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Dinner Party http://leoville.posterous.com/dinner-...
Brad Arsenault and Eric Geller liked this
I'm not seeing any pictures at the above URL. Leo, what's up with the redundant postings?
- Steven W. Kelly
It's practically guaranteed that Sarah will be blogging by the time she is in kindergarten. She's a natural.
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SIO∗SISM, Tina-Marie Simba-Masozera, Jfavreau and 96 other people liked this
She'll make more sense then me!
- Johnny Worthington
sure.
- Madhav Tripathi
I can't handle the cute!
- joey
joey, just another day at our house! :)
- Louis Gray
I like the leg up. Ilia still sits that way when using her fake laptop.
- Admiral Anika
from fftogo
Make sure she takes breaks, so she doesn't develop RSI. Eventually, MacSpeech Dictate might be the way to go.
- Victor Panlilio
Anika - a scandal! A fake laptop!? Don't you love your daughter? :)
- Louis Gray
:) mine has a real laptop...but it doesn't work. She is happy to use it, though.
- WorldofHiglet
I see she's practicing the LOL in the second pic.
- Mark Evans
She is, Mark. Note she is looking at Google images for puppies. She may have found an LOLdog.
- Louis Gray
I can't believe you let her drool on a beloved Apple macbook!
- anna sauce
OK she's cute, but still!
- anna sauce
For the record, even when I don't click "like," I like all the photos of your cute twins.
- Rex Hammock
the 2nd photo is killer. as a side note, your mac needs more stickers.
- pea
Pea, my Mac has lots of stickers. That's my wife's (on loaner from her school), and it only features Seesmic.
- Louis Gray
Thanks btw, to Anna, Rex and all for your nice comments. We enjoy the twins and enjoy sharing them with you.
- Louis Gray
Proof that Mac OSX really is childs play
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh Kevin... (shakes head) :)
- Louis Gray
Kevin: lol
- Kevin Arth
Or, easy enough a child can use it
- Jesse Stay
Way to start her on the best platform, I'm surprised she's not blogging already.
- Wayne Sutton
Make sure you start her off with wordpress or posterous :)
- Wayne Sutton
Twitter + Worpdress + MacBook Air = "Look Who's Talkin'" :P
- Adam Jackson
Never too young to start, but she should start with microblogging before she moves up to full blogging. Get her a Twitter account and let her bang on the keyboard just like 5 yr old @miamalarkey and make sure you archive those tweets for posterity.
- April Russo (app103)
sarah needs a cn sticker i see
- Allen Stern
Dude. Allen... you fired her brother. She remembers.
- Louis Gray
چخه بچه .... خراب میشه :دی
- فرزاد
louis - the economy is bad - i got mouths to feed - i would be open to talking to sarah - she seems more the blogger type - matthew likes to apparently beat people up
- Allen Stern
like that baby has a mac and i dont >=/
- Marissa
so... do you let Sarah hammer your mac, Louis? or just your wife's?
- Trish Haley
RT @maccast: Cool Apple Store find. http://www.twelvesouth.com/product... Adjustable shelf for the back of your iMac by twelve south. http://twitpic.com/emdik
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What Food Do You Hate That Everyone Else Loves? - http://www.slashfood.com/2009...
Myrna, Jason Huebel, Emma and 46 other people liked this
I think we all know where I stand on avocados, and guacamole, but I don't drink coffee either. I don't *hate* coffee like I do that green stuff though...
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Guacamole is evil and of the devil.
- Bette Cooper
Chocolate ice cream.
- Trish R
Candy in any form. I can do pastries when they are more bready than sweet, but I can't do candy at all.
- Neal Jansons
I hate bell peppers, although I'm not sure that's a "loved" food. If they have been in a pan at a restaurant, I can taste it if the pan was not washed...
- Georgia Diehl
hardboiled eggs and everything they are ingredients in, like deviled eggs, potato salad, macaroni salad, egg salad, etc. oh. and cilantro. :)
- holly
Olives in any form except for oil, but I'm not sure they count since I think it's a fifty/fifty split in the populous.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Jello. (shudder)
- Jess
Cilantro & dried shiitake mushrooms.
- Andrew C
asparagus.... vile weed of the devil
- mikepk
Spam
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
cherries
- chaz2b
could you please repeat the question? (I eat anything and everything except boiled okra - and I don't think that too many people dig that)
- Morgan Haley
Fruit in general. I think this is often perceived as a moral failure on my part.
- s t e v e
cooked fruit. I.e. fruit pies (apple, cherry, strawberry-rubarb, etc)
- Kamala Whitaker
Uhhh just hit me. Peaches especially peach flavoured Ice Tea or peach scented Deoderant and Perfumes... Goes right to my gag reflex.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Cooked fruit, except for apples.
- cecily
Lawson: *blocked*
- holly
Onions.
- Bren -- feeling merry
from iPhone
Whoa. A taste of my own medicine from holly.
- s t e v e
avocados, cantaloupe, bell peppers, beets - those are the ones that people continually try and convince me I'm a freak to dislike
- Maria Niles
i'm a vegetarian so what that entails plus i hate frozen vegetables, water chestnuts, eggplant and sugar snap peas
- mike "glemak" dunn
oh yeah thanks maria - all types of melon and green bell peppers (they're not ripe ya know)
- mike "glemak" dunn
any sweet food :D
- Shandiz
Fresh ginger. Almost all cooked fish (I <3 sushi/sashimi, and most cured fish.)
- Jennifer Dittrich
Avocado is nasty.
- R1CC1
Coffee, eggs, mayonnaise, mushrooms, fish
- Katy S
Tuna. I love fresh tuna in Japanese food but that stuff in the cans ... that's cat food. *shudders*
- Penny
Cinnabuns, they're just too sweet for me.
- adf
Loves beets and okra. ---->
- Ayşe E.
No mayonnaise for me, thanks, unless it is used sparingly and masked by multiple other things.
- Ayşe E.
Goat cheese, mint candy/artificial mint (even in toothpaste).
- joey
Licorice and coffee.
- Rochelle
Oh, good one Rochelle. I hate licorice, too. And dried coconut but I've learned to sort of tolerate that one.
- joey
Cilantro makes me cringe, but not much else.
- Mr Saturday Morning NFG
Facebook
- Scratch5150
Oh You meant Food? I guess it would have to be Oysters raw or cooked then Yuck!
- Scratch5150
Bacon.
- Brome
I hate seafood but also allergic so, yeah.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from iPhone
Bananas, raisins, jelly/jam. How you people eat these things without wretching is beyond me.
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
oh yeah, black licorice. Yuuuuuuuuuuucko. Actually, I thought that was widely hated enough that it didn't occur to me to mention it.
- Andrew C
Cilantro,flan (yes, weirdo Mexican.), green bell peppers,brussell sprouts and allergic to peanuts. Can't drink coffee but it seems like a great ritual.
- Gabrielle V
Ewww...flan, definitely.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Strawberries! Sue me! ;-) http://ff.im/51DRr
- directeur
Eggs (except heavily flavored as in deviled or some omelets). Used to hate licorice, but now I've flipped around and I love it.
- Kamilah Gill
Coffee. Love the smell, but can't stand the taste. I'll take a cup of hot cocoa over a cup of coffee any day of the week. Also, mushrooms. Yuck.
- Carlton Prest
Bacon. Pie. Brownies. Coffee (though I don't hate it. Just never acquired a taste for it. Same with beer or any alcoholic drink.)
- pea
I don't do coffee, mushrooms, or eggplant. However, I will HURT a bowl of boiled okra.
- Laura B.
Chillies and most curry
- Mellissa
Okra, Onions, Green Peppers
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well I love just about everything. The only thing I can think of is real Whipped Cream....makes my stomach flip.
- Bonnie Foster
Anything with nuts in it or just plain nuts themselves due to fatal allergies. Because of that, I can't see what the big deal with nuts really is. I also hate Starburst, taffy or any kind of teeth intensive candy
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
from Android
Italian food.
- sofarsoShawn
Where to begin?!?
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
Cheese, eggs and seafood. People get really mad about the cheese. I've been told that that makes me "unamerican". Lol.
- valalalala lala la la
from BuddyFeed
Beer. And anything flavoured with aniseed or similar - so licorice, black jellybeans, sarsparilla, etc.
- Mellissa
I was going to say black licorice but it looks like lots of other people can't stand that crap.
- Jim Will Miss SP
Cilantro. And hossenfeffer
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
I can't think of anything. It's hard enough to think of food I don't like
- Rodfather
I wish there was a way for me to collect all this great food from y'all. Though I search, I've yet to find any common food that I dislike.
- Christopher Harley
Licorice and coffee. Rochelle way up there hates them, but that combo sounded good to me. Have to try it.
- Jack DeWitt Smith
Onions and mushrooms.
- Tyson Key
Oh, I forgot all about peas. That's #1 on the list. My Sis will sneak them into my mac n cheeses and ruin it. Evil!
- Gabrielle V
Adding peas to mac and cheese does ruin it and I like peas.
- R1CC1
durian
- Joe Silence
also bananas
- Joe Silence
Love this picture!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Oh and One of my friend's loves head Cheese. Bleeeaugh!! just the name is gross. its not even actually Cheese! its meat pieces from the head of a calf or pig made into a loaf.. yucko.
- Scratch5150
Lima, kidney and refried beans
- imabonehead
Guacamole, yes. Those beans they put in burritos. And the other beans they put in chili. And coffee.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Coconut
- Ben Hanten
orange chicken
- Marco
Brie
- dthree
brie is an extremely variable thing, but it's certainly understandable.
- Joe Silence
licorice, root beer, spicy thai food, chocolate with peanuts....
- Petek(UCB)_
Eggs. Avocado.
- Chieze Okoye
Cheese except emmental, cheddar and french raclette.
- DAL
Chocolate!
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Melon.
- Duff
Anything that contains alcohol (not that I have tasted any).
- Jemm
turning that one around: is there actually a food that everyone likes? I know 2 people who dont like chocolate...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Cake? Potato chips? Fries?
- Mellissa
Red onions...blech
- Charlotte M
I used to hate black licorice too, until I had it here in Denmark. I must say, I've changed my tune on that. However, still not a fan of marzipan, which seems to be the national icky thing. Oh, and guf... it's like whipped cream only sweeter and ickier and goes on ice cream. That's just wrong. I worship teh Cinnabon...
- Bette Cooper
glad to learn i am not the only one who dislikes licorice!
- barbarars
tropical fruits sucks....
- anjelina
shrimp
- MutfakTeyze
coffee.. its always company me when i got stress,, LoVE youu Full
- sukmo setyo utomo
So what you are saying, D, is I get all your coffee and guac. That's cool ;) I don't like... canned mushrooms (raw or cooked in anyway) and black and green olives. Love olive oil, though. Tis a mystery.
- Michael W. May
seafood or fish of any kind.
- Mary Carmen
Lima beans. blech...!
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Strawberries - My dad was allergic to them, so it is ingrained in me that strawberries are inherently bad for you. The funny thing is, I love strawberry flavored foods, I just can't have the real thing. I know, I know...I'm missing out.
- Kyle Wegner
Mushrooms
- Chris Luckhardt
Watermelon
- Brian Sullivan
Guacamole. Rice pudding. >>gags<<
- rowlikeagirl
Watermelon Jolly Ranchers
- Wes Hoogenboom
I am against Cherries as well.
- Brent - Loving Life
Chocolate and cake. Also, chocolate cake.
- Alex Scrivener
I've never found a food that I hate, and I've eaten a lot of weird stuff. The only thing I wasn't nuts about was bone marrow, but still no hate.
- jcunwired
has anybody ever tried 1000years egg? i even could not put it in my mouth...
- Petek(UCB)_
One of the most vile foods I've ever tasted was durian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...): "Chef Andrew Zimmern compares the taste to "completely rotten, mushy onions." Anthony Bourdain, while a lover of durian, relates his encounter with the fruit as thus: "Its taste can only be described as...indescribable, something you will either love or despise. ...Your breath will smell as if you'd been French-kissing your dead grandmother."
- rowlikeagirl
French Toast
- Marissa
Love the idea of @Gruml (a Mac native Google Reader app) but want to know more about who is running it, security, and privacy before giving it my Google ID. - http://www.grumlapp.com/
Christopher Cantu, Kevin Whalen, Peter Hoffmann and 3 other people liked this
I'm loading it up the moment I know whoever is running it is legit, and my credentials aren't recorded beyond my own machine. :-)
- Chris Baskind
Why not just use the browser?
- Chris Johnston
Or NetNewsWire?
- Ian Betteridge
Well, I might continue to use the browser (especially since I'm moving toward GReader's social features). But NeyNewsWire's new GReader-enabled interface is pretty spartan. As far as I can tell, there now way to share from it. And NNW has given up most of the features that made it cool, such as nested folders.
- Chris Baskind
Or get Eventbox and get facebook, twitter, flickr, reddit, digg, etc. as well as GReader in the app ? Also has Growl and an optional HUD.
- Thomas Bøhm
Fwd: Prove me I'm wrong and... - http://naurunappula.com/z... (via http://friendfeed.com/funny-p...)
Serkan Unsal, Tyson Key, Brad Arsenault and 4 other people liked this
Oooh... late breakfast?
- Adrian
Oh mai. This image makes my sweet tooth ache with delight.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Yup looks yummy to me.. :o)
- David Gross
from email
Is that ..... a s'more keyboard????????
- Martha
Our Mac Chromium Updater: Stay Up To Date On The Best Versions Of Chrome For Mac - http://www.feedhub.com/iris...
Nolan Alston, Vinny, JR Holmes and 3 other people liked this
Thanks so much for pointing to this. I was interested in looking at Chromium more, but the daily versions seemed so much better than the old snapshot and I was too lazy to manually check that frequently.
- JR Holmes
On this day in 1996, Microsoft released Internet Explorer 3.0
Brad Arsenault, John Ladd and nonsleepr liked this
Mount Rushmore as seen from Canada.
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, Daniele, Roberto Orsini and 414 other people liked this
HAHAHAHA
- Admiral Anika
Fair trade for them getting the good view of Niagara Falls I'd say.
- invariant - farewell FF
frickin sweet!
- BEX
LOL
- Tibor Holoda
Yup that's exactly what it looks like from here.
- Barry Sanschagrin
ROFL
- Ethan
So where exactly did Nicholas Cage enter to find the treasure?
- Geoff Schultz
LOL! too funny.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
LOL
- Roberto Bonini
Heh. B. Kliban did a cartoon of this with their pants down. Good job on this, tho :-)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
hahaha, that's funny!
- freedom fighter mom
from twhirl
What? There's another view? Please post.
- Ken Morley
I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere...
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Hahaha. Awesome sight for 'em Canadians!
- Santosh
face down and ass in the air! Love it!
- John Hillestad
Cool, except anybody who's been to Mount Rushmore knows it faces east! So really this is the view from Wyoming.
- Ben Hanten
Ben: Americans have never been known to have a sense of direction.
- l0ckergn0me
Hilarious :-D
- Ace
I literally LOL'd.
- Mike Cefalo
Sarah Palin sees this from the other side of her house.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
awesome
- Nick Humphries
I lol´d.
- Jens Christian Freund
ahahahahahahah
- Adriano Mercurio
LMAO! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
lol ... yup that's just what we see from Canada ... a bunch of asses
- jay macpherson
Well played, jay. Well played.
- Jason Huebel
*access memory: Braveheart battle scene*
- Mo Kargas
Too funny!
- Mark Harai
Haha... I LOL'ed for real too.
- Barbara
wiping away tears. rofl
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
+1 Jay (not really true, but still very funny :o)
- Ken Morley
Hay I am Canadian !.....giggle
- hollyseven
How did I miss this?! HAHA
- Mona Nomura
I think somebody has a wedgie!
- CAJ, somewhere else
The view from Canada is the rock on the left & Lincoln's shoes.
- Wade Dorrell
that is epic. ;)
- Philip "dmouse" Campbell
Hilarious! :)
- Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom
Awesome!
- Timothy Federwitz
hahahaha wtf
- tohuko
That's priceless.
- Todd Libby
Teddy has a nice butt =p
- LouCypher
where do you get this stuff from - Frank loves it
- Kathi Barrett
That is brilliant. B3TA or somewhere similar?
- dannystaple
Hahahah! Mount Rushmore as seen from Canada.
- KyNam Doan
haha ace babes xx
- abigailashleawhitaker
This is an old pic, but is still always funny to see. :)
- John Pyper
13-year-old gives up his iPod for a walkman - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
Alfredo, Sidharth Dassani, Tobi and 69 other people liked this
"It took me three days to figure out that there was another side to the tape. That was not the only naive mistake that I made; I mistook the metal/normal switch on the Walkman for a genre-specific equaliser, but later I discovered that it was in fact used to switch between two different types of cassette."
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
LOL Wow, never thought that these issues could arise. Laughing at the metal/normal switch.
- Admiral Anika
Impressive use of the semi-colon for a 13-year-old.
- Jasmin Patry
I remember when these first hit our shores... i reckon summer of '79, i was selling clothes in the Village and some very stylish Europeans and Asians were coming thru the City sporting them. We thought it was half magical half Martian.
- Thom Kennon
i have a sony walkman that was manufactured in the 90s that i still use. my first was a panasonic from the early 80s. i don't remember a time where i left home without it.
- docrivs
Yeah @docrivs, and who here thinks their current MP3 player will still be working in ten years? ;)
- Joel Bennett
:)
- edythe
"I'm relieved that the majority of technological advancement happened before I was born" -- I hope that's not true.
- Seth
+++Seth
- Admiral Anika
Yeah, I remember the exact moment in 1980 when a jetplane landed on an aircraft carrier inside my head!
- ianf ⌘
Oh, my...I feel old!
- Scott of Two Countries
I used to wonder why there was a special switch for 'Dolby Noise Reduction'. How are you supposed to rock out to 'She Blinded Me with Science' if you turn it down??
- Kevin Fox
I still have one of these which is made in black plastic, shorter-but-thicker, and has a built in record function and speaker. I still use it, too. To record and play back. I don't know what this kid was doing with his walkman, but in mine the batteries last for 5 hours.
- Miss Elle
I still have a Sony Sports Walkman (a bright yellow water-proof one) that I think about retro-fitting to hold an iPod one day for fun.
- Jason Shellen
I always thought it would be a great idea to build an MP3 player in the shape of a cassette. You could pop it into your car's cassette player just like a cassette adapter. FFW and REW would skip tracks, 'Reverse' would shuffle, and the whole thing would be powered/charged by the constant winding. Sadly, I think the window for such a crossover product may have passed.
- Kevin Fox
Hilarious. I think I still have one in a box somewhere. XD
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
@Kevin Fox -- They did have cassette thingies with a plug that went into the earphones jack of another device. Originally entitled "car adapter kits" they were intended for Discmen, but worked just as well for fauxPods. || Oh, and your dream has been realized --> http://www.chinavasion.com/product...
- Miss Elle
Wait, this isn't The Onion. That makes it even funnier. >.<
- Jason Huebel
definately the article of the day, totally made mine
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Elle, I know (in fact I use one in my car, connected to a portable Sirius satellite radio reciever) but a fully self-contained player would be pretty cool.
- Kevin Fox
ARghh I'm old, I know how to use a walkman...
- David Foucher
Tempted to buy a nice Walkman off of eBay and bust out some cassettes.
- Jonathan Terleski
Still have an AIWA player around somewhere. Had actually better sound than the Sony. Ah, the nostalgia.
- Max
you can still buy a Walkman cassette player at Best Buy today -- did so not too long ago to transfer a recording to MP3. they are kind of making the cassette sound like an Edison wax cylinder or something. kids today!
- Karim
LOL, well written article, I'll have to try this with my kids. My Sports Walkman though was super advanced as it had Auto-Reverse. I'm sure that would have confused the heck out of this kid as he searched for the repeat button.
- Kenton
@Kevin That link from @Elle *is* for a self-contained MP3-player-in-a-cassette. Me, I'm waiting for the 8-track version.
- Richard Chen
I have a friend with an adapter to play cassettes in her 8-track player. I wonder how that would do with the mp3-player-in-a-cassette in it.
- April Russo (app103)
I really need everybody who knows me, personally or professionally, to read this: http://chris.pirillo.com/persona... [Thank you.]
Thierry R. Andriamirado, Cibeles, MVB (Grinch of FF) and 51 other people liked this
Of course there's nothing to like about this, but I wish you both the best! Love and hugs to both of you.
- Leo Laporte
:( {{hugs}}
- pea
I'm sorry, Chris.
- Admiral Anika
You have my full sympathy, and compliments for a very brave post.
- Stephen Mack
Like Leo said, wishing you both the best as you transition into this new phase -- both personally and professionally. Your contributions to the community are amazing and I hope you continue to push forward enriching the lives of geeks and non geeks alike across teh tubes and internets.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Nothing more to add to Leo's comment. All the best to both of you!
- Holger Eilhard
Sorry to hear of this, but you do what you must for the both of you to be happy.
- JA Castillo
All the best to both of you! :)
- TheHenry
change can be good sometimes, best of luck to both of u
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sorry to hear, but hopefully a start of a new day Chris
- Jorge Escobar
+1 on JA's comment.
- Patrick Jordan
All the best to both of you and thanks for having the guts and dignity to share what must be a painful, personal experience.
- WorldofHiglet
Sorry to hear it Chris. Never an easy process.
- Nathan Chase
I'm sorry to hear this Chris. *hugs*
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Well, I don't know you personally or professionally, but, I'm still sorry you are hurting. Hoping you two are able to get through this amicably.
- Yolanda
Ponzi and you are in my prayers.
- ChiliMac
I cannot add anything more to Yolanda's comment, so I'll simply say that I echo it.
- Miss Elle
Sorry, Chris.
- Hao Chen
Sorry dude :(
- Rodfather
Sorry to hear Chris. I hope everything is ok and wish you the best during this difficult time.
- Mark Krynsky
Sorry to hear that, Chris. :(
- Michael McKean
My condolences, Chris. As a long-time community member, I must credit you to share this information. It's never easy going through this kind of thing, but I hope all turns out well.
- David Ford
Sad to hear this; hope everything works out for you both.
- Andrew Terry
Handle your business, Chris.
- Derrick
Best of luck to you both. See you on the other side man.
- Carlos Ayala
Take care of yourself Chris. I am sorry.
- Kamath (नमः)
Good luck, dude
- Andrew
Chris, there's no formula for how to handle the public side of this, but your post seemed sufficient and decent. All the best (to everyone involved) during this difficult time.
- Micah Wittman
Whoa, so sorry ot hear that Chris. Damn.
- Josh Haley
you're still a healthy good looking if a little quirky fella - you've got plenty of relationships to look forward to :)
- Zee.
I wish you both the best, whatever happens. You've always come across as a strong guy, and your community will always be there to support you.
- deakaz
Love and support to both of you.
- Robert Scoble
wishing both of you the best always.
- Kim Landwehr
Chris, you know I'm a friend for life. I wish the best for you both.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I'm sorry for you both. Can't be easy.
- Christian Burns
I'm so sorry for you both. It's never an easy thing; harder still to say it in public. My best wishes go with you both.
- Karoli
I dont know you nor a personal or professional , but u make me laught, learn, buy and seeing u for so many time in youtube and the stream , you are one of my best friends without knowing you Theres nothing i can say about this, but if it helps, U know we all love you too . PEACE Chris ps, sorry 4 my bad english
- elefantastico
See ya at Gnomedex Chris, any support needed and we're here for you.
- Greg Birch
:-( I'm sorry, Chris. Warm thoughts and hugs to both of you.
- Ladybug Heather
Guess it's finally time for us to get drunk and hug awkwardly.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wow. Not much to add other than sorry to hear because I know it has to have been a rough time making that decision and then going through with it. Good luck to both of you. I hope things look up from here.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Sorry to hear about that, good luck, I am sure it is very difficult to go through.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Sorry to hear about that, Chris.
- Derek Coward
Ah man,that sucks. hope all goes well for you chris good luck.
- pcguru626
Luckily you have plenty of support ready at a moments notice.
- Pete Delucchi
I'm so sorry to hear about this Chris. All the best.
- Lloyd Hannesson
Thanks for this post...thinking warm throughts for you.
- susan mernit
Thank you for sharing your dark moments with us in addition to your bright ones. My best to you both. Marriage is not easy.
- Francine Hardaway
Majorly saddened to hear both of you. But things and people change, it's a natural part of life.
- Robbie Steele
Really sorry to hear that, Chris. I'm sure it's tough on you both. Best of luck to the two of you in your future personal endeavors.
- Josh McConnell
sorry to hear that man
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Sad to hear the news. Best wishes to you and Ponzi.
- Mike Lewis
:(
- Valley
good luck!
- Thomas Hawk
Do what's best for the both of you
- Cassidy
:(
- timepilot
Life happens. Best of luck to you, Chris.
- Laura Norvig
{{{{ HHHHUUUUUGGGG}}}}}
- Susan Beebe
Take things one day, one step, even one BREATH at a time. You will make it, Chris!
- Now Voyager
I went through this last year - it's not easy, and it's an emotional roller coaster, but you have to believe that happiness and peace lies on the other side. Best of luck.
- Iain Baker
Perhaps consoling (I hope) http://www.chimehosting.com/moonali...
- HelloHealthy
Goodluck Chris
- Steve Allen
Good luck bud
- Jeremiah Owyang
Best of luck. I hope that new opportunities open quickly for you after this door closes and that you find yourself in a better place.
- Martha
Best of luck Chris!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Chris, just saw this - it's never good news. I wish you the best and stay positive!
- Jesse Stay
Well, that sucks.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
That's the new hawtness!
- Alex Scoble
wow
- michael sean wright
whoa!
- vijay
SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA
- Josh Haley
Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
the game just changed
- chrisofspades
Haha! Nice...
- WorldofHiglet
nice
- endiaferon
This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list.
- Kol Tregaskes
Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint...
- sean andersen
Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again.
- Kol Tregaskes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit?
- Frankie Warren
this has awesomesauce all over it
- Alfredo
is video an option?
- Zee.
We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff.
- Bret Taylor
Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication?
- Mark Trapp
No video at the moment, Zee.
- Ross Miller
Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com?
- chrisofspades
So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox>
- nickrw
nice!
- Mike Bracco
So, no BluRay rips, then :p
- Josh Haley
Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable).
- Bret Taylor
Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect.
- Bret Taylor
Very Nice
- Brent - Loving Life
neat-o!
- t i n y m
Bret - is music an option?
- Zee.
WIN
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Any other files that don't work with it?
- Kol Tregaskes
What's the file attachment size limit?
- imabonehead
Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that?
- Frankie Warren
@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff."
- Dan Hsiao
@Dan, thx
- imabonehead
Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported
- Dan Hsiao
Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above.
- Kol Tregaskes
MP3s?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day).
- Bret Taylor
Yay, no more rapidshare! :)
- Kaan Ertürk
OK, but any format?
- Kol Tregaskes
I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me]
- Philipp Lenssen
Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL, Tina.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tina++, Holy Crap! :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...
- Alfredo
Bret: What about attachments to comments?
- sean andersen
Swwwweeeettttt!!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Greatissimo :)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw?
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server?
- Frankie Warren
Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock.
- Mitch
Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images?
- Kol Tregaskes
Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :)
- Carlos Ayala
I think you can support them by buying the FF swags.
- imabonehead
cool
- Siavash
and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY
- chrisofspades
NIIIIIIIIIIICE
- Pedram
Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :)
- JA Castillo
JA, agree.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, cool. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code.
- imabonehead
mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry, yep MP3s are supported.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind.
- Mike Elliott
Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood.
- JA Castillo
Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?!
- JA Castillo
If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it).
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool stuff
- Tyson Key
Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest?
- Tyson Key
Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition!
- Holger Eilhard
NaFFster! :)
- jcunwired
Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;)
- Tyson Key
this is GREAT!
- Cee Bee
Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1..
- Daniel Sims
Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :)
- Victor Ganata
Hey Bret, are these virus-checked?
- Jordan Hofker
@Jordan - good question
- andy brudtkuhl
Jordan, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
The moment I read this I updated my AV program.
- jcunwired
Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type?
- Cliff Gerrish
Jordan- yes, we virus scan them.
- Casey Muller
Cool, Casey. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome, thanks Casey.
- Jordan Hofker
Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time.
- Casey Muller
Haha, Victor. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit?
- Jordan Hofker
search by file type?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jordan - what is **AA's ??
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's.
- Gil Francisco III
This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community.
- Johnny
Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;)
- Frankie Warren
Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky.
- Jordan Hofker
Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea?
- Jason Nunnelley
.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line?
- Christopher Harley
How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc.
- Nathan Chase
Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment."
- Ross Miller
\m/
- metalerik
abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love**
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Jason, I might be with you on this one.
- Johnny
This is nice! Very nice!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Yippie-kai-yay :))))
- A.T.
Thanks, Ross. The paid app, iProRecorder http://www.iprorecorder.com/ suffers the same limitations.
- Christopher Harley
NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :)
- Dilip Dand
Very Cool !!!
- Eric Logan
I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato.
- Miss Elle
Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target?
- Travis Koger
@ Travis: I was just wondering the same.
- Brian Chang
Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message?
- Jason Nunnelley
"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler.
- Christopher Harley
seriously useful.
- Calvin Ayre
I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred.
- Jimminy Fuller
Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users?
- Fleagle
this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done!
- K.D.
that is AWESOME!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks.
- Jimminy Fuller
Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work!
- michael silverton
Kudos on the added features!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。
- 老巫师
哇塞，这个强的。 I like it.
- xiawinter
Wow. Just wow. Thanks.
- Laura Norvig
NICE! Thanks for the info.
- Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom
Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>.
- ianf ⌘
Oh, very awesome!
- Scott Magdalein
It's *machine code*.
- Karl Knechtel
Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy...
- Jimminy Fuller
Excellent! Thank you!
- Diego Barros
"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...)
- Ozkan Altuner
Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool!
- Ozkan Altuner
Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Must you force downloads on HTML files?
- Raphael, Raphael
This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity.
- Rick Cogley
Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start.
- Ubuntu101
Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast?
- Ubuntu101
Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit??
- Chris Loft
embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net)
- Raphael, Raphael
Thx! FF continues to rock :)
- Krishnamoorthy
why the limit on audio files?
- Tyler Gillies
Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format...
- Tyson Key
Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far.
- Tyson Key
wow :)
- Mucio
I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more?
- Dnl
anyone know the file size limit?
- Julian Seery Gude
My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
- Micah Wittman
FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means...
- Mitch
*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :)
- Susan Beebe
oh heck yes
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-(
- April Russo (app103)
LOL at the FF secret plans.pdf!!
- Darren Heydon
Cell Phone Execs Will Face Questions On Text Messaging Price Hikes | NEWS JUNKIE - http://mynewsjunkie.com/2009...
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Those cell phone companies will have a lot of explaining to do Tuesday when they testify at a U.S. Senate committee hearing on rising text messaging costs. Representatives from Verizon, AT&T, and Cricket will be faced with questions on why those short 160 character SMS messages are costing the consumer too much.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I believe it was you who reported that based on AT&T's text messaging fee SMS messages cost consumers somewhere around $1500 per MB of data?
- jcunwired
The painful pricing structure of these companies is why I don't really use my cell phone for anything more than the occasional call. I'm not prepared to risk the assorted extra charges that come with SMS, or web use.
- Eoghann Irving
any guesses on what they say will be the reason for these prices ?
- Kashif Khan
http://mobilejones.com/2007... My article on SMS charging hit the front page of digg in 2007. The high cost of SMS has been a known in the mobile industry for a long time. I remember being shocked that many of my web friends hadn't thought of the costs per MB,
- Debi Jones
Not only do they charge absurd prices, but most don't even include texting in the unlimited data plans. I pay 30 dollars a month for iPhone data and pay 15 more on top of that for 1500 texts. THat is outrageous.
- Grant
Interesting that they are questioning Cricket at the same time as the larger carriers. We have Cricket here and they offer unlimited calling including unlimited text messaging for only $40/month. Maybe they want to know why Cricket can offer reasonable pricing while the larger, national carriers continue to gouge their customers.
- Joshua Blevins
They should also be grilled about the cost of data plans.
- Kashif Khan
I don't use text messaging, so I don't have it on my iPhone. That saves me $20 every month. A small victory!
- Paul Ring
I don't have texting either, but got stuck paying 60 cents for two porn spam messages!
- Sandy Curry
I could be wrong, but I thought the reason SMS was so expensive was because they want to discourage people from using it, since texts can saturate the network. You can't really compare it to email, because SMS works like a phone call and doesn't use the data connection.
- Daniel Sims
SMS does use the control channel, but that's it. It doesn't really saturate the network since it doesn't create a connection like an actual phone call. It's a 1-way message and it's not a guaranteed receipt either. Oh, and those that actually look at the cost per MB are incorrect since it's that channel itself isn't used in the same fashion as data connections. SMS uses control channel...
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- Ben Hwang
You have to pay to receive SMS? Which Dodo brain though of that one? There would be a revolt in Europe if they tried that!
- David Wright
from twhirl
New Zealand has two networks, one gives 500/1000 texts 'free' for $10. the other gives free weekends if you spend a certain amount during the week.
- Robbie Steele
actually there are that kind of things in Europe. Some service providers (ringtones for example) may charge your phone bill by sending SMS. You can for exmple have a monthly subscription for ringtones and they are charging you by sending two SMSes. This is ofcourse problematic, as the consumer can not easily deny from paying and in a case of dispute the operator stands in between.
- Jani Kenttälä
from IM
True, but those are subscription services, not "normal" SMS messages.
- David Wright
from twhirl
@Ben: If the SMS uses the control channel, which is in use and always active anyway, why should there even be a charge for SMS? The network infrastructure is already there, so really the extra data does not make an impact.
- Nils Sandin
On an additional point, as mentioned above, regular incoming SMS are not charged in Europe (unless roaming abroad), and outbound SMS can cost as little as 0.09€ (13 cents) on a pre-paid plan (w/o commitment for 500 or 1000 messages you might never use).
- Nils Sandin
It's called Capitalism. No government intervention necessary. If the consumer doesn't like it, they should stop paying for it. In other words, move to a company that doesn't charge so much or stop using the service. The market will then be forced to change.
- Chad McCoskey
Chad, because of that system we also have the most primitive cell phone networks and system in the 1st world. Unfettered capitalism isn't always what's best.
- Chrimmus Tad
from fftogo
I think that's part of the problem -- they've all raised their prices at once, so there's no alternative provider. I used to have a sensible option in the US which didn't charge me for incoming messages, but that's been long gone.
- John Flinchbaugh
from IM
I mentioned the Pre but I think I got away with it!
- Kevin J Hatton
Chad, since the government sells the spectrum licences, they can put some restrictions. Do you remember that http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007...?
- Jérôme Flipo
Tad, so what? We forget that cell service and a whole host of other things we take for granted now are luxuries not necessities. I love my iPhone but if I felt the prices weren't acceptable or if another option was better either a phone or pricing plan, I'd go there. My point is that it's all well and good to complain, but protest with what companies value most: your money.
- Chad McCoskey
Chad, can you list necessities, beyond air, water, food and security? The issues at stake are the four characteristics of the market http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and the government role in preventing tacit collusion. Also, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....
- Jérôme Flipo
Jerome, you're right about the necessities which is exactly my point. We don't all "deserve" high quality cell service for free and in the case of a non necessity, if all companies offering that product charge the same amount then maybe the populace should decide if they should really spend their money on it. If you don't like the cost of text messages then don't use the service and if the majority of people does that companies will either stop the service or lower prices.
- Chad McCoskey
I have an iPhone with no text plan because they are obscenely priced. I'm not happy about $25/mo for unlimited data but I'm doing my best to get my money's worth. I'll just call or send an email rather than pay $.50 for a text
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Daniel, thank you for proving my point. More people should follow suit if they don't like the cost. By the way, I have text on my phone and make sure I don't go over my limit.
- Chad McCoskey
Oh hi TweetDeck... it's been a while. That darned Tweetie seduced me.
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mmm native ;)
- Frankie Warren
Hmm, I wonder if they're going to add push notifications...
- Bwana ☠
I mean come on...gotta have that
- Bwana ☠
are you talking about the iphone now? that could get intense (tweetie doesn't support groups), but i hope it happens.... I was wondering if someone could come up with a bbm like service that utilizes push notifications.
- Frankie Warren
Yeah I switched gears to the iPhone version...
- Bwana ☠
Group sync is a killer feature
- Bwana ☠
I think more killer than multiple accounts
- Bwana ☠
OH!!! tweetdeck is available on iphone! i thought it was still in the kevin rose bragging release :)
- Frankie Warren
I.B.M. Withdraws $7 Billion Offer for Sun Microsystems - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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"After weeks of negotiations, I.B.M. withdrew its $7 billion bid for Sun Microsystems on Sunday, one day after Sun’s board balked at a reduced offer, according to three people close to the talks. ... After the legal review, I.B.M. shaved its offer Saturday from $9.55 a share, the offer on the table late last week, to $9.40 a share, said one person familiar with the talks. The offer was presented to Sun’s board on Saturday, and it balked. The Sun board did not reject the offer outright, but wanted certain guarantees that the I.B.M. side considered “onerous,” according to that person."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
By my reckoning, IBM reduced its offer to Sun twice. You can't reduce an offer twice, and retain any credibility as a serious buyer. So IBM will have lost its credibility with Sun's Board - which includes Sun's largest shareholders. That means it's not Sun's management rejecting IBM - it's Sun's shareholders rejecting IBM. Either IBM did this because it didn't really want to do the deal; or IBM is not used to doing deals where it needs to behave in a credible way.
- Simon Brocklehurst
This sounds like what happened with the Apple deal in the '90s.
- Gabe
Simon - that was my thought. This price thing is more indicative of cold feet.
- Hutch Carpenter
Like for relevance. Dislike for content. I think the IBM deal would have been good for Sun, and kept its Java IP in reasonably competent hands. Plus, I hate navigating Sun's web pages; it's sad to say that IBM's are actually better :P
- Joel Webber
Sorry, Joel, but I can't think of any company that was really better off after being acquired by IBM. Rolm? Lotus? Rational? Informix? No on all counts.
- Gabe
@Gabe: Well, maybe you're right about that (I was an intern at Lotus during the IBM acquisition, and people were leaving like rats off a sinking ship). I'm thinking more of what's good for those of us who care what happens to Java. I know most of it's open in one way or another at this point, but it could still use good technical leadership, and I don't really see Sun doing that so much anymore.
- Joel Webber
+1 @Joel. And some of the alternatitives are pretty bad - Imagine Dell owning Sun. Hewlett Packard (or Cisco) have got no idea how to do software.
- Nick Lothian
I like it that IBM and Sun still remain as separate entities.
- Winston Teo
Joel, the problem is that IBM is not technically competent. That IBM people think SWT is a good idea demonstrates they don't even understand the problems, let alone have any ability to figure out high-quality solutions. People tend to confuse IBM's super strong sales and business development capability for it having strong technical ability. IBM's business model is such that the weaker its staff are technically, and the worse its software, the more money it makes. Clever stuff, business-wise.
- Simon Brocklehurst
@Simon - does Sun have alternatives? (Also - it's not like Swing or JavaFX give me huge confidence in Sun sometimes...)
- Nick Lothian
Nick, there's always a "Plan B". In the event of no buyers, Sun can do massive layoffs to return to profitability. If Sun cut enough to have $1B in annual profits, market cap would be higher than IBM's offer, which would provide a better exit for major shareholders. More than possible to do this, given Sun's annual R&D budget is $2B. Re: JavaFX - it's at least modern in concept; SWT is a flawed idea, that was known to be flawed (by everyone except IBM) more than a decade ago.
- Simon Brocklehurst
@Simon - there are other things Sun could do to make a short term return to profits, too eg, try and moneterise Java more aggressively,drop the software business and become a patent troll, etc, etc. I'm not sure any would be good for Java.
- Nick Lothian
@NIck - well, several parts of Sun's software business, including Java, are profitable currently. No need to drop these if they look like staying profitable. The trick is to cut the overhead (under-performing middle managers, sales people that can't sell etc.); and cut the R&D to a size that reflects the size of the business today. I'm not sure growing the top-line in the short-term is realistic in the current economy. A return to profitability, though, should be possible.
- Simon Brocklehurst
when you pull the piece of gum out of the pack it snaps on your fingers like the gum trick.
- rob friedman
from twhirl
@Simon: I really don't want to turn this into an SWT/Swing argument, as I feel like they both suck for various reasons. But I don't think it's fair to say that SWT is proof that IBM lacks technical competence (From my limited experience, IBM's technical competence varies a lot among different groups within the company).
- Joel Webber
With SWT, they wanted to solve a specific problem very well from an end-user's perspective -- i.e. it should feel like a native app, and be fast. And they did so quite well, IMHO, even though it sucks to have to use all those native libraries and platform-specific jars. But the Eclipse UI still feels a lot better to me than IntelliJ, and I think SWT's the reason (obviously this is a matter of opinion, but I know plenty of people who far prefer a SWT UI, so it's at least open to debate).
- Joel Webber
Sorry, Sun
- Jayavasanthan J
Paul are you going to buy Sun?
- Shakeel Mahate
I never understood why IBM would want to buy Sun other than that it was cheap. Obviously they decided it wasn't cheap enough.
- Kenton
Glad I didn't buy any Sun stock.
- John Flynn
@Joel, you're right - it doesn't prove it; rather I think it illustrates it And clearly, it would be overstating things to say the *whole* of IBM is technically incompetent. However, there are *many*, *many* weak people there. Everyone I meet that has dealt with IBM - customers, collaborators, competitors - has stories to tell; and almost none are positive in terms of technical capability. Conversely, everyone is impressed by its ability to win business and put dollars in the bank.
- Simon Brocklehurst
Didn't we see this coming?
- Brad Arsenault
Wow, how did we not all see this coming. What is IBM going to do with Sun? Just purchase Java from them, not all of Sun.
- Zachary TG
Ordered HDMI->Ethernet baluns for my Mac mini home-theater PC. Gonna put the whole thing in another room (with the cable box and broadband).
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Please give us details on the build!
- Joseph Skerbec
I'm doing a talk on MacMania 9. Come and see it! ;-) I'll write up a series of blog posts but so far: Mac Mini, Eye TV HD 250 <http://elgato.com>, Plex/XBMC/Boxee, ZephIR <http://www.thezephir.com/ZephIR...> to control the cable box from EyeTV, Ethernet Baluns from Octava <http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI%20...>
- Leo Laporte
I want a mac mini for my home theater since I don't have cable. I wanna watch netflix and hulu and listen to my music over the main speaker. sigh but I just bought my macbook. I keep wanting more! Leo, I'm jealous!
- Lise
This all started because I was fed up with the AppleTV. But it's ending up costing considerably more.
- Leo Laporte
Shouldn't the mac mini have HDMI by now??
- Christopher Taylor
It has DVI - easy enough to convert.
- Leo Laporte
you should have gotten the minidisplayport adaptor to HDMI monoprice sells it
- Comptr
Every computer has gigabit ethernet, and circuits are cheap. Always wished that graphics and sound cards included them for distribution
- Keith Barrett
Man, I was wanting to buy the AppleTV. what didn't work for you?
- Jim Williams
It's underpowered and it seems to freeze up a lot. I want to be able to do more, too.
- Leo Laporte
leo can you give us a review on the HDMI to ethernet adaptor when you get it. I have been in the market for one.
- Comptr
Leo, can a solo core run this system or do you think a new mini is requisite?
- Jason L Berman
Definitely looking forward to the full details on your blog.
- Mike Dotta
Sorry, changing this post (it's my first post here). The feeds go down, like a book, not up like a blog! doh! Anyway, I have no powering problems with my Apple TV and no freezes. Both the music and movies sound great on the Bose system! I wish I could set the Apple TV as a wireless base...
- Jay
Wii Remote, RemoteBuddy and Mac Mini = HTPC bliss.
- Jack Zimmermann
I really like Gefen stuff...I like how they seem to build no-compromises full force stuff. How are you going to remote control the Mini? With a hackintosh running Screensharing/ARD? ;)
- Mike Ma
Why not use a Harmony? I've been using a Harmony 880 with my macbook pro (dvi -> hdmi, toslink adaptor to receiver), and it controls everything, including front row, boxee, itunes, not to mention the tv and audio.
- Paul Ward
aah just what the doctor ordered, is there something which also extends the TOS link for sound?
- Jebu Ittiachen
A Vista Media Center computer and an XBox will give you HDMI and a whole lot more functionality, like cable card, dvr, etc. Windows 7 MCE is even cooler. I install this setup all the time for customers.
- Mike
any recommendations on a MCE config. I attempted to put together one with old hardware PVR-150, MCE XP, everything worked except IR Blaster with DirectTV STB (D11-500). Couldnt find a ir code that would work and MCE would not recognize the IR Blaster
- Mike McCrary
Check the Htguys podcast. They just did an update on the new macmini as a home theater component. I believe it was two weeks ago.
- james
@Mike McCrary, did you give thegreenbutton.com a try http://thegreenbutton.com/search...? Are you using a USB MCE remote with a green MCE button on it? Connect the MCE USB IR recvr to the PC, then connect an IR bug from the IR recvr to the DirecTV box. Now all you need is the codes. You can use a Global Cache IR reader to read the codes from the DirecTV remote then program the MCE remote.
- Mike
I wonder if he was inspired after the caller from last weekend needed one for his school?
- OFU
Looking forward to the information on the final build
- Kim Landwehr
Check this out on the mac mini - http://digg.com/d1liGy
- OttoMate
Baluns came. Require dual CAT-6 cables for 1080p. I don't Jennifer is going to like this.
- Leo Laporte
Will you be using Boxee? XBMC? Do tell.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I'm planning on trying Boxee, XBMC, and Plex - although Front Row with the EyeTV plugin (PyeTV) is also tempting.
- Leo Laporte
Are there any problems with HDCP data over ethernet?
- jcunwired
I could not get into Plex after using Boxee. The interface for Boxee works better but Plex looks nicer. I just wish Boxee would implement UPnP for my PS3 like Plex can.
- Mark Ogley
I skipped the AppleTV and went right for the Mini, more expensive but haven't looked back. Jumping out to use Safari (with zoom) on a plasma TV is great, especially for community surfing with friends and family. I tried Plex, Boxee, XBMC. Like Boxee features but keep going back to Plex - it just looks so much better.
- James Nobes
Building a linux htpc based on ubuntu, running xbmc, maybe boxee, whichever ends up being better. Looking for ideas on a remote control. Any takers?
- Josh Haley
I'm also putting together an htpc. I'm a Linux guy, but I keeping considering a Mac Mini because most of the software I have in mind runs on either. I ma end up with a Linux backend and a mac mini front-end
- Keith Barrett
My Ubuntu MythTV backend and Mini frontend works well
- James Nobes
geeeeeeeek!!! :)
- Susan Beebe
To people who say the new Friendfeed real-time feed is too fast: follow fewer people. Or use filters more. Real time = real life.
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It's all about the filters ... but most people wont set them up. The system needs to be smart enough to know.
- Jason Goldberg
To people who say I should follow fewer people: if I can have a conversation with one person in a stadium filled with tens of thousands, I should be able to do the same thing on a webservice where I follow only 1300. Not to mention using filters implies that I know today the interesting and compelling content that others will post tomorrow. Again, just how I use the service. Others may use it differently.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We should be ab le to filter on the fly... that would help.
- Wolfman-K
Following fewer people reduces the usefulness of the service. Filters might be a good way of handling things, but how do I know they aren't filtering out things that I'd actually want to see?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This is one of the things that's so appealing about the new FF: with filters, I can see in real-time the stuff I *want* to know about as soon as it happens, and peruse the rest as I feel like it.
- Ryan Waldron
Real life.. I see that phrase often in games like WoW and RoM. I prefer the virtual version :)
- Michele
I'm not sure I appreciate the added value of the beta design, particularly in light of the additional management and time it's going to take me to get it right. The current design has flaws (such as content updating out from underneath you when visiting a link) that are further amplified in the new design. There must be a way to address the update and management issues.
- Loren Heiny
The new friendfeed is like talking on a party - to all people at the same time. I feel like a social juggler.
- Dan van Moll
Loren: The link issue could be solved by Paul & co. stealing the Diggbar from under Kevin Rose's nose.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Perhaps they should add settings like Twitterfall has...
- Cris McRae
I am still learning how to use it myself, but I training myself
- Ike
What do you think about the new Friendfeed User Interface? See the poll: http://twtpoll.com/q68d2y
- Yaron Orenstein
I've said it elsewhere, the more people you follow, the more of a need there is for filtering. It's not a preference, it's essential. It's true in Twitter, it's true in Friendfeed, it's true in email, it's true in Facebook. If you refuse to use the tools they have given you to manage the noise, then you have to deal with the it's design. That's your choice.
- Bwana ☠
Just heard on Cnet BuzzOutLoud (http://bol.cnet.com/) that it may not be visible to everyone yet. See http://beta.friendfeed.com/ and see if you experience the new features.
- Andy Pflueger
I'm pretty sure I don't have 300—let alone 3—people in real life constantly telling me every single thing they do and create in real time. ;) They send me an e-mail, a tweet, or I catch up on their activity in my Flickr contacts list on my own time. This is a very different and interesting shift for social media.
- David Chartier
Mine's not moving fast at all. I suppose I wasn't using it to it's full capacity before... :-\
- David Wynn
Bwana: Filtering isn't the panacea you're making it out to be. There's a reason I follow the people and topics I do, and if I filter them out just to save some peace of mind, I might as well just unfollow them entirely.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Looking for a good filter tutorial link. Anyone?
- Trevor Childs
Subscribe to Bwana he has some good filter examples.
- Jared B. Luther
Yet another person who tells me that, in order to use FF, I need to change my behavior.
- Mistletoe Glen
No way I'm following fewer people. The more I follow, the more fun I have here. So far, not too fast for me. We'll see tonight when it hits prime time.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, I still have lists and I can pause the updates, so I can use it however I like. It's definitely fun! I'll be using Friendfeed more, I'd wager, with the new interface. I actually feel less inundated, since I have nifty filtering. I'll be able to follow a lot more people!
- jojo, adventurer
Jason Goldberg: "The system needs to be smart enough to know." Forget lists and filters. Smart automated recommender systems are the future of social media. Why isn't Friendfeed leading the way?
- Sean McBride
Umm no, this is not real life.
- Corvida
Since when is it the user's fault when the user interface doesn't work as expected?
- Albert Willis
To people who say you should filter more for getting the real life: they should get out of their geek-holes and understand what it is to make choices for real life persons. :p
- Ton Zijp
I think the beta is awesome. Looks great on my iPhone in landscape mode.
- Steve Sill
i don't agree with the premise that because real time = real life folks should be able to keep up with their interests by scaling down their activity or number of people they happen to follow on a site like this. that's a nice simple thing to write, but it's certainly not practical if you're looking to interact with people on friendfeed. it's sites like these that afford all kinds of info to be exchanged among all kinds of people -- much more than in "real life." if the point of exchanging information lies
- Cee Bee
How about having less followers? I don't understand this kind of maths really. If everyone starts following less people just to use a "tool", your own voice won't be noticed. I'll follow everyone I think he/she could bring more knowledge/fun to me and it'll be up to the tool to satisfy my needs, not the opposite
- directeur
with a few people what's the point of being on a site like ff?
- Cee Bee
There's a live back channel for the Gillmor Gang Leo's streaming right now at http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...
- Ken Sheppardson
Indeed, _very_ aggressive "hide" and "unsubscribe" are at least turning FF's "river of shit" UI a bit more palatable.
- Dossy Shiobara
Don't make ME fix your problems. If it's too fast, it's too fast, and FF will have to live with the consequences.
- Mistletoe Glen
In real-life, I don't have 1000 friends. And Leo, we're not friends in RL, right?
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I asked yesterday how anyone actually kept up with hundreds of people on twitter. Never got a response, so I figure people actually don't.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
People mostly use Twitter as a bullhorn; I doubt that many feeds are being read very carefully.
- Sean McBride
or just hit pause. it's not that big of a deal. you just hit refresh like you always have.
- Nathan Chase
Agree with Tina. Filtering for topics implies a preset agenda of interests which makes it much less interesting. And if real life was so great more people would live there :-)
- Todd Hoff
I didn't even know there are filters. They could make it easier to notice and use like put a filter button there on the page. Or explain that you can do that and how to do it.
- Nathan Mylott
It's not a matter of telling you HOW to use something, it's a matter of telling what's available to help you DEAL with data overload. Lists and Filters are there to help consume the data in a manner which is pleasurable. It's not the only way to use FF, but it's something to ADD to your existing way of using the tool to make it better. I realize not everyone uses the tool like I do, but the features I talk about are there to HELP you manage the madness.
- Bwana ☠
For example, not everyone uses labels in Gmail to manage their emails. But I've recommended some people use labels to organize the information and it has helped them. For others, it hasn't. The point remains, that labels are there to help with that and they are worth a try to see if it works. It's part of the toolset. Same is true with Lists and Filters on FF. They are there to help you. Give them a try. If they don't work, fine. Plenty of people have found they do work and that's why we say use it
- Bwana ☠
Me, I have an "Everything" list so I can see all my followers... but sometimes, I need a break and I move to my other lists or fiilters to munch on those. I spend the most time in the Everything list though. My home feed consists of individuals who I have liked or commented on more than 50 or 60 times..
- Bwana ☠
I'm not sure following fewer is the best idea. The pause button puts the whole site back into static mode, i.e. what the old FF is. So just hit that. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's already gotten better, since yesterdays hype slowly went down. I'm quite happy with the (number of) followers now... It's manageable.
- Holger Eilhard
Personally I can not see what all the hoopla is about. May be due to not following a hunndred people
- Greg
I just started using it, and I love it so far.. I can now see what Leo and Steve were so excited about.
- BASEnet
Liberal use of the "Hide" link works wonders to keep things clean. Also, adding ?num=100 to the end of the beta URL keeps things on the first page (thx Stupid Blogger/FFer (aka Tina)!)
- Aaron Fowler
...And... Leo haven't commented here after 23 hours. Busy man. Busy man.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I like how powerful the filtering is.
- David Delony
just wish there was some type of sms capacity, like twitter
- Steve Austin
Well Said Leo: "Real-Time = Real-Life" and I can't wait for Facebook and Twitter to get real!
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Leo: real life is throwing up on your shoes, too. don't want that.
- MikeAmundsen
Safari 4 benchmarked: 42x faster than IE 7, 3.5x faster than Firefox 3 - Crave at CNET UK - http://crave.cnet.co.uk/softwar...
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Proving itself a staggering 42 times faster at rendering JavaScript than IE 7, our benchmarks confirm Apple's Safari 4 browser, released in beta today, is the fastest browser on the planet. In fact, it beat Google's Chrome, Firefox 3, Opera 9.6 and even Mozilla's developmental Minefield browser.
- Leo Laporte
On earth ? or elswhere... Just wondering...
- Boubacar Balde
from twhirl
As a developer, I always laugh when these raw performance stats are touted. Even js apps that consist of hundreds of lines of code would show no perceptible difference to users no matter the browser. Standards compliance trumps engine performance every time.
- Sprague D
Damn
- Mendy miller
It's pretty nippy so far
- james
Would You Pay Comcast $10 a Month for Online TV? « NewTeeVee - http://newteevee.com/2009...
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While watching Hulu and other premium online content on your big screen TV isn’t a threat to cable companies right now (TV watching is at an all time high, and getting high-quality content from PC to TV isn’t that easy yet), Comcast can see the writing on the wall, so last week it mobilized its own online video initiative to provide its customers with a way to watch premium TV programming online as part of a cable subscription.
- Leo Laporte
I don't really watch TV, but my wife does, so I'd be prepared to pay more for a bigger pipe, and have net TV on demand for her, and do away with cable TV itself.
- Ian May
One word: yes... that is if I can goto an online catalog to download/play them--like a Hulu service in higher quality
- Brad Arsenault
yes
- andy brudtkuhl
I would if I lived in the us and it did not count towards my bandwith used
- Rob Cairns
Oh, I see. Force the competition out by putting pressure on startups like Boxee to stop listing Hulu with their services, all the while working on your own service. I would never give those criminals a dime for this.
- Fleagle
Has anyone RTFA?
- Richard Lawler
Well Comcast is about the best offering around here, It's considerably faster than AT&T DSL,(who I wouldn't touch with a bargepole) and we don't have a landline into here anyway, so Comcast is the only option. It's the upload speeds that I often find inadequate.
- Ian May
Note to universe: I paid my Steve Jobs tax today. Now leave me alone for the next quarter. Thank you.
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Uhh oh, what did you buy now?
- Alex Scoble
Robert said on the Gillmor Gang that he got another 3G iPhone to replace the one he lost.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Three new iPhones. Maryam's was breaking. Patrick had his stolen at school (and saved up to buy another one). I left mine in a taxi cab in New York and finally saw reason again to get the 3G. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
So much for waiting for the Pre, hehe.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: I am getting the Pre when it comes out. I will cancel the fourth line we have with AT&T when that happens.
- Robert Scoble
Only three?
- Joel Falconer
Joel. Well, Milan gets my old one. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: If you sell your 3G iPhones let me know.
- Alex Sauceda
I'm paying my tax this week. Got a new 17" MBP on its way.
- Graham English
I paid my tax today too. Got my 15" MPB ...
- Lynne d Johnson
And watch the next version of the iPhone come out in June/July... now that would suck.
- Michael Forian
I wonder what the average lottery player spends on lotto and scratch tickets every quarter. At least the Steve Jobs tax gets you cool stuff.
- Christian Burns
Punter. I bought a 8-way 3Ghz MacPro for streaming video today. Ouch.
- Leo Laporte
Recession, what recession? If everyone was like us Friendfeeders, and kept buying cool toys, the recession would disappear like that!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Last.fm – the Blog · "Techcrunch are full of shit" - http://blog.last.fm/2009...
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When you signup to Last.fm and scrobble what you listen to, you are trusting us with your listening data. We take this very seriously. The old-timers on Last.fm who’ve been with us since the early days can attest to this – we’ve always been very open and transparent about how your data is used. This hasn’t changed. We never share personally identifiable data such as email and IP addresses. The only type of data we make available to labels and artists, other than what you see on the site, is aggregate data of listeners and number of plays.
- Leo Laporte
I'm not sure where the Americans fit in...probably a little everywhere (as the mutts we are).
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Hell: The Police are German, The Chefs are British, The Mechanics are French, The Lovers are Swiss and It's all organized by the Italians.
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Heaven: The Police are British, The Chefs are Italian, The Mechanics are German, The Lovers are French and It's all organized by the Swiss.
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Facebook’s Users Ask Who Owns Their Information - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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Greg Lastowka, an associate professor at the Rutgers School of Law who is writing a book on Internet law, said Facebook’s language was not unusual. “Most Web sites today offer terms of service that are designed to protect and further the interests of the company writing the terms, and most people simply agree to terms without reading them.”
- Leo Laporte
Same story, no registration required at IHT: http://www.iht.com/article... Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Facebook, said in a blog post on Monday that the philosophy "that people own their information and control who they share it with has remained constant." Despite the complaints, he did not indicate the language would be revised.
- Phillip Stewart
MS To Offer Free Windows 7 Upgrade To Vista Users - http://www.pcmag.com/article...
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I called it!! I love being right. ;)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Too bad they won't just give it to all people that got stuck with Vista. (Looks at self in mirror.)
- Robert Couture
Why is everyone so excited by this? W7 is nothing but Vista SP2 renamed
- Dread Pirate PJ
from feedalizr
See! See! LMFAO
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Shhhhhhhh Pj, that's a secret! Don't tell too many people or MSFT will resurrect the Seinfeld / Gates ads again. Oh, the horror.
- Mona Nomura
Users who buy Vista machines between July 1, 2009 and January 31, 2010 will be eligible for the free Windows 7 upgrade. Will anyone purchase a computer before July 1st?
- Phillip Stewart
Like Like Like Like Like Like Like Like Like Like Like. Ooops. Take that back.
- Martha
Anybody who EVER bought a machine with Vista should get a free upgrade.
- jcunwired
Booo! No free upgrade for those of us with vista pre2009... B etter only be a $50 upgrade. :P
- Chrimmus Tad
Nope... I called back at beta 6808!
- Russell Wagner
I'm so confused. Why is everyone so excited about this? They always do this. When a new OS has been announced (and is being rolled out to manufacturers), they give free copies to users who buy computers without the OS pre-installed. Apple does the same thing, allowing people who bought computers within 20 days or so of a new model/release to return it and get the new one (difference is, Microsoft's releases are announced way in advance and must cover more time since it's more difficult to roll out.
- Brandon Titus
This really isn't much of a story since they did the exact same thing just before the Vista launch. Customers who bought new machines with XP got a voucher for a free upgrade to Vista. The real story would be if Microsoft DIDN'T offer the same free upgrade this time.
- Ken McNamee
I just bought a new laptop running Vista. I have used XP up until now, just getting used to Vista. I doubt I would change OS for quite a while.
- Edward Kimble
If Microsoft did give Win7 as a free upgrade to vista it will help them in many ways. It will help keep Vista sales going, as stories are starting that people are already waitting for 7 to come out. It will help makeup with people that thought they got ripped off with Vista. Lastly it may slow down or stop apple adds that attack Vista day after day.
- walterh
rumor
- Alan Cheslow
This is misleading, and obviously some of us aren't bothering to read the article either judging by the comments above. ;)
- Ryan
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