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Sources: Google OS lives (and it's coming to a netbook near you) - Ars Technica - http://arstechnica.com/web...
Jonathan Fusellier, joanne devault, sean andersen and 78 other people liked this
"Two separate sources—one inside the company and one outside it—have confirmed to Ars tonight that Google plans to launch an operating system built in some fashion around its new web browser, Chrome. One source says that the new OS will be launched soon, perhaps as early as tomorrow. Tentatively called "Google Chrome OS," the project appears targeted at netbooks... [A] quick-booting OS built around a single application like Chrome would be a natural fit for a netbook."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
If Google doesn't build this soon, I am going to do it myself at some point. I really, really want an instant-on laptop with low power consumption running Chrome. And I am not the only one.
- Bret Taylor
umm... you meant Android, right? :)
- Tim Hoeck
Tim: to make Android a great laptop OS, you would need to do a lot of work. Just because it exists doesn't mean it works well for this use case.
- Bret Taylor
Wee need the Google OS Now!!
- Francisco Espinoza
from BuddyFeed
*resists urge to play Simon*
- Derrick
waves hands wildy -- me too - I also want simple useful O/S that doesn't have "security hole" crap!, plus instant on, low power consumption (ideal for laptop / netbooks) with Chrome browser Ahhhh
- Susan Beebe
Well, if you want that, you want an instant-on os, which are already available. I would prefer a fairly low power, fairly robust environment, not to mention a sharable environment with my mobile device. I'll actually be upset if Google builds "yet another OS". Also, I don't know think it would take a whole lot of work to make (strip) android and make it work based on a browser and maybe...
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- Tim Hoeck
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
- Benjamin Golub
Whatever it is it will need to address media - both consumable (think Netflix) and personal (my photos and my mp3s). Not to mention Google needs to get their head on straight about Android branding.
- Hayes Haugen
First reaction is that it is a misstep to separate this from their Android efforts.
- Hayes Haugen
Android has to be closer to an OS than Chrome, since it is actually on OS. Chrome does device management etc? An OS does a lot more than execute javascript in processes.
- Todd Hoff
I think currently the only OS that doesn't have a security hole is one that is locked in a closet with no network connectivity and no input or output devices.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I know why google cannot release a google chrome web browser on a linux platform. they're doing some shit operating system
- xiawinter
Derrick, how can you resist?! Do you really have a Simon? When I see that pic I have this memory of playing Simon on a plane when I was a kid. I'm sure I drove the other passengers insane! [EDIT: Wikipedia says Simon came out in 1978, which would make me 17 at the time. Weird, in my memory I'm younger ...]
- Laura Norvig
Here's my favourite tweet about the Chrome/OS in Chinese and the translation: http://friendfeed.com/lost-in... :D
- Micah Wittman
Micah: hilarious idea for a FriendFeed Group! Just subscribed.
- Bret Taylor
My Simon needs batteries.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Thanks, Bret!
- Micah Wittman
runny Jaunty on my HP mini is a breeze. not the goofy 'Mi' flavor, either - pure Juanty. Chrome OS? meh!
- MikeAmundsen
Wait for Haiku.
- Jacob
from Android
Google’s “Oprah Moment”: An Android Phone For Everyone At Google I/O. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Twitter Trips on Its Rapid Growth - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
Chris Rossini, Gregg Morris, Bhavesh and 2 other people liked this
Why do I always design prettier stuff for clients than I ever manage to design for myself?
Lani, Micah Wittman, chrisofspades and 30 other people liked this
Cuz they're paying? ;)
- ♥patricia♥
Maybe, but I just seem to find better inspiration for others. It's like I don't know what I like.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, that's exactly the problem I have. Even more inspiring are projects I'm not even working on. Those I get ideas out the yin yang for. As soon as it's a project I'm working on? Well runs dry. If it's a project for myself? Well runs dry and then explodes.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
we push ourselves harder when our reputation is on the line with someone other than ourselves?
- Josh Haley
It's like a home builder. They never finish their own :)
- Charlie Anzman
"It's like I don't know what I like." No truer words. I like to think it's because I'm driving myself to do better, but it's probably ADD or perfectionism ;)
- Jason Silverstein
Perhaps it's because you're flexibile in what you like that you can do the best work for clients?
- Daniel Dulitz
I suffer similarly. I usually see other people's problems as more interesting than my own, so easier to focus on and solve. With clients, there's a better chance of near-complete satisfaction sooner. But with me as a client, it's never* good enough, hence I'm never* satified and project is never* completed.
- Bruce Colthart
I think Daniel has a great point. I think because designers tend to be people who are very good at appreciating many different styles, we find it very hard to choose a style for ourselves. I went through at least a few dozen different versions of our wedding invitations before settling on a final design - and that's before even considering typefaces! But it is this same open mindedness that allows us to adapt quickly to a wide variety of clients' tastes, and create something beautiful for each.
- Jeanette Bosman
I think when I design stuff for myself, I often get so tired of the flip-flopping that I end up doing something simple just to get the project done and off my to-do list.
- Jeanette Bosman
I agree with everything in here. To add, after much intropsection, I think another part of the problem is that while I go through logical steps of analysis, ideation and creation when doing external work, when I sit down to do my own work, I want to just be able to sketch a little bit to get a general idea, then just start writing code/photoshopping the finished result. It's as if I'm a...
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- Kevin Fox
What!? And give up control?? NEVER! :) :) :)
- Jeanette Bosman
when designing something for a client, they set constraints. you don't have many of those constraints when designing for yourself. the worst thing a client can tell me is to do anything i want.
- daniel silveira
Perhaps you have little time to spend on the projects for yourself, and end up pushing them out before they've really had enough time to bake?
- DGentry
Yeah Daniel S. – you're so right. Constraints (a term i use alot but not when i needed it here) are key, and without them, projects can go on forever.
- Bruce Colthart
*nods* So true. Great tweet and discussion.
- Micah Wittman
because you are your toughest client. and your harshest critic.
- chrisofspades
You can now choose which of your services you want displayed on your profile page. The option is available at the bottom your services page at https://friendfeed.com/account.... (We will otherwise select five icons to show automatically.)
paniaguai, david beckwith, Jannifer @wordsforliving and 231 other people liked this
Thanks to Casey for implementing this. http://friendfeed.com/casey
- Bret Taylor
Just to avoid a clutter? Thanks Casey, but wouldn't it be easier to adjust the style (or use a js trick)? (Just suggesting of course) :)
- directeur
Excellent addition, thanks!
- Aaron Draczynski
YAY!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Uh, bug. Nasty bug. I can't see some of my services, the box is taller than my screen. You should columnize them or make the list scrollable or something.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Details of my bug: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
We can still only choose 5? :(
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
awesome thanks guys
- Alfredo
Yep, only five for now. We have gotten lots of feedback that the icons became useless when there were too many because you couldn't find the useful profile pages within the countless imported feeds. This lets you choose the few that have the most relevant profile info, but keeps the icon explosion from happening.
- Bret Taylor
I like this, and five is plenty for me to be able to get a sense of someone. thank you!
- holly
Very cool Thanks! :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Wow, nice.
- Adi
It's nice to have the choice. Thank you.
- Rick Cogley
minor problem: can't save when services exceeds screen size.
- AJ Batac
AJ: Ctrl-(mouse scroll wheel). Although, it gets pretty unreadable.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
that needs to be fixed.
- Alfredo
hmmmmm -[
- Chris Loft
Yay! Thanks for the choice =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Again. This is the same issue we had with the Rooms dialogue in the old interface. Didn't anyone check this first? What freakin resolution do the FF devs run at, anyway? LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rah, I'm 99.7% sure they use portrait mode on their monitors.
- AJ Batac
You'll take your five icons...and you'll like it! Thanks for the new feature.
- Mark Krynsky
Chris Charabaruk: some of us on macbook pros and other machines don't use scroll wheels. i agree with others that the truncation bug needs to be fixed. and, only five choices defeats the purpose of adding any more. some of us already have more services set up are used to seeing them. don't limit everybody in the process of simplifying it for a few, if it can be helped. thanks.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Bret, Casey, thank you for this. Can you either make the list of services on the new screen either scrollable or in a smaller dialog box with a scroll bar? There's a bug that if you have a lot of services you cannot see the bottom of the list. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Love this, but can't use it because I use too many services. I can't scroll down the list.
- Thomas Hawk
A vertical screensize of 1200 pixels fixes mine. Your mileage may vary. I chose more than 5 services and let FriendFeed pick, presumably the way it can, had i chose less than 5.
- John Lam
Ok, I logged on on a PC and used the ctl scroll wheel trick and it worked.
- Thomas Hawk
great! I only want to show the most important feeds in my profile; and not clutter my profile with too many feeds that I include
- Jeroen De Miranda
Any word on the Iphone FF web? Or any news of an app? I can't see "my" discussions on the Iphone web version.
- orionstarr
So glad this has happened! :D
- Nicholas James
That's a simple but crucial feature, in my estimation. But if I had to be fussy (which I usually am), the option to (re)order them would be also be good.
- Wayne Smallman
agree with wayne. I'd like to draw more attention to my blog, and less to my twitter ;-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Good that we can choose, thanks. Don't really understand why only 5 though. I don't have "countless imported feeds"; I have 15, which does not seem "too much to look at" to me.
- Neil Saunders
+1 Neil
- Richard Akerman
Now if we could just select the order they display in - a' la Google Profile. Speaking of Google Profile... is FF planning on adding that to the list of services?
- Alexander Grundner
This thread was discussed on the FFundercats (http://www.ffundercats.com/2009...)
- Josh Haley
not a feature i couldn't live without.. but still nice to have the option. thanks!
- Peter Efland
In my top 5 was facebook by default! #friendfeedfail
- Jordi Rosell
The services dialog is taller than my screen too. Please make it scrollable.
- Morton Fox
Evernote is really growing on me. I am using it a lot for syncing between the desktop, cloud and mobile. That's my new data flow philosophy.
Mark Andrew Catton, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF, zsafwan and 3 other people liked this
would love to see a blog post on this - I still can't get into Evernote. Do you trust it btw?
- Samuel Bostock
Wolfram|Alpha comes closer to living up to the hype than anything I've seen in a very long time: http://technologizer.com/2009...
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A quick difference between Twitter's architecture and that of FriendFeed pointed out by @biz's post from today...
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Biz writes, "Every time someone wrote a reply Twitter had to check and see what each of their followers' reply setting was and then manifest that tweet accordingly in their timeline—this was the most expensive work the database was doing and it was causing other features to degrade."
- Louis Gray
But on FriendFeed, every time you see an update, FriendFeed checks if you subscribe to someone, and if you have hidden any service, or even any specific blog from any service.
- Louis Gray
FriendFeed knows when you post an update who can see it and who can't see it, based on who is following, and what services they have opted into or out of. And when you think of how many different ways the database has to be set, the unlimited power is very impressive.
- Louis Gray
FriendFeed checks by list, by service, by name of service, and can even check by if something is liked or not, how many times, has comments, and how many, and who from, if you use the search. There is a ton of data behind the data.
- Louis Gray
Math is hard </barbie>. Sorry, but this seems like a serious cop out to me. If FF can design the DB to function as quickly as it does with as many selection parameters, surely Twitter could do the same (if, that is, they have the proper backend platform to do so, and it doesn't look like they do).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And yet, FriendFeed continues to add features and have near-flawless uptime without slowness.
- Louis Gray
I agree...it is a major copout. We have been using that technique in online chat systems since the early 1980's. It is not difficult and does not take as much power as @biz seems to be implying.
- Semipro
"near-flawless uptime without slowness"? You can't be serious…
- Glen Mistletoe
I am serious. They had downtime last week, and that was a blip. And what slowness, Glen? (Referring to FriendFeed)
- Louis Gray
Their whole feed was delayed several hours last night!
- Glen Mistletoe
Twitter's was. Not FriendFeed's.
- Louis Gray
my bad — I thought you were talking about Twitter
- Glen Mistletoe
My comments should have run together. Tina helpfully interrupted. :)
- Louis Gray
Yeah, the "And yet, they continue..." sorta started down the road to Ambiguity.
- Ken Sheppardson
Please accept my abject apology and a free libation of your choice at our next (first?) meeting
- Glen Mistletoe
(Edited for clarity) and Glen, look forward to that happening.
- Louis Gray
@ in the middle must be a lot less frequent than @ at the beginning thus saving processing power
- Matsis
But a beginning @ is index 0, there's no seek time compared to an any position @.
- Micah Wittman
also I believe a fair comparison would be twitter removing the @ replies to all (lame) with FF removing FoaF entries from lists other than the home feed. And twitter search is real time - that's probably eating up processing power
- Matsis
Good point re: Friend of a Friend, Matsis. FriendFeed already has to check if you have it enabled or not, and then if you have it enabled for a specific friend or not, and then, execute. I neglected to mention that.
- Louis Gray
Leather: When the "see all @ replies" was an option, Twitter had to decide how to handle @ replies (whether to propagate the tweet to you or to hide it, depending on your setting), which is expensive to the database. So, either they make everybody see all @ replies (which changes the setting of 98% of the users), or they sacrifice the 2%
- Andre P. Siregar
Micah I think twitter's point was that they didn't want to go check the setting (too much work for them) so they removed it. We b*itched and moaned so they gave back something less than what was. Or in other words, if the feature is available, and Oprah has a back and forth with aplusk (say replies 10-15 times), twitter dies. Also what Andre said :)
- Matsis
This is a good lesson for all comp sci students. The @-reply was not a feature Twitter had when they first launched. It's sort of a hack from the community that later got incorporated. But the architecture didn't anticipate this feature. And now it's hard to change the foundation when the house has been built
- Andre P. Siregar
Andre, I also think it's fair to say (many have stated this many times) that the whole of twitter's original architecture wasn't built with the anticipation of its current use.
- Micah Wittman
I think it all has to do with the schema-less design on top of MySQL FriendFeed is using. They're simply making smarter choices ahead of time, rather than reactive choices.
- Jesse Stay
So, by the presumed logic, no one's going to a see any new features that involves a follower dependent setting regarding anything tweet in stream. Well, ok then.
- Micah Wittman
Jesse, I have no doubt Friendfeed made smarter design decisions. When Twitter started the whole micro-blogging thing nobody really knew back then how it was going to grow and be used (now Twitter is much more than just about "I'm having lunch"). So when Friendfeed started, I'm sure they took some lessons learned from Twitter and others
- Andre P. Siregar
Micah, yes regarding Twitter's original architecture. IIRC, Digg went through the same re-architecting exercise a few years back when their users started to skyrocket.
- Andre P. Siregar
It's typical to have to re-architect a system once you realize how much the userbase is skyrocketing. Ideally you've constructed it in such a way so that you can rip out modular pieces and replace them as necessary. It seems to me that the whole of Twitter's backend is a much more serially constructed system, which is why they have to have complete system outages still now at three...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Leather, here is what Bret talked about for their MySQL implementation: http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Louis Gray
This thread is fascinating. I'm learning.
- joey
And though I wasn't on Twitter to see it, Robert suggests that they've been seeing these problems since he had about 1500 followers.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: that's absolutely true. Twitter was crashing even back in 2006. The architecture they chose was always horrid. It's getting better, actually, but still is having sizeable problems. Friendfeed has been down twice, once for an hour, and once for more than an hour because of a power failure that took down the entire data center. (At least that I remember). Twitter seems like it was down every day in 2008 and even this week has been down more than friendfeed has ever been down.
- Robert Scoble
It's hard to compare the two systems DB functionality because of the lower traffic FriendFeed has compared to Twitter.
- Rick Cogley
Rick, you can compare them based on the time of their lifespan though, and FriendFeed is doing much, much better. See the interview Scoble and I did with them last year when they had a very similar user-base to FriendFeed's.
- Jesse Stay
Rick: absolutely NOT true. Friendfeed today has MUCH higher traffic than Twitter did two years ago.
- Robert Scoble
It is easy to look at the total user base and make excuses for Twitter, but what I'm talking about is the fact that FriendFeed is accomplishing much more complex tasks, and not missing a beat. Even when they are 10 times bigger than they are today, I expect they will scale smoothly, because of their talent and their track record.
- Louis Gray
Leather: I'm assuming the difference is with the amount of WRITE operation in the database (which is much more expensive than parsing)
- Andre P. Siregar
I would love to read how friendfeed has architected itself to avoid the problems twitter is having.
- ian kennedy
Traffic may be one thing, but I would venture to guess the activity in the database is higher in FF than in Twitter for the same number of users
- Andre P. Siregar
ian: on friendfeed there is more metadata to study and filter with. I can say "show me all items that mention Obama" on both services, but only on friendfeed can I also say "and display only those items that have a like or more." That is how friendfeed can remove a major amount of spam (and I use it all the time). Spam doesn't get likes. Another way?
- Robert Scoble
On friendfeed I can delete any comment underneath one of my items. So I can help keep my corner of friendfeed clean. And if I see any underneath, say, your items, I can let you know about it. But what about on Twitter? We can't do shit about spam except report it and hope that @biz or someone gets to it.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: Twitter is more than three years old. Friendfeed is just about 1.5 years old. You aren't factoring that in. Go and compare the two services all along at the same age. I don't compare my 1.5 year old to a three year old, and neither should you. That's a HUGE mistake you are making.
- Robert Scoble
When Twitter was 1.5 years old it had fewer users than friendfeed and was FAR LESS COMPLEX yet it was going down about 100 times more often than friendfeed is today. Twitter's architecture was NEVER thought out very well and we're still seeing the artifacts of that.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: I'm comparing friendfeed today to where Twitter was 1.5 years ago.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: true, but friendfeed is a LOT more complex than Twitter ever was and it also has more users than Twitter did when Twitter was 1.5 years old.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: then what are you arguing with me about? Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, yes the filtering on advanced searches is impressive (it even supports simple exclusions). I am impressed that they can keep it all running with every page updating in*real*time. Is each page an open session?
- ian kennedy
ian: I believe it is. Leather: go to compete.com or any traffic site and compare. But adjust the dates.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: keep in mind I've been on Twitter 907 days and I'm not going to do your homework for you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Louis, you're absolutely correct about FF accomplishing much more complex tasks much more effortlessly. Overall the leaders of this team are more effective. We had a saying back when I was consulting ISP startups "The network IS the business plan" In an online business that depends entirely on its systems for potential revenues, the architecture of the network becomes a model for the...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Leather: believe me, Twitter didn't grow that fast until the last year. The first two years Twitter grew slower than friendfeed did and had a TON more problems (and was even less complex).
- Robert Scoble
Leather: 900 != 700. Heheh. That's a huge number of days in this world. And, anyway, both traffic and complexity are higher on friendfeed and amount of time down is MUCH lower here. So, by either metric friendfeed is winning HUGE.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, here's the screen capture from Compete.com: http://twitpic.com/57bgl Y'all seem to be forgetting about non-Twitter-account web traffic. FF is flat; Twitter skyrockets. And yes, FF is "younger" but is built on top of Twitter so it did not start from the same "zero" point -- nor does it have as many API calls -- nor is it as accessible off-the-laptop (iPhones excepted).
- Kathy E Gill
Kathy: you have NOT shifted the graph to show equivilent times. At 4/2009 Friendfeed is STILL far younger than Twitter was at 4/2008. Shift the graphs and come back. Also, at 1.5 years into its life Twitter didn't have that many apps either and Twitter's API is far more simplistic than friendfeed's is. Twitter didn't take off until after it was two years old. Friendfeed is already growing faster. And who cares what it is built on top of? Twitter was built on top of blogs and we don't hold that against it.
- Robert Scoble
Kathy: Benjamin Golub of FF wrote fftogo.com. FriendFeed on any phone.
- Johnny Worthington
Twitter started March 21, 2006. Friendfeed started October 1, 2007. You must shift the charts to compare apples to apples.
- Robert Scoble
I just don't understand why it's so hard to compare apples to apples. If you want to compare the two companies, you have to compare them at similar stages in their lifecycles. it's really simple.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: because our tools make it hard to do the comparison. But I was there and saw how Twitter grew. Twitter was crashing before it even got to the famous SXSW and I only had something like 1000 followers then (and that was in March of 2007).
- Robert Scoble
I use fftogo almost every day. and I use the IM on the other days (twitter isn't really even sophisticated enough to keep their IM service running)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Not to mention email
- Johnny Worthington
I don't know about that Robert. We can grok how to compare money from today to money in 1920. We should be able to adjust stats about companies in our brains. We don't compare the revenues of a 3yo company to the revenues of a 30yo company, right (unless the 3yo is performing Outrageously). I haven't heard a single person disagree with what you've said about "the old days" of twitter either. So I can only assume that it must be true. These problems don't sneak up on a company.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: Twitter's management will admit they've always had technical problems. Remember, their architect was fired (Blair) and @ev admitted that it was a test project that they never expected to get so big.
- Robert Scoble
Ok, well the first step to getting well is admitting you have a problem, right? Never expecting a thing to get so big is a lack of vision, and not a very good quality for a management team IMO. Since they never expected it, and now that it is, they should be stepping aside as they are certainly no longer qualified to lead it. And THAT is the true sign of success of management teams....
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Choose Success, not failure. But, it's interesting to note that "fail whale" and twitter are synonymous. Fail is practically in the name. And that needs to be corrected. It affects team spirit and morale, and causes it to become a vicious cycle.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: you have to go back in @ev's history, though. Remember when he started Pyra? They made Blogger. Remember how often it was down? A lot, just like Twitter. How slow it was? Very. How much spam it had? A lot, just like Twitter. Yet it made Ev a lot of money, just like Twitter will. So, since he's been down this path before, why not repeat? It actually doesn't make sense to over...
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- Robert Scoble
And that's where I come back to the lack of vision. If you "aren't sure" then you don't have the vision. You're right that it doesn't make sense to over engineer something if you have doubts, but if you have doubts, why jack with it? But in some sense it does make sense to over engineer things, because in a pinch you can often sell the company for the technology that's running it to someone who has a different vision for it, someone who knows what to do with what you've built.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert, I was talking about now, but I see your point about comparing two years ago. However, it's still hard to compare two different systems, different db's, different programming languages, different ways of indexing data, etc, in my opinion. It's pretty apparent that FF has been very stable, comparatively, however.
- Rick Cogley
lots of testosterone on this thread, did we at least all agree that twitter's "organic architecture" sucks now just like it did from inception & friendfeeds "designed architecture" should scale nicely just like it has from inception?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike, yes, agreed on that. ;-)
- Rick Cogley
FriendFeed enthusiasts in Scoble's network agree that it's better than Twitter! Film at 11.
- Christian Crumlish
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jQuery is worth your time, folks (if you know what it is, but don't know it). That's all I'm saying.
- Micah Wittman
is jquery better than prototype? I have used prototype a lot without any complaints, but have no experience with jquery.
- Chip Ramsey
Sony reports $1B annual loss, first in 14 years - http://www.google.com/hostedn...
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do you guys use Twitter favorites? If so how do you use it? To collect best tweets you find, save for later, what else? Thanks!
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Correct. Just for bookmarking tweets.
- Nishant
For smart comments... sometimes for a reply from someone... then I'll add in my tweet that lead to the response. It should be clear when looking at my favorites why they are there.
- David Damore
I was about to post the same question :) I have never found myself going through others favorites to decide whether to follow, I just use it to bookmark tweets.
- Bhavesh
Asked folks a while back if they used "favorite," seems most are not. They do not really see what the point is.
- David Damore
Is there a way to pull all of ones favorite tweets on one page without hitting "more" ?
- David Damore
save tweets with interesting links - often on the road with mobile to read later on desktop or laptop
- Erno Hannink
Main feature on my iPhone. Select and fave. Then read the fave's later on the Macbook Pro. Bookmark and distribute links from there. Excellent time-saver-process.
- Jan Friman
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HowStuffWorks "What causes the smell after rain?" - http://science.howstuffworks.com/questio...
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"One of the more pleasant rain smells, the one we often notice in the woods, is actually caused by bacteria! Actinomycetes, a type of filamentous bacteria, grow in soil when conditions are damp and warm. When the soil dries out, the bacteria produces spores in the soil. The wetness and force of rainfall kick these tiny spores up into the air where the moisture after a rain acts as an aerosol (just like an aerosol air freshener). The moist air easily carries the spores to us so we breathe them in. These spores have a distinctive, earthy smell we often associate with rainfall. The bacteria is extremely common and can be found in areas all over the world, which accounts for the universality of this sweet "after-the-rain" smell. Since the bacteria thrives in moist soil but releases the spores once the soil dries out, the smell is most acute after a rain that follows a dry spell, although you'll notice it to some degree after most rainstorms."
- Keith Pelczarski
from Bookmarklet
Just was talking to http://www.friendfeed.com/garin and we came to the conclusion that if you are going to comment on a friendfeed item you should either be first or last. Why? They always are visible. So, here's your chance! :-)
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zaloom!
- Kevin Johnson
If we are really cool we'll get on this list http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Kevin is first, who will be last? I just want to be the penultimate commenter!
- Robert Scoble
first and last words are all that matter on the FF.
- rob friedman
Okay. Everyone stop NOW!
- Kevin Sablan
great. now FF is going to be filled up with those annoying ass people that comment "FIRST!" on everything.
- Enrique Gutierrez
ok
- Shawn Snodgrass
Aw crap, I could sit here all night waiting to be last, so may as well comment now.
- Sharon McPherson
8th!
- rob friedman
Any worthy FF thread will engage interested parties enough to read most of the comments.
- Internet's Tad
Do I get bonus points if I end up being the thread killer?
- Kevin Johnson
Kevin you could always delete your 1st comment. :)
- rob friedman
Kevin! Yes, and we're having a great time watching this. It will get old fast, but for now it's really fun!
- Robert Scoble
Dang it I am 5 min too late. So I guess it is like posting on a blog post, you always want to be first.
- Jeff
Hey Enrique.. that would suck. Oh... LAST! Oh Jeff... Last.
- Ted Bradford II
That's why these threads just go on and on and on... people just want to have the last word. ;-P
- Chris Heath
Chris: I don't want the last word. I want the penultimate word. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nope, I like the riffng of the conversation. Jump in anywhere. Enjoy the free flow of ideas and worry not about being seen by the scanners. Those who take the time to expand the thread have such a richer experience.
- michael sean wright
if i wasn't so tired i'd play that out Chris (as my last post was truly in jest). Late here in East TN. Gonna go tip a few cows and call it a day.
- Ted Bradford II
Ted: so was mine ... didn't you catch the winky tongue? (i'm on cape fear so i'm soon to bed as well)
- Chris Heath
Good point, unless you're actually using the RT chat aspect of FriendFeed, I guess...
- Andy Werner
I actually come back 5 days later to make comments so I can have the last word. Everyone has already forgotten what the conversation is about by then.
- Jeff
Chris- I did, but needed a segue into a cow tipping joke... cause I've never done so before. I do know this, tomorrow I will use the word 'penultimate' and dazzle family and friends. Hope alls quiet on the Cape bro. These storms have been a biotch. Annnnnnd Jeff just trumped us all. Tell him what he's won Enrique... nite all.
- Ted Bradford II
I'd never use mustard on that.
- Glen Mistletoe
Second to last is always visible on my screen. :)
- Bwana ☠
Clever way to get the most commented upon comment on FF ever....
- Barak B
Ted, if you haven't dozed off- i'll have you know that the coastal winds tend to keep a lot of the storm systems at bay- if you're close enough to the water - a mile or 5 inland can make a big difference some days - and spot t/storms can be localized around here big time - for instance yesterday it rained (for a short period) at my house while i was at work 5 miles away getting no rain - only knew cuz the ground was wet when i went home for lunch... ok - it's really time for sleep now - g'nite FriendFeed
- Chris Heath
so in other words, last is not least?
- Julie Bovee Hill
Barak: check out this idea for a long thread (still nowhere near the longest on friendfeed, but the idea.. ) http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac...
- Chris Heath
Chris: Yes, that is a good one too. This is better though and I predict with end up with more comments.
- Barak B
Yay! I am last as of now :)
- Amit Nangare
lets see how long this lasts for! :)
- Paul Kinlan
Another one of these? From Scoble this time? Wow. BTW, last post.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
LOUD NOISES.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
it took you this long to figure that out? :)
- Steven Hodson
I will be the penultimate commenter!
- Garin Kilpatrick
That way I can be the ultimate one.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Nope.
- Barak B
friendfeed should allow for "liking" comments so top comments can be the ones shown, no matter the chronology. And allow the users to watch comments by likes, threaded or chronologically.
- Charbax
A blatant attempt at gaming the FriendFeed statistics for no real useful purpose... Oooh, can I be last, Please Please!!!
- Peter Kelley
No, Peter, you may not be last. That's my position.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Last Post!!!
- Richard Hurt
well, the last comment is always changing, isn't this like having your 5 nanoseconds of glory?
- Liviu Lica
This thread is now closed.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, NOW it's closed.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Or is it? :)
- Liviu Lica
Perhaps now...
- Garin Kilpatrick
I would give it another 2 hrs or so.
- Jeff
thats me! :)
- Roshan Ramachandran
based on what you say, it easier to simply click like :-)
- Orli Yakuel
:)
- Michael Fidler
"Comment on a friendfeed item"? which one? ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Are trying to go for the longest comment thread again?
- Amit Morson
Amit: no, most times one post gets hidden.
- Robert Scoble
In a different timezone you can have the advantage :)
- Rene de Vries
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
What if you write backwards? Does that help?
- Kieran Daly
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now. says Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
It would be nice if we could pick the number of comments shown at the top and bottom, I'd like to see the first 3 and last 3 for example.
- Kol Tregaskes
I usually read all the comments of something I'm interested in. I don't just read the top and bottom ones so I don't care where I come in. I comment on what I want to because I want to say something. It's nice if the original poster reads/responds to it, but not absolutely necessary. Most of the time the most fun/interaction comes from other commenters.
- Molly
:) says Michael Fidler
- Julian Edward
Sounds like an online auction...Is there any deadline? Then I'll prepare my winning speech 17,3 sec beforehand.
- Zack Brandit
I'm not falling for your postbait, Scoble! Oh wait...crap.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Cow tipping - That's Funny
- Brent - Loving Life
Good point.
- Jack Boyle
I feel sorry for the cows. And the grass. I am weakhearted I guess.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I guess I misunderstood. You were talking about that fat waittress in Crazy Mick's Breakaway Cafe, weren't you?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Fine, I'm in
- Don Bonaddio
am I last yet ?
- Julian Edward
Nope
- Jérôme Flipo
no
- mjc
Yeah, you were last. Congrats.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
In ur timezone, stealin ur commentz, kthxbye :)
- Peter Kelley
ok, I'll hold on to last place for visablity!
- PaulJohnson
I was going to add something witty, but i got nothing. sorry....
- Mike Nencetti
No problem. Participating is more important than winning, we say in the Netherlands.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
It's the long-tail of real-time
- zeroinfluencer
Excellent point David ;)
- Don Bonaddio
Being last has one drawback. It makes you a thread-killer. I'm not sure some of us like being that. Sometimes I'd rather see the discussion keep going.
- George Hall (Australia)
Do like the suggestion made earlier that there should be bonus points for being the thread-killer...
- George Hall (Australia)
but who wants to be last?
- mcvictor
Ok Robert, please close this thread now. ;)
- Meryn Stol
I disagree, and I'll tell you why below...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We already did this thread, I'll post the link right after Tina's rebuttal
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You don't really believe that Robert. Content is key! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
But if I post last, I'm first in the thread on Twhirl! Double win! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
amazing
- David Gross
from email
Always happy to be last .... but it probably won't last :)
- Charlie Anzman
llllllaaaaasssssstttttt
- mjc
You'd be right Charlie :P
- Jay
And there is nothing I hate more than reading that first comment that childishly claims "First!" and nothing more. "Last!" (until the next comment comes along)
- Jim Espinoza
By the way, I'm the last commenter in a very participated thread recently started by Robert Scoble, but that didn't gain me almost any new follower. I'm fine with this though, as I'd find silly being advantaged for being the last commenter ;-)
- Opensource Obscure
Agreed :)
- Fabian De Simone
How do I stick my comment to the bottom so that it will always be last? :)
- Jeff Sayre
How long can this go on?
- Tom Landini
Last! ...for now
- Scott
*BOOM* sorry Scott
- Mark Essel
So this if why Scoble goes nuts over realtime feeds - he can be the first to comment.
- Tom Landini
I guess those are the two most pivotal points in a conversation, how it starts and how it ends but without the middle it's really no fun
- Mark Essel
Well, every comment gets to be last for at least a couple of seconds. Or fractions of a second with RT.
- Kevin Pedraja
If you want to understand the power of last you need to read this thread http://friendfeed.com/mikenay...
- WorldofHiglet
"There is no final solution. There is no last word.” ~ Carlos Fuentes
- Sharon McPherson
First is way better, because the last post can always change :)
- Tim McDougall
Easy to be first, harder to be last. Kind of like trying to win a silent auction, you always have to go back
- Lorraine Ball
but what if it took me a while to find the discussion, and i still want to be last? ;-)
- Courtney Engle
Firs...Last.
- Rob
@Rob - in yo' face!
- JoEllen
The one who will comment after me is so stupid I would'nt like to be him :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Yoink!
- Zach Lytwyn
112 comments - but there can never be last comment, can there? Unless there is a FF limit on the number of comments - Paul, is there a limit?
- WorldofHiglet
The current last comment is the next penultimate comment.
- Brian Sullivan
Not everyone is on here to market themselves to infinity. Why people, other than people who actually make money off of exposure, insist on wanting the most friends on ff/fb/ms/tt is beyond me. Not everyone is a Scobilite! Yes I did just make that word up... where do I copyright it? lol
- Jason Williams
Didn't someone blog about tinyurl's dominance a while back - about how they have too much power. Might have been Gillmor or Winer
- Bwana ☠
Winer. I don't think they have too much power
- Steve Gillmor
I'm going for last.
- Derek Markham
I've got last:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I'm the ultimate thread killer, so I win.
- jcunwired
instahide
- Edward Zwart
How can we compete against Robert
- Peter Meng
Peter: why compete? Just come in last! :-)
- Robert Scoble
ok
- Kevin Johnson
Just checking. I heard this thread was closed, so I wondered if commenting still works.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
For the love; Robert please kill this tread so I will stop getting email. ;)
- Jeff
wow that's pretty rad :-)
- Patphelan
@Jeff, it's not spam if you opt in ;-)
- Kevin Johnson
wonder what the value of posting on page length increments are... as people page down your comment is visible ;)
- offbeatmammal
Jeff: do you still get email if you hide a thread? I bet you do. That sucks. Now I know why I don't turn on email notifications.
- Robert Scoble
There is no last. - Mobius Loop
- Robert Couture
to infinity and beyond
- Jonathan Grimes
Kevin: i did not say it was spam. I put the smiley face indicating my partial joking nature. but only partial.
- Jeff
Robert: I could not figure out how to disable comments for particular post. It is really not a big issue since I have gmail, but I do think this post may never die.
- Jeff
@Jeff - same here - noworries
- Kevin Johnson
- Rob
This. Will. Never. End.
- Michael Forian
Pay me $10 and I'll delete this thread. (Future friendfeed monetization technique). Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Your comment is always the last! look at mine :)
- Luis Benavides
Welcome to the neverending thread :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
Garin: I'll delete it before it ends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That would be a shame. You'd be up $10 at least though :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
The last shall be last
- Peter Meng
There can be only one.
- Kevin Johnson
I seem to be last on many of Steve Gillmor's posts @techcrunchit, the kiss of death to many a conversation. I should be so lucky here.
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
A good way to stop? - Scoble puts in his penultimate comment Kevin Johnson says zaloom!
- Julian Edward
Yes, you should be so lucky :p
- Jesse Newhart
I'm going to change my FriendFeed ID to "145 more comments"
- Mark Traphagen
Getting a piece of the pie... :)
- Jan Ole Peek
I've often found myself to have the last comment. It hasn't benefited me yet that I've noticed...let's try that again.
- Mike Lewis
first is forever....last is a very transient honor indeed.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
and being both is probably meaningless, but I'm still going to claim it
- Kevin Johnson
Do others ever get more than 2 comments on their posts? :)
- Cameron
I'm lucky to get 2.
- jcunwired
Doing it!! www.radarla.com
- Drew Lucas
So, if you are last and then someone comes behind you, should you re-comment to be last again?
- T.S. Elliott
Probably so T.S. but it won't last long ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sorry Rob:-)
- Michael Fidler
1
- Robert Kenney
2
- Robert Kenney
This is the Seinfeld of FF....the post and comments about nothing. I wonder what the record is for the most comments on FF?
- Jeff
As a fine-art platform, as a painting, do you think anyone would be interested in a full-screen image feed animated by Judith Supine? http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- stephen harlow
He who comments last...
- Abbas Haider Ali
comments as:
- Kevin Johnson
Tag- Im it
- Ryan Gerritsen
not anymore you're not ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
zaloom!
- Kevin Johnson
for one moment I could imagine that every comment was Kevin Johnson and his "zaloom!"
- WorldofHiglet
ANd so I do and then another and another :) Fun huh.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
not really... but hey... whatever
- Chris Heath
So to comment or to like a FriendFeed item is to promote it.. and to promote the promoter. Great great great!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
173rd!!
- Mark Traphagen
Controlled noise...
- Joe Dawson
Indeed it is official :) But not for long let me bask in it's glory for a moment hahaha.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
It was fun while it lasted.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
It's over now - no need to post any more comments
- Julian Edward
Okay, Thanks. It was taking too much of my time anyway.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Looks like this could become another "LAST" type post that Mike Nayyar (http://friendfeed.com/mikenay...) has ;)
- Nicholas James
Nicholas: Except this thread is far more epic :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
back again...to claim last place!
- Zach Lytwyn
Good for you Zach!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Cannot. Let. This. End.
- Robert Couture
Have. To.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
hit hit hit
- Hans Mestrum
Kol: Cool idea, it would be neat to be able to choose how many of the first and last comments were visible.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Last
- Michael Fidler
I like most anything distilled...information, bait...(distilled bait...is that like the worm at the bottom of the mezcal?)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The difference would be that in this case the worm will stay on the bottom. No matter what.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I reckon it'll be Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
I am not quite sure about that. But willing to accept it. (Wait! You just called me a worm? The most underrated but valuable animal on the planet, that brings us fertile ground and eats dead stuff? It is a nice compliment, but might be a bit much).
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, No! - I didn't mean you worm. Although as you say they are useful beings. I do hope you'lll be in heroic position of last commenter! This is a case of the last shall be second. (Kevin Johnson being first of course). Scoble is penultimate we would hope. I'm aiming for 5th to last!
- Julian Edward
Yesterday somebody asked: 'if you pass the number two in a race, which place are you in?' and I answered wrong. Passing the last one in this race will be hard...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
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Cool changes coming to Twitter Search - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
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We added a 1-click login for Twitter users, so now it's easy for all your friends to try http://friendfeed.com
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To RT, click http://twitter.com/home... It uses OAuth, so no password is required, and it automatically finds your Twitter friends on FriendFeed! It also imports your profile and picture. Big thanks to http://friendfeed.com/bgolub for making all this happen! (also, existing users can go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends)
- Paul Buchheit
fan bloody tastic! So we can post here and Twitterers can comment away without any complaints! The only think you need to try and do is bring in comments (about a share) from twitter into here! :)
- Zee.
This is great...should help new users quite a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
Bravo!!! Very nice!
- David Cook
nice
- Joe Azzara
thanks for making it effortless
- Vedran Agovic
That's fantastic! Keep it up guys!! :)
- Internet's Tad
I'm hoping this will help to entice people over here. I'd much rather talk to people via FF than Twitter
- WorldofHiglet
FrF + OAuth. Like.
- tobe
Refresh your FriendFeed to see an updated first comment from Paul, including a link to RT this news: http://twitter.com/home...
- Dan Hsiao
OK, I admit I'm dense. As an existing user will this help me find the folks I follow on Twitter?
- Laura Norvig
Cool, is it possible we could have the ability to bulk import or non-FF Twitter friends as private feeds so we can track them in FF? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Laura, existing FriendFeed users should just go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... and click on the Twittter (and Facebook and Google) icons to find their friends. Kol, not yet, but I'm hoping to add something like that soon (improved imaginary friends).
- Paul Buchheit
Thx, Paul - guess I haven't been to that page since the launch. btw, I'm definitely coming around to the new friendfeed (colors notwithstanding).
- Laura Norvig
Great to see the standards working -OAuth fro Gogole and Twitter login on Friendfeed
- Kevin Marks
That's a great tool, Paul! Found a few from Twitter and Facebook I didn't realise were on FF...:)
- WorldofHiglet
Oh man, that is suh-weet. Works really well.
- Laura Norvig
Paul, that would be wonderful, thank you. I'm keen to use FF as a kinda Twitter client. I'd love the ability to import my group I've created on Tweetvisor too but that would additionally require exporting facilities from Tweetvisor, and from asking them they've told me it's low priority (which is fair enough).
- Kol Tregaskes
That's fantastic! Sharing with all of my not-yet-friendfeedified twitter friends. Thanks, Paul!
- Eric Johnson
This IS good. Thanks for the hard work, Benjamin Golub.
- Micah Wittman
Love that you guys are making the entry more enticing. What about refining what FriendFeed is further? Like: Twitter + conversation. For new people who don't get it and most without the time to get it, simplifying the message or experimenting further with your "first impression" on your splash page might be worth a try. Example: wouldn't it be cool to have a live conversation streaming to show just how FF has a leg up on the scattered Twitter stream?
- kilbuda
this is fabulous!!!
- Angela P.
It's so convenient for new comer like me!
- tsssimon
Just tried it and it works great.
- Iván Abrego
i have tried this too and am richer by 33 Twitter friends
- jagannath rao
Nice work. Keeps getting better around here :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
WOW! 313 new Twitter people! Amazing what the OAuth did. Amazing. That just completely Rocks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That was just too easy, and found a bunch of Twitter people. I just subscribed, but I hope they participate. I'm sure I'll have to trim later.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Thanks for everything Benjamin and the others, that is really great. :)
- Alp
I was subscribed to exactly 100 of the people I follow on Twitter. Added 93 more. Funny, this is actually helping me find people I *don't* want to follow in either place.
- Laura Norvig
I'm looking forward to the "advanced imaginary friends" section which lets me as an existing FriendFeed user view all the twitter updates from people that don't use FriendFeed.
- Brian Sloane
很好，继续努力
- Kunshou（困兽）
Sweet!
- Don Strickland
Just posted this to my stream then saw this, Cool stuff Paul
- Charlie Anzman
Some time ago I spent lots of time in removing my Facebook-Friendfeed integration, and didn't succeed, Facebook refused to remove it. Since that - no info about any other my services to Facebook, ever.
- orie
Happy to hear that there will be an improved imaginary friend option!
- Jacob
The improved imaginary friend feature will be great. No need to visit Twitter much then!
- Pinksy
How do we give virtual bucks to Paul, oh I see a like button here. Off to work on the influence funnel, who cares about dollars, I want eyes ;)
- Mark Essel
FriendFeed is constantly bringing new value to the service. I'm loving it!
- Amie Gillingham
its relay cool
- Kaspar Minosiants
great idea
- andy brudtkuhl
Oh Thanks i was looking for something like this
- Asahi
Is the imaginary friends feature completely disabled for the moment? Or am I just not looking in the right place?
- Mark Jacobs
Mark: imaginary friends have been replaced by groups.
- Robert Scoble
When is OpenID coming up?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
This feature is AWESOME :) Bravo!
- Iain Baker
I just imported 8,000 new Twitter friends. Worked MUCH BETTER than last time.
- Robert Scoble
Smart move guys. A quick way to grow FF users is to tap into the current hot properties. Can't believe other Social Networks are so slow to respond.
- Neill Adamson
Paul, is there a way to sync it so that people I no longer follow on Twitter are unfollowed on FriendFeed?
- Jorge Escobar
Great news on the advanced imaginary friends. That plus the ability to comment back to Facebook posts as easily as we reply to Twitter would be killer.
- Kevin Kuphal
Finally! :-)
- Richard Joerges
Not sure why this wasn't implemented a while ago but it's a welcome addition.
- Jason Williams
None of my Facebook contacts are on ff.
- JECO Photo
So how do existing FF members use it?
- Tiffany Monhollon
Ca passe 50 fois par jour ce truc là sur FriendFeed ! C''est pas possible d'arr^ter, j'en ai marre de le voir franchement ... ^^
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
Tiffany, existing FF members should go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find their Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends.
- Paul Buchheit
Encore ?? C'est pas possible ! ;(
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
RT'd ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Robert cannot seem to do that with groups. What I want to do: Concentrate different RSS feeds (e.g. newswires) which do not necessarily have an account in any other social network into one imaginary friend's collection of feeds.
- Mark Jacobs
Mark, "groups" (formerly "rooms") are able to import feeds just like regular users (and imaginary friends). See https://friendfeed.com/xoogle-... for example (imports the blogs of all known xoogle startups). The only thing special about imaginary friends is that they don't have usernames (or rather we assign a random 128 bit username).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, the DM option on imaginary friends should perhaps be removed. Also, imaginary friends do not show up on the search dropdown list when you type in their name in the search box.
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul, is it possible to automatically create "imaginary friends" from twitter following list? What I would like is to read all my Twitter in FriendFeed; many of twitterers though are not on FF, so I have to create them by hand which is tedious. Also, it would be nice to allow to add them to some special list.
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar, see my comment up in the middle and Paul's reply. Looks like FF are working on it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice tool, discovered some more contacts !
- François Granger
love this guys wonderful
- Thomas Power
This must be the reason for all the new follows I've been getting over the last few days. Congrats!
- Michael Fidler
That's actually quite useful. Thank you!
- snapixel
Still would like an imaginary friend than making bunch of Groups to simulate peoples that doesn’t use FF. BTW, unlike the Facebook Connect login, when I tried logging in using Twitter, it made a new account for me on FF instead of opening my own (which also has Twitter activity added).
- Natsuki Seika
ditto to natsuki...
- Steve Austin
Wow, real nice and simply to add my Twitter friends :O
- Rosenkrieger
Good move!
- Lantrix
Is it possible to add this to a wordpress blog?
- Arturo Pelayo
@Arturo: http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Saxtus
hi me sid m new member of dis site.........
- Sidra Kanwal
Malcom Gladwell today exquisitely shows us why "realtime" matters. And the ultimate vendication of Friendfeed, Robert Scoble and Louis Gray (and Gary V.) http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...
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To take the underdog's real strength you must destroy what you know and love and what other people think might be your strength. In my case, I've put far less effort into my blog in order to get into the real time web on friendfeed and Twitter. Now that the world is changing the strategy seems smart. Two years ago? I was called an idiot. Heck, Arrington said I needed an intervention last December.
- Robert Scoble
That's true, but now the fun begins. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Here's a better link, all on one page: http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...
- Nick in Manila
Cool
- Alex Hammer
great post...a bit long though. I love reading Malcom... The way he describes various phenomenon is simply intriguing
- Bhavesh
St. Joe's used full court press in the 60s to good effect: http://bit.ly/15Swxu
- Lou Clark
and an even better link: (printable/scalable) http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...
- Chris Heath
RT @stshank: Marissa Mayer argues Google is good for journalism: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
Windows 7 Fail - http://www.f-secure.com/weblog...
Don't forget all the fun #win7 keyboard modifiers for the SuperBar. Try Ctrl-Shift-Click. Try Shift-Click. Try WinKey+#number.
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Happy 10th anniversary to the Matrix! See http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009... and Kevin's awesome logo: http://friendfeed.com/static...
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so, you guys are agents... 8-|
- xekc
WFT? It's been 10 years? Wow.
- Arda Çetin
Definitely my favorite logo ever!
- Shannon Jiménez
very nice. i think you could add a bubble explaining the reference to Matrix with a mouse over
- Ouriel Ohayon
may have been 10 years to you :o
- chaz2b
great!
- K.D.
and people still ask me why I LOVE friendfeed, sign...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
想不到都10年了，好快
- Kunshou（困兽）
Ok, not just me seeing that. Nice job Kevin.
- Andrew Smith
Oh my. It's official, I'm old. Eeeeeniwayyyy... Glad to know it wasn't my mind going when I rolled over the logo.
- Andy Kruger
This has to be FriendFeed's best logo yet!
- Nicholas James
Wow! That is neat! I LOVE creative people! :-)
- Pat Graham Block
A very cool logo! Keep up the creative work!
- Sanne Buurma
Very cool logo you guys! :) Like Nicholas said, best and most creative one yet!
- vijay
How about change the color of entire background next time?
- Ray Chen
Gosh - ten years have passe me by - no one told me where to run . . .
- Chris Loft
Chris: those are Japanese characters, but yeah, I thought the original matrix logo had numbers, but might be wrong.
- Robert Scoble
@slayerboy - agree totally / "Show that you have no respect for those that built you, and you'll wonder why you were just a fad." lots of proof of that...
- Ben Watson
from twhirl
sorry - twhirl jumping around got my think in the wrong drink ... oops
- Ben Watson
from twhirl
This is so sweet!
- Brandon Titus
Kevin, this logo rocks!! hahaha - love it!! "Take the Red Pill" !! OK :)
- Susan Beebe
Very nice, you should do something for the 30th anniversary of 'Alien', too.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Great logo!
- Jorg Jansen
rick sanchez approves!
- Cee Bee
Great Stuff!
- Sidharth Shah
The film used a combination of hiragana, numbers, Latin characters and some reversed characters. I opted to just go with hiragana for a specific reason... (Matrix screenshot here: http://thefuturebuzz.com/pics...)
- Kevin Fox
So AWESOME.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I was very pleasantly surprised to see this. Awesome job, FF!
- nadim
geez has it been ten years?
- Justin Long
My 9-year old son has been asking to watch this with me and I really need to make the time for us to do that. This is one of my favorite movies of all time (and he is one of my favorite persons)
- Alan Cheslow
What a great movie. Always think about it when I get deja vu :)! Love the logo.
- Ruth Helfinstein
I can't believe it has been that long!
- Gary Stiehr
@Gary, I know! I was in high school when the first one came out.
- Brandon Mendelson
The coolest and I would have missed it if Jeremiah Owyang never made a post about the Best of Day content (I found it in the BoD), which included a filter from FFing Enigma (aka Tina) and finally brought this post to my attention. The lengths I will go to for good content!
- Michael Fidler
ha! thats great... cool stuff
- Peter Efland
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