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Steven Perez - I will post on all of your threads that you disable the "comments" when you disagree with a poster over simple free speech.
Very old and very crafty.
- Berthe
Berthe, you may be old but I don't think you're very crafty. My opinion of you is very low. It is my opinion that on Steven's post and on other posts (most recently some by Andrew C.) you are intentionally saying things you know to be hurtful and racist in order to provoke a reaction. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps you are speaking your awful beliefs not to intentionally bait or troll but...
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- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, you are of the same ilk as Steven Perez: incapable of civil discourse with an anonymous person on the internet that you couldn't pick out of a police line up. You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope you do not have any family or children because I pity them dealing with your narcissism and intolerance.
- Berthe
And you don't read too good, either, Stephen Mack. What I said was that the Irish were hired by plantation owners to work in the malaria infested places like Sea Island. The plantation owners did not care if the Irish died from malaria. It was the lives of the Irish that were not valued.
- Berthe
In fact you the first person here on FriendFeed I have ever been rude to. Why? Because you were far far ruder first. I am not ashamed. Rather, you should be ashamed, due to the rudeness and hate you show to millions of people. Which is worse? To be rude to a single person, or to express hatred and intolerance for millions? If you were to take a second to read my posts, you know that I do in fact have children. I try to teach selflessness and compassion.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
And your reading comprehension is nil. I'm pointing out that you don't care that the lives of the black slaves were not valued, but you do point out the lives of the Irish were not valued. But to you, one of those things is of no consequence, and the other is. Why is that?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I am not rude, not ever. I point out your small minded intolerance of free speech and you can't take even that , from an anonymous poster on the internet. How bad is that? You are the one who MUST be filled with hatred, anger and resentment.
- Berthe
Go ahead, read through my six years of comments and find one other place where I've been rude. I'll wait. And then ask yourself: Why is he rude to me, and ONLY to me? Could it be because I deserve it? Reflect on that please.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
The plantation owners hired Irish for the malaria infested plantations in order to save the lives of the black slaves.
- Berthe
No, I do not think I will base my life on the judgment of one Stephen Mack! Ha, ha, ha. I sure got you right when I called you a narcissist.
- Berthe
Berthe, you have a very odd definition of the word "rude." "I am not rude, not ever." --Berthe, in this thread. "Gee, that is so typical of the phony goodie goodie: pettiness, threats and meanness to anonymous internet posters they couldn't pick out of a police line-up." - Berthe in http://friendfeed.com/silas21...
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I fully admit I am being rude to you and attacking you (because I think you deserve it). However, you don't seem to admit that you're being even more rude in response, despite the obvious rudeness of your comments here. Odd.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
What I said was not rude unless it is rude to call out a threat. Is one supposed to respond with sweetness and light to a nasty threat? I think not.
- Berthe
I am not ever rude because I respect free speech. Thats the great thing about the internet but some people (like yourself) cannot stand free speech. It bugs the hell out of them.
- Berthe
I don't think you need to respond sweetly to threats. Two issues: 1. He didn't threaten you. 2. You WERE rude, and yet you don't seem to understand how, and you still believe yourself to be not rude, "not ever." Your statements are absurd.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
You are free to have as much free speech as you like. I welcome it. My response to you is with more free speech, which seems to upset you.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
No, it is not ever rude to speak about history. No sane person is offended by facts and history. That is not in any way a personal attack. You should think about it a bit. Nothing anyone says about history can hurt you.
- Berthe
By any objective measure, isn't the phrasing you used of "Ha, ha, ha, I sure got you right when I called you a narcissist" rude? How does that reconcile against your other statement that you are never rude? If your interpretation of this recent history is so far off, how can anyone even begin to believe your interpretation of history older than five minutes?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I am certainly not upset. I am sitting in a recliner chair in New Jersey with a nice labrador dog on the floor next to me. Life is good.
- Berthe
And I am not upset either. I am enjoying a muffin in California with my children sleeping peacefully nearby. Life is good.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, someone who tells me to read through his six years of posting on friendfeed is a narcissist. That could be a definition of narcissist.
- Berthe
It could be -- but I told you that solely to back up my claim that I have never been rude to anyone else on FriendFeed other than you. Again: I admit I am being rude to you. And my assertion is that I have been rude ONLY to you (because you deserve rudeness, scorn and vilification for your abhorrent positions on matters related to race).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
And you deserve to be marked as intolerant of free speech. Certainly only an extreme narcissist would think that because HE is rude only to one person that that person must be a terrible person.
- Berthe
You don't understand free speech in the slightest. I am not censoring you. I am not telling you anything other than my opinion. Feel free to point out any place where I've been doing anything other than that. You have free speech. I have free speech. However, FriendFeed is a private web site that neither you nor I control, so if you're alluding to First Amendment free speech, that's irrelevant for private discussion such as this.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Again you accuse me of narcissism in one breath, but maintain you've "not ever" been rude in the other breath. That's breathtakingly inconsistent.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yes, I have free speech but no thanks to you. Thanks to Friendfeed. It bugs the hell out of you.
- Berthe
Its not more narcissistic to say I am not rude than to say I am not fat.
- Berthe
Bugs the hell out of me? Not at all. You expressed a set of opinions. I expressed another one, up above. We're both practicing speech, and only that. You're the one who seems bent out of shape by my criticism of you.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I don't have any opinion about whether or not you're a narcissist or whether or not you're fat. I have no idea, on either count. I told you already how disgusting I find your opinions. I am also pointing out how inconsistent your opinions are, including that opinion you have that you're "not ever" rude.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Read over that first post of yours, the one that ends " I find you utterly disgusting." and think about whether you are capable of civil discourse about history. You are a narcissistic tyrant, sorry to say.
- Berthe
I agree I'm probably not capable of civil discourse about history -- with you. I find you too disgusting for that, sorry to say. I agree I'm being rude and attacking you (because I have free speech, and because I have a low opinion of you). However, of the two of us: One is rude, and fully admits it. The other is rude yet strangely claims to "not ever" be rude. Which is which, I wonder?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Wonder away.
- Berthe
Apparently Steven bans speech that doesn't mirror his own. Oh, well, so much for being morally and intellectually superior.
- Todd
Yeah, these folks probably teach their kids to hate Republicans! They don't see the hypocrisy.
- Berthe
This is a prime example of what happens when you don't walk on eggshells around certain people. How would such people respond in person? And many wonder what happened to civil society and honest debate!
- Todd
And yet you don't see the hypocrisy of spewing hatred for millions of people while simultaneously bemoaning your so-called lack of free speech when people call you out for your abhorrent positions. Personally, I teach my children to love, not hate -- even Republicans and even (gasp!) gay people, transgendered people and black people.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
And you don't seem to know what hatred is. That's the problem! You take what you disagree with, even if you are wrong, and call it hatred. That's not civil or honest.
- Todd
It's honest in the sense that I honestly believe the words you are saying are hate-filled. You don't seem to understand why anyone would be insulted or horrified by the positions you hold.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
What could possibly be hateful in stating that I owe no one a thing for slavery, or anything else that I was not involved in, did not benefit from and that happened before I was even born, or stating that there is no group guilt or innocence in such things? There is absolutely no hate in such sentiment. I think the position where another person deems me guilty through phoney self-righteousness is thinly-veiled dislike at the very least.
- Todd
Todd, sorry, I was addressing Berthe, not you. (I don't think you and I have interacted before until just now.) But that wasn't clear from when I said "you are saying" in my last comment; apologies for the ambiguity. But I do think you have some views that I find repulsive. For example, your comment on this post from Berthe...
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- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Todd and Stephen - I kept this comment someone made on the isteve blog. This is exactly what goes on around here on Friendfeed: "The typical response of our relativistic age: there are no objective morals at all that apply to everyone, well, except the few that I prefer, and anyone who violates those is a wicked, wicked homo sapien ('fairness', 'don't discriminate' are the most common...
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- Berthe
I'm not inclined to take the ACLU seriously. Still, there is nothing repulsive in stating the obvious about black crime and the legal double standards that benefit blacks and other minorities, such as affirmative action and all sorts of minority-based preferential treatment. Surely the massive benefits trump any overstep by the police who are dealing with a community that produces far more than its share of violent crime.
- Todd
I'm honestly curious about the concept of "objective morals," Berthe. Set by whom? Are they immutable? Must everyone agree to them, or be judged by you as inherently immoral and an unclear thinker?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Todd: I don't see any statistics or evidence for massive support and preference in the system. Do you honestly feel any such benefits you assert would outweigh the increased likelihood of being executed for a crime or being shot under the terms of Stand Your Ground laws?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, what stats are needed for affirmative action and set asides? The race-based preferences are law. I can go to cities throughout my state and region and see generations of almost exclusively minority families in public housing (now section 8 to cloud the issue) who have every need paid for by the government. There is nothing that can justify that! As for higher rates of execution and being shot, that's largely a reflection of higher rates of violent crime.
- Todd
Stephen, you're the one with the moral dudgeon around here. Historical facts offend you morally. That was the essence of your first comment on the thread. Todd and Sean McBride are 2 posters here who evince goodwill to all and I'm always perplexed why that isn't the norm towards other anonymous commenters on the internet. As Todd noted, what would they do if you met them in real life?
- Berthe
Todd, I have actual work to do so I can respond to all of that, but I want to focus for a second on the "reflection of higher rates of violent crime" argument. What a ridiculous position! You stated earlier in that comment I quoted that you believe blacks are disproportionately responsible for crimes. Suppose that you, Todd, were a police chief with that view. You would then dictate to...
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- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Berthe, I'm not offended by historical facts. I've yet to see you cite a single historical fact here in this discussion. The only thing I'm offended by mightily is you, which I have stated up front and been entirely consistent about. I ignore Sean entirely, and have never interacted with Todd before today. I am treating him (and you) exactly the same way online that I would treat him (and you) if I were to meet in person: I would not let hate-filled positions go unchallenged.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
You still haven't pointed out what statement was hate filled.
- Todd
Todd, I beg your pardon, but I think I have. Please re-read the rest of my comment from earlier that begins with the phrase, "Todd, sorry, I was addressing Berthe, not you." There's a specific cite there. But I haven't begun to talk to you about your hate-filled comments about transgendered individuals yet.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, you make some real jumps in logic. I never mentioned genetics. Also, arrests are not the same as actual crimes committed, which is what I am referring to. Are you really trying to tell me that violent crime is not a real issue in the black community? Why excuse the crime? Also, there is no link between racial preferences and crime--I don't even know where that came from.
- Todd
I know you didn't mention genetics. That's the reason I asked you if you thought if it was genetic or not.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Stephen, I read your previous post. There is no hatred expressed by Berthe, and my comments on transgenders are not hateful. Hate is a violent and extreme emotion that's just not present in the comments I have read or made.
- Todd
Stephen, you came to this thread because of the discussion on the other thread, right??? That was the one where I wrote about Flexner's "Washington, the Indispensable Man" and Washington's views on slavery and where I wrote about the Irish hired to work in malaria infested areas in order that black slaves would not get malaria and die. Those historical facts are what offended you in the first place.
- Berthe
Berthe: Correct, I came from http://friendfeed.com/silas21... -- and I think you forgot that I previously pointed out your position on that fact versus your wondering "how much blacks were ever victims" was internally inconsistent.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Todd, I do believe that we can conclude that Stephen does not really know WHY he is angry with me (and perhaps with you, too). But he just is. That is very typical of these kinds of discussions here on Friendfeed. Ask what it is besides free speech that they specifically have SUCH a problem with and you get bluster and "you're a terrible person." Absurd. Would Stephen Mack call the...
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- Berthe
Todd, perhaps we define hate differently. What I see is that the views you and Berthe express of certain classes of people -- black people, gay people, transgendered people -- is of intolerance and resentment. I have cited several examples already to support why I feel that way. To me, that's an example of hate-filled speech. In my opinion, speech doesn't have to be violent or rude to be hate-filled.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Berthe, on the contrary, I am not angry with you and have never used that word. I am simply disgusted by you.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
We went over the internally inconsistent, Stephen. You did not get it that the lives of the IRISH were not valued.
- Berthe
And you didn't understand why I pointed out that your shock that the lives of the Irish not being valued but your lack of compassion for the lives of the slaves that were similarly not valued is the very heart of your inconsistent blind spot.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yes, Stephen, you would treat me with vicious contempt and you would gladly have a beer with those black guys who commit 50% of the violent crime in this country.
- Berthe
I'd gladly have a beer with you and tell you to your face why I find your views disgusting. I'd also be able to point out the specifics of your prejudice and hatred expressed in the second half of your sentence there.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
No, the slaves were not "similarly not valued." Thats the point. The Irish were not valued in order to spare the slaves. Sheesh.
- Berthe
They were slaves, sheesh. Many were killed. Their lives were not theirs to live freely. Is it your belief that because others were killed to spare them, that made their lives uplifting and violence-free and wonderful?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Well, you sure haven't pointed out anything specific on this thread. You've just gone on a diatribe against me personally. I'd be dignifying your rant if I called it an "ad hominem" attack.
- Berthe
I admitted up front that I was ad hominem. I've been 100% consistent on how much your views disgust me.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
People were conscripted to fight wars up until the 70's and died in wars. "Their lives were not theirs to live freely" - thats not unique to those slaves. There were horrible conditions in NYC tenements (see "How the Other Half Lives"). People came here as indentured servants. We wouldn't say that ANY of those folks were able to live their lives freely. There were surely slaves who lived nicer lives than many of the people in the tenements ---- its just common sense.
- Berthe
The existence of other horrible things does not make slavery any less horrific. Your position earlier was that you wondered "if blacks were ever victims" -- clearly your position when you said that was that slavery was not evil. Have you now shifted that position?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
(Going for now. Talk to you later. My promise is that I won't let bigotry or discriminatory views go unchallenged. My position is that you are free to speak your mind, and I'm equally free to respond with my own views. Have a nice day.)
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
They were "victims" until 1863, right? White males were - up to a certain age - subject to conscription at that time; all females were denied the right to vote at that time. So, at 1863, everyone in the country probably was or had been a victim in one way or another or in many ways. By our standards, almost everyone lived a miserable life. My original point was that historians and...
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- Berthe
Stephen, I see the problem you are having. You say "bigotry." You are not able to grant others respect that they think and have opinions they come to with information and logic. Its probably pointless to talk to someone who thinks very highly of himself but has no basic goodwill towards others.
- Berthe
The problem for Steven is that he doesn't have the moral or intellectual high-ground. All he can do is call others stupid or racist before abruptly cutting off the debate. Typical.
- Todd
Todd, do you mean me? My name is Stephen, not Steven. I never called anyone stupid. I did express my opinion that some of the views expressed were racist or bigoted. I didn't realize we were debating here. I was insulting Berthe and expressing my low opinion of her. I concede the moral and intellectual high ground, since by definition I'm not going to hold either if all I intended to do...
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- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
My comment was directed at Steven Perez, not you, Stephen
- Todd
http://www.isteve.blogspot.com/2013... Pretty convincing article and graph that "gay marriage" is a media elite invention of the last 20 years. "Gay marriage" or "homosexual marriage" is virtually absent from all texts prior to the 70s and then very, very few mentions until mid 90's when it spikes.
It makes sense. Few gay couples will want to marry because the tax code favors single filing for 2 income couples.
- Berthe
I haven't read the article that you linked to, but I don't see the urgency of gay marriage. The whole issue is largely manufactured. There are far bigger issues that need to be tackled, yet the media makes homosexual rights seem like a life or death situation. When most kids in the U.S. do not live with both biological parents, I'd say that traditional marriage needs to be supported as a major issue.
- Todd
Todd, the article makes a very good case that its an entirely manufactured issue. No one talked about it prior to 1970, not gays or straights, and then very rare in all texts until 1994 when it spikes and then in 2003 to present, the spike gets even steeper. My daughter is in her 20's and she doesn't know anyone who opposes gay marriage, gay or straight. Well, no wonder: their entire...
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- Berthe
Great comments on the article, like this one: The typical response of our relativistic age: there are no objective morals at all that apply to everyone, well, except the few that I prefer, and anyone who violates those is a wicked, wicked homo sapien ('fairness', 'don't discriminate' are the most common examples today). We are losing the capacity to think clearly. I have no doubt that...
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- Berthe
http://www.nytimes.com/2013... Wish it wasn't such a shallow article. Why does he now support gay marriage? Is it because he cares so much about individual rights, a man who is OK with "collateral damage" deaths in wars based on lies?
Clinton's Serbian War is proven to have been based on lies about atrocities. Look it up.
- Berthe
It would be interesting if anyone in the news media asked some questions about the "common good" of the situation. Where is this heading? If the 4th amendment and the "fundamental right to marry" require gay marriage, what would be the argument against people marrying siblings - and perhaps they would marry a sibling or even a parent for the same reason being argued in one of these...
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- Berthe
Within 5 years, we would see a fight to allow marriage to close relatives if there is a constitutional right to marry as a matter of individual rights.
- Berthe
A widow with $2 million in an IRA/401(K) is told that she has 6 weeks to live. She has a daughter. Why would she not want to marry the daughter in order to pass that $2 million on free of taxes? You got 6 weeks to live, you're not too worried about what people think.
- Berthe
"The primary means of soft control through history is inducing neurosis. Today this is seen in people calling everything racist and sexist." - found that in a comment section and saved it
In the dark ages, it was telling people that they were going to hell for their sins.
- Berthe
What will be used to induce neurosis once charges of racism and sexism carry no weight? I'm thinking fear of the state for having the wrong political opinions, which isn't new, or unrelated to charges of sexism or racism, but not fully developed into a political or thought system in the U.S. and Europe. Otherwise, I think IQ would be a great way to divide people and induce neurosis....
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- Todd
Yeah, we do get a lot of talk about geniuses and their "algorithms." I am sure a lot of people question themselves for not doing well at "math and sciences" because thats where all the job opportunities are supposed to be.
- Berthe
Berthe- I don't just mean math and science, but many people who have less of an understanding of math and science than I have babble on about science as if it is religion, or one set of correct ideas not to be questioned-- the same could be said of many who know more than I do.
- Todd
Todd, I mentioned to Sean about the 2 Costa Rican fellows who have been working around my home repairing storm damage initially. We added other jobs because this is an opportunity to get things done. One of them is a treasure; he knows how to do everything - masonry, carpentry, laying pavers, etc. etc. But they could not find Turkey on a map. They are probably unaware of most of whats...
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- Berthe
Yes, I do think the elites could manipulate "intelligence" into conforming to officially sanctioned opinion.
- Berthe
http://apps.npr.org/unfit-f... "End of welfare as we know it" was a canard, a mirage. People were shifted to SSI and Disability.
"As I got further into this story, I started hearing about another group of people on disability: kids. People in Hale County told me that what you want is a kid who can "pull a check.""
- Berthe
http://www.phillymag.com/article... Being White in Philadelphia
Amazing comments section. They turned the PC filter off.
- Berthe
This is an interesting article, but I don't think there will be any real connection between most whites and blacks--the state of racial politics will make sure of this. Culture is also an issue, but race relations between blacks and whites will probably be bad for a long time to come. Large parts of the U.S. government function to serve the interest of blacks through civil rights...
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- Todd
This is an interesting quote: "What gets examined publicly about race is generally one-dimensional, looked at almost exclusively from the perspective of people of color. Of course, it is black people who have faced generations of discrimination and who deal with it still." The first part I agree with. The second part is just wrong. Blacks get all sorts of preferential treatment under...
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- Todd
Todd, what I wonder about is the generation that has grown up with all the one-sided politically correct indoctrination: Will they cast it off? Because it is ridiculous. White people in their 20's and 30's think gay marriage is one of the most important issues in the world. I'm not kidding. Gay marriage is a politically manufactured distraction. Just like only a tiny percentage of gays...
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- Berthe
CNN did a segment on this "Being White in Philly" article and the anchor right out of the box owned up to CNN doing a number of "Black in America" programs. I think they are whole hours with Soledad O'Brien. I haven't watched any of them because I know what to expect, the usual baloney that makes black people out to be the salt of the earth.
- Berthe
I agree with you about the circus surrounding gay marriage, Berthe. A cousin of mine is gay, and several family friends are gay, as well. I don't have a problem at all with gay people, but I can't stand what passes for homosexual politics. The people I know mean a lot to me, but there is a nastiness that characterizes many in the organized gay community. Several years back, I was...
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- Todd
Berthe, I don't have much hope for future race relations. I think that most whites know they are being lied to, but are going along to get along. Not many people can truly afford to be insulated from the situation, and most people live close enough to affected areas to know the score. The hatred, anger and sense of entitlement within the black community is sometimes shocking. Just the...
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- Todd
Todd, I agree that the racial situation is hopeless and I posted a comment to that effect on the "Being White in Philly" article and it was deleted the next time I checked the comments. And I was polite, no foul language or attack on anyone other than the media and politicians, specifically Obama. Obama saying "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon" was a turning point for me. The...
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- Berthe
I've met quite a few gay people who are college friends of my daughter and they are all nice people and none of them wants to join the military or get married. Where did this issue come from? 40 years ago I worked for a printing company that did invitations and we printed plenty of invitations to gay commitment ceremonies. There is nothing stopping gay people from having ceremonies and...
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- Berthe
One thing that does concern me is "transgender." These are people with very serious mental problems, IMO. I don't think its a good thing for our culture to encourage them. Theres a 6 year old boy in the news, Coy Mathes, whose mother says he's been transgender-identified since age 18 months????? Theres something wrong with the mother.
- Berthe
I don't get the transgender thing, either, Berthe. I don't really care if an adult wishes to have operations on his own dime, but children should be shielded from such talk. I actually worked with a transgender once, and it was strange. The man was big and masculine in every way except for his voice and breast implants, and he had a boyfriend who worked in the warehouse who was bigger...
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- Todd
My daughter had a transgender classmate, a woman in the process of becoming a male. Her/his parents supported her/him financially - they are very well off - but did not support the sex change decision so they became estranged. She/he developed cancer that may be related to all the drugs that are part of the transgendering. This is so sad to me: Already estranged and not wanting to hear...
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- Berthe
Todd, you will like John Derbyshire's weekly radio commentary transcripts. This week he writes about the "Being White in Philly" article http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinion... Everything he writes is just common sense and its the way people live, big mouthed white liberals as much as anyone.
- Berthe
nice blog to stop and read a story once in a while.
- Berthe
Neat. I came across the following site several years ago. http://thecemeterytraveler.blogspot.com/ Grave art is interesting. I went to Salem, Mass several years ago expecting to see old New England, but the atmosphere was Jersey Shore. Disappointing.
- Todd
Thanks for the blog, Todd. These blogs are so nice to run across. God bless the internet.
- Berthe
You are welcome, Berthe. I have a friend who is interested in grave art. You can't pass a cemetery with him in the car.
- Todd
http://www.11alive.com/news... Something very, very wrong. A convenience store owner is able to scam almost a million dollars from food stamps. This must be going on all over the country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013...
Note the comments. Not what you'd expect on HuffingtonPost.
Certified Public Accountant Jeopardy contestant asked about delivering X number of babies. He answers that his first career - and this guy doesn't look 40 - was as a family physician and he delivered a lot of babies as part of his training. "Why did you leave medicine to become a CPA?" "I just burned out. I literally couldn't do it any longer."
The don't have to rig the voting machines; this looks a lot easier. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013...
American liked this
http://www.reuters.com/article... Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported. Forty percent of Democrats.
"I fault the antiwar movement from that third day in office when Obama bombed Pakistan. Thats when we should have called for his impeachment." I remember that day and hearing it on the radio. http://911blogger.com/news...
What the mainstream media will never say about Chris Dorner, the LAPD serial killer: He believed everything the mainstream media told him, held all the mainstream media values. http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinion...
Just ran across something doing a search about Charles Lindbergh (there was a TV show on last night with a theory that Lindbergh kidnapped his own son). Lindbergh made a speech in 1941, a famous speech, in an effort to stop the US from entering the war in Europe. He made that speech on September 11, 1941....
There are no coincidences?
- Berthe
There aren't that many days of the year… birthday paradox?
- Amit Patel
Not a bad speech....he was right actually. There would not have been any consquences to the US had Britian lose the war--except the US would have the reputation of failing to aid a formal ally. I am not a total isolationist as Lindberg was, but I know of few wars in which the population had any idea of the real facts and real forces behind it.
- American
I'm not sure that more people would have died had the U.S. remained neutral. Would a shorter, regional conflict that ended with Germany and the Soviet Union going head-to-head have been less destructive than a world war in the end? Whatever the case, I see no evidence that Germany ever planned to attack the U.S. Then again, it was largely German scientists that made the Soviets a threat during the Cold War.
- Todd
That was Pat Buchanan's point about 20 years ago --- the US should have allowed the Soviets and the Nazis to fight each other and stayed out. Thats pretty much what happened, actually. Hitler pulled troops out of Italy fighting the Americans to send them to the Eastern front. I'll say it because I'm not a politician: the emphasis on the Holocaust and the concentration camps in the last...
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- Berthe
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk... Article implies the "Richard III bones DNA match" story is over hyped (surprise, surprise).
The conclusions that say the bones are Richard III's bones have not been peer removed and people can share the same mitochondrial DNA just by chance.
- Berthe
Its interesting because the MSM did the same overhyping of a Thomas Jefferson - Sally Hemmings descendants DNA match only a few years ago.
- Berthe
I liken this to the Manti TeO hoax in that its MSM hyping a story just to have a story. Its all we get! Many important, real stories get short shrift in the meantime.
- Berthe
The pilot for The Americans was very good. http://www.fxnetworks.com/theamer...
TCBY yogurt chain seems to be going out of business. http://247wallst.com/2012... Hillary Clinton was a director of TCBY before becoming First Lady. The frozen yogurt chains are all absurdly expensive. I expect they will all fail.
Red Mango - can easily spend $5 for their weighed self-serve product and they have the gall to put out a tip jar.
- Berthe
A late January New Years resolution: I'm going to put some effort into Friendfeed. Thanks to "Cristo" from Sean's friendfeed forum for pointing me in that direction.
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Be aware that Cristo is a mischievous personality who likes to provoke and stir the pot. :) Don't let him throw you off balance.
- Sean McBride
I'm going to figure out if there are Friendfeed discussions about a few topics I'm interested in. Don't quite know how to do that so I'll have to put some effort into it. Sean, I agree with you that Friendfeed lends itself to discussion more - a lot more - than things like Facebook or Twitter. I have no interest in taking pictures of myself at a restaurant and posting them on the...
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- Berthe
The best way to find discussions on Friendfeed is to search on topics in which you are interested -- and see if any discussion is going on. Regarding Facebook and Twitter: Friendfeed is for smart people :) -- people who dislike vain clutter.
- Sean McBride
I have been doing some searching and a surprising number of Turkish Friendfeeders come up.
- Berthe
There are some good discussions here but increasingly harder to find. I should try Sean's advice. One trick I use: if I follow someone, I filter out everything imported from Twitter unless it has a discussion with it (use Hide and then Hide like this)
- Amit Patel
Thanks, Amit.
- Berthe
Huntsman not fluent in mandarin; more media shilling for Huntsman http://www.slate.com/article...
"maybe the John Corzine/MF Global affair will be our black swan. When you realize the implications that nothing is really safe, at some point the realization that we can trust no one will reach critical mass and the panics begin. I still think this situation will be suppressed as much as possible until after the election." comment on...
Our government is like a jail break at an asylum, not one person has common sense. - good line from a proPaul commenter; about sums it up.
My comment, lets see if the Times posts it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011... GingerNew Jersey It boggles the mind that the NY Times wastes editorial space scolding Ron Paul for 20+ year old newsletters a few months after the President of the United States - who was endorsed by the NY Times - executed an American citizen and his 16 year old son without charges. If the NY Times really cared about human rights, civil rights, and civil liberties, you'd spend all your space writing about whats going on today to endanger those rights and values. And you would be scolding all of the other Republican candidates day and night for their demagoguery and bigotry, today, in 2011.
- Berthe
Stress relief. http://www.devastatingexplosions.com/ (click hand)
In Ames, Paul told the crowd that after the Sept. 11 attacks, the prevailing emotion in the government was “glee,” because “now we can go to war with Iraq.”
Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2011...
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save this one about the Bukharis http://www.infowars.com/911-con...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011... They stiffed a couple of banks out of $300,000 in August 2010 but are they doing the right thing to deprive themselves of family vacations and expensive sports for the children????
You know this is how people think, that they have a bigger responsibility to have a wonderful family experience, an experience that spends a LOT of money, than to repay loans that they've contracted for.
- Berthe
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