Have you all noticed that no one is trusting enough of Facebook's walls to put their cell phone number on there?
- Andrew
I don't blame them, I keep my cell phone number well guarded. I can easily check my email from my iPhone, so if someone wants to reach me, they can that way.
- Scott Beale
Occassional: I put my cell phone number there and here and everywhere. It's +1-425-205-1921
- Robert Scoble
Scott - Do you accept friend requests from random people (ala Scoble)? If I did that I would keep my number guarded too.
- Andrew
Occasional: I get very few calls from random people, actually. Why? Because I only accept calls from people who share their phone numbers with me via CallerID.
- Robert Scoble
I've seen many of my friends parents begin to join Facebook recently. I'm just glad mind aren't on...yet.
- Jason Fouchard
from twhirl
Ha! I said that before I got your comment, Robert. I guess there is a limit to the amount of trouble it could really cause.
- Andrew
Occasional, to me friend request are just that, requests from friends, not random people. For me Facebook, Twitter, etc. would become useless to me if I subscribed to thousands of random people. I think even Scoble has stopped doing that, right Robert?
- Scott Beale
I think the problem is that people want to re-define what friends are when it comes to social netowrks. As it is my definition is pretty loose (ie. some people that I have "friended" I barely know), but how could it extend to complete strangers? And if that is your model, is the goal to be friends with everyone on that social network? If not, what's the criteria?
- Scott Beale
Personally (and using the models you described), I use different models for different sites. On Friendfeed, I look for people generating interesting content. I will "friend" anyone who does so, regardless of if I know them or not. Though on Facebook, I only "friend" people with whom I've had some type of positive personal interaction and thus I consider those people much closer to me.
- Andrew
Scott: I never subscribed to random people. Think about that one for a moment. I have ZERO complete strangers in my lists on any service. Think about that one for a moment too and why it is true.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, FB is different than the others since there really isn't a subscribe feature, like with FF or Twitter. With FB I have a much stricter "friend" policy.
- Scott Beale
It occurs to me we're probably going to have to come up with some new words in 2009. eFriend? Follower? Stalker?
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, so you know 22K+ people that you follow in Twitter? That's quite impressive.
- Scott Beale
I've noticed not only address book sized growth but conversations in Facebook. I don't think it's best days are behind them.
- Mike Lewis
The funny thing about this whole "friend" thing is that Facebook is one of the few social network were I actually find out what most people's real, full names are (LinkedIn is another). That often not the case here on FF or on Twitter. For me that provides a lot more value if I really want to know who I'm interacting with.
- Scott Beale
Scott: I totally agree with you. I really hate fake names. Just give me your real name, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Ken, I like to refer to all of this as "permission based stalking".
- Scott Beale
FriendFeed is better than Twitter when it comes to real names, of course I think that Occasional Headbanger's parents were quite cruel when they named their child.
- Scott Beale
I think it's important to point out the correlation between facebook's walls and people's willingness to use their real names. But in honor of this discussion I'm changing my name to Andrew. Maybe that will give me some credibility while maintaining some of my much prized and derided anonymity.
- Andrew
Scott - They were fans of Zappa. What can I say...
- Andrew
Thanks Andrew, personally I like to have some idea who I'm talking to. Again that's an area that works well in Facebook because of the privacy controls.
- Scott Beale
Spidra: yeah, you nailed what sucks about the Internet right there. Sigh. I wish it weren't so.
- Robert Scoble
Where FriendFeed blows away Facebook and Twitter is conversations, like this one.
- Scott Beale
Yeah, it's good to find the right balance. I use my real name, but I'm not going to post my cell phone number.
- Scott Beale
I've noticed that on Facebook, a lot of the conversations stagnate from lack of participants. So maybe Friendfeed's looser "friend" model works much better for finding good conversations.
- Andrew
Also, "looser friend model" sounds like someone I would love to "friend"...
- Andrew
Also on Facebook I'm not going to have a conversation with someone by talking on each other's walls. Comments on notes work pretty well, but they are not substitutions for real conversations.
- Scott Beale
I suppose the terminology, law, social conventions, etc all lag behind the technology. The fact that somebody I see and hang out with and talk to face to face every day, the random twitter/friendfeed penpal I correspond with in threads like this, the classmate I haven't spoken to since we graduated in 1984 and the coworker I couldn't stand when we worked together 10 years ago but contact with whom it's to my professional advantage to maintain are all considered "Friends" is sorta lame.
- Ken Sheppardson
I agree with Spidra, I think twice about joining a FB group and then do it only if it won't come back and bite me in the behind: groups on politics, religion, sex . . .that said, they are set up for communication among members on the wall and with discussion topics but hardly ANYONE uses them that way!
- Cecilia Pineda Feret
Half my contacts on my Facebook have their phone numbers there, not I though. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Robert, how do you remember so many people, more importantly names? I'd like to master that.
- Moushumi Kabir
For its part, Agence France-Presse retracted its four-missile version this morning, saying that the image was “apparently digitally altered” by Iranian state media. The fourth missile “has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test,” the agency said. Later, it published an article quoting several experts. Throughout the day, several news sites have taken steps to disown the photograph that they ran on Wednesday, including LATimes.com and MSNBC.com.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I find the enthusiasm of media funny. Media should better direct our country's foreign policy than scoring some brownie points on photoshop disasters. How does it matter if one missile failed. What matters is what we are going to do to stop missile proliferation without using our own missile. Scoring such brownie points are kid's play and not media's.
- Krishnan Subramanian
The Iranians should be writing Photoshop tutorials instead of trying to mimic their missle supply!
- John Barker
@RobertHafer, the AFP ran the unedited, doctored satellite photos prior to the war in Iraq.
- Prolific Programmer
Looks like one of their missiles didn't fire!
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
"If you suffer from Ballistic Missile Launch Malfunction, then Misalys may be right for you..."
- Live4Emma (L4S)
5 to 1 they used a pirated copy...they need to download a few Photoshop Podcasts for some tips on cloning...better yet, download "You Suck at Photoshop"...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
That is incredibly disturbing; the Photoshop clone tool will prolly be the cause of the button press on the next significant US-involved conflict.
- Clay Newton
Photography can be a powerful tool and terribly politically influential. I watched a photography documentary recently that cited the famous photo of a buddhist monk lighting himself on fire as the tipping point on the Vietnam involvement with President Kennedy.
- Thomas Hawk
My Dad told me that it was when Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" after the Tet Offensive that America changed their tune on the war...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
seems the bbc hasnt noticed. now they are showing footage of the missile launch that matches the AP photo and then also different newspaper front pages which published the photos, some using the AFP and others AP, but no mention of this. interesting.
- Katie Ratcliffe
Let's just drop the old one down the memory tubes to get rid of the double-plus-un-true version.
- Nicholas Molnar