HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY...to my 'lil FF sis!!! You're one of my best buds in the world...aww hell girl, you're like family! ...I'm SO HAPPY that in the past year you've found, in Nice Bot, the love that YOU DESERVE! not to mention the LOVE and support you've given to Emma and I! You KNOW what that means to us and for that we're ETERNALLY greatful! <3 Feliz Cumplianos 'lil sis!!! ENJOY THE HELL OUT OF YOUR B-DAY!!! :-))
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Whenever I am on Twitter my gf never fails to remind me how stupid and pointless she thinks it is
- Holden Page
So someone in *your* family doesn't grok Twitter either. My brother says he'll never even set up a Twitter account at all; he sees no point either. Apparently these people see the words "What are you doing?" above the text box and think it's nothing but the Facebook status update without Facebook. Some people just don't get it at all...
- Dennis Jernberg
In *my* family (asterisks per Dennis), most of them use Facebook. Nobody else uses Twitter at all.
- Louis Gray
in my family everyone uses Facebook as well, my mom has a twitter account, she never touches it, she thinks it is dumb.
- Holden Page
Sure enough, Facebook is exactly what everybody in my family but me uses, too! Well, I'm on Facebook too, but I don't use it like they do. For one thing, I don't play any of the games; I hide them instead. And none of them has even heard of FriendFeed...
- Dennis Jernberg
hahaha that is epic!! Twittter got dissed by Ms Gray :D
- Susan Beebe
My family is the same. Twitter is pointless to them. There's so much more than just status updates to them.
- Jesse Stay
Well, I don't get Twitter either. Anyone want to explain it to me?
- Cristo
It's not fun when you sign up and have no friends / people to interact with...and all the interesting people only talk to each other. All my friends didn't "see a point" until they built their own network(s). Just sayin'
- Mona Nomura
My wife is also that way, btw - I may *just* be able to get her to join FourSquare though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, it took a lot of work, but i got my gf to join FriendFeed haha
- Holden Page
As if Twitter is some brilliant thing that only a certain so-called tech crowd gets.
- Cristo
My sister has known that I've used Twitter for several years now. Whenever I brought it up, that was her reaction, "Don't get it. Don't see the point." She created an account a month or so ago and she's totally into it now. When I asked her what made the difference, she shrugged and said she wasn't sure. "Your friends started using it, didn't they?" I asked her. "Yes." heh. :D
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Why don't you guys go have this conversation on Twitter? :)
- Cristo
Pfff. Cristo, you know full well twitter can't deal with the c word. :)
- Micah Wittman
I will make the bold prediction that most of my brothers and sisters will never join or use Twitter. I have one brother that does, occasionally, but the rest will never, ever use it. There's no point when they can get the same thing from Facebook and more.
- Jesse Stay
Re Mona: I myself didn't even bother to sign up for Twitter till this last June, when I discovered an existing online songwriting community I belong to had a Twitter presence. That's when I set up my account and started to use Twitter. Then I found that some of the NaNoWriMo offshoots I take part in also had a Twitter presence. That was the beginning. Since then I've built up a much...
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- Dennis Jernberg
my girlfriend has no interest in it either. she uses facebook for all her net communication needs and is quite happy...
- Terry O'Fee
I got all my friends to sign up for Twitter, all found it pointless. So, I really don't get the point either. I'll delete mine too. :D
- Faraz Mullick
Only a few of my real-life friends are even on Facebook, and the ones that are rarely update. The social web can be pretty disappointing sometimes.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
Most everyone I know is on Facebook now, with a few exceptions that refuse to use much of anything on the internet except for youtube and blogs. Nobody gets the point of twitter, especially with facebook/friendfeed offering the same type of communication options, if not more. However, the nice thing about twitter/friendfeed is that it's searchable. The other day I was watching the events from Fort Hood unfold on twitter. I couldn't do that easily on facebook. That's where twitter shines.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
My Second Life avatar started on Twitter in the good old days, when everyone you followed followed you back. But my real life account has about 20 followers, so it only really works as a reader - and that rocks.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
second life.. i read books like snow crash, get excited and find SL nothing like it ;)
- Terry O'Fee
If new users have no followers and fail to get the reader part, of course they stop. And the statistics confirm that.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
I do agree. It is really difficult to convince someone to use twitter. And even if I do, they don't stay active on the service. They too state "I don't see any point in the service". Often are the times when they are convincing me it is nothing but a blog platform with 140 characters limit.
- Amit
I've learned that it's not a good idea to try to convince friends to join Twitter. Unless they get it, they will simply annoy you with Facebook style Tweets. Better to seek out Twitter users who have learned the knack of posting interesting Tweets.
- Jimmy Walker
If she doesn't get it, or anyone else for that matter, be glad they're on their way. Twitter never worked for me either and I'm happily not participating as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I just realized I've been forgetting to tell them to start by following interesting people and not even think about posting their own tweets for the first little while (Robert's advice) - I wonder if that would make more of a difference.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
My 25 year old brother said the same thing.
- Rochelle
+Mona I think there is a follower critical mass that needs to be achieved (of real interacting/interesting people) before anyone 'gets' Twitter
- JSNFLMNG
from iPod
I see Twitter as another information portal, and a social channel (albeit limited). For those things it's great. I don't use facebook all that much, but it's good to chat with old friends to say howdy and share current happenings. I'm me no matter what social hub I'm on, but the local laws/rules/community etiquette fits my preferences better in some virtual hangouts.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
My daughter of about the same age also got and shortly thereafter canceled a twitter account.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Twitter is useful as a minimalist news broadcasting system. Twitter is worse than useless as a medium for conversation. I mostly use Twitter in combination with Topsy searches to pluck off the most interesting news stories of the day on selected topics. Without Topsy, I would stop using Twitter entirely because of the information overload.
- Sean McBride
Mona's point is pretty much spot on. I kind of "imported" a Revision 3 forum network into Twitter, which led to FriendFeed, which had sort of a recursive bend back into Twitter, which led to finding Twitter recommendations, which then opened me up to following people from IRL, and then...ah crap. I've stopped using Twitter as much, though, because Facebook is where the people I CARE about really are. And in case you're wondering, I'm friends with Mona on Facebook ;)
- Mike Nayyar
I've hit a wall trying to get my friends to sign up for Twitter. It's like they've got an image issue. Whenever I try to explain it's value for news and as RSS replacement, people sort of stop listening. They're left thinking it's Facebook without the "fun stuff," which is lesser and redundant for them.
- Jeremiah Green
Is it fair to say that the tweets related to tech news that some folks think are so wonderful and important are primarily links to web sites, blogs, new articles, and so on produced by someone other than the tweeter? So far as I've seen, subscribing to, say, all the employees of a company doesn't produce much news about the company; instead you see posts about where the employees ate lunch and stuff like that. Of course I may just not be looking at the right people.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Unless you have a defined business strategy, there really is not much point to Twitter, unless you just want to connect for fun, which is under my business strategy :)
- Steve Borgman
Actually I don't see the point either, but I'm still here :)
- scott willeke
I keep a Twitter account just for a case of emergency, because it gets translated everywhere, and their mobile client is the lightest.
- 9000
I have all three FB, FF and Twitter - FB is for people I know personally save very few exceptions, FF & Twiiter overlap and are people I tend to follow but I dont know from adam - I prefer FF tho . I now have GW as of last night but am still struggling to get the hang of it- will lose my twitter acct I think
- viki saigal
SuezanneC has summed twitter up quite well. None of my family use twitter, took me ages to 'get it' but although my family all use Facebook, I don't like it. I stay to keep in touch with them.
- Sandra Large
what? It's OK now? Or is it true that "Paul Bucheit wrote that they no longer had access to Twitter's firehose, so it sounds like it may have had something to do with Facebook's acquiring them, but don't quote me on that. - Jorge Escobar"
- Steve Gillmor
I think both Louis and Jorge are saying the same thing
- Jesse Stay
Right, I'd like to hear Paul or Bret confirm that.
- Steve Gillmor
Well, on a maybe related note, the Innovation Management Group (http://friendfeed.com/innovat...) has not updated for 24 hours now. That Group includes direct Twitter accounts, Twitter searches, Delicious RSS for a specific tag and SlideShares with a specific tag. No update at all for 24+ hours. Most odd and frustrating.
- Hutch Carpenter
also not finding older posts in search that used to be there. did this change too?
- Brooks Bayne
Twitter shut off the firehose, but made available a replacement API called birddog. We're about ready to switch that on (which will restore realtime Twitter updates), but are waiting on some final approvals from legal. I'm hoping it will all be resolved this week.
- Paul Buchheit
It has been wildly inconsistent lately. Sometimes it is right on time, other times there is a major delay.
- Rob Diana
Paul Bucheit wrote that they no longer had access to Twitter's firehose, so it sounds like it may have had something to do with Facebook's acquiring them, but don't quote me on that.
- Jorge Escobar
it's weird that twitter signed a deal to give access to google and bing, but friendfeed seems to have lost that deal.
- gregory
Paul or Bret: what is the latest status please?
- Steve Gillmor
The latest status? They're busy working valiantly on mincing the glory of their FriendFeed UI into the horror show that is Zuckerberg's Facebook UI.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from here to Twitter things are going live
- Johni Fisher
It was mentioned previously as being an issue with Twitter. They are polling now.
- Louis Gray
what? It's OK now? Or is it true that "Paul Bucheit wrote that they no longer had access to Twitter's firehose, so it sounds like it may have had something to do with Facebook's acquiring them, but don't quote me on that. - Jorge Escobar" -
- Steve Gillmor
I am trying to locate the conversation where he said this. But it's clear that Twitter is not giving FF the firehose for *some* reason. And they still aren't.
- Jorge Escobar
"The Twitter issue is a separate problem Jorge -- our realtime feed from them is gone, but we hope to get it restored soon. - Paul Buchheit" on Oct 26, 2009 http://friendfeed.com/paul...
- Micah Wittman
Awesome Micah, I was going nuts for a while. So without going to speculation what do you make of "Twitter's realtime feed from them is gone"? Is it scalability issues? But Google and Bing have no problems?
- Jorge Escobar
It's speculation, but I think it's Twitter saying "Ooopsy, now how did that happen? We'll put Top Men on it." and a Friendfeed Alum with "we hope to get it restored" as technically true, but belying that they know or suspect it's a TWTR business decision dragging-of-the-feet and not merely technical. But this can all be cleared up with an official statement :) Maybe I missed it - if so I apologize for wild speculation.
- Micah Wittman
Thanx Micah, Jorge. We'll wait for the update from Paul or Bret.
- Steve Gillmor
I wasn't seeing updates from Twitter to Friendfeed for 12 hours, but a manual refresh works ok. It is interesting to note the differences in 'real time' for Friendfeed, Twitter and FaceBook they all behave differently - only one of them seems to be 'real' real time -\
- Chris Loft
Aaaaand we're back on 'Cops' =P I can't take this: FF is slow tonight and nothing but 'Cops' on TV? I think Ima go play some Boggle on Pogo...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
There's like 50 eps of Dirty Jobs in a row. Use a naughty bits embargo to make it happen
- Matthew DeVries
Godfather was on earlier. I bet it's still on AMC.
- Trish R
He's flipping back and forth to a college football game (for a team he hates, no less). There may be some hope, though: he's now checking out movies on demand. FINGERS CROSSED PEOPLE!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hard to type with my appendages crossed like this
- Matthew DeVries
My dad is like that. Drives me nuts how ADD he is with the TV changer.
- Spidra Webster
Wow, this collecting old beds ep of Dirty Jobs is by far the most gross ep ever.
- Matthew DeVries
Your husband is turning into my dad. btw, my dad's name is Dave.
- Katy S
Boggle's a nice game. Do you ever play Tangleword? I used to be a Tangleword-aholic back when it was run on playsite.com and I think even before then. The current version, if it's still there, at whirled.com, isn't quite the same but it's not bad.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
did you know you can make a lot of money trading options, buying and selling stocks, buying foreclosed homes, using secrets to sell stuff online, ebay is a wonderland for making money, and then of course you can just get free money from the government
- Allen Stern
It's keeping me from getting the Swine flu from the rest of the family - keep it up! ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Louis - he's fickle. Pay him no mind.
- anna sauce
I've never had braces. And who doesn't like pickles. WAIT, WHUT?
- Derrick
I was a terrible person and was more than fashionably late for brunch (see http://ff.im/b7rct). Louis and Glen so very nicely waited for me when they could have left. We talked tech the whole time I was there. Scoble would have loved it. Actually we did talk about the twins some so maybe not. :P
- EricaJoy
Happy Birthday Mike and Jeremy! Hey Jeremy, I think we emailed each other once... your logo looks familiar. Ah, yes... you're in my gmail. Your wife did the art for Medieval Fantasy Festival in March. Small world!
- Trish Haley
/hangs up logic hat on rack and retires.
- Louis Gray
If all the tasty stuff of a cake comes from the sugar, why not use all sugar and no flour, eggs, or milk? ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit the chemist, ladies and gentlemen.
- Josh Haley
Because then no one would be on FriendFeed :-P
- Jesse Stay
because part of great ideas come from having them, a larger part comes from carrying them out.
- Vincent van Wylick
And because public business are in it to make money predictably, not from sporadic ideas that could potentially turn the whole business-model around.
- Vincent van Wylick
Because the inspiration often comes from the perspiration of the 80% work. Most people are not able to be inspired 100% of the time, though there are a few at Google who are.
- Bill Strathearn
Now how many people thought I was 100% serious on this question instead of just 20%? I'm getting a lot of 100% answers.
- Louis Gray
Do all Google's major innovations come from 20% time? I guess we'd have to start by agreeing on what those major innovations were.
- Cristo
Is "innovation" the emergence of new competitors from that time? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Maybe Google should give all of their employees 100 1% projects. Then they'd really have a bunch of new ideas. One exception, though; one person gets stuck modifying Gmail to let you see your mail in an unthreaded date plus time received order.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Neither Twitter nor FriendFeed came out of Google 20% time, as far as I know.
- Cristo
The all sugar cake is not only sweet and tasty; a big tablespoonful of it swallowed quickly, at the right time, often cures hiccups.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
I'd bet there are plenty of people at Google who do work this way.
- Kevin Gamble
I share this sentiment. There are services that need to be maintained but if you look at the new goodies being developed, it's all about freedom and creativity. Ok that's it I had to add you Louis to my tiny input stream on Twitter. Listing and group following you here wasn't enough. This tweet sealed the deal!
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
"Just before her sixth birthday, Elena Desserich (right) was diagnosed with brain cancer and given 135 days to live. She lived 255 days, passing away in 2007. After her death, Elena’s parents, Brooke and Keith, found hundreds of notes from Elena hidden around the house — in between CD cases, between bookshelves, in dresser drawers, in backpacks…."
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
Wow... that's cute and incredibly heavy all at the same time.
- SAM
It is so sad and heartwarming at the same time. Can't fathom what she must have gone through doing this and what her parents are going through finding the notes.
- jamar78
how her parents could come to terms with this; don't know what this feeling is called
- ffcode
It's fake. 255 days later they find all this stuff? I call bullshit. And using your dead kid to sell books is pretty low.
- KapitanObvious
It's a book to raise funds for a non-profit org. dedicated to fighting pediatric brain cancer. It's not as if they're taking the funds and vacationing in Hawaii.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Still sounds fake. Too many holes. Sorry.
- KapitanObvious
Story breaks my heart but as others have pointed out on other sites, it does seem a little fishy that nothing was noticed for a whole 255 days later.
- Andrew Trinh
I would imagine that for the 255 days the little girl lived, her parents were totally focused on giving her quality of life, not really noticing much of anything else. After she's gone, part of the recovery process for the parents is to re-organise the home, whereupon they start to discover these things. Or perhaps they found one note in a semi-obvious place and decided to investigate....
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- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Aww that is so sweet. Poor girl had to go soon :(
- AJ Batac
“When people think about computer science, they imagine people with pocket protectors and thick glasses who code all night,” Mayer jokes. “I do code all night! I am the stereotype, but I also break the stereotype.”
- Rachel Lea Fox
from Bookmarklet
Oh yeah - another developer to add to my Twitter list. I like adding girl developers.
- Jesse Stay
*holds up sign* MARRY ME MARISSA MAYER
- Mo Kargas
Mo, you might be too late, she is already engaged.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Mo, you're too young for her. Me, OTOH... Wait! She's engaged, Rachel??!
- directeur
Well the Paparazzi have photos of her ring all over the web. I just hope whatever she decides to do for her wedding she can keep the Paparazzi out.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Well, then... she's not really beautiful nor smart or with a funny and delicious laugh anyway...
- directeur
Sorry Rachel, I guess we caused confusion in your feed.
- Petek(UCB)_
Ahhh... okay. Thanks Anne. No worries at all Petek, I was just confused.
- Rachel Lea Fox
don't be confused .. this is Turkish style of talking :shock:
- stuck in the sky
:))) Rachel. All in all, women engineers can be both smart and good-looking as opposed to stereotypes.. I know a lot of them who can balance their personal and work lives and take good care of themselves at the same time...Thanks for sharing the link.
- Petek(UCB)_
we have lots of good-looking engineers here in Istanbul .. don't we? somebody here in this feed has to support me :) Petek .. i am just now talking to u .. Petek? where r u? Petek .. Peteeeeeekkk!!!
- stuck in the sky
Yes stuck..I guess so :)).. Unfortunately, I am not in Istanbul.
- Petek(UCB)_
but as a guess u can also say something about turkish pretty (!) engineers :) how long have u been there Petek? i will come to join u there sooner :)
- stuck in the sky
Stuck, I have been here for a while...You know what all my engineer friends are from Ankara! and yes my classmates are all nice and pretty ladies...and they are smart too...
- Petek(UCB)_
petek .. i was born in Ankara .. what a surprise .. hmmm .. tell me if i am wrong .. u graduated from ODTU .. didn't u? or Bilkent like me .. rachel gets more confused with every passing post eheheh ..
- stuck in the sky
then we won't talk to each other anymore petek .. i am from Bilkent hehehe ..
- stuck in the sky
Alright, so nobody will ever talk to me again after my confession: I am from Bogazici -neither Bilkentliler nor ODTU'luler like us- :)) but I definitely support your cause stuck, woman engineers in Turkey/Istanbul/Ankara ... are smart and beautiful..Yes we all are!
- Hande
Hande :))) this is cute:))) Btw, i have many friends from both Bogazici and Bilkent so i talk to everybody...I totally agree with you and moreover, women engineers, all over the world are smart and beautiful-We rock!
- Petek(UCB)_
hande .. i like ur school .. it comes after Bilkent in success u know .. i don't hate ODTUlüler but one day when i was a master student in my uni, they did not let me in to join to the fest in their uni .. this is why i do not prefer the engineers in ODTU :) moreover .. i had a girlfriend in ur uni .. the atmosphere in Boğaziçi was catastrophic (perfect) during those days .. i hope it is still like that ,, isn't it?
- stuck in the sky
as my confession .. i have lots of friends from ODTU .. what a shame :)
- stuck in the sky
The atmosphere is all the same as I hear from old friends..I miss the cats, the gorgeous Bosphorus view, watching films outside at night on 'Gunes meydan' with blankets and hot drinks,all my friends from Music Club..I miss every bit of my undergrad years..
- Hande
Cats, and dogs and the amazing view!! i love the Bogazici campus....i used to go to the alumni house almost two-three times a week when i was in Istanbul...and whenever i went there, i also sat by the "Manzara" and watched the ships go by:)))
- Petek(UCB)_
watching the ships .. it seems interesting :)
- stuck in the sky
yeah we ODTU people are just very interesting, stuck! i sat there, and just watched it.......
- Petek(UCB)_
I am a Turkish girl in Boston trying to finish her phd and a miyendis..:))
- Hande
then we decide that the campus of Boğaziçi is the best .. then bilkent of course and tail ender is ODTU .. heheh
- stuck in the sky
I bet it's the most beautiful campus in the world..
- Hande
i am planning to move to miami in a year .. do u have any info about there? asking both of u ..
- stuck in the sky
when you say phd, Hande, i must study!!!!!!! goodnight all:))) you know what you are jealous of our campus, Stuck- i dont like all building campuses..But yeah Bogazici campus is very beautiful-however it comes after Berkeley campus where you can also watch the ship go by in the Bay under biggggg red wood trees ;)) sorryyy..
- Petek(UCB)_
petek .. do not escape from the conversation .. come on!!! dont go anywhere .. u r kiddin ..
- stuck in the sky
I've never been there yet..The answer also depends on why you are coming and in what way you are asking this question..I have friends in Florida state uni. and I guess there is a somewhat big Turkish community (scholars) there..They say the cost of life is much cheaper than here in Boston-New York area and the weather is better..That's all I know.
- Hande
Petek. Disagree.. Boun campus has a waay better view than Berkeley.
- Ozgur Demir
Stuck, i really do not know much about Miami but if you ask about SF and California- i can be more helpful:)
- Petek(UCB)_
Ozgur, have you been to LBNL up in the hills?
- Petek(UCB)_
hmmm .. i am coming there for business purposes u know .. not for taking anymore education ..
- stuck in the sky
let me try to remember.. as far as I remember, it was beginning of spring.. yeah...
- Ozgur Demir
i should search for an area which is going to be safety and comfortable just for surviving myself .. :)
- stuck in the sky
Petek. Btw, personally I don't adore Boun at all... I am just talking about the view (:
- Ozgur Demir
Ozgur, I am thinking about the overall campus.- Berkeley has a better campus for sure but yeah, view is i guess better on BOUN. but i really get good views from around Berkeley..have you been to Indian Rock, btw?
- Petek(UCB)_
Not sure, one of our friends was escorting us (she was a student there) I am not that familiar with that area. So maybe yes, maybe no (: don't know.
- Ozgur Demir
skip the views of campuses guys :) tell me bt miami ahahah .. what a selfishness
- stuck in the sky
Ozgur, Go to Indian rock to watch sunset:))) and have your dinner with you:)) you will thank me:))
- Petek(UCB)_
Anybody from Miami??? i have never been to that part, @ stuck..
- Petek(UCB)_
Dear person who has been subbing to me every other Wed. or Thurs. for the past year: STOP IT. I'm not going to sub to you here. I'm not going to sub to you on Twitter. It is NOT happening. Unsubbing and resubbing does not make you look interesting.
^LOL To make it worse, I have never once seen anything they've posted here or on Twitter. Twitter is ALL @replies and RTs. Here, I see this person make a comment maybe once a month.
- Anika
It's a person and yes, I should have blocked long ago, but I wanted to see if it would last a year. It's so consistent that it's bordering on insanity.
- Anika
from fftogo
Sorry. Would it help if I tried Mondays and Tuesdays?
- joey
I can't see the point of throwing sheep. I'd much rather eat them.
- Ian May
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
- Sarah is Novembery
@Anika, I think I may know who this is, because I've been seeing the same thing.
- Jason Huebel
Are you sure it's subbing and unsubbing or deleting account and subbing?
- Rodfather
I think we all know who this person is. She's persistent; I'll give her that.
- Mark H
LOL @ public shaming. It's odd that an individual does it once a week, like a reminder pop-up.
- Trish R
I've heard other people complain about it and I've had one person who has done it 2-3 times but I don't know if it is the same person.
- Dragon Goldmaple
"We are just destined to be really, really good friends who only hang out when I don't have a boyfriend, but still need male attention to boost my fragile and all-consuming ego."
- Ana
from Bookmarklet
"Don't worry. You're so funny and smart and amazing, any girl but me would be lucky to date you. You'll find someone, I know it. And when you do, I'll be right by your side to suddenly become all flirty and affectionate with you in front of her, until she grows jealous and won't believe it when you say we're just friends. But when she dumps you, that's just what we'll be."
- Dan Hsiao
The conclusion of this article finds the Onion in top form.
- Andrew C
translation: I am not into you like that. You don't do it for me in that way. Never did. never will. Sorry, but only sort of...
- Morgan Haley
The "my mom says hi" part is a nice way to twist the knife a bit.
- Brian Chang
"Like any expectant mother, Panang the elephant wants the very best for her baby, which is evident as she carefully performs her maternity exercises. Guided by her minder Andi Fries, the 20-year-old elephant did a series of stretches in her pen at the Tierpark Hellabrunn Zoo in Munich. Panang, who is nearing the end of her two-year gestation period, is due to give birth this month or next."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
I am beginning to finally get it... If you post on Friendfeed you get comments... If you post on Twitter, you get followers. If you are marketing something (e.g. your blog/brand, your product/service) getting followers is much better than getting comments.
You need to than unfollow those users...:)) Twitter is a lot more about broadcasting and getting followers is like a drug.. the more you broadcast the more followers you get :)
- Bindu Reddy
Getting followers doesn't really mean anything: 390 of the 400 followers I have on Twitter never act or do anything with what I say on it. Getting them to convert is the meaningful part of the marketing proposition, and conversations, I've found, are far more effective at that.
- Mark Trapp
So, what's the FAQ for interaction on Twitter? I had a post that got 100+ comments the other day here on Friendfeed but no response on Twitter. I must be doing something wrong over there.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
twitter seems to be great for people who are lazy and not really savvy about marketing. it's sort of like shouting into the void, and you might get a few people to respond, but do you really get people to act?
- Bren, Photophobe
@Mark, I agree with you.. However to a lot of people having a follower number like 10K/20K, which seems like a relatively easily thing to do on Twitter, is not only just a high but it is also a good way to keep in touch with your audience without spending too much time... Here keeping in touch with your audience is way more time consuming
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, but keeping in touch doesn't mean anything if they're not listening. You can have a million followers, but if you're not getting any of them to act on what you're saying, it doesn't mean much. Getting conversations going with people, who may or may not be followers, which Twitter is pretty bad at, are more effective at getting people to convert. I just had a relatively popular...
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- Mark Trapp
Bindu, I'm following you (FF) and I just commented too :)
- Micah Wittman
@Mark, Curious how did you get them to go to your website?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, if I knew that I'd have it made. Near as I can tell, people were doing Twitter and Google searches for "twitter list," and then started retweeting it and sharing it from there.
- Mark Trapp
Following is such a low-risk endeavor that people don't put thought into it: they'll follow anyone and everyone. You even have people thinking it's common decency to automatically follow people if they follow you without even thinking about if their content is interesting. Following is the 21st century equivalent of receiving a phone book or the yellow pages: you do it just in case you need to contact or get ahold of someone in the future, but nobody ever realistically does.
- Mark Trapp
Yep, it's like collecting business cards that get neatly filed into a big binder. It's about the self-satisfaction of the collection - you feel more connected / networked / important and avoid doing the hard work of cold calling or meeting with people and building something or whatever.
- Micah Wittman
I agree with following being a low-risk effort... However I have also heard of ppl gaining value from Twitter without much effort. Take for example this coffeshop I am a big fan of - sightglass coffee. They get a lot of customers from Twitter. It takes them relatively little time to tweet and they get customers. It would be very hard to achieve the same on FF.
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get lots of conversation on Twitter, too. One of the reasons I am there more than here is because people with common interest in my political obsessions are there, but not here.
- Karoli
Karoli - Yes, the Twitterverse is way more diverse than the FFverse. Curious do you get more comments/conversations per post on Twitter as compared to FF or is it that you you post more stuff because time spent per post is lower on Twitter
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get very little response to political conversations/comments on FF - a couple of folks follow here but a very small percentage compared to twitter. I tried to pull people over here, but they didn't understand why they should leave tweetdeck and their twitter setup for new territory.
- Karoli
Geeks (+ early adopters, influential folks, the elite ...) are on FriendFeed and the proletariat on Twitter? Long live the dictatorship of the proletariat? Calls for action work best when the audience actually cares, so prolly that's all about choosing the right medium for the targeted punters?
- Sebastian
Sebastian... yes agree the geeks and tech bloggers are on FF... However if you are marketing say a fashion or beauty blog. You won't get much interest here. twitter is the place for you :)
- Bindu Reddy
I disagree with that statement, Bindu. There's a LOT of non-tech getting traction on FriendFeed. So much so that it's the number one reason Scoble no longer enjoys being here: he says he doesn't see enough tech for his liking.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Just butting in here to mention that there are tons of uses for both twitter and friendfeed that have nothing whatsoever to do with marketing. In fact, once could make the argument that social networks such as these were designed to get away from marketing. Unlike radio, TV, or even a web search, you choose who you'll be receiving information from. If you're looking to exchange...
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- Mr. Gunn
Bindu, what I'm sick of is marketers broadcasting their sales pitches to all social media outlets out there, regardless whether the audience might fit or not. Anyways, i'ts possible to attract a few somewhat intelligent responses to geeky topics at Twitter, at least when xmas and independence day share the same date. Most probably I wouldn't try to sell wonder bras at FF, though.
- Sebastian
@Tina ... umm I have not been an avid user of FF lately so maybe it has become pretty diverse. Are you saying there are a lot of people on here with specific interests such as politics, beauty etc?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: Ning is a better place to go if you have very specific topics you want to talk about. They are growing a FriendFeed every 12 days (they are getting a million new users that often and have just passed 38 million registered). FriendFeed is fun if you aren't sure what you want to chat about and you're cool with seeing lots of family pictures and goofy stuff. Tina is right that the hard-core geeks are mostly on Twitter or Facebook now, I keep watching here, though.
- Robert Scoble
Karoli I get all kinds of action here on political topics. I have more followers on Twitter but rarely get a response there. Here I got 80+ comments yesterday.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
MVB, Karoli is a prolific voice on twitter. Twitter seems quite effective for political advocacy/activism even though longer form convos have to break out somewhere else. Also, just like friendfeed, volume / steady presence can make all the difference. Your tweet count is ~2K; Karoli's over 63K.
- Micah Wittman
My presence here is similar to Kaoli's on Twitter, then. So, presence is a mitigating factor. But, Micah, as you so deftly point out, for a long conversation there needs to be a move to another venue. That's where here works better, since it can stay right here.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
We agree, and can agreed at length right here, folks :)
- Micah Wittman
So link your twitter to your friendfeed. Get followers and comments. The best of both worlds.
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Does it make any difference here whether the original post was to Twitter and reposted here automatically or the original post was directly here? In other words, does the FF community prefer to comment on direct posts rather than Twitter reposts?
- Jimmy Walker
Jimmy: it honestly depends on who you interact with on FriendFeed. There are people who get irate about people only posting to Twitter and openly advocate using FriendFeed directly, and yet, there are interesting people who always get a conversation going around their tweets. One thing that sometimes helps is coming back to FriendFeed and elaborating on your tweet, or to do more than...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark, that sounds like good advice. Thanks.
- Jimmy Walker
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- 1Fathi
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- AɖoɱidƏ
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- 1Fathi