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Special Gillmor Gang realtime rerun 1PM Pacific today http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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I missed this Gillmor Gang the first time, I was working...
- Cliff Gerrish
lot of buffering right now, unwatchable, or is it just me?
- HansVanRock
Working for me. Seems pretty smooth.
- Cliff Gerrish
thought mine had buffering probs till I realized I had it opened in two windows
- Michael Metz
geez, i've been looking all over for this. JUST NOW found it.
- Karoli
anyone know if it's available on itunes?
- Michael Metz
Try http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje... for older shows
- Jack
I understand it'll eventually be available on YouTube.
- Cliff Gerrish
this is cracking me up. LOL...
- Karoli
Where was Feldman? Love the setting he's in.
- Karoli
dude, scoble's feed looks like mine. and he has a zillion more follows.
- Karoli
can't get the video on my iphone. what's up with that?
- Karoli
got it -- ustream viewer on iPhone. not as smooth as it is on the mac
- Karoli
that's "punked", not "pwned", but it's all good :)
- Kurtiss Hare
thx kurtis
- Steve Gillmor
holy shit. Loren trusts CNN? that's his first mistake.
- Karoli
thx for watching RObert
- Steve Gillmor
So, was this the first episode since the new setup?
- Kurtiss Hare
more in that I sort of know how the feed went but can get a different view while watching. both are similar experiences
- Steve Gillmor
totally impressed w/video quality and stream on my mac...iphone is a little more herky-jerky via UStream app.
- Karoli
Robert, me too. I used to listen to Newsgang LIve afterwards too, because being in it and seeing it later are so different.
- Karoli
Kurtis yes, we had several false starts
- Steve Gillmor
I'll buy one.
- Kurtiss Hare
I'm enjoying this - thanks for replaying it, Steve
- Hilary Talbot
ROFL...we are definitely in a theater.
- Karoli
lol, the meltdowns continue
- Mark
Does David Sanborn appreciate cell phone use during his live sets?
- Kurtiss Hare
this is great. love it. such high theatre.
- Karoli
"cell phone off" doesn't mean the same thing as "ringer off" does it? Too much talking... not enough listening...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm waiting for him to stream one of those live sets. (and don't tell Loren I tweet from church...LOL)
- Karoli
david sanborn loves when people tweet about his show during concerts
- Steve Gillmor
this is AWESOME
- Mark
feldman is ALL OVER Scoble
- Mark
this is better watching the second time around
- Jay Cuthrell
Loren should do his own talk show
- Jesse Stay
+1 Jesse (same thought just 2 seconds to late)
- HansVanRock
Loren -is- his own talk show
- Jay Cuthrell
lolllllllllllllllllllll
- Mark
Great great delivery
- Jay Cuthrell
I tuned in late and got hit in the face with this... hm. Missed what brought down Loren's wrath on Robert.
- Ken Sheppardson
Loren's all over the place, by his own logic, why should CNN be authoritative when they're not the ones making the news?
- Kurtiss Hare
Ken - There is a FF thread over in building43 that covered the back and forth for the original live airing
- Jay Cuthrell
this is the point where i want to thank Steve that Gillmor Gang is back
- HansVanRock
steve, where did you just post your reply re: Sanborn loving tweets during sets? I can't find it on this thread...(confusion)
- Karoli
what the fuck just happened
- Mark
rock on, Steve. great show, so glad it's back.
- Karoli
here you Ken: http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
- Jay Cuthrell
thats it?
- HansVanRock
AND SCENE
- Jay Cuthrell
with all the respect to you GANG you can do this better in close doors sorry
- Johni Fisher
Keith Jarrett would probably just end the concert. Suppose it depends on the artistic temperament.
- Kurtiss Hare
Loren and Scoble at each other's throats. Theatre. Drama. Fake blood. Professional wrestling at its most amateur.
- Michael Markman
Sigh. Somebody lemme know where there's an RSS feed for the bootleg audio, will ya?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, have you looked over on UStream? There may be video there...
- Karoli
I checked UStream but the only archives are Steve playing with the initial setup.
- Jay Cuthrell
there will be a YouTube version soon
- Steve Gillmor
The quality of the broadcast (technology) is outstanding
- Jay Cuthrell
Steve : why always to fight ?
- Johni Fisher
where can I subscribe to this show?
- No Agenda Forums
Johni life can be a struggle
- Steve Gillmor
there will be an RSS feed on gillmorgang.techcrunch.com
- Steve Gillmor
Steve DO you really think that Feldman is a Gang member ? speaking as he spoke to Robert ?
- Johni Fisher
The Gillmor Gang is who I say it is
- Steve Gillmor
and ?
- Johni Fisher
just subscribed to http://friendfeed.com/realtim... having it sent to FF notifier popup.
- Karoli
Johni, Feldman might be a LIfetime Gang member. Just sayin'. :)
- Karoli
and what?
- Steve Gillmor
Thanks Steve. Looking forward to listening.
- No Agenda Forums
GG is amorphous, but I sure do miss a voice like Udell's, back in the day.
- Kurtiss Hare
thanks for listening No Agenda
- Steve Gillmor
I was thinking about the limitations on TV broadcast video for a simulcast with sidebar conversation... not sure how many people have 62" TV's yet that would support offload to a interstital and separate chat window (reminds me of early AOL experiments with interactive pre-IPTV)
- Jay Cuthrell
I talk with Udell all the time, just not on the air recently
- Steve Gillmor
[ (TV) (sidebar) ] would be a pretty big screen
- Jay Cuthrell
okay, later. Lots of fun, Steve, thanks for rerunning for lamers like me who missed the first round.
- Karoli
good to see you Karoli
- Steve Gillmor
I just like how varied the personalities are on the show. Bass. Drums. Guitar. Harmonica.
- Jay Cuthrell
back to work... later folks
- Jay Cuthrell
If anyone missed this rerun there's an MP3 here: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/bootleg...
- Jack
thx jack
- Christopher Harris
Thx for the bootleg Jack!
- Kahlil Lechelt
Yes thanks very much for the bootlegs Jack, much appreciated all around.
- Michael Breslin
btw thank you for recording the prev show!
- Michael Pinto
Listened to the bootleg feed, great show. I doubt I'll ever watch live as I'm more a radio guy. Loren's comment as being a trusted source for reporting the Michael Jackson funeral has a disturbing similarity to Blackwater being a trusted source for the US Military. I'm all for keeping Feldman and Keen on the show and it was great hearing Calacanis again, Scoble on the other hand.... It's your show Steve
- Jason Adams
Just returned from holiday to discover that Steve has put the gang back together. Great first show. Love the fact that Steve no longer sounds like a call-in guest on his own show. Thanks to whoever set up the bootleg mp3 feed - vital for this long-term listener. Keep up the good work, chaps and chapesses!
- Richard Carter, FCD
from iPhone
> @Karoli thanks for the link re G. Gang in real time only! i will look forward to the later release but I can't do real time on dog walks:(
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I think all of the shows will be released eventually. comments seemed to indicate working-out of some youtube glitches
- Karoli
There should be realtime voice to text and text to voice clients for friendfeed.
- Chuck Baggett
twit.am 3PM Pacific Saturday good time to walk dog
- Steve Gillmor
I will commit to walking dog at 3 PM Sat. to listen to GG. Or better still, go to the gym.
- Francine Hardaway
Steve, my dog insists on 3pm walkies. it's hard-wired into her. so glad to have a way to listen.
- Karoli
of course, I have an iPhone so this works for me.
- Steve Gillmor
steve, i have an iphone too. so there.
- Karoli
excellent
- Steve Gillmor
Sampad Swain, mjc, Nicholas James and 5 other people liked this
hear hear
- Thomas Power
They're making "unlimited friends" soon ;)
- Nicholas James
Well I can't wait... So I can bury this public profile and focus on one single place to interact
- Kaysha
“When I was in college, guys usually pretended they were in a band,” comments one observer. “Now they pretend they are in a start-up.”
JohnBorthwick, edythe, Victor Panlilio and 12 other people liked this
What if you're in a band AND a startup?
- Chris Lamprecht
lot of both bands & startups in garages. are garages hot?
- Karim
Or they can "pretend for real" with the game, Rock Band!
- Piaw Na
weird to see so much of your life -- and your ancestors' -- go by all at once (sorting thru attic) #movingmom
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Gillmor Gang 04.06.09 - http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2009...
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The Gillmor Gang - Michael Arrington, Leo Laporte, Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, Andrew Keen and Dan Farber - talk about FriendFeed 2.0 with Paul Buchheit. Recorded Monday, April 6, 2009.
- Steve Gillmor
Just beware the anger.
- Shawn Thompson
Beware the anger?
- Paul Jacobson
Paul: First it's Arrington vs. FriendFeed, then Arrington vs. Scoble/FriendFeed, then FriendFeeders vs. Arrington, then Keen piles on... in other words, pretty typical GG ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
This is tomorrows commute for sure!
- Ken Morley
Ah, excellent! Familiar old names. But who is this Arrington newbie?
- Richard Carter, FCD
Paul: it was a great conversation. Wondering if you have any plans of posting to an identica install the same way I can cc to my twitter account. Is there a reason that this is not implemented? Every time you talk about multiple messaging platforms it gets me thinking about identica and FF playing well together.
- Christian Burns
This is an interesting discussion to me because I've noticed that twitter is becoming or has become a micro messaging platform. Friendfeed seems more for a power user type that understands RSS and feed technologies. Twitter is dead simple, and allows anyone to get on and start. Twitter is for dummies. But also very interesting is the flexibility of Twitter and how pseudo standards like @username and #hashtags are developing.
- John Wright
Really a terrific discussion. And it took place on FF,in the Twit chat room, and on the video/phone simultaneously.
- Francine Hardaway
Is Gillmor a friendfeed investor? Seriously, how many Gilmor Gang episodes can you discuss friendfeed?
- Techboy2000
Techboy2000: Steve's interest is in restoring Track. It's that simple. It has nothing to do with Twitter or Friendfeed.
- Christian Burns
Is the incidental music supposed to be some kind of in-joke? It is amazingly bad...
- Alex Gawley
just finished listening... excellent discussion and congrats Paul + team!
- Jay
Great conversation! Arrington and Keen are maddening and seem out of touch. Agree with Leo that Twitter will be the AOL of this new social ecosystem. Twitter's early success means that they are now stuck where they are. They can't afford to add any complexity without confusing their existing user base. They are what they are, and FriendFeed is something else.
- Ken Morley
I listened to this episode an hour or two ago and I was dumbfounded how closed minded Andrew Keen is and how fixated Michael Arrington is on Twitter. Twitter is successful but FriendFeed has a lot to offer. It is unfair to declare Twitter the runaway winner and that there is no point for anything else, including FriendFeed. It is a bit like this American fixation on the iPhone as the best thing since the Internet. There is a big world out there.
- Paul Jacobson
To be fair to Andrew, I believe it's only been in the last month or two that he's bought into Twitter, and now people are trying to sell him on "the next big thing". He's come a long way from "The twits are twittering on Twitter" http://blogs.zdnet.com/keen...
- Ken Sheppardson
I didn't get the sense that Andrew Keen had used FriendFeed very much. Arrington either for that matter. They seemed to not understand some reasonably basic FriendFeed functionality, like being able to forward FF posts to Twitter.
- Thomas Hawk
I had the same sense, Thomas. Kinda like when you hear a movie critic and wonder if he saw the same movie you did.
- Mark Traphagen
The way that Friendfeed works allows it to do the heavy lifting, filters, conversation, realtime, direct messages to groups. It adds value to Twitter, but can still stand on it's own. Mike did have some good points, as did Andrew from were they are standing the spoke the truth. It's just that life is better for us standing here.
- Christian Burns
"Is FriendFeed a Twitter client"?! *With* FF, everything is. delicious. GReader. Flickr. EVERYthing with a feed.
- Denise Howell
I listened to this today and really enjoyed it. It felt like Arrington was much more focused on things like market share, whereas Paul (and to some extent Steve and Leo) is really looking at a much bigger picture: where is the web and digital communication going? Paul seems to have the luxury of just wanting to be part of faciliating a new form of communication - he doesn't need to assure fthat his company will be at the forefront of the revolution, just that the revolution takes place.
- Laura Norvig
The Deal: Betaworks backs Tweetdeck; and more - http://www.thedeal.com/techcon...
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Twitter organizer Tweetdeck scores seed round Tweetdeck Inc., a one-man startup that's quickly become one of the most popular programs for Twitter over the last six months, has raised a seed round of $500,000 led by New York's innovative incubator Betaworks. Tweetdeck creator Iain Dodsworth, a 34-yer-old Web developer in London, tells Behind the Money that he wrote the Tweetdeck program because he was frustrated with the single stream of Twitter tweets, which he found "overwhelming."
- Louis Gray
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EXCLUSIVE: Facebook is turning on HD video. Watch the video at http://www.fastcompany.tv -- you heard it here first!
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Video of Chris Putnam here. He runs Facebook's video team: http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
- Robert Scoble
Nice!!!!
- drew olanoff
720 P HD video now on Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
16:9 goodness.
- Robert Scoble
Also, videos are now embeddable on your own blog!
- Robert Scoble
cool .... did you get re-instated ?
- johnpiercy
Why is this important? Any user generated videos will likely be cell-phone quality. Enlighten me!
- Will Higgins™
Nice one Robert!
- Evan
If cellphone photos are any sign, HD cellphone video isn't that far off.
- Kevin Fox
watching now. looks cool
- Scott Sorheim
Like Winer said, it's all just about the feature fight. YAWN!
- Stephen Pierzchala
Animes and TV shows moving to Facebook...?
- Kristian Salonen
f ya! their video product has been so poor. wonder if we can see video views now?!?!
- sean percival
Wait a minute. This one is actually a feature that people care about. If Scoble likes it that's a clue.
- Dave Winer
I wonder when/if they will increase the quality of the photos that are uploaded
- Brian Sloane
Will: Because many new camcorders do HD video. Also, SmugMug and Vimeo had HD first and should get credit.
- Robert Scoble
When they talk about a Battle For Mindshare -- that's the BS. http://bit.ly/ul49
- Dave Winer
Brian: the quality should start going up soon. Especially if you uploaded 720P stock.
- Robert Scoble
At last a great use for my Kodak Zi6. Huge difference from my old Flip.
- Christine Dattilo
NEWS FLASH! Winer and Scoble agree! Skating now open on Crystal Spring Resevoir! But I guess I would have to be a bigger video creator/user to really care that deeply.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Do I get stats on my videos yet?
- drew olanoff
impressive picture quality.
- john conroy
I don't think I've seen anyone use the facebook video on my list. I think youtube should get off their arses and do something similar, though.
- Terry O'Fee
This is probably very naive, but I just don't understand how companies can handle storage for media like this. Millions of users (I know only a fraction will) upload HD quality video. I don't get it. And I just got my customized Flip Mino (decided no HD because of file size). http://twitpic.com/qghk
- Leif Hansen
@drew thats what im saying, video hosting with stats is worthless to content producers and ego maniacs!
- sean percival
Now I really need to go to the beauty parlor instead of the barber! Google Connect/FB Connect YTube HD/FB HD. The big guys know recession means sharp elbows in the paint!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
this guys hair was SOOOO made for HD
- sean percival
I like Vimeo a lot. No one uploads any video to Facebook. I've seen 1 video from my friends on Facebook. Posting video from other sites though, that's becoming more common. Too bad the only videos posted are SNL sketches.
- Will Higgins™
Actually I heard it on Twitter first. :D :D :P
- Bwana ☠
interesting how the story appears to be only on scobles blog and techcrunch hmm
- Allen Stern
Yup, I wasn't actually the only one with the news here. I have the only video. This is the first time I've agreed to a nondeterminant exclusive. We only knew a few minutes ago that the news would go out now. Rocky woke me up in London to get the news posted.
- Robert Scoble
This one is a yawner for me. Youtube going HD was much more significant.
- Bwana ☠
hahah. facebook is good to link for other services...
- Terry O'Fee
Now Robert, I thought Facebook had kicked you off their platform a while back. Oh, but they let you back I see...
- Leif Hansen
not what i meant robert - more that it seemed like more usual outlets would have the news as well - i have never received facebook news but wondering why the other valley bloggos dont have it... as bwana notes, not really a huge deal - especially since we know facebook has no idea how to monetize (see my post yesterday)
- Allen Stern
Allen: it's because of the weird embargo. I had to agree to hold the news until they told us we could talk. Most news people wouldn't agree to that. Also, Facebook didn't want news to leak so they went with only a few people they had personal relationships with. I've known Chris Putnam since he was 16, so that's why I was included.
- Robert Scoble
Bwana: I agree that YouTube getting HD is more significant, but this is pretty major too. Also, Facebook lets you upload 20 minutes. YouTube only 10.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert for the explanation
- Allen Stern
you also need to log in to see facebook content. not such a big deal these days but youtube links you can just click on no matter which computer you are on...
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: that is not true anymore. If videos on Facebook are shared with everyone you do not need to log in to see them anymore.
- Robert Scoble
this is so cool. add video chat capability, live streaming video, and this thing might get as big or bigger than youtube, considering the huge userbase facebook has.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
well, that's handy then. good to know. having the option to just click on a link and instantly watching the vid is alright by me.
- Terry O'Fee
I don't see it as major because Facebook's video community is virtually non-existent. Had they opened up video to non-Facebook users a year ago and THEN added HD today, it may be different. There's a ton of competition in this field, and it's a steep hill to climb. I will be very surprised if we're even talking about Facebook HD video 3 months from now.
- Bwana ☠
Lots of our customers are beta testing our 1080p video support - http://twurl.nl/e4kxby - so make sure to holler if you want your SmugMug account beta enabled. (I'd guess we're only a few days away from enabling it for all our Pros - but you can still play with it first)
- Don MacAskill
(That message was for anyone - not [just] Robert)
- Don MacAskill
Are they upscaling (or something) SD content to 720p? Every video I watch has an option to "View in Regular Quality" regardless of the source.
- Robert Yocum
Robert: if you upload a video with 720p then it does NOT upscale. If you upload lower quality, though, it does. Don: you guys rock. I so want a new Canon 5D.
- Robert Scoble
Robert It seems YouTube has three view qualities now, but only offers two choices per video. If the source is not uploaded in HD you get a choice of "normal" or "high." But if the source is HD (720p) you get a choice of "normal" or "HD"
- Michael Markman
Lowest cost route into making HD videos: the Flip Mino HD. (street ~$200) They're going to get a nice fat sales bump
- Michael Markman
I've been asking for payloads in Twitter for over a year. Pretty sure I've asked for them in FriendFeed. Let me put arbitrary metadata on a FF post. That way I can create an application that "likes" something but allows me to put some English on it. "I like it because I agree with it."
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Then I could build a plug-in that displays the results. (Ahh if only..) That's the role of plug-ins, to allow people to build apps that: 1. Attach metadata to a post and interpret it.
- Dave Winer
There would be a second application of plug-ins. 2. To allow me to send a link to this item to a place like del.icio.us or some new place that might come to exist as a result of this ability. We're thinking about evolving bit.ly in this direction, but need to have FF or Twitter help us here, by adding the ability to add arbitrary metadata to posts.
- Dave Winer
Perfect example of a time when search should return RSS. Then FF could notice it was RSS and display it inline. Do you doubt that someday we will be doing that? Why not now? (I hate waiting for shit I know I'm going to be doing someday that's trivial to implement and just waiting for the gatekeeper to bother listening.)
- Dave Winer
Funny thing is, you can &output=rss on a news search ... but not on a web search :-/
- Joel Bennett
Yeah, and on blogsearch (which would work in this instance) so now we just have to wait for FF ;-)
- Joel Bennett
Joel thanks for the tip -- that's interesting! Obvious improvment would be to pass through all the metadata from the site's RSS feed, for example http://scripting.com/rss.xml.
- Dave Winer
Aurora (Part 1) - http://www.vimeo.com/1450211
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Saw the video earlier today, looks lik a very intersting concept / interface.
- Jason Holbrook
How to edit subscription lists with the OPML Editor - http://howto.opml.org/dave...
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I'm starting to work on updating the docs from the OPML Editor support site. It's remarkable how quickly they went out of date. I'm using a new tool, howTo.root, to edit these. You can try it out if you want, it's in the Catalog linked to from the Misc menu. You need to have an Identi.ca login to get access. Enter your username and password in the Preferences (again off the MIsc menu).
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Oooops, I meant to post this to a private room. I guess it's a bit of an (unintentional) tease. Coming soon to a theater near you! :-)
- Dave Winer
Use Twit-A-Bit While Twitter Is Down - http://www.twitabit.com
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I just highlighted Mark Dykeman's guest blog post: Nine Ways to Enlarge the Social Media Audience http://tinyurl.com/nineways (Now, we'll see how long it takes for Twitter to grab it.)
- Louis Gray
Nice find Louis, it seems like tweetdeck pushes my posts in a similar way- waits for the system to come back up, could be wrong though.
- michael sean wright
How To Shorten URLs With Bit.ly Using Quicksilver - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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Introducing bit.ly: http://bit.ly/2lkCCn - http://identi.ca/notice/52300
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Hey Dave, are there plans to integrate this into a service like Twhirl. If it is to be truly successful, it could start off on the right foot by insuring integration into these Adobe AIR applications.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
thanks Dave and all involved - much appreciated - it's on my Firefox browser toolbars on Ubuntu and Windoze Vista now
- Jeff Evans
very nice implementation.
- jakebf
New blog post: Bit.ly launches today! http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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I know that was a mistake Igor. http://bit.ly/2lkCCn
- Dave Winer
Thing is we have all these systems built around TinyUrl. It'll take a while to switch them over. I also have to switch over from my custom-built one for NewsJunk.
- Dave Winer
bit.ly looks really great. Nice work guys! It's a toss-up btwn them and twurl.nl at this point. I like Tweetburner's stats, tho.
- Clay Newton
thought it was just another url-shortener clone but after reading your post, bit.ly seems to bring much more to the table in that space
- Alan Le
Very nice - just tried it on a post and I am impressed - and the tracking is impressive.
- Virtual Bird's Eye
from twhirl
Very interesting. I always wondered what would happen if TinyUrl one day shut its doors. Think of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of links that would be rendered unusable. If there was a way to save a list of those links locally, that would be very useful down the road.
- Terry
Sweet. Now we just need Twhirl to support it. Dave will you contact Loic or should I?
- Mark Krynsky
Introducing bit.ly — the incredible professional’s URL-shortener - http://switchabit.wordpress.com/2008...
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its url is longer than is.gd ...go figure!
- Glenn Batuyong
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