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@gregkunz nope, FriendFeed doesn't do SMS. It does do Twitter, though, which does SMS.
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enjoying friendfeed but doesn't synch on the blackberry for me
- PaulJohnson
So, philosophically, should FF do SMS/IM? I'm torn.
- Peter Kahle
No, it should not do SMS. Twitter is a chatter/notifier, so SMS makes sense. FF is an aggegator and is also too noisy to make built-in notifications useful.
- Carter Rabasa
i agree with Carter. FF != Twitter. Carter is exaclty right IMO.
- acedanger
from twhirl
I guess that's all the more reason for a unified friend infrastructure. I want to be friends with the same people on twitter (where I get my IM fix) and FF. But right now, it's all over the place. And when someone joins FF, it'd be nice if I auto-friend them if I'm their friend on twitter (or jaiku, or pownce, etc.)
- Peter Kahle
Solution: Twitter's API lets you retrieve your friends/followers. If FF's API allowed creation of imaginary friends programmatically, voila! Instant import, and without the hassle of making your friends sign-up!
- Carter Rabasa
I love that Twitter is like the universal SMS api for webapps. If only it worked all the time :)
- Alex Gawley
@Carter So, that leads to another question. What happens when an imaginary friend signs up to FF? I'll have to look at the two APIs when I get a chance, see if there's a way to sync the two, and what's missing.
- Peter Kahle
they need UI for the iPhone
- Dave Hodson
@carter and @peter kahle that sounds a bit like how Socialthing imports everything from everyone using all your services. It's more of an aggregator, and is increasingly annoying. I like the filter of just following the people that I say I want to follow and no one else, regardless of if I'm friends with them elsewhere. Just because a person's my Pownce friend doesn't mean I want them to be my Twitter buddy! I use different services for different things (or personalities, lol).
- Jon Gosier
@jon Agreed, but it could be optional for those that want to. I think that's the secret sauce that FF is perfecting, the ability to give you only what you want (think of the granulatity of their hide feature)
- Carter Rabasa
Adobe AIR Desktop App For FriendFeed Coming - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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"We just heard that Howard/Baines will be releasing an Adobe AIR application for FriendFeed in the next week or so. So far all we have is the screen shot and a confirmation from Baines that his team is working on it. The application will be called Alert Thingy." I like the name :)
- Bret Taylor
Now if someone could just combine a FF / Twitter Adobe AIR app -- making sure that tweets weren't duplicated -- that'd be super! Otherwise, it's annoying to feel compelled to run both (and no, I cannot convince all my friends on Twitter to sign up for FF, nor do I feel like creating Imaginary Friends for all of them).
- Adam Lasnik
Thing is, I love the simple web-based FF interface. Too slick to make the switch. FF + Fluid + Fluid plug-ins = winner
- Aviv
I don't feel the need to abandon the FF interface. In fact, I see myself doing other activities from within FF - http://ffapps.com/tabs/
- Aviv
Can't wait for this! It's going to be awesome.
- Brandon Titus
Its about frackin' time. What took so long? :)
- Tony Hung
Yes! My continuous partial attention does a little jig!
- Ashton
I don't like the msgs popping up...
- terababy
I sure hope it runs better then TWIRL
- Noah David Simon
@Noah: Better than twhirl? I've never had issues with it.
- Voyagerfan5761
Twirl has not has issues, it just happens to rely on the twitter api being up, which is the unreliable part. As long as the FF API can keep up with demand an Adobe Air app that works as good as twirl would be sweet.
- Christian Burns
I'll wait for a non AIR app thank you :)
- Steven Hodson
An iGoogle gadget would do me fine :))
- ceebee
THX 4 invitatiojn- guess my computerallergy holds me away from all this kind of internet friendship thing. Somehow too much letters...u know what I mean? Maybe it takes some time to come into that stuff. Virtual??? Prefer real air, trees and touch...talk soon NOAH.
- Natascha Engelmann
Ceberius: http://www.google.com/ig...
- Philipp Lenssen
@Philipp : oh wow! thanks!
- ceebee
I'll be happy once Adobe AIR comes out for Linux.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
@possible248 labs.adobe.com/downloads/air_linux.html btw ive been running adobe air through wine for over a month here is how you install it with wine www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/03/howto-adobe-air-and-xdrive-desktop-lite.html
- Kyle Weller
@defcon: I'll bet he'll like that link. I pointed it out over Twitter, but you never know; twhirl supposedly has some issues on Linux platforms that aren't fixed yet. Wine might take care of the problems. And BTW, links are automatically, er, linked if you start them off with http://
- Voyagerfan5761
I much prefer my online services to stay in browser windows - it's too confusing for my poor british brain otherwise!
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
@Slippy: I used to think that about Twitter, until I discovered twhirl... But don't let me influence your decision. ;-)
- Voyagerfan5761
Just in case anyone wanted an updated screen shot to watch while they are waiting - http://screencast.com/t... (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
@Jeremy: Sweet program! At least, the looks are good and it appears to have all the functionality of the site. I won't pry for a release date. :-)
- Voyagerfan5761
Just got drag and drop image uploading on share... getting real close!! (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
You coders just constantly amaze me with your ability to whip this stuff up!
- Phil Ashman
can't wait to see the final product - you don't need some more beta testers by any chance, Jeremy? :)
- Frederic
@Frederic: I considered asking, but figured the answer was obvious. @Jeremy: So, do you? :D
- Voyagerfan5761
Those lucky enough to be at the adobe AIR Tour - London yesterday would have seen a demo of the app plus a demo of a couple of bugs we need to fix :). The launch is currently being held up by thawte who we are waiting on to issue our digital certificate! Once that is done we are good to go. Thanks for all the offers, we have enough beta testers on windows and mac for now, but would be interested in anyone running AIR on linux! (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
...and if you want to follow me and the kinds of apps we build then please subscribe to me or follow me on twitter (jeremybaines) (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
@Jeremy: Will all comments posted via Alert Thingy have that tagline? Oh, and I believe @possible248 on Twitter (and here) is running AIR on Linux.
- Voyagerfan5761
@Voyagerfan5761 yes they will. We think it's ok to ask for a bit of PR if we are giving you an app free. What do you think? It would be nice if there was a proper place to put the "via...." link, like on twitter, but the guys at FriendFeed have not provided anything like that for us yet! Bret.. are you listening??? (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
I would prefer to have the "via Alert Thingy"-tagline independent from the comment itself. I second that request.
- sebmos
Ok that is 2 of us - Is that enough to change the API Bret? How many votes do I need? :)
- Jeremy Baines
Of course, some of us might feel that reading a few words of advertising along with each comment is, you know, not exciting.
- j1m
Adding the source to entries and comments from the API makes a lot of sense. I will think about it and take a look at what Twitter does, and come back with something.
- Bret Taylor
@Jeremy - would be happy to try it out on Linux :)
- Frederic
I'm so ready for this app, it hurts
- Bwana ☠
@bret How are you getting along with the beta we sent you yesterday? (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
WANT. drool...
- Phil G
I seriously seriously want this! but agree w/Adam - combo app would ROCK
- Sarah Perez
Regarding the attribution for comments, how about adding a conditional "from %APPNAME%" tag wrapped in <small> tags after the name? It would be displayed only if there was a valid source for that comment. Thumbs-up? -down?
- Voyagerfan5761
Get your copy of v1.0 - http://alertthingy.com/ (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
Its up now :) (via Alert Thingy)
- Tony Hung
Nice. I have it up and running (via Alert Thingy)
- Bwana ☠
If you like it so far so us your digg love - http://digg.com/softwar... (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
sounds cool
- Shandiz
Just installed! Could do with customizable opacity, but otherwise it's just figuring out how to use it right now. w00t! (And making Enter save the comment...) (via Alert Thingy)
- Voyagerfan5761
Is there a central location for feedback/suggestions? (via Alert Thingy)
- Bwana ☠
you can send us email - help@alertthingy.com (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
Yeah, seriously way too transparent with no settings control. Other than that looks great.
- Marston Alfred
Shameless blog comment fishing: http://voyagerfan5761.blogspot.com/2008... I figured this was an appropriate venue for that link. :-)
- Voyagerfan5761
preeeeeeetty good (via Alert Thingy)
- zeroinfluencer
I like it! (via Alert Thingy)
- Tibor Paulsch
AT works okay but needs user prefs editable. Opacity is a must. (via Alert Thingy)
- Jay Gilmore
It's great! (via Alert Thingy)
- Dennis
We hear you on the opacity thing. Good point about scroling up when writing a comment (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
Anybody for marking items as seen, a la twhirl? It seems that would be useful for keeping one's place.
- Voyagerfan5761
tried it out; seems just like a web browser... NEEEEDS functionality for me to re-consider using it
- The Product Guy
It is cool. But: turned off sounds and they are back. Window scales, but not the text size. very small! oh, and while I was writing a comment in a tiny box an update came in and my comment so far just vanished... (via Alert Thingy)
- Alex von Halem
@ Alex von Halem thanks I have added those to my list :) (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
@Jeremy Baines thanx. restarting stopped the sounds (perhaps just a note, that saving settings is not enough). Liking it more and more. Just a wee thing: when you hit the "comment" button: shouldn't your cursor start flashing in that field instead of having to click into it as well? Keep it up, it's going to be a winner! (via Alert Thingy)
- Alex von Halem
Also good! they make the list ;) - not actually sure when we will have time to finish everything on the list! but nice to have one so we know what needs doing ;) (via Alert Thingy)
- Jeremy Baines
nice!
- sandosh vasudevan
Just installed it. I don't like it (alert thingy)... much prefer the FF interface. But kudos to you on the "remote key" -- solid idea.
- Michael Leggett
I don't think it hides the entries set to be hidden on FF. Anyone else can confirm this?
- Turker Keskinpala
@Turker: I wrote about that this morning, so yeah, I can confirm. It's still showing my hidden stuff as I type this. I think the fault lies with the FriendFeed API, though. So far as I know, there's no indication of hiding status available.
- Voyagerfan5761
Turkey and Voyagerfan5761: I will work on this today. We are not passing the "hidden" bit through to the API properly.
- Bret Taylor
@Bret - can you look at the hide issue.. we are getting the hidden stuff showing in the API
- Jeremy Baines
Thanks Bret. FF web interface is so fast and usable that it is not easy to switch to a desktop application. Nevertheless, good work Jeremy Baines.
- Turker Keskinpala
It really is a nice piece of work, but I find the whole dark/translucent thing too hard to read. I also miss the collapsing of long comment threads (like this one). In fact, I didn't realize how nice a feature that was until I didn't have it and had to scroll and scroll to get to a new comment.
- Chris Johnson
Can someone explain to me, in 42 words or less, why an app like this is better than just accessing FF over the web? Color me seriously confused. I'd try it myself, but I get an error anytime I try to download it (and yes, I have Air installed).
- Adam Lasnik
@Adam Lasnik - Firefox can't handle a lot of tabs (non beta) and I'd rather use Alert Thingy or bTittleTattle then leave FriendFeed open in Firefox. (via Alert Thingy)
- Corvida
@corvida ahh but, FF3 beta is solid and handles a wealth of tabs with great aplomb. :) I've got my eye on AT, but for now it taketh more functionality than it giveth. I suspect with all this attention, though, it will soon giveth a lot more!
- felix
Corvida, or you could do what I do when I want to keep one or two tabs open persistently and easy-to-switch-to (e.g., Pandora): open them in Internet Exploder. What I was hoping to hear was that this Air app offered intriguing / helpful "extras" that one doesn't innately get in the web version. For instance, I use Twhirl because it aurally alerts me to direct messages AND displays all messages to me in chron order on one scrolling page -- something not offered on the Twitter web page.
- Adam Lasnik
@Felix I FF Betas crash on me way more than FF2 and that's more important to me. @Lasnik I don't have IE installed =P Don't want to keep 2 browsers open anways, it's defeating the point in a way. I'm still wasting resources, though I think Alert Thingy is less of a waste.
- Corvida
Okay, just tried it on another computer. Not for me. I find it much harder to read/scan stuff on it vs. the web page.
- Adam Lasnik
Restart your copies of AlertThingy v1.1 is here! ...via AlertThingy
- Jeremy Baines
search not working for unicode content? o_O ...via AlertThingy
- minus-one
Nice, but my hidden stuff's showing up in Friendfeed so all the duplicate twitter action is annoying me. ...via AlertThingy
- brad sucks
Yup! that is anoying! But a FreindFeed API issue not AT ...via AlertThingy
- Jeremy Baines
i love this application and can't live without it. ...via AlertThingy
- Kevin
Alertthingy's coming along nicely! I'll post a couple of suggestions on your site. ...via AlertThingy
- Phil Ashman
Thwirl now offering FF integration on AIR
- Steaprok
Just installed Twhirl 0.7.9 with FF support. Anyone care to tell me why AlertThingy is better? I'm kinda Twitter centric which is why I choose Twhirl.
- Elliott Ng
Personally My social i am finding great on my laptop just having it all there in front of my and not haing to swap spaces to see what Alert thingy is doin ...via AlertThingy
- John Spencer
I moved onto alerthingy from friend feed, stricly based on aesthetics. ...via AlertThingy
- Osize Om
@copyblogger I expect that Google will buy FriendFeed and Twitter within 18 months. Not to mention FlixWagon or Qik or Kyte.
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Wow. I actually agree:-) What airport are you stranded in? ...via AlertThingy
- Francine Hardaway
Francine, I'm leaving for the Tel Aviv airport in two hours. Long flight home.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, I tend to agree that our FF ex-Googlers with be re-Googlers in the future.
- Mike Reynolds
Yeah that would would be great... also, *sooooo* not going to happen.
- Jason Shellen
Not interested. Google was ok, but FriendFeed is a lot more fun.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: why?
- Amund Tveit
Amund, Google is a big company now.
- Paul Buchheit
I thought FriendFeed was going to buy Google.
- Amit Patel
Google can buy what they want to get them at the top. Can they buy the whole Internet?
- Jack
It's too bad Google has basically stopped innovating and just started bying stuff. Appengine is the pits and they haven' ...via twhirl
- Soulhuntre
It's too bad Google has basically stopped innovating and just started bying stuff. Appengine is the pits and they haven't doen much else. ...via twhirl
- Soulhuntre
friendfeed is already a spinoff of google ... what would he do with Jaiku ? and you forgot bambuser qwich integrates gmaps .. ...via AlertThingy
- Frédérick 2 Baro
@Jack I am sure they will give it a good try, although they will see it more like shaping the internet! ...via AlertThingy
- Joe Dawson
Soulhuntre, in a way i do agree with you, but i don't think that Google has deserted innovation, there's so many development projects running there. I think all this acquisition issue is a matter of economic calculations, instead of holding a special team to develop something for several years they just purchase a company that has already spent the time on R&D and created the product.
- Nir Ben Yona
ha. i called this back in october: http://gregcbrownyes.blogspot.com/2007... ...via AlertThingy
- greg brown
Maybe Google is jsut over-extended. They sat on Jot for years, then ruined it. They haven't done much with Gmail and search is stagnant for them. All they do to generate interest of late is spend money. ...via twhirl
- Soulhuntre
@Jack They can't:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
They most likely will try. But they won't get too far.
- Daniel Spradau
But Google already bought Jaiku. I hope they don't buy FF too soon. I'd hate to see it die under corporate stagnation.
- engtech
I agree with FriendFeed
- FaceySpacey
I agree...makes sense...one is the search of scrape and link, the other is the search of share and discover = Organise the worlds info ...via AlertThingy
- John Kotsaftis
friendfeed looks like a google service, acts like a google service, is built by xGooglers and is a perfect fit for Google. I agree and would love to see it happen. my only question, why didn't the team build this at Google?
- timepilot
@timepilot, I wondered the same thing at first. But apart from the possible entrepreneurial benefits, I'm guessing the freedom of development. They now have complete freedom around where they want to take it without the limitations of a large corporate agenda.
- Phil Ashman
no more romours ; ) ...via AlertThingy
- Kevin
twitter will be a better fit than Jaiku. Friendfeed is already pary of my Google Reader, but I guess it would help to own it
- Michael VanDervort
When will they buy Alertthingy? :)
- Michael VanDervort
What would Google do with Twitter after the damage they did to Jaiku and Dodgeball? ...via AlertThingy
- Jane Quigley
The difference between Jaiku and FriendFeed is that Jaiku wasn't funded and its founders weren't rich. They sold to Google to collect their bucks, and it was the right decision for them. FriendFeed doesn't need to sell out. So unless Google offers really a lot of money, there's no reason to sell unless Google has plans for FriendFeed. Which I doubt - if they had plans, they'd just developed it on their own. ;)
- sebmos
@jane: What damage did Google do to Jaiku? ...via AlertThingy
- Niclas Strandh
@Scobleizer agree re: friendfeed+google
- mutenewt
Maybe Paul can coin a new phrase, "Don't be sold."
- Vince DeGeorge
FriendFeed will be more interesting to Google if it gains mass appeal.
- Mike Reynolds
Yeah, I've been saying the same thing...Agreed ...via AlertThingy
- John Pretto
google bought jaiku, why should they buy twitter, too? ...via AlertThingy
- Timo Heuer
I can understand FriendFeed, but Twitter ... Friendfeed need to add more browsing controls, tag clouds, filters etc.... ...via AlertThingy
- Alemsah Ozturk
Who would like to write a guest post on my blog? It's one way to get your ego fed by getting on http://egos.alltop.com/
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Wouldn't mind writing one Robert if you think I'd be good enough ...via twhirl
- Tom Raftery
Sure, just when I posted about your twitter stream being too hard to keep up with. My last post was "Twitter and FriendFeed: Information Overload". That would have been good.
- Rob Diana
I forgot all about alltop ...via twhirl
- Bwana ☠
writing on your blog about the never ending story of ego .. sure ...via AlertThingy
- Frédérick 2 Baro
what topic do you prefer robert ? ...via AlertThingy
- Kevin
Love to:) ...via AlertThingy
- DC Crowley
Yeah! I am testing it! ...via twhirl
- Javier Duro
xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe - http://xkcd.com/411/
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i am a total xkcd fazn..so funny.
- susan mernit
Wait -- are you parsing xkcd now when someone links it? Very nice.
- DeWitt Clinton
Is this a comment on my music Bret? (the mouseover in particular sounds familiar)
- Paul Buchheit
I will defend techno to the end. http://www.last.fm/user...
- Louis Gray
it seems you don't know this kind of music, techno is more than you said but it's funny ...via AlertThingy
- tintin
LOL
- Chris Reed
@barackobama probably could pull in $100,000 a month in advertising revenue.
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Coz he's people's man.
- Jack
Check out my article on Obama's use of internet tools: http://mathoda.com/archive...
- Ranjit Mathoda
Jason Calacanis, Stop Lying About 9/11 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I couldn't really understand what he was saying, but I think he disagrees with Jason...
- Jeremy Herbel
It never ends!!! @ShelIsraeli joins us at Mahalo for the day.... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Wow, I just passed 20,000 people I'm following. That's just crazy.
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how do you deal with filtering/reading it?
- Amund Tveit
i'd like to know how you do that too, i assume you're not getting your twits from your mobile cos that'd be crazy (via Alert Thingy)
- Josiah Lau
Holy cow - maybe that's why you have not replied on my facebook messages? ;-)
- Michael Christensen
20,000 is a lot, but it's still only about 2% of Twitter users :)
- Mike Reynolds
Wow, how does one actually "follow" so many people on Twitter or FF?
- Christopher Yeo
I know UR crazy! I cant even keep up with my 100 followings!
- Lakshman Prasad
It's amazing how few people use Google Talk or understand just how I can keep up with this level of tweeting. I will do a video on this topic.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's *NOT* amazing how few people use Google Talk. It *IS* amazing how many convos you can keep up with. I'll watch the video though!
- Robert Seidman
You can almost fill half a baseball stadium with all your followers (via Alert Thingy)
- Rolf Schewe
It may seem crazy, but It's a heck of an audience to interact with. (via Alert Thingy)
- Rick Mahn
*lol* my hometown has roughly that amount of people.
- Nicole Simon
Whats the signal to noise ratio here? How do you cut out time wasted on enormous amount of noise? (via Alert Thingy)
- Vinuth M. Madinur
you do not actually follow...you have a embed filter in your head and you see the words or people you track right in your sunglass...at night you have to make a backup of all your data because just during the night your brain get overburned by so much information..of course when you're in the toilet you can print by bluetooth right from your brain the stuff you want to read on your toilet paper or the stuff you want to use to clean your assoff.. :)) (via Alert Thingy)
- Ben Borges
I can't wait to see this video. Although I don't know if I really need to learn how to efficiently follow more people. I already spend enough time reading random stuff from Twitter...
- elroy
Google’s “five year plan” to get into Enterprise continues - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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