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Full text of email: "As of August 2013, some changes will be made to Harvard Business Review (HBR) article access for Business Source customers. This change will not affect institutions that have already purchased the expanded rights from Harvard Business Publishing. Further, customers buying a site license will not be impacted. As you are likely aware, full-text licensing agreements with publishers are subject to change in all databases, and EBSCO is committed to providing our customers with as much advance notice as possible on full-text content changes as often as we possibly can. With that said, we would like to inform you that as of August 1, 2013, all databases containing HBR will experience a change for 500 of the articles. These articles will become read-only, and will be clearly marked as such. For example, in Business Source Complete, there are currently 12,824 full-text articles from HBR, and 12,324 will continue to have the existing access functionality. If libraries wish...
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- awd
so, are they telling us which 500 articles?
- ellbeecee
I love how they thank me for my understanding when I'm totally confused. Which 500 articles? "Read-only"? "Course rights?"
- Rebecca Hedreen
Yeah. (our internal person just forwarded this to me as well). The "fuck you, HBR" part of me is assuming those 500 are articles they're republishing somehow (like this - http://www.amazon.com/HBRs-Mu... ) and this is a DANGER WILL ROBINSON thing.
- ellbeecee
what Rebecca said. what the heck does this mean??
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
from YouFeed
(or will the 500 articles be a moving target based on what's popular at the time? Will they be the 500 most recent? This isn't telling us *anything* other than "there's changes a-comin'!") #grumpylaura
- ellbeecee
I'm thinking their 500 most popular articles.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Yeah, I was surprised to read that my access to EBSCO content was something other than read-only! I think this has to do with direct linking to articles.
- JffKrlsn
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how will this work technically? no links to the direct url? couldn't you reverse engineer a link?
- Christina Pikas
They DO NOT LIKE faculty using their stuffs for electronic reserves. I'm sure they know the most popular articles and they will use magick to prevent us from linking to them without many extra dollars.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
I'm assuming they mean: no linking, no downloading, no printing (and, by means of blocking those 3 things, no course reserves. unless you pay their special fees.).
- Marianne
So, we will have to scan from the print to put into reserves? Can hbr stop that? Is there language in the print version that says what can and can't be fair use for reserve readings?
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Yeah, if you own the print, that would be completely different. There aren't any licensing terms when you own something--just copyright law. (You really think they'll ban printing? Don't think I've seen that in EBSCO before.)
- JffKrlsn
What Rebecca, Rudi said, "Read only" ???
- aarontay
Instead of a direct permalink, I guess we're to create a search which brings back only the one true result (like we are supposed to do now) ... and enforcement is unrealistic at best. Anyway, they're gonzo imho.
- awd
I read that in a meeting and went "what the hell?" I don't understand how this is enforceable at all.
- ~Courtney F
I love this sentence so much: "As you are likely aware, full-text licensing agreements with publishers are subject to change in all databases, and EBSCO is committed to providing our customers with as much advance notice as possible on full-text content changes as often as we possibly can."
- Meg V. Meg
At a faculty meeting, got asked about ereserves for HBR articles..... immediately thought of this.... Told him will get back to him on this issue after checking with business librarians...
- aarontay
Ereserves for HBR would require special permissions from HBR directly. I'm still waiting for the quote on access to the articles. It is a static list, though
- ~Courtney F
the list of articles is static, courtney? Interesting. That would make me really suspect it's tied to their repackaging articles as books initiatives of late
- ellbeecee
So what's the bottom line here? What's changed exactly? Any further explanation from EBSCOhost about what we can now no longer do on this already restricted journal?
- Stephen le Francoeur
When I read the email a while back, I got the impression the list is of the articles most linked to and downloaded. I wish we'd drop our subscription because the terms of license make the materials next to worthless at a university. DO NOT USE THIS STUFF TO TEACH WITH. Okay, jerks.
- kaijsa
Even if "ereserves" is just a link to ebsco platform from courseware? That's not allowed? I was told the 500 includes popular stuff such as on leadership...
- aarontay
Aaron, the way I read the restriction, yes. Even that would not be allowed.
- ~Courtney F
They have always been weird about links in syllabi and course systems for years. Whether or not it's okay to recommend an HBR article to a student in a hushed whisper is still unclear.
- barbara fister
Yup, LBC, I confirmed twice that it's a static list (I was kind of surprised). Stephen, according to the quote I got, the "extended rights" would "include the ability to print, save to a folder and include PDF’s of these articles in course work". I'm not sure who they think will be able to afford this, because I can assure you, the quote I received is well out of our reach.
- ~Courtney F
sigh. Apparently our Acq dep't read the EBSCO letter, verified that we don't have the extended rights, and left it at that. Why does it take ME to push them towards finding out what the language means, and which titles are effected, and that we need to know which of the titles are heavily used here and which spend much time on course reserves???Those are pretty obvious questions right? I'm not some kind of savant, right?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Rudy, the ebsco license for HBR already disallowed reserves, IIRC, and I know they monitored for linking to articles from within a CMS because the business school at a former workplace got hit by that.
- ellbeecee
Hmm. Then what's different now?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Right now I can save a personal copy, I can print a personal copy, I can email myself a personal copy of all the HBR articles. Come August, 500 of these (apparently a static list) will be unavailable for saving/printing/whatever that personal copy - I can still read the article on screen. At least that's how I'm interpreting the letter.
- ellbeecee
That is a correct interpretation of the letter. No download, no print, not even saving the article to a folder.
- Zamms
On an unrelated note (ahem) that is totally disconnected from the content of the rest of this thread (ahem), I think libraries really need to make sure that students and faculty have mastered screen capture software, as it's essential for all sorts of scholarly work.
- Stephen le Francoeur
^^^ hee hee hee hee hee
- Catherine Pellegrino
I agree, Stephen, and have had similar thoughts. That's an important skill in the digital world.
- ellbeecee
huh. Yeah. there's gonna need ot be some explaining of that...
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
In case it's not obvious: I'm back from Vancouver (Wa.), was offline throughout the Or/Wa LA conference, loved it...and by Monday may be back to normal (and starting final phases of The Big Deal and the Damage Done).
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[Which I had the presence of mind to print out--all but half a chapter, not yet written--in 4pages-to-a-sheet draft form and edit at the conference.]
- Walt Crawford
The surprise ending: I thought Horizon flew regional jets. Nope: Bombardier Q400s--76-seat prop jobs. Very much like a regional jet inside, though. And free NW wine or beer! (Now Alaska, with Horizon in smaller print underneath.)
- Walt Crawford
Those folks in OR/WA know how to do a great conference.
- barbara fister
True. This was my first time at a joint conference, but I've spoken at two previous Washington Library Association conferences, and always enjoyed it.
- Walt Crawford
OH how ridonkulous. Email from ACRL leads to a "Free!!" whitepaper about interlibrary loan - from the Copyright Clearance Center.
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SERIOUSLY?! dang. Intervention Time.
- RepoRat
LOL
- lris
Imagining FREE whitepaper on open access from Elsevier! FREE whitepaper on establishing good customer relations from JOVE.
- barbara fister
Oh jeez. That's sitting in my inbox right now, but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. DELETE.
- Catherine Pellegrino
FREE whitepaper on professional decorum from the Library Society of the World!
- Steele Lawman
SRSLY. I had a big ol' "Oh, what the fuck" moment.
- Jenica
I hate to think how many people blindly forward it thinking it's an ACRL publication. I almost did.
- barbara fister
o.O
- Marianne
Can someone forward to me? I didn't get and I am curious about the "from ACRL" part
- Lisa Hinchliffe
On its way, Lisa. It came from acrldelivers@ala.org
- Catherine Pellegrino
Also, not to be snarky (OH WHO AM I KIDDING) in order to download it, you have to give CCC your name, professional affiliation, email address, and job function. And the title on the cover appears to be set in Comic Sans.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Got it. Yes, ACRL Delivers is a revenue stream to offset budget needs not met by dues, subscriptions, registration fees, etc. I complained awhile back and at least they moved the "this is an ad" to the top.
- Lisa Hinchliffe
I didn't get that, either. Must be a list I am not on. Am okay with that.
- kaijsa
Wait, what? ACRL Delivers is an official ALA spam program exploiting members' eyeballs for revenue?
- Steele Lawman
Yes. Hey, gotta pay the bills. ALA delivers, too.
- barbara fister
Sent, Lisa. Also has "best practices" in the subject line. Oh pleeeezzeeee.
- barbara fister
Man, LSW has got to get in on this action. Except our ads would be for better stuff. But really, as far as the ACRL is concerned, when they are already pimping you out why should they care to whom?
- Steele Lawman
This reminds me of the time InTech almost sponsored Open Access Week. Only worse, and SPARC did the right thing when it was called to their attention.
- RepoRat
I haz it
- maʀtha
As a white person, I'm insulted that it is called a whitepaper.
- Andy
I thought our dues, and conference registration, and vendor fees for the exhibit floor paid ALA's bills?? Spamming me AIN'T ok
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Well, it's either raise dues and conference registration fees, or find additional revenue streams. Apparently raising dues hasn't had a lot of uptake, so...
- Catherine Pellegrino
Maybe they'll sell the naming rights to the conferences. "Elsevier's 2013 American Library Association Conference"
- Andy
Catherine, the association could also scale itself to fit what it can afford. I honestly have no idea where all that money goes (and I could probably figure it out if I wanted to spend the time, I just haven't). But the cost of ALA ALWAYS feels outsized compared to what I see as the benefits. Finding ways to raise more money instead of eliminating unnecessary programs just adds to my unhappiness.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I can't speak to ALA but I have served on the ACRL Budget and Finance Committee. From my perception, ACRL is about as lean and mean as you can get on efficiency. Especially since it isn't exactly easy to cut things (for example, I recall some pretty unhappy people at the idea of a certain committee or two being up for elimination last year/year before ... and yes, committees cost ACRL...
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- Lisa Hinchliffe
Obviously I'm not getting the emails, so if the membership is cool with it, who am I to complain. For me it's just another reason to avoid the overall annoyance that is ALA/ACRL.
- Steele Lawman
And isn't taking ads in publications significantly different from sending spam?
- Steele Lawman
Though people probably don't pay attention to it, when you set up your "relationship" with ALA - you agree to a set of communication parameters. So, not sure if it counts as spam if you agreed to receive it.
- Lisa Hinchliffe
hehehehe-no, it still totally counts as spam :)
- lris
(Lisa, at some point I'd like to hear more about how committees cost ACRL money.)
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I think there's a huge difference between an ad in a magazine and some product ad emailed FROM an address of an org I'm a member of. And this is a really big part of why this specific practice bothers me. If it comes from ACRL, ACRL is putting it's stamp on the product. And I don't think ACRL vetted the CCC whitepaper, I think they just took the money and sold our eyeballs. And in that case, the *email address* should *explicitly* indicate it's advertising and not ACRL sponsored communication
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Top of the email: "You're receiving this email because of your relationship with the Association of College and Research Libraries (ACRL). It is paid advertising and does not constitute an ACRL or ALA endorsement of the products represented. For customer support or to stop receiving future offers through ACRL channels, please scroll to the bottom for instructions."
- awd
Well, direct costs in that each ACRL committee has a small budget it can spend for its work. But, you know - staff! - it takes time to process reimbursements, confirm appointments are processed, keep membership rosters up to date, troubleshoot when people can't get access to ALAconnect, take responsibility when they want a listserv setup, listen to complaints that the volunteer chair...
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- Lisa Hinchliffe
Yeah, and if the members would rather that the money for all that overhead be raised though direct marketing rather than dues, why not, I guess. If organizations like ACRL have to exist, I'm sure they need the staff to keep doing all that stuff.
- Steele Lawman
I think that we'd all be fine if ACRL closed tomorrow. (Well, except for those paid staff.) And yes, of course my biases are showing! That's what they are for. :)
- Steele Lawman
Anyway. I'm obviously in A Mood and no longer adding anything to this conversation. Sorry 'bout that.
- Steele Lawman
I love calling you Ethel
- maʀtha
I just wish the acrl was a separate org from ala, but I know that the acrl would also probably cost more on its own, so says the ala.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
I get a lot out of ACRL, and can't believe how much gets done with such a small staff. There are my biases.
- kaijsa
I don't mind that much (and can opt out or filter into trash) - it was that combo of ACRL + ILL + best practices followed by CCC that was a shock. I obviously didn't read the fine print or notice that it was part of that advertising thing they do.
- barbara fister
Just came across this bc of the ILL list and this thing is messed up on so many different levels in terms of what its recommending as "best practices." I understand ACRL has to have ad revenue but I think they should have blocked this one because of misinformation....especially since I know some administrative people that I don't want reading this thinking that it's true
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I agree that ACRL should have some say about how their partners represent their products when it goes out under their name to their members. While we should be information-literate enough to figure it out, I have a feeling a lot of library employees are taking it as gospel. Also, it's kinda embarrassing to our organization to be shilling for these scoundrels.
- barbara fister
Yeah, I got some well-meaning forwards yesterday from folks saying "Have you seen ACRL's new guidelines for ILL?"
- lris
honestly, I went down that road for a minute when I first looked at the email, asking myself, "Why is ACRL sending me this thing promoting the CCC?" I figured out that it was an ad, but it was really odd, considering the emphasis ACRL puts on changing scholarly communication, etc.
- maʀtha
Even though I generally defended ACRL above, I do agree completely with barbara and the rest of you about this spam. I think I must have opted out of those emails a long time ago, so I didn't even know about the paid messages.
- kaijsa
It might be worth calling up a few of these places for leads: http://www.horseworlddata.com/library...
- Elizabeth
it would probably help if you knew if it was thoroughbred or harness racing. for thoroughbred, you could try http://www.racingmuseum.org/contact... for harness, http://www.harnessmuseum.com/index...
- Christa
This is a Job for SUPERPHONE. Seriously, may require talking to actual people. Cherchez the owner or trainer. Also, this: http://www.bloodhorse.com/
- barbara fister
Could library databases stop having such grandiose names? "OmniFile", or "Something Search Premier", or "OneFile Gold Complete" or "World of Knowledge of the Globe" or whatever.
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and could they all stop having "academic" in the name? LexisNexis Academic, Academic Search Complete, Academic Onefile. How are the students supposed to tell them apart?!
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
How about "The Little Database That Could"? "Academic Search Good Enough"? "Satisfice Search"?
- Catherine Pellegrino
"Satisfice Search", yes! Or "Just Enough Fulltext for 3am Database".
- Amandadon't
Oh! Or "The Paper's Due Tomorrow Database," or "For Undergrads Only Search Xtreme"
- Catherine Pellegrino
"Git Yer LitCrit Here!" or "All Theory, All The Time" would help my students.
- kaijsa
I'm going to recommend some of these for our branding if we ever get a discovery layer :) I like "Satisfice Search" and "Just Enough Fulltext for 3am Database" best, I think :)
- ~Courtney F
"The Database That Isn't JSTOR"
- MontglaneChess
SuperUltraMegaGinormousExtraAcademicDatabase+
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Google. ;)
- ellbeecee
"Get your articles here with the data sliced and diced the way you want it--you know, that marketing data with demographics by county, city, zipcode and by age, gender, sexual orientation, occupation, and brand preference of soda or other beverage."
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Mediocrity with Full Text
- JffKrlsn
the data #joe's student wants ... from the 19th century. Online. Via Google.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
MegaSearch JazzHands
- Meg V. Meg
Gamera Index Retrospective
- Meg V. Meg
It's all about jamming two words together with the cap in the middle. Maybe we need to brand ourselves as the LiBrary. What does that mean? It means whatever we want to mean!
- Larry Schwartz
This is what we need - https://twitter.com/mreidsm...
- barbara fister
Pop stars! You name ones aimed at undergrads after the youngest popstars: Justin Beiber Source Premier. Grad students, slightly older: Beyonce Academic. Pre-Tenure, a bit older: Courtney Love Abstracts. Full profs, classic rock city: Web of Kiss. (Please excuse my lack of knowledge of pop stars under 50...)
- John Dupuis
I love so much of this. The ideal would probably just be called "Articles." That's what the Apple app would be called, anyway.
- Steele Lawman
iJrnls
- RepoRat
iAcademic LiBrary GaMera Plus Premier Edition
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
Who here will supply me with soothing getting-prepped-for-a-conference thoughts?
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Your audience wants you to rock out, kick butt, and take names. :)
- RepoRat
you are there to share what you know with folks who are interested in what you have to say. you will rock it.
- jambina
You know at least as much as the audience (please grok that you know more about your topic than the aggregate of the audience) and they are attending to hear you and learn more about it. *strength*
- awd
Thanks, all!
- Rachel Walden
I always find this article very soothing when I read it shortly before giving a presentation. Especially the last paragraph. I take away from it: do your best. It will probably be really good. Sometimes it isn't: that's ok too. http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article...
- Heather Piwowar
"You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You."
- Yo. Shark Dog.
I'm reading responses to Rachel as applying equally for me (leaving tomorrow for Or/Wa Lib Assoc, three speeches over three days). Thanks, Rachel: Sure you'll do fine.
- Walt Crawford
It'll be dark, they'll be drunk.
- Steele Lawman
Thanks again, and Heather for the link.
- Rachel Walden
it will be fun.
- barbara fister
I once dropped the microphone battery pack down my skirt and had to fish it out again and no-one seemed to mind.
- Deborah Fitchett
that would not be fun, but it's good to know nobody minds.
- barbara fister
virtual high 5 to L. Quilter who took ST down a peg on Liblicense.
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Hint on ST?
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Which thread on http://listserv.crl.edu/wa...
- Yo. Shark Dog.
(Sandy Thatcher?)
- barbara fister
ding! that's the correct ST and here: http://listserv.crl.edu/wa...
- Christina Pikas
Bingo.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
L. Quilter has been v. awesome in my books since at least 1997. <3.
- Marianne
I said something mean about Thatcher then deleted it. Instead I'll say--is he ever useful, or is he just a full-time troll?
- Steele Lawman
I've known her online since 1995 or so, previous life and all that. Was just plain shocked to cross paths with her in library land! She's fantastic. (also: super thrilled to have no idea who ST is. do I need to?)
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
He said something nice about DPLA on Secret Agent Fister's latest IHE column. I was surprised. Unless it wasn't actually him!
- RepoRat
I find Thatcher confusing--I don't think he's a full-time troll, but I'm mostly not sure what he is or believes. One of the few people who talk about OA who I really can't pin down. (Almost like I used to be, perhaps?)
- Walt Crawford
On this particular list he has to comment multiple times on every single thread regardless of the relevance on his running the penn state press (and retiring some time ago). I'm sure he makes some good points but geez.
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
Sandy's one of several reasons I unsub'd from that list and one other. Dude just talks too much.
- Bill Hooker
He had a draft concept for OA books back in 1996 http://www.psupress.org/news..., but he seems to be so anti-OA today.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
library people, brainstorming on library re-organization. do you have a structure/framework that you feel works well? If so, can you point me to an org chart or other info?
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i find the crickets on this post most telling. ;)
- holly #ravingfangirl
I think it's hard to know what structure might be a "works well" structure without more information. My structure seems to work well, but I don't know how similar or different it is from your staff size and operations.
- lris
We are also pending a reorg discussion here; I collected a bunch of org charts; i cant say how well they work, but theyre interesting to see. Ill see fi I can add you to the dropbox folder - DM me your addy
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
We have about 15 librarians and 10 non-librarian staff, plus about 80 student workers, all divided into 5 departments, each with a department head. Department heads report to the director.
- lris
I don't think ours works especially well, but I also don't know what would work better. Departments mean less and less as the boundaries between functional areas break down. We're grappling with maybe reorganizing, too, so I'm paying attention to what everybody suggests.
- kaijsa
i didn't want to limit it because, well, i don't want to limit it. :) we're totally at the pie-in-the-sky point, so I just want to see what others are doing. i'd love to see those, warmaiden. will be in touch.
- holly #ravingfangirl
Have you read this piece on In the Library With the Lead Pipe about organizations and leadership? It is definitely pie-in-the-sky, but if that is where you're at, maybe it will be helpful. http://www.inthelibrarywiththe...
- Freeda B.
Here's our dream org chart style: http://lis.luther.edu/about.... We have three teams, with tons of cross training (and opportunities for more), a total of 18 full-time staff and around between 25 and student workers.
- Kathy
Rumor is that at Double Agent Fister's library the org chart is a blank white sheet of paper.
- Steele Lawman
Actually, our first draft of it (during a meeting with admin) was called "the crude pie chart." The final version was called "the crude pie chart on drugs." I love it, of course. It works for us, but that may be because it's a good fit for our institutional culture. https://gustavus.edu/library...
- barbara fister
Kathy, yours is really interesting. We don't have to wrestle with the dual IT / library identity.
- barbara fister
We are fortunate to have a automation specialist and a librarian with a 2nd masters in computer science. Makes it both easier and more difficult with working with University IT folks. (Oh, and to be clear, I'm not at Luther. We just covet their org chart.)
- Kathy
Too high level for me this discussion, but for me I think we often struggle between the issue of roles been too specialist/niche (in past) with the obvious disadvantages of silos vs been jack of all trades, until no one is really top flight at anything (right now apparently according to some people). My not so sophisticated thinking right now is we need a mix of generalists (I am one) and some extreme specialists. The exact mix I have no idea.
- aarontay
Barbara - we have your same org chart - except we also have a library director. We are getting push-back about peer-governance because it is a serious time commitment. How do you make it work? I feel this overwhelming need to drive up, buy you lunch, and listen to all your wisdom.
- Jen
We've got both library functions and academic support functions. (Incidentally: having seen an org where the library was subsumed into "learning resources" and an org where these were subsumed into the library, the latter works way better. At least from this librarian's pov...) So our groups are now a) Access - includes circulation and library IT; b) Content - acquisitions, cataloguing,...
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- Deborah Fitchett
thanks for the responses, everyone!
- holly #ravingfangirl
Ours works best when we don't have a lot of administration bullshit going on. That can be draining. But the key to it is involving everyone in both the decision-making and the work. Everyone needs to read and understand the budget. Everyone needs to participate in organizational change. People need to own it and be willing to step up. The good thing is that it gives everyone leadership...
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- barbara fister
Oh, and yes, it is a time commitment. But we get stuff done. Thinking back, it's no more of a time commitment than when we had a traditional structure with a director. It's not as if every decision has to be negotiated with the whole group. We have individual / small group / larger group / all staff issues. Very few are all staff.
- barbara fister
Deborah, yours is a fascinating mix. Especially when it's functions not subject areas. Hmmm. Oh, and Kathy - sorry for moving you to Luther ;)
- barbara fister
My last job had a great organizational structure. There were 6 librarians who all reported directly to the director, and non-librarian staff/student workers reported to the librarians. Two librarians in research services, one research services/access services, one collection management, one systems/metadata, and one archivist. It wasn't hierarchical and we all worked together very well. Small staff FTW!
- Laura Krier
We do that, but without a director. And without reporting. It's unusual, but works.
- barbara fister
Barbara, does your chair step down from their regular responsibilities while they are serving as chair? Or is it a percentage that he.she gets relieved to take on chair duties?
- Jen
Via the ALA Think Tank thing on Facebook: 1. Google "OCLC" or click this: https://www.google.com/search... 2. Look at the logo on the right and read the text. 3. Marvel at the Internet.
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LULZ.
- RepoRat
Total lol. Sharing with colleagues!
- kaijsa
Took me a moment, and then...*gasp*
- Catherine Pellegrino
ha!
- Marie
heheheheheheheh
- lris
uh, wow. in honor of the launch of the DPLA?
- barbara fister
Go Go Librarything :)
- awd
High-larious!
- Stephen le Francoeur
so is there a way we could logobomb the ACS?
- RepoRat
Man. I think I missed this yesterday. Nothing seems to be weird today.
- Laura Krier
Dammit, I *knew* I should have taken a screenshot.
- Catherine Pellegrino
i know i saw a screenshot somewhere. now where was it?
- holly #ravingfangirl
Here ya go. http://travelinlibrarian.info/wp-cont...
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
Thankee! And that just pointed me to another awesome image/post that I'm about to repost here.
- Catherine Pellegrino
It's gone now. SADDNESS.
- Andy
It's still the 3rd hit on images. Maybe if you make sure you click on it, Google will sense it's popularity and bring it back.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
Cautionary tale for libraryland: boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/19/why-innovate-or-die-is-a-lie/?hp
whole lotta talk, no evidence in that editorial.
- RepoRat
Oh my god, libraries need more trampolines. HOW FUN WOULD THAT BE.
- Meg V. Meg
Seems like common sense. Innovation doesn't mean a thing if you can't produce something that people want.
- Steele Lawman
We need to innovate all the articles calling for libraries to innovate. #innovateception
- Andy
Eviscerate some of the articles calling for innovation? Sure, sounds good Andy.
- Steele Lawman
I mentioned to the dean that our library could have used a trampoline room in the renovated lib. THAT would have been cool.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
I once had a conversation with a couple of people (char booth was one of them) and we somehow ended up adding "or die" to the end of many of our sentences.
- barbara fister
I can totally picture that conversation, and am jealous that I didn't get to be a part of it. :)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Innovate in bed or die?
- Steele Lawman
Innovate in bed or die with ducks? (Philosopher adds "in bed with ducks" to fortune cookies)
- Hedgehog
Maybe that's our problem. People keep thinking they reinvented the wheel when it comes to bed manuevers when everything really has been done before.
- Andy
What is the thing at your job that you are best at and proudest of?
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I'm usually fearless about trying new things; technology, services, programs, etc. The worst that can happen is failure, but there is always a lesson in that too.
- Running Slow
I guess... doing stuff that's a bit different. And acting on equal terms with academics.
- Pete #TeamMonique
The varied ways my students are using things I taught them to change the world and the profession for the better.
- RepoRat
I am exceptionally good at talking to--or rather listening to--patrons with mental health problems. Your delusional, your anxious, your paranoid--bring them to me, give me some time, and we won't have to call the cops.
- laura x
Helping a wide array of people learn a wide array of things.
- Marianne
Running classes that are more spontaneous and conversational rather than overly-scripted.
- Steele Lawman
Getting things done.
- Surprisingly Monstrous
I am really good at translating concepts into, and out of, the language of science/technology/computers. So I love to do research consultations about, like, the polar equations of Gothic cathedral windows, or analog methods of systematically capturing human movement, when people are like, "You are the first person who understands what I'm talking about, and does not think I am crazy."
- Meg V. Meg
I'm really good at being a liaison from my library to departments and groups on campus where no conversations are happening at all (but should be), especially making that essential first attempt at outreach.
- Lily
I'm really good at getting the babies to laugh
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
That I am respected and my projects and ideas are given the green light more often than not.
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Being a change agent and helping staff push the envelope on service to children.
- Marge LW
Giving people confidence.
- Andy
Reference. Not just finding stuff, but connecting with patrons on an individual basis.
- maʀtha
Conceptualizing new spaces, managing projects, and wearing heels.
- Kathy
I like our anarchist organizational style. I'm good at anarchy and mutual aid.
- barbara fister
I...am really not sure. I'm good at lots of things, but best at? I have no idea. I'll have to think about this.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Figuring out doable solutions to problems and talking people into mascot costumes.
- Heather
Connecting and working with people who don't seem to know all of the resources available to them and making them comfortable in using them.
- Derrick
product and process design for transportation vertical :)-
- Peter Dawson
Been informed about what the rest of the library world is doing and bringing in new stuff which succeeds more often than not. I am particularly proud of the chat reference service, I know other libraries has had it for a decade but still proud of managing to get it adopted widely here and the compliments it brings in daily.
- aarontay
Containing the damage from intra-staff blood feuds.
- Mark Kille
I try really hard to support my colleagues, especially newer folks, and I think/hope they find it beneficial. I'm a good project manager, too.
- Rachel Walden
I put together meaningful worship services and preach good sermons (usually).
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Hard to say. I *am* pretty awesome.
- Chris Z.
translating between arcane library jargon and human patron language (i.e., LCSH to "tags")
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
organizing internal documentation and working with vendors. They drive everyone else crazy, but I've come to find a certain amount of zen with them all (random hair-tearing events aside).
- MontglaneChess
Being a partner with staff to provide efficient and effective solutions, and accomplish goals. Other than that... knowing how to install an operating system onto any kind of computer?
- Julian
Pushing information to faculty who had no idea that the information existed, or that anyone cared that it existed.
- Larry Schwartz
Building relationships with faculty; seeing across library silos to where we can make improvements in services or communications
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Designing assessments that prepare students for the real world AND teach them how to think critically and express themselves in academic discourse AND have very clear expectations AND are easy to submit and to mark.
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
Wow. I want to do all of this ^^^^
- maʀtha
For private colleges/universities that do an annual report, has anyone had library admin hesitant to put one together or be disinclined to post it on the library website simply because they were a private institution? Or the greater question might be, what arguments have you heard against creating an annual report?
Ours is online - and we're private. What harm could it cause? We don't exist for our own selves, we're there for our community. I don't know if anyone actually reads it, mind, but I think transparency is important.
- barbara fister
(It might help that we have no library administration...)
- barbara fister
Mpow's annual report has never been online. Idk why
- Christina Pikas
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Right. I kind of see them as a vote for transparency, good PR, etc in that vein. Our admin likes to fly under the radar as much as possible, so I've been trying to picture what sort of 'waves' an annual report *might* have the possibility of causing? But they're mostly a good news-bearing type thing, so I was drawing a blank. Trying to prepare a response against the whole "we don't want to be noticed" argument I guess. If I propose making one, I want to have my bases covered.
- MontglaneChess
Happiest birthday to our own beloved Marianne!
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happy birthday!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Happiest of birthdays indeed; hope it's a great one Marianne!
- Galadriel C.
Happy birthday to one of my favorite people. May your coming year be all you need it to be.
- lris
Many happy returns, Marianne! Be sure to take a break today (or many breaks)!
- Lily
HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDTH THUTHDA BTHUTHDY, my friend-who-I've-never-met!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Happy birthday!
- Steele Lawman
Happy Birthday!
- Chelle Chelle Ro Ro
Happy birthday!!! (here's some bonus exclamation marks: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
- Stephen le Francoeur
happy happy happy to you!
- barbara fister
Happy Birthday!
- MoTO #TeamMonique
Happy b-day!
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Merry birthday!
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
Happy birthday!
- Katy S
Thanks all. I've actually taken the *whole* day off, so I just rolled out of bed. Birthdays are important! :)
- Marianne
Happy birthday!
- Meg V. Meg
Oh, noes! I almost missed it. Happy happy happy birthday
- Megan loves summer
Thanks, Meg, Megan, miscellaneous likers.
- Marianne
Question about eresource authentication at your library. Is it true at your workplace, all you need to do is to login to the campus wifi and you straight away have access to say sciencedirect.com without using say ezproxy? And for off campus you either use ezproxy or vpn? Getting lots of comments in survey that they want something like this.
Typically along the lines of "the university i was exchange at...." or "I have affiliation with another university library..." etc..
- aarontay
I believe that we require ezproxy login for wireless access, on- or off-campus (though I don't think that's a technological constraint, just how we've chosen to handle it, because guests can access our wifi). And actually, now that we have single sign-on, if someone off-campus is logged into their email, then usually they'll be authenticated for library stuff. If they're not, then they can ezproxy.
- Meg V. Meg
Just to confirm about your single sign on. Say I sign on to my campus email offcampus say via exchange web, then somehow it means I can access sciencedirect.com without the proxy?
- aarontay
On campus, you're authenticated. Off campus, ezproxy.
- lris
What Iris said. (And what DJF and ellbeecee say below, too)
- Jenica
What Iris said.
- Catherine Pellegrino
What Iris said. We provide guest access to anybody who comes into the library, since our licences allow anybody physically on campus to use the material.
- DJF
What Iris said.
- maʀtha
what Iris said. The exception to the off-campus is if you're connected through the vpn, which gives you an on campus IP address. Quite honestly, that's more trouble than it's worth for library stuff when ezproxy works well.
- ellbeecee
Re: single sign-on, you still have to start from a library or university...uh...portal/interface(?) but then you don't have to login to ezproxy (if you're logged into your email or CMS). Like, you can't go to sciencedirect.com and have it know who you are, but you don't have to type in the same login info twice, if you've already logged in otherwise (in the same browser, obv) and navigate to ScienceDirect from a library/university page.
- Meg V. Meg
Thanks Megs. It's the go direct to Sciencedirect.com that is borthering people. within a browser sessions, we dont have to login twice.
- aarontay
As I understand it, it's a matter of the vendor having both your campus IP range and your proxy server IP range. If they have both, you can go direct on campus and get in, if they only have your proxy IPs everyone has to go through the proxied links, on or off campus. Is that what you mean?
- Rebecca Hedreen
Yeah, we a) tell vendors the IP range to enable, which means anyone on campus gets direct access without signing in; and b) enable the databases through ezproxy, which means that anyone authenticating through ezproxy looks to the database as if they're in the enabled IP range. (We do authentication to ezproxy by LDAP and/or something to do with Voyager which I'm still getting my head around.)
- Deborah Fitchett
Yep, we also have auto-authentication to both our uni and our guest wifi.
- kaijsa
Yes, wifi provides unproxied access for us. Vendors have the IP addresses.
- JffKrlsn
Exactly Rebecca, we doing the later with vendors having only the proxy ip range. People have been clamouring for the campus ip range to work, the only problem is not everyone who can get that ip address are supposed to use our eresources. So a visitor may have been granted a university network account to access wifi, login to campus pcs etc but they aren't supposed to use eresources...
- aarontay
Surely your license allows for walk-in users? Most do, at least for US contracts. Your visitors would be covered with that. We don't allow ours proxy access because that means they could get in remotely, which means they're not "walk-in" users.
- Royce's favorite Anna
Yes the "Walk-in" argument, I do know that once a user actually pulled out Jstor's terms of use to show which does indeed allow walk-ins. I am not sure if there is execessive caution at work here that we don't allow, or if indeed licenses are much more strict because my country is different due to the small size of the country.
- aarontay
Our contracts in the UK usually explicitly excluded walk-ins. It's why Eduroam was so important, I think . ETA: because wifi was locked down, so getting internet while on other universities was through Eduroam.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
You can also create groups in Ezproxy, so that Group A gets all the resources, Group B only gets some of the resources. You can either specify a list of usernames for a given group, or have it depend on information from LDAP. (This is part of the stuff I'm currently getting my head around so we can set up alumni to have certain access.)
- Deborah Fitchett
Yeah but's that's ezproxy. Increasingly people just google, and drop into sciencedirect or whatnot. There are tricks of course to handle this, but better is just authenticate based on campus ip. Jaclyn, does it mean for you, users on campus need to use a proxy? Sidenote for eduroam we support it too here.
- aarontay
One tidbit from the Ithaka faculty survey for 2012 - 90 percent of faculty search for content on the open web when they discover an article that isn't full text in library databases, while 80 percent turn to ILL. Last night I was helping a student and was amazed that we found every JSTOR article she was looking for posted to some .edu site (not by the author). Libraries are the thumb publishers are jamming in the dike while it's crumbling.
- barbara fister
you totally need to use that line in something for IHE or ElJay, Barbara.
- RepoRat
jhu is getting ready to offer "eduroam" so visiting scholars can log in to the wifi with their own institution's authentication... i'm a bit fuzzy on this but I think they'll still be coming from JHU's IP range, so they'll have access to our licenses (and not their home institution's)
- Christina Pikas
Christina hmm I have to check with our Computer Centre about the ip range eduroam grants, if true that's yet another issue to consider if we grant access via campus ip range.
- aarontay
The number of people that use our bookmarklet that adds the proxy is about 1/3 as much as Summon the default search box. That's a stunning figure if you realise 1) bookmarklets are hardly main-stream 2) We teach it a lot but it's pretty well hidden on our site so you can't just stumble upon it, so there's a lot of word of mouth which I can see based on scans on twitter etc 3) This...
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- aarontay
How do you capture/measure usage of the bookmarket?
- Deborah Fitchett
Essentially you make the bookmarklet pull the script from a file on your server. Then you can see how often it is used. You can get fancy and add google analytics etc. A side benefit is that you can change the script without making people bookmark it again say if you changed the proxy URL to include https or what not. I blogged about it http://musingsaboutlibrariansh...
- aarontay
Ah, neat, thanks!
- Deborah Fitchett
I’m charged with revising our criteria for allocating travel funding. To date, MPOW has had enough money to cover travel costs for all professional staff – pretty much no request gets denied. Support staff travel has been well-funded, too. This is obviously unsustainable and we need to implement a new system for determining what gets funded...
How does your library determine which travel requests get funded? Is a distinction made between professional staff travel and support staff travel? Also, how does your library ensure that the travel actually benefits the library and the overall goals of the organization (rather than the personal interests of the individual)? Does the librarian have to present to colleagues upon their return? Write a report?
- Library Fool
Where I currently am, it's X amount for everybody every two years, and outside that you're on your own. If I travel specifically for SLIS, of course (booth-babing at a conference or whatever), they cover that (and I believe it's a separate budget). At MfPOW, the rule was one non-outrageous conference per year, and after that, preference given to people presenting until the money runs out.
- RepoRat
Faculty (which we are) get funding through the provost's office - X for attending a conference, X*2 for presenting and X*2+a little more for international travel. X can be rolled over so it can almost cover actual costs. Having relatives with couches in strategic cities is a bonus!
- barbara fister
For non-faculty staff, we have a slightly smaller X operating under pretty much the same rules, only we're a bit more generous in that it can be for non-travel-related professional development (a course, books, try us).
- barbara fister
It's not possibly to budget predictably for these expenses, btw. We're over and under in some kind of unpredictable sine wave.
- barbara fister
Also, necessary training is funded separately (e.g. RDA cataloging webinars, user group meetings for our catalog)
- barbara fister
Faculty get x amount per year we can use however--conference, hotel, etc. There is some extra money you can request if you're presenting or some such after you've gone through your funds. If they're sending you to something --e.g. I got sent to AAAS, they pay for everything. Not sure how it's handled for staff.
- Hedgehog
we used to get $1200/per year per faculty librarian. We've added people but not $$, so i'm not sure what the exact figure is now. Once that's gone, you can hope someone else didn't use all of theirs and you get some extra, but no promises. I blow through mine every year. Everything over that is out of my pocket.
- ~Courtney F
All of our faculty get a set stipend, which is pretty generous but varies a bit depending on budgets. We also periodically get offers like if you get a paper or panel accepted at ACRL, you get extra funding. Staff make requests for funding and their supervisor and the AUL say yes or no based on whether it relates to the person's position or benefits the libraries in another way. When...
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- kaijsa
I don't like to let on to colleagues in other colleges here what we get because, except for the College of Education, they all get like $300 if they're presenting. Our Dean carves out money from the operations budget because she says she can't expect us to present and publish if she doesn't support travel to conferences and for research.
- kaijsa
Like kaijsa's dean, that's my position: I give everyone money from the operating budget because travel matters. A fixed amount per librarian, a larger fixed amount per untenured librarian, and a smaller fixed amount per staff member -- so set because while travel and professional development is important for everyone, it's an actual requirement for reappointment for the untenured, and i...
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- Jenica
Our dean carves out money from our ops budget or one of our special accounts - we get up to $1000 for one conference, up to $1500 total if we go to 2 conferences (but for the $1500, we have to be presenting at at least one of them). Our university also has some very generous faculty Development Grant programs that are open to applications and usually toss between $500 and $2500 at us, depending on their funding for the year and the proposal. We're very well funded.
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
We have a committee for library faculty and a committee for non-faculty staff who allocate travel funds from separate pools. For faculty, there's a call for requests at the beginning of each academic year, then allocations are determined based on the number of people and requests. You have to make all your requests by the deadline to draw from this pool for any particular year. It tends to average around $1500/year/person. There are other options if you're presenting or representing the library.
- Grumpator
For staff, I'm pretty sure they just request when they want to go to something. They definitely don't get as generous an allocation - I think it's around $500. I know the justification is that it's not a requirement for them to keep their jobs (as it is w/faculty who want to get promotion and/or tenure). Also-there is no reporting out requirement for either, though it is informally encouraged.
- Grumpator
We (any staff) submit a request which may or may not be approved; higher chances if it was in your professional development plan, lower chances if someone else is going or it's further than Australia. (Some budget days, even going out of town is a big ask.) There's a definite reporting-back requirement. I generally liveblog and then as my report-back submit the link to the appropriate...
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- Deborah Fitchett
I should have mentioned that it's an expectation that we post travel reports to our intranet, but I don't know that anybody's truly monitoring this. We have a culture of reading one another's reports, so jsut about everybody does it all the time.
- kaijsa
JoVE Update: 1. The JoVE rep is contacting UConn faculty falsely saying that I am conducting an evaluation of JoVE and that faculty feedback is needed to help complete this evaluation. The rep names me as the faculty member's librarian even though such correspondence typically (but not always) occurs between faculty and subject librarians.
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2. If UConn were to subscribe to all of JoVE for more than $25,000 per year, JoVE will *not* waive researcher publication fees ($2,400 for subscription accessible publications or $4,200 for an open access publication).
- Galadriel C.
Wow. I just...what the hell is going on with them, that their sales reps behave this way?
- Kirsten
wtf?
- Sir Shuping is just sir
seconding that WTF. I'm so glad they're completely out of our price range.
- Catherine Pellegrino
whoa. NO.
- Jenica
jove has a history of some really pushy salesmen lemme see if I can dig up a link- there was one really obnoxious example but i think that particular salesman got canned.
- Christina Pikas
It should be noted that the above e-mail was sent to the faculty *before* I received and began "evaluating" JoVE's most recent quote.
- Galadriel C.
Further correspondence with JoVE --- Me: "Additionally, please know that I completely understand that JoVE relies on subscription revenue and that acquiring new subscriptions is integral to your work. As such I know that it is part of JoVE’s practice to contact faculty and ask them to recommend JoVE to their institutions library; I received a message from a faculty member who had been...
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- Galadriel C.
JoVE: "In regards to our contact with the faculty, we reach out to them because we know the value of their feedback in the evaluation process and want to help by answering any questions or gaining that feedback. Thank you for sharing that feedback on this manner not carrying as much weight with you - that is helpful information. What would be the most useful to you when evaluating a new resource? How am I able to help you with this evaluation process?"
- Galadriel C.
Creeps.
- RepoRat
oh, i guess you've seen it then: http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2012...
- Christina Pikas
In self-defense, I suggest you make your chain of command aware of this little contretemps. Wouldn't put it past JoVE to try to smear you.
- RepoRat
Me: "As for feedback from faculty, yes we do value their feedback greatly when considering resources that will best support their teaching and research. However, when this feedback is solicited from JoVE under the false pretenses that I am actively conducting an evaluation of JoVE and actively seeking feedback from faculty (see attached), then we cannot consider this legitimate. "
- Galadriel C.
@Repo - Thank you and done! I sent a message to my supervisor and the Vice Provost of Libraries yesterday after I received the forwarded e-mail from a faculty that included JoVE's e-mail illustrated above.
- Galadriel C.
*joins the Galadriel C fan club*
- Marie
"Your librarian is looking for feedback from you. She just doesn't know it. To rectify that situation, we are enlisting you as our unpaid sales team. Thanks, Prof!"
- barbara fister
JoVE isn't the only one to do this. I have several vendors who contact my business faculty without asking/informing me. Then I get the joyful task of telling them that they don't have any money to spend on the fabulous product they were just shown.
- ~Courtney F
Oh, it doesn't surprise me when vendors do that. It's the part where JoVE told the faculty that a trial was underway, which was *cough* not entirely accurate, that is the problem.
- DJF
I have good business relationships with many vendors who make a point of *not* contacting faculty though I think our business librarian's experience may by similar to Courtney's with certain venders. JoVE is just an excellent example of how not to endear libraries to your product.
- Galadriel C.
It's frightening the number of emails I get from JoVE. I got one today, in fact. They also tend to call very regularly. Although I don't recall the sneak around behind my back thing before. Maybe I should watch for that one and especially warn our life science librarians.
- John Dupuis
What subject area is it? I mean, I know I'm a CHMINF-L fangirl, but if I were you, I'd post it there (or I'm happy to do so), because that's where they got in trouble last time (and their rep actually responded), and people will remember.
- Meg V. Meg
It makes me mad when they try to make the faculty end-run on things, but their false statements really pushes this over the edge for me. I mean, they could expect a response like, "We make it a policy not to do business with vendors we catch lying to faculty."
- Rachel Walden
JoVE's subject areas include biology, medicine, and chemistry. I'm going to work with subject librarians to 1. post to subject-specific lists that I'm not on and 2. warn faculty in their subject areas. However, if anyone here wants to post on lists of their choice about this, please do so!
- Galadriel C.
I told my head of CollDev about this in a meeting this morning--she mentioned that they have a library advisory board due to last round of kerfluffles. Any idea who sits on that where we might strategically forward this email?
- Hedgehog
Excellent idea Hedgehog - Here's the roster of advisory board members: http://www.jove.com/about.... I recognize names, but do not know anyone personally; perhaps I will send a note to all of them.
- Galadriel C.
Silver Lining: Just received a note from a faculty member that JoVE contacted - "At least, I’m glad that I had an opportunity to communicate with you and learned some about the library system from you (and an example of bad sales tactics). Thank you very much for your time and warm and thoughtful responses."
- Galadriel C.
win!
- maʀtha
also, @JoVE: EWWW!
- maʀtha
Galadriel, have you talked to Nicholas about this? I hear him in my head saying "by JoVE!" (which you've probably heard already, but still: heh)
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Galadriel: right, I wasn't sure if they were pushing a particular product, or the whole suite. Christina: not canned.
- Meg V. Meg
Meg: Ah, got it! From what I can tell, they are contacting faculty members with links to specific videos/articles. However, the quote that they sent me shows the cost for everything along with breakdowns for each section as a stand alone (general, neuroscience, immunology and infection, clinical and translation medicine, bioengineering, applied physics, chemistry).
- Galadriel C.
I would contact the advisory board with concerns. My take on JoVE is that they don't seem to understand the academic library political arena very well, and are thinking more like a business start-up, where I'm sure the more aggressive tactics would be OK.
- Elizabeth Brown
Looks like JoVE will be an exhibitor at the Medical Library Association meeting in a couple of weeks.
- Rachel Walden
ACRL post-conference survey asks, "Using your best estimate, when do you plan to retire?" Heh.
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MY MUMMIFIED REMAINS WILL SIT BEHIND THE REFERENCE DESK FOREVER.
- RepoRat
Every library needs its Jeremy Benthem. Oh wait - we don't. Never mind.
- barbara fister
I retire daily? ;)
- awd
Trying to get a handle on the whole retirement crisis we have heard so much about.
- Steele Lawman
The crisis is that we live in a society in which people can't retire.
- kaijsa
And when they finally retire, they aren't replaced because of budget cuts.
- Royce's favorite Anna
Exactly what Ethel said. And also DJF and kaijsa and Anna.
- Catherine Pellegrino
And here's a clue for when you do retire, having saved like crazy: Ben Bernanke sez you're not SUPPOSED to save, so no interest on those CDs. We're all gamblers, by fiat of the Feds.
- Walt Crawford
Um, tomorrow? Oh, wait, that's just wishful thinking. I'd love to officially retire at 55 (21 years from now), and have a second career writing.
- Laura Krier
Just wondering, is this special issue on Open Access Open Access? http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...
They avoided the issue by making it a free sample issue. I know because I got in a swizz with an author of a paper saying it's very bad that grad students have to make their dissertations open access.
- barbara fister
Hmmm. I don't think I would consider a free sample issue the same thing as OA, but whatever.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Nor would I.
- barbara fister
This would make a good Tumblr, if it doesn't already exist.
- Meg V. Meg
Unsurprisingly, the lead essay, "Commentary on Open Access from the JAL Editors" is a horrorshow of non-sequiturs and ad-hoccery. More surprisingly, it's terribly edited, with missing words, repetitive phrasing, etc. Way to add value, Elsevier!
- Steele Lawman
A tumblr on the horrible and strange things that Elsevier does?
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Apparently every January issue is free: Who knew? The reviews of Suber's book and mine are both fair, honest and favorable reviews (as I'd expect from JAL reviewers). That editorial, though...geez. (Otherwise, I've already seen a couple of the essays, and will read the rest. But not right now.)
- Walt Crawford
For that year.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
A tumblr on newly published articles on the topic of OA that aren't actually OA.
- Meg V. Meg
there's a mendeley group on non oa, oa... i think?
- Christina Pikas
which has it's own irony now
- Christina Pikas
Secret Agent Fister got in a swizz and I missed it? Where was the said swizz?
- RepoRat
I add stuff to http://www.mendeley.com/groups...
- Yo. Shark Dog.
It was on WPA-L. I pop in now and then when I should be working. A grad student asked about the impact of having his dissertation online and what the Proquest check off was about. This guy went into a multi-message thing about how evil ETDs are. He was all You don't make YOUR books free, DO you, and I offered to send him one if he'd send me his paper. He pointed me to a copy he posted himself which, I pointed out, he was not authorized to post online. No comment from him about that.
- barbara fister
sigh. bet you anything you like the grad student was channeling his advisor or some other faculty member he looks up to.
- RepoRat
kind of put out about RefWorks Flow... clearly they've identified a bunch of features lacking in RefWorks, but instead of adding/fixing, they want us to buy something different... hrumph. I only made it half way through this morning's webinar.
I wonder which we'll end up with
- Hedgehog
Tangentially: after MfPOW dropped RefWorks a year ago, it was finally removed from the home page today. Yep.
- RepoRat
Oh my. We dropped RefWorks and haven't had any issues - Zotero works just fine, thank you.
- barbara fister
we would have to buy it? ahahahahahahahahahahhhhaaa!
- maʀtha
We discovered yesterday that our very large public library system does not own a single copy of The Well of Loneliness. This surprises me. Not the best book ever, but such an important book.
Response from library: "The book was published in 1928. It is likely that HCL owned it at one time and that with time the last copy was stolen or removed from the collection because of a deteriorated condition. Not all such books are replaced. It can be easily requested via interlibrary loan."
- maʀtha
We don't own one either. I was actually thinking about it just the other day, in part because I was weeding some other classics, and wondering about whether it has been superseded by other, newer books and is therefore important mostly in a historic sense or if it would still be something people would want to read and discover, minus the ILL step.
- laura x
My local public library has a copy, but under "you might also like..." their catalog recommends Tropic of Cancer.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Hmm. My local library doesn't either--but Link+ shows 21 editions (not clear how many copies) held somewhere in the admittedly very large direct-borrowing-request system.
- Walt Crawford
I know all about weeding and everything, but I still think they should own a copy. I could well be wrong, of course. \
- maʀtha
hmm, we don't have it either.
- holly #ravingfangirl
I wonder about books that important but not hot / current / heavy circulation in public libraries. I think it would be not that easy to find and read the nerdy stuff I gobbled when young. Now I mostly read trash :)
- barbara fister
I discovered Jane Austen right before that summer in the '90s that all the Austen movies came out. The first time I went to the library, there was an entire shelf of Austen from which to choose, so I took one. Three weeks later when I went back to get another one, the shelf was completely empty. Public libraries need to carry the good stuff.
- DJF
Also, note the part about the 1928 publication date, I find it a bit odd. If it were circing, that pub date wouldn't matter, right?
- maʀtha
St. Paul Public, btw, does own one copy
- maʀtha
Do the residents of the twin cities get reciprocal borrowing privileges on their respective other sides of the river
- DJF
yes, actually, for the whole state, but few people know this
- maʀtha
WorldCat tells me that none of the three local public library systems have a copy, but pretty much every academic has one.
- Royce's favorite Anna
David Mark- Original Skin (DS Aector McAvoy 2) - http://ravencrimereads.wordpress.com/2013...
oh, I just got a copy of this (closes eyes tightly)
- barbara fister
Just finished my schtick about the library at adjunct faculty orientation. I turned on the lights, started asking them questions, and made bad jokes. They might have been nodding off before, but they aren't now!
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Well done!
- RepoRat
I'm much more awake now also, I have to say
- maʀtha
these poor people are stuck here for 3 hours and everyone is just talk talk talking at them
- maʀtha
I'm ready to redesign orientation as a musical
- maʀtha
that would be awesome.
- Marianne
Excellent. I love it when a plan comes together. Mega-kudos for engaging your audience!
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Not so much with the planning, more about looking people in the eye and having a conversation, and a little fun :)
- maʀtha
I can just see it - 3 hours in the dark with power point slides? You are the hero. (Also, terrible faculty development design; faculty prefer to do the talking whenever possible.)
- barbara fister
...I dunno, turnabout seems like it ought to be fair play in this situation. (Just kidding: bad pedagogy is bad pedagogy, no matter whose butts are in the seats.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Martha is the best.
- laura x
@Catherine and Barbara: exactly! WTF?
- maʀtha
We used to have a good new fac orientation that had the attendees rotating between three locations in the library and doing more discussion and meeting people. Now they compressed it into a half day and it's just a series of 10-15 minute presentations and I think it sucks. Good for you for livening it up!
- kaijsa
I wish I could get the folks who schedule adjunct orientation to remember to invite me more than 15 minutes before it starts. *sigh*
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Your people need an intervention. Sheesh.
- barbara fister
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O.O Oh-kay.
- Running Slow
eep.
- RepoRat
oh. my. lord.
- barbara fister
392.1 Customs of birth, puberty, majority. 392.5 Wedding and marriage customs.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
oh dear.
- Christina Pikas
*nods head* *sighs* *screams DEWWWWWWWWEY while shaking fist towards the earth*
- Chris Z.
To hear some women talk about their marriages...
- Steele Lawman
Happy birthday to the LIS Host/LIS News empire builder, Blake Carver!
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I for one congratulate our WordPress overlord!
- RepoRat
Happy Birthday, Blake!!
- WebGoddess
happy birthday blake!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Happy birthday, good sir!
- Derrick
Happy birthday!
- Pete #TeamMonique
May your Wordpress be always upgraded, Blake.
- barbara fister
Happy B'day, and you'll be glad to know I changed my admin name to Admin and the password to Password, just as you instructed. "1234" was getting old.
- Walt Crawford
Happy Birthday Blake!
- Hedgehog
Happy birthday!
- Galadriel C.
Happy birthday! Let's all celebrate by updating our Wordpress plugins!
- Andy
Happy birthday!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Woo! I'm going to change my passwords in your honor today.
- lris
I was about to pay you, but I'm afraid it might entail asking for my password. So I'm going to wait and do that another day. Instead, I shall just wish you the happiest of birthdays!
- laura x
Happy birthday, Blake!
- Katie
Happiest birthday!
- maʀtha
Happy birthday, Blake! (Yes, I updated my Wordpress. Just for you.)
- Betsy #TeamMonique
Blake will be glad to know that thanks to many, many e-mails we (i) have the latest install and (ii) no longer have an 'admin' username
- Pete #TeamMonique
Happy birthday, Blake!
- Meg V. Meg
Time for Blake's annual update. Happy birthday!
- Steele Lawman
I keep blanking on the name for ... you know in a corporate research environment when librarians would put together a weekly or monthly document with summaries of the latest articles in a field ... what the heck did they call that?
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synthesis?
- kendrak
Annotated bibliographies?
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
I remember a phrase from the late Jurassic period - selective dissemination of information.
- barbara fister
I get emails like that labeled as digests. Dunno.
- kaijsa
SDI sounds right, although current awareness could be another term.
- Walt Crawford
Current awareness?
- Catherine Pellegrino
from iPod
Yeah, SDI and current awareness and alerts are kind of ringing a bell. Just musing on the new hot trend of "curation" and thinking about the old school ways we used to do that.
- Laura Norvig
Journal club?
- Jen
I guess that's not library-related though
- Jen
Lolling at "used to". Some of my colleagues still do it that way and lib management encourages it. Although these days it only should include "grey" reports and the like not covered by other alert services. My first big project was to set up institution wide internal blog for the purpose. Hardly anyone switched from weekly emails to posting so it's dead. Just not put out of its misery. Moved on.
- suelibrarian
For me, Twitter is a constant font of current awareness / SDI / curation.
- barbara fister
Environmental Scanning is what I heard in library school.....
- ~Courtney F
Environmental scan, state of the practice, research synthesis, lit review... so many names for very similar things. Really depends on who's asking for it. (I'm working with a group trying to define what a literature review is.)
- kendrak
Advocate for OA in New York State! | Open Access @ CUNY - http://openaccess.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2013...
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O hai Illinois; you are not alone. How are these getting started? Anybody have any insight?
- RepoRat
from Bookmarklet
Well, isn't that interesting
- Hedgehog
I'd bet quite a bit CUNY is at the bottom of this somewhere. Other than that, I know nossing, I see nossing.
- RepoRat
There's a California bill too: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces... Hadn't any idea.
- RepoRat
Wow!
- barbara fister
Huh. Wonder if the CA legislature will also provide adequate funding to the California State Library...
- Walt Crawford
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Vendor doesn't want to vend.
- barbara fister
Response: Have you tried not sucking? (the you is the vendor. just had a panic that you'd think I meant you, Jen.)
- kaijsa
Thomson One?
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Too funny, kaijsa! Joe, no - this is a little niche business resource. I can't imagine a larger vendor would ever consider such a response.
- Jen
the good news for me at work today is that my ergonomic keyboard and mouse are here! Yay! the bad news is apparently i forgot that it is the day of the library recognition lunch, and I forgot to head to the other campus instead of to my office (my work hours are 12-8 today, lunch started at noon, hence the confusion). Boo!
yayboo.
- barbara fister
Hey folks, it's Derrick's birthday! I, for one, feel very lucky to know him. Best wishes for your coming year, Derrick.
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Happy!
- Jenica
Most wonderful of birthdays to you, Derrick!
- Lily
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Blake
Happy B-day.
- Yo. Shark Dog.
Happy birthday, D!
- Steele Lawman
Happiest of days, D!
- laura x
A happiest of birthdays to my brother from another mother.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Happy day to you, Derrick!
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Happy Birthday!!
- Hedgehog
Many happy returns of the day, my friend!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Thanks everyone!
- Derrick
hippo birdie two ewes
- LibrarianOnTheLoose
Happy birthday, Derrick!
- John (bird whisperer)
Happy Birthday!
- Kevin Johnson
Happy Birthday!!
- Kathy
Happy happy
- WarLord
Happy bday superman!
- Surprisingly Monstrous
Happy birthday. :0)
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Happy birthday! =)
- ronin
Merriest birthday, D!
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Happy birthday, sir!
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Happy birthday!
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Happiest of birthdays to you Derrick!
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Happy birthday!
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Happy birthday, dearest Derrick!
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Happy Birthday, Mr. Jefferson, Happy Birthday to you.
- Laura Norvig
Enjoy your day, Shug <3
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
Happy birthday!
- Amandadon't
Happy happy birthday to an awesome librarian!
- John: Thread Killer
Happy Birthday Derrick!!
- adf
Hippo birdie!
- Rebecca Hedreen
Happy Birthday Derrick! Awesomeness should come to you today!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Happy Birthday, Derrick.
- Greg GuitarBuster
Many happy returns of the day, Derrick!
- barbara fister
You're the best, D, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
I think it's now tomorrow here, but happy birthday anyway!
- Deborah Fitchett
Hey Derrick. Feliz cumpleaños!
- Franc, a rememberer
Thanks again, everyone!
- Derrick
<3 Happy birthday, D!!
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from Android
Happy birthday, my friend!
- Jim #TeamMonique
from iPhone
How wonderful life is that Iris and Derrick both are in the world. And alla y'all.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Still thinking of you, D!
- Anne Bouey
Many happy returns!
- Megan loves summer
Happy belated birthday Derrick!
- the king of the interweb
Just forwarded to me by our director: Announcing a New (and Free) Database of Open Access Scholarship - http://ala.informz.net/Informz...
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"Bepress Digital Commons invites you to explore a new database of open access scholarship (600,000+ articles) [...] This new resource for researchers includes scholarship from hundreds of universities and colleges, including peer-reviewed journal articles, book chapters, dissertations, working papers, conference proceedings, and other original scholarly work."
- Catherine Pellegrino
from Bookmarklet
BePress annoys me kind of a lot, but there's no denying they know their marketing.
- RepoRat
Is this Old News? I'm trying to figure out where exactly all this stuff is coming from. BePress is/makes repository software, right? So is it a compilation of all the OA stuff in BePress-powered repositories?
- Catherine Pellegrino
prolly, yeah. which, why haven't they had this all along?
- RepoRat
Okay, it would have been helpful if they'd, you know, said that in their vague ooh-shiny marketing copy.
- Catherine Pellegrino
interesting/odd/I'm confused
- lris
My director's going to see if she can touch base with them at Midwinter, to get a clearer answer to "where is all this coming from, anyway?" and "can it be set up as a target in SFX?"
- Catherine Pellegrino
Hmm, might need to add those to my list of questions to ask too... I got that email as well
- Hedgehog
They do a variety of things including IR, journal platform, and space for special collections/archive-type stuff. But "open access scholarship" could mean many different things. (They do have prodigious marketing. They also aren't cheap. But lots cheaper than hiring staff to build your own.)
- barbara fister
I'm just thinking, if we can somehow get our link resolver to know about this, then that will save our users one annoying Google Scholar work-around to get at this content, which: WIN.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I am doubtful the number of people who will go to this site to search. Realistically speaking, this should (is?) already found in Google Scholar and should be indexed in Summon etc. Trying a sample finds yes! it is ...
- aarontay
Oh yeah, there's no way I'm sending anyone here to actually search for articles, any more than I would send someone to DOAJ to search. (Though my colleagues include it on our list of databases, which...never mind.) I'm thinking more about the user who discovers an article by searching in one of our licensed databases, and the article happens to be included here...how does the user connect with that article? Hopefully via our link resolver.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I can actually see there are two entries/packages for Digital Commons in the serialssolutions knowledgebase. All should be open access?I am also requesting for it to be turned on too to try.
- aarontay
My colleague asked this question of this endeavour, that I thought was interesting. There are publisher license arrangements that allow for deposit in an institutional repository... but not a subject one. Does this reframing of existing content violate those agreements?
- copystar
Very interesting thought. But the publishers will have to go after BePress, because the authors did deposit the papers into institutional repositories. It's BePress that's repurposing the work. But then, the BePress IR software doesn't provide authors with an option to indicate restrictions on redistribution when they are depositing content, which is a defect in their system.
- DJF
The other optic that more annoys me than disturbs me, is that it looks like libraries put all the labour associated with building their small local institutional repository and then BePress re-purposes all the articles into something larger, flashier and all about BePress. I know that OA means being able to re-purpose work and I'm cool with that. Still, it just seems that libraries are *paying* in $$$ and labour for the privilege of populating BePress's new OA IR, and that seems like we are chumps, somehow.
- copystar
It'd be really hard to argue with a straight face that BePress has a DR. The stuff in there is gonna be all over the disciplines.
- RepoRat
Not sure about the legal thing, but I am not sure how much BePress gains from this really. It's an aggregator that they probably won't/can't charge for, and pretty much everyone won't use anyway.
- aarontay
It's pretty common for metadata from IRs to be aggregated into eg nationwide search place thingies (it's afternoon, my brain's fried; but like nzresearch.org.nz and oaister and stuff) which just link back to the original IR for the full-text. If that's all BePress is doing, not copying the full text, then I wouldn't think the publishers could complain. (If they were copying the full text then o.O because copyright, but it doesn't look like they are.)
- Deborah Fitchett
well, "copying fulltext" is moot when they have all the fulltext in a big bag on their server and this is just reorganizing it.
- DJF
they seem to be matching full-text though... that counts as copying (well at least using)? Actually if what they are doing is illegal, than Google scholar would be the same?
- aarontay
With second thoughts, I realize that I'm just sore that BePress costs us so much $$$. If this was an open source IR, I'd have no problem with this reframing.
- copystar
Apparently they *will* index material in other IR platforms as well (there was a thread on some repository list) but you have to meet a list of requirements that would not be easy for most other platforms.
- Sarah
what requirements are those?
- RepoRat
I'd have to figure out which listserv, but one was that the metadata records be clearly marked whether or not they were open or restricted, which, of course, DSpace doesn't do. Don't know about EPrints. We have way too many restricted items in IDEALS these days (digitized theses and dissertations) to try to figure that out.
- Sarah
*cusses DSpace* *cusses OAI-PMH* *cusses generally* It should be find-out-able even in DSpace with a SQL query to the DB ("which items in the DB contain content bitstreams that don't have Anonymous as an access group?"), but exposing that is the problem. Does BePress suggest how? Because, I mean, creating a custom metadata field and populating it with SQL would be doable.
- RepoRat
Let me see if I can dig the email out - though I delete a lot of them. But yes, it's annoying. And OAI-PMH is, I would guess, a big part of the issue. There was a *FANTASTIC* talk by Herbert Van de Sompel at IDCC this year basically reflecting back on the progression from PMH to ResourceSync. Very interesting.
- Sarah
Okay - here are the requirements. And they are way more onerous than just whether it's open or not - also needs to have download counts (hahahahahahaha)
- Sarah
The Digital Commons Network is dedicated to open access. For this reason, every record must have a full text that is completely free of restriction. We believe in associating all records with the branding of the institution that made them available. We would ask for the approved logo of every participating institution. In each Commons of the Digital Commons Network, we feature several...
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- Sarah
That's from a Jan 10 email to SPARC-OA Forum from Kenneth Gleason.
- Sarah
wtf is a "reciprocal path to the scholarship of others"?!
- RepoRat
I think basically they want you to put a link to the digital commons network in your metadata record.
- Sarah
uh......... NO. Zero relevance to the item in the repo.
- RepoRat
As for download counts, though, I'm actually kind of glad that BePress is forcing that issue. It's BEYOND time.
- RepoRat
yes but they are so unreliable - particularly if you are bringing together download counts from different platforms together. But I agree that this could force the issue other places.
- Sarah
I'm kind of over their unreliability. The people demand numbers, give 'em numbers, and an explanation of how the numbers were arrived at.
- RepoRat
We're trying to look at the code for integrating google analytics into the display - work that was done in Scotland - see http://goo.gl/fCZyL - will also help with standardizing stats with many other library services.
- Sarah
*taking notes*
- aarontay
This just came back around our library's email chain. Has anyone gotten an answer about whether/how it can be set up as a target in link resolvers? I was stupid and forgot to stop by their booth at ACRL.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, wait, our serials librarian says that everything in here (at least, all the peer-reviewed journal articles) is or should be already in DOAJ, and DOAJ is in our link resolver, so we don't need to worry about including this as well. Is she right? Pre/post-prints from toll-access journals wouldn't be in DOAJ, would they?
- Catherine Pellegrino
They may not be in DOAJ, but they might be in other places. Since BePress isn't in SFX, I can't run an overlap report there to find out.
- Kirsten
The problem with DOAJ is not everything in DOAJ is openly available
- awd
awd: If it isn't openly available, it doesn't belong in DOAJ, since you can't be OA without being, well, openly accessible. (Not saying it doesn't happen; saying it should be reported to DOAJ.)
- Walt Crawford
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