We have received numerous reports of excessive FriendFeed posts showing up in Facebook this evening. While we are not 100% sure, it appears to be an issue on Facebook's end due to ignoring application settings. We have disabled all FriendFeed updates to Facebook until we are sure the problem is resolved.
See http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... for more information - it seems to also have impacted Twitter's Facebook app. Again, we are not sure if it is a problem on our end or not, but we are investigating now.
- Bret Taylor
No problem, if I knew it was on your end, I wouldn't have cared, but thanks for letting me know about the situation. I was confused because it happened right as I was trying out a new twitter game. This was compounded by the fact that the game has no controls for turning off public messages. I'll bet they plan to add them later, but right now they want everyone to hear about it. It’s a...
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- Michael Fidler
So, is it fixed?Every tweet, every everything is showing up as individual news feed posts for all my friends, this is too much and I'm likely to piss them all off. Options ... 1.Stop tweeting etc. 2.Ditch the FF Facebook application. Hmmm, it's a no brainer. Anyone got any updates on this?
- Michael M Bailey
A single sperm has 37.5MB of DNA information in it. That means that a normal ejaculation represents a data transfer of 1,587.5TB - http://inothernews.tumblr.com/post...
So I had to calculate this out: the HGP estimates that the human genome is about 3 billion base pairs (3Gbp) long (Their count includes 22 chromosomes+X+Y) which can be used as an estimate for how many base pairs are in a haploid gamete. Since each base pair can have 4 different values (A-T/T-A/G-C/C-G) a base pair basically encodes 2 bits of information. So 3 billion base pairs = 6 gigabits = 750 MB. On average, there are about 250 million sperm per ejaculation, so that comes (pardon the pun) to 1.875 petabytes of information. Of course, there's a lot of redundancy in that information, but 1.875 petabytes in about 2 teaspoons of volume is impressive in terms of information density. (Bear in mind, my mathematical skills are fairly weak, and I could've gotten this calculation very wrong.)
- Victor Ganata
Another great post! :-) Informational, true, and funny. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I don't think it's possible for me to love this entire conversation more than I do RIGHT NOW. And I love all of you for making it happen.
- Hookuh Tinypants
does a vasectomy result in a lower data density I wonder?
- jeff hammond
@jeff: it shouldn't; the testicles will still produce the same volume of sperm as before. They just won't go anywhere. The body reabsorbs the sperm over time. So...kind of like performing a regularly-scheduled defrag?
- Hookuh Tinypants
I wonder how much data a virus contains? It'd be interesting to compare a virus attack to a pregnancy attempt just in terms of data transmission. I'd think virii carry much less data...
- iTad
from fftogo
Aaagh! It's viruses!!!!!!111!!!1111!!111
- Victor Ganata
Sorry, Tad. Major pet peeve of mine ;)
- Victor Ganata
You OK, man? Srsly, here, sit down. Have a beverage. Relax a bit. Maybe read a few entries over at FML or AwkwardFamilyPhotos...
- Hookuh Tinypants
Isn't the overwhelming fraction of the human genome "junk DNA"?
- Andrew C (✓)
"Junk DNA" is kind of a misnomer, though. It's more accurate to say we don't really know what they do. Some sequences are pseudogenes, which are evolutionary relics. Other sequences are retrotransposons--molecular parasites that embed themselves into an organism's genome and copy themselves endlessly. But there are areas of non-coding DNA that are involved in the regulation of gene...
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- Victor Ganata
p.s. we have determined that we have sufficient enterprise storage capacity to continue with the release.
- Sparky, lurking
I think Petabytes is a very appropriate term for this discussion.
- Kenton
Now I'm wondering if it's possible to ejaculate as often as you cough when you're sick.... Still, you'd have to be sick with the flu and cough 3,000 times to match the throughput of a single ejaculation :D
- Victor Ganata
Thinking (with some regret) about all those sperm I lost so casually in my youth, and how much smarter I might be today if I'd listened to my spiritual mentors!
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
Waseem Sadiq, CTO (left) and Khuram Hussain are showing me how you can send emails and messages to Twitter, Facebook, and others. It is in private beta now, will launch later this year. http://www.inbox2.com Does all sorts of useful stuff like forwarding, copying, etc. "It is really hard to build a good email client," says Sadiq. They nailed it, must try it.
- Robert Scoble
Very cool. I can imagine this being something to tie me over until Google Wave is released. I presume the transition to Google Wave from Inbox2 will be a ease?
- Vinko
Robert, thx for the plug! Everybody that wants an invite just leave your email address on the website (www.inbox2.com), will take a few weeks before you get one tho, due to the infrastructure we're setting up to serve u all :-)
- Waseem Sadiq
'a few weeks'!! we'll have all forgotten about it by then! -- you've got our interest now (it's about 20 people, how much infrastructure would be required?)
- Paul
Hehe that is true, but if I let you guys in now I might end up spoiling the zen like email experience once its good enough. I'll tell you what, if you are willing to try out the product and tell us how we can improve it, or blog about it, Í will get you an invite (waseem at inbox2 dot com)
- Waseem Sadiq
Welcome Baby Ryan!!! My baby Ryan (17 years!) and I are honored to welcome another superstar to our planet! Love, hugs, and lots of kisses to Baby Ryan, Mommy Maryam, Dad Robert and big brothers Milan & Patrick and of course Grandma!!! My guess on Ryan's arrival (predication) was only 23 hours off. I thought he would arrive on Friday, Sept. 18th at 11:45 pm. Love to all, Kelly & Ryan Kim
- Kelly S. Kim
What a moment, eh? I remember when my daughter came into this world, it was so exciting there were no words for it. Congrats on your wonderful baby boy!
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
Congratulations! Welcome to the world, Ryan. :-)
- Yvette Ferry
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome Ryan. If I was having a baby today, I'd begin a blog for him/her straight away as an online diary they could look back on when grown up.
- Technogran
الهــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــی چقده ناز نازیه.اینو فارسی نوشتم مریم جان بخونن ....راستی به باباش که نرفته:)) خوشگلتره:)) پس به شما رفته
- joupy
I was a c-section six week preemie in an era when that was seriously life-threatening, they didn't know if I would make for the first week. It always gets me a see a c-section / preemie come howling into the world. Welcome, little guy!
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
Beautiful baby! Congratulations daddy man :)
- Gary
:) Congrats Robert... best wishes to your family! Get her name in twitter and ff!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
Right ON! I am so happy for you. I have 4 kids of my own and they are my greatest joys. Take care and I hope all goes so smooth for him and mom.
- Robert Anderson
Daddy Scobleizer!!!!!!!!!! First things first....when will he be signed up for Twitter and FF?
- krystyl
Congrats! I wish a long and healthy life.
- Muammer Okumuş
Robert, you newest addition is too freaking adorable. I hope you and Maryam are doing well. Congratulations! Here's to a long, prosperous future!
- Mike Nayyar
congrats to you and Maryam! And welcome, RSS!
- Joshua Allen
from fftogo
IMAP is still running fine. If you are using Thunderbird, the setup is easy as 123. The only catch to this is if you've enabled your IMAP on Gmail. If not, you're out of luck.
- AJ Batac :)
Working for me. Their update from 1:02pm Pacific (30 minutes ago) says: "Google Mail service has already been restored for some users, and we expect a resolution for all users within the next 1.2 hours. Please note this time frame is an estimate and may change. Users can access their email via IMAP or POP. You can find instructions for how to do this here: http://mail.google.com/support.... "
- Stephen Mack
The closely held company won't disclose basic data about its business (such as total charity expenditures), and it's gone to some length to shelter assets in secretive tax havens: The Fijian operation, according to court documents filed last year, is owned by an entity in Luxembourg, while its American trademarks are registered to an address in the Cayman Islands. Fiji Water, for its part, has trademarked the word "FIJI" (in capital letters) in numerous countries. (Some rejected the application, but not the United States.) It has also gone after rival Fijian bottlers daring to use their country's name for marketing. "It would have cost too much money for us to fight in court," says Mohammed Altaaf, the owner of Aqua Pacific water, which ended up taking the word "Fiji" out of its name. "It's just like branding a water America Water and denying anyone else the right to use the name 'America.'"
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
Bottled water has a function but as a daily indulgence should die. This company is exporting water from a small country that does not provide basic access to clean drinking water for all of it's population.
- Glenn Williams
Of course the US approved the trademark....
- Ed Griebel
The downside for me? I invest time in things that WILL BE not that are. That’s always been what keeps my interest and now that I know that FriendFeed probably will not be, even if it takes five years to totally die, I’ve lost a great deal of interest in it. – Robert Scoble
- Thomas Hawk
After sleeping on the acquisition news I have two thoughts. 1. Maybe, just maybe, enough of the really good FriendFeed features will somehow make their way into Facebook and Facebook will actually get tolerable enough to use. Actually I’m not optimistic, but I will begin spending more time and using Facebook more because of this. I logged on yesterday for the first time in a while and...
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- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - agree with you on focusing on who (people/your company) and not what (network). I posted my thoughts about the conversations here and what it means for individuals and organizations today http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
- Valeria Maltoni
Maybe FB folks will read these comments and think about keeping FF. Have they heard about segmenting the market?
- Leigh Marriner
Leigh, unfortunately the community of FF users is likely of zero concern to Facebook at all. We are a drop in their proverbial bucket. They probably could care less if we all went away. Facebook has no time to deal with some piddly little one million user community like FF when they've got hundreds of million to serve and need to compete against much larger entities. What remains is a void and I wonder if some talented engineer somewhere might be able to come up with something compelling.
- Thomas Hawk
Friendfeed got me to question the way I interact with the web.. one place for my content and conversations, leverage known experts to search through the crap, combined with a flexible open platform that can quickly morphed/integrated into various shapes/forms. After my trip (http://ff.im/4gfo2) I'm starting from scratch.. so I'm looking at friendfeed and asking what CAN'T it to for me?...
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- Chris Myles
I know FF might not be the most popular place for this now, but I <3 Cristo!
- Clare Dibble
This just makes me sad. FF is still the best option out there, and though it is no longer a "will be", there's no other good replacement for it right now. FB certainly isn't. Twitter isn't. Posterous isn't... If Robert called for someone to recreate FF (and improve on it) he probably has the influence to make it happen, mold it even more toward his ideal. But instead, just wiping his...
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- Lindsay
FF set a benchmark for how to use the streams of the internet in an open and social way. Paul and Bret along with the awesome FF team demonstrated and inspired the use of communication technologies that gave us a paradigm shift a kin to Ward Cunningham's 'Edit' function (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) which gave birth to the wiki ideology. They invented something that we...
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- zeroinfluencer
I recently saw something about the founder of delicious, who left for Google when Yahoo acquired delicious. It made me think that delicious is mostly the same as it was before Yahoo acquired it. There have been changes, but it is still a separate entity, with its own domain name and logo. Maybe this could work for facebook + friendfeed too.
- Robert Felty
Robert: yes. I don't sense that FriendFeed will be turned off. That would be pretty stupid. But it will be interesting to see what happens to it and how they integrate it into Facebook itself. Unfortunately FriendFeed's systems were built to handle a few million people, not hundreds of millions of people, so it would probably need significant work to integrate it into Facebook. I hope to learn more soon from both teams about what will happen.
- Robert Scoble
I was just catching up on exactly what Google Wave is, and I honestly think it has the potential of replacing nearly all our collaborative communication needs, even sites like FF. It seems crazy, but I often think about the digtial communication systems of the past (email, forums, IM) and how they never really went away, but they kept giving way to something 'new' that did certain things better but other things worse.
- Ben Reierson
WAVE seems to do pretty much everything that all those past systems did, AND it has the real-time aspects of FF. All you'd need to do is add in the aggregation bit, and you're there. I love the idea of having ONE place for all my communications. No longer would I need outlook + FF + IM + Twitter. I could just have various groups of waves, all of them 'alive' with data.
- Ben Reierson
I think Wave has lots of potential too. I got to play with it briefly and it was pretty confusing to use (though it also seemed to be encountering bugs when I was using it which contributed to the confusion). I think it or something like it will eventually replace the standards we use for online communication but it will be a learning curve, definitely. Also, it will need some means of discovery... FriendFeed's FoaF does a great job of finding me people with similar interests.
- Lindsay
I think Wave has lots of potential too. I got to play with it briefly and it was pretty confusing to use (though it also seemed to be encountering bugs when I was using it which contributed to the confusion). I think it or something like it will eventually replace the standards we use for online communication but it will be a learning curve, definitely. Also, it will need some means of discovery... FriendFeed's FoaF does a great job of finding me people with similar interests.
- Lindsay
I like all the ideas I'm hearing here. I was absolutely blown away by the Wave demo, and Building 43 seems like a very logical home for any FF replacement. Then, of course, there's the clone that Akiva says some friends of his are working on . . .
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
I remember when FriendFeed was available only through VT100 terminals.
- Jemm
I even remember what it was like before Alex Scoble got here. But I never knew a time without Louis Gray. And, before Paul? Well, there was Twitter. I remember that time well. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mark: rrrriiiiiggggghhhhttttt. Write your own, I guess is the option.
- Robert Scoble
Mona was a much more attractive Scoble. "Queen of FriendFeed" as I recall.
- DGentry
I too was here long before Scoble but thankfully I've gotten to know him much better after his arrival. Death to Scoble...Long live Scoble.
- Mark Krynsky
There was a "before Robert Scoble got here"?
- Morton Fox
BRS (Before Robert Scoble) will be a new measurement of time.
- Jemm
I think BS (Before Scoble) would be better. ;) Just kidding Robert
- Keith - @tsudo
I'm pretty sure Scoble was here when I got here, but I followed Louise Gray here and Scoble was quiet back then. His Twitter followers weren't following him en masse to FF like they apparently do now.
- Rah-PM 2012
I don't remember but I love that quote anyway. That needs to show up in my feed again.
- Martha
Molly... how is it insulting him.. he is in this thread joking along with it... not sure he feels insulted, maybe he would say so if he was..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Molly: if you think this is insulting you should read some of the people over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I remember FriendFeed on a 28.8k modem. I'm totally being serious. This whole real-time thing would have sucked. Oh, and yes, I remember FriendFeed before Robert. ;-)
- Zach Flauaus
I left Twitter for Jaiku. Then Jaiku left me for Google. I moved in with Pownce but it died. I went back to Twitter, but flirted with Plurk, Identica, and Rejaw, and even tried doing it myself with Laconica but it was Twitter I really loved. Twitter finally broke my heart so I left it for Friendfeed. Now Friendfeed is leaving me for Facebook. No...
It reads better than Soap - my roadmap is very similar but I'll forgive FF and live happily ever after with it (for the time being, anyway)
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
You're the best Leo. Canadians are the funniest people.
- Dan Lessard
I'm betting they'll slowly digest it into the Facebook news feed. They claim that Friendfeed is staying put for now, but that won't last.
- Ken Bauer
And we keep following Leo all over the place!
- Robert Scoble
When will we all get in a long term relationship and stop getting our hearts broken?
- Nate Pilling
so what is more important, the medium or the people, hope that FF will let us export our content, and our social netork :) (in my wild dreams)
- abdellah
Need ice cream? I'm new to FF, and kind of sad I didn't jump on the proverbial wagon sooner!
- Elizabeth K. Barone
I hope you leave your standard breadcrumbs so we can find you in the next chapter of social interaction.
- JCunwired
Feels to me like maybe it's time to go back to building a distributed network, rather than hopping from service to service.
- Ken Sheppardson
But where to next? That's the question. Wave sounds great, but the implementation will be a PAIN. So where? Oh LeoMoses...where is our path in the desert?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Sounds like a hurtin' country song in the making.
- Bill Rodman
Well you can't say that what is happening in the 'social sphere' is boring by any means!
- Matt Cassem
I think Leo's audience is more likely to click "Like" or "comment" than Scoble's is. When Leo and Rob are both posting on FF, Leo gets more likes and comments
- Mark
Didn't you leave a post earlier saying how funny it was that people complain anytime there's a change (referring to the FF buyout)? This sounds like a complaint to me.
- Fleagle
Not complaining - just thinking about the future. I think a little Friendfeed DNA will vastly improve Facebook. And I think Facebook is already the big winner with the general populace. I also think we geeks need a corner somewhere else to hang out in.
- Leo Laporte
And I have no plans to leave Friendfeed. Yet.
- Leo Laporte
I feel more of a personal connection with the FriendFeed team than I have with other services I've left, and that will be a big part of why I will stay as long as possible.
- Louis Gray
^^^ replace "team" with "community" and there's my reason for sticking it out.
- JCunwired
Its also going to take a very long time to go through content and bookmark/store it elsewhere. Evernote is going to be used heavily in the weeks to come.
- JCunwired
The only way to have control is to use your own URL
- Craig Shipp
Wait till you meet Facebook's randy cousin Overly Friendly Book =)
- Cynthia Yildirim
what Louis gray said. I'm going to hang around until the lights go out.
- Jordan Brock
from BuddyFeed
What they said, I don't see any reason to leave FriendFeed unless something actually changes that makes the service worthless to me.
- Craig B.
And many times you cheated Twitter, she was always loyal to you. Thats mean someting!
- Jacque
from m.ctor.org
yup me too Louis and I don't know any of them
- Thomas Power
Users today are investors too - only the 'exit' for us is not lucrative.... its the other way sometimes :)
- Mrinal Desai
I just had the idea: wow, how good will Faceboook become though this input? (JUST imagine tagging ppl in FB the way U can Tag them in FF.)
- oliver gassner
Don't worry Leo, its not you, its them...
- Steven McGurn
I agree with Jonathan Hardesty "It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives" - And sites keep getting killed off only to come back to life a month later!
- Amy Flynn
very true, however on the other hand, we are getting closer to that one service which everyone will be on... and I dont think twitter is going to be that one
- Bryce Campbell
Facebook buying FriendFeed is like having to MOVE just when you got your house all dressed up and made into a comfy HOME! I don't feel like doing it again!
- Arleen Boyd
Now that Facebook and Friendfeed have married, I'm waiting for Twitfacefeedplebospacening.
- Anthony Marco
Leo, u by your self made two companies (services) out of 3 famous and made Google interested enough to buy 2 of them (Jaiku & FF). Google also tried to flirt with Twitter as well. So which one u choose now? Cause we will follow u :P
- Sam Ehsan
Sounds like some of my past love affairs. Of course, I'm married now. That, um, was prior.
- Paul Chaney
Feeling a bit worn around the edges? ... me too!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Speaking of Days Of Our Lives: Didn't that show jump the shark when the serial killer was unmasked as Marlena (a character I used to have a mad crush on, and who's now mostly a professional victim)? Then all the "killed" characters came back to life, since they were only what I call "soap opera dead"...
- Dennis Jernberg
And if everyone follows you, then your all having affairs all over the place! LOL
- Technogran
I think it's back to the TWiT Army!
- Paul Salzman
It's not like we have proposed Healthcare reform, or anything really important, going on in the U.S.A.
- Steve de Mena
I've decided I'm not going to tell ANYONE which site I'm favoring... not even myself! I swear! As soon as I decided that FF was my new place (a couple months ago) THIS happens! It's like magic, but in a bad bad way...
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
Why do we all assume this is a bad thing? Maybe the FF Facebook combo will be better??
- Craig Shipp
Maybe they'll keep both open -- FF is the open side, and FB is the closed side.
- John Flinchbaugh
from IM
I know exactly how you feel. What's a person to do? I am mad at Twitter for suspending some of my accounts. First, the accounts kept causing the password to reset, then they were suspended, all around the time of the DOS attacks. All I ever used Twitter for was to advertise my businesses, and for fun. Now I don't know where to go.
- DogPatch
It's like my beloved Archie comics romantic twists from childhood! Archie loves Veronica who loves Reggie who loves Betty who loves Archie... ;)
- Shawn Zehnder Rossi
한글 와서~ 루거 .. 당신은 정말 잘 생기고있다 누드 사진 기다리다 :]
- HealingBrush
One of the funniest sad stories I've heard in a long time...
- Aviva Gabriel
Gotta find one who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. One who looks like a woman, but thinks like a man. One who tells you you're the only person in their world and worships the ground you walk on. One who's from Venus but want's to live on Mars. One who you know will always be there even when the chips are down. One who looks like a movie star, but doesn't bust the credit...
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- Jan Simmonds
I think a lot of people LOVE to think negatively and don't want to think positively. They think FB is BAD and will ruin FF, but I think if they do it well, FB won't be the bad guy. I think most people who are irked about this are irked because they think the FFers "sold out" to the "man".
- Mol, FF Music Lover
@Mollyanna - I disagree. I am irked because the future of FF is completely uncertain. It's more likely that FB will let FF flounder and close it down than it is that FB will invest time and resources in maintaining and enhancing FF. FB has other interests and is splitting up the FF dev team. That does not bode well for FF. I don't begrudge the FF devs for taking the money. I would be...
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- Lindsay
Leo, I hope you mention FriendFeed in your Dubai TED talk ! :) I'll try to be there !
- Ahsan Ali
@ian - "Wordsmith. Public relations undergraduate at The University of Texas. Feminist Capitalist. WordPress geek. Future commercial rights attorney"...surely that kind of asinine comment is beneath you!
- Jan Simmonds
OMG, I can't even stay connected to Facebook at all. Been trying to chat with a friend (using Adium) and connect...disconnect...connect...etc.
- Kenley Neufeld
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
interesting possibility: a massive DoS attack on all SNS properties at the same time! with no SNS people might go at each other tooth and nail. this would make a great Onion report!
- MikeAmundsen
I'm with Helen on this one - after Scoble's Great Unfollow, Twitter's database is so full of holes they're having to do a massive reorg...
- Andrew Terry
Posterous seems to be down, too, for what it's worth.
- Eric Johnson
Posterous is working for me (for now)
- Susan Beebe
You can read "panic tweets" from Twitterers about Twitter being down: http://bit.ly/lA7HK
- Gus
@ Andrew - there's a model in Chaos Theory where you take a cube, hollow a hole in the exact centre of each side, then keep repeating the process - end result? A finite cube containing an infinite number of holes :)
- Iain Baker
Susan - Posterous is back for me, too. And was a 500 server error, so probably not DoS related.
- Eric Johnson
So I guess we ought to help the folks at Twitter out and shut down our Twitter clients? I expect that zillions of API calls aren't helping their situation right now...
- Eric Johnson
Facebook, LiveJournal, and Twitter all down, to much of a coincidence to be a coincidence? API calls all the way
- courtney benson
Wondering now if that suggestions a massive DDoS attack launched against a bunch of sites, or possibly also infrastructure issues as well?
- Susan Beebe
my FF has crashed every time I've tried to subscibe
- WarLord
It does feel like everything's either under treacle or attack. I'm hoping it's treacle.
- Dan Biddle
@biz ---> Thursday, August 06, 2009 Denial of Service Attack On this otherwise happy Thursday morning, Twitter is the target of a denial of service attack. Attacks such as this are malicious efforts orchestrated to disrupt and make unavailable services such as online banks, credit card payment gateways, and in this case, Twitter for intended customers or users. We are defending against...
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- Susan Beebe
Thought that was just my slow Australian connection - or the huge full moon in the sky tonight o)
- Chris Loft
Of course there is, the two sites are highly interconnected and trouble with one will cause problems with any service which continues to access twitter to update their users profiles
- Lillian Banchik
Chris Loft - of course everything takes longer to get to Australia! I'm with amygeek - let's blame it on N. Korea...
- Baffled
from fftogo
Ohhh... I don't recall Twitter being down for such a long period of time, although I must say I've seen a sudden rise of spam lately.
- Bruno Mertins
God, just figured out that we would all have to go back to talking to one another in person or on the phone if this continues.
- courtney benson
cnet article, "There has been no indication that any of these various attacks are connected. But it's probably not a coincidence that they all coincide with the annual Defcon hacker convention." (Twitter crippled by denial-of-service attack) -- http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Susan Beebe
Baffled I've been trying to post this to you at Twitter -- I knew a hooter / thought - did she have a suitor / or was I too late? /// #haiku#haikuchallenge
- Chris Loft
I wonder how much impact (think overhead) those stupid Spam Bots cause for twitter? 24% of all twitter traffic is due to spam bots - augh!
- Susan Beebe
Courtney - LOL ... that is too funny!
- Susan Beebe
They're probably both the government. Real talk.
- professor daddyo
military is testing inet/SNS preparedness/vulns.
- MikeAmundsen
About 8-12 hrs ago, Facebook kept giving me "Database Write Failed" errors: "An error occurred while writing to our database. Please try again later or contact customer support."
- Mitchell Tsai
Yep, I've been getting all kinds of Facebook "transport errors" while attempting to wall post, comment, etc.
- Susan Beebe
Derek - that was slow, but CNN is getting better! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Twitter Status Blog - 2nd Update: "Ongoing denial-of-service attack -- We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly. Update: the site is back up, but we are continuing to defend against and recover from this attack."
- Susan Beebe
No way! Remember Paul Buchheit, one of FriendFeed's founders, coined the term "Do No Evil" when he was at Google. The FF team is really cool, no bad dudes over there!
- Susan Beebe
FWIW, I always thought Google's catchphrase "do no evil" would have been better when qualifying a statement, like this: "Let the old lady finish crossing the street; don't be evil"
- Richard Walker
Twitter Status Blog UPDATE [12:46pm EST] : "Update (9:46a): As we recover, users will experience some longer load times and slowness. This includes timeouts to API clients. We’re working to get back to 100% as quickly as we can."
- Susan Beebe
Here's a Facebook "Database Write Error" I saw repeatedly last night ~1-3 am ET, before the DDoS attacks this morning. http://ff.im/6fUfO I'm not sure if there weren't precursors to the main DDoS attacks at 6 am today, but Facebook was having weird issues a few hours earlier.
- Mitchell Tsai
Facebook kept giving me the ol' "transport error" messages - tons of 'em too!
- Susan Beebe
Funny. I could not log into Twitter, Tweetdeck or Facebook for over an hour. Then I had this sudden horror that an aweful event, such as a terrorist attack, would flood both sites with traffic and cause this. I went to CNN- there was the story of Twitters DDoS Attack.
- E-Advocate Network
Pretty scary stuff, huh? I wonder who would be behind all this. Hope they catch 'em and lock 'em up!
- Susan Beebe
Susan, I also got lots of AJAX transport errors & long delays at Facebook, but those happena ll the time. This was the first time I've seen the "database write error".
- Mitchell Tsai
To deal with future network problems, we need an emergency backup mechanism to access twitter: carrier pigeons. http://crankypm.com/2009...
- DGentry
Hope they catch them too Susan. I sure was releived to find it was a cyber attack causing the flood instead of people reporting on a real life attack though! I do worry about real time events right now that are lagging coverage due to this: #iranelection.
- E-Advocate Network
Yay!! Google, facebook and twitter are investigating the DDoS attacks today! See Mashable's post about it here: http://mashable.com/2009...
- Susan Beebe
Seriously, even Friendfeend, via Buddyfeed client, was unavailable a few times. I'll venture a guess the DoS attack targetted a whole heap of social media at the one time.
- George Hall (Australia)
That bird pic at the top of the thread is intriguing. Is it public domain?
- George Hall (Australia)
Hardly use Facebook. When I update facebook it's when I do a mass update through Ping.fm, other than that I hardly use it.
- Patrick
Where did you get the dead bluebird icon? I love it.
- shelisrael1
I think this is a definite competitor for the Fail Whale!
- Justin Davey
Are they both routed through the same Bay Area server network? Just askin'. Maybe there's a rapid growth of Twitter-to-FB feeds that's screwing up everything? I also like the dead bluebird & upside down FB graphics!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I had much trouble w/ FB this morning as well. It got better after the rain stopped. A day w/o SM is a day without sunshine.
- shelisrael1
AP reports that a pro-Abkhazia activist blogger, who uses the account name "Cyxymu," (the name of a town in the Republic of Georgia) is related to the attacks on SNS. Whether the pro-side (Georgia) or con-side (Russia) coordinated the attacks is unknown. "There's very little way of distinguishing which side was taking this action, because either side could hypothetically benefit from...
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- Mitchell Tsai
lots Blogger as well and Livejournal. It was a concentrated attack.
- Rob Cairns
Mitchell - wow, thank you for the awesome insights into the DDoS attack story. I truly appreciate the info and citations you kindly provided here. Good stuff, as always!!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Cathryn - I flipped the facebook logo upside down - glad you like it!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
seems like whatever Google did mitigated the attack on their end, it'd be interesting to see what data google could provide to twitter and facebook on how to protect from ddos attacks in the future
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
Mike - agreed!! Google's insights would be really important for future hardening of systems to defend DDoS attacks
- Susan Beebe
Fri 8/7 UPDATE: @Twitter: "Due to defense measures some Twitter clients are unable to communicate with our API, and many users are unable to tweet via SMS."
- Susan Beebe
Fri 8/7 UPDATE: Twitter STATUS Blog: "Restoring API and SMS [12:42pm EST] Due to defensive measures we’ve taken against the ongoing denial-of-service attack, some Twitter clients are unable to communicate with our API, and many users are unable to tweet via SMS. We are working as quickly as possible to restore our full service. "
- Susan Beebe
Why do you use Facebook ? I mean it's a site for < 17 years old
- Thierry Lhôte
Facebook is unusable? That's what I'm reading here. Well, please explain how 300 million use it then. Including my wife, my son, me, and ALL of Maryam's elementary school friends from Iran.
I think some of the stuff I'm reading about Facebook is laughable. Really? I went over and used it tonight and the news feed is very similar to FriendFeed. The technology from here will fit right in.
- Robert Scoble
Actually, Robert's right. FriendFeed's basically a superior version of the Facebook news feed.
- Dennis Jernberg
I wish Friend Feed was keyboard navigatable though. Google Reader and GMail have spoiled me; making me think that web apps can be usable as well. I don't like using the mouse so much.
- Travis B. Hartwell
It's gotten a bit easier since they started copying Twitter/Friendfeed...but its the third-party silly stuff that puts me off. Serious stuff was always better here in Friendfeed.
- George Hall (Australia)
George: I ignore all that stuff, it never bothered me.
- Robert Scoble
When do do we get hear what the plan actually is? I have used the FF app in facebook from time to time. But the problem is facebook is clunky due to it's massive membership so I tend click back to here. Is FB really going to get faster? It be smart to have both running in tandem methinks no?
- BairdWilliamson
Facebook is like the social housing estate next door. There are some decent people living there, and there are some pockets of nobs who will steal the hubcaps off your car and throw them through your windows while trying to sell some dodgy dvd's on the street corners.
- Gilbert Harding
Almost everyone I know IRL uses Facebook, but increasingly grudgingly.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I know millions of people who use four remote controls to watch TV.
- Luca Sofri
It is not usable in the way that friendfeed is (I know there are problems)
- Paul Kinlan
I'll go with the train. If the train heads to Facebook I suppose thats where I need to go as well :) I'm absolute certain that FF staff will have a great impact on the user experience of FB. Trying to be positive I also think it's a great thing that FB still strive to evolve.
- Patrik Arwengrim
Facebook is ugly, looks like a corporate site and very slow and clunky, like a busy factory with adds at every corner
- Thierry Lhôte
Baird: software takes months. Paul is right. But Paul, you can just ignore a lot of the complexity there.
- Robert Scoble
hhahaha, sth. like that i thought this second too, Luca :)
- Ronald
Facebook is unusable to do the things that FriendFeed can do
- Anthony Feint
lol, the #1 excuse I hear for people migrating from FriendFeed to Facebook is the annoying applications on the home feed. You can edit those out of your view you know. Same for people you don't want to converse with (privacy settings).
- Hugh Isaacs II
@Robert - I find Facebook extremely useful... for playing Mafia and FarmTown style games. Engagement is just difficult there. I'm not sure if it's the UI, the crowd I have there, or what, but I just don't get into a comfortable conversational groove there on FB the way I do on Twitter or here.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
in fact, the four founders of Friendfeed recieved a trader bonus, for doing real-time search on Facebook, not changing Facebook to become Friendfeed
- Thierry Lhôte
Robert - you're confusing number of users with ease of use. Millions of people of all ages used to be happy with their cellphones, but it wasn't until the iPhone came along that those people saw how usable a phone *could* be.
- Andrew Terry
robert: I think it is hard to ignore the complexity, it took me ages to upload a phote once (or even find where to do it)
- Paul Kinlan
robert: and there is no discovery... I love ff for its friend of a friend features and best of the day.... oh and my discussions.
- Paul Kinlan
I think someone hit the nail on the head. The one thing really missing from the Facebook experience is the sort of engagement we have here at Friendfeed.
- George Hall (Australia)
robert: no sharing content is what im talking about. I actually don't personally know the people I follow on FriendFeed. many are influencers like yourself. This is where I get my news. On Facebook you have Friends not Followers
- Anthony Feint
anyway, the key way to tell something is not friendly to someone, it is listening to that someone. That someone says it's not. You can't go and tell him he's wrong in what he doesn't like.
- Luca Sofri
Anthony: that's changing and quickly. My Facebook looks exactly like FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you using FF and Twitter and not FB then? Besides, they totally hid the applications so anything not out of the box is hard to get to. Advanced functionalities are hard to get to. It's the only site I can think of that I had to use the Help section to find stuff...
- Eran Kampf
from iPhone
also I do believe the UI on Facebook is terrible. It took me 5 attempts to try and create a page on Facebook and I still have to do a search for it when I want to view it
- Anthony Feint
Robert, its all the poking and quizzes and other jejune stuff on Facebook
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Of course Facebook is usable. The point is what do you want to use it for. It was the one place where I could have family and close friends in a CLOSED network. I don't want the world and his missus to see my birthday party - sorry. Friendfeed is a completely different thing. Use it as a lifestream - have all sorts of friends/ acquiaintances/ whatever on there. They are not one and the same and I don't see how they can be.
- sofiagk
@Aaman, block the quizzes from your home feed.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Aaman: I've been on Facebook for a long time and I just ignore that stuff. No harm to me.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook is cluttered. It's not a platform for sharing information and discussion. They're intended for two entirely separate purposes. That being said, I definitely am looking forward to what the FriendFeed team can do with Facebook. If real-time search is where they stop, it'll be hell.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
On Facebook you choose your friends, just like here. Some differences, plus over there you have to decide whether you're going to be public or private up front.
- Robert Scoble
So why you were then one of the sincerest ambassadors for FF and NOT FB? But taste changes...
- Ronald
@Hugh what I was implying was that FF is open participation, so I am talking to you, I might not be following you but I am still talking to you; FB is open to 300 million users most of which I couldn't stop talking to me even if I wanted. Usage wise (from my perception) FB is closed to your personal groups, FF is discovery, the twain shall never mesh
- Paul Kinlan
Robert Scoble was more interesting when he actually had a defensible opinion, rather than just went along with whatever the industry seemed to be doing and worked to egg people on. We remember those times, don't we?
- Andy Bakun
I always laugh at people saying "what's the problem? Just do this, and it is ok". But the reason we use computers and software is we don't want to do this. We want to have things exactly the way we need them, not the way we need them if we just do this and this.
- Luca Sofri
Facebook is not designed to be a public tool - think back to its roots. It's more of a private thing. If I am forced to use it like Friendfeed then I am deleting at least 80% of my info
- sofiagk
@Paul, I think that's going to change with the FriendFeed acquisition. Facebook's aiming more for the public stuff instead of only focusing on close relationships now.
- Hugh Isaacs II
cool, I used the word twain (evern if it is wrong)
- Paul Kinlan
@sofiagk, Everything on Facebook is choice, I doubt they'll force you to be public, it'll probably be very tightly controlled.
- Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh, I would love FB to change to be more like FF but I can't see it happening, I would love to get to see the real-time search (someone said they just released it).
- Paul Kinlan
sofiagk: I completely agree - Facebook was built for closed and private networks. Which is the complete opposite of FF. I don't want to setup complex privacy settings becasue I don't want my family to be inundated with php and coding articles.
- Anthony Feint
FB's great strength was for the private stuff. If I'm forced to choose between public and private, I'm going to stay private, because that's where my IRL friends are. Sorry, FFers.
- James Myatt
@Paul, I don't think Facebook plans to continue as just a closed network anymore, I think their goal is to cover all types of social interactions on the web so it's very likely they'll have FriendFeed like features.
- Hugh Isaacs II
We use each tool to our own purposes but that doesn't mean that each tool is not better suited to a type of use.
- sofiagk
@sofiagk, What's to say Facebook can't act as two tools instead of one?
- Hugh Isaacs II
@hugh, the had better change their API to support that type activity then.
- Paul Kinlan
Hugh, I'm sure it can, but it's going to be really awkward. Like using a Swiss army knife to put shelves together and then skin a rabbit.
- James Myatt
@Hugh Isaacs II well if they are planning to open up then half of the apps are more or less redundant I would guess. You spend all of your time becoming something and then strip down to become something else? What's the point? I'm sorry I just don't understand what is the point with competing with twitter. Facebook vs Twitter is just a silly question, how would you compare them? Using some ff feature to make the stream on facebook better - sure I get that.
- sofiagk
I think Facebook really need to sketch out what they're going to do with Friendfeed, and that might help people adapt to the idea better. At the moment, too much speculation and people really have no idea what to expect of this.
- George Hall (Australia)
I've never beeon a big user of FF. I still don't quite get it. I use FB to keep in touch with people I know. As far as I can see FF is more for discovering stuff and discussing it with people I don't. Or have I missed the point?
- Marc A. Price
@sofiagk, When you look at what Facebooks done so far, it seems like they just want all of the internets social interactions in one place. I mean it does sound silly but sticking to one thing is what killed off Friendster, Classmates, MySpace and so on.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Marc, I think that is exactly the point
- James Myatt
Being on FF is like publishing only things you want. With advanced privacy settings, you can just filter what to share on FB. BUT (a big but) I don't trust Facebook and I've seen it enabling stuff like alerts and configuration settings just because they had some error in their system. I don't share my private life on FF but I share family pictures, my personal details like my cell phone because I only allow people I know personally on FB.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
My biggest problems with using Facebook like Friendfeed are lack of friend-of-friend content (if someone else likes / comments on something, I don't get that in my feed), barriers to engagement (subscribing to someone you don't really "know" on FF is fine; sending a friend request to someone you don't really "know" on FB is not cool), and the fact that stuff falls down the feed too quickly because likes / comments don't bump it to the top again.
- Tristan Seligmann
@hugh, they haven't changed their api at all, the status stream is a bit of a joke.
- Paul Kinlan
@Hugh Isaacs II if they want to get all of social interaction in one place they have grossly misunderstood the nature of social interaction generally. People do not have ONE identity which they use to interact with EVERYONE. Rather we have MULTIPLE. I don't talk to my boss the same way as I talk to my friend. That's why I need multiple tools. So if there is only one on offer I will not use it.
- sofiagk
@sofiagk, that's what the privacy settings are for. In real life you don't take on multiple personas (well at least I don't think you do) so why do it on the internet? And in real life certain conversations are private, kept from others. You shouldn't require separate identities for that.
- Hugh Isaacs II
And you can't expect them to know the perfect network for human interaction. The fact that they're trying gives me confidence though. It's like Googles goal to store all of the worlds information in one place, it won't happen but it definitely made some great products.
- Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II do you really trust facebook with the complicated settings and permissions and groups. I don't. I will agree with what @Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu said above. I get what you are saying about trying. But at the end of the day Google has multiple product offerings. Facebook doesn't (for now).
- sofiagk
Hugh, you do need separate places for that so that there's no risk of being overheard accidentally.
- James Myatt
@sofiagk, I don't honestly. I'm defending them based off of idealism not favoritism. And yea, handling all of that stuff will probably end up in a million mistakes but it's a product, that happens. Also what's to say Facebook can't have multiple products? (That could be apart of this whole FriendFeed thing)
- Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II well - let's see what's gonna happen. Btw thanks for the lively chat a blog post is being drafted in my head as I type :-)
- sofiagk
I think it makes more sense to have multiple "spaces" (work / private / whatever) in the same tool than arbitrarily dividing those up across multiple tools.
- Tristan Seligmann
For example, most people would probably not create a Yahoo email account for emailing some people, and a GMail account for emailing others; they would just create two GMail accounts.
- Tristan Seligmann
@Tristan, It's funny alot of people on FriendFeed are talking about migrating to Google Wave because of the whole Facebook thing, and in reality that's what Wave is going to do.
- Hugh Isaacs II
All of the big companies whether open or not are aiming at owning your internet identity, they don't want separate identities because it doesn't define everything correctly. That's why Google has their profiles feature, why so many companies support OpenID, etc... It may not be something you're used to but over time it will just be one account per person, based on how social networking evolves.
- Hugh Isaacs II
I bet even FriendFeed had that idea (Hint: Google, Facebook and Twitter log in feature).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Carefully observe how someone communicates on phone call versus a face-to-face conversation. It's different—for one thing speaking in a louder volume on the phone. The medium influences the communication itself (but don't get me started on McLuhan ;) So multiple tools can help achieve a certain dynamic that would not have happened just by using another feature inside a single service/construct. That's certainly been my experience on FriendFeed.
- Micah
@Micah, Wouldn't Facebook count as multiple tools in itself. You can have a toolbox, that doesn't mean all of it's contents equal one tool.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Well, I guess this is more of a Swiss Army knife, but the analogy still applies.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Hugh, typically, the same culture/available resources produce stuff under a certain paradigm.
- Micah
@Micah, I doubt they'd just stuff all of your social interactions under one blanket.
- Hugh Isaacs II
They've already separated all of my friends by relation.
- Hugh Isaacs II
I mean, look at FriendFeed, I used the Facebook Connect feature to log in, but I don't interact on here as I would with my friends
- Hugh Isaacs II
Facebook is just really cluttered, and it's UI looses focus on so many fronts. Take the start page - i've missed events, birthdays and other stuff because its burried with a million things on one page. But that's where the people are. I
- Shawn Roos
Or you are SO wrong here. People pretend they are using it - then their wife asks - btw, honey, how did you create that fan page about me? And he says - WTF? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov
Apostol, lol :) The idea is that usability could have been much-much better! Right now it's a total mess and there is a lot of room for improvement. Yes, people use it everyday, but do they use all of it?
- Sasha Kovaliov
@Sasha, do you use all of FriendFeed? (Example: Last.Fm, Brightkite, desktop notifications, google talk integration, etc...)
- Hugh Isaacs II
Then why use people not using all of Facebook as an argument?
- Hugh Isaacs II
from iPod
FB is not unusable, but it is bloated. Tough to set things up the way that I want. Too many new toys/apps popping up almost in every second. I'm tired of hiding this, hiding that from the feeds
- ilterocktive
It's still pretty simple and pleasant to use provided you don't install any applications IMO :P.
- James Stephenson
James: what about not being able to stop some favorite friends from installing any applications? :)
- ilterocktive
ilter: Ummm ... I guess you could start selecting your friends based on their Facebook Applications :P? That would be a sad, sad day...
- James Stephenson
Maybe we need a seperate facebook application. Wait... are there ANY facebook desktop applications? AIR-free preferred (for now) :)
- ilterocktive
Hat tip to this discussion and to @Hugh Isaacs II - I explain my point on facents and identities better here http://www.digital-era.org/renditi... (I know this is a shameless plug - Robert fee free to delete, I just thought it is relevant)
- sofiagk
@sofiagk, I read your blog post and understand your argument but the same rule still stands. You only have one body. As with the friend list feature on Facebook you have social barriers that keep some people away from what others may see. I know it sounds foolish to push all of your social interactions under one service, but if that service can recreate the same personas you use in real life, the only argument against it would be ease of use, comfort and bugs.
- Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II with you all the way if we can find some way to meaningfuly separate functions and feeds - to actually control what info we send to whom.
- sofiagk
@sofiagk, that's what I've been getting at this whole time. I mean I know Facebook in it's current state doesn't do a great job of controlling who sees what, but I'm sure they've been working on that. The FriendFeed acquisition is probably to cater to that.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Facebook has lots of usability issue. For example, they hid all the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar making them less accessible. It took me a while to find that my events are now there... If you want to do anything a bit more advanced than the basic functions then you'll probably lost without their help site (took me a while to figure out how to set permissions to different groups... ). Facebook should be way easier to use...
- Eran Kampf
@Eran, Windows does the same thing. Hides all of the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar. ^_^
- Hugh Isaacs II
If its so good and usable... why do you use FriendFeed\Twitter?
- Eran Kampf
@Eran, Facebook doesn't let me hold public conversations like the one we're currently having (which I think is bound to change).
- Hugh Isaacs II
It's not unusable... it's TOO usable. Too easily gamed by spam apps, too visible to employers who want to block it, too easy for advertisers to target your feed and use your stuff. And way, way too cluttered. It's like the boardwalk in Atlantic City... I avoid it if I can but every so often I make the mistake of going and find that it hasn't changed. Friendfeed on the other hand has none of the crap, while it does have a boatload of interesting, engaged people.
- Vicarbott
@Jim, you know you can actually filter out the applications from your view, even keep them from posting on your wall.
- Hugh Isaacs II
You are spot on, Robert. The proof is in the pudding.
- thinkQuick
Hugh... yes, I know. But while facebook is very easy to begin using it requires a fair amount of effort to set up all that stuff and get the look/feel you want. For all the talk I've heard about how Friendfeed is difficult to figure out, I've never had that problem here.
- Vicarbott
@Jim, yea but FriendFeed is a very young website. I'm not content just knowing that I can't filter out which of my friends can see what. If FriendFeed lasted longer it would've probably gotten more complex and you would've lost interest, or it would've stayed the same and you would've lost interest. Either way judging from your comment I think you would've moved on to something new at some point (this is Facebooks attempt at being relevant to you).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Hugh... I guess you missed the part of my comment that spoke about interesting, engaged people. I will not be losing interest in them anytime soon. In fact, I've been (and still am) on facebook longer than I've been here. I've never been that interested in facebook and still am not. It was just the opposite on FF. I was skeptical and used it very little at first but as the service (for...
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- Vicarbott
Slow... Bogged down with apps... And who wants to refresh a page or discussion manually? Although it does allow me to stay connected with people I would have otherwise lost touch with.
- JR
from iPhone
@Walt, Facebook + Realtime experts = Facebook in Realtime. It's an assumption but not one without merit.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Good to connect with friends of friends but do not like the stupid apps
- Randy Allen Bishop
people who barely know the net are ALL on facebook. you know what i would like? friend group settings. think about it. post photos to your personal group, your online friends or something else entirely. and WHO KNOWS - with the smart people working for the boogie men, it might happen too!
- Terry O'Fee
@Hugh yes I know it is coming... Just wanted to share my top three issues with #facebook and why I use it to help this wonderful R&D discussion... :)
- JR
from iPhone
I think Facebook is perfectly usable. I just can't use it for the same sort of things. Honestly, most people think Facebook is unusable because of all the applications that their friends use, and which those people are too lazy to block. There are some legit problems though, like the quiz applications which, literally, make new applications, so that they show up and you have to block...
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- Otto
Logging into Facebook means a 10-12 minute commitment just to catch up on a half-day's worth of communication. By contrast, I can get in and out of Twitter or Friendfeed in a minute or two if that's all I have. Facebook is just...heavy.
- Ed Moltzen
I know people that work at Facebook. They're good people. But I have serious doubts about their abilities to make an interface that doesn't totally suck. Face facts, Facebook's interface absolutely blows. It is very difficult to do anything that you actually need to do. A good friend of mine is a teacher, and she stopped using Facebook because she didn't want to reject her students on...
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- Otto
I think FB is/has reached a level of importance as SOFTWARE that there needs to be detailed guides/documentation/tutorials. Think about it, most of FB's functionality is simply put out there for people to discover. When you sign up you aren't introduced to a 1/4 of what is available or provided any kind of best practices guidance. Software we buy for our systems generally comes with some type of manual or instruction. Most webapps like FB do not, you have to go to the community or hunt through the interface
- Martin Johnson
It might come as a shock to the designers out there but usability is not the most important aspect of an application. Facebook's success in the face of its sucky usability proves that. People are on facebook, and other on-line social networks, because they want to interact with the other members, not because of usability.
- sjjh
Unnecessary to chew gum. But it's called billion dolar industry.
- Burçak Çubukçu
there are more stranger things that people do, not everything could be explained, asked a wrong question. like say if there aren't any ghosts why more than half the world believe, if there is any god or isn't why are people theist/atheist. why men cut their hair both head/facial when they are there for sexual and heat exchange purposes at first places, you asked it out of your sentiment for facebook and i wrote it because i don't like facebook ;)
- testbeta
Does that mean you got a little sleep?
- Anne Bouey
Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason.
- Louis Gray
Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee!
- travispuk
O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes)
- Martha
10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :)
- Joe Beda
This emoticon makes a little more sense now...
- Stephen Foskett
Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement?
- Ben Hedrington
Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users.
- tollie williams
@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks.
- Ken Kennedy
Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :)
- Susan Beebe
I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
If Friendfeed's a "sharing service", how about sharing thoughts about its future with its users? ;)
- Jack&Cleo
Paul we are really glad that you are making money with your fantastic product. Congratulations. We are just a bit concerned that Facebook will integrate more feeds and real time search and leave the community in the dust.
- Keith - @tsudo
Seriously... share some info that this community can value. We know you guys are diggin' all this, but, as far we can tell, we're all about to be divorced from each other. We need details, TODAY!
- Brad Williamson
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
They will all sit in their chair and stare at their monitor!
- Gabe Diaz
@Dani, who knows... the might merge or something... explain the strange twitter is pulling fb down 2..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Did Scoble bring Twitter and FB down as he unfollowed everyone ? winks -)
- Del_
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- travispuk
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- travispuk
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive®, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Maybe Ev's interview on the BBC last night didn't go down well with the Iranians!
- Andrew
from iPod
Ev coming onto the BBC last night and saying that they were asked by the US Goverment to keep Twitter up and running during the Iranian protests cannot have gone down well in Tehran!
- Andrew
from iPod
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
Read post on 100k unfollow - I love how people are commenting and blaming Twitter being down on that! lol
- Helene
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Boyd
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
You must be dying of laughter now Robert!
- Arleen Boyd
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- momonalona
I see no reason to use a stand alone RSS app when I can use Google Reader from any computer anywhere without having to install any software.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I still think Google Reader could have even greater adoption if they integrated the interface into Gmail. I am hoping someone on the Reader team is working on a lab product.
- Kevin Mohr
Google Reader will win when they add item recommendations based on likes.
- Charbax
GReader rules! I'm waiting for two improvements: 1. Integration with Gmail (I hate to keep 2 tabs open, and don't want to use a custom script). 2. The Top Recommendations (http://www.google.com/support...) considers your subscriptions, your web history, and your location. I would rather it consider who I'm following.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)