You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Franc, a rememberer
16GB ~= 2 hours of 19Mbps HD video (i.e. broadcast HD). But I like where you're going with this. :)
- Steve and 4 other people
Consumers can get 64GB flash drive for $35; I bet TiVo could probably get it much lower. No reason to skimp with just 16GB, this isn't 2003.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Could flash, even SLC flash, stand up to the rewrite cycles of a DVR? Wouldn't you be better off with an iPod classic size HD? I really doubt the HD (even with cooling) keeps the box as big as it is.
- Andrew C (✓)
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssd-slc... - SLC rated for 100K write cycles, MLC for 3K write cycles. So back of envelope, 64 GB of flash MLC would be good for 3 years before crapping out if you've got the box recording 24/7, but SLC would last long enough.
- Andrew C (✓)
I have 250GB in my DVRs, and it's not enough. OTOH, high-capacity DVRs are a form of lock-in with the provider (and its antiquated hardware model).
- Tinfoil 2.0
OTOH, everything is available as streaming, so why have any local storage at all?
- Steve and 4 other people
Not legally. Not at any price. And many (most?) people don' have the bandwidth or caps necesary for all-streaming, all the time.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Steve, huh? Who tosses around uncompressed HD? Most HD is closer to a gig an hour.
- Kevin Fox
from iPhone
"uncompressed" HD comes right off the cable or antenna, so TiVo-style. The 1G/hr stuff is what you find on teh internetz. Or, are you thinking "download & play" for this thing?
- Steve and 4 other people
Based on the specs for the TiVo premiere (500 GB, 75 hours of HD advertised), they're running at ~6.7 GB an hour. So 16 GB would give you ~2.4 hours. Probably couldn't get everything you need to transcode to something like h.264/h.265 in a Roku-sized box. It would take forever to do it, too (definitely not on the fly).
- Mark Trapp
The TiVo Stream encodes HD video down to 1.2gigs an hour in realtime. It doesn't take a big box to house and feed an mpeg encoder chip.
- Kevin Fox
The HD video I get off comcast is pretty highly compressed. The only place you'll find uncompressed HD is OTA, which is why the latest TiVos *only* write bytestreams from cablecards, so they don't do any compression themselves.
- Kevin Fox
That's true: I wonder why Tivo advertises such conservative storage capacities, then. If it's as densely packed as the 2nd gen Apple TV, it doesn't look like you'd be able to fit the cable card housing inside a Roku-sized box, but you'd have room to spare in a 1st-gen Apple TV/Mac Mini sized box. Still much smaller than a traditional Tivo/set top box.
- Mark Trapp
True, and instead of onboard flash you could have a microSD card slot like the Roku has. Granted, companies like to get high margins on high capacity boxes, but they could just sell it with 8gb flash and bundle a 64gb microSD for a good amount of storage.
- Kevin Fox
Mostly, I just think the full-sized TiVo isn't a good fit for dorm rooms. It's not bedroom friendly due to size and fan, which is why they made the TiVo Mini, but that's just a slave device to a full TiVo. A small standalone box without a spinning disk or fan is very appealing.
- Kevin Fox
A 1.8" disk might not need a cooling fan.
- Andrew C (✓)
1.8" is interesting. I'd be a little worried about their MTBF if they're always reading and writing, and I'm not sure if you'd get much of a price savings over flash for ~160GB, but it's possible. Heck, Apple still sells 160GB 1.8" HD iPod Classics.
- Kevin Fox
The biggest thing I wonder about this is how to get a cableCARD slot into such a small form factor.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :)
- Benjamin Golub
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images?
- chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help.
- Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;)
- chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately.
- Paul Buchheit
Am I Right or Not time: I was thinking about buying a piece of software for $250. Company's policy (and DRM) restricts it to 2 computers (I have 2 desktops + a laptop which I use regularly).
I wrote customer service twice, and was told, sorry, no exceptions... but you can put it on a USB drive to get around the restriction. So my question, before I include this company in a subsequent rant on my blog: am I being unreasonable in my request and my frustration? Related question: is this type of restriction typical? (two concurrent installs, no exceptions)
- Adam Lasnik
Yes, that's normal. For instance, with Microsoft Office, you can install it on a desktop system and a laptop, but you can't use it on both places at the same time.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The dilemma is -- since this is an information retrieval / organizer type product -- I really want/need it on my home, work, and laptop computers. I apparently can't do this unless I pay for two licenses ($500 instead of $250) or use the lame workaround of a USB key, with which I risk losing my data if I don't back it up all the time. To clarify, I don't want to use the software concurrently, I want it *installed* concurrently (e.g., don't want to have to install/uninstall every day).
- Adam Lasnik
And torque, that's an interesting question. I think it's the principle even more than the money. I believe they're restricting it to two installs to prevent piracy, prevent people from sharing the software with a buddy and splitting the cost. I resent the lack of trust, especially after I wrote a nice note to customer service. I'm used to the honor system with software purchases, though admittedly, most of my purchases have been in the <$100 range the last years
- Adam Lasnik
I've also seen where you have to go through customer service, and if you pass the smell test, they'll give you another license (on the assumption, I guess, that people pirating the software will just bittorrent stuff and won't bother contacting customer support).
- Adam Lasnik
Careful with what you install on your work computer. Software companies frequently have different licensing for applications that are being used "for business."
- EricaJoy
I was actually thinking of a different but related issue, Erica, which is why I didn't plan on putting work-related stuff in the program... which also means that (in good faith) I'd be still using it for personal stuff.
- Adam Lasnik
I dunno, I've bought single licenses that allow for install on a second machine provided it's primarily used only by moi. So your scenario seems like that to me, just with the extra machine. And since you can't, without some really impressive juggling, use all three licenses at once, I don't fully understand why they want to make you buy two. I don't think they'd really be losing money by letting you do what you want.
- Jaemi Kehoe
And in the event that you ever had a FOURTH machine, you might be more likely to buy another license if you were pleased with them.
- Jaemi Kehoe
torque, I'm glad you like this conversation! I really do respect and appreciate the tough decisions that companies have to make when they've invested so much time and money into making a product that many might simply grab without paying for. In fact, while I'd typically shout "remove the DRM, dammit!", I then get jolted into reality when I read about how jerks have pirated even an amazing $20 game by an indie developer http://bit.ly/VQug :\.
- Adam Lasnik
If you do the install on a USB key, why do you have to keep the data on it? You weren't going to put the data on the flash drive if you installed the app on three different hard drives, were you? I would think something happening to the flash drive would lose that installation of the program, not the unique data, itself. Seems to me the solution would be to buy a new USB drive and do a new install.
- MiniMage
Ah, very good point, MiniMage! Hadn't thought of that (I planned to keep the data files on Dropbox). Still, though, would be kinda a pain to always carry around the USB stick, not to mention be constantly plugging it in and out, no?
- Adam Lasnik
Yes, that would be a pain. Do they license server installs? Do you have a server that could serve apps?
- MiniMage
How on earth is a server going to help if the laptop is remote??? And I feel you Adam.
- Roberto Bonini
If the licensing isn't differentiated, a server install could serve two computers at work, and the standalone at home could be the second install. Now, if two computers are remote, I suppose it won't help much; it'd probably be slow as molasses via VPN. Of course, I'm speculating about stuff I don't really know about; I'm just a desktop tech. I use server apps; I don't get to install/support them. That privilege is reserved for people other organizations have trained. :(
- MiniMage
Licenses for similar software are similarly restrictive. The one for OneNote for example can go on 3 computers if you have the Student Edition, right? Lot of software isn't that upfront either; you find out when you activate that you can't take it with you. Honestly, i was happy to see my $250 got me two licenses: that's just 125/install instead of 250/install... TheBrain is well worth it & they've seen there product stolen already so...
- Ruud Hein
It's interesting to ponder how the situation might be different if the software in question were a service (web-based or otherwise). Granted, you'd probably be paying per unit time, but there would be no question of "which" machine it was installed on -- probably just a prohibition on running it simultaneously on a single account. I've never understood why more desktop software vendors don't do that; perhaps just that people are used to paying a single fee for installed software?
- Joel Webber
Ruud, I think that that model isn't going to survive. Young people today aren't (IMHO) buying office, buying PersonalBrain. They're doing everything online, where there are monthly fees (use anywhere) or no fees (directly or indirectly advertiser sponsored). I'm 37, and in all my geekiness and all my software/service experiences, I can't recall a single instance of a program that has such strictly limited installs. iTunes/Rhapsody songs are... 3 or 5 computers? Even even that DRM seems on the way out.
- Adam Lasnik
I just don't think people, especially young people, can even fathom pay-by-install. And Joel, as for pay-per-use-hour, that's an intriguing idea, but IMHO also doomed to failure. For many products, the more use = the more one sees the value = the more evangelism. Pay-by-hour seems like such a relic of the time when computing power / bandwidth was crazy-expensive. In today's multi-tasking world, it'd also be infuriating (how many of us dedicate 100% of our personal CPUs to one web/software app at a time? :P
- Adam Lasnik
Agreed: I think the software-sales model is broke - dot. Subscription is the way to go although in the Evernote forum some discuss how *that* keeps them hostage... I think PB should let me do with the install as I wish -- but failing that I do think they have the right ... and that it's worth it.
- Ruud Hein
I can get two hamburgers for $2.50, should I steal a third one? Seriously Adam, it doesn't really matter if the model is broken or not, if software licensing has a future or not, those are just the restrictions that they have. It's how they have built their licensing system (and software costs money to make :-), especially software that is not used by gazillions of people). Going from...
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- John Mueller
John, normally I respect your brilliance, but I gotta heartily disagree with your analogies and reasoning here. 1) Hamburgers cost per item. Software does not. It would not cost the company any more if I used it on 3 computers instead of 2. In fact, their revenue would increase by possibly $250 ;). 2) I wasn't advocating a move from $ to ads. As I noted, I'm quite happy to pay for software and have done so frequently. 3) I see absolutely no relationship between size of a company and licensing model.
- Adam Lasnik
Actually, hamburgers cost close to nothing per item; It does however cost quite a bit to be able to sell them to you. The thing is, these companies have built their business on being able to sell you a license for a certain number of computers. You might not like that model, but that's the way they are calculating costs, the way they're paying for overhead and the ability to provide the...
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- John Mueller
I used to run a software company so it's something I spent a lot of time on :-). Changing a licensing model is a lot of work and you can't just say $X/2PCs/user is unfair compared to $Y/user or $Z/year. In the end, the overhead (of creating, distributing & supporting the software) has to be paid for just the same -- how it's split up is (simplified) based on marketing. Marketing changes...
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- John Mueller
To clarify, John, while I have to admit to some temptation to bittorrenting in this case, I wasn't seriously planning (and do not plan) to violate the license agreement. Rather, I plan on not further evaluating the software and simply finding an alternative. And despite your arguments, I still think it's a lousy marketing decision, a lousy way to calculate costs. I mean, they could say "People should pay based upon the sum of the letters in their last name" and I'd see that as only slightly less arbitrary.
- Adam Lasnik
This sort of thing makes my head hurt. There was a time, until recently, where My husband and I each had a desktop and a laptop. We like to travel, so we needed some software on our laptops. It was frustrating to run into this situation where we'd have the software on one laptop and one desktop. That meant a lot of switching seats in the office and travel sucked because we'd have to trade off laptop tops to finish our projects. This is one of the reasons we're trending more open source and cloud for our biz
- Anika
I agree, Adam, in your case it sucks and to be honest, in your situation I'd think twice about it too. I don't think there is ever a perfect licensing model. When we sold software for $2000/user, we'd get people who say they're only working part-time and couldn't we give them a discount, etc. Sure, if you're working 30% it seems really unfair to pay the same as someone who's working...
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- John Mueller
I just noticed sharing files through dropbox is not working any more. I used to share free version files through dropbox, but recently found that all the links to pages drag-and-dropped into the app won't save the URL as it used to. And it won't even let you copy-paste the link into the Notes – whatever you posted disappears in a matter of seconds if you're adding it on one computer (at work) and forgot to close it leaving home. Their licensing really sucks.
- earlyadopter
"The bride was Ariel, and the groom dressed as Prince Eric (in their wedding attire naturally). The father of the bride dressed as King Triton (complete with shell crown), the bridesmaids were various Disney Princesses with coordinating bouquets (Snow White had apples in her flowers, while Alice had "Painting the Roses Red flowers); the groomsmen were all dressed as Disney villains (we love their take on Scar), and the decorations are straight out of The Little Mermaid and other various Disney movies. This is, without a doubt, the most impressive Disney wedding we have ever seen. Wow."
- Jessie
from Bookmarklet
Whatever makes them happy, good for them
- SteVe C
Carrie getting some much deserved attention. "Ms. Grimes is an Internet-age statistician, one of many who are changing the image of the profession as a place for dronish number nerds. They are finding themselves increasingly in demand — and even cool. “I keep saying that the sexy job in the next 10 years will be statisticians,” said Hal Varian, chief economist at Google. “And I’m not kidding.”"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Great article, but it left out that statisticians need some CS muscle to effectively operate on large scale data. It's the combination that make Carrie -- and others like her -- 'Internet-age' statisticians.
- Michael E. Driscoll
It looks like my zucchini plants are almost ready to flower... Which means I'm going to have to engage in Zucchini Sex. To ensure I get zucchinis, I have to take the male flowers and 'rub it inside' the female flower to 'spread the pollen'. Gardening is kinky shit
I don't care how you get turgid zukes, I have a mock crab cake recipe for you!
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
That's cool, but the previous time I tried to grow them I got dead flowers with no zucchinis. I spoke to an agronomist at work and he advised this method
- Johnny
from iPhone
Yay! The graphic has officially been flipped! No need for nostalgia.
- Louis Gray
Kenndy actually makes a good point here... :)
- Roberto Bonini
Merry Eggnog! ... and jeez, what's with the rude comments? It's the holidays. #relax
- Mona Nomura
I think everyone knew exactly what you meant jeremy :)
- Roberto Bonini
Jeremy, perhaps there's a misunderstanding. As a rule, FriendFeeders celebrate Festivus - maybe someone mistook this thread for the Airing of the Grievences ceremony. In any event, I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!
- John Craft
"Hacker Dojo has found a new home, just 5 minutes away from our current location. The new building is bigger, better, and we're excited to open this new chapter of Dojo history."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
Sadly, far from downtown mountain view, although I guess you could take the light rail …
- Amit Patel
"In the thousands of blog posts I've added to this site, I've covered hundreds and hundreds of unique services. There are the rare ones which are so clearly innovative and inspire real community that demand loyalty as FriendFeed did. For those who opted out of the FriendFeed experience, you missed out. For those still hanging on, it's maybe time for a group hug. The small team accomplished incredible stuff, and surprisingly... it's still here. I wonder if it will stay on another five years."
- SteVe C
Happy Birthday, FriendFeed! Louis, I like your word choice. In many ways FriendFeed reminds me of the Pioneer (and Voyager) probes. Primary mission accomplished, they continue on with a skeleton crew, without a new mission or upgrades, built to last, to persevere.
- Kevin Fox
Great explanation of what's special about FriendFeed's technology.
- Bruce Lewis
I think there's a link in there that needs fixing: "The initial gut-wrenching response to the acquisition" links to a post about real-time, not about the acquisition.
- Laura Norvig
Apple recruiter contacted me in April asking me if I wanted to improve their “next generation mapping software”. I turned them down, and look what happened. ;(
"Recently while on a dive near Amami Oshima in Japan, Ookata spotted rippling geometric sand patterns nearly six feet in diameter almost 80 feet below sea level. The artist is a small puffer fish only a few inches in length that swims tirelessly through the day and night to create these vast organic sculptures using the gesture of a single fin. The circles serve a variety of crucial ecological functions, the most important of which is to attract mates. The female fish is attracted to the hills and valleys within the sand and traverse them carefully to discover the male fish where the pair eventually lay eggs at the circle’s center, the grooves later acting as a natural buffer to ocean currents that protect the delicate offspring. Scientists learned that the more ridges contained within the sculpture resulted in a much greater likelihood of the fish pairing."
- Adriano
from Bookmarklet
anyone know how such local micro-actions can result in a large macro pattern of such symmetry and beauty, i.e. what kind of "blueprint" did that tiny fish access? (Please don't say scaley fractal rules :-)
- Adriano
"This weekend marked the official return to Halloween at Disneyland. Once again Jack Skellington and the gang from Nightmare Before Christmas has taken over the Haunted Mansion to create Haunted Mansion Holiday. Technical director Joe Peters gives us a fantastic tour of the creative overlay while his crew completed the final touches on the 18-day transformation."
- Me
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
Here, let me save future spammers some time: Hello my name is ____ and I am an attractive young ____ _____ and I would like to contact with you so that together you and I can ___ with ____ while _____ in a highly ____ manner. Please to be responding as soon as is practical. Without your help, the _____ in U.S. dollars will go unclaimed, and the herbal ______ remedy will wither and die. Yours in all urgent seriousness, _____.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Wow, a firmware update to my WRT610N router made multi-peer downloads (such as Steam updates, WoW updates, etc) about 10x faster. I always assumed it was Comcast throttling and had meant to complain. 600KB/s -> 6MB/s
The firmware update had been available for 2 years. The release notes say "Fixed Slow Internet speed issue." It didn't seem to affect single-source downloads. I feel dumb.
- Tudor Bosman
I noticed that my VPN connection was getting slow during a Steam game update, and pings to the router would take 400ms on the same local network. (pings to other machines on the home network were <1ms). I was ready to ditch the router until I thought to check for a firmware update.
- Tudor Bosman