This got something to do with Twit Leo?
- Dieoxide
You've got to be kidding, why would he do that? The next four years would be a constant battle of who is in charge. You would just want her to be his VP since it was close. She lost, its over. :-)
- David Tolsma
Guess you're right - it's Biden. In retrospect a pretty good choice.
- Leo Laporte
I like the whole omniscient unmiked mom conceit.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I enjoyed it a lot, I'm sure you can find a way to incorporate everything.
- Mike Lewis
She's putting on the pressure to do a podcast. Ay yi yi.
- Leo Laporte
Are you the line extension or is she? She was charming.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Looked more like "Lunch with Leo". A new feature on TWIT
- Dave Rutter
She was wonderful, I enjoyed listening to her thinking. A breath of fresh air! :D
- Shawna Bergen
@leolaporte - Your mom was great. Really enjoyed her being there in studio and speaking up. I do think she should have her own podcast... dump her brain so that we can all hear it. :-)
- C.B.
You and your Mom would be a great podcast and it would draw more attention to the TWiT network from a different demographic as well, which will lend itself nicely to raising your viewership, donations and whatnot. Besides, it'd be a great way for you to be able to share her knowledge with your grandchildren when your kids are older and she's not able to do so herself.
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
We love your job too, and how well you do it. :)
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
i love your job except when i am trying to get something done, because i can't tune you out.
- robert steburg
I love your job too and if I had it I might be able to afford all of the "toys" you turn me on to. Keep at it!
- Mike
@Robert: I think there might be a direct correlation between how much Leo loves his job and my inability to do mine when he is on. :) PS I can't stop whistling the Skype Dial Tone now!
- Johnny Worthington
We love that you love your job. For some of us in our jobs, however, the opposite of love applies. :-(
- Dave "Freedom 35"
Do what you love, love what you do. It is a fundemental truth that escapes most of us.
- Rob Fuller
from twhirl
love that you love your job so should we all
- Danny Pratt
And I love the output. I look forward to Macbreak Weekly and TWiT.
- Jonathon
It's a great job. Congrats on 24 hours of iphone.
- Ryan
Many people would say they love the job you do! :)
- Chris Luckhardt
How could you not love your job! Actually you could not love it, but you wouldn't do it as well if you didn't love it.
- Jenz
Great to read someone loves there job! I love the positive vibe. I've just subscribed, I don't know what your job is... pardon my ignorance :)
- Adrian Nadeau
I totally did that to a guy I went to high school with... he emailed me, I somehow managed to lose it in my inbox, and responded over a year later. Shockingly, he failed to respond. Maybe he's waiting 'til next fall.
- Roger Benningfield
It's really annoying when an old friend or colleague emails you out of the blue, you spend your time to make a decent response, and then they never reply.
- Hao Chen
Yeah, I'm the kind of person that really needs sleep as well. If I don't get at least 4 hours a night, I'm completely useless. And I'm 16!
- Dillon K. Hoops
You know you love it, you're never too old as long as you still love it. And I might actually watch the whole 24hrs just for the heck of it.
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
You are too old for this! But you are going to have fun. I couldn't do it that's for sure. Best of luck, I'll be watching!
- Mike Lewis
It is a sad revelation when you realize you are starting to get too old for some things. Then it begins to hit you that it will only get worse. – Our Daily Affirmation – Today is the best day of the rest of your life.
- David Z
Must say I like that the focus starts in this part of the world again (Australia/NZ).
- James Fridley
Coffee and sugar are your friends. Get through it and take a few days off afterward :)
- Brett Kelly
LOL @ Q: "What is Bill Gates' greatest achievement?" Answer: "None"
- Mona Nomura
I'm glad to got around to agreeing, unanimously, that Bill's not evil; that gave most of the show comments/arguments some credibility.
- mark dekruyter
If there never was a gates and MS, IBM would have mismanaged the PC and dropped it, there would have been no Apple left for Jobs to rescue, and we'd all be using Commodore 256's.
- Al Trenda
Great episode, I'm loving all the stories from all the old timers :)
- James P.
from twhirl
looking forward to listening to this on my next swim.
- Thomas Hawk
@leolaporte please thank JohnC for showing . Made my day, love tech history and cranky old geeks..Bestest twit yet.
- Carol Garrett
Great episode, except John ate the entire time. I felt very hungry by the time the episode was finished.
- ComicList
I loved last night's episode. Great as always
- Grant
I'll take Dvorak over Calacanis any day. I had the reverse Calacanis experience -- thought he was interesting the first 20 minutes I heard him on the Gang and it went downhill from there.
- H Durer
A good show. But if you're going to devote a segment to energy technologies then perhaps you should invite someone on who really knows what they're talking about.
- Rob Safuto
gave up on twit and gg years ago due to time-to-value ratio - but if you're talking energy rob's the man and I'd listen to him (only reason I commented - otherwise would have hide)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Thx Mike. I find TWiT to be generally entertaining, but sometimes they veer off into rocky territory.
- Rob Safuto
Leo should do picks on Twit like he does not MacBreak Weekly. I love both shows but this would make Twit even better!
- Sweyn Venderbush
from twhirl
Calacanis just likes the sound of his own voice.
- Patrick Sweeney
I've noticed Leo tends to talk over the people he is co-hosting shows with. Other than that, I tend to enjoy the TWiT programs.
- ComicList
Never quite the same without Mr D'. Great nonetheless. Enjoying "No Agenda" hugely, though very different than Twit.
- Ian
awesome news, now how about posting TWiT a few minutes early tonight in celebration?
- Jordan
We don't hold on to TWiT - Dane posts it the minute it's ready. (Which should be soon.)
- Leo Laporte
Is it cool just to buy a 32MB iTouch, most of the coolness, none of the AT&T?
- Steven Van Tilburg
from twhirl
Leo, can we get an audio stream feed of the daily TwitLive for us bandwidth challenged. I'm using EV-DO and it still doesn't quite keep up with your high bps. What speed are you sending out?
- Keith Rowland
I figured it'd be cool to buy a used, deactivated iPhone with most of the coolness and none of the AT&T, and it would still have the potential to be a phone again.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I wonder if Super Monkey Ball would fit on a 32 MB iPod Touch:)
- Grant
I have to agree with Keith, Leo. Is there going to be an audio stream or podcast of some of the twitlive activities for the new iPhone debut? Being on dial-up it's hard for me to watch the video streaming.
- Molly, "sorry"
Waiting to see magic unroll on the iPhone 3G marathon coverage.. Leo, who is joining you on the 24 live?
- Du Senyao Peter
Leo should do it telethon style... Have really cheesey variety acts, I'm thinking a singing dog and a bird that runs a obsticle course. Then every hour you could cut to a scene of Dane and Colleen at a bank of telephones and a counter of some sort. "Hi and welcome back to the iPhone-a-thon, lets go to Dane in the tally room... how we going Dane?"
- Johnny Worthington
Dear Internets, Please let me join new social networks by just clicking a button that says join, and automagically add all of my other friends from other services. Where's my goddamned intelligent agents already??? Sheesh!
Yeah, but I want automagic data portability. I want it to go on in the background. I don't even want to know it's there. I just want to click a button to sign up for a service and be done with it. Or better yet, have my IA sign up for the services it figures I'd be interested in, and then just show me the best content from said services.
- Chrimmus Tad
Again directeur - I support the movement, I'm just bored by it. Just make it work. ;) The internets is for dumping awesome into the truck of utility.
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, I myself already using some of its techs in my products :) If you're a dev do so too, if not pass the message :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
One thing I was wondering along this same vein, are there ajax widgets or something that you could put on your blog/site and allow people to subscribe/follow/digg/stumble/whatever you in one click? Must I visit the actual site every time?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'd LOVE That Rahsheen! That'd be an excellent intermediate step. I think too many sites are still too worried about attention focusing. They WANT you to visit their site to stroke their ego, ads, etc
- Chrimmus Tad
I don't see why something like this doesn't exist for all social sites. You are adding the person so that you can interact with them at a later time on that service, so they shouldn't care if you hit the site to add them as a "friend." The "+friend" buttons on Digg work exactly how I want, I would just rather them be on MY site and work for every social network.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I was just twitter-moaning the same thing when I saw this in FF, some of you want leaps and bounds, I'd be happy if I could just join a new network and have all my accounts/contacts automagically connected
- Scott Bannon
from twhirl
actually, it seemed like swurl did that automatically...
- edythe
Ya, we do, check us out http://www.swurl.com/ We try to do as much magic as we can for you, computers are suppose to be smart aren't they?
- Ryan Sit
i was just about to say, I dig that swurl and feedly just kind of did that. I haven't gotten on board with feedly yet but I like the concept. Find me. Don't make me find myself.
- Jason Toney
it is my hope to built it... and then "they" will come :)
- Larry
from twhirl
I want a FireFox plugin that auto logs me in to all the websites I use. I think that would do a lot of good. It seems like this would be possible but no one has written one!
- Stefan Hayden
Brian, one of the reasons I don't use more web services is exactly because I'm sick of signing up for them and manually re-adding all my friends. If sites want us to use them they can either better make it brain dead simple or offer a service so compelling that we're willing to do the hard stuff. For many competitors who don't offer something that much different, an auto-subscription thing that I'm talking about would allow them to attract many more users.
- Chrimmus Tad
would love to be able to import all my flickr contacts, have them match up with FF accounts where possible and create imaginary friends for the rest which would be replaced by their actual accounts as they joined over time.
- Thomas Hawk
Right Thomas - and you ought to be able to do that just by clicking a single button that says "Import my contacts." Or at the very least have a single button and a drop down - Import -> Flickr
- Chrimmus Tad
I really like swurl, haven't messed with feedly yet, but even with swurl I had to manually input all of my account names/URL's/etc. to bring everything together. It wasn't hard, but it wasn't automagic either. Brian mentioned OpenID as too passive, I disagree with that and think user data could be expanded to contain the social network connections you have, then when you join a new...
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- Scott Bannon
from twhirl
I was really impressed with how well swurl worked.
- Jason Wehmhoener
concur on swurl doing that automatically via each service - doubt i'll live in it like tend to in ff but it is a cool environment
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'm probably the only one who uses rather different sets of “friends” on each network.
- Amit Patel
Isn't this what gnip is supposed to do? Also, about swurl -- I would say it's been working a LOT of magic, it added a TON of friends of mine on different services. Ryan - Could you consider some bulk-editing tools for the friends tab? Like "mute all people not on swurl", for example?
- Phil G
Agreed that swurl is fantastic behind the scenes once you enter in your account names/url's for each service... what I'd like to see though is a hubbed identity source so that when you join a new service you don't have to enter your FF username, your Twitter username, your FB feed url and etc. Just let me click "join" and find me--and my connections--everywhere.
- Scott Bannon
from twhirl
Also, if it gets too magical, you get a service like spokeo. It's kinda scary.
- Phil G
But the point of new social networks is to shed all your stupid non-friends!
- ⓞnor
I still want people to be able to add me without leaving my website. Isn't that what AJAX is for, after all?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
How about being able to sign up for disparate services/sites here on FF and automatically have all subscriptions updated in said service and automatically have said service's content spewed out here in FF? I want FF to be my primary hub for all things internets.
- Chrimmus Tad
Brian, there's no "might" about it, if someone can figure out a *good* solution to this problem, they will be sitting on a gold mine.
- Brandon Wood
Did anyone already mention Facebook Connect?
- Amir Gharaat
why don't you just use summize? i don't even use the replies tab anymore.
- Veronica
Spent the weekend getting used to FriendFeed - thanks for the tip Leo - it rocks! Figured it all out just by clicking around. Friendfeed me of "Shozu" the way they tie into all the other online services. Really amazing.
- Harry Myhre
Friendfeed makes it much easier to see EVERYTHING not just status updates
- Grant
from twhirl
You're right, Beronica, shoulda thought of Summize. But I still have too many @s to reply to. Even 10 replies would choke Twttr.
- Leo Laporte
so re: your switch to friendfeed, how will you manage your status updates when you are mobile? by logging in to the friendfeed site on your mobile browser?
- isky
@isky doesn't have to. just twitter the mobile update, it'll show up on ff and ppl can comment there.
- xero
its gonna go back down again just you wait
- sadiq kassamali
time to ditch all replying at Twitter and do it at FF
- Michael McGimpsey
Bah can't believe that such a major part of twitter's functionality was down for so long. FF wins again.
- John Samuelson
I only had one new response there to greet me when I clicked Replies!
- Joe Dawson
Someone should be keeping a track on the amount of backlash twitter is getting because of its lack of scalability
- Jassim
only hundreds? Am surprised-- seeing how long replies were down. I'd have thought @leolaporte would have even more. This is actually v. interesting information for me
- john conroy
It was more replies than the paginator would let me read, so I don't really know how many. According to Summize 281 @replies in the past 48 hours.
- Leo Laporte
I am liking this FriendFeed concept. Should have looked at it earlier. It's like gossip central.
- Andrew L
it'll be really interesting to see when/if ff goes down when they start getting serious traffic. i wonder what their numbers are in relation to twitter
- h1ro
Leo, I took the plunge and jumped over to Friendfeed. I'm sure it will take a bit getting use to. But I can already tell it's much better for having an actual "conversation" with someone. Take Care! Looking forward to being a part of your iPhone Coverage on 7.11 -- Ryan_Ly
- Ryan Lynch
Still an odd move by MS, imo. As a business user myself, there are still too many manageability issues with Vista. Also, XP is a much better choice for 2-3 year old hardware. Managing an OS roll out is hard enough to cost-justify, but tying it to a holistic hardware replacement is darned near impossible.
- John Denver
I've been thinking about friendship all week. I've decided that I wouldn't let someone who incessantly attacked another of my friends into my living room. So, why would I do that here on FriendFeed?
Jay: it's a lot easier to tear down than to build up. Plus, by fighting with people you aggregate attention (everyone in High School pays attention to a fight, but rarely pays attention to the smart kid building a science project).
- Robert Scoble
cool rule and analogy... Is that an analogy? I agree with you. No different than phishing for followers is attacking people for the sake of attention and then hoping attention = followers. If everyone was nice... THen everyone else would be nice!! HUH?
- Cody Heitschmidt
The only problem with this argument is you can't exactly mimic your real life behavior with your virtual ones.
- Muthu Ramadoss
bravos, robert. there is never an excuse for bad manners
- Dave Martin
Muthu - Not true in this case you sure as hell can defend and protect those your care about in anysituation
- Cody Heitschmidt
Attacks are a cheap way of scoring points and often say more about the attacker then the victim. Like Jay says, it brings attention, but if done simply for that purpose, it can be a difficult ledge to step back from.
- Ross Maguire
Depends on the context, I guess. Reasonable people can disagree and have opposing points of view, but repeated ad hominem attacks are simply unacceptable, no?
- Andrew Feinberg
I think everyone needs to go outside and breathe some actual air. Maybe see that thing called sunshine all the cool kids are talking about.
- Cyndy
Something we all should do. If there were consequences to being mean rather than rewards more people might try being nice.
- Summer
Andrew: a disagreement is one thing. I'm talking about something else. Agree. Cyndy: I live in Half Moon Bay. It's overcast right now. And, anyway, I saw enough of the sun this week in Washington DC to last me a month! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I think part of the problem is the term "friend". Just because you subscribe to someone's feed doesn't mean you have to like or even respect that person.
- Mike Doeff
Mike: I'm talking about real life friends in this post. You know, those kinds of people you've had dinner with and done stuff with and who've been over your house, and all that? But, yes, I'd apply this same test to the people I'm following here on FriendFeed. If I saw someone attacking one of my online friends over and over I'd block them too. It's behavior I don't need in my life.
- Robert Scoble
I agree. Who needs the negativity? There's enough of that in the world. Having a respectful difference of opinion is one thing; but a situation where one person constantly attacks other people is not helpful for anyone. It's pointless in person or online.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I agree - online attacking or bickering or arguments are pointless anyways most of the time - having said that I think I've only ever blocked one person on twitter and that was 'cos they were spamming adverts for some sort of crap
- Joe Breen
Civility is important in all arenas, but we must remember that there is a difference between online interactions and real life. Humor, etiquette, and context are all things that are radically different online, and as such, do not have the gravity of face-to-face rudeness or niceness. Besides, Twitter and FF are tools, as are many of the people I follow on them ;) See? That joke might not fly IRL. Oh wait... It didn't here either.
- Juan Aguilar
Yes, but you can still hear about attackers from others, blocking only works half well.
- Jeremiah Owyang
So right. Even if you are having a disagreement, there's basic respect. Either you are building the relationship or you are destroying it. Be honest about that choice, and ask yourself if that's really the kind of person you want to be. If you make the choice to be a jerk, don't go labeling yourself a hero.
- Ro (Lilyhill)
Jeremiah: that would work just like it does in my living room. My friends often tell me about people who hate me, attack me, or lie about me to Valleywag. That doesn't mean that I need to let those people into my living room (or get unblocked here on FriendFeed).
- Robert Scoble
then again on the flipside it's interesting for us onlookers if/when arrington & scoble argue/attack/bicker. :)
- Joe Breen
The lack of truly personal interaction has brought about a lack of civility and too many pointless arguments.
- David Z
@David Z: Very astute observation IMO. Amazing how many 'fierce and fiery' folks via email or IM suddenly become very cordial when you get them on the phone, much less have a face to face.
- AJ Kohn
I used to think like this when I had a BBS in 1990s. The BBS actually was in my living room so I had no worries about telling people the rules. I learnt then that some people who are reasonable in the "real world" are nutjobs online..
- Stuart Woodward
You are an inspiration to many of us Scoble.
- Satya
Fair enough, though for me, FriendFeed is *not* my living room.
- Brent Newhall
I agree - there is no reason why people should treat people online differently than they would IRL. Although on the internet it is difficult to behave the same way .. as you may meet people online you would have never met IRL, talk to people would have been too self conscience to talk to, etc. so it gives weak people a place to get all that real life anger out on people they will never meet. which is pretty messed up, but as a former shy girl .. i went through that when I 1st went online a million yrs ago.
- Jenz
It depends on your definition of attack. If by attack you mean disagree, even passionately, then I disagree.
- Michael Tefft
I've been pondering this myself. But then, I'm zealously guarded about whom I let into my house... I don't necessarily consider FriendFeed on the same level. But I'm very confused about what seem to be 'mixed standards' from folks of late. Like why one sort of attack is deemed "funny" or "keeping it real" and another is just deemed "trollish" when they seem the same to me. It's a very grey area for me.
- Lucretia Pruitt