Steve Gillmor says that Twitter says the problem is on their end and that they are working on it. Been like this for several days now. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I think it's a conspiracy! ;-) Did anyone ever get an honest answer out of Twitter as to why this is happening?
- Jeff P. Henderson
Days? More like weeks or months. If they were thinking, Twitter would reverse that latency so input to Twitter was fast and outbound was slower
- Christian Anderson
It is because FriendFeed is posting directly to Twitter via the twitter API. Twitter is NOT posting to FriendFeed, so it is up to FF's polling mechanism. But I suppose FF and Twitter could have worked something out where FF should get the updates in real-time.
- Daniel Sims
Bret wrote (on Thu) “The XMPP feed we get from Twitter is about 30 minutes behind. Sorry about the lag for Twitter messages this past week. We are working with Twitter to fix this technical issue.”" http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ken Sheppardson
I wanted to mention this the other day, it's annoying and so not useful. the core of Twitter is in real-time... well, it's not when it comes to Friendfeed.
- Orli Yakuel
I tend to force a refresh a lot - not just for twitter, either. Flickr photos haven't been showing up at all w/o the refresh.
- Sarah Perez
True, very annoying. Facebook is just as bad...their stream shows things I did days later.
- Neal Jansons
To me it looks like there's a disconnect of the Twitter "Firehose" that used to work between FF and Twitter. FF seems to be using Twitter's feeds now (maybe as a fall back) but twtitter feeds frankly suck. Slow, frequently broken, etc...
- mikepk
I also force Refresh often, both the tweets and blog posts on FF.
- Bora Zivkovic
This never bothered me. I almost never have a message that can't be sent out over a 30 minute period. When would that 30 minutes be so important? I'm curious.
- MarkCarras
Mark: when you are trying to have a conversation about something 30 minutes isn't acceptable. News, for instance. Or just plain comparing notes. What Twitter is doing is ensuring I'll send more notes from friendfeed because I know then both of my groups of friends will see whatever I'm doing at same time.
- Robert Scoble
there's actually a reason why Twitter's feeds are slow, but it's not described here
- Steve Gillmor
Robert: Twitter has never been about conversation though. It just doesn't seem like it was made for that to me. On the rare occasion I do converse through Twitter, I do it directly to avoid the lag. You are right about Friend Feed being better for conversation, but I think it was made with that more in mind.
- MarkCarras
Steve: Some reason other than the XMPP 30-min lag Bret mentioned last Thu? (per above)
- Ken Sheppardson
what's useless? My information? Do your homework.
- Steve Gillmor
Have to assume it has something to do with the "business model" they have but are not talking about... how long until search results/API are slowed by 30 minutes without $$$
- Brian Roy
that would be great if they made reliable access available for $$.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm of two minds. 1) It stifles the dev community 2) I'd pay (reasonably) for preferred access - if they are taking away what is there today unless we $$ that would just seem like extortion.
- Brian Roy
neither of those explain why the feed is asynchronous. 1. so far has not stifled community. 2. It's not here today.
- Steve Gillmor
By here today I meant inducing an artificial 30 minute delay in the (in particular) search API. I get tweets today within 15 - 30 seconds 90% of the time. I would, however, pay for a premium service with SLA for timely delivery.
- Brian Roy
I doubt a delay is being "induced." We "pay" for every message we get.
- Steve Gillmor
Ah... ok. As cryptic as that may seem I think I know exactly what you mean.
- Brian Roy
I am not being cryptic. I am being factual.
- Steve Gillmor
Yeah I know... that is what I meant. It seemed cryptic but wasn't. Thanks Steve.
- Brian Roy