I don't know all that much about it, actually. I got a message on LinkedIn from a recruiter asking me if I knew anyone that had a fairly niche-y skill set since I was in the Greenville area. I responded that *I* did but might not have the length of experience the client required and offered a suggestion of where he could advertise the position. Apparently that was enough to get him to actually look at my profile and he'd like to talk to me about it...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck! I hope that once you talk with the recruiter, you both find that you're a good fit!
- vicster is...
If it's the position I think it is, I know it's something I can do. I just have to get my foot in the door and prove it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck with the interview tomorrow. Hopefully, it will result in an early Christmas present!
- Anne Bouey
I hope so Anne! Turns out my dad's pre-test interview for therapy got shifted back tomorrow morning so I have to do that first. If I wind up playing phone tag with the gent about the job again, I'm going to offer to meet up with him over lunch. Nothing like tasty noms to put someone in the hiring mood!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hope this goes well - fingers are still crossed!
- WorldofHiglet
Well, I played phone tag with the gent earlier today but just got done with a 27 minute phone conversation with him. He seemed intrigued (and specifically complimented my phone demeanor) and is sending me more information about the position. I'm not exactly qualified for it per se, but I know it's something I can do well. My job at this point is to make myself look like an undiscovered gem *shines her facets*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sounds promising - I really hope they snap you up. And, if I may say so, your facets are looking particularly alluring today....
- WorldofHiglet
You've been discovered now; he just doesn't know what kind of gem he's found yet. Shine!
- Anne Bouey
This is so crazy - why stand by such a crappy retouch? Good luck Anthony, kudos for sticking to your guns.
- Joe
The reach of this story just got reachier.
- Micah Wittman
Oh well, then. In the words of Bender - they're boned.
- WorldofHiglet
I wish they had spelled your name right, though, Antiny.
- WorldofHiglet
They did call him "the lensman" though, which sounds like a superhero to me.
- Joe
Good luck, and please keep us posted. They are being such douchebags...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
You all remember the Consumerist not backing down from the Cash 4 Gold retaliation http://consumerist.com/2009... right - they held their ground, light was shed in a dark corner, and justice prevailed. It's not always that clear cut, nor easy, and battles can be lost; but it's right. It's a completely different set of circumstances here, but the principal of it is universal. All the best, Anthony.
- Micah Wittman
@WoH: thanks, they be fixin' it soon, I trust.
- Anthony Citrano
While I agree that Demi Moore is starting to take this too far, at the same time I do have to say that the guy who did the Photoshop work should have at least checked to make sure that things were lined up correctly. Photoshopping a image is one thing, but not keeping an eye on your work is another.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Demi needs to sue the ham-handed p'shopper. She's definitely missing a chunk of hip, unless she's an alien. Talk about shooting the messenger!
- Rick Cogley
"I first fell in love with Indian food a few years ago after being heavily coaxed by my two more "adventurous-with-foods" friends. I am very picky about trying new foods, especially when the food looks unfamiliar to me or is composed of colors I'm not accustomed to seeing on my plate (e.g., the loud red color on tandoori chicken). After trying tandoori chicken, though, I opened myself to trying CTM and fell in love with this dish instantly."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Chicken Tikka Masala is one of the most popular dishes in the UK. It's also supposed to have been invented in the UK by a chef in an Indian Restaurant in Scotland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Ian May
That's really, really dark Chicken Tikka Masala.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I thought it was the Gobi Desert. Aloo is potato so I'm assuming 'gobi' is cauliflower.
- Akiva Moskovitz
GOD DARN IT. I may have to order from Mehak today.
- Spidra Webster
Oh, I get your meaning now. I was thinking aloo = potato; Gobi = desert. Yours makes more sense.
- Bren -- Still Believes
from iPhone
I just got Tandoori Chicken, Aloo Gobi and Chicken Korma. Plus extra papadum. And it's YOUR fault, Derrick...ALL YOUR FAULT!
- Bruce Lewis
Chicken Korma is okay, but personally I think goat korma is superior. SOOOOOOO delicious. Think I may have to swing by the Indian grocery store on my way home from work.
- Jason Huebel
Pretty much anything with goat is good, IMO. I actually prefer goat over beef.
- Jason Huebel
The reason that Chicken Tikka Masala looks brown is that they used a can of crushed tomatoes instead of tomato sauce in that recipe. Most Chicken Tikka Masala recipes call for tomato sauce for a creamy consistency.
- Adrian
Goat is the most commonly eaten meat in the world
- Ian May
I had some on Sunday and it was pretty good. I'm a huuuuuge fan of CTM. My favorite place in LA (and I've tried quite a few) is Al Noor in Lawndale http://www.yelp.com/biz...
- Mark Krynsky
That's not a chicken tikka massala, it's not even red! England is the home of the Curry, and here in the midlands we've got some badass curry places, sadly as with most ethnic foods the real deal (homemade) is always superior
- Toby Graham
from iPhone
The masala sauce I buy in stores is red and yummy. The shrimp masala I buy at Indian restaurants is also red and yummy.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Weird. I figured that it'd be India and/or Thailand that would be the 'home of the Curry' and not England.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Lo! We are having Aloo Gobi and Roti for dinner tonight, in about 35mins! ;)
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
Got curry chips at The Pub last week. Sadly, I will probably be forced to go get Indian food tonight; I don't think I even live near an Indian restaurant anymore.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Как вкусно выглядит. Это рис такой желтый?
- Ольга Сукачева
@Toby , you have real balls to say "England is the home of the Curry " !! - Why do really think the home of Curries in England ?? The home of Steakpies is England. .and the home for Curries in India !!
- Peter Dawson
“...your demand that I retract my statements is a demand that I do further unwarranted and costly damage to a reputation you have already deliberately tarnished. Demanding an apology adds insult to this injury. Obviously, neither of these will be forthcoming.”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Too bad this shit storm has affected you this way. I presume you have engaged an attorney?
- Brian Sullivan
Ouchie is right. Nice work on the vids.
- Cole Jolley
thanks all. now i am going to turn off my phone and hide
- Anthony Citrano
Comprehensive and to-the-point. Hard to see how they can gain anything from pursuing it further - and let's hope an apology from the other side is forthcoming (though I wouldn't hold my breath for that).
- WorldofHiglet
I cannot believe these assclowns are suing you and have actually coerced written statements from publishers and photographers that photos which appeared in print are not retouched in any way. They should have their tongues cut out.
- Adam Turetzky
I have just submitted this to Digg because I hate to see people threatened for telling the truth: http://digg.com/celebri... The only way they will drop this is if they are caught in the act of bullying and are called out for it.
- WorldofHiglet
I think you're handling yourself brilliantly, Anthony. Don't let 'em get you down...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Lets hope they drop it and quickly too else this will end up being another 'Streisand effect'.
- Mel Buckpitt
Wow - what a great example of the wrong way to handle bad PR. Don't they know this is just going to make a bigger, worse story for her? How stupid.
- Ciaoenrico
@Ciaoenrico - you know, this is actually one of the reasons why I hesitated and spent a few days thinking and seeking some sanity checks/counsel. I mean, one of the first thoughts that occurred to me when I got the letter was: these people are either way dumber than I am - or way smarter. And I didn't want to presume the former.
- Anthony Citrano
Why does it say "Ouchie" by her thumb, when the missing part was her upper thigh? And why are they mad at you? They should be mad at the Photoshop "artist."
- Kimber Scott
I just read the letter they sent again - talk about a reality gap! I'm not sure they are even in the same universe when it comes to the truth. Now, if only you could get the rights from Shakira so you could use "Hips don't Lie" for your videos...
- WorldofHiglet
I read the beginning of the article where you got a letter from Moore's attorney and then I clicked the link that led to the original article where you spoke about the chunk of hip missing. I guess I'll go back and read more... I thought I'd gotten the gist of it. I just didn't understand where the thumb came in. Will report back soon...
- Kimber Scott
Ok. Now, I get the thumb. I still don't get their attitude. Silly people. You've got the evidence on your side. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.
- Kimber Scott
It is unbelievable that they would stand behind such a crappy retouch and it is almost surreal that they would take it this far.
- Joe
It really is. I can't imagine the reasoning behind it at all.
- WorldofHiglet
well written well reasoned and sadly that it was even necessary but good luck in getting the right outcome
- WarLord
Of all the people I know on FriendFeed that might be sent threatening letters from a Hollywood star's attorney, Anthony was not in my first group. Go figure.
- WorldofHiglet
Unfortunately civil actions often have nothing to do with logic, what is right or even the law.
- Brian Sullivan
As far as I can tell you've proven your point well enough that any counter point would have to have twice the proof. The claims of "no retouching" are obviously not just incredible but discredited. Good job on the vids. :)
- Heather
Anthony: it's hard to know what it says about either of us ;)
- WorldofHiglet
wow, that retouching is super obvious. Look at the line between the leg and hip - doh! Lame attorneys. The photoshop hack needs a new job, errr correction, new career.
- Susan Beebe
This whole issue could be settled in two seconds if the photographer would simply post the original RAW file from the photo shoot.....
- Jeff P. Henderson
Yes, Jeff, but that's not likely now I wouldn't think.
- WorldofHiglet
can you believe panties got all bunched up because of Anthony's statement? en-croy-obb
- Bryan R. Adams
Oh man, this is going to make things so much worse for Demi. Why didn't they just shut up and face the truth. It's so obviously retouched, the videos in the article prove this without a doubt. I would like to understand the missing hip flesh part tho and why it was not in the "untouched" version.
- Jason Citrano
Let's all write to Demi and tell her we would have no beef if she wasn't trying to cover up something that isn't honestly about her (cuz it's just about the retouching). And write to W saying we will never sub to them if they force celebs to take the defensive for their publication.
- Heather
Love how soulful your expression is in this pic.
- Spidra Webster
love your face in this pic. it says it all!
- Mary Carmen
*last gulp* ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Thinking to make that with the last of my pop was without a doubt one of the best brain waves I ever had. That's right up there with chocolate meets peanut butter.
- Kamilah Gill
If those ingredients can be found within metro Atlanta, I'm going to try one just because of the glassy eyed look of affection in your photo:)
- Roney Smith
All I can say is that after the fast, there is always something to look forward to. ;) That does sound absolutely wonderful! Will try. What do you think of adding some rum?
- Melanie Reed
This one was non-alcoholic, believe it or not. Rum might be fine in it, Melanie, but I'm not the best person to ask since I rarely drink. I mostly just have wine every once in a while.
- Kamilah Gill
Kamilah, same. But at Christmas time, I usually make rum balls (sans this year) and like to have a cap in my eggnog. Your recipe would be amazing with it I think. (I use spiced rum for the candy as it turns out better)
- Melanie Reed
YUM - one of my faves is coffee ice cream with cream soda... ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
That sounds pretty awesome, too, Robyn...
- Kamilah Gill
I thought I'd get this in early else I'll forget or run out of time. I have 4 more days of work before I'm off until 2010. I hope the 4 days go by very quickly, hehe. :-) What is everyone's plans for the holiday season?
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
My brother will be around for Xmas morning then a panto on the Sunday. Apart from that it will be a quiet one, which I kinda like. I hope we get more snow so I get a chance to go out and do some long overdue photography. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Merry Christmas, Kol! I'm hoping for some snow & a quiet holiday. What we have is rain, and we'll probably go out and get drunk. (Well, I don't really get drunk, but all this noise.. :)
- Citronella
Never seen a panto, but i hear they are absolutely hilarious... any celebrities in yours?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I can't believe people do this (actually, I can, I just wish I couldn't) ... our beautiful cat was 5mths old (she's 9 now) when we adopted her from a shelter, and she had had her tail broken and appeared to have been kicked (very hard) in the rear legs and has a permanent disability as a result. Who the hell does that? Sad.
- Penny
Beautiful! Fantastic costume! Did your wife, Johnny, make the costume? (For a moment I confused you with Josh) Sorry! ;) Is she going to be in a ballet?
- Melanie Reed
We got it at our local department store. We had out annual Xmas carols on the weekend and this is what she wore
- Johnny Worthington
That is so great about the Christmas carols! And you have some department store: haven't seen anything as nice for little girls here. :)
- Melanie Reed
She is so adorable... I'm back in my `I want a daughter, I must be a father` thoughts... :)
- meric| zalambOdOnt |kara
Always in my"'want to be mother" thoughts. This is just an encouragement. ;)
- Melanie Reed
"Never mind the best books, comics, movies or TV shows of the last ten years, which new character made the biggest impact in your hearts and minds? We want to know what you think, and I have my own suggestions... In this era of franchises based on pre-existing... well, franchises, really, it should be tough for brand new characters to make any significant impression, but I feel like we've been spoiled for choice in some ways; beyond the five mentioned below, I could've also gone for Y The Last Man's Yorick Brown, Scott Pilgrim's Kim Pine (Because, really, it's all about Kim. Admit it), Fringe's Walter Bishop or Dollhouse's Adelle DeWitt, to name just a few more. I'm not talking about the most important characters of the last ten years, or even the most popular, please understand; this is purely a (selfish and subjective) question of quality, for once. These, however, are my top 5:" Benjamin Linus, Thaddeus S. "Rusty" Venture, Gaius Baltar, Donna Noble and Kate Kane/Batwoman
- RAPatton
"Benjamin Linus Color me one of those people who drifted in and out of Lost throughout the first two seasons of the show... Well, until Ben entered the picture. Michael Emerson's smarmy, knowing performance as "Henry Gale" brought something that the show had needed since the beginning: A Bad Guy. Or, at least, someone who we didn't know much about, but were pretty sure we shouldn't be...
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- RAPatton
"Gaius Baltar And talking of people you can't rely on, Battlestar Galactica's Baltar may have been chosen by God/The Gods/Some Higher Power/Ronald D. Moore to lead humanity towards its new home, along the way discovering a spiritual side, falling in love and growing as a human being, but that wasn't why we loved him so much. No, with Baltar, it was all about the weasel. Whether he was...
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- RAPatton
"Kate Kane/Batwoman Still relatively new, there's something fascinating about DC Comics' latest Batman spin-off. Under writer Greg Rucka's control - and, given her few appearances elsewhere, only under Rucka's control - Kate Kane is at once a reminder of, and refusal of, Bat-cliches. Yes, she was born of family tragedy, but her response wasn't to focus her entire life towards justice,...
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- RAPatton
Good choices, but I agree that Locke from LOST was top 5. Then I thought, considering recent events, when Locke died, the new Locke that appears on the island isn't Locke at all, its the person (or spirit or whatever) from the flashback talking to Jacob. So Locke wasn't Locke at all (LOST makes my brain hurt.)
- echostreamer
If we just assume Benjamin Linus takes the cake (which he does... then tosses it back in your face with a grenade), I vote for Walter Bishop... he makes that Fringe show so *special*.
- Adrian
I rewatched Serenity recently and was struck by this exact pondering whenever Chiwetel Ejiofor as "The Operative" came on screen. The only thing missing to meld him with the Firefly series better would have been giving him blue hands. Not sure why they didn't do that. Regardless, that character is a force that dominates every scene.
- Michael W. May
I was thinking the same thing watching Serenity. Ever see him in "Dirty Pretty Things"? Now that's a great movie and great character.
- Adrian
Dirty Pretty Things was the one about the kidney black market hotel, right? I recall only seeing it and having a heavy heart after seeing it. It was during a not good brain time *chuckle*
- Michael W. May
Yep, that's the one, where he played the African immigrant in England. Eh... give it another chance. I get like that too.
- Adrian
Just watched Fringe, Dr. Bishop could be on the list, but the show is........needs to evolve a little before its considered a great sci-fi show. #myopinion
- echostreamer
Both Locke and Benjamin Linus are great characters (and I realize what I09's wheelhouse is) but I think, for me, the greatest character of the decade was Omar from The Wire.
- Jason Toney
Benjamin Linus hands down, but Captain Jack Harness is a close second. >:P
- Molly, "sorry"
I also think Dr. Girlfriend and the Monarch (not to mention Brock) are way more interesting, iconic, whatever characters from the Venture Bros, not Rusty. And that also means we should be adding Master Shake to this list as I'd put him ahead of all adult swim characters in this decade.
- Jason Toney
I tend to take a view that double digit sub-zero temps are actually desirable and to be envied by the rest of mankind :P
- Itachi
double digit sub-zero temps? i respect them, but envy, HELL NO! Any place where they have to scroll across the bottom of your tv that you can only remain outside for less than an hour before frostbite begins just aint the right place to be living, :O
- chaz2b
=( I HAZ A SORRY!!! I've been in a rather Grinchy mood the past week or so, plus I've been trying to wrap up the family drama before Christmas gets here. Otherwise I'm facing the prospect of three family Christmas-es rather than the normal two, and I don't know if my brain can handle that right now...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No need to apologize. We miss you. I have been a bit absent amidst my job searchings. It has been a bit difficult to find that Holiday spirit and cheer. But I persevered and did. Hope that both of you are well.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I miss her, too! I was just thinking about her yesterday.
- Rochelle
Well, there's the job search thing (which is demoralizing and dragging on forever and takes hours every day), plus the Christmas thing (which isn't as much fun when I don't have the funds to go find niftiness for my family), plus the family drama thing (which has the potential of just thoroughly trashing the holiday season). All in all I've been in about the worst possible mood and have just been stewing in my own misery for the past week or so. I'm trying to dig out of it, though... 2009 cannot win!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina I think Donuts and Coffee are in order. What are you doing tomorrow AM?
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Actually, I'm going to be on an interview call of sorts tomorrow morning, Gunny.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hear Hear, WoH. Hi, Tina. Sorry you're feeling Grinchy, but so understandable. ((Tina))
- Micah Wittman
Sorry you're having traumas, Tina. I hope it all resolves itself so you have a peaceful Christmas - we'll be waiting here with the LOLcats and funnies :)
- WorldofHiglet
FriendFeed should be faster again. We were had some network issues which caused a lot of slowness this past week, but I think it's fixed now. Let me know if you are still encountering any extreme slowness.
Mainly just had problems with email posting and the bookmarklet. The rest seemed fairly okay.
- Jason Huebel
I've been told that I'm extremely slow much of the time, but I don't think that's what you meant. Thanks for taking care of the issue, Paul.
- Jim Is Not Smart
Meanwhile, Dad's kids with his new wife get what kind of toys?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, FriendFeed users have no reason to complain about our toys. And even if we did, bitterness doesn't help.
- Bruce Lewis
FriendFeed is dying for me. In fact. it's just about gone. I use it as a control room and discussion space for my Twitter feed, and a searchable archive. Discussion threads are down about 80 percent. "Likes" are off about 90 percent. There's no real time feed in from Twitter any more. Sad.
- Jay Rosen
Agreed, Jay. My personal life is in a bit of an upheaval right now, which hasn't helped, but the FB acquisition took the wind out of the sails for me. It feels like there's no future, or worse, a future wired up to the "friending" criteria of my Facebook account. I use the services COMPLETELY differently, however. Inbound updates continue, since they're automatic, but this is the first comment I've posted in weeks. Sad, indeed.
- Ken Kennedy
I am using Twitter and FB more and more lately. On the plus side, it's strengthening some real world connections. I'm missing out on the cool new stuff but I think I had gone overboard on that front.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I like FriendFeed, but I happen to find myself using Twitter and IRC more as of late. I guess I've probably just burnt myself and others out, given that I don't seem to have much in the way of compelling content and commentary these days, and that I just don't feel as motivated as I'd like to. :(
- Tyson Key
Thanks for throwing some love over to FF :)
- Susan Beebe
Is there currently an issue with posting from FF to update Facebook -or is Facebook broken after the re-design ? i dont get anything posted to FB anymore which worked fine before yd
- Del_
Hi Paul, I know it has been a while since this post. But over the last 48 hours my Twitter updates have quit showing up in FF. I tried manually refreshing. Then I removed the account so I could just add it back in. When trying to do that I get the following message: "We could not find the given account" I haven't changed anything. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I haven't had any trouble until now. Thanks.
- Mary-Lynn
My Twitter feed is coming into FF much faster now - thanks! *Edit - Blog feed, too!
- Kurt Starnes
Heather presents the following idea for your consideration: If something is a physical, literal fact, then it isn't doctrine. Doctrine is for what we cannot *know*, as human beings in this world; doctrine is the tradition of what we *believe*, what we trust in, what we stake our souls on.
Along the same lines, heresy (defined as an idea that is contrary to orthodox doctrine) is not an error in something that is literally, physically, factually knowable. Heresy is an error in belief. And this is what makes heresy such a threatening thing. Neither the doctrine nor the heresy can be proven -- in this world -- to be literally, factually real.
- Ladybug Heather
Created and deleted 2 comments on this so far... I think I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.
- Chrimmus Tad
Saying that you're going to keep your mouth shut isn't the same as keeping your mouth shut. You're still saying something, only in a passive-aggressive way. HA HA SCHOOLED YOU, TAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Akiva Moskovitz
That's kind of a bummer, Tad. I was actually looking forward to some discussion on this one. My novice class has been discussing the concept of heresy for a few weeks now. As Dominicans, it's an important concept for us to come to terms with, and some of us have had an easier time than others.
- Ladybug Heather
Heather, I'm going to disagree from a biblical standpoint. Romans 6:17 talks about "doctrine (in the KJV)" as a "form" that we are committed to or obey. The greek word for "form" is τύπος (tupos #5179) and means example or pattern and is associated with metalcraft. We pour metal into a form (or die) to give it a specific shape with clearly defined boundaries. Doctrine is knowable, and HAS to be.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Okay, Jeremy, then let's try one. One element of Christian doctrine is that Jesus was both fully human and fully divine. How do we know this? [As opposed to believing it, trusting it, having conviction in it, that is.] I do agree, though, that doctrine is about those clearly defined boundaries, which give form and shape to belief.
- Ladybug Heather
"Know" as in provable with physical evidence that can be perceived with the five physical senses?
- Victor Ganata
Do you know that George Washington was the first U.S. President?
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I've been told he was, Jeremy, by people who've read books that say he was. But I never saw him do anything that would support that belief. It was a long, long time ago. People could just be making up stories.
- Ken Sheppardson
Therefore to say that "George Washington was the first president of the United States" is not fact; but popular opinion?
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Seems to me one of the core problems is each person has a different threshold of evidence they consider to be necessary to establish something as a "fact".
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd counter that the greatest problem is the consistency with which they apply the threshold.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I've come to accept the idea that "history is a set of lies agreed upon." Even George Washington has myths attached to him, like the whole thing about the cherry tree. But sometimes all we have to rely upon are convenient fictions that everyone else seems to believe as well.
- Victor Ganata
In any case, to me, facts are things I can easily test, and when I test them, I get the same result each and every time. If I let go of my pen, it will drop to the floor. If I bang my head against the desk hard, it will cause me pain. Once you've entered the realm of the untestable, all I'm left with is belief.
- Victor Ganata
There's plenty of doctrine that people don't "stake [their] souls on." That seems a peculiar addition to the definition.
- Christopher A Carr
Well, we're specifically talking about Catholicism/Christianity, no? Not just doctrine in general.
- Victor Ganata
It may be different in other denominations, but Catholic doctrines (and dogmas) are teachings that must be accepted by all the faithful; that is, they are not open for debate or discussion. In this sense, they must be accepted as true belief. I'd argue most, if not all, are warranted or justified as well, which would make them candidates for knowledge, and in that, they are considered...
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- Mark Trapp
I actually consider heresy to mean more- going against the doctrine or system of belief.
- anna sauce
It's important to realize most religious teaching comes from a different place than scientific, relativistic, or skeptic teaching. Whereas a skeptic might say it's hard or impossible to know what's true, or a relativist might say it's all true, or a scientist says they can only know what's empirically true, religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions, purport that there are actual...
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- Mark Trapp
Anna; like I said, it may be different for other denominations, but for Catholics, heresy has a very specific meaning. As defined by the Catechism, "Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith." While I don't deny someone being actively against the Church might be a heretic, heresy occurs only when someone who ought...
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- Mark Trapp
But as for the distinction between doctrine and physical fact. As far as I can tell, only one of them is considered divinely-inspired. You don't have to believe in the law of gravity to be faithful.
- Victor Ganata
I think adding the word fact and law to a discussion about doctrine's difference from science confuses the issue. The difference between a scientific conclusion and a doctrine is a level of commitment. Science aims to discover what is empirically knowable: that is, if I can prove something via a hypothesis and experiment, that is the domain of science. Things outside that framework are...
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- Mark Trapp
Doctrine, on the other hand, makes a claim to truth beyond any conditionals. In all possible worlds, in all possible situations, statements of doctrine are true. Even if we are brains in a vat, or science turns out to be wrong, or if someone were deceiving us. While the basis for that claim might be divinely inspired, it's not necessarily the case.
- Mark Trapp
Doctrine and dogma have to be sanctioned by the hierarchy of the Church, though--even if God were to personally reveal to me some infallible truth about the universe, that wouldn't be doctrine, much less dogma.
- Victor Ganata
That's not true, at least not in the framework of Catholicism. The Church is God's current presence on Earth. They answer to Him; God is not subject to Ecclesiastical review. In your scenario, there are only two options: either you're mistaken that God revealed something to you, or the Church has been mistaken. The Church has no authority to teach doctrine outside of what is actually...
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- Mark Trapp
To elaborate, God can't logically contradict Himself and He's infallible. If He tells the Church X is true, there's no chance He's going to tell you X is false as well. Either you were mistaken or the Church was mistaken when God revealed the truth. Since the Church is based upon God Himself revealing specific truths to them, there isn't a scenario in which He would reveal separate,...
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- Mark Trapp
This whole conversation was confusing to me because when I hear 'doctrine' I think of the legal or political sense. They're litmus tests and decision gates. The 'Monroe Doctrine' and the 'Bush Doctrine' are policy statements about what is and is not acceptable. It's neither truth nor dogma, but rather a set of principles. The legal form of doctrine is a lot more like 'litmus test'. It can be a set of conditions which determine the applicability of a law.
- Kevin Fox
I actually didn't mean a truth that was incompatible with the doctrines of the Church, but a specific truth that isn't already covered in the catechism. Just because something is true--even if it's divinely inspired--doesn't necessarily make it doctrine. I guess, from a Catholic perspective, the difference between mere fact and doctrine is that doctrine is a necessary truth.
- Victor Ganata
Kevin: in that sense, the two uses are the same. A Christian doctrine is a litmus test for the faithful: in order to be a Christian, you must believe Church doctrine. It is not acceptable for a Christian to deny those doctrines: if that occurs, they're considered a heretic or an apostate. I guess the difference comes from the domain of the doctrine: political doctrines cover policies or interests; religious doctrines cover facts about the world.
- Mark Trapp
Victor: doctrines are statements of matters of fact in the way other matters of fact are. There isn't a religious world where religious doctrines are true and a real world where other things like science are true. Doctrine talks about this world and any other possible world. So, when God reveals a truth, it's true, regardless if a body recognizes it, and Christians must follow the word...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark: for the sake of this discussion I'm not at all arguing that scientific truth and doctrine are different kinds of facts. What I'm saying is that in the same way that dogma is a subset of doctrine, doctrine is a subset of fact. There are lots of true things that the catechism doesn't discuss at all, it doesn't make those things not true, and believing in things that aren't doctrine doesn't negate your faith, either.
- Victor Ganata
This discussion got really fun while I wasn't looking! :-) I wasn't specifically intending to discuss orthodox Christian doctrine, but obviously that's where I come from. There are orthodox Islamic doctrine, orthodox Jewish doctrine, and I'm sure other types as well. Though they'll deny it, there are in fact neo-pagans who hold a pretty rigidly defined set of orthodox doctrine; I don't think that this is necessarily a bad thing, just making the observation that it exists.
- Ladybug Heather
That said, much of what comprises orthodox Christian doctrine (at least, the essentials of Christian doctrine on which almost all committed Christians would agree) is unknowable in this world. The nature of God as Trinity, for example. We have little, if any, evidence that God exists and relates to us as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- and this is the key part -- and ONLY as Father,...
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- Ladybug Heather
So this is why the Trinity has to be part of doctrine -- and why this concept was (and still is) bitterly argued for many years. A faithful Christian can accept the doctrine of the Trinity and the mystery of it, realizing that she or he really can't understand or really know the reality behind it... in this world. Our faith tells us that all truth (and Truth) will be revealed in the next world.
- Ladybug Heather
Going back to Jeremy: similar to your question about George Washington, how do you know that Obama is the current President of the United States? We know based on our own experience and based on evidence that comes from others. I know that Obama is President because of the overwhelming evidence backing up this fact. I'm sufficiently satisfied with the evidence for GW being our first President to feel comfortable saying that I know this as a fact.
- Ladybug Heather
On the dual natures of Jesus, I don't know that scripture presents enough evidence to say that I KNOW Jesus to have been *fully* human and *fully* divine. That, of course, gets into definitions. What does it mean to be "fully human"? Do we see all of those aspects of Jesus in scripture? What does it mean to be "fully divine"? Do we see all of those? Is there other evidence that we may...
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- Ladybug Heather
Just one note if he is the one with the http://twitter.com/johnwor... with no photo, he has no basis of understanding and doesn't even know how to utilize it, much less pass judgement. If he isn't and has an account that was utilized then it's more relevant. So many people want to be social media experts and claim they are and yet they lack the experience or understanding. So it's irrelevant, though his face to face less than 20% of his Facebook Friends use Twitter.
- James Stratford
Hrm. That kinda illustrates the whole point, James. Friendfeed is the perfect example. So many posts have been written about it by people that hadn't a clue. Others saw these sources as authorities on the subject and believed whatever was said. Experience and understanding is relative. Johnny is spot on here :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
utter utter nonsense Johnny you're out of touch
- Thomas Power
...liked the rant on the strength of this gem alone: "...[m]y space may be a bath tub in a sea of fact..." a clever turn of phrase, and an unintended diss of MySpace as well. kill two birds. +1^100
- .LAG liked that
I agree with Johnny. The mere cost of generating enough followers and building yourself up to be a 'trust agent' a la Chris Broggan far exceeds any business value that can be derived. Here is the test -- how many tweets do you actually read? I'll bet you'll say those on your preferred lists, perhaps 20 people. The other tens of thousands go unheard. Now scale that. Twitter is dead as a social and especially business social medium.
- Doug Wolfgram
James, two things... I have a photo (I photoshopped the FriendFeed DoubleFs inside the Twitter no photo avatar) and I have over 30 saved searchs on all the topics I want to read about. I use Twitter very well, I just don't go around telling everyone just how shit hot I am at it...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Rock on Johnny.. rock on!! and I agree.. 95% of my friends are on facebook and could care less about twitter. That doesn't mean I don't find some value.. but it's awkward and difficult to explain the value to non believers.. facebook doesn't require an explanation or a value sell!!
- Chris Myles
I stood up in front of an audience of 1,000 tech geeks and developers 2 months ago and had the exact same response.
- Jesse Stay
I find it funny that James even found this post on FriendFeed, since he doesn't seem to spend a lot of time here (has a lot of subscribers though, which is interesting). I understand the sentiment of being sick of self-proclaimed social media experts, but also entertained that he bashes Johnny of all people. Johnny may not be a social media expert but that's mainly because he just finds...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Twitter's not dead, considering it's now appearing at the top of Google search results. Considering the 3rd party app store getting a new round of funding. Considering it's a serious target for hackers. I don't particularly care for Twitter myself, but it's very much alive.
- Raphael, Raphael
Raphael, before that, FriendFeed got top billing in Google... Things change
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
:D YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!!! Thanks, Kamilah!
- Josh Haley
Great likeness Kamilah... *stage whispers*... the lady is really pretty... the man is kinda scary lookin' in a Dexter sorta way....
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
I know... that's just the expression he had on his face, though. I tried to de-scary-fy him a bit. I think I'd need more paper space to get it right. This drawing is just so small. You're welcome, Josh
- Kamilah Gill
Hi Kamilah! He can be scary, yes. :) The thing about Bill Murray... I don't find him attractive at all. Jim Belushi is a better comparison and he gave us the movie line, "Grace, I got it. Grace." Which we use a LOT. This picture was taken on a very hot day. We are melting. I love that you got the plant in the background. :) Thanks!
- Trish Haley
Glad you like it, Trish. That's a very nice, well-composed photo
- Kamilah Gill
Way to step it up, there CW! Thanks! Thanks, joey. I really like this pic, too. :)
- Josh Haley
btw, Trish is still asleep. She and I (mostly she) were up almost all night with sick baby Zoe, who wouldn't stop crying. Trish is the best. THE BEST, I TELL YA!
- Josh Haley
Happy 15th Josh and Trish. You guys are the best couple I know (other than Mom and Dad....and Tom and Katie....and Ren and Stimpy). Congrats to you both! Good job raising 4 great kids too!
- Morgan Haley
well, 3rd best actually, when you count dad and the groom....well, maybe 5th best when you throw in some of the other guys....but i was skinny and had long hair, which was nich.
- Morgan Haley
or nice, if you are a stickler for spelling....
- Morgan Haley
and isn't it quicker to type '2' thank <3'?
- Morgan Haley
I'm awake! Laughs and good times, indeed... Zoe seems fine this morning with none of the tearful monster in sight. Thanks for all the congrats. Josh is still cute after 15 years and will be in 15 more. I love you, Honey!
- Trish Haley
from iPhone
Josh - what's that stuff on your head? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Caption this photo time! Josh: Dude, take the picture....Trish: I need to make toffee brittle and send some to Morgan! Happy 15th you kids!
- Morgan Haley
Dude, you were kind of a badass back in the day with your Hawaiian print and Jurassic Park cup. What happened? ;-)
- Jason Huebel
Still got the Hawaiian print and the movie-themed cups.
- Josh Haley
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! We're only a couple of years behind you (our 13th was last month). We'll catch up eventually, though. ;-)
- Jason Huebel
You two are such an amazing couple -- and who in the world is that smokin' hot dude on the left! ;)
- Mona Nomura
Ha! That's the dude I had to fight and kill to win over Trish. ;) Thanks, Mona
- Josh Haley
You and Trish give me hope that there is such a thing as happily ever afters :) All you need is a sense of humor and tons of love. Thanks for sharing your lives with us and happy anniversary!
- Mona Nomura
what's amazing is that they really are happy. like clams. like really happy clams. and it's pure joy silly happiness. this couple, along with their wonderful 4 kids, are proof that this world isn't doomed yet. i am lucky to be linked to these clowns. keep it up josh and trish. show the world that it really will be ok in the end. much love. and tell the kids that uncle morgan says 'shut up!'.
- Morgan Haley
Everyone has hope. And Lennon was right: All You Need is Love! (And persistence and a minivan and ear-plugs and a huge grocery budget...etc.)
- Josh Haley
By Josh's response........... I feel like I have been lead astray by this translation site...
- Johnny Worthington
No, it's all good. You said "Bottoms up" which I will admit, I don't hear very often even in English. But `okole is an automatic laugh word for me, since it means BUTT, BOTTOM, REAR, ASS. *giggle*
- Josh Haley
To Josh-n-Trish, Happy Anniversary, you crazy kids! <3
- Micah Wittman
We are having Sonic blasts now. It's cold enough that the perishables in the back will last. FYI Morgan, the ingredients for toffee butter crunch are in the back, too. You deserve a million bucks, but you'll have to settle for yummy candy. Thanks all!
- Trish Haley
from iPhone
Definitely ... too bad I don't know anybody famous.
- Brian Sullivan
When you give examples or tell a story, do you try to weave in famous people that you've met?
- Cristo
Brian, you must not be trying very hard then.
- Cristo
No, hell no, and definitely not. I know a handful but go out of my way to ensure their privacy is not violated. A big step is not bragging about knowing them. Besides, I feel most are better off because THEY know ME! :)
- jcunwired
Do you trust someone more because they say that so-and-so famous person told them something? E.g. As I was sitting next to Rep. X on the plane they said that the FCC is going to make Twitter the official US micro-blogging service.
- Cristo
I think getting to meet and/or hang with rich/famous people gave me an opportunity to get a perspective on what really matters (to me), so, in that sense, I think I've gained something as the result.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I wouldn't personally know. But knowing people from FF has made me a better person.
- Morgan Haley
Rodfather, the person who knows famous people, or the particular famous person?
- Cristo
Not a goal to meet them, but I'm related to a semi-famous person so sometimes I talk about him, but definitely not a goal.
- Jimminy Fuller
Famous people, no. Interesting people, yes. Some of the interesting people I've met happen to be famous, but that's not what I have usually found interesting about them. I've taken things away from those meetings that have made me a better person.
- Jennifer Dittrich
It depends on the person. And how much you let someone influence you. But I'd have the same answer if you removed the word "famous."
- Lo
Do you like to read blogs where the blogger is constantly talking about all the famous people they've met, as if that makes him an authority on everything?
- Cristo
If it was an entertainment blog, maybe.
- Rodfather
What about a technical & social media blog?
- Cristo
If the famous person has access and knowledge of pre-released products, maybe. Angelina Jolie had one of the Palm Pre test devices. If the blogger got some inside scoop on that at the time, then I would probably read it.
- Rodfather
I think knowing exceptional people makes one a better person. Doesn't matter if they are famous.
- Alex Scoble
It certainly hasn't made me one. A lot of them are really quite normal to tell you the truth.
- Itachi
Famous people are famous because of all the non-famous people who know them, right? It's only human nature to brag. Or so my good friends Tom Hanks and Albert Einstein say.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
Only being a better person can make you a better person, and we each bear sole responsibility for our quality in humanity. Internet fame is better than "proper" fame because it ends when it's supposed to :-)
- Slappy Line
Somerimes Its good for me to talk to someboby rich or powerful or famous because I find out they have problems too, sometimes same as mine sometimes different but just enough so that money, fame and power didn't solve it all. This forces me to quit whining and man up. Of course visiting hospital has a very similar function ;)
- WarLord
The only reason I wish I knew someone rich and famous is to get into a suite at the football game Sunday and the bowl game on the 27th instead of sitting in the cold. Other than that, I don't really care.
- Alan Simpson
Alan, thanks. You reminded me there is football on tonight. :)
- Cristo
If you can learn something from "famous" then it will make you a better person but that can be said for any person. It all depends upon that famous person.
- ashish
I think Mona is the only one getting this. :)
- Cristo
Not a better person but more interesting at dinner. Especially if you slept with Tiger Woods. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
it can change your social status but it is ethically irrelevant
- barbarars
I AM famous. Y'all betta rekonize up in here. Holla at me in the VIP section.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I run into Burning Buildings and have done CPR on more dead people than most of you have seen "LIVE" people ,, does that make me a HERO ,, of course not ...
- johnpiercy
Robert, did you sleep with Tiger Woods? It doesn't seem like that exclusive of a club lately. ;)
- Cristo
Cristo: I slept with a Tiger, but I don't think I slept with THAT Tiger! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Prolly not but it can give an interesting perspective on things. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Does knowing not-famous people make famous people better persons?
- shubho sengupta
Who said the FriendFeed team wasn't working on new updates to FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
Hey Benjamin, do these go out as actual status updates on Facebook, or do they just get added to the stream (via stream.publish)? I think that makes a big difference on whether I install this or not (I removed Twitter awhile back because it was overwhelming my friends). Another option, which I know isn't available via the API yet, would be to set a preference on which friends or friend lists see the status updates. Then it wouldn't matter.
- Jesse Stay
stream.publish is used for all the API calls. Status updates (FriendFeed entries not made via the bookmarklet, Twitter entries, Google Talk, etc.) become status updates on Facebook. Things that aren't status updates (Google Reader shares, the bookmarklet, etc.) also use stream.publish but without the "message" parameter, just a link attachment (and thus aren't status updates on Facebook). Anything with images will have media attached as well
- Benjamin Golub
For make benefit glorious facebookistan.
- EricaJoy
Benjamin, any plans to enable the bookmarklet to update the Facebook status?
- Louis Gray
Louis: since the bookmarklet implies you are sharing a link, no. It still will be published to Facebook, just not as a status update :)
- Benjamin Golub
Sorry :). The "message" part of a status update is supposed to be the user's words. Most of the time when you are using the bookmarklet it's just the page's title. A work around is to just visit friendfeed.com and copy/paste the URL along with whatever you want as your status. That will become a Facebook status update.
- Benjamin Golub
I wish FriendFeed had a backwards compatible way for me to upload photos and share them. Their photo uploader thingy won't work through a proxy, so I can't share photos here. :(
- Otto
Something I am confused about is exactly which services will and will not be status updates. There are some that I would prefer not to become facebook status updates and some I am cool with. I am not cool with my twitter @replies becoming status updates, nor am I cool with things like Disqus or Backtype becoming one. Do you plan on adding some sort of preferences for users to be able to fine tune this?
- April Russo (app103)
agree with april would love to see some way that my @reply messages on twitter do not become my status messages on facebook
- (jeff)isageek
April: basically things that don't have a link (unless the link is *in* the message) are status updates. For example if you typed "check this out" and put a link in the box and hit post that is a status update. But if you shared using Google Reader or have a feed setup to pull in your blog posts those are not status updates.
- Benjamin Golub
OK, got it. Still would like to see some preferences similar to what is currently available for posting updates to twitter, to fine tune this and filter out @replies. I am likely to make all my friends and family on facebook quite angry if they start seeing all the fragmented conversations from twitter.
- April Russo (app103)
Sorry for Cross-Post but Ben seems active in answering here. So, currently today I have FriendFeed posts in a Tab and a Box in FB but not update my status info or post on my wall. Do I understand correct that I will no longer be able to sync in this way? That's truly a shame if that is the case, I do not want to flood my friends in FB with the stuff I post elsewhere, it's not fair to them.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Dude, I found that one out the hard way a couple weeks ago. It's total poo. Even after I removed my FB data from my FriendFeed, everything I did on the Internet kept dumping into my Facebook news feed. Acquisition fail?
- Jolie O'Dell
Thank you guys! I'm stoked :D The credit goes to my mum and her friend though ... they spent a long time in planning and decorating my two windows :)
- Penny
Told someone today, who isn't from Texas, that I ordered tamales for Christmas Eve. Their response was surprising: "Why in the world would anyone have tamales for Christmas?" It's interesting to see different ways people celebrate in other areas. We have tamales on Christmas Eve and a big family dinner on Christmas Day.
Good tamales are very good. Not that they're traditional xmas fare for my LA family. I'd probably be more into some really good beef enchiladas for xmas.
- Spidra Webster
My mom almost always hosted Thanksgiving and/or Christmas for the relatives. One Christmas she decided to change things up and did a Mexican dinner with enchiladas and tacos and a whole bunch of other stuff (no tamales, though, dangit). Everyone devoured it, but complained that they still wanted a "traditional" meal.
- vicster is...
Right around the corner, in Marina del Rey, are some of the best tamales you can buy at Tamara's. The best tamales you can eat are the ones you make with friends/family.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Tamales are traditional here. When I was younger, I used to go to tamale making parties. I'm so used to seeing tamales on had tables that's always shocking when I run into people in LA that don't have them. On the flip, my Jewish neighbors in my old place always had Chinese food.
- Admiral Anika
Ritual is pretty important to a lot of people. There's just something about having certain foods to mark certain times of year...
- Spidra Webster
Josh, there's a great place near you that makes AWESOME tamales. You should try them. Spidra, we have a very casual Christmas eve, opening presents, just hanging out, so maybe that's why. The more formal celebration is the next day for our family.
- Trish R
A Christmas tradition could be anything. If your parents raised you on Xmas dinners of tamales, that would be traditional for you. My family has never had a traditional Xmas meal. That is, they've never stuck with any set menu. Whereas Thanksgiving menu is locked in. My mom makes a traditional kind of breakfast roll for Xmas and Easter breakfasts, though.
- Spidra Webster
Those Tamale things look interesting. When we lived on the mainland we would usually have a cold Christmas (salad, cold meats, potatoes etc) because it would be so warm.
- Bryce Roney
Bryce, wish I could send you and Mo some to try. They're awesome!
- Trish R
Hee. I never heard of that tradition until I moved to Austin. I order some every year from my friend's grandmother.
- Cheryl
Where are these poor, tamale-less backwaters? ;-) One can find tamales in Beijing, of all places.
- Christopher A Carr
Your response should have been: Because not everyone eats the same damn food for Christmas? Ughhh people kill me. It's just like it's a Panamanian tradition to eat pork for New Years dinner.
- Shevonne
Joel's family always makes tamales for Christmas, it's a huge tradition for them.
- Michelle Martinez
It all sounds good and is purely based upon traditions. I may be a yankee, but Tamales are always good and would fit in well with Christmas. Some Enchiladas and other items would add a nice selection.
- James Stratford
I go to my sister Vicky's house and we have mostly Italian and lots of desserts.........and sometimes on Christmas I have Chinese food ......
- VAL D. Zone
My Giftmas tradition includes cookies for breakfast (only day of the year that was ever allowed) and an enormous lasagna for dinner that is about 4x the size of a standard one. There is another tradition for New Year's Eve that includes homemade pizza baked in a 30+ year old electric tabletop pizza cooker handed down to me from my stepmother, who started that tradition when I was a kid.
- April Russo (app103)
that's a southern tradition too shevonne: pork, black-eyed peas or hoppin' john (black eyed peas with rice) and greens -- mustard, turnip, or collard -- on new year's day.
- tiffany
The Mexican market near work were taking pre-orders for holiday tamales.
- Rodfather
I shall endeavor to spread this holiday tamales idea up here in the NW.
- Christopher A Carr
We're planning on having tamales, it's our Mexican tradition!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from iPhone
Here in Appalachia the common treat for Xmas morning is fried oysters. Not sure why, but since I like oysters I'll stick with local tradition (when I can remember to order them - they go quickly!0.
- jcunwired
I think everyone should plan a trip to Texas next year for the holidays and we'll all have homemade tamales!
- Trish R
Never had tamales on Christmas Eve, although I've heard of people having them. We often have homemade lasagna - you know, the kind that is a pain to make but is oh so good.
- Katy S
I miss door-to-door caroling. I haven't lived in a neighborhood safe enough to do it for many years.
- Spidra Webster
A friend of mine and I used to go caroling every Halloween.
- Mistletoe Glen
I wish I still had the issue of Dynamite magazine that had Halloween carols in it. "Deck the halls with balls of cotton, 'tis the season to be rotten"
- Spidra Webster
Remember how you were telling Rochelle she needed a digital mezuzah? Do you have an analog one?
- Spidra Webster
I think we had carolers once. It was quaint.
- Lis Miller
usually performers appreciate applause, though hiding in the shadows is considered a compliment at the milford academy
- Mike Chelen
I'm Catholic and have no idea what you're supposed to do. I'd imagine, go out and greet them? Introduce? Get to know neighbors and all that? But that's just speculation. I'm not sure if that would piss off Carolers, by delaying them from the next house and making them stop singing.....
- Matthew DeVries
I figured it was a church group and thought they probably left church literature on the porch so when they were gone, I went out to check. No literature, just a package of what I'm guessing is brownies. Who wants to eat them and see what happens?
- Rochelle
Around here, people open their door and stand outside and listen, then clap or thank them when they're done.
- Trish R
Tell them you're Jewish and that Jesus wasn't a real Messiah. ;-) They won't come back.
- Jason Huebel
Actually, I don't think we've ever had carolers. Maybe at the mall they had some people caroling over by the big clock. But that's not the same. They're supposed to come to you. Isn't that what they're paid for? *someone whispers in my ear* What? They don't get paid? Then what are they doing out in the cold? Silly people.
- Jason Huebel
cauldron of hot oil - don't stay home without it.
- Morgan Haley
He warmed up to the outfit once he had his shoes on and got to wear the Santa hat. His biggest issue was that the sweater didn't cover his arms. He thought it was broken. =)
- Admiral Anika
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