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- Bleu Caldwell
Mac rumors seems to be keeping up the best so far
- Michael
A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29.
- Shane Harwood
It's weird when we're critical of a company frequently improving their products without a large increase in price. Seems backwards, but that's what we want.
- Jonathan Langdale
29$ thats sweet, just got 10.5 and was planning on skipping snow
- detorn
3.0 might be with the new hardware and that still needs FCC approval.
- Michel
Ben, I'll pay you $5 if they release it today. Not going to happen. They'll wait till the new iPhone comes out.
- Ryan
Find My iPhone should be available as a one-off paid service rather than just part of MobileMe. If I really lose my phone I might be prepared to pay a small fee to wipe it remotely.
- bobrudge
I thought video guy was trying to get his medication :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
KShep, I've had the 3.0 beta and watching the Pre unbox almost made me cry. Why isn't Apple on the ball like that?
- iluvgimp
#Michel the new iPhone may already have approval. There's a misconception that you have to wait to announce to keep it secret.
- Ryan
@bobrudge I totally agree. I'm not paying $129 for it every year just for that feature. Hell, its worth the price of a new phone :P
- Michel
But how many times have they kept it a secret?
- Michel
I'm thinking Doom, in real-life for the turn-by-turn. :-)
- Jesse Stay
there is a great Leo quote for the keynote, "I was hoping there would be news by now."
- detorn
Even the video camera & editing isn't going to bring this back... no tethering or MMS support from AT&T for "awhile" at least really sinks this ship.
- iluvgimp
I agree Ken - I'm starting to dose --- I wish Jonathan -- an Apple Tablet PC would be cool
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Apple tablet is not happening now. Not enough rumors. I say.
- Michel
Michael - I hope you're wrong. I want the Apple tablet more than a new iPhone. :(
- Johnny
question, isn't using an apple product for medical purposes against the apple TOS?
- detorn
This is becoming a waste of time... will they just get on with it.
- Bas Heetebrij
This is going to be huge to tap into the healthcare application market
- Jonathan Langdale
This is either a great stall -- or they have nothing to announce that is new
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's funny because before the uStream guy fixed the audio, all I could say on Twitter was: "Oh! Something cool just happened. Dunno what though..."
- Michel
Why are they replaying the March 3.0 Preview event video?
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, It is a developers conference - rumors be damned
- PXLated
You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs
- Jackson Pollock
PXL, but they've said all of this already
- detorn
there isn't a big history of "one more thing" at WWDC. And never yet without Steve
- Jackson Pollock
yeah... iphone is not for reading iphone... is there something else coming?
- Bas Heetebrij
As a student. I would love the textbook thing. It's great for me, as a student. Who has his iPhone in class most of the time (For educational purposes!)
- Michel
Is this just what we should start to expect from post-Jobsian Apple?
- Ken Sheppardson
You don't get it if you want a new phone. The iphone itself is merely a way to communicate and interact with the iphone OS. The whole point of the iPhone design is that it's as little hardware design as possible.
- Jackson Pollock
We've lost the panel.. talking about Tom-Tom :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Where is the iTouch news... where is the background processing...
- Jonathan Langdale
I don't know about you guys but I would rather hear the audio feed mostly, not the commentary
- Robb McMahan
@Michael Mooney: That's the iPod Touch. @Jon Please dont call it the iTouch.
- Michel
doesn't navigation need background processes?
- Bas Heetebrij
Ah... Tom-Tom for iPhone. Reminds me... I used to run Tom Tom on my Treo 755p. I wonder if Pre will have it...
- Ken Sheppardson
I've been waiting on the turn by turn since this thing came out! sweet!
- Bryan Brooks
C'mon guys, would you guys PLEASE hush and let us hear the official feed! Comment after it's over like they would on CNN.
- Robb McMahan
background processing is such a heap of mess. let's not forget that the primary market for this phone is mere mortals who don't know about memory and process load and everything else. They'll avoid it if they can
- Jackson Pollock
@Robb I want to hear the commentary from the panel one what's going on - otherwise I'd just watch the stream. I want opinions on what's going on.
- bobrudge
So what's with the hardware for TomTom? What is it actually used for?
- Michel
@Robb first comment on this tread has the link
- detorn
I'm wondering if BestBuy will let me return the MacBook Pro 15" I bought 3 weeks ago and get one of the new ones. Did they say when they would be available?
- Jesse Stay
If Jobs died tomorrow, the company wouldn't change much at all. It's the most fine-oiled machine in the technology industry. Jobs has spent the last 12 years filling the board and the senior positions with people of his own liking. Ive, Forstall, Serlet, Cook, they're all handpicked by Jobs and have been doing their job for the last 10 years.
- Jackson Pollock
Me too Lindsay. Original iPhone lacked too many features *I* needed. New version looks much better
- David Wright
from twhirl
Jackson: This event would indicate otherwise.
- Ken Sheppardson
new macs today, bestbuy or apple should let you exchange within 30 days
- detorn
This event is pretty identical to last year's
- Jackson Pollock
I'm really happy with my 2007 MBP. Seriously, for me, it's brand new.
- Michel
I have iTouch and I LOVE using Skype and Fringe. I don't like paying cell fees. I only want GPS in iTouch
- Jonathan Langdale
It's a developer conference. For software developers. They're not engineers and industrial designers, they're computer scientists who are looking to make money from developing their applications on this platform
- Jackson Pollock
I almost bought the new MBP when they first came about, but I got another 15 MBP prev gen for FW800
- Jonathan Langdale
Apple is not attending Macworld any longer, they're not really doing press conferences to release products anymore, they're changing how they do things, not what they do.
- Jackson Pollock
Apparently the market doesn't realize this is a "developer conference"
- Ken Sheppardson
Lol. Wave iPhone over stuff to buy. Look at that money go!
- Michel
Apple shares, up nearly 70% in 2009, have slid during the presentation, recently trading at $140.94, down 3.8% on the day. -- WSJ
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Apple stock has been down since market open, not because of today's announcements.
- Pete Finlay
Oops, forgot it is an Apple feed... My "touch" is an htc Touch Pro :red:
- David Wright
from twhirl
The stock has barely moved during the keynote.
- Pete Finlay
@ Michael/Thobias/Adam They've been having some power issues today. Outages and such.
- Justin
The stock always drops during the keynotes anyway and then rises dramatically after wards.
- Michel
Is there going to be a new API to search for Gillmore Gang videos/drama?
- Jonathan Langdale
Ken: the fanboys who put hope in every little detail they can find. The market is based on salesfigures and quarterly results. If there is no iPhone announcement today, it'll come later and the stock will stay the same.
- Jackson Pollock
So how do you actually start the car on Zipcar? Can it be done through the iPhone?
- Michel
think they implied the key was in the car
- detorn
Michel I believe he said you just push a key icon and it starts
- Jesse Stay
ZipCar website crashed.... not ready for the WWDC response.
- Jerry Schuman
Hah... Leo's view of the stream clips off the "Sponsored by DylanCombs.tv" from the top of the image
- Ken Sheppardson
This is not an entertainment event. It is a public press conference. As much as you would like it to be, Apple does not. They don't broadcast it on the web, they don't do them as often as they used to, they're not even done by Steve Jobs any longer.
- Jackson Pollock
Oh, you unlock it via the app, but I don't see why they couldn't enable you to start it from the app as well
- Jesse Stay
Does this raise security issues? (the Zipcar app). Stealing can become a lot easier.
- Michel
Sure would be nice if Leo could get twit.am back up. I can't listen via my computer (I'm at work and my headphones won't reach to the computer).
- Adam Jenkins
Jaskson: You're making excuses. The tech community is watching this with expectations.
- Ken Sheppardson
Creating an app for your own car wouldn't be that difficult - you'd just need a bluetooth kit the iphone can talk to
- Jesse Stay
And since the jailbreak can insert daemons to change the functionality of apps, it might cause a lot of issues.
- Michel
Perhaps it's finally time for the genius in the room, Ive
- Jackson Pollock
LOL at Line6 accessory for iPhone. I mean, this is solution-without-a-problem territory. If you have an electric guitar, you can handle another small piece of gear.
- G. Sigh
I don't see them revamping the design that much. Ive is perfecting it still
- Jackson Pollock
2.1x faster to launch Messages, 2.4x to load SimCity, 3.6x faster to load an Excel attachment, 2.9x faster to load a large website. - MacRumors
- Michel
If they want me to upgrade from my iPhone 3G I hope they've got more than some speed bumps (not important to me in a phone) and camera features and spec I had on my Sony 4 years ago.
- bobrudge
can we have skype video chat on iphone now?
- Alfredo
Yep, I totally missed the actual announcement when TWiT Live/BitGrav refreshed on me automatically. That sucks. Anyway, can you make phone calls on the new phone?
- WazNeeni
there's a lot of geek love in that room :)
- zephyrlily
Leo doesn't think Tablet it a big market? wow.. convergence between cell phone and computers?
- Johnny
Will I be able to upgrade from the 3G? If not, I'm okay with that.
- Ryan
apple announces they now OWN the phone market - stock moves -2.84
- michael sean wright
Leo didn't think the Intel switch was a good move, Leo didn't have any confidence in the iPhone between launch and release, bla bla bla
- Jackson Pollock
$99 is a great price, I'm just not so keen on having to shell out $1,000 a year on a phone plan.
- Eoghann Irving
Ouch! Entry level 13" MBP $1595 in Germany :(
- David Wright
from twhirl
But 17" down to "only" $3192 from $3500 earlier today
- David Wright
from twhirl
you've had a 13.3'' tho, it's called the Macbook or Macbook Air
- Jackson Pollock
I still don't understand how you buy an iPhone on 17th with a contract or not.
- Jonathan Langdale
Interestingly the small print for the phone prices reads "existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."
- Steve Brady
i wonder when the uk site will get updated, O2 (the carrier) and apples site still normal for me
- Charles Greig
So *upgrading* (which usually means at the 18 month point??) is 200 more??
- Steve Brady
No, I mean what does "cheap" mean? $9/mo? $19?
- Ken Sheppardson
i think (not sure) $79 a month is the lowest
- detorn
it's like $400 bucks with 2 year contract, and $100 a month for a plan with unlimited data here
- Jackson Pollock
If I'm honest, I think the Pre has problems in competing on features. I think the N97 from Nokia is closest and better in some aspects.
- Bas Heetebrij
Ok, its on the uk apple site now but no prices that i can see :(
- Charles Greig
Leo, you could take questions/comments from the chats in lieu of calls...
- Denise Howell
Why would AT&T charge more for upgrading from iPhone 3G?
- Tom Landini
It has to be the N97 from Nokia. It has a 5mp camera and It is able to record 16:9 video
- Kashif Khan
AT&T are nuts about the upgrading... taking me forever to get the subsidy
- detorn
yeah, $99 is not really the actual price is it. I mean, the "$199" iPhone was close to 600EUR if you took the $2/month for 2 year contract with no calls/texts/data plan. If you take any other contract (here in Finland, it's capped at 100MB/month regardless of plan), you end up paying a lot more.
- Andy Patel
Upgrade pricing absolutely stinks.. $499 for existing iPhone 3G customers for the 32 gig phone. How much more can AT&T alienate existing customers? I also love how they make it sound liek they're doing me a favor 'because you're a valued customer'
- Lon Seidman
So no word about iTouch, this sucks for people that don't want a month plan.
- Jonathan Langdale
I'm looking at the new macbook pro prices and the 17" is now $2499. I think that is a lower new price.
- Pete Finlay
iPod Touch news is usually announced in September so it's ready for the holidays.
- Mister IQ
Leo, you must do a MacBreak Weekly with Andy!
- Pete Finlay
rogers hasnt either, but after what happened with iphone 3g last year, i expect 3 year contract and a lackluster expensive plan.
- mark pompeo
the interesting thing about the voice commands, i suggested that to apple over a year ago though the contact us section, altough i suggest this for the ipod specifically. i expect just a coincidence. they had to add that, almost every phone has voice commands
- mark pompeo
I was really hoping for background apps, and front facing video. Still, seeing all the other stuff makes this a must have device. I am just worried about getting shafted by AT&T in my attempt to get upgraded.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Sorry Leo, it was a good show...although lost in the ethers...
- Bill Frater
thanks for the coverage though leo, we salute you for your efforts
- mark pompeo
Yep, great coverage Leo. You have a lot to answer for... I'd refused to Web 2.0, then I found TWiT, now I'm on Twitter, FB and FF, in one weekend! :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
I'm catching up on TWiT network, must be over 60 hours in the last couple of weeks! NOTE: Don't listen to 8 hours of Security Now back to back! Ended up dreaming I was decrypting files, manually in my sleep! :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
There is just something soothing about Leo's voice and the TWiT gang are usually hilarious
- David Wright
from twhirl
did we hear anything about a2dp for the 3G? for the 3GS?
- Alan Kroeper
alan, i wasn't watching too closely, but i don't see anything in this chat mentioning it - however there's lots of bluetooth stuff in the 3.0sdk so it might be in there... there's more news to come over the next couple days
- Chris Heath
Most people seemed to have liked it, but I wasn't that crazy about it. I think it was just too happy for me -- and I'm so tired of the shipper stuff. I do think this was a calm before the storm though. Back to the doom and gloom! :)
- Bleu Caldwell
I acctually went Arghhh out load at all the skipping forwards and backwards in time :)
- Simon Wicks
John, I was also confused about if it was a rerun! I TiVo'd all the way up to the ... you know, big thing they see briefly in the forrest.
- Veronica
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