Bindu Reddy

Not sure, but I could speculate. Some of the clients can sell ads. Some of them can be sold as services. Some of them are created just because creative people wonder if they can and then they do... The really great ones I guess end up getting funded from somewhere.... kind of like Twitter itself, maybe? - Holly Rae, FFer

You could also charge for premium versions or the iPhone version. Tweetie is $2.99 on the iPhone and well worth it. - Louis Gray

Chris looking for free beer and chips. - Rodfather

No, margaritas and ceviche. :) - Cristo

So where's this party at? - Rodfather

In San francisco at this club called Bimbos... - Bindu Reddy

Bimbo's 365 in North Beach. Tainted Love plays there I think. [Oh, actually I was thinking of the Red Devil Lounge, although I have been to 80s night at Bimbo's before] - Cristo

Yes that is the one... - Bindu Reddy

Cool have fun if you go :) - Rodfather

You need to than unfollow those users...:)) Twitter is a lot more about broadcasting and getting followers is like a drug.. the more you broadcast the more followers you get :) - Bindu Reddy

Are you getting high right now? :) - Cristo

Getting followers doesn't really mean anything: 390 of the 400 followers I have on Twitter never act or do anything with what I say on it. Getting them to convert is the meaningful part of the marketing proposition, and conversations, I've found, are far more effective at that. - Mark Trapp

Mark is right. - Robert Scoble

So, what's the FAQ for interaction on Twitter? I had a post that got 100+ comments the other day here on Friendfeed but no response on Twitter. I must be doing something wrong over there. - Eric @ CS Techcast

twitter seems to be great for people who are lazy and not really savvy about marketing. it's sort of like shouting into the void, and you might get a few people to respond, but do you really get people to act? - Bren, Photophobe

@Mark, I agree with you.. However to a lot of people having a follower number like 10K/20K, which seems like a relatively easily thing to do on Twitter, is not only just a high but it is also a good way to keep in touch with your audience without spending too much time... Here keeping in touch with your audience is way more time consuming - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, but keeping in touch doesn't mean anything if they're not listening. You can have a million followers, but if you're not getting any of them to act on what you're saying, it doesn't mean much. Getting conversations going with people, who may or may not be followers, which Twitter is pretty bad at, are more effective at getting people to convert. I just had a relatively popular... more... - Mark Trapp

Bindu, I'm following you (FF) and I just commented too :) - Micah Wittman

@Mark, Curious how did you get them to go to your website? - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, if I knew that I'd have it made. Near as I can tell, people were doing Twitter and Google searches for "twitter list," and then started retweeting it and sharing it from there. - Mark Trapp

Following is such a low-risk endeavor that people don't put thought into it: they'll follow anyone and everyone. You even have people thinking it's common decency to automatically follow people if they follow you without even thinking about if their content is interesting. Following is the 21st century equivalent of receiving a phone book or the yellow pages: you do it just in case you need to contact or get ahold of someone in the future, but nobody ever realistically does. - Mark Trapp

Yep, it's like collecting business cards that get neatly filed into a big binder. It's about the self-satisfaction of the collection - you feel more connected / networked / important and avoid doing the hard work of cold calling or meeting with people and building something or whatever. - Micah Wittman

I agree with following being a low-risk effort... However I have also heard of ppl gaining value from Twitter without much effort. Take for example this coffeshop I am a big fan of - sightglass coffee. They get a lot of customers from Twitter. It takes them relatively little time to tweet and they get customers. It would be very hard to achieve the same on FF. - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, I get lots of conversation on Twitter, too. One of the reasons I am there more than here is because people with common interest in my political obsessions are there, but not here. - Karoli

Karoli - Yes, the Twitterverse is way more diverse than the FFverse. Curious do you get more comments/conversations per post on Twitter as compared to FF or is it that you you post more stuff because time spent per post is lower on Twitter - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, I get very little response to political conversations/comments on FF - a couple of folks follow here but a very small percentage compared to twitter. I tried to pull people over here, but they didn't understand why they should leave tweetdeck and their twitter setup for new territory. - Karoli

Geeks (+ early adopters, influential folks, the elite ...) are on FriendFeed and the proletariat on Twitter? Long live the dictatorship of the proletariat? Calls for action work best when the audience actually cares, so prolly that's all about choosing the right medium for the targeted punters? - Sebastian

Sebastian... yes agree the geeks and tech bloggers are on FF... However if you are marketing say a fashion or beauty blog. You won't get much interest here. twitter is the place for you :) - Bindu Reddy

I disagree with that statement, Bindu. There's a LOT of non-tech getting traction on FriendFeed. So much so that it's the number one reason Scoble no longer enjoys being here: he says he doesn't see enough tech for his liking. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Just butting in here to mention that there are tons of uses for both twitter and friendfeed that have nothing whatsoever to do with marketing. In fact, once could make the argument that social networks such as these were designed to get away from marketing. Unlike radio, TV, or even a web search, you choose who you'll be receiving information from. If you're looking to exchange... more... - Mr. Gunn

Marketing, schmarketing. - Christopher A Carr

Bindu, what I'm sick of is marketers broadcasting their sales pitches to all social media outlets out there, regardless whether the audience might fit or not. Anyways, i'ts possible to attract a few somewhat intelligent responses to geeky topics at Twitter, at least when xmas and independence day share the same date. Most probably I wouldn't try to sell wonder bras at FF, though. - Sebastian

@Tina ... umm I have not been an avid user of FF lately so maybe it has become pretty diverse. Are you saying there are a lot of people on here with specific interests such as politics, beauty etc? - Bindu Reddy

Sebastian - LOL.. agree :) - Bindu Reddy

Bindu: Ning is a better place to go if you have very specific topics you want to talk about. They are growing a FriendFeed every 12 days (they are getting a million new users that often and have just passed 38 million registered). FriendFeed is fun if you aren't sure what you want to chat about and you're cool with seeing lots of family pictures and goofy stuff. Tina is right that the hard-core geeks are mostly on Twitter or Facebook now, I keep watching here, though. - Robert Scoble

Karoli I get all kinds of action here on political topics. I have more followers on Twitter but rarely get a response there. Here I got 80+ comments yesterday. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

MVB, Karoli is a prolific voice on twitter. Twitter seems quite effective for political advocacy/activism even though longer form convos have to break out somewhere else. Also, just like friendfeed, volume / steady presence can make all the difference. Your tweet count is ~2K; Karoli's over 63K. - Micah Wittman

My presence here is similar to Kaoli's on Twitter, then. So, presence is a mitigating factor. But, Micah, as you so deftly point out, for a long conversation there needs to be a move to another venue. That's where here works better, since it can stay right here. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

We agree, and can agreed at length right here, folks :) - Micah Wittman

So link your twitter to your friendfeed. Get followers and comments. The best of both worlds. - Hareesh Nagarajan

Does it make any difference here whether the original post was to Twitter and reposted here automatically or the original post was directly here? In other words, does the FF community prefer to comment on direct posts rather than Twitter reposts? - Jimmy Walker

Jimmy: it honestly depends on who you interact with on FriendFeed. There are people who get irate about people only posting to Twitter and openly advocate using FriendFeed directly, and yet, there are interesting people who always get a conversation going around their tweets. One thing that sometimes helps is coming back to FriendFeed and elaborating on your tweet, or to do more than... more... - Mark Trapp

Mona, u are back on FF :) IMO, Yes doing something you are passionate about is definitely the most important thing. Yet, I think there are people who are probably not that passionate about anything... it seems they more or less just want to make money. I find it a little hard to believe that Goldman Sachs bankers are doing smthg they are really passionate abt... esp if most of their jobs involves betting so that they can make money - Bindu Reddy

...because most people believe that more money and/or more fame will buy them more control and more freedom. - .LAG liked that

I'm waiting for more people to join in. It's not worth if it's just you and one or two more - Vipul Rawat

Yeah, I'm using it for collaborative strategy docs and architectures. - Daniel Dulitz

One of the students I work with is using it to work on homework with classmates. They are computer science students, but he showed me. I thought it was very cool. I just barely got my team mates there so I intend to use it heavily as a collaborative space. - Holly Rae, FFer

duh ;) - mike "glemak" dunn

alan you are to quick & bindu </kidding> - mike "glemak" dunn

OK now can anyone name names :)) - Bindu Reddy

Probably never. I bet he is the first to try! - Louis Gray

the usual suspects - i like most of them anyway (not rush though - can't stand that charlatan) - mike "glemak" dunn

that depends on the split of people on the internet. Are most of the techies left-wing types? Are most of the internet sites dominated by left-wing folks? If yes, he won't be popular. - Vipul Rawat

Vipul, actually I am not talking about politics... I am just talking about ppl making controversial statements just to get attn :) - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, sorry for being a bit off. I'm not sure about the FF 'cos I'ven't come across a case like that. However, in Rush's case it's a mix of things. He does get attention, but he has to offer value as well to maintain viewership. The same will apply to FF. - Vipul Rawat

I'd say it happens on a daily basis, Bindu. - Soup

Bindu, there's a typo in your post. You misspelled "I'm quite certain that" as "Wondering how". - Bruce Lewis

Haha, happens every new post on almost any big tech blog. And look at last night with FF :) - Holden Page

Bruce LOL :)) - Bindu Reddy

Holden seems like I missed the action last night... can you point me to the relevant post(s)? - Bindu Reddy

N. of the 40th parallel, he makes none AT ALL, that is to say outside of his incendiary statmenents in the US he's non-existent geo-politically - sofarsoShawn

Bindu, you missed it? I thought this is what you were referring to: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Bruce Lewis

that is what I was referring to - Holden Page

Oh yes, I can understand that and I am happy to discount that... - Bindu Reddy

This would hold true for pretty much any mobile phone or laptop, too. Another tip: If you're sitting next to someone on a bus or plane and they start reading a book or magazine, they're also not interested in talking. - Mr. Gunn

Yes you can.. I do have parallels as well but I guess I am regarding that as "too much trouble" right now :) - Bindu Reddy

I have too much trouble, I understand. :) - Holly Rae, FFer

I've only read negative reviews. We should swap! - Soup

ha ha... really? for some reason I keep bumping into Windows 7 likes on LIkaholix which is what made me think that people are raving about it... - Bindu Reddy

7 is what Vista should have been. I guess after Vista anything is better :) - Daryl Hunt on FF

they coulda made the list icon apparent on the feed of users, you see them scoll by, and you could just list them on the spot without have to click through pages, but its a nice feature, i'm not complaining at all, :) - chaz2b

There's first time for everything, eh? ;) - Jemm

Specifically I really like how you can set lists to be public, how you can see which lists you are part off and the way you can follow lists. - Bindu Reddy

Of course we don't need more and we need to strive towards decreasing it... But it is also not the case that - "The world is an extremely dangerous place now" as some reporters/media anchors make it out to be. It was probably way more dangerous 100 - 200 years ago. - Bindu Reddy

Any amount is too much, but you're right that one might expect even more than we have already. - Stephen Mack

violence against even a single person out of 6B+ is still Violence... today people have much easier access to much more info & resources to abuse & manipulate compared to 100-200 years ago. We have grown smarter but more dangerous also. - Roshan Ramachandran

It's a great point to remember Bindu. We have made huge strides in so many areas because humans have consciously chosen to be more humane. It's not all bad. - Todd Hoff

No doubt, Any amount is too much... The flip side is also true that today we get to hear a lot more about any violence that happens anywhere in the world because we are so much more connected. That said I am not advocating we turn a blind eye towards violence but I think it helps to remember that at some point world population was decreasing because ppl were killing each other off! - Bindu Reddy

You are commenting on this from BestBuy?? - Bindu Reddy

If they are going to copy FF, just do it already. I'm finding the Facebook interface really hard to use. There's a lot of micromanagement, of permissions, media types, sharing, friends, the concentration is not on communication and interesting conversation. - Andy Bakun

True they don't really make conversations that easy to have... Also for some reason I get put off by their small font size. - Bindu Reddy

& By gosh by golly the privacy intricacies YIKES ~ you have to see my lists built - sofarsoShawn

Bindu, I was commenting on it from Best Buy. Now I'm home. :) - Cristo

Now that is what I call an addiction :) - Bindu Reddy

LOL. I was checking out the Magic Mouse and new iMacs. I need to use something I know pretty well to test. ;) - Cristo

So did you like the magic mouse? - Bindu Reddy

Happy Diwali, Bindu! - Parth Awasthi

Happy Diwali! - rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu

Thanks... Happy diwali to both of you as well - Bindu Reddy

Quite gracile features. She's cute. - Christopher A Carr

:) - Bindu Reddy

Thanks for that! - Bindu Reddy

also watch the videos. - Jim Hearts FF

me too! lol, feel free to add me jmortonscott - Jason

and here's Kol Tregaskes' amazing wave thread: http://friendfeed.com/google-... - Jim Hearts FF

So for some reason I don't see any results for the query - in:public friendfeed - Bindu Reddy

Don't worry, confusion is cheap and plentiful in Wave. - Cristo

Criso are you on Wave? Anyways I am also finding this whole watching me type extremely creepy at the moment Maybe I am just growing really old :(( - Bindu Reddy

Well, it was on Unix in the 80s, so it shouldn't make you feel old. - Cristo

Do you mean talk on Unix? - Bindu Reddy

Yes, amongst other programs. - Cristo

Wave seems to have a lot of threading that is not that easy to get. However there are people who seem to be doing fine. Maybe it just takes getting used to. - Bindu Reddy

Yeah, I guess I don't view people's ability to work through difficult UIs as an achievement, unless it's something like using vi. - Cristo

I don't think it is... :) - Bindu Reddy

Apparently you can't just type in someone's id, you have to add them to your contact list? - Cristo

I don't know how to delete either, apparently. - Cristo

Yes and I still can't figure out how to see public waves - Bindu Reddy

Yeah, me either: "No results returned for query "in: public" - Cristo

I still have't gotten mine *cries* - Soup

The weird thing about human behavior is how badly u want something until u get it.... - Bindu Reddy

Bindu -- care to share your Google Wave contact name? Mine is rowlikeagirl@googlewave.com. I'm adding contacts now. - rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu

Cool, Bindu, we'll see you on there. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Make sure to not wear pants. - sofarsoShawn

Read this: http://lifehacker.com/5376138... - Adrian

To see public waves it's: "with:public" - Adrian

Also, it's: "with:public friendfeed" - Adrian

bindureddy@googlewave.com - Bindu Reddy

Watch the tutorials. Learn some of the basic Search commands - http://smarterware.org/3536... - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift