (inactive)
Matt - same here FB sync is cool
- Susan Beebe
Somebody's going to have to break up the Google monopoly of open source social networking developers...
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, working on that...
- Kevin Marks
Hah... nice, Kevin :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
LOL --> "way above my paygrade" :) nice
- Susan Beebe
Is ping.fm heavily used? After Twitter and Facebook integration, it seems like a good idea for a third-place 3rd-party integration bit for startups
- Matt M (inactive)
/me hides his Seesmic badge
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Google should buy Seesmic / Ping.fm ... great idea
- Susan Beebe
That is, Facebook has a head start.
- Ken Sheppardson
@bear : I can't be the only advocate for PubSubHubbub at Seesmic :)
- Julien
We MUST have open protocols to ensure that no one can "own" your data. Where you put your data should be based on who gives you the best service, not just who you accidently gave it to first -- and you should be able to move your data whenever you want. The key is open protocols.
- Bob Wyman
Julien - oh, trust me - i've been bending some ears on that :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Errrr.... WebFinger doesn't actually require an "email address." Its just that that is what people will normally use.
- Bob Wyman
Is Cliqset building their system on a Google-acquisition-target-friendly platform?
- Ken Sheppardson
you should be able to use a JID for webfinger - right?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Bob webfinger wants an email-like identifier; facebook doesn't have one. FB, twitter have url-like IDs
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin Right. It is "email-like" but not necessarily actually an email identifier.
- Bob Wyman
How has this conversation gone on for nearly an hour without any Apple tablet speculation? Y'all call yourself tech experts? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It's old news Ken
- Brett Slatkin
one of the reasons I like this show - it's not a mirror of "mainstream" tech news
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The code name for tablet is 'phone.'
- Cliff Gerrish
BTW, is there any bubblegum left, Brett?
- Ken Sheppardson
Yes
- Brett Slatkin
Should eBay it.
- Ken Sheppardson
Feature creep - love that :) -- Not sure about homogeneous app platform either
- Susan Beebe
Best part about having Robert on the show is the random holding up of stuff.
- Ken Sheppardson
The future of app development for mobile is Appcelerator and Phonegap and other stuff that paves over the differences.
- Matt M (inactive)
Ken: :-)
- Robert Scoble
web apps is the answer?
- Tim Jones
My Apple mouse has no buttons. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, HTML5
- Ken Sheppardson
i agree with matt on that. appcelerator, phonegap & rhomobile should win because they're built on the open web.
- Josh Fraser
Web apps is a very good answer, Tim. HTML5 et al
- Kevin Marks
This is like the effect the Apple Human Interface Guidelines had on GUI / HCI for personal computing.
- Cliff Gerrish
Developing different apps for iPhone, Android, Palm webOS, et al is like having to develop different apps for Firefox, Chrome, IE, etc
- Ken Sheppardson
Yea, I have 200 bucks in iPhone apps...ouch, plus the 500 bucks for the 3GS and the contract
- Susan Beebe
We'll see more of "apps" that run in the cloud which have their interfaces running on devices. Apps will be independent of interfaces. iPhone, Android, Palm, etc. "apps" will be just interfaces to common back-end apps.
- Bob Wyman
17% smartphone penetration only, more users coming online not tied down yet
- Tim Jones
@Josh - yeah, exactly.. it's like a web app+ (the plus being access to optional per-platform features)
- Matt M (inactive)
this has been a great show...gotta run.
- Karoli
Bob: Sure, but the interface should to some extent be a function of the app, not the platform. I want gmail to look like gmail... the same interface... independent of which 3" touch-screen device I'm using.
- Ken Sheppardson
writing web apps for different browsers is now becoming trivial, but it's also taken us 10 years to get here. i wonder how much faster that will happen on the mobile web.
- Josh Fraser
iPhone developers tell me that Android is easier to build apps for
- Susan Beebe
Native iPhone and Android apps both require learning a platform first, which kind of sucks.
- Matt M (inactive)
Josh - I think it will be MUCH faster - cell phone adoption has grown faster than computer adoption ever did - and it has also made drastic advances on a faster timeline.
- Rob La Gesse
Would be slick if there were cross-platform standards for the device APIs, so my HTML5 app could just access GPS functionality, for example, and not care whether I'm on android or iphone or something else.
- Ken Sheppardson
IMHO: in 10 years, phones will ship with pico projectors and virtual keyboards/mice.
- Matt M (inactive)
Ken, your HTML5 app can do that - see geo.js http://diveintohtml5.org/geoloca...
- Kevin Marks
@rob, i agree. it largely depends on how long it takes for apple to open up.... which probably depends on how well the nexus does on sales.
- Josh Fraser
was UI a part in selling baziilion RAZRs?
- Tim Jones
@matt 10 years??? how about 2-5?
- Josh Fraser
Keyboards and mice may not be a primary interaction model in 10 years.
- Cliff Gerrish
GREAT SHOW :)
- Susan Beebe
Ok that's amazing! got roughly 20 emails from people listening to the show!
- Julien
Cliff, maybe - but there are always times where you can't interact verbally with your phone (classroom, meeting setting, bathroom ;)).
- Matt M (inactive)
Come along to http://tummelvision.tv on twit.tv tonight
- Kevin Marks
Best of luck Julien ;)
- Susan Beebe
I'm thinking Natal.
- Cliff Gerrish
that was fun. nice job guys.
- Josh Fraser
Natal for mobile?
- Matt M (inactive)
Kevin: Now if they could just shove contacts, calendars, camera, etc into HTML5, we'd be set (ala http://developer.palm.com/index...)
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks for watching everyone!
- Brett Slatkin
Thanks for the great show, all... interesting as usual.
- Matt M (inactive)
I think Palm made the best initial choice for a mobile platform overall betting on web-style apps. You can't do everything in HTML/JS, but you can do a *lot*.
- Matt M (inactive)
Brett - Thank YOU - great show :)
- Susan Beebe
Missed it again. One of these days I'll set this show straight on RSSCloud!! ; )
- Matt Terenzio
I remember when everyone would complain because it would take Steve 2 weeks to post a show to the RSS feed. Now I just sit back and wait 10 days till it hits the bootleg feed and am grateful for what I can get :)
- Christian Burns
The realtime connection from Twitter to FriendFeed is back! (thanks to Twitter's "birddog" api)
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Very good!
- Kurt Starnes
Sweetness!
- Alex Scrivener
wow, that makes actually want to use Twitter. I may just go tweet something.
- Mike Nencetti
It should be even faster than that Jorge, but our systems are getting near their limit. I hope to have it down to 1 sec sometime next month.
- Paul Buchheit
Thank god!
- Miguel Caetano
Great news!
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Jorge, everyone can access the streaming api, but you need an agreement to follow a large number of ids. See http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streami...
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks Paul.
- Roberto Bonini
that cool. Thanks Paul
- Peter Dawson
Yay! That's fantastic! I was getting really bored of manually refreshing it every time I tweeted. Especially from my phone. :)
- Jandy
Thanks Paul, nice work :)
- LANjackal
wow no posts on the majors yet - usually within mere moments of an announcement we'd have posts.
- Allen Stern
Thank God.
- AlpB.
cool!
- Barbara R. S.
What was the problem?
- Özkan Altuner
Now....if you could just get rid of the @ replies again. I would be very happy.
- Chris Nixon
relief ! :)
- asli subasi | ☮
You are still working on Frienfeed (: how nice !
- mcd
whoa, it took less than a minute. i accdently tested it but it's great :) thnx
- asli subasi | ☮
awesome, keep it up guys, i knew you would not let us down
- Iggy Mwangi
You didn't break the FF Facebook app while you were at it, did you? It hasn't worked since.
- Tim Tyler
Oh, awesome!!! 12 seconds :) I can finally go back to Twitter (...okay no I can't I've turned into a Friendfeed junkie..) but prior it took hours upon hours for me to see a feed. Dumb I am, I never suspected a problem LMAO.
- Hollywood Amanda
Thank you!
- Micah
Awesome news :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
eyvallah hacı
- Mücahit Yılmaz
Cool. Haven't tried it but yay!
- Franc, a rememberer
Yippee! I love real time
- Technogran
Paul ?? Twitter updates facebook status and then facebook creates a new feed here on friendfeed. So we have same entries both from twitter and facebook on friendfeed. Could you guys please work on how we can avoid duplicate entries? Thank you. ( If there's already a way to avoid this, pls let me know)
- mcd
Cool, thanks, Paul! :-) RT Twitter updates have been missed. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And just as I say that, I see my tweets are not coming into FF in real-time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
awesome.; thank you a lot..
- Jaap Willem
:)
- ★ Soner Gönül
Oh, so nice to have that back again.
- Hutch Carpenter
Johnny, cool. Just me then. It's still slow. Maybe it's FriendFeed then?
- Kol Tregaskes
It truncates retweets, even in the middle of a link...
- Vezquex
seems that there are only 140chars allowed for a tweet (on FF) and the new twitter retweets are being translated on the way through to old RT @name style - thus are too long.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
not working
- Serhad Makbuloğlu
http://twitpic.com/qn2ee - 35ft Building Jump!
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He haz big ones.
- Shey
I keep watching expecting him not to make it next time.
- Todd Hoff
Serious jump. One mistake... splattt!
- AJ Batac
I told you once and I will say it again some jackass kids are going to see it and do it........
- VALZ/TEAM TRAVIS
DON'T TRY THIS ANYWHERE.
- AJ Batac
I'd say.
- Roberto Bonini
Whoa!
- Kol Tregaskes
Is this another fake jump viral campaign? The middle part of his jump looks a bit fake to me.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I saw this photo last week... could it be the same event? http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news...
- Neil Bernhart
Totally bonkers!
- Son of Groucho
Yup. That's the one Neil.
- AJ Batac
don't know if this is correct or not, but here it is in Turkish: bir aslan gibi topları
- Morgan
@zeigen, of course it will look like bit a fake, we don't see every day boys jumping 35 ft -)
- Cibron Nethis
Video: http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac...
- AJ Batac
crazy, looks like it's raining too
- sean percival
HARDCORE PARKOUR! #theoffice
- EricaJoy
Finally watched the video for Google Goggles. Wow, this is some seriously cool tech - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Try it in real life. It's a nifty demo but it's still much easier to read the label or upc code and search on that. Going from question to answer it has about a 10% hit rate.
- Hayes Haugen
Hayes, have you seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch... Taking old vacation pictures and finding out what the buildings are. The good stuff starts about 4:30 minutes in. :)
- Matt Cutts
So he taking pictures of his computer using his phone, finding out what the object is, then going back to the computer and typing it in? Something seems terribly inefficient about that ;)
- Amit Patel
Amit: my point is that by the time I start the app, take the picture and get a false hit it's faster to just recognize the object myself and search on it (with my phone).
- Hayes Haugen
Matt: like I said it does cool stuff sometimes but as a general purpose tool for identifying the things I run across it has not done well. I'm not claiming anything other than how it's worked for me. Suggest people use the product instead of watching promo videos! And I'm not crapping on the concept - looking forward to its evolution.
- Hayes Haugen
From most recent search history: miss: $20 bill, Norwegian flag, a Sitar, a MacBook, an iPhone, a Leatherman tool, the box for the Leatherman, a Canon Ti, a photo of Venice with a tower. Hit: box of Pepperidge Farm Entertaining Quartet crackers because it recognized "Entertaining Quartet" in huge letters - just like I did. What I really need it to do is recognize things I don't recognize. So I'm off to do some tests....
- Hayes Haugen
The file upload procedure is just plain broke -- is anybody at FriendFeed even interested? About 9 out 10 attempts end up with an endless "processing" cycle.
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For the longest time I couldn't even upload. Then all of a sudden, it started working again.
- Anika
I think they decided to not respond to this group. See profile: "If you're experiencing a bug or issue, please see our <a href="http://friendfeed.com/about...">Contact page</a> to get in touch with us directly."
- NaHi
from m.ctor.org
We're investigating. Are you experiencing this with all file types?
- Paul Buchheit
I haven't had any problem with anything other than mp3 files but I haven't tried any others either.
- Brian Sullivan
The most infuriating part of this is that the failed upload counts against your upload quota.
- Brian Sullivan
I had problems with it this evening, however, I was on mobile broadband. Worked perfectly when I got home and used wifi.
- Keith Bennett
Happened to me a couple weeks ago with an *MB mp3 file.
- beersage
Whats the upload quota?
- beersage
Images generally work for me. An mp3 file took several attempts though.
- Todd Hoff
Apparently you can only upload 3 mp3 files per day (I am guessing per 24 hour period) -- at least that is what the message I got seems to imply. It gives you this message at the end of the upload process -- and you have to wait until the quota is replenished ( though you have no way of knowing when that would be unless you remember when all the upload attempts happened).
- Brian Sullivan
I had some issues uploading .mp3s a while ago (finally just sent them to Posterous and had done with it) - Paul, is there a file size limit? The ones I had were encoded at like 320kpbs, so they were about 9 or 10mb. The smaller ones I did (4-5mb) seemed to have a greater success rate, but I couldn't really test because of the upload limit that counted the failed ones against me.
- Jandy
From what I can tell, the upload problems are caused by S3 errors (we store the files using Amazon S3). I've put in a little more logging and more retries. If you still have trouble uploading files, post the filename and I'll investigate.
- Paul Buchheit
What is really happening during that "processing" cycle? The "upload" part appears to work -- at least the progress bar and time taken is in line with the size of the file. For me it is the "processing" part that has failed.
- Brian Sullivan
The "upload" part is uploading to the FriendFeed servers. The "processing" part is the FriendFeed server uploading to Amazon S3, which is where there are sometimes problems.
- Paul Buchheit
Ah, thanks for clearing that up, Paul.
- Micah
Finding Value Even If I Were the Last FriendFeeder... - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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Can I be Brad Pitt then?
- Johnny
You can be whomever you like, Johnny. And Cristo, thanks. You complete me. (wrong movie?)
- Louis Gray
Dude, I just stuck LEGO in my face http://friendfeed.com/jworthi... don't tempt me :)
- Johnny
I am too competitive to let you be the last
- Jesse Stay
The last to stick LEGO in his face?
- Ken Sheppardson
I left my comment on the blog.
- Mark Krynsky
Agreed Louis. I am still getting new subscriptions on FF ( though not as many as before). FF stays open until the fat lady sings.
- Roberto Bonini
You made very good points, Louis - both why FF has not been surpassed as a solution and why you stating these points is important. Real time has slowed for me in FF so I can actually catch the content and I'm still getting new subscribers. The value I derive from FF is undiminished.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
You had me at "Finding", Louis. ;)
- Grey Drane
Finding Louis? Is that the sequel to Finding Nemo?
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
I so crashed with that not entered big reply, making a post with two OS in virtualization for a screenshot... I'll get back atcha for the usual Disqus thoughtful exercise, I'm not the daily blogger, but I have lots of those ranged comments... my point was with the "even if it's assumed I'm looking denial straight in the face." being an excellent turning for that movie. Finding Louis...
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- Zu from AOD
You're absolutely right. Which is why I'm sticking around, too.
- Dennis Jernberg
You hit the nail on the head.. that's why I'm staying onboard!!
- Chris Myles
You won't be .... I will ... (and Windows 7 was my idea ..... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Good work, Louis, as always.
- Jim #TeamMonique
If Friendfeed went under, it would have to be immediately reinvented. I'm still not getting why so many people don't yet get Friendfeed.
- Sean McBride
This seems really straightfwd - the 20% time won't be enough to implement new features etc. I think it is just a matter of time until someone builds on top of the FF API with new/addtl features and launches a site (hmmm, "FriendDig"? "DigFeed"?). The functionality is too compelling to waste away
- Dave Hodson
My 1st draft explanation of Activity Streams:
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Everybody talks about filtering the real-time stream of information online but the Activity Streams community is the place where those conversations go on between leading engineers at the world's biggest and smallest social networks, with the goal of replacing the "walled garden" model of social networking with an open, interoperable communication marketplace. If Activity Streams succeeds, you will be able to subscribe to and filter the activities of your friends across multiple different networks, without having to sign-up for or even ever have heard of those other networks. This is almost the equivelent of AT&T phones being able to make calls to Verizon phones. Of rail-transport companies being able to ship goods across the country over different railroad networks - because the rails for the trains to run on are the same size. It's different though, because of the granular filtering by type of activity. Applications built on top of Activity Streams will allow the equivilent of a...
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- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Can't wait. And no redundancies, please.
- Laura Norvig
Will be interesting to see how much granularity over permissions the content creators will have. Will I have to just choose "yes" or "no" that anyone who is connected to me anywhere will be allowed to see my stuff? How could greater control work - seems complicated.
- Laura Norvig
Seems a fair point Laura.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Here's a fractal I use that may be useful as a template for Activity Streams... 1) interest-generating opener 2) background on current threats/tension to resolve 3) opportunity or vision of a better state 4) strategy w/steps to get there 5) issues to solve before accepting strategy 6) next steps by stakeholders
- Mark Frazier
This is awesome Marshall. I'm wondering whether we broaden the concept beyond messaging to decentralize the social graph itself, so app developers can leverage existing relationships without having to build on top of a facebook or a twitter...(or perhaps that is implied here?)
- Tony Zito
Marshall ... thanks for the initial explanation... I've been intrigued by all the references to Activity Streams and http://activitystrea.ms/ by people I know and trust - I just haven't had the time to join another mailing list. Just yesterday I was on the site trying to understand more and reading Chris Messina's almost-year-old post: http://factoryjoe.com/blog...
- Dan York
Will this "first draft" evolve into a RWW post?
- Dan York
Dan, it's for our forthcoming research report on the real-time web and its future. Preorders avail at http://www.readwriteweb.com/reports...
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Do you have a pointer to an example activity stream feed?
- Dave Winer
there's an example at the bottom of http://wiki.developer.myspace.com/index...
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I should find a better example than that, a live one to include in article.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Interesting. I've been unplugged from the feed / activity space for a while now. Makes me want to read up more on Activity Streams.
- mikepk
That would be the first thing a developer would look for, something live they could build an app on.
- Dave Winer
Tom's activity feed URL at MySpace is http://api.myspace.com/v1... but MySpace API authentication is required - looking for a live and publicly accessible one
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
aha! cliqset doesn't require authentication to see theirs, http://cliqset.com/feed...
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I wish more specifications came with live, official, reference implementations.
- mikepk
Living Comic Book Costume! Speechless. (Roy Lichtenstein)
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ohe.
- Tugce Cengiz
Cızzt.
- Burak Demiral
ha tamam.
- Ezgi Akyurt
çizgi romanlardaki gibi :/
- Parfe
Daha çok popart (Roy Lichtenstein) posterlerinin canlandırması :)
- sunipeyk
Aynen öyle sunipeyk. Çok iyi etmişler
- Tugce Cengiz
So. Damn. Cool.
- Spidra Webster
Very cool!
- Kol Tregaskes
Halftone costume. That is awesome.
- Josh Haley
That's a really cool idea.
- Jordan Hofker
meh.. I want to see the final photos. Tha'd be cool. Kind of like Alice in Wonderland.
- Franc, a rememberer
You too can be a Roy Lichtenstein painting!
- Dennis Jernberg
Dennis :))
- Tugce Cengiz
korkunç
- Ayhan A. Birlik (AAB)
korkunç mu?
- Tugce Cengiz
evet, ben bukarakterle karşılaşırsam korkarım...
- Ayhan A. Birlik (AAB)
yapanla karşılaşırsan tebrik etmeni değiştirmez ama sanırım :)
- Tugce Cengiz
muhakkak ki değiştirmez :)
- Ayhan A. Birlik (AAB)
bayııııl
- davsanlik
Bu çalışmanın neden ve kim tarafından yapıldığını öğrenebileceğimiz bir link olsaymış.
- Jegraphy
merak ne güzel şey, güzel şey merak ;) MAC'in makyözlerinden biri yapmış..Maalesef kendisini yaptığı şeyden daha değerli bulup belirtmemişler ismini.
- Tugce Cengiz
harikaaaa
- mahir
yuh, süper..
- Aylin
Bizde de Ebru Gündeş'in makyözü var işte çok konuşulan..
- Tugce Cengiz
olacaksan böylesi ol! :)
- Tugce Cengiz
hımm...estetik bi androit:) ne hoş:)
- neferteti
Wow! That's pretty neat.
- Arlan K.
Unbelievable. Color me impressed!
- Fossil Huntress
Fantastic ! I wana try this with a Picasso !
- Desirade
I wonder about the results of "Dali" version....
- Olcayto Cengiz
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Looks like Bret Taylor of Facebook is talking with the Gang....
- Cliff Gerrish
Hopefully Bret shows up. Otherwise we'll be forced to talk about Twitter's new lists feature and you know where THAT will lead!
- Robert Scoble
I want to get a few words in about http://bit.ly/Spawn on Gillmor Gang today
- Kevin Marks
we will start in a minute.
- Robert Scoble
Only 13 viewers?
- beersage
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a live studio audience.
- Cliff Gerrish
Oops, missed my calendar notification for this week's episode.
- Matt M (inactive)
The names have not been changed to protect the innocent...
- Aron Michalski
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a real-time web audience...
- Kevin Marks
I'm happy to see a simplification of the Facebook API. That's one issue I've always had with the platform. The initial learning curve is very steep.
- Matt M (inactive)
Scoble still wants to port your email address out of Facebook...
- Cliff Gerrish
I don't have enough friends in my email address book to make Scoble's screen look busy enough
- Aron Michalski
I did a little hacking on this with @bradfitz's code at http://unmung.appspot.com
- Kevin Marks
The question is should Scoble be able to send your email address to another platform, or another application.
- Cliff Gerrish
Do I have to agree to TOS with Scoble or does he have to agree with me?
- Aron Michalski
Facebook is the intermediary. Although you have a social contact with Scoble.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: I did a brute force workaround. I just manually copied the email addresses I wanted into Outlook myself.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's the programatic access that can lead to looting of addess books.
- Cliff Gerrish
The TOS doesn't forbid me from doing that and it only took a few hours.
- Robert Scoble
Cliff: yeah, but sorry, if you are a spammer you just go to Mechanical Turk and pay someone to do it.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, I agree. But the question is should Facebook facilitate the process?
- Cliff Gerrish
Putting money in front of a spammer's problem will reduce the amount of spam dramatically (which is why spammer probably won't use mturk). Maybe Facebook should charge per-user/per-transaction fees to extract email addresses?
- Matt M (inactive)
"Facebook is an identity platform." Very interesting competitive landscape -- Twitter, Google, MSFT, Comcast?
- Cliff Gerrish
"Your inside is out, and your outside is in"
- Cliff Gerrish
Comcast? You mean Plaxo?
- Ken Sheppardson
"Open Graph API" is a really confusing name for adding webpages to FB as feeds
- Kevin Marks
Actually I'm thinking of Comcast making Cable available through the Network for its users.
- Cliff Gerrish
And the topic of attention and identity which were of interest to a small group of us is now an issue for a very large group of users.
- Aron Michalski
Haven't checked the roadmap but I wonder if there will be more possibilities for API use with pages and not just the main FB friend stream.
- beersage
Seems like financial institutions have a better identity play, but they're hopeless with this kind of thing. Credit Cards have a jump on it. Telecoms could also have an opening.
- Cliff Gerrish
Does the open graph address pages or items in a stream?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone ask about the problem of Facebook owning our social graph?
- Kurt Jarchow
so FB's "Open Graph API" is the opposite of the Social Graph API that reveals existing connections.
- Kevin Marks
This aspect is interesting, in that presence on the internet for a long time could be anonymous and now the value will be from having a unified ID.
- Aron Michalski
So it Bret saying it's just marketing spin at this point? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
You'll see that the owners of the pipe, the bankers and the retailers all want to know who we are so they can get paid.
- Aron Michalski
can we identify the source of the metadata item and allow for filtering of what's a valid linkage?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert, are you coming out for SideWiki for Facebook profiles?
- Cliff Gerrish
:-)
- Robert Scoble
wonder if Bret saw the Realtime chat games orkut launched http://code.google.com/apis...
- Kevin Marks
shared labels - is what i would like to see
- Bastian
For 'movies' shouldn't I just be able to pipe my Netflix data over?
- Cliff Gerrish
Netflix already exports Activity Streams of your movies - FB should read them
- Kevin Marks
Yes, rather than building a new and separate data set. Our combining the sets.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret really shouldn't speak of FriendFeed in the past tense.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: FriendFeed is not getting new engineering work.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah he said "was"...
- Bastian
It's often more revealing to hear how people talk about things indirectly than to hear them answer direct questions.
- Ken Sheppardson
better late than never...i'll have to catch the first 30 minutes on replay.
- Karoli
Friendfeed's conversations aren't duplicated by any of the other players.
- Cliff Gerrish
Why would FB buy FF if they weren't headed down that road? To use it or kill it?
- Aron Michalski
Interesting to hear the idea of protocols driven by User Interfaes in the realtime space.
- Cliff Gerrish
FriendFeed is still rolling out features: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Tinfoil 2.0
I totally agree with Robert. The Friendfeed search is incredibly powerful and useful.
- Karoli
Permalinks for stream items is a critical feature.
- Cliff Gerrish
how long has Bret been in the FB world :) - he's being asked questions about future growth and planning that he may not have even been in the meetings that cover those new items yet :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
FB conversations are fractured, across different pages and places. Mobile experience can be a cul de sac of death for a conversation...
- Aron Michalski
my criticism of Facebook has nothing to do with the stream. it has to do with the mashup of everyone I've ever known in my entire life.
- Karoli
i think it's great that i see other people's comments when i comment on an item on FB
- Bastian
I'd like my stream to show me things that I initially reject, and then later come to accept.
- Cliff Gerrish
Facebook represents my "real" social network only as it existed 25 years ago.
- Ken Sheppardson
we need more depth as to what a "friend" is - need to factor in FOAF items
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ken, i wish it was that way. It has pieces of every aspect and social graph I've had for my entire life.
- Karoli
I'm starting to realize and appreciate Robert as an underdamped dynamic system, oscillating wildly but eventually settling/converging on a steady signal, e.g. the comments today on Wave vs the initial reaction. And I mean that as a compliment, Robert :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
There is plenty of conversations I am glad to leave off of FB; 90% of the people from my past have no clue about any of what we are discussing and don't care.
- Aron Michalski
Ken, yea - that's a great way to describe him. I agree that he should take it as a compliment
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I do.
- Robert Scoble
Again, it is easy to bring content into FB but why can't I subscribe to an RSS feed of a page like I can w/ a Twitter user?
- beersage
my problem: 90% of the people I have contact with in real life have me friended on FB and HATE my politics, leaving me with fluffy little bullshit updates. No conversation. Just nonsense.
- Karoli
The FB pipes need to be full duplex.
- Cliff Gerrish
I think the part of FF we'll never see in FB is the basic lack of walls in FF and the philosophy that anything and everything can flow freely into and out of the system.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, FF may be the outside part of FB.
- Cliff Gerrish
how is the spewing of netflix queuing any different that all of those mafia wars or farm app updates I get on FB ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
If that's the case, Cliff, I'd like to see them embrace that. I may have missed a bunch of signals, but I'm still working on the assumption that FF is feature frozen and will be subsumed into FB.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm glad that neither FF or FB or Twitter will be the hot new toy we all talk about this time next year!
- Bastian
Bastian: Twitter is about to release more new features than it has EVER released. Are you sure we won't be talking about them in a year?
- Robert Scoble
Bastian, where would be talking about whatever we'll be talking about.
- Cliff Gerrish
By the way, Tina says 'hi' to the chat...
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert, only if Twitter survives their own creativity and popularity
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
We should have OpenFF any day now... :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
hi back at Tina :)
- Karoli
Robert is raring to have a discussion about Twitter lists. :)
- beersage
bear: I'm pretty sure that in a year we'll be doing Twitter. Two years, though? Maybe not. Things don't change that fast when they have such momentum.
- Robert Scoble
I'm loving this shot of the studio. Rock on.
- Karoli
Robert: Twitter maybe, but i'm even more excited about new third party tools build on Tiwtter. Even so everything i was told from the people i know at Twitter, there are cool things coming.
- Bastian
yea, that was a great studio shot - nice layout
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
"talking a little about"... so, it's not imminent :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Generalizing twitter to many kinds of Activity Streams is interesting, and I hope Bret picks up on that
- Kevin Marks
The thing about FF & Twitter is that they make it possible to curate a stream of a niche topic and put it into context w/ other content on a website. Lost of potential. With FB, you cant use any valuable stream there outside. Still a walled garden.
- beersage
I have to say, time listening to the Gillmor Gang is always well spent!
- Bastian
yay sponsors!
- Karoli
bye all
- Karoli
good show
- Jamie
Hah, Kevin got cut off. That was a short edition.
- beersage
great show - I am loving the increase in quality discussion and the decrease in loud noises - thanks!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
http://bit.ly/Spawn is Ribbit's launch next Thursday
- Kevin Marks
Defrag is week after next - agenda: http://defragcon.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
leolaporte: The Twitter-Bing deal underscores the problem with data silos. Shouldn't search be universal? They're my tweets, not theirs. - http://twitter.com/leolapo...
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If they're "your tweets" why do you put them in Twitter? The 'silos' argument continues to leak oil. Search is what search vendors make it -- nothing is universal.
- Cliff Gerrish
It's a net neutrality issue. Twitter offers full access to the stream of data (our tweets) only to the highest bidder, not universally. ALL search engines (and others) should have full and equal access to this dataset.
- Leo Laporte
Totally agree with Leo, a worst case scenario is Bing gets exclusive access to both FB and Twitter. At that point everyone needs to get working on PubSubHubBub, rssCloud and/or FriendFeed2 and decentralize social networks. They are becoming a basic communication mechanism and they seem to reside under the control of 3-4 people. Imagine if email had been under the control of 2 companies for the last couple decades.
- Ed Millard
Completely agree with Leo, I wasn't sure of this but they way Leo puts it, makes clear that its net neutrality issue
- Veetrag
Sounds like a nationalize Twitter argument to me. All search engines may spider the public pages. Why should they also have access to Twitter's internals?
- Cliff Gerrish
And since they're "your tweets" why don't you publish them or make them available to search engines yourself. Wouldn't that be the most 'distributed' solution?
- Cliff Gerrish
In addition, it looks like Google will also have a deal with Twitter. The Bing deal is non-exclusive. The introduction of the term 'net neutrality' is completely orthogonal.
- Cliff Gerrish
The basic FF Tornado server is already open source. It has demos with basic functionality, Google login authentication very simple blog, chat and facebook client. Unfortunately I don't think they've open sourced the actual FF server so it would be quite a bit of development work to get Tornado back to the same level of functionality as the current FF server. Hard to say if you could pull it off and get the existing FF user base to migrate in tact and then grow it again.
- Ed Millard
To be honest I don't really want tweets to be in search. It's bad enough that engines are filled with crappy blogs* and price comparison sites. I want my search to be authoritative. Seems lille this will creat a)noise b)tweet 'seo' and c) tweet seo 'experts'. *unless your a spammer this is unlikely to refer to you
- Phill Price
from iPhone
Phill: sorry, there are SOME Tweets that will help search. I'm seeing those come through all the time. http://twitter.com/favorit... has more than six thousand tweets -- all of which should be on search.
- Robert Scoble
Glen: "net neutrality" and "universal access", I'm sure you know, are the government's buzzwords they're using to ram their toe into the door. Next comes the rest of the foot, then the calf, and when they're finished they've opened the door wide so that THEY have access to all of the data as well. It's for the children, ya know.
- Craig Eddy
Rutger: my tweet showed up on Bing nearly instantly yesterday. So that's pretty real time to me. Bing and Google have access to the FULL firehose feed. Real time is here baby! Now, is it useful? That's another question.
- Robert Scoble
The cost of search will be proportional to demand, according to the theory. $D
- Donald C. Lindsay
Robert: how does bing compare in overall latency to friendfeed search?
- Mike Chelen
The criticism that Ralph Lauren doesn't want you to see! - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
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"Last month, Xeni blogged about the photoshop disaster that is this Ralph Lauren advertisement, in which a model's proportions appear to have been altered to give her an impossibly skinny body ("Dude, her head's bigger than her pelvis"). Naturally, Xeni reproduced the ad in question. This is classic fair use: a reproduction "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting," etc. However, Ralph Lauren's marketing arm and its law firm don't see it that way. According to them, this is an "infringing image," and they thoughtfully took the time to send a DMCA takedown notice to our awesome ISP, Canada's Priority Colo. One of the things that makes Priority Colo so awesome is that they don't automatically act on DMCA takedowns. Instead, they pass them on to us and we talk about whether they pass the giggle-test. This one doesn't. So, instead of responding to their legal threat by suppressing our criticism of their marketing images, we're gonna mock them. Hence this post."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Someone should tell Ralph Lauren that censorship sucks.
- Thomas Hawk
and to fire their design team :)
- Simon Wicks
I wonder how the models feel when they see a botch job as bad as that? They should be able to sue RL for making them look so bad. Of course, maybe she wants to look malnourished and alien-headed.
- Kenton
Thar's just a disgusting picture in so many ways.
- beersage
Censorship sucks, and so does their sexism.
- John (bird whisperer)
Yes, the picture itself is problematic -- setting up that sort of a body image as in any way positive in our culture is fraught with it's own ethical complications. It also sucks that Ralph Lauren would seek to squash legitimate criticism of their ads by using the DMCA. I hope they understand that trying to stomp out free speech usually is only like pouring gasoline on the original fire and it's message or criticism.
- Thomas Hawk
I have made this my facebook profile photo, and measured out the proportions of the head to the waist and shoulders and pelvis, please comment. http://www.facebook.com/photo... http://www.facebook.com/photo...
- James Michael Mike DuPont
This is as absurd as the girl in the image. She's so skinny it's gross.
- Tanath
FriendFeed update. Paul Buchheit wrote me and said he's been very sick the past few days. That might explain why he hasn't engaged the way we want. He also offered to do an interview with me to discuss the future of FriendFeed and what they are doing at Facebook soon. We're working that out, hopefully soon (but might not be until November sometime)
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I don't know if that's a good idea for you, Robert. You might be better off making a clean break from FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Thanks Robert, that's great news! Paul, hope you feel better...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Bruce: FriendFeed=Facebook. So, I'm interested in what he's doing and I'm a big fan of Facebook's. Twitter needs some competition. The Fail Whale is getting to me.
- Robert Scoble
Another reliable update.
- Ashish
I know it's a stretch but can we gather specific questions for Paul to answer?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
When other sites like twitter come out with new features, you want to be at the front of the excited crowd. FriendFeed will make you into that curmudgeon who's always saying, "So what? They did that two years ago at FriendFeed."
- Bruce Lewis
Cjay: I've been working on this interview since before Facebook bought FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
manielse: well, the interview isn't on 100% yet and now that I've talked about it in public who knows what will happen? But if it does happen of course we'll get you involved.
- Robert Scoble
Cjay: I might be a rusty wheel, but remember two things: 1. I put many many thousands of hours into FriendFeed before the sale, bringing my audience over here at great risk to my personal brand. Lots of "experts" like Mike Arrington told me I was wrong to do that. 2. I'm still here.
- Robert Scoble
OMGAWWWWW he still has "it"
- sofarsoShawn
I hope Paul gets to feeling better soon. He's a great guy.
- Phil Glockner
from iPhone
sofarso: I never lost it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Cjay: actually it's not. It just looks risky.
- Robert Scoble
To those giving Scoble crap for being on FF, aren't you tired of that? You all have been doing that for at least a year. Enough. For us on FF, we'd love to see an interview, thanks.
- Eric - seven eleven
Paul, get well soon
- Shane
Good luck for the interview, Robert and thanks for the update. Hope Paul gets better soon.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Thanks everyone. I'm actually not "very sick" though, just "kind of sick" -- it's mostly messing up my sleep.
- Paul Buchheit
from iPhone
be well!
- Laura Norvig
Chicken soup - but stay away from those soul books ;) Hope you're up to speed soon, Paul.
- Micah
Looking at the time-scale, doesn't that actually answer the question? You don;t wait THAT long to deliver good news or to debunk a false rumour that killings your platform (well, Zucks platform).
- Jim Connolly
Paul - sorry to hear that! (it's 2:30 am here, I can empathize with your sleep problem)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Eric, sorry if it sounded like I was giving him crap. That wasn't my intention. I think Scobleizer has a serious career decision to make: http://ourdoings.com/ourdoin...
- Bruce Lewis
Hope you feel better, Paul.
- Kol Tregaskes
That will be an interesting interview, thanks for posting this update.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Can't wait for the interview!! Thanks to you and Paul for keeping us updated!!
- Rosemary Sorg
+1 Patrik
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert, do you think Twitter is too unreliable or do you think the competition is healthy?
- John Cass
Feel better soon, Paul!
- Ruchira S. Datta
The walrus has eaten the oysters: http://bit.ly/nJrdl
- Michael Slattery
First, FriendFeed is _not_ going away. (in fact, we're working on switching it to new servers) Second, I know everyone wants to know what the team is working on, but we don't pre-announce things, so for now all I can say is that there's good stuff on the way. Re: http://friendfeed.com/jworthi...
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I know that doesn't answer everyone's questions, but I hope it helps.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, working on friendfeed.com stuff or facebook.com?
- Kol Tregaskes
I like the first sentence. The rest is just gravy.
- Derek Coward
I'm totally happy if we just reside on decent servers, and get occasional IT help... We'll keep the rest of the ship running :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Paul - is that why it's been slower lately vs.pre-fb ?
- Allen Stern
Paul please repeat it in re-phrased form: Friendfeed is NOT going to repeat destiny of Jaiku? Y/N
- A. T.
*processing statement...*
- Micah
Can't wait... **Fingers tapping desk impatiently**
- AJ Batac
But what does "going away" mean, Paul? And what does "team" mean? And when you say "pre-announce", are you talking about the Palm Pre?
- Ken Sheppardson
Allen, the slowness is due to growth (more users and more data), but I put in a few fixes yesterday that should speed things up a bit.
- Paul Buchheit
thanks paul
- Allen Stern
Paul, sometimes when I open up threads I get the Opps... error. Is that related? It has been happening more and more these last few days.
- Kol Tregaskes
Still better than twitter and facebook. Thanks for the update!
- Mike Nencetti
Paul, thanks for the incredible work with FriendFeed. Please, keep it alive! and most importantly keep it FriendFeed!
- Ciro Villa
as long as FF doesn't go dark or fall to pieces due to lack of maintenance, i think most ppl would be appeased.
- Hieronymous Boosh
Does this mean that the sky is not falling and we should stop running around screaming GODZILLA! and pointing in the direction of FB?
- Tony C (Unrated)
from fftogo
also, thank you for making such a great service in the first place!
- Hieronymous Boosh
Paul: Did you see http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009... & can you understand why it got so many people talking / blogging?
- Jim Connolly
I second that!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Always nice to hear Paul talking about Friendfeed.
- Ashish
Thanks Paul for the update.
- Roberto Bonini
Thanks for the update! Would like to know if there will be actual development done on FriendFeed in the future (other than bug fixes/minor updates) but I understand if you can't really talk about that too much.
- Brandon Titus
Paul: so still no answer from you as to if your 'good stuff' is being developed for FB or FF? The silence suggests it's FaceBook you're working on, or at least transferring FF into an 'add on' for Facebook?
- Jim Connolly
Kol, fb platform and openness, primarily.
- Paul Buchheit
David Recordon FTW
- Jesse Stay
i made a post here - http://www.centernetworks.com/friendf... - one interesting note - maybe FB keeps FF running nice and smooth to keep the early adopters happy as it's a great way to get new features out to them via this channel... just a thought.
- Allen Stern
Akiva, just add salt. You know which kind :)
- Micah
I'm anxiously waiting for FF->FB Platform integration (drools...)
- Jesse Stay
These are the best words I could have expected by Paul. There is obviously a cultural difference between the two platforms and audience and I'm assuming both the former FF team and the FB team recognize that and are sensitive to the community. Thank you Paul and I hope you are feeling better....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Allen, you're in good company on that thought - there were musings on that concept right after the buyout.
- Micah
When the leader speaks, everyone listens.... :-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I feel a few "I told you so's" coming though... :-)
- Jesse Stay
Thanks Paul. Glad you're working on maintaining/improving performance. I've definitely seen issues here. Looking forward towards your influence and changes over at the blue giant.
- Mark Krynsky
Paul - thank you for letting us know, and I do hope you feel better!
- Jennifer Dittrich
The big question though is will FriendFeed continue to add new features? There's a difference between that and it going away. (and hence my argument w/ Scoble the other day)
- Jesse Stay
Paul: Seriously weird that you're there reading this, and totally ignoring each relevant, yes no question. No one's asking you to pre announce anything - just genuinely concerned (and increasingly so) that they do NOT include developing for FF.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse +1
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: Paul answers that question - BOOM - rumour mill dies and we finally get something positive to say. Ya know what - we won;t get an answer though. He's reading this, he knows the answer, but he won't.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: For now, FF has more features than any other platform for this type of niche. There's some catching up to do before I'm worried about new features.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Paul: I'm right, right? There's something stopping you from saying that you are no longer adding new features to what 'we' know as Friendfeed?
- Jim Connolly
Paul: Amazing how quickly you guys have adopted the Facebook attitude to silence. Pity.
- Jim Connolly
Paul: blink twice if you will add new features to FF. I won't tell anyone, honest.
- Edward Zwart
FWIW he did just upgrade servers. My e-mail notifications are almost real-time. Sounds to me like they're still improving the service.
- Jesse Stay
Jim: Don't blame Paul on that, it's not fair. He's only allowed to say so much at this point but I'm very satisfied on what he said.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse: The questions not if they keep the servers running - we want to know if this is a dead platform.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: in Paul's defense Facebook's PR is more controlling than FriendFeed's was. I'm sure he's having to consider the effects his words will have on other people inside Facebook. But, I'm VERY HAPPY that Paul is here giving us hints as to what's coming. I wish it had happened six weeks ago so we wouldn't have lost so many people, but maybe that would happen anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Jim, there may be a few new things, but as I said, the team is mainly working on fb platform and openness, so it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff (except maybe one that I've been thinking about for a while...).
- Paul Buchheit
Did the Walrus think about Feed Splicing? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Paul: Finally - THAT'S what we were wondering.
- Jim Connolly
Paul: Pity. At least we now know not to expect any developments or improvements. Thanks for answering the question. Whilst it confirmed my fears, it's good to know what's happening.
- Jim Connolly
I have no problem with FB integration (notice my drool above). Hoping for good friend conversion tools to bring subscribers over as friends or fans on Facebook from FriendFeed. (Connect.registerUsers FTW!)
- Jesse Stay
Jim: I'd modify "any" to "many."
- Robert Scoble
As a result - Jim has left the platform.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: this is a change from last week, by the way. My sources were telling me that we weren't going to get any new features and now Paul is refuting that and saying we might get one new feature here.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still drooling - anyone have a towel?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I'll buy you a virtual one over on Ning.
- Robert Scoble
personally, i would be happy just to have FF not fall apart and die. given the post-acquisition situation, anything beyond that is gravy!
- Hieronymous Boosh
Robert, I heard Ning is dead - care to send me one on Facebook? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, think of it as 20% time. If there's a feature I want, I'll just add it :)
- Paul Buchheit
Thank you for the clarification, Paul, and hope you are feeling better.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Even if there no new features in Friendfeed, I am happy with Friendfeed just staying on.
- Ashish
Paul, if you wanted me to bake you some cookies, all you had to do was ask, GEEZ.
- Derrick
Twitter doesn't accept cupcakes any more (just check Foursquare when at their offices). How about FriendFeed? :-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I'm okay with better Facebook integration. There's a lot of power in that (hence my drooling).
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I'm really hoping it ends up the best of both worlds - that would be really cool
- Jesse Stay
im going back to efnet - i got a bus for 7pm - anyone want on? :-P
- Allen Stern
I think you could make the case that some sites and services can in fact be "done" at some point, and simply require resources to keep them up and running.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks, Paul.
- Josh Haley
Ken: That's a potential advantage of turnkey application-level hosting such as App Engine: the resources to keep them up and running are almost entirely outsourced. ~All costs are variable costs, monetization improves over time, variable costs decline over time, so services that are "done" can literally just coast.
- Daniel Dulitz
might be a full-time job times 2 or 3 for any fresh devs - safe to say Paul's got a bit of a head-start which changes that equation significantly! .... Also maybe almost as important is simply keeping spammers in check - that makes the difference between a ghost town vs the happy place here we want to keep coming back to enjoy ...
- Dan Freeman
Yes, this helps a lot. Thank you, Paul. We were beginning to fight amongst ourselves over these things.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Chris: the problem is that a shovel doesn't get more utility the more people that use it. FriendFeed does.
- Robert Scoble
I think the problem is that some people feel extra messianic some days (which is perfectly okay), and then refuse to see/believe/accept when others don't feel the same way AND point it out. The refusing part is not really okay, I guess.
- Michael Bravo
Thanks for these reassuring words Paul. Have been working hard to get more Flickr users over here after the recent rash of censorship there. Friendfeed's TOS and lack of censorship is a breath of fresh air compared to Flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
You can’t predict what the future of technology will bring; so trying is a fool’s game. You can only adapt to the new realities as best you can. Paul's word is that it is still worth the time to invest in FF the tool. The tool may stay in this form but that's still a better design for me than Twitter. If FF is a shovel, Twitter is a spoon feature-wise. Audience volume-wise, it is the reverse.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
"Feature creep is the devil." truer words!
- Hieronymous Boosh
I've been rough on you guys in some comments around, but I'm VERY encouraged to see that you guys see a future for FF. Thanks for shining some light, Paul.
- In Search of Gender
Clarification is appreciated.
- DGentry
Chris: Pownce had more "features" than Twitter did, yet it died. So did other aggregators like Jaiku. It's not "features" that matter in social software. Well, at least not completely. It's a combination of features with crowds that matter. If the crowds leave FriendFeed has a lot less utility to everyone than if they flow in. Look at this item here. Why is it interesting? Because there's people here talking about it.
- Robert Scoble
take your time PB Bear take your time
- Thomas Power
This is definitely more of the answer we were looking for. Thanks, Paul.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
yea - happy happy....
- Chris Jackson
I can't find any wave that is even remotely comparable with friendfeed's conversation, if you found one will you invite me? (muzzle at googlewave)
- ıɔ ǝɯɯǝ
Great news, I await the new functions eagerly
- Mo Kargas
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the best thing I've seen ALL day!! woo hoo!! Thanks Paul :) {{{ HUG }}}
- Susan Beebe
Just a few words of assurance go a long way, Paul. Thank you for finally giving us something more solid to stand on. It's been frustrating for a lot of us waiting for the other shoe to drop and this news makes it much easier to keep investing time in FriendFeed. Please don't be shy about reaffirming that it's not going away on a regular basis because it's always good to hear.
- Lindsay
I will say it for the least time! Friendfeed kicks ass :). The rest who is saying friendfeed is dying. please SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
- alfred westerveld
Good to read.
- Grant Bierman
@ThatDBD I think you're responding to the wrong thread...
- Lindsay
still curious, but understand
- Kim Landwehr
It's fascinating that so many people seem worried about new features. Until recently Twitter added almost no features at all and yet it continued to grow in popularity. FriendFeed's recent slump is all about perception, not tech.
- Eoghann Irving
Looks like it's official then: FriendFeed lives! On new servers, even! (At least for now...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Hoorah!
- Ron Bailey
Very glad to hear it!!
- Rosalinda Mojarro
word!
- Dylan Casey
This is great news! Thanks, Paul, for the update, and if you get a hankering for a feature, great! I'm fine with the tech being your personal sandbox in exchange for keeping the service alive. Robert, I hope this means we'll see more of you and your family - and hear from the ones who have mastered the art of rolling over. Johnny, thanks for having the courage to ask the hard questions (and Louis for helping you frame the issues.) wow - life feels good again!
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
from iPhone
This is brilliant news from Paul! Now can we put this FriendFeed is dying business to rest please? It's a self fullfilling prophecy because by saying FF is dying, folks begin leaving, causing a downward spiral which would then cause it to come true!
- technogran
Wan't it to stay? Then begin spreading the word! Get others to use it! At the moment its not mainstream so encourage ordinary users to use FF! The more popular it becomes the less likely it is to fold.
- technogran
Yes :) Paul . Thanks. we love ff :)
- sunipeyk
Questions? No just enjoy it.
- ★ Soner Gönül
technogran: sorry, today you see what's going on. Bing? Displays your Facebook and Twitter tweets. Google? Twitter. Where's FriendFeed in this equation? Now do you get why FriendFeed is destined to be a tiny niche player and why the real action is on Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
Good news :)
- Maryam Ardakani
from FreshFeed
Is not FF that is going somewhere else (?). Is its user base.
- Claudio Cicali
Good to know.
- orionstarr
from iPhone
Robert, if FF gives me what I'm looking for, why do I care where "the real action" is? If FF serves its niche well, what's the downside?
- In Search of Gender
Robert, do you mean that Google doesn't index Friendfeed posts? Friendfeed is the first site that comes up if you search for my name.
- Victor Ganata
Excellent point Victor - but FF only imports a small % of twitter's posts. Ergo Google is still not getting Twitter.
- Roberto Bonini
@Scobleizer - this item is not interesting because of the conversation. it's interesting because of who it's from, and what he said. The fact that there's a conversation around it and that conversation is easy to find and read is a bonus (a feature) that sets this service head and shoulders above others (IMHO). There's really not much interesting in the comments here, if you ask me. You could get rid of all the comments that aren't Paul's and the value of the entry doesn't diminish that much.
- Chris Heath
That isn't to say that conversations around items aren't ever useful or valuable (or interesting as robert says)... but in this case i would say it's who it's from and what he said.
- Chris Heath
Chris: you nailed, in a single paragraph, why Twitter is winning. You now can choose who shows up on your screen and under what context. Well, I can because I have list support. Everyone else will get that next month. Victor: Roberto is right. I barely see ANY of the good stuff I see on Twitter come over here. Well, it comes here because of my favorites feed, but that isn't in nearly as useful a form as it is over at http://www.twitter.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you keep saying that's the reason Twitter's winning - I can do that in Facebook and FriendFeed as well.
- Jesse Stay
Well, the problem is that Google doesn't seem to index tweets as well as it indexes Friendfeed posts. And Google has never been able go inside Facebook's walled garden. Hopefully that will change.
- Victor Ganata
(and I have been able to for the last year or so)
- Jesse Stay
Victor, that changed today - see ReadWriteWeb's post. Facebook is opening up public status messages to search engines now.
- Jesse Stay
Why is Twitter/Facebook/FriendFeed a zero sum game? I use both Twitter and FriendFeed a lot - they have different strengths - and they feed into each other. Facebook I use less, but that's a personal issue because I simply like it less. Why does there have to be a winner? And +1 Scott, if I'm in the niche market that FF is serving and I'm happy with it, why should I care if "the real action" is on Facebook? If that's the case, I'll take FF's "fake action," thank you very much.
- Jandy
Good point Jandy
- sunipeyk
Paul: Thank you for letting us know status as much as you are able. The fact that you took time to write anything says a lot. So thank you for that. And thank you for FriendFeed in general. It truly does rock. Have a great day.
- Morgan
Thank you.
- amygeek
@Gene, sorry, you'll have to wait for a FB invite like everyone else!
- Andrew C (✓)
FF team needs 20% time at FB to keep inventing the next.
- Christopher Galtenberg
This is great to hear, it would be bad that a major peice of my microblogging arogration just died off.
- denzuko
Bump for clarification and Happy Birthday Paul!
- Charlie Anzman
Anyone having problems with Twitter and Posterous not feeding into FriendFeed?
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Yeah, my Posterous isn't either. It just started happening. =(
- Shevonne
Twitter seems to be delayed by about two or three hours for me.
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
mine worked pretty immediately
- sofarsoShawn
@Bhowmik Yeah...now I see them
- Shevonne
→ Yes, this problem is a critical annoyance. If I refresh my Twitter through my homepage, I can see tweets; but must refresh every tweet I made or series of tweets made. I cannot get Posterous to work with Friendfeed; it appears to be a delay that never gets to this site. Also having issues with Digg, Tumblr, and Youtube; in that it takes from 1 to 4 hours for input to appear. Myself, a journalist for social media I just made another post in accordance with this subject for possible "insider" information.
- Hollywood Amanda
I do not use Posterous, but Twitter stuff shows up...slowly. Nothing that I post to Twitter that is supposed to go to Twitpic arrives though.
- JA Castillo
Twitter yes
- sofarsoShawn
Twitter. Which sucks because my Friendfeed appears on my blog and I like to select what shows up and what does not from my Twitter. It randomly shows up hours later.
- beersage
My tweets have not been feeding into twitter today . . .
- Chris Loft
didn't have any trouble with Postersous over the weekend. haven't posted since. my FriendFeed posts go to twitter with no problem. I don't post FFeed from twitter.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
I'm having problems feeding my tweets. Is that because they are losing blood to Twitter? They left us all alone.. that's a shame!
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Yes. I've noticed things are slow to come in here too. I thought it was more on Twitter's side, Twitter is under severe strain right now because lists have greatly increased engagement over there.
- Robert Scoble
Most of my problems seem to happen in the evenings. A number of services won't update. I started noticing this right after the buy out by FB. And it's been consistent ever since.
- Bluesun 2600
Takes a long time for Twitter stuff to show up for me. I don't use Posterous so I don't know. But Flickr takes much longer than Twitter for quite some time. I think Twitter is having brain farts today (I had fail whale a couple of times).
- Arlan K.
same problems with my FB stuff...
- Eric Gagne
Twitter hasn't streamed in for a while now.
- Andrew Trinh
Twitter has been a little slow.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Twitter isn't working at all for me. So far Posterous is okie.
- Pixie
I have to manually refresh for my tweets to come up. *sigh
- Shevonne
There was a lot of chatter about the future of FriendFeed this weekend. The short answer is that the team is working on a couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world. Transformation is not the end. Consider this the chrysalis stage -- if all goes well, a beautiful butterfly will emerge :)
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What is transforming... FriendFeed, or the idea of FriendFeed?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Thanks for the update, Paul!
- Anne Bouey
THANK YOU!
- tehKenny
Fabulous News :)
- Susan Beebe
Noticed the "leaked" Facebook UI screenshots and the groups blog post today, and both seem FriendFeed inspired: nice to see Facebook trying to bring the stuff we like about FriendFeed to a larger audience.
- Mark Trapp
To Robert Scoble: I told you so ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark - got link?
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Paul :)
- Ashish
Paul, FriendFeed rocks as Gmail does ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Devil is in the details: "couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" == Facebook projects with FriendFeed-like elements == no work on FriendFeed itself.
- EricaJoy
Thanks for the update, the more you communicate, the less we have to speculate.
- Peter Hoffmann
The fact that these improvements are coming to Facebook and not friendfeed will not sway those who like friendfeed but dislike Facebook.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Thank you Paul for bringing "FriendFeed goodness to the larger world" -- THAT sounds awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
integration with facebook?
- Rocco Galluzzo
I hope out of the chrysalis emerges an infested Kerrigan. That'd be awesome http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki...
- Ivan Kirigin
Thanks Mark, much appreciated... I'll check those out
- Susan Beebe
+1 Ivan :)
- Benjamin Golub
But we knew this was the deal the moment the full details of the purchase of friendfeed by Facebook became public.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, I don't give a crap about Facebook. I want to know about FriendFeed.
- Rochelle
sadly, no one with any power seems to care about FF anymore.
- Hieronymous Boosh
And there's your answer, Rochelle. friendwho? friendwhat now? Oh, you mean Facebook! (No I mean friendfeed) friendwho? (rinse, lather, repeat)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
there are some ui differences (and i tend to prefer friendfeed in those cases) but i have friended quite a few FF people in FB and the experience is remarkably similar in many ways.
- Jason Wehmhoener
yep
- Jason Wehmhoener
Thanks for the transparency on the Friendfeed "ghost town" matter Paul. Much appreciated.
- Alex Knight
Thanks Paul... bring the special sauce to Facebook: http://blogs.zdnet.com/weblife...
- Andrew
I like the "chrysalis stage" analogy - sounds cool.... goes an looks for FF goodness butterfly!
- Susan Beebe
Good to know that FriendFeed still has some fight left; hope that translates into a viable and sustainable platform/utility for the masses (though I quite enjoy the close-knit, uber-geek community that it's become).
- Christian
I don't like the chrysalis analogy. The butterfly emerges from the chrysalis and buggers off leaving the shell. Of course, it might then also get eaten by a bird. Tweet, tweet.
- Mark H
Mark LOL nice, ... haha
- Susan Beebe
Note that he didn't say that FriendFeed.com was going away, only that they're diverted to bringing it to a much larger audience
- Jesse Stay
The problem is Scoble (Robert) and MG both just sent half of FriendFeed away so most of those that would benefit from this announcement won't even see it.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, Paul's statement won't help friendfeed. This will just either give people more reason to go to Facebook or find another service entirely.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What Alex and Rochelle said. This sounds like a "we're bringing FF to Facebook" announcement, and I don't give a damn about Facebook. I want to know what's happening HERE. And Cristo, both, but more the interface. I care about the friends I've made here, and I'm connected with many of them now on Facebook as well, but I prefer to interact with them here, because I like it better.
- Jandy
Travis, he didn't say that - you read that, but he didn't say that. I'm willing to bet FriendFeed.com will not go away.
- Jesse Stay
Travis, there are better ways of getting the FF team to comment
- Jesse Stay
:( I quite liked the caterpillar.
- Nick Lothian
What I do see is more Facebook integrated into the FriendFeed environment - I think that's a good thing
- Jesse Stay
The critical difference between Facebook and FriendFeed is the social model. With Facebook as it is today, you need to be mutual friends to see each others content. There is a "fan page" model but it is oriented toward "publishing/celebrity" rather than information sharing. FriendFeed has an asymmetric model like Twitter, where you can easily discover someone's content without any "friend" gesture whatsoever, and you can follow without friending. This makes the converation more discoverable, and useful..
- Adina Levin
If the integration is bringing public/asymmetric to Facebook, then it will be very useful indeed. If the integration is to add FriendFeed-style service integration into the symmetric/private Facebook model, it will be much less useful - it's more of the same - I'll be able to more easily share updates from youtube or last.fm or delicious to my friend network, but be unable to discover new people and infomation.
- Adina Levin
@Jesse - I can't see any sign that they are working on FriendFeed at all. All the indications are that the FF team is now working on Facebook, and only Facebook. That's great for Facebook, and I'm sure they will do wonderful work there. But don't delude yourself that FriendFeed is going to get anything more than critical fixes, and maybe the occasional thing done in someone's spare time.
- Nick Lothian
Butterflies look totally different than caterpillars and they also fly away
- Melanie Reed
Crickets chirping... is this site alive?? :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
+100 Adina. The things I like best about FriendFeed (easy content/people discovery, FoaF, asymmetrical following and being followed) are completely opposite to Facebook's core model. That's why as much as people keep talking about Facebook adding FF-like features, I don't see the REAL FF core features making it over, because the mindset is different.
- Jandy
I don't see this announcement as anything new, or as reassuring. We knew from the time of the acquisition that there would be would be some movement of FF capabilities into FB. The real question is whether this means absorption of FF into FB or attracting the FB user base into FF. The comment about "bring[ing] FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" still leaves that question open.
- John (bird whisperer)
+1 everything Alex Scoble has said. Friendwhat? What's a feed? Who uses RSS anymore? We've got PubSubWTFOMGBBQ now!
- Mr. Gunn
Agree with Jandy on +100 Adina.
- Amy℠
Also, I agree with Jandy and Adina's comments.
- John (bird whisperer)
Nick, Paul just said they're working on other projects right now. That still doesn't mean FriendFeed is going away. I'm not deluding myself at all. I'm telling everyone else they're deluding themselves by assuming it's going away. All the FriendFeed team is still using FriendFeed, and Paul just tried to give us comfort not to worry. For some reason we all don't want to believe him. It's actually kind of amusing.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder what the powers that be mean by "FriendFeedy goodness"? Is it understood what WE like about it vs. FB?
- Amy℠
Paul - Wishing you all the best as you tend your new butterfly garden :) I'll be here to enjoy them!
- Susan Beebe
This is not the news that Friendfeed fans were looking for.
- Vezquex
The issue isn't belief that they are going to do something. The question is what they are going to do, and whether that will continue the core value of FriendFeed, which is not just information aggregation but discoverability.
- Adina Levin
I know more about the "Last Days" and heaven than I know about what's going to happen to FriendFeed as we have come to know it than was given in your rather cryptic answer, Paul. :) And while that may not be a fair comparison (God actually gave details and signs), there is something definitely not forthcoming about your response. A person usually withholds details that affect another...
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- Melanie Reed
Hopefully this helps to quiet all of the "friendfeed is dying" talk. Because this thread proves ff is alive and well.
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Jesse - I read it differently to you. To me, Paul is saying "We are taking what we were working towards on FriendFeed, and trying to bring that goodness to a bigger audience". No one is claiming they are going to shut down FF.
- Nick Lothian
@Jesse - Want to make a bet on the number of new features added to FF before the end of the year?
- Nick Lothian
Cristo, to deliver some straightforward talk is not about giving away company details. If you have a product that is original and stands on its own, you don't need to refer to it as a "butterfly". Many companies even promote something new and upcoming especially to their loyal user base. It gives a signal. A proper one. It tells your users and future users enough so that they can make an informed decision about what they want to do instead of keeping them on tenderhooks
- Melanie Reed
"the chrysalis stage in most butterflies is one in which there is little movement" (via wikipedia) So if you follow that metaphor then eventually FriendFeed will go through a metamorphosis -- that means it's not dead... really how hard can it be to get what he's saying?
- Chris Heath
Its pretty hard :) The burning question is if they are putting FF goodness in to the walled gardens that are Facebook or are they bringing FF openness to FB too. I think the people here want the open forums that are FF not the closed ones that are FB. If FB is going hybrid with both walled gardens and open forums that would be OK too. People on FF want open forums... like Twitter and FF... without the crude interface that is Twitter and without the uncertainty that is FF now.
- Ed Millard
Facebook is gonna have to rip off much of the privacy to maximize their product in the real-time web world. I am going to assume FF goodness is going to be applied to FB :) *crosses fingers*
- Susan Beebe
Just a thought... why does "longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" JUST mean facebook.com? What I get from this is that they are working on a range of things, maybe bringing the FriendFeed sauce to a range of sites, powered by the Facebook back end. Who knows what that means. A FriendFeed service powered by FacebookConnect? Also to......
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- Johnny
LMFAO. Johnny++
- Rahsheen?
FB needs to leave the privacy for the walled garden and the inner circle. Their current user base likes that. They just need a second feed that is an open forum and you can talk there without it bleeding in to your inner circle feed.
- Ed Millard
Yes, but blocking doesn't work so well since you can just use Chrome's Incognito mode to get around it.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Translation: if you haven't switche to Facebook yet, you better do it now so you can get a good vanity URL.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I don't know what all the fuss is about. But could we have the long answer too, please?
- Laura Norvig
Although I'm interested, FB != FF. I don't see how the two mix in a way that makes me feel otherwise. Mixing audiences is not a good thing for me (with a few exceptions) and I know others share the same thought.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Paul, will FF be here in 1 year, 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Thanks for the update Paul..
- Chris Myles
Cristo I am funking nobody, I would like Paul to quantify his post. Simple. Will FF be here in 1 year? Will FF be here in 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
IMO friendfeed shoud attract more general audience... Facebook and twitter are having more general users. Most of the FF users are tech bloggers or those who needs aggregation services... I dont know it's just my feeling or not . but this is my impression on FF. but it's great service.. the features are too good... but we will roam were we meet our friends... thats most of the people are into twitter and FB.
- Sarath
Ohhhh a perrrttty butterfly, I'm moist with anticipation.
- sofarsoShawn
Glad to hear it, Paul.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Cristo: i almost made the same observation an hour or two ago when i first read through this posting and its comments. I was skimming and kept seeing alex, alex, alex... and thinking to myself... where's Robert!?!
- Chris Heath
Great news. Thanks! friendfeed team. :D
- Franc, a rememberer
@Sarath - I have a lot more in common with the people I've met here on FriendFeed than FB or Twitter. Twitter is too hard to search, and FB (and Twitter to a good extent) is driven by the people you know in RL (and unfortunately I don't have nearly as much in common in RL with my family, co-workers and acquaintences as I do with people scattered all over the world who I have met on FF)....
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- Lindsay
I think that in his cryptic statement he means, and a lot of people here agree with me, that more Facebook's going to get more FriendFeedy. Which doesn't mean that FF still isn't dead or doomed. After all, he works for Facebook now. FriendFeed=open forum, Facebook=walled garden, totally opposite master metaphors; but I don't think Zuckerberg gets it, and FF belongs to Zuckerberg now. So this is really about FB; FF's still in limbo. Still, some FF people friended me at FB, and I put them in a special list.
- Dennis Jernberg
@FF-team keep on rocking :). BTW I also think it's really cool you guys open-sourced tornado.
- alfred westerveld
+1 what alfred said, and good to hear words like "longer-term" & "beautiful" coming straight from The Walrus - keep that vision strong. Hope all goes well for FF team doing some good re-inventing the Octopus Garden of FB - seems you've got your work cut out for you there! It would be so nice if any way to keep a "simple & pure" form of FriendFeed alive (maintained and developed - more open source?) for us to enjoy, but no worries .... you've simultaneously raised the bar and paved the way for the rest!
- Dan Freeman
Good luck with the development Paul! Hopefully Zuck has some positive insight.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I like butterflies.
- Harold Cabezas
Paul: If someone offered me a bag of money to do what you guys did, I would have done exactly the same (probably a lot faster too). However, it would be nice if you spent an hour answering some of the questions here. It might also give people like me a little more faith, in what used to be your primary project; Friendfeed. You made the best platform on the planet - why not use it to let us know what the heck's going on?
- Jim Connolly
I'm assuming that Facebook wants to keep their roadmap quiet. I respect that but leaving you community in the dark for a brand that the applications stand for community building is rather ironic.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SUPER!! I don't Blame ya 1 Darn bit fer Dumpin' FacePOOP Paul!! ;PPP Wait FacePOOP is the Maggot Stage!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
If I can still have all my friends that I have here on friendfeed and share things with them the exact same way, I don't care what "www" address I have to type in to get it. I just hope i don't have to give up any of FF's awesome features! Thanks for the update Paul!
- David Cook
The problem is I don't know whether to wrote an app on your API or not because i'm not sure whether it will all be dropped in the "transformation". Imagine speding late nights and weekends coding something up only for it to be dropped suddenly. Need a decent long term picture. Looking at Cliqset.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Good point Steven - and one of the reasons many of us are spending so little time developing our networks here.
- Jim Connolly
ffcode: Good luck with that ;-)
- Jim Connolly
So the changes are at Facebook not FriendFeed, Paul?
- Kol Tregaskes
And good luck to all of your team
- Özkan Altuner
from iPhone
yemezler
- MobilAdam
I do care about what happens next, but this is the best news of the day nonetheless ! thanks for giving us updates at last ! and I do hope FF will awaken again ! such a great tool, but letdown since the announcement of the buyback by FB
- laetSgo
will I see this post in my "best of week" email from FF?
- Kirill Bolgarov
If Facebook is going to get fixed, please remember that it needs fixing politically, not just technically. It needs to give people the option to open their data to Google - for instance. A walled garden where the walls are fixed in place sucks.
- Tim Tyler
@Paul, or perhaps an Alien will erupt forth from its stomach? (kidding, kidding!)
- j1m
bump!
- Jesse Stay
Why? edit: so... 18 months later i'm still wondering what exactly this post was all about
- Chris Heath
Think Progress » Husband joins Army so cancer-stricken wife can get health care. - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...
Andrew Terry, Comics Forge, Prosey BUTTONS! and 6 other people liked this
"Bill needed a job. He needed health benefits. [...] The Army would solve their health coverage problem. In years past he would have been too old, but in 2005 the age limit for enlistment was increased from 35 to 40, and a year later it was raised again to 42. The tradeoff would be his absence from home. In the end, although he risked leaving Michelle to fight cancer on her own, Bill chose the Army. He signed on for a job as a signal support systems specialist, a soldier who works with communications equipment. “Seventy percent of the reason is for the insurance,” said Bill’s mother, Marguerite Hemiller. “He told me, ‘I’ve always wanted to do something for my country and I have to help Michelle.’”"
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Jesus H.
- Ayşe E.
Yeah.
- Steven Perez
True that a person should not have to join the military in order to guarantee health benefits for a spouse - but it is also a testament to what the military has - which is "socialized, universal health coverage" which is not considered "insurance" (though it is managed like one). Rather, it is an *entitlement*...
- Prosey BUTTONS!
+1 Rene
- Andrew Terry
Pictures of a rescued Owl, not at all happy about being put in a cardboard box.
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Alex Lomas, склад эукариотов, Wulffy and 58 other people liked this
what a hoot
- Mike Nencetti
++ Mike N
- Bette Cooper
"'Oh ho, let's wait till he's asleep and put him in a cardboard box.' Har har, Hilarious. I f'ing hate you guys."
- Chieze Okoye
Nicholas, agreed. It's kinda crazy. With the iris so vivid, I can't help but look at the pupils. Dilated. Contracted. Dilated. Awesome.
- Chieze Okoye
what a beautiful creature!
- Russian Space Lizard
Is 'not happy' the politically correct term for effing pissed off?
- Shannon - GlassMistress
the dilated ones are the most frightening.
- edythe
I think he's more pissed he's in a Nissan.
- beersage
OMG HE'S STARING RIGHT AT ME. Thus reaffirming my random fear of owls.
- Lola Bean (Penguin)
That's pretty funny.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Gozleri cok fena..
- Tugce Cengiz
from iPhone
süperrrr be gözlere baakarmısın
- Ciyhun
No one's said ORLY!??!?!? yet? Cute widdle birdie.
- rowlikeagirl
:))
- Tugce Cengiz
coolest :)
- Haki ♠
Says : Hey, whom do you gawkin' at ya jerk!
- Acharad Sami
Good job with the rescue. You just gained a few Karma points!
- Philippe
Oh, we finally found a GREAT use for Google Wave! Holy shitake! RT: @Orli: Awesome video!! http://www.youtube.com/watch... #googlewave
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imabonehead, Chris Lasher, Todd Nilson and 40 other people liked this
Hehe!
- Kol Tregaskes
pure genius!
- Loc
Is this wave pulp fiction mockup real? Now that I have a wave account, can I see it in Wave?
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Two big patches for 2.9 just went in. [… - http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/2009...
testbeta, Javier Aroche, beersage and Otto liked this
Interested to see Viper's blog on oEmbed. I like to size my videos for a certain width and am not sure how I'd get that with that single url embed. Is this .com or .org?
- beersage
It's .org. And it adds fields to specify max width/heights in the Media options.
- Otto
You can specify a width in the options, or it'll use your theme's width. You can also do a manual generic embed and manually specify height width. I'm sure his post will cover all this.
- Mark Jaquith
from email
This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch - http://gizmodo.com/5374890...
Wulffy, David Berrebi, Ерөнхий захирал and 115 other people liked this
"PhotoSketch is an internet-based program that can take the rough, labeled sketch on the left and automagically turn it into the naff montage on the right."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Wow, that is awesome. The authors list cracked me up: "Tao Chen, Ming-Ming Cheng, Ping Tan, Ariel Shamir, and Shi-Min Hu". One of these things is not like the others.
- Jim Norris
What is the definition of naff here? Here in the UK it effectively means stupid/silly/rubbish.
- travispuk
Yes, I can see it from the pixels.. :)
- Jemm
Wow, co-developed at NUS! although they've managed to mis-spell Singapore
- arunthampi
That's mind-bogglingly cool...
- Andrew Terry
Unb-freaking-livable!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
their site is down already...
- Maхx Tee
pretty neat but when i downloaded some higher resolution examples in their pdf, they didnt look quite as good
- bob
That seems so unreal! OnLive looks more real then this! Its blowing my mind
- Devin
Was just reading about this in a spanish photography blog. Amazing program.
- Juan Pablo González
Similar to some cmu research http://graphics.cs.cmu.edu/project...
- Ryan Moulton
Does this even work? I think it might be a farce.
- Harsh SIngh
Cheater got OWNED - http://meme.yahoo.com/wrzl...
David, Ronald S, Murat Küçükosman and 131 other people liked this
bizim köy mü lan yoksa burası :) yararlar adamın kafasını çot diye işte böyle...
- ems
oohaaaa.!!
- şafak başkılıç
yarışta şike yapacaksan önce dengede dur dimi kaçma fırsatın olsun :)
- Murat Kaya (mrtky)
haketmiş
- pessimist
Fanatizm sadece futbolda yok demek ki!
- Nihat Solmaz
yok ems ora türk köyü değil bizimkiler aşağı atmakla bırakmaz böyle hakedenleri :))
- Murat Kaya (mrtky)
İlk izlediğimde ya aşağıda su yoksa diye içimden geçirdim, nasıl bir sinirmiş anlam veremedim :))) ama çok da güldüm :)))
- Cagatay Karakoc
"seni adi adam, senin ben, al ulan ulan sana gel nen gel.. hıh yarışma sen ohh" attıktan sonra "gel ya mahmut hiç şevk kalmadı gidip birer bira içelim" demiştir:)) kol kola gidişlerini görürüz son karedede:P
- İrem[taşımasu]
yalnız kahve montlu adam soteye yatmış orda, saldırı planlı bence.
- Parfe
yalnız dikkat edersek yayınlanan kanal RTL.. aksiyon normal ;) her şekil
- ems
@mrtky, peşinden atlayıp bide suda sopalarlar bi temiz :)
- Fil
bisikletli sanki ilk darbede aşağıya atlayacakmış ama yeterli itmeyi alamaış o yüzden beklemiş gibi. direk kurmaca bile olabilir yani :))
- yasin
OMG!
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
süper :D
- erd
bisikletli kurtulmak için aşağıya atlamaya çalışıyor ama ayağı kendi bisikletine takılıyor dikkat ederseniz bizim adamımızda madem aşağıya atlamak istiyosun ben atarım seni diyerek fırlatıyor :)
- Göksel Şirin
hah ben de bundan korkuyordum, yahoo meme ile birlikte 10 senelik videolar yeniden canlanacak.
- Samim Maşat
Haha süper :))
- Ömer Ekinci
seni amna godumun, diye atı veriyor pisikletçiyi.. yauu...
- ems
Instant KARMA!
- AJ Batac
wow!
- Bren
Heheheh
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
oha
- Sinan İŞLER
hala güldürüyor
- Sinan İŞLER
چه پاکاره :)) -در راستای این که اینا عجق وجق می نویسن ما نمی تونیم بخونیم !!!
- bersam
Arkadan gelen, iteni tartaklamaya başlayınca "atsaydın bari" dedim içimden. Demez olaydım :D
- Oguzcana
ama haketti. :D
- kirmizimercan
Bisikletci sanki gonullu atlamak icin...
- Elestirel Gunluk
Nedense bu video bana kurgu gibi geliyor. Cheater'ın duvarın üst kısmına doğru meyletmesi ve aşağı atılmak için pek bir dirençsiz olduğunu gözlüyorum.
- Cem ARGUN
Instant Facilitated Karma. I like. (In this one specific example, not as an overarching philosophy of vigilantism.)
- SAM
Meanwhile, nobody is helping the rider who got shoved and is lying there while bikes drive around him.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
actually, the guy who saved the pushed-over rider's bike looks like he's gonna help him after the coast is clear.
- Hieronymous Boosh
amanııın,dünya şiddet doldu iyice...
- Delfina
adamın inanılmaz bir adalet anlayışı varmış
- Yiğit Arda Türkoğlu
çocuğun babası mıymış o?
- Durukan Duru
Holy cow. Can you imagine your thought if you are one of the trailing bikers?
- Louis Gray
hahahah :D kesin türk ya :))
- Kemal ONUR
hobaaa!
- BartuG
That's terrible...but I can't stop watching.
- Tammy Marshall
Harbiden, belki kurmaca olabilir. Yorumlardan birinde okuyunca bi' anda dank etti.
- Bora DAN
(Image) - http://amsterdam.soup.io/post...
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Gtp19, Lo, Michael Fidler and 48 other people liked this
I can't stop laughing. Stupid allergy trigger.
- Anika
OMFG!
- Berge Gazen
That is the best animated GIF ever
- Berge Gazen
the longer is goes. the harder I laugh.
- Nathalie
Brilliant!
- Kol Tregaskes
That is hilsarious!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
c'mon kitteh! you can do it!!!
- AJ Batac
Sad to say, this pretty much sums up my life!
- Louis Trapani
I kinda want someone to scare the living sh*t outtathat cat and see it REALLY take off! (I'm so mean)
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from iPhone
Fwd: Fwd: Thief - http://meme.yahoo.com/sonergo... (via http://friendfeed.com/funny-p...) (via http://friendfeed.com/koltreg...) da KOL :p
rowlikeagirl, beersage, Chris Charabaruk and 4 other people liked this
NYTimes - Custom Times Feeds - http://prototype.nytimes.com/customF...
beersage liked this
prototype from Tom Jackson allows you to create custom RSS feeds from NYT content
- Michael Young
Furthest Point From McDonald's | Dagoosh! - http://blog.dagoosh.com/post...
Jason A. Samfield, Tanath, paniaguai and 62 other people liked this
"the furthest point you can get away from a McDonald's in the contiguous US is in South Dakota, where you can be 107 miles away from the wonderment that is the McGriddle."
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
Mmmmm, McGriddle...
- Brian Chang
This is pathetic. I have three within 5 miles of my house.
- Will Sloan
I think I have 2 within 5 miles. One is within walking distance and the other is the next city over. I'm sure there are others I've managed to ignore, since I don't eat there.
- Anika
I think McDonald's on Manhattan island are like Starbucks there - you can see the next one from the front entrance of the one you're at.
- Brian Chang
I remember once reading that McD's objective was that no American be more than 10 minutes away from an outlet.
- Piaw Na
just thinking of McD's makes me want to puke... (sorry about the implied image there)
- Harold
Alright. Now do this with Starbucks.
- Louis Gray
Just a sec ... ok ... got sunglass on now ... proceed with Starbucks version ...
- Tom Horn
That is so cool.
- Brian Johns
According to aggdata.com, there's 12,275 McD's, but only 10,995 Starbucks. The clear winner in number of shops is Subway sandwiches, with a whopping 22,944 locations. If you consider all types of businesses instead of just foodservice, FedEx wins with 52,065 locations.
- Otto
How are there that many Subways, yet we just got one within 3 miles of me earlier this year.
- Anika
That's only in the USA, mind you, although Subway will soon pass McD's at most locations worldwide: http://www.yumsugar.com/5162960
- Otto
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