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The Google OS Becomes Reality: Google Announced the Google Chrome OS http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Yes this is exciting for us, the digerati. Yes I'll be installing ChromeOS on one of my machines (or a stable version of Moblin, whichever comes first) Yes it's be fast, slick and run web apps like a charm No this isn't the end of Microsoft's world - they're a big company with smart people and there's still millions of bods using x86 machines with XP and ie6 - sad but true... More here https://www.cloudave.com/link...
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: The Google OS Becomes Reality: Google Announces the Google Chrome OS - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Yes this is exciting for us, the digerati. Yes I'll be installing ChromeOS on one of my machines (or a stable version of Moblin, whichever comes first) Yes it's be fast, slick and run web apps like a charm No this isn't the end of Microsoft's world - they're a big company with smart people and there's still millions of bods using x86 machines with XP and ie6 - sad but true... More here https://www.cloudave.com/link...
- Ben Kepes
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If @dahowlett wants to argue my (or his) credibility it will have to be here on friendfeed so we can do it in real time without pissing off our readers.
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He says he's credible because he has a sponsor who pays him. Hey, I do too. http://www.building43.com is paid for by Rackspace.
- Robert Scoble
So what about it Dennis? He's here: http://twitter.com/dahowlett
- Robert Scoble
Money and/or sponsorship does not make one credible.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: exactly right. And I'm not going to do a Skype interview with him. I will only fight him here on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
im credible and i don't have money OR sponsorship ;)
- Tyler Gillies
Dennis says that he's willing to take me on, but so far has been chicken. He already has a friendfeed account here: http://friendfeed.com/dahowle...
- Robert Scoble
Credibility is to some extent gained through approval by others. Commercial approval is not the easiest kind to get. So to a certain extent I agree. However, having sponsorship for your blog does not make you uber-credible.
- Ian Holton
Ian: usually sponsorship happens because you have an audience, not because you are credible.
- Robert Scoble
"A Fool and his money are soon parted" and I have seen plenty of writers who have foolish rich friends. That does not make them more credible. You gain authority from your readers.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
But isn't an audience large enough to make you worthy of sponsorship not a sign that a certain minimum amount of people think you are credible (in what you are saying/doing)?
- Ian Holton
Why is fighting so important to you? And telling who's wrong? Exchange opinions, learn from eachother. Don't fight so much!
- erwin blom
agree with erwin. no idea why this has to be debated at all.
- geoff hines
I have to agree with Erwin. You always take "attacks" to a new personal level, Robert.
- Ian Holton
I have no sponsorship, my credibility is based on my reason, judgement, and writing. I had been under the impression that sponsorship implied something else (Robert said it, audience/reach)
- Mark Essel
I'll get you at recess!
- BryanSchuetz
Credibility doesn't share a corollary relationship with volume or ferocity. They're unrelated.
- Ken Camp
What started this fight?
- David Lloyd
Erwin: I'm passionate and some things are worth fighting out.
- Robert Scoble
And anyway I didn't pick this fight. Dennis did.
- Robert Scoble
what about the readers who are already pissed off?
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Zachary: they can come here and say why.
- Robert Scoble
That's true, he fired the first shot thats for sure, unprovocked too according to twitter history
- David Lloyd
i dont know how you replied to that so quickly, im not pissed off by you, go get em tiger...i was pissed off before
- Zachary Adam Cohen
An audience !(=>) [does not imply] credibility - even Michael Jackson will tell you this. However an audience does imply marketing ability which is what makes the $$$$s.
- Shaf
I'm passionate as well, and i'm a Scoble fan. But i don't think making things black and white so often gets us anywhere.
- erwin blom
Zachary: friendfeed is real time.
- Robert Scoble
Hope it's a good argument (one you can mutually learn from). I had one today with a good friend about an absolute reference frame/guiding laws of nature vs. local relative patterns.
- Mark Essel
erwin: black and white all the time doesn't work, but sometimes we must adopt this template of absolutes
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Erwin: I'm actually a lot more into the grays of life than you might know. But saying things clearly and definitively often gets a conversation going that I learn from.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - You'd me more credible and accurate if you said FriendFeed is "very near realtime". I'd concur with that.
- Ken Camp
Exactly right Erwin, also I think that this is purely a stab at eachothers ego. Nothing more than that.
- Wim Mulder
Wim: yes, and I want to engage with Dennis. The fact that he isn't showing up here says volumes.
- Robert Scoble
I just had the pleasure of 3hours of rational debate, discussion and arguments today. Reductio ad absurdum is an effective tactic one friend often uses, which generates polarized comparisons. I try to balance the debate into "regions of stability". We're rarely at the extreme boundaries we often use in our discussions.
- Mark Essel
what was the debate? representing a fair point of view on a sponsor's product? That could be interesting :D
- Mark Essel
I'm not sure the fact him not showing here says volumes other than to say if you look at his history he doesn't use FF for anything but a feed dump. That's what I see when I look at his profile. I would never expect to see him engage here over this. I think you know that too Robert. Go for neutral ground, but you calling him into your turf isn't something he's going to go for, and that...
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- Ken Camp
Robert it doesn't say volumes - he's being sensible. I like what Dennis writes and tbh doing 'this' is a non brainer.
- Shaf
Mark: no debate. He just said that I wasn't credible. I called him out and asked him to come here and explain himself.
- Robert Scoble
Ok, this whole issue just took a turn into schoolyard for me. I'm off this thread. Lost all interest.
- Ken Camp
Ken: it was schoolyard from the very beginning! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Me too - I'm out ... $15 wasted just like pay per view.
- Shaf
WAIT ! Robert can you ask your sponsor to refund me the $15 ? ;)
- Shaf
Shaf: heheh! That's what friendfeed needs: pay-for-participation rooms! That way Dennis and I could start a fight and get some money like professional boxers!
- Robert Scoble
I was hoping for some good debate, my xbox360 just got 3 red rings and after some powering on and off , and looking up the problem it'll cost me $99 to fix. Somehow I thought this was covered (its 4 years old). I sent an @Microsoft_Xbox asking about it
- Mark Essel
Robert - Pay per tweet ;) Take care gentlemen - Goodnight
- Shaf
@scobleizer I enjoy all your posts and they seem very credible to me
- p_poarch
Dennis recommended a conversation via Skype video. How about using tinychat? You guys can debate the credibility issues and others can join in chat.
- Debi Jones
speaking on which. anyone know software that you can record video of two people?
- Tyler Gillies
Debi: no. friendfeed is perfectly fine for having a conversation.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: it's like Ken says. Why not choose neutral ground if the conversation is important? No one would enjoy having their credibility challenged, but not sure if the conversation environment is the point you want to engage.
- Debi Jones
Debi: neutral ground? Yeah, like calling me out on Twitter is neutral. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I do not want to have this argument in private or somewhere else. Thanks.
- Robert Scoble
stick to your guns robert...dont let the shift the debate onto where to debate or method in anyway, that is a distraction....
- Zachary Adam Cohen
I think that credibility means one thing to an accountant and something very different to a community of people fanatical about the internet. Dennis admits that his problem is that he can't wrap his head around what you do. Robert, your ability to embrace ambiguity is part of what makes you so good at what you do.
- Matthew Schrock
who is this guy? he has sent me msgs in the past too. seems like a bit of a troll.
- sean percival
I'd pay $15 to see you box Dennis. It wouldn't make either one of you more credible though. Of course, I don't always agree with you, but you always seem credible to me.
- RobinDotNet
He's tweeting that you guys are good friends, but you're pushing folks to FF when they don't want to do that. Can't people just not go to FF if they don't want to? Are you twisting anybody's arm?
- RobinDotNet
sean: he is a troll and RobinDotNet Dennis is a hypocrite. He pushes people to his web site all the time.
- Robert Scoble
interesting that he thinks you're friends; do you think you're friends?
- RobinDotNet
Every single day, and I mean EVERY day I get a follower or two like this http://twitter.com/MoneyMakers who link to posts on their blogs such as "How twitter can make you $2000 a month" and "Get 40000 followers in 30 days!". At least I don't get this crap on FF :D
- David Lloyd
RobinDotNet: no, I wouldn't call us friends. Especially after the way he's been acting online and he refuses to come over here and explain himself.
- Robert Scoble
Of course they are "social media experts" etc ;)
- David Lloyd
He doesn't seem like much of a friend. If I make an accusation, I'm either going to apologize or explain myself. It's a stand-up thing to do.
- RobinDotNet
Children... take a deep breath, walk outside and smell some goddam roses. Life is really too short for this kind of BS
- Ben Kepes
If you have to argue your credibility... well, there's everyones answer...
- Ian Wright
Best looking and functional web desktop Symantec GoEverywhere (screenshot http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content...) goes nowhere: Beta closed, cancelled...
yup... http://www.cloudave.com/link...
- Ben Kepes
Is SaaS Cheaper Than Licensed Software? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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At the risk of offending the author - who I've actually met (yes - in person even) and have a huge amount of time for, I've gotta say the argument has more holes than a vintage gouda. Notwithstanding that I agree entirely and discuss the fact over here - http://www.cloudave.com/link... Nice!
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Comment on: Is SaaS Cheaper Than Licensed Software? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
At the risk of offending the author - who I've actually met (yes - in person even) and have a huge amount of time for, I've gotta say the argument has more holes than a vintage gouda. Notwithstanding that I agree entirely and discuss the fact over here - http://www.cloudave.com/link... Nice!
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: Revenue Model for Twitter Coming Soon - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Corvida - while it makes for a great headline, I think it's a little presumptuous to announce new revenue streams for Twitter. Even you close out this post with significant doubts. The comments of Fred Wilson had no real certainty in fact he was much much more equivocal than one would expect a VC to be - for him to say "and I think the same will be true for Twitter" shows no real clue over a safe monetisation path. The Twitter VCs realise there is no easy answer - and any slow down in consumer and ad spending close lots of monetisation doors for them.
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: Browsing in Private: Incognito Modes Are Only the First Step - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
It was hilarious at the recent Office 2.0 conference (the day after chrome launched). The enterprise lead from Google was there talking about incognito mode and his use case was for someone searching for athlete's foot remedies! Let's just get it out in the open - 99.99% of the time that incognito (and other private browsing options) are used, it'll be to cover up porn surfing Let's just get over it.....
- Ben Kepes
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Browsing in Private: Incognito Modes Are Only the First Step http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
It was hilarious at the recent Office 2.0 conference (the day after chrome launched). The enterprise lead from Google was there talking about incognito mode and his use case was for someone searching for athlete's foot remedies! Let's just get it out in the open - 99.99% of the time that incognito (and other private browsing options) are used, it'll be to cover up porn surfing Let's just get over it.....
- Ben Kepes
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"Getting Things Done" in The Enterprise http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Hi Jason Funny how different people can have different perspectives. I was there too (as you know) and I came away thinking that David is a bit of a snake oil merchant. I have to prefix my comment by saying that I'm a pretty organised person who manages to just GTD with ease. But I ail to see how a disorganised person will suddenly be "cured" by attending one of the GTD workshops. It's...
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- Ben Kepes
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Hey Ben, Good to hear from you. GTD is a bit like dieting - it ain't for everyone :) Like you, I have my own system but it can be good for people who need some help.
- Jason Rothbart
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Comment on: "Getting Things Done" in The Enterprise - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Hi Jason Funny how different people can have different perspectives. I was there too (as you know) and I came away thinking that David is a bit of a snake oil merchant. I have to prefix my comment by saying that I'm a pretty organised person who manages to just GTD with ease. But I ail to see how a disorganised person will suddenly be "cured" by attending one of the GTD workshops. It's also Oxymoronic to put life on hold for a few hours to be lectured to by a consultant who (in his own words) discovered the ultimate passive income tool in the GTD tool, program, seminars etc etc - wouldn't one be better just sitting down and.... well.. getting things done?
- Ben Kepes
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@benkepes: I'm up for a run, that'd be fun. Geeks need more exercise.
Shey, Jamaican of FF, ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ, Charlie Anzman and 8 other people liked this
That's the spirit !
- Mo Kargas
Get out there for a run Robert!
- Hutch Carpenter
call me if you need a partner
- Jeremiah Owyang
It's the Olympics isn't it, it always gets people thinking about exercise.
- jjprojects
I am in my cubicle most of the day in front of my computer, usually 8+ hours. It feels invigorating after working out from a long day at work. Like today, I lifted weights and then biked for 15 miles. ftw!
- imabonehead
come on everyone - it's an open invite - we might even manage to get FastTV to cover it - calling the gig Fit@o2con
- Ben Kepes
I think you should bike (though I understand that might be tough in Vegas), especially if this is your first big exercise in awhile. Your knees and body might tire far to easily jogging in a message that says: 'you're not a kid anymore'. Biking can get your cardio back in shape and tone your muscles a bit and then hit the pavement jogging in a few weeks.
- Andrew Leyden
@benkepes et al: I invite you all to be honorary members of chubby mommy running club. You don't have to be chubby, or a mommy, and our mantra is "Try, not cry!" and please send me pictures of your shoes: http://chubbymommyrunningclub.blogspot.com
- Julie Anderson
We should organize a regular Geek Run. Once a month 5k Geek Run somewhere in the Bay Area. Anyone interested?
- Ryan Kuder
Cool idea. Except I'm in Toronto. Anyone interested in a Toronto Geek Run?
- Troy Forster
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OK, the FH digital team is seriously discussing setting up a London Geek Run.
- Brendan Cooper
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Seriously, I can help organize these geek run events, would love to! My day job is corporate event strategy for tech companies, my blog's just for fun. Geek runs would be a nice combo of work and fun for me. Work email me at janderson@eventlivingservices.com
- Julie Anderson
OK, we're in business. @Julie, are you in Silicon Valley? As of this morning, we've got a blog (http://rungeeksrun.com), we're on Upcoming (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...), follow @rungeeksrun on Twitter, and natch, it's all aggregated here on FriendFeed (http://friendfeed.com/rungeek...). Let's make it happen!
- Ryan Kuder
Hey Ryan, fabulous blog! Trying to add you to my Twitter, tech error. I'm juliejulie. I'm in Bend, OR, but telecommute down to Bay Area company, www.eventlivingservices.com out of Portola Valley. We work with many large tech companies down there, so I can help recruit and organize.
- Julie Anderson
start running bob. scary what happened to om...
- Ryan
Robert - Put the huge camera down first. I know it'll be hard ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Oh dear, does he have to interview us while we're running? I'm not sure how much I can talk and run...
- Julie Anderson
Facebook Didn't Want to Sue StudiVZ - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Yes it may be more rational for Facebook to bite down and buy StudiVZ, but it pains me to think about some copycats getting rich off this deal.
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@Q Dub - sure it was a rip off but it's also the fault of FB for being arrogant and ignoring the non english speaking world for so long
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: Facebook Didn't Want to Sue StudiVZ - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
@Q Dub - sure it was a rip off but it's also the fault of FB for being arrogant and ignoring the non english speaking world for so long
- Ben Kepes
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Breaking Free of Outlook http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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@Jordan use http://nuevasync.com to get free push calendar and contacts on you iPhone. It works great with my Google Calendar and Gmail contacts.
- Alexandre Testu
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It shouldn't be that hard - people should not have to set up complex third party apps in order to sync their mail, contacts and cal between Google and Outlook Until this is sorted, or android phones arrive, or something happens there will continue to be major impediments to switching entirely http://diversity.net.nz/gmail-a...
- Ben Kepes
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The great thing was that in the 1.5 hours I had after layoff notice yesterday, as I was scrambling to move all the music I'd bought from Amazon, my taxes and other personal information off the company machine (as a consultant it's our only machine on the road) -- I didn't have to worry about important email. I told everyone how to find me and I left. The cloud is a comfortable place to be.
- Rotkäpchen
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Comment on: Breaking Free of Outlook - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
It shouldn't be that hard - people should not have to set up complex third party apps in order to sync their mail, contacts and cal between Google and Outlook Until this is sorted, or android phones arrive, or something happens there will continue to be major impediments to switching entirely http://diversity.net.nz/gmail-a...
- Ben Kepes
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Microsoft Makes Calendar Sync Work http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Good news. Now, it should also be possible to sync with Google Calendar. But I guess that is only me dreaming :-)
- Baard @ Pixum
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Sarah - this solution does a great job of syncing MS owned calendar services - there is a vast difference between that and true global calendar sync. I for instance use Google calendar and Win mobile - does this solution provide sync for my use case? Not at all
- Ben Kepes
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Hi, Sarah. I had some thoughts, but many of them were already covered in the comments ;) Calendar sync should be table-stakesâit's something we've needed since the dawn of computing, and has been available in different forms for ages. It just hasn't been implemented very well yet. Is this the future? No, it's making up for the past. We will see this everywhere soon, and everything will be synced by default. I'm just surprised it's taken so long.
- Zach Beauvais
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Comment on: Microsoft Makes Calendar Sync Work - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Sarah - this solution does a great job of syncing MS owned calendar services - there is a vast difference between that and true global calendar sync. I for instance use Google calendar and Win mobile - does this solution provide sync for my use case? Not at all
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: WordPress Comes To iPhone - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Luckily WPhone works for those of us who are mobile but mobile without an iPhone!
- Ben Kepes
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WordPress Comes To iPhone http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Luckily WPhone works for those of us who are mobile but mobile without an iPhone!
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Comment on: More Amazon S3 Downtime: How Much is Too Much? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Sometimes disruption causes some ups and down - a move to cloud computing is definitely in the class of a disruptive change and these outages are an example of the ups and downs to be expected. More <a href="http://diversity.net.nz/sometim...">here</a>
- Ben Kepes
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i've wanted to post this for a long time: "Will Mainstream Users Ever Learn About The Browser's Adress Bar?" http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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my mom types every address into the Google search window - no wonder they have 70% of the search market :P
- Nathaniel Payne
i hadnt even thought of that part of it!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I've always said that if I go back to school, my thesis will be on how a persons use of Windows correlates to their personality and psychological make-up. For example, how do people cut and paste? Edit cut, edit paste vs. ctrl-C, ctrl-V vs. right clicks. People putting URL's outside of the address bar is one of those things that is a peeve when I have to watch it, but interesting when...
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- Scott Schnaars
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People type into the Google search box because they don't realize that the web is not yet the semantic web, and so they ask that search box to 'find me what I mean' (not some ditzy dub dub dub gleeble dot gurp). They're way ahead of Marshall and all the pundits and nerds (me included) who have become artificially intelligent through too much code wanking :-)
- Mark Szpakowski
that's a fascinating theory, Mark. I think you may be on to something.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall - great post - sometimes it's easy to navel gaze a little to much in this rarefied world of the digerati. While we could wax lyrical about the e-tards who can't even tell the difference between url box and search box - those e-tards make up the majority out there. Really design should be focussed totally on them and not those of us who, at the end of the say, would probably just prefer a command line search prompt
- Ben Kepes
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They will never learn. I think the opposite will happen. The address bar will disappear being replaced by the search bar. Why? Because most of the time people search the web even if they know exactly what their target is. The url is and will remain just a way for the browser, and for the search engines to identify content. This kind of usage pattern shows us that the users care only about the real information, they try to strip away useless bits like http, www, or .com and there is nothing wrong with this.
- Andrei Savu
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Marshall, I think that if it works for 99 per cent of people then it's not wrong, just different. I think I remember this idea being raised the last time these figures were released and it reminds me of the old (and long since resolved) debate about the command line versus a GUI. Personally, I think many people have better things to do on-line than remember the specific combination of...
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- Paul McKeon
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I've never thought it would be possible for people to mistake their address bar with search bar. Maybe browsers should paint them in diferent colors?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I do that all the time but for some specific reasons: 1) I use opera and every time I use the search bar google gives money to them and I like to support them 1) It's a sanity check to make sure I am not hitting a typo squatter.
- Lurking Grue
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Comment on: Will The World End if Mainstream Users Ever Learn About The Browser's Address Bar? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Marshall - great post - sometimes it's easy to navel gaze a little to much in this rarefied world of the digerati. While we could wax lyrical about the e-tards who can't even tell the difference between url box and search box - those e-tards make up the majority out there. Really design should be focussed totally on them and not those of us who, at the end of the say, would probably just prefer a command line search prompt
- Ben Kepes
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SugarSync Adds File Send Feature http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
@Josh - the post was about SS's offering, I'm keen to review Syncplicity's offering soon
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: SugarSync Adds File Send Feature - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
@Josh - the post was about SS's offering, I'm keen to review Syncplicity's offering soon
- Ben Kepes
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Can Browser Add-ons Be Businesses? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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I use a few machines throughout the day as a student. It's really too bad that I can't store my extensions in the cloud, and easily load them from any FF browser. The problem, of course, is that it's a security disaster. From what I understand, there are a couple companies attacking this problem, Mozilla included.
- Jams Levy
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Alex - I came away feeling a little scared for you and the browser add on industry in general. If you, an add on company entrepreneur yourself, don't have a clearly defined way to monetise your product what hope is there Glad I'm not in the add on business!
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: Can Browser Add-ons Be Businesses? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Alex - I came away feeling a little scared for you and the browser add on industry in general. If you, an add on company entrepreneur yourself, don't have a clearly defined way to monetise your product what hope is there Glad I'm not in the add on business!
- Ben Kepes
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my post on RWW re Vodafone NZ's iphone extortion: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Mark Derricutt and Stuart Maxwell liked this
Yeah, it is outrageous...but par for the course here in NZ. We have a duopoly so they can get away with it. I'm over the outrage now, just disappointed that Vodafone NZ didn't do something better to really promote the use of the mobile web here. With this kind of data pricing it remains an expensive luxury instead of a handy utility. Gutted.
- Charles
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Thanks for bringing some attention to Vodafone's outrageous pricing. It makes the Rogers pricing in Canada look cheap and cheerful!
- Stuart Maxwell
yup - vote with your wallets, don't buy it. I feel better about our RM99/month(USD 33)unlimited data plan here in M'sia now - and hsdpa is in nearly all urban areas too. Damn worried about data roaming charges when i visit NZ shortly tho!
- Paul Moss
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I'm with @Morgan on this one easiest solution is to say no - go with another network and another device....
- Ben Kepes
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Comment on: Vodafone NZ Charges "Like a Wounded Bull" For iPhone 3G - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
I'm with @Morgan on this one easiest solution is to say no - go with another network and another device....
- Ben Kepes
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very bad news - Iranian Parliament to Debate Death Penalty for Bloggers http://is.gd/M0h
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WTF?!
- l0ckergn0me
i think they are debating weather to include wordpress bloggers or just users of blogger. :)
- (jeff)isageek
It's not exactly a very liberal/free-speechy kind of nation is it?
- Adam Turetzky
This more than anything I can think of makes me glad I'm American today.
- Sprague D
Sunny-side up: At least they're debating it. :-)
- Louis Gray
I feel sorry for the Iranian people who have to deal with these idiots
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
this is just part of a "good cop, bad cop" game. they'll defeat the bill and then everyone will go "Yay! now bloggers only get torture and years in prison for being snarky about the government! Iran is teh progressive democracy!"
- Karim
Aaron, don't let Sean McBride see that!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Peter, your comment illicited a surprise snort out of me. I never snort. Good show!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Need a shirt now that says, "Give me Blogging, or give me death!" - proud to be an American!
- Jesse Stay
@Ivan Pope - nice reply - people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks and all that @Peter Simard - I think you'll find Nero (he of the horse for senator fame) was higher on the dodgy ranking than the Iranian Government or Ahmadinejad himself @Jonnyc - spoken like a true Xenophobe - is it timely to mention the debacles that have been performed in the name of other religions - witness...
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- Ben Kepes
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I believe they will just chop off hands for tweets
- Nicholas Molnar
crazy world we're living in
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
i am from iran. this isn,t only for wordpress or blogger.it,s all about bloggers in iran.:(
- mhmazidi
:O
- Shandiz
Why would a people put up with such nonsense?
- Vince DeGeorge
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