Mike, I think an MS in CS would be designing compilers, not learning how to use to them to compile C.
- Cristo
Cristo, that is probably true, maybe it would be useful for a developer who is providing a web based compilation service?
- Mike Chelen
web-geared as in building and scaling massive web applications - learning about NoSQL technologies, advanced rails techniques, discussing various development styles, TDD, MDD, agile dev, scrum, waterfall, et cetera. instead of taking required courses like graphics, operating systems and compilers. @ mike - those courses like java and compiler stuff is already covered in undergrad...
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- Paul Stamatiou
Maine Senator Snowe (hovering near the figurative exit) says GOP has ‘moved toward an ideology that has contributed to our erosion as a strong national party’ & GOP leadership response to Specter move was ‘not constructive’ and that GOP ‘needs to recognize the reality of the situation we're facing’.
This pattern is very similar to what happened in england at the end of the Tory era. Tony blair took the center position, and the conservatives ended up flailing around at the extremes. It was easy to dismiss them as a nasty failure, but everyone lost out because there was nobody to credibly question the government. i.e. no loyal opposition
- Robin Barooah
Snowe says GOP direction is “catastrophic” and “the sooner we can emerge from this political wilderness.. [and realize] we're losing some very good people and [Congressional] seats [that are] very difficult to replace .. if we don't reorient the philosophy and views ... of the Republican party that [have] alienated so many Americans, including mainstream Republicans...”
- Anthony Citrano
“.. it is deeply troubling and something the Republican party better recognize or we'll continue on this path of erosion.. [It] raises very serious questions about the future viability of the Republican party.”
- Anthony Citrano
Sen. Snowe has been a consistent voice of reason on this - if there's no room for moderates in your party, your party will ultimately become fringe. Big political parties are built on a million tiny negotiated compromises; if you go "us or them" on too many issues, you lose everyone. I don't want to see the death of the GOP, I want to see it regain the ability to reason and compromise with both its adversaries, and its adherents.
- Jennifer Dittrich
@jennifer: I agree and I have a lot of respect for Senator Snowe. The GOP needs many more like her, not fewer.
- Anthony Citrano
My favorite part of her op-ed:"It is for this reason that we should heed the words of President Ronald Reagan, who urged, “We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending, pro-growth policies, tax reduction, sound national defense, and maximum individual liberty.” He...
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- Steve
this is one of the many reasons Snowe's vote this week was not surprising to me.
- Anthony Citrano
If Snowe jumps ship like Spector, I really wouldn't be surprised. Always thought she was a wolf in sheep's clothing in the GOP who have gone so far right it makes moderates increasingly uncomfortable.
- Sally Church
Tip for models: I'm not more likely to agree to a shoot if you tell me you want to take your shirt off. This has almost nothing to do with the fact that I'm not a “boob guy” and everything to do with the fact that if I wanted to shoot boobs, I would have a long time ago.
I know this makes me unusual amongst the GWCs among whom you may have found yourself circulating, but I hope it doesn't make me unusual among legit photographers.
- Anthony Citrano
This is such a weird situation- it's like, all premise to it being fine art, out the window
- anna sauce
"That photo would look great, with my shirt off." lol
- anna sauce
ha, Anna, it is weird. common pitch: "i was thinking of doing something kinda hot, you know... blah blah racy blah blah titties blah blah wet tshirt blah blah.." as if that moves them up the list somehow. part of it is that LA is a much more T&A town than NYC .. a little like Miami that way... if you want to shoot Playboy, Maxim, bikini calendars, and various other softporn kind of stuff, it's easy. much more of a dance / filtering exercise if you want to shoot the less accessible stuff.
- Anthony Citrano
you'd think they'd just say "open to nudity" and leave it as an option. I find it kind of obnoxious hwen people propose how one does their art. "You should do xyz" book/photo/etc. My response is usually, why don't YOU do that? ha
- anna sauce
unless they see it as a way of getting some free portfolio shots out of the situation, that would make sense, then.
- anna sauce
But many photographers are quite particular about what they shoot and aren't going to shoot something they don't want to shoot regardless of money. Further I think in some cases models / bookers / agents who want to get better shots for a portfolio often try to "shoot up" to a higher level of photographer than the typical GuyWithCamera (who will shoot anything - if it's naked - for...
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- Anthony Citrano
So... Online, if you give out your email address, you get a lot of spam 'noise', you give out your IM details, you get a lot of chat 'noise', you subscribe to everyone on Twitter, you get a lot of DM 'noise'... What made you think your Google Wave address would yield different results?
Management tools can only go so far... sometime you shouldn't just be a social media slut
- Johnny Worthington
Totally agree Johnny! Opening day there is always a crowd and to try and have conversations with the whole crowd is always going to be a problem.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Well with Wave you don't even really have control of your address... if any of your contacts wants to add you to a thread with lots of other people, any of them can add you as a contact then as well. So once it's out there, it's out there....
- Fa La La La Lindsay
if someone guesses your id@googlewave.com they can add you to their contact list or they can just view public waves and wait for you to appear in one. That's how i've added some folks.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
"Social Media Slut" is definitely a MOW for today. Love!
- Ladybug Heather
I am not changing my ID to "(Social Media Slut of FF)"
- Louis Gray
Benjamin, I don't believe people guessed it you were probably in their Google Contacts already or on Gtalk. That's how I had a load of people already in my Google Wave contacts upon logging in for the first time. No, no privacy settings though someone said that's exactly have they want a wave to be. I'm not sure myself but other than that it's a hugely impressive tool. Yes there needs to be some noise control.
- Kol Tregaskes
So let me get this straight. Your complaining because people want to email, IM and DM you on twitter? Or that your not getting the responses you wanted?
- Santa CW™
You can mute on Google Wave. Not seen a block feature. There are also Saved Searches + there is a bot that can create groups (though not fully working) so some interesting FriendFeed-like features.
- Kol Tregaskes
Eoghann: I couldn't live without my iPhone anymore. I'd pay 5x the price I'm currently paying to keep it.
- Robert Scoble
Fair enough, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that the majority of the US population is in your position. For me 90% of my time is spent at work, at home or driving between them where I have no use for a cellphone of any sort. I'm not paying hundreds of dollars for the remaining 10%.
- Eoghann Irving
$techbubble->burst(); three years from now most people on this planet won't have a phone at all. They will be happy to survive another day.
- arjo
Because of unemployment I had to cut off the internet on my BB Bold. Why won't AT&T allow Android phones! This Blackberry is too constricted, unlike the joy of the Iphone or G1
- earl wallace
from twhirl
I'm amazed how expensive mobile data plans are in the US compared to the UK.
- Nick B.
If I couldn't afford a smartphone I would save up for an iPod touch.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Who needs a laptop to test a client's network when you have a smartphone. Just got home from a gig and i'm eternally grateful for my smartphone :)
- Anthony Farrior
My iPod Touch is a brick most of the time
- Chrimmus Tad
Many people can't afford data plans. I love my iPhone, but it's not cheap to own at $30/month for 1GB data.
- Alex Knight
Personally, the reason I don't have a smartphone is that while I can afford the data plans, I deeply resent being systematically overcharged. However, I'd be very interested in an iPod Touch-like device based on Android, especially if it had VOIP functionality that worked over WiFi.
- Michael R. Bernstein
In several years the "cell phone" data plan won't exist anymore anyways. It will be a part of your internet plan
- Chris Brakebill
“Obama's actual [back-to-school] speech proved about as controversial as a Nancy Reagan appeal to eighth-graders to ‘Just say no!’ to drugs. Yet, the episode reveals the poisoned character of our politics... We seem not only to disagree with each other more than ever, but to have come almost to detest one another. Politically, culturally, racially, we seem ever ready to go for each others' throats.”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Actually, there are some deep thoughts in this essay: arguably America is indeed coming apart at the seams, culturally, politically and economically. The rise of the neo-Confederates is perhaps the most significant trendline in this development. (The main question for Buchanan: do you side with or against the neo-Confederates? Do you welcome the disintegration of the United States?)
- Sean McBride
PatB's fingerprints are on some of this "poisoned character of our politics" he can be pretty insightful at times. IMO, he too often decides that scoring debating points is much more rewarding than being insightful.
- MikeAmundsen
Ignoring the issues raised in this essay because of the source could be short-sighted. What could be more obvious than that America is in fact coming apart at the seams culturally and politically? Current conditions are beginning to resemble those before the US Civil War.
- Sean McBride
@Sean: yep. messenger is not the issue here. while both PatB and WND rank low in my list of "things i like," it doesn't mean his points are invalid.
- MikeAmundsen
Mike -- I often discover the most useful insights and facts from my most ardent adversaries. I also tend to cut Buchanan a break now and then because he is a vigorous thinker and writer, and because he mounted articulate opposition to the Iraq War and to the neoconservative agenda in general. But the neo-Confederate side of his personality keeps peeking out in disturbing ways -- I understand the anger against him among progressives.
- Sean McBride
I too was skeptical due to the source (Buchanan & WND), but the article does have merit. Insightful read.
- JA Castillo
@Denise & Scott - respectfully I would suggest that it's exactly those kinds of knee-jerk reactions that are causing all the trouble in the first place. I can't offer much beyond what Sean McBride has eloquently stated above, I guess I'll just say I've always respected Buchanan's intellect and consistency.
- Anthony Citrano
Hmm I think I'm missing some of the insight: "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading authorization packet', system error: 0"
- mikepk
I don't find him vile because of what's in the article or his intelligence. I appreciate the sentiment of reading opposing sources (and I fully agree). My contentions with Buchanan are purely his politics, with which I staunchly disagree. His religious bent disturbs me tremendously ("Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Yeah, how much 'insight' is there in a piece that actively misleads the reader by leaving out that PAT BUCHANAN HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR YEARS NOW ?
- Andrew C
That said, it is awesome that the piece apparently criticizes Rep Wilson for the "You Lie" moment, but WND has inserted a text ad to their store where you can pick up a "You Lie" bumper sticker. Kinda shows just how serious WND isn't.
- Andrew C
Hilarious. Does Buchanan realize what site he's writing for? WND is part if the problem and he's adding legitimacy to it by writing for them. I love how he points to Joe Wilson's outburst as "poisoned character of our politics" and WND throws one of their million poorly -labeled ads selling "You Lie" stickers right after that statement.
- Rob Haas
By itself, it's not insightful to say America is divided. That's inane and a puerile observation because it's so obvious. What's odious about Pat Buchanan here is that his real point isn't that America should be united, but that /it should be united along the lines he prefers/, which is racist and only coded enough to maintain plausible deniability. Read the last few paragraphs. Hell,...
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- Andrew C
"The European-Christian core of the country that once defined us is shrinking, as Christianity fades, the birth rate falls and Third World immigration surges. Globalism dissolves the economic bonds, while the cacophony of multiculturalism displaces the old American culture." - seriously, fuck him.
- Andrew C
Agreed. American exceptionalism and archaic political philosophies determined to keep us in the past are not going to help...but they sure are attractive to scared and (purposely) poorly educated people, aren't they?
- Neal Jansons
from IM
Exactly. I see no deep thoughts, just obvious observations. All Buchanan serves to do in this case is sell more survival kits and books to WND readers. And crap, when did Sprint start advertising on WND? It's time to write some e-mails.
- Rob Haas
It's people like him that prove that the US needs to really start separating state and church: religion has NO role in politics.
- Rene Wirtz
Throughout the piece, the fear of difference is so pronounced. It has always seemed to me so ironic that for people who worship at the altar of free markets, they are so opposed to a free marketplace of ideas with plenty of competition.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
bxchen: Apple has removed its directory of public relations contacts from apple.com/pr. Now if we want our calls ignored we can dial just 1 number! - http://twitter.com/bxchen...
Alex, I believe it will be because the main Facebook home page already has auto refresh (or real-time) built in. Facebook Lite is far from complete yet, as can be seen from the profile settings.
- Rob Diana
Not sure why but I find myself staring at the ani and can hear Beyonce's Single Ladies in my head. :O Must... break... the connection...
- Travis Koger
Roflmao I think I like this one even better. My name is Shenequa, Shantell, Beyonce, Beard ...punkass. If yau'll got a problem with my beard speak to the hand.
- Jeunelle Foster
It's weird to me why so many don't list their phone numbers. I've done that for four years and always it has brought me good things. Yeah, a few crank calls here and there but there's ways to defend against that:
- Robert Scoble
1. Only accept calls that have caller ID turned on.
- Robert Scoble
2. Keep your contact list up to date. On my iPhone it shows me the name of someone who has called me before if I put them into my contact list.
- Robert Scoble
I've been using it as my phone book on my ye ole Palm Centro since I got the device. Besides, you should list it on Facebook anyway so you can guiltlessly avoid joining all those "lost my phone" groups that keep popping up; or is that college-age only thing?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
3. If someone crank calls you, or you get a spam call (I am getting more of those) I change their name to something derogatory and I never accept their calls anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Google Voice number listed in my Facebook profile. No worries.
- Dave Roth
I rarely get calls from strangers even though my number is listed on my blog and on facebook. In fact, it's listed everywhere.
- Shaine Mata
Shaine: it's rare I get calls from anyone, which is just great.
- Robert Scoble
Google Voice number listed. nice touch
- Barry Peters
Robert: on mine the names only show up if you're in my address book for some reason
- Jesse Stay
You get a cell phone call that's caller ID blocked, TrapCall works great! Does anyone know of any other services that unblock the caller ID?
- Eric
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I thougt was happening
- Jesse Stay
I actually called you once in Austin for SXSW. I got you lost. The guy next to me freaked out..."You just called Robert Scoble?" Me: "of course, his number is on his blog".
- Shaine Mata
I wish Google Voice could auto-forward calls that are blocked to a custom voicemail though
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: oh, caller ID only shows the number. Mine will show 425-205-1921. It will only show a name if you've associated that number with a name in contacts.
- Robert Scoble
I agree, the new FB iPhone app is great, good idea about using it as an address book.
- mark taylor
mark: it's really cool because it shows you which of your friends have put their phone numbers in there and gives you an icon you can click on, and you can make the call right from Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
Does it allow you to sync with your phone's address book? For all its glitches, the BlackBerry storm has been syncing contacts across apps for months now. It's pretty cool to see my contacts' facebook icons pop up when I get phone calls.
- Daniel Philp
Daniel: nope, I don't believe it's syncable. But because people keep their Facebook accounts up to date it's the best way to keep your accounts up to date. I wonder, though, if it syncs with Plaxo.
- Robert Scoble
PJ: my number has always been public and nothing bad has happened.
- Robert Scoble
robert: I think that's not much safe for girls and children. please rethink about the abuse and etc
- tevfik bülent öngün
@Daniel - I believe that retrieving phone numbers and email addresses is forbidden by the Facebook API TOS.
- BeauGiles
@tevfik - List it on there, then protect it using friend lists. Eg, only let Family and friends see it. Or, add people you don't know to a friend list and then restrict that friend list from seeing that phone number or other details.
- BeauGiles
Yeah, I've been using this with the Facebook app on BlackBerry. It's a great feature, though only about a quarter of my friends have their number listed.
- Oliver Ortega Chua
@BeauGiles. yeah sure i can do this. but will children care about this?
- tevfik bülent öngün
@tevfik I encourage my friends to do it. Makes it really easy for them also when they get a new phone; stops all of these silly 'I lost my phone; what's your number' groups - they could just pull up the Facebook phone book and grab the numbers from there.
- BeauGiles
tevfik: girls and children are attacked most often by people who are already in the house or who are personal friends. I totally disagree that putting a phone number up will lead to that kind of abuse.
- Robert Scoble
Sekhemets: name one time that someone was attacked because they had their phone numbers put up in public. Just one. Did you realize that in the US we all used to have our phone numbers listed in the phone book? I think the paranoia is crazy.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I think this is something to think about, Have had my phone on my blog for a few years... never been a problem! Also like the idea of listing my Google Voice number, and may do that...
- WalterAkana
Robert, my AT&T rep said that spammers have every single AT&T phone number - it is clearly not that hard to get someone's phone number if these spammers can get it.
- Jesse Stay
Better yet, list your google voice number. Contribute to the phone book and maintain some layer of privacy/control.
- Drew McKechnie
Robert, syncing with Plaxo would be awesome. That, however, would require a change to the current policy of Facebook, which you and I both know has a history of restrictiveness around contact info sync!
- John McCrea
Sekhemets: there is not a good case to be paranoid about phone numbers. There IS a good case to be paranoid about other personal information, like location or home addresses. But phone numbers? Give me a break.
- Robert Scoble
I get a few calls and several texts every day from people who have discovered my number (I have a tendency to reveal it accidentally on the air). I'd be careful about publishing your number.
- Leo Laporte
If someone calls your phone and stalks you, you have their phone number to give to police.
- Robert Scoble
Leo, do you use Google Voice? That's the only number I ever share, but I'm happy to share it.
- Jesse Stay
Leo: OK, I'll stop stalking YOU and sending you all those texts. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Sekhemets: my friends who don't make their phones public still get sales calls. I get crank calls once in a while. I just hang up. It's not that big a deal. But I do get that being a woman is a bit different. It's just that once you get a call from a number that isn't good you would stop answering. It's that simple.
- Robert Scoble
PJ: I guess if you are going to turn into a spammer then you might not want to put your phone number out there.
- Robert Scoble
I don't post my number because I don't like using the phone - just a communication medium that does not fit me well. My wife and kids and my boss have my cell-phone number. Corporations (those that may remind me if I am late with a bill) get the landline number which I never pick up but check the messages about once a day. If you google my name you can find a dozen other ways to contact...
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- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: I am just like you. I hate the phone. But there are some times when only a phone call will do. And I've seen so many of those times that I've come to believe that anyone who doesn't share their number with their friends is leaving themselves out of lots of opportunities. I remember the time I got on the BBC. Why? They told me they couldn't get anyone at Microsoft PR to wake up but found my phone number.
- Robert Scoble
Good point. I will have to rethink. For someone so public and constantly online, I need my moments of privacy to be private, emotionally, as in 'incommunicado'. It may miss me some opportunities but I feel I need that for mental health. But have to have my cell-phone with me in case my family needs me.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: you don't need to answer your phone if you need some away time.
- Robert Scoble
True that. Hard to break the habit of answering automatically whenever it rings.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: part of that is having an iPhone which makes you look at it to answer it. That makes you decide whether or not the call is something you need to take right now. My wife and family have their pictures on the phone, so theirs always get answered, if I'm available.
- Robert Scoble
Bora: if only they supported ringtone sync as well :D
- Mike Chelen
Once I get a Google Voice number and get familiar with the Google Voice features, I may list it as a public phone number. At present, however, my business phone number is only semi-publicized at best, and my home phone number is unlisted. I had some harrassing phone call issues years ago, and another family member had them recently, so it's not worth it to list the more private phone numbers.
- John E. Bredehoft
While Facebook proves that a distributed contact database in which my contacts update their own info is great, I hope that Google Contacts someday will let me give Write authority to everyone in there such that they can update (only) their own records anytime. Then, I'd have a clean, simple updated-by-them Contacts database for all of those folks -- not just my Facebook folks and without all the other Facebook stuff like photos, games, etc. and etc.
- Joel Bush
In addition, I email via Gmail probably 100x as often as via Facebook. Keeping Gmail contact info up to date is key. If I could have the contacts take care of that themselves, as with Facebook, that'd be helpful. Lastly, Gmail search has meant freedom from (Outlook-era) hierarchical folders, so keeping everything in Gmail is fantastic, and receiving forwards from Facebook (with its no-reply) just isn't as clean. So, Facebook proves contact-self-updating cool; let's hope Google goes there, too.
- Joel Bush
Joel: replying through email is one friendfeed feature that facebook could well include. and that is a good point about having contacts update their own info
- Mike Chelen
The automatic sync between my Palm Pre, Google contacts and Facebook keeps my contacts almost flawlessly up to date. Case in point: my friend recently got married and changed her name. When she updated Facebook, My entry for her in my phone automatically updated.
- Mike
I'm in 100% agreement with this. I use a Blackberry, but feel the same way. People keep their info up to date on Facebook for the most part and it sync's to my phone. So do events and birthdays. LOVE it.
- frank barry
I think for this to work for most people, you would need either better trackability from the phone companies, or some kind of screening service integrated into something like Google Voice. I really don't think society is ready for this kind of open information sharing.
- Fergal Barry
"Problem with caller id is cell phones don't broadcast caller id" - umm, then how do you know the incoming number? Maybe you mean the name - ICLID is delivered to your cell phone, CNAM is not, but your cell phone's CNAM is delivered to landline phones. Which can lead to quirks - the name on our family cell phone account is mine, so my wife's cell phone delivers my name to landlines.
- John Craft
I sync my iPhone with GMail contacts, and it works nicely. I also sync it with Facebook, but Facebook's Terms of Service prevent apps from getting my friends phone numbers and putting them into my phone directly. That kinda sorta sucks. Both MyPhone+ and Fex can sync names, birthdays, address info, and photos though. That works nicely.
- Otto
“I think it's lame the US Open is trying to regulate our tweeting...” [This is so fucking stupid - why would you ever create rules for one specific site or technology? Are they also preventing people from using FriendFeed? Facebook? Posterous? The myopia w/r/t infotech astounds me sometimes.]
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Issues so far: iStat Menus no longer work.
- Jason Huebel
WideMail plugin for Mail.app no longer works.
- Jason Huebel
Not sure I could bring myself to do an upgrade, mo matter the OS.
- Christopher A Carr
It was painless, with the exception of the couple of things that don't work now. But that's not because I did an upgrade. That's because they aren't Snow Leopard compatible anyway.
- Jason Huebel
Snow Leopard is noticeably faster...
- Jason Huebel
Upgrades seem like bad hygiene to me. OSX might do a better job of it than Linux or Windows...still.
- Christopher A Carr
Yeah, I can't really argue with that. But I didn't want to go through the trouble of backing up, wiping and then migrating my data to the new install. It took 45 minutes to upgrade (which went off without a hitch), but would take all day to wipe and reinstall.
- Jason Huebel
from IM
No, I'm using the 32-bit kernel according to uname: Darwin JASONMAC.local 10.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.0.0: Fri Jul 31 22:47:34 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1456.1.25~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
- Jason Huebel
That I'm aware of, there was no option to choose the kernel you wanted installed.
- Jason Huebel
Oh, I see, you have to manually boot into 64-bit: "While Mac OS X version 10.6 ships with a number of 64-bit native applications, the kernel itself defaults to 32-bit, unless the user holds down the "6" and "4" keys during boot time, at which point the 64-bit kernel is loaded."
- Christopher A Carr
Ah, thanks for the link. Rebooting and trying this now. BRB.
- Jason Huebel
from IM
Held down "6" and "4" until the Apple logo showed up at boot time. Still the same uname info. Are we sure this wasn't removed before release?
- Jason Huebel
Someone should really post LOLcats with the Snow Leopard from Apple's marketing materials. ;)
- Tyson Key
Jason, which pieces run faster? And what hardware is it running on?
- Meryn Stol
The UI is much faster overall. I'm running a unibody Macbook with 4GB RAM (bought just before they were rebranded as 13" Macbook Pros). Mail.app seems a LOT faster. Still digging.
- Jason Huebel
Caffeine doesn't cause children to get wired and spaz like adults, it cause paradoxical focus through the same mechanism as Ritalin. Well, it does wire their brain up, but specifically the focusy part of the brain, which in children is underdeveloped.
- Matthew DeVries
The increased heart rate would be what I would worry about the most. Little hearts aren't as durable as more mature ones.
- Josh Haley
Louis you have to cure this it's horrendous for their bowels. Paramedics use this stuff in the UK to clean blood of the roads. Nothing else can do it. Save Sarah today.
- Thomas Power
Actually, once the foramen ovale closes, baby hearts are the best you can get, nearly impossible to fatigue.
- Matthew DeVries
The issue is that McD's just went through an embarrassing episode a year or so ago over their poor treatment of Black customers. They really ought to avoid any mention of race until that has been forgotten.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Euh... While I am sure it is a different marketing group, actually creating a different website clearly labelled for the black people - It just seems ridiculous somehow.
- James Kuypers
I suppose that's true, but I still dislike when communities are targeted for stuff that's unhealthy or unfair, like fast food, "payday" check cashing, and malt liquor. Call me old-fashioned. (edit: Actually, malt liquor probably doesn't qualify)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
They are just giving black folks an opportunity to serve their community, making them responsible for the welfare of their own environment.
- Christopher A Carr
It's a site aimed at landing a job at McD's. From the site: "It's a place where you can learn more about education, employment, career advancement and entrepreneurship opportunities, and meet real people whose lives have been touched by McDonald's."
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
This is patronizing and irritating. All you folks popping up whining "it's just targeted marketing. what's wronnng?", kindly stfu. You know exactly what's wrong. I'm tired of being "targeted" as if I'm not a regular person capable of finding a job at frigging McDonald's without having my hand held. Major UGH.
- Kamilah Gill
at least it's not Billy Dee Williams (a.k.a. Lando Calrissian - Administrator Of This Facility) grinning and saying "Works every time!".
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Hmph. Most of the world *is* 365White, so that's a red herring. My issue with this is not the race-specific advertising, or even the use of the baobab tree iconography. My issue is that yet again a company whose bottom line is made by pushing unhealthy substances is targeting a minority community. Educational advances aside (and I know several people who made it through college *and* B-school thanks to MickeyD's), this kind of stuff is killing people, especially people who look like me.
- cecily
OTOH, I'm willing to cut them a little more slack because McDonald's will build outlets in neighbourhoods that other businesses won't touch. I don't see Whole Foods putting up a store on Bankhead Highway. Businesses have all but deserted the inner-city, an in a lot of cases, fast food outlets are the only source of employment opportunities for people who don't have access to reliable...
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- cecily
McDodo's was the FIRST chain to pull out when the southeastern part of my city went from lilly white to mostly hispanic and Vietnamese.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Because the gift of pandemic diabetes in the black community just wasn't enough, your very own black McDonalds website...
- Christopher A Carr
Dead Silence, they were the *last* to pull out of my hood when things took a turn for the worse. I see your anecdote and match it. :-D
- cecily
and, actually, that part of our city is still thriving and low crime, just no national chains seem to want to do business there cos it's not white enough for them.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
And I'm wondering - have any of you who are feeling the most outraged ever taken a look at some back issues of Ebony, Jet, or Essence magazine? This kind of race-specific marketing is nothing new - it's just on the innernetz where it will reach a broader audience. Why the hue and cry now?
- cecily
Probably cause I'm not black and have almost never read those magazines. Certainly the As-Am mags I've read (only sporadically) have never had as ham-handed advertising as McD's Asian site. At least, I don't think they did/do.
- Andrew C
It's not all that outrageous in terms of being surprising, it's just that McDonalds is so, uh, crudely blatant about it, in what would seem to me intelligence insulting fashion.
- Christopher A Carr
I don't care how positive the marketing spin is on fast food and $200 dollar sneakers, frankly.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
I think it's fair to argue whether the site is well done or not, or whether it achieves a certain objective or not. And, frankly, if you're white, unless you're extremely competent about African-American culture, you may not be able to have a fully informed opinion on that. It's a little naive to be surprised by the site's existence, though. Every major consumer products company has its own ethnic marketing division.
- Erica Mauter
don't know why i find this offensive...
- Tate DA FF MVP
Additionally, McDonald's has always placed emphasis on the business opportunities it makes available. They provide tons of scholarships for their young employees. They do good things. You can't be made at them for marketing their product. There is more than enough information out there; that choice is entirely on the consumer.
- Erica Mauter
Advertising is insulting in general, usually. Why the indignation over this? Advertising has always and will always be the seller of something telling me how good it is. Conflict of interest anyone? So, I guess this falls into that category for me. Oh yeah, and the material isn't offensive in and of itself, it requires a human to interact with it and decide for themselves, offensive or not. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder, or something...
- Joshua Kahn
Wow, just wow! What was McDonald's thinking when they did this?! Don't they realize they're alienating people?! This is the dumbest idea of the year! *sigh*
- Susan Beebe
that is completely different John...and i'm hoping you know it
- Zee.
Blame the partners http://www.365black.com/365blac... including the Thurgood Marshall College Fund, BET.com (hmm, come to think of it, that's a whole television network that's targeting a particular audience), and VIBE (hmm again).
- John E. Bredehoft
Or blame the award winners http://www.blackgivesback.com/2009... "This year McDonald's recognizes Black Enterprise publisher Earl G. Graves, Sr.; CNN journalist Soledad O'Brien; NBA legend and philanthropist Alonzo Mourning; House Majority Whip and Congressman James E. Clyburn (D-SC) and McDonald's Owner and Operator Frank E. Mason. These...
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- John E. Bredehoft
And someone DOES blame the partners http://regeneratormag.com/economi... "Whatever the case may be, McDonald’s is safe so long as it stays partnered with All The Things Black People Love™: BET, Vibe, Coca-Cola, the CIAA and the Thurgood Marshall College Fund. These august institutions would never partner with the likes of Ronald “i’m lovin’ it” McDonald unless they had the Community’s best interest at heart."
- John E. Bredehoft
Well, if I was to apply what I have been learning in Economics, I would say that McDonalds has stepped out in front with what a lot of business are going to do (and some have already begun to make noises in that direction) .http://www.365black.com/365blac...
- Melanie Reed
"...McDonald's has branched out to the African-American community *nourishing* it with valuable programs and opportunities..." Pfft. I'm glad they're nourishing it with "programs," cause they sure as hell aren't nourishing it with that engineered, sugar/fat pseudo-food.
- Christopher A Carr
Why do you feel alienated, Susan? Anyone else who feels this way is free to answer.
- cecily
*sigh* Why do we always forget what we've already discussed? 365White would be redundant since our world is already white 365 days of the year. Especially here in the US. It's the same as people getting upset over the Blackbird browser and talking about Whitebird or whatever. Many don't see it or don't want to see it, but our world is tilted in favor of one race at this point and we need balance. NO! Obama is NOT that balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
how do you mean our world is already white 365 days of the year?
- Zee.
Cecily, I guess I don't have the standing to say whether 365Black is offensive to me, but I've definitely felt that myinspirasian.com is offensively condescending. Targeted marketing is one thing, but silly and offensively simplistic stereotypes are a distinct subset of targeted marketing.
- Andrew C
to celebrate black history. That's not the same as McDonalds designing a site specifically for black people though
- Zee.
I demand a McD's site aimed towards atheistic pasty white folks of Protestant Irish descent.
- Chrimmus Tad
Well, the point of the site, so they say, is to celebrate black history every day of the year. Just as the majority of history any kid will learn in school will *not* be black history. I'm not sure if that's really the goal of the site, but that's what it says. Does anyone here have a problem with celebrating black history and culture every day of the year? All 365 of them?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
seriously Rah...? You believe this site really is to celebrate black history every day of the week?
- Zee.
Fair points, Andrew, but I'm trying to get to why people are so upset about this, and most of the commentary (IMO) has little to do with being pandered to. I get the feeling people think that because African Americans are being targeted in this campaign that they're somehow being given an unfair advantage.
- cecily
That's what it says. There is even an opportunities link. Could it just be a way to market to the black community and make us eat more of their garbage? I don't know. The point is, black people have probably made McDonald's a lot of money. It *IS* one of the places that will probably hire black people and even promote them eventually. The DO have ties to the black community that run a...
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- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The site isn't just celebrating history (or those 'exceptional' black folk), but to celebrate achievement, whether that achievement comes as the result of education or business success. They're separate but complementary goals.
- cecily
Looks like Cecily and I are seeing the same things in regards to this. Some are mentioning the pandering aspect as the offense, but most are just upset that black people have something separate. The latter always seems to be the point of contention as the immediate response is to say "what if we had a white X", which is a completely redundant statement if you're paying attention. I also have a sneaking suspicion that those outside of the US may have a harder time grasping what's going on.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Huh. FWIW, my upsetness was mostly about the sense of McD's pandering. I may well be overly sensitive; it could be "liberal guilt". I certainly didn't think there was any 'unfair advantage' going on.
- Andrew C
basically, for me - the sooner we get rid of anything that distinguishes people by color...the better.
- Zee.
I feel you, Zee, but we are just no there yet. At this point, your desire is like wishing paralyzed people could walk and viewing wheel chairs as simply a way to delay that reality. At this point, we still need extra support because we have people who absolutely DO NOT agree with you. Racism is alive and well. Things are skewed. There needs to be balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've had a long day at work and don't have enough brain power to fully participate in this thread. that said, I am black and McDonald's 365 website doesn't offend me one bit. it's an educational destination held together by advertising. sure, it may pander - what major advertising doesn't? ever see a Mac commercial? as several people have mentioned before, this type of marketing is not...
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- jbrotherlove
you're probably right, we're not there yet...but i can't see how this helps
- Zee.
Oh right, re-reading the thread reminded me why I thought it was pandering: the 'mighty baobab' line. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
- Andrew C
Definitely not discounting that interpretation, Andrew. I'm not exactly getting a pure vibe from the site,but I'm suspicious of any corporation focusing on a minority.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
My issue is with people being against minority-specific things. When the majority stops stacking the deck against us, we won't have the need to build our own decks. Just because there are a few who believe we shouldn't have to take such actions, doesn't mean we don't have to.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
McD wants to sell hamburgers. Everything else is advertising/PR to that end.
- Christopher A Carr
And my post on the site, which mostly concentrates on the diversity vs. black only issue, but also touches on some things I noted above. I also take issue with Steven Hodson saying it's OK for BET.com to target a particular race, but then saying that BET.com can't sponsor 365black.com http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
"Most of the world *is* 365White"??? Only if you think that the world *is* 100% USA! I think you will find that over 50% of the world's population is of Asian Origin, add to that the 15% that make up the population of Africa and you can see just how white the world really *is* ;)
- Dave Pook
Recently, we have LAN games can use to now download the demo in Macdonald's shop.
- Ami Iida
OK, I have a question for those who objected to 365black.com - did you object to the concept, or the execution? Pepsi seems to have a less heavy-handed execution (no Baobab trees), but they have a site with the same concept. I heard about it via a Corvida Raven share http://friendfeed.com/corvida... (she's featured on the site).
- John E. Bredehoft
Awesome shots! Always love looking at the best of the best photos from NatGeo.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Love National Geographic shots, nothing but excellence every time
- Mo Kargas
Check out "At Close Range", its a documentary about Joel Sartore who is one of the best NatGeo photographers. Its a great look at the behind the scenes of what it takes to get the picture. Here is the Netflix summary: "A fascinating profile of internationally acclaimed National Geographic magazine photographer Joel Sartore, this PBS documentary provides a behind-the-scenes look at the...
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- Carlos Ayala
Thanks Carlos, I'll take a gander at it
- Mo Kargas
I absolutely loved this set of photos. Thanks for sharing.
- Christopher Cantu
Is that about 50-100 comments per day Robert?
- David Damore
Well, take it from a music turned tech guy, you are deeply appreciated. I truly have not read 29k posts, but from what I have read ( I read and apply it to my work), you are a main source of mine. PLEASE DON'T STOP!!
- professor daddyo
Thanks. I have been on FriendFeed since February of 2008.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I thought the point of commenting and getting social was to 'enrich' your life... At least that's my story - and I'm stickin' to it!!
- Victoria Plautia
instead of a live you could also get some ghostwriters like @guykawasaki . Although he says comments are always his own, so that approach won't help either.
- Till
I passed 1000 likes today. That's my milestone. Congrats to you, too, Robert.
- Ben Hanten
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
Seems to me like some sort of an (DDoS) attack on Twitter and Facebook.
- Jari Hakkarainen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
You broke it Bob! All this follow/unfollow madness.
- ZuDfunck
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
This kind of reminds me of a line from Office Space: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."
- Jari Hakkarainen
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- Travis Koger
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
Twitter being down is a a relief to me this morning! Now I can stay OFF it rather than fitting it into every 30 second change of task! n
- Arleen Anderson
at this rate they will have to start sending out junk mail via the post office again... oh the humanity
- Terry Bruce
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- Travis Koger
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
Yeah, had all the characteristics of a DDoS attack. What do perpetrators of such attacks get from doing that, I've never understood.
- Jari Hakkarainen
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Maybe Ev's interview on the BBC last night didn't go down well with the Iranians!
- Andrew
from iPod
Tracing route to twitter.com [168.143.162.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.1.1 2 25 ms 29 ms 28 ms lo1.br57.fra.de.hansenet.net [213.191.64.45] 3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae1-252.prju01.fra.de.hansenet.net [62.109.64.13 7] 4 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms fra32-hansenet-3.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.61] 5 120 ms 119 ms 195 ms ash1-new50-racc1.ash.seabone.net [195.22.206.2] 6 125 ms...
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- Zalt Woo
Ev coming onto the BBC last night and saying that they were asked by the US Goverment to keep Twitter up and running during the Iranian protests cannot have gone down well in Tehran!
- Andrew
from iPod
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
The realtime updates of the comments is great. FF rulez. Would be better though to have the comment link not on top
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Anderson
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- Ron Hagenhoff