love this. I wonder if you could mount a model rocket to that beast and have it fire once in the stratosphere. With the less dense atmosphere, I wonder what kind of altitude you could achieve.
- mikepk
Awesome. And could be the source of so many science exam questions. How long does it take to get to maximum height? How far does it travel laterally? How much does the balloon expand, and why? Given the density of the air, could you hear the balloon pop? :)
- Matthew Todd
Those are good questions, Mat. But somehow my thoughts are dominated by mikepk's proposal to combine with a model rocket :)
- Steve Koch
It is not that the book will replace coding. The book will provide a better framework for learning, on a child's level.
- Iddo Friedberg
you as a teacher, co-learner can probably figure out a better, more adjusted, more custom-tailored framework for your kid than any book can do
- Attila Csordas
Ask for government data to be available in machine-readable formats. More eyes poring over data will catch problems earlier.
- Matt Cutts
Linus Torvalds should be better CTO - he made revolution _without_ budget on hands.
- A.T.
push transparency- from what i understand, entities that recieve stimulus money are being compelled to provide info about how their using those monies using RSS- well, if thats the case, then the federal government should provide a directory of those feeds for independant verification (and mashups and what not).
- Chris Hollander
That's because there are no evil lairs. if I had an evil lair, things would be different.
- tim
and its hard to get sharks with friken laser beams passed health and safety these days, as the are classed as a GMO
- Frank
Frank that's definitely a bio-COSSH issue and not a GMO one under the current UK regulations. Lasers would need a separate assessment and a good interlock system of course, but I assume that could be built into the doors for the internal-lake-in-hollowed-out-volcano system. And people coming to meetings would need to wear laser goggles of course...
- Cameron Neylon
Please let me know if you are aware / could recommend / want to be a mentor of any bio-related project which is/might participate in the Google Summer of Code project. Those links might be useful: http://code.google.com/soc... and http://code.google.com/opensou... Thanks! :-)
I might be submitting our new webapp that we're open-sourcing very soon. It's a database for searching and analyzing protein backbone geometry. Lots of cool graphing and visualization. One project idea is integrating JMol into it so people can visually see the results of a search for particular types of geometry. The site is proteingeometry.sourceforge.net but the code isn't there yet, and I haven't made it very recruiting-friendly yet.
- Donnie Berkholz
Got a sec? If you can read and understand a scientific abstract then we need you to help make the publishing world more science 2.0 friendly. Thirty seconds, five minutes, half an hour - whatever you can spare would be great. - http://blogs.nature.com/wp...
Thank guys! It's a bit of a slog but is really useful info.
- Euan
I did 10 or 12. In some places there are repeated comments.
- Paulo Nuin
Did a couple -- found one where an author had reported on a journal club dissection of her paper. I called it a "comment from author" since that's who submitted it, but it's also a journal club. Any chance we could pick more than one option at a time?
- Bill Hooker
Liked so I will remember to do this when I have a moment
- Shirley Wu
+1 "Any chance we could pick more than one option at a time?" Agreed, Bill.
- Graham Steel
This looks interesting... Will do some more tomorrow when I have some more time.
- Ricardo Vidal
I gave a couple of minutes to it this afternoon. Maybe more tomorrow.
- Jill O'Neill
Going through a couple now. Recognizing some names. Multiple categories would be better, if it's doable within your analysis. Also there might need to be a category for "discussion among commenters".
- Mr. Gunn
bumping this up for visibility - please help Euan out on this.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bookmarked , will have a look during this week.
- Pedro Beltrao
How should we mark comments from authors replying to direct criticism ? are these just comments from authors as well?
- Pedro Beltrao
@Pedro yeah, any type of author response is a comment from author rather than anything else.
- Euan
I would update the app to allow multiple categories - I think on balance it's a better idea - but I'd have to dump all of the work done so far, so it's a no go. :( I'll try and put up better guidance and a 'annotators discuss' box.
- Euan
Incidentally there are now ~ 700 annotations, which is fantastic, thanks everybody! About a third of the way there.
- Euan
@Euan managed to do a few, it was actually quite an interesting exercise seeing what kinds of comments people left, I got strangely hypnotised by it all :)
- Duncan Hull
Great crowdsourcing idea. Some commenters were familiar (Bora Zivkovic, Graham Steel, Björn Brehms).
- Martin Fenner
I submitted this to the science subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r...) and it generated quite some interest and comments there. Two I liked were to submit this as a HIT to Mechanical Turk, and a seperate category for people pointing out typos.
- Jeroen Van Goey
I think I've seen the same comments come up twice. Are you oversampling and taking the consensus ranking?
- Mr. Gunn
I've also seen some cases where the author posted the reviewers anonymous comments as a comment. I think that's a useful practice.
- Mr. Gunn
Good idea - I've done a couple, will do more as time permits. I, too, saw familiar "faces" (I'm looking at you, Deepak!)
- Allyson Lister
I've seen a case where a person seemed to be trying to put a trackback in the comment field (they blogged about the article). Could only put it into "other"...
- Allyson Lister
OK I've pitched in and done a few too :)
- Daniel Swan
Thanks guys! Almost got complete coverage now (waiting for there to be more than one decision on some comments).
- Euan
@ Euan, is it possible for someone to only do abstracts in a particular topic area (e.g. Comp bio)? A colleague is asking. Might not matter at this point since it sounds like you're almost there
- Shirley Wu
@Shirley sadly not as the articles aren't categorized inside PLoS ONE (I don't think).
- Euan
Maybe it would be possible to come up with some silly geeky games for scientists that would help publishers tag abstracts or images. "name that cell type" :). Using the same strategies of Luis von Ahn's games.
- Pedro Beltrao
Google does that sort of labeling game on their images. Not a game per se, but basically tagging images. Crowdsourcing.
- Ricardo Vidal
@Ricardo I think the Google Image labeling was inspired on those crowdsourcing games from Luis von Ahn. The problem with Mechanical Turk is that lack of scientific background of the users. I am not sure that even just this task of sorting comments according to the rules Euan set up would work over there.
- Pedro Beltrao
Say I have a fly mutant with an attention deficit and a hyperactivity phenotype that is successfully treated with ritalin. How would I find out if the human orthologue is associated with ADHD in humans?
After what I have learned, I think I need to qualify my question somewhat. I have a fly mutant in this gene (CG15720): http://flybase.org/reports... It interacts with Rac1 (http://www.pnas.org/content...). It apparently has very low homology with anything in the human genome, but I'm not sure. This kind of stuff is way out of my specialty. Can I search for the pathway or genes with similar function based on common domains or something like that?
- Björn Brembs
Have you blasted the gene or the resulting protein to see what else is similar to this gene? After that I would try checking for genes with similar functions and then a pathway analysis, as you mentioned.
- Paulo Nuin
I have indeed blasted (for the first time ever). Regular blast gives nothing, looking further gives a whole bunch of short alignments which don't really tell me anything. Looks to me like I need someone who has done this kind of analysis before...
- Björn Brembs
I got the CDS from the link you posted and blasted against the nr database. I'm still getting the results but so far only on other Droshopila species.
- Paulo Nuin
I could not confirm any potential hits in human (Tara looks promising initially) with reciprocal hits or domains. There is probably no ortholog in human.
- Roland Krause
Blasting the resulting protein gives hits on some mosquitoes and bee.
- Paulo Nuin
Hyperactivity in Droso, OK. But what is the assay for attention deficit in Drosophila? Just curious...
- Thomas Lemberger
Another possibility would be to define the functional network around that gene and look for homologous clusters in human using something like pathblast or graemlin. That could at least point to the homologous pathway in human.
- Pedro Beltrao
@Paulo: that's what I was thinking. AFAIK, only the Rac1 interaction is known.
- Björn Brembs
@Thomas: Give one stimulus the fly usually attends then another the wildtype fly usually ignores - mutants don't ignore but become distracted. In addition, brain recordings: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi...
- Björn Brembs
... I also cannot find more interactions for that protein. I don't think it would be enough to use those graph alignment programs.
- Pedro Beltrao
Thanks for all your help, guys. Looks like I'm stuck...
- Björn Brembs
I now have an alternative plan: try to map domains onto the protein sequence and then see if there are genes in human databases that have a similar set of domains, but which would not show up in a raw similarity search. Here's some info on the protein: http://www.predictprotein.org/get_res... Is there a protein specialist in this room who knows what to do with such results?
- Björn Brembs
could you not look downstream and see if the fly Rac1 is affected or whatever cytoplasmic target it has in its little brain? and work from there? maybe in humans there is a different gene feeding into Rac1 and affecting neuronal function? what does Rac1 do in neurons, anyhow?
- Heather
Sorry I'm late to the party. Bjorn, there are no domains in this protein - this is serine/arginine/proline rich protein. When you switch compositional correction off on NCBI's BLAST you'll hit "serine/arginine repetitive matrix 2 protein" from human, although it's hard to assess functional similarity from such analogy. Nevertheless, given similar sequence features, I'd assume SRRM2 is a valid hit and move further from that, as you have no other options.
- Pawel Szczesny
Additionally, it has predicted nuclear export signal, which somehow supports SRRM2 hypothesis (although don't believe me, I'm not an expert on eukaryotic proteins). There are also peculiar cysteines all over the protein, but that's probably a shot way too far (I recall working on some Drosophila proteins with particular cysteine pattern - they were involved in immunity. We were finding them by the pattern alone, because sequence similarity was too low).
- Pawel Szczesny
Thanks, Pawel, I'll follow up on this hint! Only problem I see is that th radish protein is not located in the nucleus: expression pattern by antibody staining in Fig. 5 of this PNAS paper: http://www.pnas.org/content...
- Björn Brembs
In the same paper, the authors write: "One last property of the Radish protein argues for its role in synaptic morphology. Formstecher et al. (24) carried out an extensive high-throughput yeast two-hybrid screen for interacting Drosophila gene products using 102 proteins as bait. Intriguingly, this analysis identified an interaction between CG15720 (Radish) and Rac1. Rac1 is a small...
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- Björn Brembs
@Heather - see above on what I currently know about radish and Rac1 :-)
- Björn Brembs
May be you have checked it already : Flybase provides a link to InParanoid orthologs - Eukaryotic orthologs in the Orthologs section.
- Khader Shameer
yes, I checked and even searched InParanoid - nothing at all :(
- Björn Brembs
I've finally read the paper from PNAS - similar analysis to mine ;). Serine/arginine rich proteins mostly bind nucleic acids (there are some others that are not part of spliceosome). Are at that particular location any nucleic acids? Binding to Rac1 alone doesn't make sense so far.
- Pawel Szczesny
@Pawel: you mean it may be part of protein synthesis? That may well be, as one effect of the radish mutation is on protein-synthesis-dependent memory!
- Björn Brembs
Nice post.. Proper identification is long overdue, and has been a problem for a long time. We are now in a situation that the tools are there to overcome this problem.
- Lucas Brouwers
...glad I'm not the only person who uses lyrics in the titles of their blog posts...
- Duncan Hull
Nicely done. I like dsi, but professions other than scientists will probably want to use the same service... dai, digital author identifier? dhi, digital human identifier? dimbl, digital identifier for a meat based lifeform?
- Bill Hooker
This isn't the first (or last...) time someone proposes a centralized author identification scheme. I'm not too optimistic about this happening. Outside of scientific publications this might not even be a good idea (hello big brother). Another approach would be to set up services that collect information about the relationship between personal URIs such as web site URLs, OpenID URLs and e-mail addresses. There's even a standard for publishing such data: http://www.foaf-project.org/
- Eric Jain
Is it about the service, about its adoption by publishers or about tracking contributions which aren't publications? Sorry if that's a silly question, but I'm somehow lost what the whole discussion concerning unique researcher ID is really about.
- Pawel Szczesny
@Pawel: The problem these proposals are addressing is that right now there is no reliable way to get a list of publications for a person -- especially if that person has a common name. I've even come across publications that had two authors with the exact same name!
- Eric Jain
*sigh* Why does it always seem that the system that becomes the standard isn't necessarily the best, but the one is easiest to implement?
- Mr. Gunn
Eric, thanks. But it doesn't going to work without publishers' support, right? Or we just make the list all by ourselves, using a service Jan has described? I've read Jan's post, but also I try to understand the real principle behind such idea. Are we going to calculate personalized impact factor out of such lists?
- Pawel Szczesny
@Pawel: Publishers would be in a good position to ensure that their author names (at least in future) are associated with some kind of identifier. Life would be simpler but I don't see a problem if this identifier is not a special and agreed upon author identifier but just an email address or any other URI (incl OpenID) or combination. If the publishers don't do this then the publication to author mapping can be (and in fact has been) done elsewhere. But again, there is no need for a single, central server.
- Eric Jain
I guess that what I describe in the post is more about a whole environment than a single thing. First of all there must be some way for researcher not interested at all in OpenID/Science2.0/... to get a unique identifier before they submit a paper. As that ID should not change it should not be the email address, and they will not want to go out on their own to find out how to get an OpenID. All the rest follows from that, basically. We can build such a system ourselves, as long as we have a way of ...
- Jan Aerts
@Pawel: The reason why I'm interested in this and wrote the post is that (a) I've got papers with my obsolete contact details on, and (b) I'm tired of explaining to employers that I do other stuff than just write papers. (a) would be solved by the a unique ID and (b) by some way of contribution-tracking (active or passive). I am not interested in personalized impact factor: your impact can be huge in the specific area you work in but become minuscule if you look at science in general.
- Jan Aerts
Meet the new plos. Same as the old ... er .... where was I?
- Henry Gee
I agree with the 'Big Brother' concern above - I don't see why the publication-focused author identifier necessarily has to be used for tracking of all-and-sundry information about a person. However, the point was raised on the other FF thread recently that the author/publication part of things really does need to be centralized for it to work (i.e. the CrossRef/DOI model). That's where things are headed anyway, which I think is fine.
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
...but if people want to link up their (future) 'microcredit' history for e.g. db-submisssions and whatnot with their publication profile, they should free to do so by. This could then be done via the person's master online identity (i.e. OpenID) to aggregate info from various sources. Main message: the user should be in charge of what gets aggregated and what doesn't.
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Yes, the idea of linking your researcher id to some main id like an openid is a good one, but I reiterate what was said in a previous thread on the matter - the ability to selectively hide and show various aspects of your online personality would be very important.
- Allyson Lister
Allyson - I totally agree, and that's one of the many cool things that OpenID promises: you can have multiple online personae, or profiles, associated with a single OpenID. E.g. work vs blogging vs shopping etc. Also, I think that many will find they in fact want completely seperate identities for certain things, ergo multiple OpenIDs.
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Gudmundur - can you have multiple online profiles right now with OpenId? I have one, but didn't know you could do that... Or is that just one of the "promises"? ;)
- Allyson Lister
Allyson - depends on the OpenID provider: I think the major ones like MyOpenID and ClaimID and Verisign offer some sort of profile management (I use https://www.myopenid.com myself currently). Dunno about Google and Yahoo and others who not-so-geeky people are like to use to get their feet wet with OpenID (coz they already have a Google or Yahoo account).
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Gudmundur - thanks. I actually ended up with two open ids: first, I had one from myopenid (and I still do), but haven't used it in a year because my blog provider, Vox, made all of their blog urls open ids. this is great, and what I use most of the time, but I now realized looking back at my myopenid account that it is a very, very basic service. Thanks for the info! This leads to the question: can we link open ids to each other? :)
- Allyson Lister
Allyson - that's the bit I don't know enough about. I agree that this would be a very useful thing to do, i.e. say that these 3x OpenIDs are really proxies for a single primary one. OpenID delegation is one way of doing this (see e.g. http://simonwillison.net/2006...), but then we're into geek-territory in terms of configuring the HTML header and whatnot. And not all relaying parties will accept delegated OpenIDs either, I believe..
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Email addresses may change, but so do identifier systems over time... The previously mentioned FOAF standard allows you to claim ownership of multiple email addresses [http://xmlns.com/foaf...] (without revealing the addresses to spammers) and associate them with OpenIDs [http://xmlns.com/foaf...] or other information such as your DNA checksum [http://xmlns.com/foaf...] :-)
- Eric Jain
If someone manages to set up a site that is targeted towards scientists and gets them to state a lot of previously unknown or ambiguous relationships between publications and email addresses and other information (and expose this information in a machine-understandable format) that would be great. But I don't think a new grand unified identifier system or any science-specific technologies are required for this.
- Eric Jain
Eric is making a lot of sense here. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a distributed system. Since we already have openID and FOAF, how about a campaign to get scientists to use them as contact details on publications, and to get journals to encourage this? That might have more immediate benefit than trying to (in some sense) re-invent the ID wheel.
- Bill Hooker
I like the thought of FOAF for sharing researcher contact details. I wonder if the in-the-works CrossReg service (see related FF discussion at http://friendfeed.com/e...) could do FOAF-RDF exports. I don't know much about FOAF - is there an author/publication (or more generic contributor/content thing) in FOAF, or could other schemas (Dublin Core, SKOS) be brought in to support this?
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
..[forgot this, sorry] is there a way to somehow merge multiple FOAF profiles, say hypothetically my author profile from in-the-works CrossReg and my personal profile from mummirox.com/profile?
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
if you want to merge two FOAF files you need a... unique identifier... :-) the properties foaf:mbox or foaf:mbox_sha1sum could be used to merge two profiles.
- Pierre Lindenbaum
Can also use any other attribute marked as an InverseFunctionalProperty at http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/ (incl foaf:openid) or in any other RDF-based vocabulary for merging. The neat thing is that not everyone needs to agree on using the same kind of unique identifier(s). The challenge of course is collecting the identifiers and getting them mapped. Services such as FF that collect (and make available) such data as a side effect look like a promising approach...
- Eric Jain
I like the way this discussion is going. If I were to submit a paper in the next couple weeks(and I am), what do you recommend I include and how do I do it?
- Mr. Gunn
well if I'm going to talk about "agile collaboration" it better be up to date - its actually just a default Keynote style - still learning how to drive the mac.
- Cameron Neylon
It's actually a very common mistake. I've stopped trying to correct people on it. You'd be surprised how many people give you push-back on it.
- Christian (Simply X)
They shouldnt put a damn duck on the packaging! :) yea I use to but in high school I was corrected!
- Brandy Lea
Well at least you didn't quack when you used it right...right?
- Anthony Farrior
Duct is one of those words I don't have time to pronounce correctly. Even after I found out it was Duct Tape, I still pretty much ignore that first 't' :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
When reciting the pledge of allegiance I always thought here was this guy Richard Stands when it was really "which it stands." And to the republic. For Richard Stands. Etc etc. Never mind.
- Dave Winer
Dave - I had to Google Richard Stands. SHAME ON ME.
- Mona Nomura
OK, Mona, you evoked a moment of self-conscious recollection ............... In the 7th grade, on many occasions "locket rauncher" came out of my mouth instead of the intended "rocket launcher". This is an essential phrase for Jr High boys, btw, so sufficiently embarrassing. It's a spoonerism, but back then I didn't know it had a cool name :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Micah Wittman
I knew it was duct tape. I thought people who called it duck tape were just being funny.
- Morton Fox
I think this actually speaks to a larger socialogical issue that exists in current Western societies wherein the attractive looking people are allowed mistakes such as this because it's 'cute.'
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I was just in Home Depot the other day, and they had on sale a brand name of duct tape called DUCK TAPE. So, you know, if you want, you could always say that this is what you meant, Mona. :)
- Steven Perez
Mona... I say duck tape... And will continue to do so :)
- Johnny Worthington
hahahhahaha Then I will continue to do so, too!
- Mona Nomura
In the UK there is a brand actually called Duck Tape with picture of duck etc, so it's hardly surprising people get confused - but it's DUCT tape, or where I come from it's actually GAFFER tape, from the film/TVindustry where the gaffer would use it to mend whatever
- Ivan Pope
from twhirl
I worked at Staples for 7 years.....there was a brand "DUCK" tape with a duck mascot too...I always thought it was Duct, but say Duck LOL
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
it's no different to calling vacuum cleaners "hoovers" or correction fluid "tipp-ex". Or searching "googling". It's just the name of the most prominent brand for the product.
- alphaxion
or making copies xeroxing, etc etc, completely agree
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
would you like a Post-It with your Duck Tape? ;)
- alphaxion
Me too. It's the way the cool kids say it.
- Chris Nixon
It's perfectly ok. I specifically use Duck tape to tie up my rogue ducks during interrogation and when necessary, waterboarding :)
- Amit Pradhan
LOL! Won't even ask for a thread concerning incorrect music lyrics but....husband(bass player) thought the first line of Born to be Wild was, "itch'n for a runnin' and so sang this line every time they played the song. He was in his mid 40's before corrected version known "Get your motor running" :)
- Janet
A few years ago someone showed (scientifically!) that one thing duct tape does not work on is ducts. Dunno how well it works on ducks, though.
- Bob O'Hara
When I first heard "Don't look back in anger" I could have sworn they sung "Totalican ways" instead of "So Sally can wait"
- alphaxion
How about this -- on Romper Room, when the kids ate their milk and cookies, first they had to pray to god to thank him for the food. I thought god was the handy man who brought the food in.
- Dave Winer
@Dave, I watched Romper Room when I was very little, but about all I remember is the mirror. Did they really pray? Wow, I either forgot about that, or just missed it.
- Joey Gibson
I used to tell the kids at school, my father was a beast. What I really meant was Obese.
- Marcus Beagley
I called duck tape DUCT tape for the longest time, until Bora Zivkovic posted that Wikipedia link to confuse me and Alex Scoble corrected me.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Duck Tape, WD 40, and Slick 50 are shade tree essentials.
- Wallace
@Wallace: "You only need two tools in life: WD-40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and it shouldn't, use the duct tape."
- Jemm
if you have ever tried to secure a duck to something, you know that the only thing that will work is duck tape. i've tried soldering, welding, scotch tape, glue, bubble gum, everything short of rivets. duck tape is the best for such purposes.
- Morgan Haley
Mona: that works well on Gorillas and other primates, but not too well on ducks. the natural water-shedding capabilities on most waterfowl prevents the gorilla glue from adhering as tightly as one would expect.
- Morgan Haley
@neil, daniel This is heart-warming, guys :-) And of course we also have Jean-Claude Van Damme, the Muscles from Brussels. OK, I didn't say that.
- Jan Aerts
In this post I explain how to compute PageRank using the MapReduce approach to parallelization. This gives us a way of computing PageRank that can in principle be automatically parallelized, and so potentially scaled up to very large link graphs, i.e., to very large collections of webpages. In this post I describe a single-machine implementation which easily handles a million or so pages. In future posts we’ll use a cluster to scale out much further - it’ll be interesting to see how far we can get.
- Meryn Stol
It was mostly grandiose ideas that were beyond my technical capacity, like a "Free Akamai" for anyone to push files into the cloud, "Windows Update for all software" (like the recently-launched AppSnap or Baseshield), and "Taste matching for all media" (i.e. a public recommender service). One that I actually started building, but didn't finish, was "Meaty.org: Manage real-life meetings for online communities." Meetup launched when I was half-done, so I abandoned it.
- Andy Baio
I prefer the name "Meaty" over "Meetup" any day of the week...
- Tony Ruscoe
Not fun? apply and friends make me jump with joy :)
- Rajarshi Guha
For a few months I worked almost exclusively in R and I would often hear the following from our statistician: "I don't know if that's a feature or a bug"
- Jeremy Leipzig
R looks strange to me. But that's because I've only 'looked' at it so far - I like stats, and so I'm goanna learn R :D
- Yuvi
Thanks all! This was a fun little diversion. I'm curious to see if anyone actually *adds* any images...
- Todd Harris
This is great. Makes you wonder if we could build quite complex data management systems using APIs to existing web services (Flickr, various Google tools, FriendFeed...) and aggregating to a portal.
- Neil Saunders
This looks so cool and simple that I can't really grasp why nobody hasn't done this before. Not sure what Flickr's TOS says about this but it's quite brilliant.
- Ricardo Vidal
Cameron: happy to contribute! Ricardo: I think as long as images are linked back to Flickr, this is within the TOS. We'll see the next time someone decides to LWP::Simple their way through our expression patterns!
- Todd Harris
Neil: I've been working along the exact same lines, building resources for less well-characterized (and less well-funded) organisms. You need a foundation upon which to layer third party services. I'm using a genome browser with rudimentary annotations: gene models with stable identifiers. It's a great leg up if you have limited resources and presents some intriguing mashup possibilities for larger operations, too.
- Todd Harris
The question I was going to ask was about the license - could it be CC-BY by default? But yes, using Flickr for research image management is really a no brainer - it would be great to wire up something more complex and automated. To a certain extent this is what Jean-Claude already does but withou automated aggregation.
- Cameron Neylon
Ah, I see. I got my 2.0 communications lines crossed. I tend to think the licensing should be left up to the contributor. I'm not familiar with Jean-Claude's work. Linky?
- Todd Harris
Would there be interest in developing a set of ubiquity science commands, hosted on Github or Google Code? There are a few commands out already, but it would be nice to have them coordinated.
Thomas Lemberger started a Google Code project here: http://code.google.com/p... and I've just joined since I had the same feeling that we could coordinate our efforts.
- Pawel Szczesny
let us know what license would be the most appropriate... I picked GPLv3 close to randomly!
- Thomas Lemberger
Should I include my 'add-doi' too? It works for blogger.com, but reported not the work on NN, because they do not use <a@href>... rich text type detection could be hacked in later... or should I set up a blogger/ folder?
- Egon Willighagen
I modified Egon's add-doi to use textile formatting (e.g. for Nature Network). Saved as textilize-doi in a separate textile folder.
- Martin Fenner
Martin, now if we only could integrate both scripts and make it aware of the target platform... btw, you did not modify my script, but payed close attention to what I did :) otherwise, you would have to list me as author for your script too...
- Egon Willighagen
2. Dressage commentator: 'This is really a lovely horse and I speak from personal experience since I once mounted her mother.' 3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: 'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father.'
- Sally Church
4. Boxing Analyst: 'Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths in boxing, but none of them really that serious.' 5. Softball announcer: 'If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again.'
- Sally Church
6. Basketball analyst: 'He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.' 7. At the rowing medal ceremony: 'Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.'
- Sally Church
8. Soccer commentator: 'Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've got eleven Dicks on the field.'
- Sally Church
9. Tennis commentator: 'One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them... Oh my God, what have I just said?'
- Sally Church
It's tough to fill 3000 hours of programming with commentary!
- Bill Sodeman
LOL
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Yeah, but the last one was a pearler. In the UK we call them 'Coleman Balls' after David Coleman, the commentator was always making them, much to the amusement of the audience
- Sally Church
via Vince Smith (http://vsmith.info/): "essentially a mashup of content from Wikipedia and flickr, pinned around the Catalogue of Life classification. Users can submit their own observation data linked with photos through their flickr account, and build life lists of the species they have seen. There are Google Map mashups and a neat time-line that allows users to see the date of their observations (something that would be vital for birders). You can also submit requests for species identifications through a forum"
- Bill Hooker
Wow. I had almost the exact same idea for a fun side web project. Since I have no time for such projects anymore, it's great that someone else did it :)
- Neil Saunders
I hope this spreads around blogs - it is a cool idea, but only if there are LOTS of people doing this it will also become a resource.
- Bora Zivkovic
If you promoted it as nudism, you might actually succeed too :)
- Deepak Singh
Agree with Bora - a great resource, if enough people. Eva's recent post "me first, social later" is relevant here. If it's well designed, it will appeal to individuals who like to record these kind of data. Get enough people and the network effect kicks in. I see a flaw or two in their interface just now e.g. no calendar for the "when seen" field.
- Neil Saunders
although, a lot of the groups I belong to on flickr manage to incorporate a lot of identification data gathering and consensus within the group. "Just Skippers!" for example, a group that's just about Skipper butterflies. Someone will post a pic of one, ask for an ID. People will say "I think it's x skipper, or could be y's skipper" "Really? Never heard of those ones" "Where in the country are you from?" "Which country?" "Oh, are you from overseas?" "No, I'm right here" etc… Sometimes it works, though.
- Ian Tindale