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lris
Happy birthday, Steele Lawman!
YES INDEED. - Zamms
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUDE!!! - laura x
Keep on truckin, etc. - Stephen Francoeur
VOTE FOR STEELE TODAY. (and happy birthday!) - Catherine Pellegrino
wait, what is Steele running for? - RepoRat
President of Awesometown. Happy Birthday, buddy! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Happy Birthday Steve! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Happy birthday! - John (bird whisperer)
Happy birthday! - Marianne
cheers! enjoy your day. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Happy birthday, Steve! - Pete
Happy birthday to a legend in his time.. - Steven M. Cohen
Happy Birthday Steve! - Hedgehog
Happy birthday! - Jen
Vote #1 Steele for birthdayness! - Meg VMeg
BIG HUGS - maʀtha
Happy birthday! - Laruia Ingalls Botts
Happy Bday - Steve C, Team Marina
Happy birthday!!! - Galadriel C. from Android
happy birthday steve! - Sir Shuping is just sir
Happy birthday!!! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Hope you enjoyed your day :-) - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
YAY FOR ALL CAPS!!!! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Happy Belated Birthday, Steele - MoTO Boychick Devil
Many happy (belated) returns - Megan loves summer
Another place for me to extend happy birthday wishes! And you'll have to tell me sometime the story of lurker Steven Fucking Cohen. Love you, Steele. - Mama Lawson
That's a great photo. - bentley
Mama Lawson TYPED THE F WORD! I love Mama Lawson. - MoTO Boychick Devil
Happy belated all caps f'ing birthday, man o'steele - barbara fister from iPhone
*faints while clutching pearls* - lris
Wow. Remember Flickr? - laura x
Oh, Barry, I washed my hands after I typed it. - Mama Lawson
I love it when Steele gets p0wned by his mom. :D - Catherine Pellegrino
lris
Spending my morning with Alma folks. It's on our short list of LMS vendors.
I'm impressed you're allowed to mention such things publicly... - JffKrlsn
[iris mysteriously disappears] - barbara fister
barbara fister
Since Reviewing the Evidence doesn't have the infrastruture/tech support to provide a review-by-review RSS feed, I'm tweeting them here https://twitter.com/RTEreviews
Anyone object if I simultaneously post them here? Don't think you can RSS-feed a Twitter account. - barbara fister
I don't mind at all; I appreciate your taking the time to post them here. - Margot Kinberg
lris
Set up overdrive on my mom's phone. Why oh why isn't that easier?
You have no idea how much easier it is now than it was a few years ago ... - laura x from iPhone
Ah, you have learned to sing the song of my people. - Andy
Oh yes I do. I set mine up a few years ago, and it literally took me all afternoon. - lris
Without enough added friction, our culture will perish. I think I heard that from the Authors Guild. - barbara fister
Barbara: Presumed emphasis on ***our*** culture? That is, the culture controlled by members of the Authors Guild? - Walt Crawford
My county library doesn't have Overdrive, but my parents' does. I promised I'd help my mom set it up on her computer/Kindle, so what I'm hearing here is that it will be a day's work over winter break. - kaijsa
It depends on the skills of the person you are helping, but I've gotten it down to about 10-25 minutes. Still a chunk of time, but not an afternoon. You get really good at it after awhilwe. - Andy
Barbara - I totally had an #iam12 moment reading that first sentence. - Katy S
lris
I find myself in the new position of telling a faculty member what friends have often told me about library sessions I'm not very confident about: Don't worry, so what if we aren't as prepared as we wanted to be for this, the students will get something out of it and there's no need to over-complicate our lives or start a round of sel-flagellation.
I have had lots of really well-prepared lib sessions go south. Many unexpected imrpov successes. This is what is known as teaching. Lots of independent variables over which we have little control. - barbara fister
John Dupuis
I'm a bit torn. I want to use a particular figure from a book chapter in my presentation tomorrow. So I email the authors to ask permission, they grant it. (Both are people I have weak links to.) After I send the email I have a Homer Simpson "D'Oh!" moment and check the book. For sure, copyright belongs to the publisher, McGill-Queen's...
University Press. Their permissions form is a nightmare and doesn't even mention presentations: http://www.mqup.ca/rights-... Not to mention that the presentation is tomorrow. I'm thinking I will forget I ever had my Homer Simpson moment and go with the author permissions. If anyone makes a fuss, I'll deal with it. - John Dupuis
If the presentation is on campus, then fair dealing suggests to me that you have several different defenses and never needed to ask permission in the first place. - DJF
Posting slides online, though.... - John Dupuis
For the online version you could put a big "this slide missing because publisher reserved all rights even though authors were happy to share." Or you could just throw it up there and see if they notice. Hope you kindly reminded the authors that they can't use their own figure w/o publisher's permission. - barbara fister
^What Barbara said^ - Aaron the Librarian
I have not as yet kindly reminded the authors, but I will. - John Dupuis
The editor at McGill-Queen's was one of our OA week speakers and he had a sensible take on fair dealing and electronic permissions. - Heather
lris
Help! Suppose I wanted to create a digital archive that included photographs of people in another culture. Suppose I went out and took their pictures as they farmed their land or something (they know I'm taking the picture). At what point do I need legal waivers?
From what I can tell so far, I'm ok if I don't use the person's likeness to promote anything. But IANAL - lris
and different cultures may oppose the very taking of the photo, etc. (not sure where you guys are with moral rights in the US, but this would fall under it in a lot of ways). - jambina
I'm totally going to regret trying to find Burmese privacy laws, aren't I.... - lris
oh my yes - jambina
is this for you, or a student? If a student, their prof might have some things to say about cultural rights practices, aside from law. Especially if this is anthropology. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from YouFeed
i think it might also depend on what you were going to do with the images after they went into the archive. #NotAnArchivist - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I went with "I am not a lawyer... maybe you should consult one?" - lris
always a safe choice! - RepoRat
Well, in this particular case, if he gets things wrong people could actually be killed. I'd prefer he doesn't make decisions based on a librarian's guesses. - lris
yeah, totally fair - RepoRat
Also, maybe an ethicist. What's legal isn't always ethical (and vice versa). Does the discipline have a code of ethics that might help? It's a really interesting issue but erring on the side of not getting people killed seems like more than a quesiton of law. - barbara fister
Kerrie
My comment about being back seems to have got swallowed or maybe I didn't really post it. Anyway here I am trying to get the brain to work. I have some reviews to catch up on and that will be a bit of a challenge, especially since we crossed the IDT on the way back and lost a day forever
Glad you're safely back, Kerrie. - Margot Kinberg
Ditto - Jose Ignacio
That business of losing a day always seems so mysterious to me. Whereas the hour change this time of year that makes my Minnesota afternoon darker always seems merely annoying. - barbara fister
barbara fister
A talk I gave to a library org a couple of days ago may be of interest (warning - long-winded) http://barbarafister.wordpress.com/2014...
Informative and really interesting! - Margot Kinberg
That was interesting - Scott
Thanks! I had fun but it was hard to tell if anyone else was :) - one really good and compleely unsnswerable question about why gendered violence in the genre is so popular with its majority female audience.Still haven't figured out an answer that makes sense to me. - barbara fister
When you find that answer let us know - it's a question that puzzles me. - Moira Redmond
excellent piece. will re-read more slowly and thoroughly when I have more time. - LauraRoot
laura x
For a friend: recommendations for an almost 12 year old boy whose dad is choosing his new wife over his kids and generally absconding with parenting responsibilities. Good reader, likes books, etc.
I assume a molotov cocktail is not what we're looking for, here. - barbara fister
I also assume it's not much comfort that Huckleberry Finn's father is a nightmare. - barbara fister
anything rick yancey--alfred kropp series, monstrolugist, 5th wave series, piers anthony xanth series--early books at least. - Sir Shuping is just sir
Little Brother by Cory Doctorow is good. I haven't read Homeland yet but it also got good reviews. His In Real Life graphic novel also seems good. - John Dupuis
Barbara, the molotov cocktail is so tempting. But yeah, probably not quite what we're looking for. - laura x
this series of books my my yoga teacher's husband are pretty good: The Nine Pound Hammer (Book, 2009) [WorldCat.org] http://www.worldcat.org/title... - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Trouble with Cory Doctorow's books is that his parents are so awesome. At least real, and there. Well worth reading, though (just still pondering the "books to help out a kid who's father is absent." ) - barbara fister
The rangers apprentice series might be good, I think justin went through that about age 9-11 or so. - Joe
Kids that age often love Riordan's Percy Jackson series, but since one of the problems for Percy and his friends is that their dads are VERY much crappy absconders (being gods and all...) It might be too on the nose. - Marianne
Is he willing to read books with female protagonists? I just finished Rain, Reign and it has a horrendous father (and a very good uncle). It might skew too young, though. Sure Signs of Crazy by Harrington is good. Stroud's Bartimaeus books are good if he likes fantasy, as are Sage Blackwood's Jinx books. Zebra Forest is good if her prefers more realistic fiction. If he can handle books... more... - Katy S
(Threadjack: I've actually met Doctorow's parents and they are awesome. Jewish Toronto is a pretty small place and Cory's dad went to school with my wife's cousin's husband. I've met them at a couple of birthday parties, etc.) - John Dupuis
John, I wonder if you know my family, then. David & Rebecca Harris? (Despite the last name, I'm actually related to Rebecca, on my mom's side.) - Laura
I don't think so, but I'll have to ask my wife, who's my connection into the Toronto Jewish community. - John Dupuis
Absolutely True Diary because it's worth reading? Also love Flight which is aobut a really messed-up teen which has a (spoiler alert) insanely hopeful and happy ending and i love that subversive gesture. It's also just phenomenally an ode to empathy in the face of painful history. - barbara fister
Portable Childhoods - Ellen Klages; One Is One - Barbara Leonie Picard - MoTO Boychick Devil from Android
Speaking of Ellen Klages, Green Glass Sea and White Sands, Red Menace are both great historicals set around the Manhattan Project. - John Dupuis
I've noticed everyone in the Chrestomanci series have absent parents and/or treacherous uncles... - Deborah Fitchett
My Side of the Mountain - maʀtha
The Green Book by Walsh. - maʀtha
Walt Crawford
I am so tempted to comment on this post, "I fear you are misusing the term 'gentleman' by applying it to Dan Kleinman." But that would just cause more trouble: http://professornana.livejournal.com/906182...
Then again, police often refer to pepetrators who murdered several people and then kicked a puppy as "gentleman," e.g. "we arrested the gentleman just as he was attempting to detonate a dirty bomb." I think it may be a passive-aggression badge. - barbara fister
...I thought police used "individual" in that sense. As though an "individual" is not quite a "person." - Catherine Pellegrino
"Individual" is also nicely gender-neutral. I'd love to see police use "gentleperson" to refer to vicious criminals, but I'm not going to hold my breath. - Walt Crawford
This guy (Kleinman) makes me feel UNsafe. - YvonneM
Honestly, some of you are being mean. Walt, why do you say I'm not a gentleman? Do you know me? Yvonne, why do I make you feel UNsafe? Have I ever met you? You are in the free speech, equal access profession, yes? Professor Nana makes flat out false and misleading statements about me, out of the blue, I find them and respond and she blocks my responses, posts one derisively, then posts... more... - Dan Kleinman
I know your track record for attacking OIF (and one of the finest librarians I know), for pushing censorship via filtering, for all of that. Oddly enough, I don't see any call here for "censorship...against the right people." And as for your tweet, obviously it wasn't "behind your back" if you read this. Sorry, Dan, but you've always been a troll, and I don't see that changing. - Walt Crawford
[I started to reply to DK's tweet about me saying "mean things behind his back" in a public forum he obviously was able to find, but that violates the rule even further. You know the rule: Don't feed the trolls.] - Walt Crawford
Is calling him a doosh feeding him? Just checking. - David Rothman (☤) from Android
There are trolls in Iceland who will get very pissed off if you route your road over their dwelling. These are not human trolls, though, and they use means other than the Internet to get even. Icelandic road builders do try to be nice to them though. Because that's how Icelanders work (unless fish are involved, which means WAR. or Þorskastríðin!!!) - barbara fister
barbara: Whereas around here a troll is used (at least on the Bay Bridge) for protection: http://baybridgeinfo.org/troll - Walt Crawford
Note that, while the original was installed surreptitiously, the new one was deliberately crafted and installed with, presumably, the approval of The Authorities. - Walt Crawford
Oh, the DK stories I could tell... - Andy
Could you tell some of us in dm mode? I don't know much background. - Joe
May not be needed. Gish Galloping along in the comments of http://libraryjuicepress.com/blog... which has some Andy posts. - Joe
On the troll and bridges thread, there's this charmer in Seattle. https://secure.flickr.com/photos... - barbara fister
As for the road-routing in Iceland, I heard this from an Icelandic writer who loves American highways but would neither confirm nor deny that trolls exist. Just that Icelanders generally respect their space. - barbara fister
Check thyself lest thee wreck thyself. - YvonneM
Jen
LSW: Jen
Thinking I need a better way to explain OA to faculty. Struggling to get past: "I must publish in x journal, don't tell me to publish in cut-rate journals." It's a start though.
is there a way past that? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
What field? Some are pretty open minded (no pun intended). And lots of journals allow self-archiving. Sounds like a) why the hell should I care? and b) I know nothing about OA yet have opinions because FUD. - barbara fister
you need to do a lot of mythbusting in this business. - jambina
Maybe the trick is to figure out who is a big name in their favorite area who has said smart things about OA. Or have faculty who have published OA and organize a cage match. - barbara fister
I like to tell the story about the paper that got dropped from a textbook because the original journal publisher said no - DJF from Android
I like the idea of finding faculty who have published OA and organizing a cage match :) - Jen
Shoving the explanation onus back on them can sometimes help. "Wow, where'd you hear THAT was necessary?" - RepoRat
Maybe respond with something like, "a journal that can be read and cited by many more scholars than the journal of x is considered to be of higher usefulness (not cut-rate). You can also much more easily track downloads of your work." - Joe
bust. the. myth. why do they think it's cut-rate? if it's cuz OA - well that's a business model with no effect on peer review. BUT be ready to say it's cut-rate, even if it is OA, if it's, ya know, cut-rate. but then talk about why it's craptastic and how that is independent of OA. - jambina
Do not mention the be all. - Joe
Found myself almost going there - to be all - but thankfully corrected course before it was too late. - Jen
Does anyone have advice for talking to one's colleagues about over-reliance on be all linkage? The infamous list comes up all the time at MPOW in OA discussions - Megan loves summer
Maybe recommend the publishers that are in oaspa as a positive list? But, that is certainly not comprehensive. I think oaspa had kicked some of the less reputable pubs. - Joe
RepoRat
Looks like the GSU shit is well and truly hitting the fan. https://t.co/d88sj1opKA
Start at Page 110 for the "In Summary" --- Ooof. So, now what happens? - Hedgehog
My read of the close: "Accordingly, we REVERSE the judgment of the District Court. We VACATE the injunction, declaratory relief, and award of fees and costs to Defendants, and REMAND for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. SO ORDERED" is that GSU gets to pay its own lawyers and GSU did not infringe on the 5 works specified as infringing in the origial decision. How does everyone else read that? - Aaron the Librarian
Now the lower court gets to reconsider the whole case based on the findings in this opinion. Which are... pretty scary, as I read 'em. GSU does not get its court costs paid, that is correct. We do not know at this point whether GSU infringed, and if they did, how often and how badly; that's what the lower court now has to reconsider. But I believe all charges (except the ones where the plaintiffs couldn't prove they held copyright) are back in play. - RepoRat
Kevin Smith just posted about it as well: http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholco... - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm not sure where the appelate court gets that the four factors should not be given equal weight... how else would one effectively apply them? While the statute says uses should be evaluated individually, that does not imply the factors should be given different weights for different works. - Aaron the Librarian
you have to apply all four factors holistically based on the facts of the case. those facts may and usually do imply that individual factors weigh more or less heavily. it's... complicated. - RepoRat
as for "different works," essentially you can think of this as several dozen individual copyright-infringement cases with the same plaintiffs and defendants being decided in the same proceeding. that's essentially what it is. - RepoRat
I want a workable mechanistic system! (as long as it goes in my favor) :) - Aaron the Librarian
Oh. Great. </sarcastic> - Joe
Aaron: It's my impression that workable mechanistic systems will work in your favor as soon as you change your name to Copyright Clearance Center. Otherwise, maybe not so much. - Walt Crawford
In case you haven't seen Nancy Sims's rundown: http://blog.lib.umn.edu/copyrig... - Megan loves summer
Just catching up on this. Nancy's take on it is much more optimistic than some other things I've been reading. This definitely raises some questions for me though about practical implications. It is already so hard to write a decent policy for e-reserves, and while I'm glad they reject the Classroom Copyright Guidelines, it is so hard to implement a practical e-reserve policy without some bright lines. - Freeda B.
I'm not as optimistic as Nancy and Kevin either. Seems to me this points us straight to the ugly hole that Canada is struggling to climb out of with Access Copyright. Freeda's worry is also salient: where there are no bright lines, the tendency is to be risk-averse. - RepoRat
Meanwhile faculty will post stuff to their CMSs without giving any thought to copyright and who's going to prevent (not present -former typo) them doing that or sending article by email or whatever works? Because very few of them see much connection between copyright decision making and putting a scanned book chapter into their course space. One of these things seems natural. - barbara fister
Until another publisher lawsuit successfully compels discovery of what's posted to the CMS... IANAL, but if I were a publisher that'd be the next thing I'd try for. - RepoRat
Then they'll have to start compelling access to faculty email because that will be the next workaround. Whack-a-fac. - barbara fister
My bet would be on a public faculty insurrection, actually; many won't think of email because they've imprinted on CMSes. Not to mention that this would make a mess of already-built courses. - RepoRat
I've summed things up from my perspective: http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014... - lris
*thanks Iris* Also this: "One option would be to have classroom instructors attach something like this as a cover sheet with anything they submit for eReserves." would make faculty even LESS likely to actually use ereserves. *sigh* - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
also, just because I like saying it: FFS - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I guess I'm not too worried about whether faculty use ereserves. They SHOULD be doing this whenever they copy stuff, but of course we know how likely that will be. - lris
(Interesting ... the big publishing houses just landed on my blog. I wonder what they'll think of it.) - lris
kaijsa
Writing my sabbatical proposal is exhausting. I need a sabbatical just to be able to plan a good sabbatical.
Just remember that it's a subgenre of speculative fiction and try to enjoy it. - barbara fister
What's the old saying? It's easier to ask permission to do something on your sabbatical than it is to actually end up doing the thing you asked permission for. - John Dupuis
(He says, figuring he'll start on the stuff he's "supposed" to do after finishing up the presentation on the 28th...) - John Dupuis
The hardest part is coming up with a plan this far in advance, as my application is due this month for a sabbatical in 2016. But as people keep telling me, plans can change. My head thinks it looks like a good application, so I'm going to stop stressing. - kaijsa
Also, double lolz to barbara. Speculative fiction is pretty spot-on. - kaijsa
Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, Primo, you never cease to amuse me.
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Primo knows best - lris
We need a "Damn You Auto-Suggest" tumblr. - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh yes. Oh yes we do. - laura x from iPhone
We do!! - Meg VMeg
We need a Primo Knows Best Tumblr, really. - Zamms from iPhone
I will do this tomorrow. - laura x from iPhone
I just demonstrated this to a class of senior music majors. They were amused. - Catherine Pellegrino
Always show how the resource doesn't work. That's my rule. - Zamms
omg - perfect use for tumblr - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I still like the Ebsco autosuggest for cyber warfare to caber warfare - Christina Pikas
^^^ That is brilliant. - Catherine Pellegrino
Depending on how the vote has gone .... - barbara fister
I remember students posting some interesting ones for Encore.. I think one went "Singapore general elections" and it went "did you mean 'Singapore fairy tales' "..... Can't duplicate it anymore or find the screenshot. - aaron
I got "did you mean frocks" when I searched for frack*. submitted. also, why are there 2517 results for frack* and only 426 for "frack*" . #LeSigh - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Oooh! And I got "did you mean frage?" for the same search! WTH is "frage"? (edit: Oh, right, German.) - Catherine Pellegrino
Aaron the Librarian
Cod Signal - none of MPOW's business resources will give me historical industry ratios. 1. would you mind sending adobbs at the gmials 5 or 10 years of industry ratios for INTC's industry (Semiconductiors - Broad Line) and 2. tell me where the data came form?
Current ratios are pretty easy, but getting historical is elusive today. (guess what I'll be proposing for future acquisition) - Aaron the Librarian
let me take a look, just a sec. - ellbeecee
do you have an SIC code to make it easier for me? (we have D&B industry norms & key biz ratios online, but I'm being lazy about looking up the SIC myself) - ellbeecee
I see it listed in Mergent as -- Industry: Semiconductors and related devices (SIC 3674) Industry: Semiconductor and Related Device Manufacturing (NAICS 334413) ? - Aaron the Librarian
fwiw, this access is awful. Slow as hell. I'll get it to you by 5 (probably by 4:30) but their formatting makes it slow. - ellbeecee
Ha. I've managed to get through 2010 so far. It's getting there though. Soon, I promise. - ellbeecee
ok, sent. - ellbeecee
thanks for plowing through that interface... osunds suboptimal - Aaron the Librarian
it's usually not, though - I'm not sure what's going on with it today. - ellbeecee
Questions like this make my imposter syndrome kick in like WOAH. - barbara fister
^^^ Yes. - bentley
chemistry does that to me. :) - ellbeecee
Walt Crawford
I *so much* want to tell this Visionary White Male Executive to shove it...well, anyway, you might or might not enjoy this, even with the "Library is dead, long live the library" oh-so-visionary/disruptive cliche subhead:...
Oh my stars, where do you find this stuff? - Marie
Somebody noted it on either Twitter or Facebook or Google+; most likely FB. - Walt Crawford
I saw it on Fb too, as well as this one: http://www.thenation.com/article... You can't fire a cannon down the street these days without hitting a education-disrupting venture capitalist. - John Dupuis
Summary: "I went to the library when I was a kid. My kid now goes to the library. The library is still around! How? I don't know. Maybe, "It appears that the library realized it was not in the business of checking out books, but of engaging in the process of accessing and applying knowledge." The end." - bentley
Oh, brother! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
"innovative" and "excellence" are on my bullshit list. Also vionary and disruptive. They offer certificates in innovation. Does it require renewal every ten minutes? I mean, how long does that last? - barbara fister
"When my son started saying that he was going to the library with his girlfriend to study, I had to investigate if this was even possible." ಠ_ಠ - Andy
that he had a gf? or that he studies? - Aaron the Librarian
"There were literally people of all ages and they were all enjoying themselves." Tee. - Melissa M
barbara fister
DO ANYBODY NO about the International Conference on Books, Publishing, and Libraries? Scam? Not scam? Common Ground Publishing is behind it but link doesn't work. Hmm.
Or any knowledge of Common Ground Publishing founded in the 80s in Illinois and published in many fields and has "scholar knowledge communities." - barbara fister
They are on the U of I campus. Looks like several of their websites are down. Their book titles look interesting. http://theuniversitypressbooks... - Joe
It's interesting that nobody here appears to have personal knowledge of this conference which has been going on for years. Huh. A faculty member asked me about it. I guess all I can say is "uh, dunno." - barbara fister
To be clear Common Ground Publishing a run by a faculty member at Illinois but is not based at the University. I would say that it does not have a stellar reputation (if you search for it on the Chronicle discussion boards there are conversions there). - Sarah from FreshFeed
Thanks - that's very helpful. Will take a look. - barbara fister
What's interesting is that it seems to be the conference/journal packaging that has become so popular and weird of late, but started early on. Still - Imma gonna recommend ix nay to the faculty member because it just doesn't smell right and her conference dollars are limited. - barbara fister
aaron
Trying to recall this blog post on library website design that critised library websites for putting mostly content (links to search, databases etc) instead of showcasing events or their people.
I remember it was fairly controversial and led to a little blog exchange. I *think* it was on academic libraries but could easily have been on public libraries. - aaron
Thanks Catherine exactly. in particular I remember the response you made. been rethinking lately about library website design and mobile tech lately. - aaron from YouFeed
Catherine's piece is great and I **love** the connection between campus site as marketing tool and library website as marketing tool. Nearly impossible to find the actual life of a campus when it's all splashy "why you should enroll/give" Potemkin's village. When I go to a library site, I'm usually looking for stuff, not library news and social media palaver. - barbara fister
Funny how we go back and forth on this. Kind of like faculty committees - we have too many! prune, prune. We need a committee for .... grow, grow. We have too many (repeat infinitely). - barbara fister
Bell's discussion only makes sense (to me) for academic and school libraries. For public libraries, the "parent institution's website" only comes into play if the library's website is so badly titled/designed that people can't find it directly. I suppose there must be some who say "I need to see stuff at the library. That's probably a city department, so..." but not many. - Walt Crawford
Maybe I misunderstand Bell's piece. But I see academic libraries moving away from the search/discovery business (thanks to changing habits, open access availabilty etc) and moving towards showcasing expertise in data research management, open access, GIS and new facilities like labs etc. This would imply the real estate on the portal should shift towards mentioning those areas and less on "stuff". - aaron
I also notice is that another way to solve the problem would be to have a smart bento style search box with a "best bets" or something, so common searches would recommend librarians and or services... Eg try searching GIS for NCSU libraries. - aaron
I may also have misunderstood; it wasn't Bell's clearest column. - Walt Crawford
Aaron, that shift away from search/discovery toward data management, GIS, etc. may be true ... at R1s, ARL libraries, and other top-tier places. Not so much at small teaching colleges, Podunk State University, community colleges, etc. Which make up a huge proportion of academic libraries, at least in the U.S. - Catherine Pellegrino
Catherine: But isn't it fairly standard operating procedures for discussions of What Academic Libraries Need to focus on The 148 (Research/doctoral intensive) or The 143 (libraries spending at least $10 million), assuming that what works for them will also work for the other three thousand? - Walt Crawford
What's good for the goose is good for the gosling. - Stephen Francoeur
Or to frame all of higher eds problems in terms of either R1s and their undergrad experience or ivy leagues, almost always ignoring the experiences of the nearly 50% who attend CCs. We seem to have a problem grasping the wide spectrum when talking about issues. - barbara fister
Not that public library discussions are free of this problem--amazing the number of discussions, etc. that appear set in a world where most public libraries are good-size institutions serving at least 40,000 people (true of about 15% of America's public library systems). - Walt Crawford
Yes, my argument is for research intensive universities including my own I guess. - aaron
Mr. The Jason Fleming
New report urges university libraries to reconsider their role in discovery @insidehighered - https://www.insidehighered.com/news...
New report urges university libraries to reconsider their role in discovery @insidehighered
"As faculty members and students find new ways to locate scholarly research, a new report encourages college and university libraries to re-evaluate whether their efforts to connect users with content are money well-spent." - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Bookmarklet
This article makes my head explode. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
seriously.. - Mr. The Jason Fleming
oh wow, that's great advice. why hadn't we thought about doing this before now? - Marie
More important that they get there easily but know that we are the reason they were able to get there - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
Yet look at how many directors indicate strong agreement with those strongly worded statements... - Lisa Hinchliffe
I think directors aren't the ones getting requests from patrons asking for help in connecting to resources. - kaijsa
well until the patron needing help is someone who knows someone in campus administration and then the problem goes straight to the director #butIdigress - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Utrecht is already trying it: http://libereurope.eu/news... - RepoRat
The problem I come across with users using Google Scholar is that they hit a paywall for articles we don't have access to instead of a link to a populated ILL form - Mr. The Jason Fleming
^yep, that^ - Aaron the Librarian
GS probably would run into friction from publishers supplying them with the content if they made it too easy to have an alternative to purchse. Then again, would be neat to know how many people searching GS actually purchase the articles they find there. (Not many, my guess.) - barbara fister
I actually kind of agree that we exaggerate the discovery function of libraries and overinvest in trying to be discovery engines. And that too many people in positions of power get upset at the idea that discovery isn't a library thing, that we're "falling behind." Libraries never were the primary place where discovery happened for scholars, though it has been and still is pretty good at "five scholarly articles, stat." - barbara fister
Let me change that "kind of agree" to "agree strongly." - barbara fister
This, by the way, is something that has interesting instruction implications. Is it all about discovery? Not if by "discovery" we mean "searching for a subject and finding some sources." - barbara fister
^^ heh - barbara fister
John Dupuis
Secret Agent Fister at the Ontario Library Association Super Conference! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! http://www.olasuperconference.ca/speaker...
And Chris Bourg and a bunch of other great speakers too! - John Dupuis
Oh, hi, and squee back at you with a side of "eep! not ready." - barbara fister
And a live performance of Welcome to Night Vale. - DJF from Android
DJF
LSW: DJF
If our users don't migrate away from RefWorks after seeing this login screen, I have NO sympathy for them at all.
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Pret' good warnng, there. - barbara fister
does the seconds box visibly decrement? - RepoRat
Yup. It's generated by javascript, so it's a live countdown to next august. - DJF from Android
When I sent a mass email out to the local RefWorks users (everybody who's logged in in the past year), I got a complaint from one grad student that we didn't give her enough notice. - DJF
She can keep her account, no? Or does that only happen if you graduate from a school that currently subscribes. Or did they drop that "it's yours forever" thing? - barbara fister
alumni from schools that currently subscribe... but I don't know how tough RefWorks is going to be on people. - Christina Pikas
Can you get the Mission Impossible music to autoplay.... kidding! #sorrynotsorry - John Dupuis
It's "forever, as long as the school subscribes" - DJF from Android
I need to show this to folk at MPOW -- I think we're a couple three years away from crossing this bridge but it's coming. - Heather
It really does take a year, because you need to start the school year with the librarians talking about "not RefWorks", and give lots of time so that people can pick a good time to transition their writing from one system to another, including folks who are writing books or dissertations. - DJF from Android
What are you offering instead of RefWorks? - Holly's favorite Anna
Wait, what? They gave an official date? - Meg VMeg
Oh, you are canceling it, it's not a switch to Flow. - Meg VMeg
I cannot tell you how much I love this. - Mari
Crime and mystery fiction
Review: Only the Dead by Vidar Sundstol tr. Tiina Nunnally - http://eurocrime.blogspot.com/2014...
Review: Only the Dead by Vidar Sundstol tr. Tiina Nunnally
Review by Laura. - Karen Meek
Thoughtful, well-written review, too. - Margot Kinberg
Thanks Margot. Now I can check out your review Barbara! - LauraRoot
I see we thought among similar lines :) - LauraRoot
Yes! So different from the first in the trilogy. Wondering what the third will be like. - barbara fister
Catherine Pellegrino
Adobe Is All Up in Your Reading Business, And Other Links | Smart Bitches, Trashy Books - http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/blog...
Pull quote: "That sound you hear right now is a million trillion librarians saying, I BEG YOUR PARDON?" [Also includes numerous awesome .gif and .jpg side-eyes, including "the Phylicia Rashad side eye, which, as you know, is the most powerful side eye in the known universe."] - Catherine Pellegrino from Bookmarklet
Also loved Andromeda Yelton on this: "This is about the fact that we do not have the technical skills to verify whether our products are in line with the values we espouse, the policies we hold, or even the contracts we sign, and we do not delegate this verification to others who do." http://andromedayelton.com/blog... - Regular Amanda
Andromeda has written the best explanation and call to action I've seen yet. I'm grateful and am sharing with my faculty. - kaijsa
"As a profession, we have decided that we want to cede control over these kinds of things to vendors." - if this is true, can't we change our mind back? shouldn't we at least think about changing it? Minds aren't toothpaste, and trains return to stations all the time... - Marianne
I'm happy to continue the privacy fight... but really, the only problem here is that the data was sent in clear text. Or is the ability to sync your reading across devices not desirable enough and we should do away with the tool that enables this functionality? Kindle does the same thing - only with your kindle login (and probably not in clear text). - Aaron the Librarian
Will this still be a problem once Adobe figures out how to hash the JSON object used to transfer teh data? - Aaron the Librarian
I think it will... but I've always been way over on the skinny end of the bell curve when it comes to privacy. - RepoRat
HTTP://kindle.amazon.com/most_popular - DJF from Android
Aaron, from what i can tell the three big things are "clear text? wtf?" plus "they're roaming my devices to gather info from ALL of my epubls which I never agreed to and it's creepy" plus "WHAT IS THIS AWFUL THING NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT DRM OH NO NO NO" which, well, that last one is kind of like those scientists being all "I GOT A TAKEDOWN FROM ELSEVIER FOR MY ARTICLE CAN THEY DO THAT?"... more... - barbara fister
The developers of the Bluefire reader comment: http://www.bluefirereader.com/blog.... Interestingly, they support syncing your reading location between devices, but their servers only synchronize a secure token that they can't read. Much like the way that Firefox sync works. - DJF
yeah, Griffey suggested hashing userid + bookid, and I don't see why that wouldn't work: http://jasongriffey.net/wp... - RepoRat
Aaron: I'd disagree that clear text is the only problem. If the patron's identity is attached to the reading records and those records are non-transitory and subject to subpoena or fishing expeditions, then *poof* reader privacy, a bedrock value for *public* libraries at least, goes out the window. And I'd guess all three "ifs" are true. - Walt Crawford
Crime and mystery fiction
I have an ARC, but keep avoiding it ... sounds a bit too focused on the "desire" thing for my tastes. - barbara fister
lris
About to present on the ACRL Framework of Information Literacy. Here's hoping someone will show up... #mla2014
How'd it go? - Aaron the Librarian
I think it went fine. We had about 25 people which is great for a very public library focused conference. - lris
Heard good things on Twitter. - barbara fister
maʀtha
Cod Question for academic libraryfolk: Who uses pay per view for articles along with ILL?
How is it decided what goes to ILL vs PPV? If you do PPV, is it mediated or unmediated and why? Which vendors do you use? - maʀtha
Also, Jenica, is PPV part of your strategy for serving chemistry folk after dropping the big ACS package? We do not yet have the big ACS package and are wondering if/how we could avoid getting it. - maʀtha
Steve and Marianne, I believe you do mediated PPV for articles in ScienceDirect, right? - maʀtha
We have PPV for many of the Nature Publishing group titles using the buggy readcube software. It is unmediated. It is essentially a pilot project just to see how much money gets used to read the individual articles vs. subscribing. - Joe
We have some kind of PPV arrangement for some Nature Publishing Group titles, and I think a different arrangement for the ACS package that we cancelled. Both are mediated, as far as I know. - Catherine Pellegrino
Can anyone speak to why your PPV is mediated? Has anyone tried unmediated? - maʀtha
We have had CCC's GIN for years, in both mediated and unmediated form. It's currently replacing one of our "medium" deals. (CUP) - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Jaclyn, how do you market this? Do you market it or do you just wait to see who shows up at the ref desk with a request? What are the pros and cons of mediated and of unmediated? - maʀtha
We don't. It shows up like a regular target in SFX (ie Full Text available here or whatever the wording usu says), except I think we put in some note about it being a premium service (because we had a surprising number of people download the same article a few months later). Mediated took away the time/cost advantage of GIN vs ILL. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Oh, wait, by "mediated" do you mean that patrons have to request it specifically, Martha? Then no, ours isn't mediated -- from the patron perspective it's a seamless part of our link resolver. But each request is reviewed by a staff person, not just put through automatically, mostly for cost containment reasons. - Catherine Pellegrino
I think I mean mediated as Steve describes. But, now I know there is a third option - maʀtha
We buy articles for folks. Does that count? We do this if we have exhausted 5/5 or if color images need to be sharp, as in a certain outrageously expensive Chromatography journal. - barbara fister
laura x
Fwd: Here is where you recommend books for the mystery book discussion group I run at the library. Go!
Best mystery books by little known authors? https://www.goodreads.com/list... [eta: or the superset of mysteries: https://www.goodreads.com/list... ] - Aaron the Librarian
One offs or series? I mostly ready cozy mysteries--by the pile if I can find an author I like. - Hedgehog
Either is fine. It's a group that's been running for 20 years. I inherited it 4 years ago, and I don't generally read mysteries, so it's been interesting. - laura x
Is there a particular subgenre of mystery your group likes? I find Tana French's books (more crime fiction than mystery, but definitely mystery) are good for conversation. Also Night Film. - kaijsa
Also I'm reading G.M. Ford's Leo Waterman series, which I admit to enjoying partly because it's set in Seattle. Pretty gritty, but funny in spots. - kaijsa
They're all over the map. We read Night Film this year and had a great discussion--I think about a quarter of them loved it and the rest hated it, which is always fun. - laura x
That is fun! My book group was divided on Night Film, but everybody was engaged in talking about it. - kaijsa
I'll second the Tana French books. I don't read many mysteries but I really liked those and there would definitely be things to discuss. - kristin buxton
Ooh, I loved the Last Policeman series. They're mysteries, but also about "being" a detective, what that means. The book starts with this plot point: an asteroid is racing towards Earth and going to end the entire human race. So the books are very existential, why even try to solve murders? etc. [edited to give goodreads link instead of Amazon] http://www.goodreads.com/book... - Regular Amanda
(For a moment I thought Last Policeman was a book version of the Peter Davison TV series, but that was called The Last Detective. It's a good show, btw.) - bentley
Lindsay Faye's series set in 19th century New York are terrific. And I usually don't read historical mysteries. - barbara fister
It seems like you would've already checked these out, laura, but barbara's *own* mystery novels are pretty splendid - I've read and deeply enjoyed both in the Anni Koskinen series, and they have (unsurprisingly considering the author) an awareness of social justice that seems like it might appeal to you as well as your group. (the first of those is called In the Wind.) - Marianne
"Fallen Into the Pit" by Ellis Peters, the first in the Inspector George Felse series https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
for something a little silly and appealing to your sci-fi nerds, "Bimbos of the Death Sun" by Sharyn McCrumb https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
Two science fiction/fantasy mysteries I've read this year that I really enjoyed were Scalzi's Lock In and The Rook by Daniel O'Malley. - Katie
Yes on Tana French as well. - YvonneM
{{ marianne }} aw, thanks. Actually, I think Laura already did that and gave interestng feedback. - barbara fister
Cameron Neylon
Apologies to all but am afraid I was interviewed today on "the future of libraries"
BUT something occurred to me during that which is the difference between longevity as a mission objective in terms of the preservation *function* vs the longevity of the *institution* so as to deliver that function. I presume someone has written/thought about this at length? It only really occurred to me then. - Cameron Neylon
...and that challenges in management planning (prediction beyond or even within the mythical 5 year plan) play out differently if you focus on a different one of those two things. - Cameron Neylon
This was in answer to a question on "what timeframes should libraries plan for". And my first answer was "centuries" and my second was "it depends on what you mean by 'plan'". - Cameron Neylon
10 lashes with a piece of tattle tape for you! ;) - lris
Oh, I think we plan for both? Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by preservation function. - Meg VMeg
Who was the interviewer? Do you have a link with more info about it? - Joe
Would another term for preservation in terms of "longevity of the institution" be "sustainability"? Or does that muddy the waters even further? - Catherine Pellegrino
Libraries should not plan (as in "strategic plan") instead should set goals and adopt useful strategies http://www.ssireview.org/blog... [eta: too bad this program was cancelled at ALA Annual http://ala14.ala.org/node... ] - Aaron the Librarian
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. I was trying to articulate that "Library as memory institution" doesn't necessarily imply the *library* hangs around forever but that the relevant functions (preservation, curation, weeding etc) do. The interview was part of a project at a UK research university looking at what it is doing for the future, so not a media thing. - Cameron Neylon
So was wondering whether when people think about ensuring that those activities have a long life (centuries) do they just assume the institution continues or do they think about how to ensure that the functions will continue (and one way of doing that is to institutionalise them). I may be just thinking myself in knots here but it seemed like an important point at the time. - Cameron Neylon
@Aaron Yes! That's more or less exactly what I said (only with...like...rationale and stuff). Will pass that on to the interviewer! - Cameron Neylon
I think you're entirely right, Cameron. I have sometimes phrased this in terms of opportunity and opportunity cost -- as New Stuff comes around, libraries have to consciously decide whether it's Library Stuff or not. Naturally there are risks in both directions: New Stuff that's a waste of time or off-mission, vs. New Stuff that gets institutionalized (as you put it) outside the library because the library dithered instead of committing to it. - RepoRat
And honestly, wouldn't it be nice if we did more to preserve stuff collectively and less trying to justify ourselves locally? - barbara fister
Weeeellllll, yes, but that puts us in the exact vulnerable position that university presses got into. UPs were/are *systemically* vital but *locally* hard to justify, which after a while meant Very Large Axes got taken to their subsidies. It's a dangerous line to walk. - RepoRat
Dude, local or die :) - Meg VMeg
Which means issues best addressed systemically... don't get effectively addressed. If there's an answer to this dilemma, I dunno what exactly it is. - RepoRat
Is the interview going to appear anywhere? And as for systematically, I think the Ontario-wide Scholars Portal collaboration shows potential for libraries getting together and saving the world a little bit. - John Dupuis
@John: no I don't think so, it was a strategic planning exercise not a media thing. @RepoRat, MegVMeg: Another aspect was the question of the "local" libraries within the institution, departmental, college etc. I made the point that local provision was no doubt being justified on the basis of local user need, and that was a good justification, but what about user groups that didn't have... more... - Cameron Neylon
Hmmmm...through hiring diverse staff, through programming/outreach and surveys, through paying attention to the community when they leave the walls of the library and paying attention to hunches. It's definitely a big question, but it's one we bother to struggle with and think about, and one that gets discussed in LIS education. - Meg VMeg
Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
So here's my engaging activity for this afternoon's class (for PhD student of prof who wanted more engagement in instruction): when we do the "think up keywords for your topic" portion of the class, I will have them type their search into a Google form. then i'll copy & paste all their searches into a Wordle. Then I'll search the big words from the
wordle in the appropriate EBSCO database. Then we will discuss pros & cons of those search terms. Curious to see if that engages them. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
also, curious to see 18 different search strings. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
How did it work out? - Soup in a TARDIS
Let us know how it goes! - YvonneM
it was fun - a little time-consuming, but effective. The students were definitely engaged. I would do it again. Will post the wordle tomorrow. :-) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
cool! - YvonneM
now that might actually be a useful use for a Wordle! I might have to share that one - ~Courtney F
Very cool idea. - barbara fister
… wondering if I should attempt with 50 students on Thursday … … I think it will … #brave - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
colleague tried this just now. fell flat I think. - aaron from BuddyFeed
yeah, it's tricky. what didn't work, d'you think, aaron? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I was just observing, but i think almost everyone entered the same search terms. - aaron
mine seemed to like the activity of typing something. I'm not convinced it added anything but time … but they did seem to like it, so i'll try again. Plus it's kind of neat to see what they searched for -- like "Beyoncé and Jay Z's PR team, public statements, marriage issues Blue Ivy " - is what they'd type into Mr. Google. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
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