I used Personal Brain in earlier versions, until my old PC crashed and when I restored it I could no longer get the upgrades to load. Maybe it's time to try it again, even though it means paying for a new license. It really is an excellent app, once you get the hang of it, and I've missed it.
- Bill Brandon
On the other hand, if Twitter keeps having these outages, the mass porno followers won't matter any more. Much as I love Twitter, I'm really thinking it might be time to just go to FriendFeed or Identica full time.
- Bill Brandon
5 different versions of the Linux OS that will run in the cloud. Or 4 versions and Google Chrome (not sure that one's really the same as the others, but who knows, since nobody has seen it yet)
- Bill Brandon
The majority of those types of celebrities though just want to say something themselves. They are not interested in listening to anyone saying anything back. Sadly, for the good few we inherited once Demi had said Hi :)
- 1x29
Scoble will quit tweeting about it.
- Photar
from iPhone
What a concept! I'd like to send you a list of things to declare dead ...
- Bill Brandon
from Nambu
Meryn: I had 46,000 followers here before I declared it dead. How many does a service require to be "born?"
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I guess you really don't like that Facebook bought the company.
- jef
By using FF, is Robert Scoble actually declaring it undead? Does that make it a zombie service? FF of the Living Dead...
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
jef: Facebook is a great company but if more than 1/10th of the team is actively working on FriendFeed in four weeks I will give $50 to the American Red Cross.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
For those that don't get it, commenting on one thread is like being all together talking and chatting about a set topic/thread [well, it is to me, anyway :)]. Saying you 'don't get it' is like walking into a group of people talking in a cafe (no coffee here though) and asking what on earth is going on. We're just talking :)
- 1x29
Robin: remember what it means when a blogger declares something dead.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
It's....dead? So we're wandering the FF mall looking for brains (and LOLcats)?
- WorldofHiglet
Robert, do you mean 1/10th of the FF team, or 1/10th of the FB team?
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
What if Facebook starts to promote it and it gets millions of users, then what? hmmmmmm
- Stephen Pickering
Steve Gillmor declared Microsoft Office dead and it went onto make billions more dollars.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Heh: the iPhone misspells Gillmor. I fixed the spelling but now I know why everyone adds an "e" onto it.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
making money and being dead are mutually exclusive
- Steve Gillmor
The *idea* of FF is not dead though. The ability to do what we can here is ALWAYS going to be required. The set up here is the closest thing we have on the internet that replicates just talking to a group of your friends. But it affords you the opportunity to get in on conversations globally on whatever interests you.
- 1x29
I believe he Steve also said RSS was dead..He likes to call things dead doesn't he? :)
- Bill Heslin
Well, I think it's dead too. At least, it never became very popular as much as Twitter, did it?
- jef
we can use the health care savings to treat twitter addicts
- Sherry Reynolds
Stephen: The problem I have with FB taking it is all the rubbish you'll no doubt get packaged with it. FF is so clean. No poking. No pointless gifts. No adopt an imaginary something. No signing up for a 3rd party app just to see what someone sent you (even if it was sent without their knowledge :))
- 1x29
Steve, will it be integrated into Facebook, and as Robert said, no one actively working on the stand alone site, or do you think the stand alone site will continue to get better?
- Stephen Pickering
jef: I get more engagement here than on Twitter and I have gotten many times more new followers here this week than on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What the hell is wrong with you Robert? FriendFeed is still ticking away; you have no association with it and therefore no right to voice its status.
- Mitch
Lots of people became aware of it because Facebook bought it
- Stephen Pickering
jef: Twitter already and fundamentally lacks the benefits of FF though. It's might have more *users* but it's pretty much reached it's purpose already.
- 1x29
I should have clearly pointed "RSS". I wasn't referring to FriendFeed.
- jef
Twitter's design almost ensured 40% of tweets would be pointless. FF comments by definition are only as pointless as the conversation itself. It is inevitable that a FF type service will eclipse a twitter type service.
- 1x29
jef: my favorite Tweets come here via RSS. Both are definitely dead!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
He's more like Beelzebub to me in the matter of FriendFeed. I mean "Zuckerberg".
- jef
Mark Zuckerberg = Jesus and/or Beelzebub .....Stephen Pickering & jef.... hahahahaha
- Jeunelle Foster
40.5% of tweets are pointless babble. what is the ratio of comments on this thread?
- Sherry Reynolds
Well, I'm quite a Twitter guy. But, yeah, RSS is definitely dead or dying.
- jef
we are exercising the power of social media, even if it's pointless
- Jeunelle Foster
FriendFeed couldn't get traction. They've married some folks who know how to get traction. And Facebook's married some folks who know how to do real time. Both services will benefit, and so will the "users" or "sharecroppers"
- Stephen Pickering
If RSS weren't dead why would Dave WIner be rebooting it? If Office isn't dead why would MS be moving to the cloud?
- Steve Gillmor
feels like I'm being mocked here, but what the hell? ;)
- jef
Who's doing the mocking? I rebuke them in the name of Jesus
- Jeunelle Foster
not mocking you, follow the thread. Pickering asked whether Office in cloud will be Office, I said not until it has a micromessage reader.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm too drunk for this thread. *forms conga line* <-----srsly on FriendFeed in club at anime convention!!! XD
- CannonGod
from iPhone
The whole "RSS is dead" is a broad sweeping statement positioned to get a rise, and meaningless without context. Why? How? What exactly does that mean "RSS is dead" Its usefulness serves people, then its very much alive.
- Benjamin Taylor
Well, I said "RSS is dead" in a view point of consumer. Do you know anyone what RSS means or does?
- jef
the context defines the meaning. It means that RSS has moved from a disruptive technology to a mature one, and is now being disrupted in turn by micromessaging
- Steve Gillmor
Makes complete sense, in that context. I had a different understanding of the meaning behind that statement.
- Benjamin Taylor
understandable given the noise from those who want to attack the messenger
- Steve Gillmor
The best thing? It's somehow reassuring to see just how passionate the FFish subset of folks is about community.
- Kathy Fitch
yes Kathy, by contrast FF continues to disrupt, and particularly a willing Facebook.
- Steve Gillmor
Just made the original comment because of the "dead" thing in Robert's post and your RSS is dead comment from awhile back was the first thing that came to mind. I'm actually glad I said it now, because I understand your position on that comment much more now Steve. And btw, is there plans for Gillmor Gang to come back, or has it come back already and I just missed it? Thanks
- Bill Heslin
WIll have something to say about that RSN Bill
- Steve Gillmor
Is RSS a zombie now? or is it still too early to tell... by the way, dead = no productivity innovation happening, imho
- Alberto Saavedra
from Nambu
BTW, what kind of understanding did you have on "RSS is dead", Ben? Just out of curiosity.
- jef
Steve: Nothing. I was asking Robert :) Its news to me that he said that. I think this is the early adopter's early adopter's view.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Robert didn't declare FF dead in the title to this post. He's giving a list of implications of it being "declared dead by Scoble." It's a subjunctive use of the phrase - something imagined, a thought experiment.
- Nick in Manila
Ah. Right. I think there is life in the old girl yet....
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
9. You can move back in with your blog. Ya'll can get married and live happily ever after.
- Stephen Pickering
That is good... Robert's back to blogging thing didint last very long....
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
not dead, but honnestly it will make some return to coding and this is good.
- abdellah
So RSS is dead, Twitter is about to be pronounced dead, and Robert Scoble is declaring FriendFeed "dead". What would we have then?
- jef
Blogging. Which, really? Also dead. I think all we have left is wikis, email, and cocktail napkins.
- Sean Gallagher
Honestly. Declaring something "dead" because it doesn't have that new-car-smell anymore, and somebody's trying to, heaven forbid, *commercialize it* is just a sign of tech-ADD. CORBA was supposed to be dead, but it's still alive. COBOL was supposed to be dead, but MicroFocus is still making money. Hell, even DOS isn't dead, or filesharing, or the music industry, or old media. They just don't have that magical infinite potential of the blank piece of paper anymore.
- Sean Gallagher
Punch cards are a valid storage format. I bet I could do RSS on punchcards.
- Sean Gallagher
Sean: Rss benefited at the beginning of this cycle, and it made a huge difference. This is happening now with realtime. Your last sentence would only be improved by removing the word "just." Don't know what the "commercialized" reference means, nothing wrong with any of this making money. Oh and the music industry -- that's just plain dead.
- Steve Gillmor
:-))First time that I can enjoy the dead ,Today I checked the new tools of Google reader and they are doing well ,,, Wave is coming and we can all feel it
- Johni Fisher
"the last time the music industry died, the Beatles showed up - Steve Gillmor " I'm ready for the Beatles!! Bring 'em on!
- Amy Flynn
wondering when gwave is going to be dead
- Jim Posner
Ashton, Oprah and Ellen will finally sign up.
- Erik Boles
Ellen would be cool...keep the other two....lol
- Bill Heslin
Jim, it needs to be alive first :-) so, anytime after October or whenever KISS apps arrive to Wave platform
- Alberto Saavedra
Zombies, says @RobinDotNet? We have ways of dealing with zombies, both on a computer system and in real life. (wonder if the new Tron remake will have zombie processes...)
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
Declaring it dead means we all feel sorry for it, and use it all the more! (resurrection syndrome)
- Sandra Large
10: Scoble no longer has to pretend that his "followers" are "friends". Facebook will make it so.
- Phil Calvin
It is far from dead. But we will not get all the Bots and the security issues that Twitter has
- Rob Cairns
Hey I wanna Sue FacePOOP fer Giving me da Boot! Can U recommend a Razor Sharp Lawyer!!
- Billy Warhol
i stopped recommending friendfeed. This place is just way too cool to share it with others ;)
- Sascha Pallenberg
a collapse into FB by FF beyond feature cherry picking would seem rather myopic... think FB Labs to foil Google Labs and push leading edge adoption that is a safe distance from the close fisted FB silo -- sizzle and promise at a controlled feature grafting rate
- Jay Cuthrell
from BuddyFeed
Good basic definitions. Need to add these to our Author Guidelines, since so many don't have a clue about what I need to see in their articles -- especially ledes and nut grafs.
- Bill Brandon
The question is whether FB will just incorporate FF or allow it to exist as an independent entity. Glad that, unlike the folks at Pownce, FF will make some money out of this deal.
- Liz