"In a country in the grips of evil, in a police state where every move is being watched, in a world where justice and honor have been subverted, a group of men hidden inside the highest reaches of power decide to take action. Tom Cruise stars in the suspense film, VALKYRIE," - Dave Winer
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I'm imagining this with a nice Don La Fontaine voice over. - Mark Bean
"Funny, I first saw your Tweet on FriendFeed. I think you're missing the point of FriendFeed, but that's OK. Out of the 4,600 I'm following on FriendFeed you're on my top 10 list for most interesting. When I see you later in the month we'll talk about why you have FriendFeed wrong.
Oh, and FriendFeed will never kill either Twitter or Facebook. If I ever said that I was wrong to say that. I see FF as an add-on to Twitter now." - Robert Scoble
FF is just a complier. Twitter is where you get info firsthand. - Bob Blunk
Bob, I see a lot on here first. Lots of tweets from twitterers I don't yet follow. It's easier here to find interesting folk to follow. - Nicola Quinn
Nicola: I could not agree more, but FF still just mostly complies information that people enter on other sites. - Bob Blunk
LOL I agree w/ Nicola, and it begs the question is it even necessary to follow then? I suppose here is where you could say twittrt & ff comepete w/ eachother$ - sofarsoshawn
FF is more conversational; Twitter is essentially a multicast/broadcast tool. I find myself commenting/replying here, but posting new things of my own to Twitter (knowing they'll be picked up by FF). - John
John: just the opposite for me. i post to ff knowing it will go to twitter. ff is my dashboard at this point. - Brendten Eickstaedt
I'm the other way around due to twitter 140 char limit. - thomasrdotorg
yep. love that ff is smart enough to put an ff.im in the post 2 so that ur entire post is available to twitterers 2 - Brendten Eickstaedt
I find it kind of odd that Tim was responding to Robert's comments on Backtype, but didn't want to see "friendfeed with comments"... - anna
Mostly but not always Bob. I posted a message here which started a discussion that was only on here. - Nicola Quinn
sofarsoshawn - Yes I still think it's necessary to follow people. I like to chat to people on Twitter I've found here. - Nicola Quinn
John, yes FF is more conversational but I like the randomness of Twitter too. - Nicola Quinn
Twitter is updates, fun and crazy, FF is the tool used to update all those applications like itself, and FF is information, updates, interesting, conversations.. - Brendon Wadey
Scoble: Interestingly, I've the opposite view, and see Twitter as more of an add-on to FF. I read tweets from those I follow on FF, which significantly cuts the number of dupes I see. FF's real-time feed makes running an app like Twitterrific unnecessary. I haven't noticed a significant lag time between a tweet arriving in Twitter vs. FF real-time. - Lynn Garris
Does anyone really believe this? Travel to developing countries for an adjusted perspective - Jeff McNeill
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Number of books on the Amazon Kindle (total): 15,000. Number of books published in the United States alone, per year: 172,000. It's not going to happen in five years. - Mark Trapp
he addresses that in the last paragraph - the prognosis if for USA only. - Bora Zivkovic
really interesting and look fwd to the next column; to me it seems that we're in online land grab territory and in each market segment it's key to grab as much of the online market as possible - read follow google - and then use a dominant position to milk (probably advertising) it - Bob Robot
Technology is moving forward at a very fast exponential rate. By the mid 2010s, much media will be in digital form. The upcoming 2010-2019 decade will usher in so many innovations that if a social media observer native to 2008 were able to jump forward to 2019, he or she would quickly get lost. The 2010s decade will take us to a technological place that we would find incomprehensible by late 2008 standards. We will make approximately 45 years of innovation (by 2008 standards) between 2010 and 2019. - J. D. Ebberly
it is already intangible ... just on paper - Gregory Lent
The medium changes the message. Writing, discourse, communications are changing in ways we have yet to anticipate. - Phil Boiarski
Great post by Steve. Mona: books won't become obsolete, but they will become secondary. Think of books as printouts from primary digital documents. If you want a hardcopy book, order a printout. Most people will prefer the digital versions of texts -- that's my bet. - Sean McBride
I am grapping with the plus-es and minus-es of this daily. Love my iPod, but still love my vinyl. Different experience, & fear loss of any experience. - Martha
I think in five years we might have ebook readers that are actually usable -- but it takes more than five years to change peoples' habits. - Deborah Fitchett
This is an eventuality but the time frame is a bit soon. We basically have to wait for all the people used to "dead tree" media to die. So give it 20-30 years. - Jason Kaneshiro
I know a man in his early 60's, who has a circle of several dozen friends. Most of them use computers maybe twice a week. None (that I know of) own Kindles or any other ebook device. They've all got 10-20 years left in them. None have any reason to go digital. I know they're not isolated cases. - Brent Newhall
Look how quickly digital photography took over film. Film is now a niche and it happened because the camera tech matured so quickly. We need superior products to replace physical media and so far it hasn't quite happened. - Andrew Smith
i know some kids in their 20's, who have a circle of several dozen friends. most of them use computers maybe twice a week. none that i know of own kindles or any other ebook device. they've all got 50-60 years left in them. none have any reason to go digital. i know they're not isolated cases. - Gregory Lent
Limitations can cause creative condensation of communication. - Phil Boiarski
To me Twitter is the "news ticker", and Friendfeed is more interactive. While both can do the other's job, each one is suited mainly toward those roles. - David Bisset (sn)
@phil - that's both true and a familiar field of discourse in the Visual Arts - I'm reminded of Matisse affixing charcoal to a long stick to get his "hand" out if his drawing. I'm fascinated by these self-imposed limitations - anyone know of others? - Marko Bon
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I think 140 characters is a great filter. - Nicola Quinn
I also find the Like function on FF useful to squirrel things away in your Comments/Likes for later perusal. - Nicola Quinn
Robert's response explains why I find myself spending more time on friendfeed now. - Nation Hahn
Marko, the film "The Five Obstructions" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) is an interesting take on the idea. Lars Von Trier forces Jorgen Leth to re-make a short film five different times, each with a different "obstruction" or imposed limitation. In the first example, Von Trier forces Leth to remake the film, but the limitation is that each shot can be no more than 12 frames (1/2 second) long. In essence, Von Trier forces a "twitterization" of the original. ;-) - Karim
Also, Frank Herbert's "Destination: Void" series of sci-fi novels starts off with a series of space missions that end in disaster. SPOILER ALERT: one of the missions eventually figures out that the disasters are actually *intentional,* the idea being that the experiment can only succeed if the crew figures out how to avert disaster. It is only through overcoming the *intentional* limitation that they go on to achieve greatness... - Karim
sometimes you do need more than 140 chars, but the limit does make the writing more concise and limited to usually one thought which is a good thing - Todd Dewell
So is FriendFeed an aggregator with community features or a community that aggregates content? :) - Bwana
Bwana, I think people start out using it as the former but are more satisfied with the service when they use it as the latter. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
+1 Tina, It is much easier to track a conversation on ff - even given search and hashtags on twitter - Alistair
Every time this pops up, I think the person being responded to @negrophobe. - Anika Malone
I have been able to find great info from people posting short blurbs and a link on Twitter.I think of Twitter as a dictionary and FriendFeed as an encyclopedia. - Dana Fosburgh
Seems like most of them boil down to "get people to work harder, for longer, for the same amount of money or less." Not so much an IDEA as it is wish fulfillment. I mean, I think everyone knows if we forced old people to work and didn't give them health care, we'd save money. It's just not all that terribly practical, in that old people often CAN'T work (at least as productively as younger people) and sometimes they simply need health care. - Lon Harris
