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Google Flu Trends - http://www.google.org/flutren...
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Click http://google.org/flutrends for the real-time app. We've found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity. Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity in your state up to two weeks faster than traditional systems.
- Mitchell Tsai
See "Google search engine flags flu activity in U.S." [Reuters - 11/11/08] http://reuters.com/article... http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
Studies indicate that between 35 and 40 percent of all visits to the Internet are begun by people looking for health information. When people are sick, they tend to look up their symptoms.
- Mitchell Tsai
Google Flu Trends uses search terms that people put into the Web-based search engine to figure out where influenza is heating up, and notify the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in real time. Google is keeping the search terms it uses private, but influenza-like illnesses include symptoms such as fever, muscle aches and cough. Sneezing usually occurs with other viruses such as rhinoviruses.
- Mitchell Tsai
"One thing we found last year when we validated this model is it tended to predict surveillance data," Finelli said.
- Mitchell Tsai
"The data are really, really timely. They were able to tell us on a day-to-day basis the relative direction of flu activity for a given area. They were about a week ahead of us. They could be used ... as early warning signal for flu activity."
- Mitchell Tsai
Influenza kills an estimated 36,000 people a year in the United States and 250,000-500,000 globally.
- Mitchell Tsai
Experts are keen to track flu activity in case of a pandemic -- a global epidemic of a new and deadly strain of flu that could kill millions within a few months.
- Mitchell Tsai
i hear the Google Flu is not as bad as it sounds, though... ;)
- edythe
but seriously, mitchell, this is awesome.
- edythe
Polly: I love this idea of using Google (and/or social networks)'s knowledge of what people are interested in to benefit society (and not just whether we're going to be terrorists). I'd love to see similar efforts in monitoring (1) what cancer patients are looking at for cures/treatments (2) what kids & adults are interested in (3) popular exciting travel spots
- Mitchell Tsai
How can we move "news" to the next generation past (a) Digg/Reedit (b) Google News (c) Disqus/Google Reader/FriendFeed (d) Flickr/picture-sharing (e) Wikipedia. The "Google Flu monitoring" seems to be the 1st jump in bringing data-mining of social networks to new usefulness. What if we had a service which took "50 pages in Wikipedia most active" combined with some "educational benefit" metric to inform us about newly active topics?
- Mitchell Tsai
Twitter/Summize combo kicks-butt for monitoring real-time events (1) earthquakes (2) elections... but it's still a huge swamp of info. Could services like "Google Flu Trends" pull out 100 interesting topics from all the Twitter traffic? (kind of big-brother for a good purpose)
- Mitchell Tsai
i made a flu room! http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Brian Ries
Thanks Brian. Nice flu articles. Many nations' leaders spend money REAL fast when faced with possible pandemics. They're not stupid...
- Mitchell Tsai
Gregory, the profit margin on vaccines is actually quite low, which is why the pharmaceutical companies aren't inclined to produce tons of it. The influenza virus changes its genetic make-up every year, forcing the vaccine makers to anticipate what strain will be predominant, and sometimes the vaccine makers guess wrong.
- Victor Ganata
http://reason.com/news... "In the past three decades, the number of vaccine manufacturers in America has plummeted, as the industry has been flooded with lawsuits." He added. "Today, there is only one manufacturer in the United States that can produce influenza vaccine." Since 1967 the number of American vaccine manufacturers has dropped from 26 to just 4 today. The problem...
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- Mitchell Tsai
...another example of how medical & legal reform are so closely intertwined...
- Mitchell Tsai
Tough world of profits http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2... (Good) Net product sales for the year ended December 31, 2005, increased 12 percent, or $155 million, compared to the year ended December 31, 2004, primarily due to $96 million in sales of FLUVIRIN vaccine in 2005, compared to $2 million in sales of FLUVIRIN vaccine in 2004, which related to late sales from the 2003-2004 influenza season.
- Mitchell Tsai
(Bad) As previously reported, in the year ended December 31, 2004, the entire FLUVIRIN vaccine product inventory was written off, resulting in a $91 million charge to cost of sales. No sales of BEGRIVAC influenza virus vaccine in 2005 due to a product sterility issue
- Mitchell Tsai
http://jhsph.edu/publich... It’s important to point out that the current vaccine crisis is an extreme example of what’s wrong with the vaccine supply system in the United States. Many people are quick to criticize industry, but making flu vaccine is really difficult.
- Mitchell Tsai
Companies do not receive the virus strains for the vaccine until March. They are expected, on a very tight timeline, to get an egg supply, grow the vaccine and have it ready to ship by September or October. They charge anywhere from $8 to $22 a dose, which is not a large profit margin.
- Mitchell Tsai
http://weeklystandard.com/Content... http://qando.net/details... Why is it that 100 percent of our flu vaccines are now made by two companies in Europe? Chiron was scheduled to supply 46 million of the 100 million doses to be administered in the United States this year. The other 54 million will come from Aventis Pasteur, a French company with headquarters in Strasbourg. ---- Trial lawyers drove the American manufacturers out of the business.
- Mitchell Tsai
Today there are only four that make any type of vaccine and none making flu vaccine. Wyeth was the last to fall, dropping flu shots after 2002. For recently emerging illnesses such as Lyme disease, there is no commercial vaccine, even though one has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
- Mitchell Tsai
All this is the result of a legal concept called "liability without fault" that emerged from the hothouse atmosphere of the law schools in the 1960s and became the law of the land. Under the old "negligence" regime, you had to prove a product manufacturer had done something wrong in order to hold it liable for damages.
- Mitchell Tsai
Under liability without fault, on the other hand, the manufacturer can be held responsible for harm from its products, whether blameworthy or not. Add to that the jackpot awards that come from pain-and-suffering and punitive damages, and you have a legal climate that no manufacturer wants to risk.
- Mitchell Tsai
In theory, prices might have been jacked up enough to make vaccine production profitable even with the lawsuit risk, but federal intervention made vaccines a low-margin business. Before 1993, manufacturers sold vaccines to doctors, doctors prescribed them to patients, and there was some markup. Then Congress adopted the Vaccine for Children Act, which made the government a monopsony...
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- Mitchell Tsai
As recently as 1980, 18 American companies made eight different vaccines for various childhood diseases. Today, four companies--GlaxoSmithKline, Aventis, Merck, and Wyeth--make 12 vaccines. Of the 12, seven are made by only one company and only one is made by more than two. "There are constant shortages," says Dr. Paul Offit, head of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital...
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- Mitchell Tsai
The intersection between mass vaccinations and the tort system was bound to be messy. When you vaccinate enough people, someone, somewhere, is going to have a bad reaction. You could give a glass of milk to 100 million people and a few would inevitably get violently sick from it.
- Mitchell Tsai
The first instance of this came in 1955 with polio vaccinations. Cutter Laboratories, the California company that now distributes Cutter's Insect Repellent, made an early batch of vaccines, some of which had live viruses in them. Almost all the children in Idaho were administered the vaccine and several dozen contracted polio.
- Mitchell Tsai
The jury found Cutter's actions were not negligent--the orders had been rushed, standards had not been clear, and safety precautions were still rudimentary at the time. But, using the new doctrine of liability without fault, the jury held Cutter accountable anyway and awarded $147,300. "That decision made Ralph Nader possible," Belli later claimed.
- Mitchell Tsai
"It was a turning point," says Dr. Offit, whose book The Cutter Incident will be published next year. "Because of the Cutter decision, vaccines became one of the first medical products to be eliminated by lawsuits."
- Mitchell Tsai
Yale Law Journal published an article arguing that insurance against adverse reactions was the solution. Unfortunately, this thesis failed to anticipate how high damage awards would go.
- Mitchell Tsai
WHEN AN UNUSUAL EPIDEMIC occurred in 1976, the federal government decided to vaccinate the whole country against the new "swine flu." To the astonishment of Congress, the insurance companies refused to participate. The Congressional Budget Office predicted that with 45 million Americans inoculated, there would be 4,500 injury claims and 90 damage awards, totaling $2 million. Congress decided to provide the insurance.
- Mitchell Tsai
As Peter Huber recounts in his book Liability, the CBO's first estimate proved uncannily accurate. A total of 4,169 damage claims were filed. However, not 90 but more than 700 suits were successful and the total bill to Congress came to over $100 million, 50 times what the CBO had predicted. The insurance companies knew their business well.
- Mitchell Tsai
Adding to the problem are the predictable panics about vaccines that spread among parents and are abetted by trial lawyers. In 1974, a British researcher published a paper claiming that the vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) had caused seizures in 36 children, leading to 22 cases of epilepsy or mental retardation.
- Mitchell Tsai
Subsequent studies proved the claim to be false, but in the meantime Japan canceled inoculations, resulting in 113 preventable whooping cough deaths. In the United States, 800 pertussis vaccine lawsuits asking $21 million in damages were filed over the next decade. The cost of a vaccination went from 21 cents to $11.
- Mitchell Tsai
Every American drug company dropped pertussis vaccine except Lederle Laboratories. In 1980, Lederle lost a liability suit for the paralysis of a three-month-old infant--even though there was almost no evidence implicating the vaccine. Lederle's damages were $1.1 million, more than half its gross revenues from sale of the vaccine for that entire year.
- Mitchell Tsai
In 1998, the FDA approved a vaccine for Lyme disease, which strikes 15,000 people a year. GlaxoSmithKline manufactured it for three years but quit when rumors began circulating that the vaccine caused arthritis.
- Mitchell Tsai
Each year in February, the Centers for Disease Control meets with the vaccine-makers--all two of them--and decides which strain of the virus to anticipate for next year. Then they both make the same vaccine. Last year the committee bet on the Panama strain, but a rogue "Fujian" strain suddenly emerged as a surprise invader. A mini-epidemic resulted and 93 children died, only two of them properly vaccinated.
- Mitchell Tsai
Whether doctors are quitting the profession because of an out-of-control tort system, whether malpractice premiums are the cause of health care increases--such hardy perennials of the litigation debate are still a subject of lively controversy. But with vaccines there is no argument. Trial lawyers have all but ruined the market. Yet they are still unwilling to take responsibility.
- Mitchell Tsai
What is frustrating about all this is that vaccination is such an easy intervention, and so many lives have been saved with near-universal vaccination against childhood diseases. When you do the cold-hard calculus comparing the number of adverse events versus the number of deaths prevented, it definitely seems worth it. Unfortunately, the mathematics of the legal and economic end of things don't agree.
- Victor Ganata
Thanks Mitchell.. mind if I write this up for GoogleTutor?
- Phil G
Victor: (A) It seems "right" that people might be compensated for dying due to a vaccine. (B) However, when a drug company's entire profit margin can be wiped out by 2 lawsuits, how can you do business? (C) We might look to the Japanese legal system which sets maximum damages. Or just ask people to "suck up". If you die due to vaccine (and it's not the manufacturers fault), that's the risk you take for the possible protection.
- Mitchell Tsai
Phil: Feel free to write this for Google Tutor (what's that?). Journalistic disclaimer: I haven't triple-checked my sources... :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Similar question: If we go to a surgeon for a 95% effective surgery, do we sue the doctor for the 5% deaths? ---- Another industry with a different answer (Employee injuries): In worker's comp, people decided that employers will pay for everything, to save the legal fees from deciding everything in court. Thus, a homeowner would be liable for a mailman slipping on their icy driveway.
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: http://www.googletutor.com - A site related to all things Google.
- Phil G
In terms of malpractice, pain and suffering caps seem to be preventing physicians from fleeing the state of California. Is it a different kind of tort law that pharmaceutical companies are subject to, or would such a thing apply?
- Victor Ganata
Currently, the answer is that, yes, the surgeon can get sued for those deaths, even if he/she did everything right. The answer clearly lies in limiting the damages awarded.
- Victor Ganata
The case for the tort system causing physician discontent is pretty minimal, at least if you're practicing in a state that has pain and suffering caps. There are a lot of other reasons why docs are throwing in the towel.
- Victor Ganata
Enjoying the ice swimming.:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
ffThreadKiller: find out how often you kill threads - you're the last person to comment - on FriendFeed! - http://chrispeoples.com/ffthrea...
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wow. LOL!
- vijay
this is very very beta. things are pretty sparse right now but I thought this would be a nice little tool.
- chrisofspades
FYI, it doesn't count all of your comments! as of now it only counts the last 500 or so posts you've commented on.
- chrisofspades
19% KILLZ! I HAZ SKILLZ!
- vijay
i always suspected this - glemak killed 425 threads! [44% kill rate] - pls someone comment below me so my kill rate doesn't go up ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
FYI.2, it only counts posts that have more than one comment, unless it's someone else's post.
- chrisofspades
@mike that's a hall of fame kill rate!
- chrisofspades
@chrisofspades I've killed more threads than you, but we have the same kill rate.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
this is why ff is superior to twitter btw ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
ericajoy killed 237 threads! [24% kill rate] :(
- EricaJoy
lol chris - just added that to my profile - w/ pride :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Awesome. I knew I was a thread-killer (26%!)
- Louis Simoneau
anyone can beat 31%?
- Paulo Nuin
steplow killed 203 threads! [21% kill rate]
- Steve Lowe
44% bring it ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
The question is: who is going to kill _this_ thread?
- Steve Lowe
chrisloft killed 94 threads! [9% kill rate] - hmm my worst fears have not eventuated - now I can sleep at nights -[
- Chris Loft
Mine is probably close to 4K. EDIT: It says 182 (29%). That can not be right.
- Anika
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! I'll be back in a mo....
- WorldofHiglet
zeigen killed 253 threads! [38% kill rate]
- Stephen Mack
worldofhiglet killed 205 threads! [27% kill rate] I am not trying hard enough.....MUST KILL HARDER!
- WorldofHiglet
...cool tool, btw :)
- WorldofHiglet
:}]]] good one ... now, i want to say "thank you" to the person who said or revealed something to me, on the other hand, i know that "thank you" comments is 1. empty 2. bumps up uncessarily the post 3. kills/covers/ the previous info easy display ... what should i do? .. id prefer some time expiring comments, or something ..:] .... btw - petrbuben killed 59 threads! [5% kill rate]
- Petr Buben
Aww, I broke it: "Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /home/chrispeoples/chrispeoples.com/ffthreadkiller/index.php on line 24 ... No results for bitseybloom."
- The Bohemian Penguin
lol, awesomeness - lunareclipse killed 92 threads! [24% kill rate]
- Sarah Peterman
Uh oh ... I'm afraid even check. I feel like I'm often last on threads because I'm late ... I like to think that I'm commenting on threads that are already dead anyway, and my comment is just failing to resurrect them.
- Andrew Perry
faithx5 killed 186 threads! [22% kill rate] Ha! Fun tool.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
@Chris .. are you gonna get into stuff like 1. who commented first 2.who liked first 3. who likes the least liked, the most liked .. this is going viiraaal 8] ...... and, how about UPDATING our own comments into a tabbed thread? ////////// and yes, i do am waiting for real time CLOUD - of comments, of search, of public line .....
- Petr Buben
Okay, I couldn't resist ... I have a 28 % kill rate.
- Andrew Perry
briansullivan killed 177 threads! [17% kill rate]
- Brian Sullivan
scobleizer killed 13 threads! [10% kill rate] -- what does the percentage kill rate really mean?
- Brian Sullivan
means you are active, and have often the last word :] /?
- Petr Buben
232 threads (25%) here.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Yeah, I like Peter's definition...:D
- WorldofHiglet
I kill threads for a living.
- Andrew Trinh
aha:] ..well i think we really need some neat buttons +1 -1 at every comment /? , and blog it, tweet it buttons/checkboxes ... /?
- Petr Buben
so am i still top dog (44%) - by the way, i will kill this thread too muwahaha ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Only killed 70 for a 20% kill rate. Does that mean I've only commented on 350 threads?
- Lindsey is Fierce!
d0tski killed 167 threads! [25% kill rate] AWESOME!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
I've killed killed 193 threads! [18% kill rate] - damn, need to stop commenting AT ALL
- William Harryman
sharonmcp killed 153 threads! [23% kill rate] Damn, this is feeding my inferiority complex. :-)
- Sharon McPherson
ajbatac killed 127 threads! [14% kill rate] I told you... I'm a thread killer
- AJ Batac
i killed 182 threads! [18% kill rate]
- Cee Bee
@AJ: pfft! 14%? peanuts!
- Louis Simoneau
theycallmetater killed 168 threads! [20% kill rate]
- Alan Simpson
yagamidai killed 204 threads! [42% kill rate] ( I'm almost a superman~ ! U~~hahaha )
- yagami
this should show the number of total comments one has made as well
- Cee Bee
I've killed 114 threads for a 26% kill rate.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
ambertides killed 138 threads! [26% kill rate]
- Alix Whitmire
comix killed 325 threads! [46% kill rate] I think this says something about me but I'm not sure I want to know what. :) Ha may hap I'll kill this one as well *cue evil laughter*
- martha
arc315 killed 420 threads! [39% kill rate]
- Andrew C
I'll be back after the game to address some of your comments. glad you guys like it!
- chrisofspades
199, 19%
- ronin
brome killed 145 threads! [31% kill rate]
- Brome
zoblue killed 248 threads! [25% kill rate]
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
mokargas killed 265 threads! [26% kill rate] MUHAHAHAHA
- Mo Kargas
How about excluding single-message threads from the calculations? [31% kill rate]
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
martha you are the new top dog - welcome to the hall of fame of threadkillers ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Top five, 41%. I told you not to argue with me unless you had something to say. But it's a meaningless statistic unless recalculated in relation to all (presumably-read) subscribed-to feeds and their total number of comments. So I'm killing this thread ;-))
- ianf ⌘
ajkohn killed 203 threads! [20% kill rate]
- AJ Kohn
I do it all the time; I find thne key is to be obtuse and neutral, people have a hard time arguing or agreeing. FTW indeed... Or FTD.
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
I killed 150 (15%). I'm not a heavy commenter anyway. :)
- Alejandro
*Deadpan* Oh hoo ray :D
- martha
It says I only killed 16 threads, which can't possibly be right.
- Morton Fox
I told you already, I AM KILLING THIS THREAD. Don't make me repeat this, or else.
- ianf ⌘
Sweet! I've killed 256 threads! [26% kill rate] - EDIT: Including this one.
- Christopher Harley
Can't you read? You begin in the left margin, and go letter-by-letter to the right: I AM KILLING THIS THREAD. Don't make me repeat this, or else
- ianf ⌘
That never works but this does.
- Christopher Harley
You did that again! Uppercase apparently not enough for y'all. In any event here it is once more I AM KILLING THIS THREAD. Don't make me repeat this, or else
- ianf ⌘
metalerik killed 47 threads! [22% kill rate] I'm pretty sure I would have won this in my first few months though. now off to set alarm for 3 weeks from now to come back and kill.
- metalerik
profitbaron killed 367 threads! [37% kill rate]
- Nicholas James
37% is known as "nuthing" around here (41%). Anyway, folks, it's official: I AM KILLING THIS THREAD NOW. Go post somewhere else.
- ianf ⌘
vzx killed 144 threads! [14% kill rate]
- Vezquex: God of FF
21%
- Robert Kenney
I stand bowed in awe. Still KILLING THIS THREAD, NOW. Move on to greener pastures, ye friendly sheep of Friendfeed!
- ianf ⌘
23%; not too shabby.
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
LOL! I've killed 37% (355 threads...) bad, bad me.
- Karoli
No, you didn't you're still a kitten in ThreadKiller terms. Wasn't this THREAD KILLED by now?
- ianf ⌘
micahwittman killed 270 threads! [26% kill rate] ~ though I plead merely "put in a coma" for at least 12%.
- Micah Wittman
Nice work on this app, Chris. Look forward to its progress :)
- Micah Wittman
Man, if I could only count my comments from TechcrunchIT....
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
gah ! most difficult comment ever... i think i'm at 238 / 24%
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Phew! 210 threads for a 27% kill rate. I was worried that it was going to come up like 95%...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
jemm killed 173 threads! [19% kill rate] Great idea :D
- Jemm
I've just created a group: http://friendfeed.com/ffthrea.... Please put all your questions, comments, and suggestions there, thanks!
- chrisofspades
imabonehead killed 255 threads! [24% kill rate]
- imabonehead
Oh, Wow! My kill rate is 48% (259 threads).
- Vijay
279, 32% :-( It would be nice to have a tweet this option.
- Kol Tregaskes
235, I thought I was good, until I read this thread!
- Mr. Gunn
Does this include entries imported via the custom RSS service in FF BTW?
- Kol Tregaskes
pattonroberta killed 206 threads! [30% kill rate]
- RAPatton
Yeah baby: rickcogley killed 216 threads! [32% kill rate]
- Rick Cogley
kateb killed 127 threads! [25% kill rate] That'll teach 'em
- Kate
joedawson killed 278 threads! [27% kill rate]
- Joe Dawson
castillo killed 206 threads! [26% kill rate]
- JA Castillo
woww, it's a great idea!
- Kaan Şengül
martha still tops at 46% - rock on :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'll be back.:) ericlogan killed 106 threads! [12% kill rate]
- Eric Logan
I feel better now. I´m not the terminator. (36%)
- ★ Esther Rudolph
I only killed 20%? Feels like more...
- Holger Eilhard
20%. I need to improve :)
- Baard @ Pixum
30%, but when I checked the list, it included threads that I hadn't killed...or maybe I don't understand what a "kill" is....?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
I am with Barry -- what is the percentage of anyway?
- Brian Sullivan
dariusmdev killed 190 threads! [24% kill rate]
- Matthew DeVries
261, 29% kill rate. I could play in the majors hitting .290
- Steve C
baldie killed 155 threads! [17% kill rate]
- Rahul Das
guruvan killed 330 threads! [35% kill rate] -gonna have to work at th 46% - there should be another number on this that weights murderous effect by the sheer number of comments. (i.e. if you made 4 comments, and killed 2 threads, that's not as impressive as if you have 10,000 comments and killed 4,000 of them.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yeah, except I call that "saved them from derailing." Anyway, GAME OVER THREAD KILLED HERE & NOW.
- ianf ⌘
@Guru .. this is true. why not also supply an outright a plain list of strongest commenteurs, but please, exclude those "descriptions imported as comments" ........ well i have seen a thread in russian here with 4600 comments . so i do wonder, who will kill this one ? :]]]] upd:btw, this is 111th comment .. wonder who will make 222th .. hm, maybe its 112th
- Petr Buben
This tool is likely to prevent me from being a chatty Kathy on FriendFeed - Lucky for all of you!
- Arleen Anderson
I like being a thread killer (sometimes). It means you see my comment all the time ;) If there was a conclusion to be made in the discussion, it seems the thread killer made it. If, on the other hand, the thread was just a conversation, and some boor just spews forth and kills it...well....
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
what rob said ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Huh ?
- Eric Logan
when people posting at long comments threads, do you also read previous posts ? :]
- Petr Buben
238 threads. 27%. http://ff.im/3VVzM
- Parth Awasthi
63 threads, 22% kill rate, excluding this one :) .
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
petr - yes always
- mike "glemak" dunn
hm. i see ... should we somehow draw online - collaboration ... some scissor-- game to eliminate to the last, whol get to khool it here ? ...:I
- Petr Buben
vmlemon killed 304 threads! [42% kill rate]
- Tyson Key
Meh
- Tyson Key
219 threads @ 24%
- Mitch
Thread killer doesn't like me... it doesn't see me. Or have I not killed any? Naw....
- Arleen Anderson
Arleen, it says "alohaarleen <http://friendfeed.com/alohaar...> killed *27* threads <http://friendfeed.com/alohaar...>! [40% kill rate]". you haven't killed many, but you do have some ;)
- chrisofspades
from email
I killed 135 threads! [22% kill rate] :o http://chrispeoples.com/ffthrea...
- LouCypher
8 threads! [10% kill rate]
- OnuRC
shey killed 150 threads! [25% kill rate] OUCH!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
180 threads -[20% rate] ... OUCH!!
- Amani
I'm getting ready to listen to the Ffundercats podcast, and found this thread on the Ffundercats blog page. empoprises killed 326 threads! [32% kill rate] I figured it would be higher, but perhaps it doesn't count threads that I start - if those were included, my kill rate would be much higher.
- John E. Bredehoft
John, it does count those threads, provided they have more than one comment. more info here: http://friendfeed.com/ffthrea...
- chrisofspades
from email
My thread-killing prowess has improved. Last week it was 269 threads and 26%, now it is 276 threads and 27%. Fear me!
- DGentry
25%
- Mike Reynolds
mitchelltsai killed 398 threads! [41% kill rate]
- Mitchell Tsai
keeping steady: .. killed 54 threads! [32% kill rate] including this one
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
The ability to Hide By Keyword Filter would fix many people's gripes of wanting to hide x or y.
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You realize of course that it'd require an enormous extra load on the server, with accompanying latency, every time a feed is being updated for umpteen concurrent readers? Or else, if implemented client-sidewise, near-constant rewriting of current page after local filter op.
- ianf ⌘
I'm trying to be cordial about the Flickchart haters - just saddens and frustrates me to think that some people think what we're working on is just "spam".
- Nathan Chase
there are flickchart "haters" seriously?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Was Flickchart even mentioned before you brought it up?
- ianf ⌘
<<<hate flickchart.
- Richard Lawler
Mike, there is someone who hates something that gets fed into here.
- Anika
i remember when folks were hating on photos but hiding a service help w/ that - flickchart is non-intrusive and simple fun - must be really sad folks that are hating on it
- mike "glemak" dunn
There have been some definite hate: http://friendfeed.com/garygan..., http://friendfeed.com/bitchfe..., http://friendfeed.com/tobstar...
- Nathan Chase
Yes, but not in this thread. Or perhaps Flickchart deserves to be the only keyword of importance to be filtered out?
- ianf ⌘
define "non-intrusive"
- Richard Lawler
@ianf - certainly not - I wasn't implying as much, I'm just sharing my frustration from my point of view, that's all
- Nathan Chase
I certainly was wanting a "hide by keyword" for "swine flu" when that's all that seemed to be talked about non-stop
- Nathan Chase
nathan: gary's is strange because his feed shows that he has been sharing flickchart matchups so maybe he's confused, the second is private so not sure and the third is toby who i've been sub'd to for a long time - he can be snarky - i wouldn't get to caught up in haters, many folks like it :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I wrote a greasemonkey script to do keyword filters - http://friendfeed-savior.bjornstar.com/
- Bjorn Stromberg
Nice, Bjorn. Adding Spymaster related spam to that now.
- Michael W. May
nice! is more FF stuff coming? ..and could this be group specific? .what i think is crucial is the ease of exclusion word setup .. could you, for example, put it on a right click? or keyboard shortcut?. thanks
- Petr Buben
Hey, I didn't know about your script, Bjorn. I like the whitelist / blacklist and link to unhide aspects. I wrote a service filtering script (functional in realtime mode) that also has keyword filtering (blacklisting only, but it's robust in that it uses a regex to a get the edge cases like avoiding false positive substring matches) http://friendfeed.com/friendf... . If you ever want to bounce off ideas on scripts for FF, just shout :)
- Micah Wittman
*Need* a control, that doesn't allow private feeds to subscribe.
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Ed, can you elaborate on this, I'm not sure I quite understand. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Like a switch Kol - an on/off option. Eg a check-box.
- Isha (Marysia)
I'm not still following, sorry. An on/off option for what? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
You mean you don't want people with a private feed to be able to subscribe to you?
- Glenn Slaven
As someone who required the use of a private feed for 4 months, I would be interested in why you would want this...
- Johnny Worthington
If someone subscribes, I believe their feed should be visible to me. Or, perhaps a setting in my dashboard "Allow private accounts to subscribe to you?"
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Weird. This was just emailed to me, though that setting has never been on. Or at least not for a year.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed, I think what you just described is the more appropriate option... some degree of automatic reciprocation, even though if you have a public feed, anyone in the world can see it.
- LogEx
I know my subscription, subscriber, comment and like counts - could I also have my post count? (direct to FriendFeed and not total when counting the additional feeds (twitter, last.fm, etc.) )
Alex Scoble, (jeff)isageek, Iain Baker and 9 other people liked this
I concur
- RAPatton
Yes please.
- Kol Tregaskes
i would be interested to see my post count as well.
- (jeff)isageek
Feed posts and FF posts combined could be called item count and post count could be just FF posts
- DarknessFalls
good idea! :)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
I'd love something like Gmail has that tells you when someone has written a reply before you hit the send button on your own comment. :)
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Jack sez, I r napping, quit typing!
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Shameless, whoring, cute bump ;)
- mjc
Awwww... :)
- Cheryl Jones
Why is it that FriendFeed shows you how many comments you have and how many likes you have but not how many things you've shared?
Voyagerfan5761, Bjorn Stromberg, Pat Hawks and 6 other people liked this
Heck, I'd like to see how many things you've shared, how many likes they got, and how many comments you've accumulated.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva should qualify to get his own new feature once a quarter.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
This is a BIG hole in the report .... much more important than simply tweaking the way comments are counted (although the change is a better reflection of 'reality')... Next release with # items contributed .... please?
- David HC Soul
Yeah, I was gonna say, what about how many likes/comments you've GOTTEN, rather than just given? That's more important than follower count anyway.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yep, that'll be an interesting stat. I think FFholic only really gives you a rough idea how much you're sharing.
- Kol Tregaskes
You'd like to see how effective you are at sharing things that other people like?
- Richard A.
Gadgets: Mintpad Web-Surfing-Camera-Thingie Coming to the US - http://i.gizmodo.com/5182222...
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Last.fm to Charge Subscription Fee for Many International Listeners http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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RT @marshallk: Last.fm to Charge Subscription Fee for Many International Listeners http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Bjorn Stromberg liked this
Last.fm will begin charging for some countries. http://blog.last.fm/2009... Seems unfair.
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Last.fm to Start Charging International Users - http://browneyes.tumblr.com/post...
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i dont wanna pay D:
- Amiram امیرم
Less then two years from CBS's purchase to geographical restrictions being imposed
- Bjorn Stromberg
Last.fm Kills Off Third Party Mobile Apps - http://mashable.com/2009...
Iván Abrego, Bjorn Stromberg and Joe Dawson liked this
Is this a result of the mobile carriers arranging deals with music labels in order to host "music stores" for their phones/handsets? So one oligopoly is colluding with another oligopoly to lock out any "unlicensed" music channel. Great. This is not the change we need.
- Lorin Olsen
Its better than not having Last.fm at all.
- Roberto Bonini
Yeah, I think I'm going to be excising Last.fm from my machine now. If they're turning into such pricks, I don't think I want to tell them what I'm listening to any more.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Roberto: What good is a service you can't use? What I'm seeing is some special treatment for Americans, Brits and Germans, and even then only when they're at home or the office. The rest of the world, having been screwed over by other social music services, now gets a big "fuck you" from Last.fm too.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
There might as well not be a Last.fm for the rest of us any more. So no, it's not better than not having it at all. It's about the same for us either way.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Last.fm to Charge Subscription Fee for Many International Listeners - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Bjorn Stromberg and Bruce Lewis liked this
Among comments (and many insults) in the last.fm blog, this one is very true: Everyone feels cheated. Everyone knows that your sorting algorithms depend on user input, everyone knows that they were helping the whole service whenever they scrobbled, loved or banned tracks. The information people put into the service was used by the algorithms, useful for everyone else in the service, and valuable to last.fm. So now, after years of data input, helping you upgrade your algorithms and fill your databases, after helping make your service more accurate and valuable, you expect us to pay for using it? No. This subscription fee cheats anyone who has ever scrobbled, loved or banned a track on last.fm. You don’t treat your community this way. I’m leaving.
- Flavio
(Image) - http://wytukaze.soup.io/post...
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LOL!
- vijay
Don't try this at home, kids. And remember, treadmills and slippers don't mix.
- Ha3rvey (more more more)
LOL!
- JA Castillo
LMAO
- Bluesun 2600
Looking into a problem with disqus and facebook connect on my site. For some reason there are multiple calls with fbc_receiver=1. tr.im/h9Qz
Bjorn Stromberg liked this
Feature Request: Provide a way to remove everyone from a list (particularly the home list) either on FriendFeed.com or through the API.
Bjorn Stromberg and Kol Tregaskes liked this
Or even a way to remove people individually from lists via the API, since we can get a list of people on a list.
- Mark Trapp
Yep, the option should be there to unsub to all, just add obvious sirens notifying the user what they are about to do. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
BSG at the UN: Wow, That Actually Worked! | Geekdad from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/geekdad...
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When one of the UN's representatives talked about how part of their mandate was to safeguard the human rights of everyone, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, and station, Olmos got a little heated. "You never should've invited me here," he said, before blasting the UN for continuing to use race as a term of separation, of division among peoples. His voice rose, steadily, as if years of social activism was coming to a head on this night. Then, directing his attention to the high schoolers: "Adults will never be able to stop using the word 'race' as a cultural determinant....There is only one race: the human race. SO SAY WE ALL!"
- JA Castillo
from Bookmarklet
So say we all.
- Bjorn Stromberg
Bring Down IE 6: a campaign by .net magazine - http://www.bringdownie6.com/
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"The premise is simple: Internet Explorer 6 is antiquated, doesn’t support key web standards, and should be phased out. This isn’t about being anti-Microsoft, it’s about Microsoft’s lack of development in the browser market. With IE7/8 not available for Windows 2000, IE6 accounts for up to 20% of web usage, primarily via business users. Clients pressure designers to ‘force’ sites to...
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- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Listened to the first 45 minutes of the latest Gillmor Gang with Paul Bucheit. He did a great job, quite a politician. And there were some hints on what's to come in upcoming releases. Of course I have lots of ideas. I don't think the API needs simplification, but I do think the RSS support needs...
Paul Buchheit, Peter Efland, timepilot and 27 other people liked this
...improving. I like the idea that they're going to pull back from providing custom support for all kinds of apps and rely more on working with other sites to get uniform support for Media RSS. I found when I wanted to send a picture or MP3 at FF, I'd have to use the API to get the effect I wanted. Not the way to go. Use the API for big jobs, and let RSS do its job.
- Dave Winer
I also think there could be a driver structure so users could build simple interfaces for all the services. Build out the platform with interactive features. Also the nugget of functionality you're looking for is obvious. I hate to see young guys reinvent the wheel. We've been down this path Paul. How about some two-way conversations about this. I feel like I've been pissin in the wind. I agree with your goals. Same thing I say to the newspapers, open the door and let us in. That's how to win.
- Dave Winer
Let's get a simple spec together that says "This is what FF is looking for in for rich media and thumbs." And let me ping you to tell me the feed updated. There's your super-simple publishing API. Your target user for this should be Marshall Kirkpatrick. A super-talented technical *user*. Learn how he thinks. And a thousand more like him will follow. These are the people you need.
- Dave Winer
Now I'm going to a programmer's dinner in Berkeley where we're hatching up something *evil*. :-)
- Dave Winer
BTW, I thought they all asked great questions, from Scoble to Farber, even Keen. The one thing Leo didn't say that I wished he would was how being a Friend-Of-Ev got you 200K followers and how that was screwing up the ecosystem in Twitter. That has nothing to do with scaling issues. It's just pollution.
- Dave Winer
What is it you want to put into Media RSS that FriendFeed won't consume? They added media:title support when you complained a while back so you can't exactly say you're ignored.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I don't remember -- but I've never been able to push content to FF through feeds as well as I can through the API, so I always end up falling back to the API. My goal isn't to be "listened to" rather to create outrageously fun and satisfying experiences for users. Sometimes being listened to is necessary to do that.
- Dave Winer
Paul was tactful. But who did we really hear from? Laporte and Scoble. That makes sense but weren't a lot of the questions pretty pedestrian after all this time? Keen tried to take some pokes but ended up sounding like he didn't know what FF really did? The same goes for Farber. The one statement that really resonated was that nobody really knows what the conversation is supposed to look like. We still haven't defined what we want this to do.
- Christopher Harley
@Christopher - your line "..nobody really knows what the conversation is supposed to look like" is brilliant, and I agree. The form Vs. function of conversational media has not really been discussed anywhere, let alone played with.
- David Bausola
Months ago I dropped my use of the API because feeds work so well. Try to remember what you couldn't do with feeds before; maybe it works now.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Thanks for the advice. I'm probably pushing it a bit harder than you Bruce.
- Dave Winer
David, right. In this discussion they divided Twitter, FriendFeed, and Facebook into separate services, each with its given strengths, but then tried to figure out how they would all fit together. Why try to make them fit? I listen to Twitter, converse with FriendFeed, and find with Facebook. I don't need them to integrate with each other, I need them each to accept the presence of the...
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- Christopher Harley
And Winer, "...create outrageously fun and satisfying experiences for users." Do it and do it with audio!
- Christopher Harley
Dave, I've got multiple thumbnails per entry with individual rollover titles, geoRSS, and use SUP. I would think if your feeds were pushing it harder than that, then you would remember what it was that didn't work. My users are leaping for joy. If that's what you're after, maybe you should take my advice.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Well Bruce I'm not going to argue with you about it.
- Dave Winer
I don't want you to argue. I want you to be specific. Specific criticisms help make FriendFeed better, which I like. Vague criticisms are just a downer.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Was anyone else surprised that this was Mike Arrington's first time on GG since he took his break and he only said one thing (he asked Paul how quickly Facebook would copy their newest features) on this podcast?
- Mike Doeff
Yeah, Arrington was a nonentity. Surprising given he was a big proponent early on and pushed a lot of users to FF back in March/April 2008. Yet no substantial questions for Paul and nothing to sharpen the other panelist's questions. Can we get a redo?
- Christopher Harley
Christopher, what's of more substance to FriendFeed than the threat of Facebook? I think he chose a good question. I haven't actually listened to the audio yet, but I think it isn't necessary to inject oneself a lot when the interviewee is saying interesting things. Arrington seems a lot more listening-focused since his vacation. It may be time for me to start reading TechCrunch again.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, I made those specific recommendations when I hit the walls. They're in the Friendfeed Feedback room. I don't remember what I said then, I'm working on other stuff now. Thanks.
- Dave Winer
Dave, I'll search in there and comment/like if I haven't already in order to bump them up.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, I have to agree. The one question that Arrington chose to ask was a very relevant one.
- Mike Doeff
Aaron Greenspan: Why I Sued Google (and Won) - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-g...
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Feature request: the ability to find existing FF accounts given the outside service account name.
Voyagerfan5761, Kevin Fox, bnoise and Bjorn Stromberg liked this
I add Twitter feeds as imaginary friends, but I'd rather just add them as a FF friend if they're on here. I've seen the request for telling users if a feed they add that way is already being imported by some user/room. Well, failing that, could we have that search ability? (Although, if you can do that, you may as well slap it into the Imaginary Friend process as well.)
- Edward Zwart
http://friendfeed.com/setting... allows import of Twitter friends, when its working
- Mike Chelen
I wouldn't survive on FriendFeed without the Google IM integration, but an added bonus would be to allow us to track threads we commented on as well.
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Just throwing it out there...
- Justin Korn
running from the camera blog : put the self-timer on 2 seconds, push the button and try to get as far from the camera as I can. - http://runningfromcamera.blogspot.com/
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Iván Abrego, Daan, OnuRC and 155 other people liked this
THIS...IS...EPIC...
- Johnny Worthington
pretty funny. got me to laugh
- Cee Bee
Ha
- RAPatton
Next: running behind camera thief photos
- Jemm
Love it, don't know why but I really do. Simple ideas are the best!
- Toby Graham
This is quality I am so going to try this out when I get a chance
- Joe Dawson
hhahahahaha.....I am probably in there
- Shevonne
fantastic! +1 internets!
- felix
Too bad that would get my bad side - the butt!
- Head Ov Metal
Stop him, he's getting away!
- Pete Delucchi
Two seconds? I'd still be behind the camera. :D
- Steven Perez
Jemm +1
- Juan Pablo González
He doesn't seem to be getting any faster despite all the running.
- ronin
Sometimes showing a smiling face is not everything !!
- Jayavasanthan J
ROFL! This rules! New meme alert!
- rowlikeagirl
I love that these pics date back to October of 2007 and he's still keeping it going. Very cool! Now to take it up a notch and do it NAKED! :)
- John Reynolds
Haha I love this
- Rodfather
John, unless you have more practice than me, there's no way to undress in only 2 seconds, let alone start running!
- Scott of Two Countries
+++Perez. I would knock over the tripod trying to get running fast.
- Anika
I want to try this!
- Chieze Okoye
Outside of my new television, this is the most awesome thing I've seen today.
- Derrick
He had to have someone watching his tripod. I would try this but I fear someone would run the other way with my camera and tripod.
- Janet
Damn. I love the internets. He's got a blog dedicated to this. That's awesome.
- ♥patricia♥
This is fantastic!
- Aaron Draczynski
I'm to fast for any camera, it would be just a flash...
- orionstarr
awesome!
- Gökmen Karasu
best idea EVA!!!!
- Charly
This is hilarious! Great idea and made me smile today!
- Ace
Cool! Those Dutch people have some creative ideas. ;-)
- Rutger Blom
I'm doing this at the earliest possible opportunity.
- Jim Hearts FF
I think some people have way too much spare time on their hands to dream up all this stuff... sounds like fun though.. .LOL
- Ian May
Reminds me of my favorite Shakepeare stage direction: Exeunt, pursued by a bear
- Ginger Makela Riker
PRICELESS...
- Kenneth Younger
This is awesome.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Unfortunately, if I tried this in my neighborhood, I would have NO CAMERA. I think I need a partner to make this work...
- Paula W
Quite awesome, I'm waiting for the falling over face first photo.
- Andrew Trinh
Totally love it!
- Internet's Tad
I've seen these before and thought it was hilarious. This seems like something that Tad would really get into... except he'd make me take the picture while he's running... of course then I wouldn't tell him when 2 seconds was up (and he'd just keep running, I think... now THAT would be funny).
- Her Lindsay-ness
would be fun to try it backwards esp if one falls down on occasion
- tarafireball
Awesome..
- Moses Kpetigo
Cool concept. And Dutch! Hurray for the Dutch! I thought I recognized my city (Rotterdam).
- TobiasVerhoog.com
FLICKER SUCKS!!! - http://over40andfeelingfine.blogspot.com/2009...
Devlin Dunsmore, Louis Gray, Gary H and 50 other people liked this
"I just deleted my account with Flickr because they censored my protest-art (shown here). They claimed I was harassing and abusing other members by having it posted. My protest-art has the words "Summertownsun sucks". I put this artwork up in protest of Summertownsun complaining that i was infringing on their copyrighted work. They said I was posting images that they own. So flickr removed the images. But the images are actually in the public domain. So I protested Summertownsun's actions by creating a piece of artwork and posting it on Flickr. Then Flickr, in all its controlling, tightwad glory, removed that image too, and sent me an email which said, ""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Flickr seem to take stuff down if there is a protest, rather than review the situation and see whether it needs to be taken down or not. It seems like a case of the person at Flickr who's job it is to review this stuff is lazy, and isn't doing their job properly.
- Chris Nixon
Yeah, Flickr really sucks on that. But I tried the same. What should I do? Everything works with Flickr. Mobile, Social Tools, everything. Picasa might be the only competition, but with only 1 GB for Free and only 10GB for 20 Bucks... no way. If there was a plan like Flickr for $25 unlimited photos and bandwith, I would switch.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Wonder if I should move to Zooomr.
- Parth Awasthi
For one moment there I thought you had deleted your account but then saw the quotes.
- Rob Brammeld
yeah, this didn't happen to me, but I posted the same image as dazzlecat so we'll see if they try and censor me next. http://thomashawk.com/2009...
- Thomas Hawk
Usual problem. If they are seen to use brains and check the content. Rather than just act in dmcas they risk safe harbour.
- Phill Price
Phill, even there the answer is simple, mark the photo private. Send the user a note. Give them an opportunity to counter, look at the evidence and make a decision. At least in the second instance though it seems like the photo is not the issue from Flickr's message but that they feel that saying a company sucks = harassment.
- Thomas Hawk
...does anyone know if there has been a specific change in TOS from before the infrastructure changes at yahoo? or are they just going buck wild?
- Carlos Ayala
So Summertownsun & Flickr SUCKS!
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
You're right TH - it's something they've done before with unsafe stuff so I don't see why not
- Phill Price
Flickr is OUTTA CONTROL... damn! They really are managed by a bunch of "Yahoo!s"
- Susan Beebe
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
You have to pay for Photobucket. Or they owe me 3 years worth of pro account.
- Anika
So if Flickr sucks... where is the best way to go? what is your favorite?
- Peter Efland
Sumertownsun has responded to this post on my blog. http://thomashawk.com/2009...
- Thomas Hawk
@phefland there is no more nice place -- Flickr is the nasty but virtually free... and if you pay, it won't help you avoid any nasty action on you :)
- A.T.
I could get behind Flickr's Nazi practices, if they gave you an opportunity to at least retrieve your stuff before they killed your account. "You are in violation, this account has had public viewing disabled, and will be destroyed in 72 hours."
- Matthew DeVries
It might not be about the sucks comment, but possibly more the 'Rat Bastards' one. I still don't agree with the censoring, just not sure it is about the sucks comment.
- Travis Koger
maybe Travis. I guess I think that Flickr also ought to allow the phrase "rat bastard," and other similar terms.
- Thomas Hawk
My biggest gripe about their censoring is that it is pick and choose for them. They will gladly allow a popular member to break the TOS, but kill off others that might not be so popular... in their eyes. Sheharazade (??) is a perfect example. Saying that some of her pictures were not her own was a joke when they clearly allow more popular... read more 'public' members... to have photos by other photographers in their stream. Moving goal posts comes to mind.
- Travis Koger
I hope Flickr is listening... I just got a pro account, mainly because it works with everything (as mentioned above). Have folks tried Picassa?
- Jason
I've been putting off buying a Flickr Pro account because for me I haven't really noticed the benefits of being on it. The more of this that goes on, the less I want to give them my money.
- Kenton
Does the Flickr policy mention image content standards?
- Douglas Hopkins
This is part of the problem Douglas, Flickr's standards are very vague and not applied uniformly. A while back Stewart Butterfield said that an image of mine ought to be deleted because posting screengrabs "was not what flickr was about." And yet at the time I pointed out that Cal Henderson's (who works for flickr) account was full of WOW screengrabs. Inconsistencies abound with Flickr's censorship. If they are going to enforce content policies they ought to be universal.
- Thomas Hawk
Similary a few weeks ago Flickr without warning deleted Shéhérazade's account because they said she had photos in her stream not taken by her (she was the model in the photos and said she had permission) yet Flickr's Community Manager Heather Champ has photos in her stream not taken by her. Double standards and uneven application of censorship sucks.
- Thomas Hawk
Interesting sidenote. CoolIris (PicLens) completely bypasses the sign in requirement for 'borderline' content.
- Charlie Anzman
what do you mean Charlie? Are you saying that you can see restricted 18+ content with CoolIris without logging into Flickr?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - my first thought was you deleted your account. /Restarting heart now.
- Russellreno
nah, I don't think I'd ever delete my own account and I'd be devastated if Flickr ever did.
- Thomas Hawk
Techdirt's take here: http://www.techdirt.com/article...
- Thomas Hawk
You can post them in RedGage.com
- JG Suarez
Some pictures from the Photography law protest at Scotland Yard London. Pictures from Russ Anderson / http://twitter.com/russ_an...
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Load more here from Andy Whitehead - http://www.facebook.com/album... / http://twitter.com/adventu...
- Simon Wicks
11am today :)
- Simon Wicks
I'd like to have gone to this!
- Kol Tregaskes
I wish I was there!!!
- Mel Buckpitt
Seriously, they should fire up Microsoft's Photosynth and load all the pictures into it...
- Johnny Worthington
thats a good idea Johnny, lots on flickr now too - http://flickr.com/search...
- Simon Wicks
The image of the kid atop his dad's shoulder shooting the sense is priceless!
- JA Castillo
There is nothing in the mainstream media about this...
- Moses Kpetigo
It is now illegal in the UK to photograph police officers, under the guise of combating terrorism. I just hope that it helps to make people realise we're all on a slippery slope to 1984. It does nothing to combat terrorism, everything to protect a police state from scrutiny.
Kreg Steppe, Bryan Villarin, imabonehead and 27 other people liked this
The protest was right outside my office, but im so damn busy i couldnt go! :(
- Simon Wicks
The UK is waaay worse than the US on matters of civil liberty (not to imply the US is very good). I could not fathom living in a society that was literally always under surveillance without any right to surveil my surveyors.
- Mattie Kenny
One of my work friends went over, took some pics, i put them here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Simon Wicks
Nice pics Simon, would have gone if I'd known! It may be naive but I am hoping this may help wake a few people up to the robbing of rights going on, as I can't even think of a plausible excuse for the law here!
- Matt Harwood
Good lord, that's Putin creepy right there.
- Matthew DeVries
Don't take pictures of those who terrorize people... in order to combat terrorism.
- Gregor Morrill
This is bad, bad news! Where can I move to live so I can photograph without worry? Certainly not here. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It's like Europe has a rule that is has to be some % less free than the US. With the insanity of the Patriot Act, Dept of Homeland security, the US became (just a number out of my ass) 40% less free in it's 2001 over-correction. Europe, which ranged from 5-30% less free than the US pre-Patriot Act had to make a compensitory adjustment keep that margin. "We can't be freer than the US, that just won't do". So the UK, which was 10% less free than the US pre-Patriot Act, is now 50% less free than the US was
- Matthew DeVries
Strange that photography becomes a terrorist act precisely when they're installing CCTV cameras everywhere.
- Mr. Gunn
Cornify - Unicorns & Rainbows On-Demand - http://www.cornify.com/
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Made me LOL in my cubicle...they all think I'm crazy here anyway.
- Fleagle
I'm still clicking!
- Fee501st
Unrelated (but similar, kinda). Prob already seen this: http://bacolicio.us/
- Amy
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