What's Michael thanking me for? I've never done anything but argue with him as far as I remember!(Well, I tried to hook him up with a speaking gig once, but the timing didn't work out.) :-)
- Bill Hooker
The second thing I did was to highlight all the fine folks mentioned that I've had contact with already. I then thought, woah, there's lots of others I don't know. a) why is that and b) I probably should go and check 'em out.
- Graham Steel
I skyped with him a bit (I think?) and exchanged email. Hadn't realized I was in the acks, thanks for pointing this out. fun+happy :)
- Heather Piwowar
My Mum especially was rather proud to see he her Son's name mentioned amongst everyone elses....
- Graham Steel
i read a draft and made comments - and it's nice to be remembered with an ack as well as a copy of the book.
- Christina Pikas
From what I can see (and vaguely remember) Bill, Graham, Heather, Christina, RR, and many others were there on some fondly remember social media service shaping the conversation from around 2007-2010 so I don't think anyone should feel shy about being acknowledged. What someone _should_ do is actually record the history of that early period and the creation of some of those key ideas so...
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- Cameron Neylon
Bah. I hereby cede any ideas I ever had on the subject to the public domain, insofar as I still own copyright in the way I expressed 'em. I don't give a damn about credit, and not much about history.
- RepoRat
I also commented on an early draft and am happy to have a complimentary copy. Which my son Sam is reading right now, precocious teenager that he is. Curiously, Princeton UP contacted me on a couple of additional occasions to offer me a review copy. "Um, you sent me a copy already..."
- John Dupuis
You can cede the rights but you can't cede the history. I will continue to do my damndest to give credit not least because I'm a white middle class middle aged male building on a lot of work by women and people given a significantly less easy ride than I have.
- Cameron Neylon
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- Adriano
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Understanding how a process looks from outside our own echo chamber can be useful. It helps to calibrate and sanity check our own responses. It adds an external perspective and at its best can save us from our own overly fixed ideas. In the case of the ongoing Elsevier Boycott we even have a ...
- Cameron Neylon
One publisher specified: ‘[…] the best way for the EU to contribute to the circulation of knowledge is by supporting publishers, who deliver quality-controlled information necessary for knowledge. Publishers need to be paid for their work, which researchers value, and the flow of this money from funders to publishers needs to be better organised.’
- Jaclyn Bedoya
Mike Taylor has a parable on the Guardian Blog about research communication and I thought it might be useful to share one that I have been using in talks recently. For me it illustrates just how silly the situation is, and how hard it is to break out of the mindset of renting access ...
- Cameron Neylon
okay, "BMC Motors" cracked me up. Well done.
- RepoRat
There seems to be a lot of it about. Another one by Kent Anderson overly on scholarly kitchen which to me kind of misses the point but I'm tempted to add a comment about how as a restaurant apologist he is continuing with the suppression of the development of "Food mining" which means that I am subjected to eating brussel sprouts rather than having them converted into objet d'art which would be a much better, and more easily consumed, use.
- Cameron Neylon
Kent Anderson misses the point, film at 11. I'll be more impressed when he actually GETS a point. Like, EVER.
- RepoRat
The brussel sprout is a tragically misunderstood vegetable. If prepared properly it can actually be quite tasty. In other words, they have very valid uses in both their mined and natural states.
- John Dupuis
I take my vegetables very seriously and the guys at Scholarly Kitchen with a LARGE pinch of salt.
- Graham Steel
Alright John, what about parsnips then? Surely much better as carved novelties?
- Cameron Neylon
You're all sick people....they're EVIL I tell you...!
- Cameron Neylon
Cauliflower is like broccoli without a taste. Just put tons of dip on it.
- Just Joe
hoooo-leeeeeee crap, did you see FakePLoS's latest? wow. and it's food-related!
- RepoRat
And now you made me click on KA's post and after the first three sentences, the stupid had severely overcooked my brain - it now looks and acts like cauliflower. will need all day to recover.
- Björn Brembs
Article-level metrics let you see how you're doing. Comments on the article let you carry out relevant discussions right where the paper is rather than off on a blog somewhere. In short, PLoS was designed from the ground up ...
Elsevier, FooBar and Content-mining – yet another Digital Land Grab – wake up academia and fight. Or surrender for ever - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
So important. #FRPAA doesn't solve this at all (PubMed Central can't be used for text mining). I'd like to hope #FRPAA is a positive incremental step toward text mining, but maybe energy will die without getting there. Should we be lobbying for inclusion of text mining rights in it now while energy is up, and or making it clear that we interpret #FRPAA as including text mining rights, or ?
- Heather Piwowar
Note that FRPAA doesn't actually mandate use of PMC so agencies have an opportunity to have differen repos with different rejuirements so there is the potential at least to do things better in the particular area of text mining
- Cameron Neylon
Checked more articles and added average. The minimum charge is actually 31.50. The only way they can make that claim is by factoring in OA articles at zero dollars - and even then it's doubtful and the usage of "per article cost" misleading.
- Björn Brembs
I'm sure the figure they have is based on subscription costs, not the per-article charges. That argument is a little more subtle - they've expanded page numbers faster than they've expanded charges. Of course if technology was being used effectively the cost per page should have dropped by an order of magnitude.
- Cameron Neylon
The point is that they could have taken the average of just a few chosen papers - or just made the numbers up. There's no way to check and what ways we have contradicts their statement.
- Björn Brembs
I just realized that I must have commented on the wrong post with my first comment. Sorry, it was early morning on a weekend with a toddler asking for attention... Now if I could find the post I wanted to comment on, the one with the Open Letter from Elsevier...
- Björn Brembs
'Tis time for kiwifoo again - this time with the wonderful prescence of Alex Holcombe (@ceptional). It would be great to get an idea of what things might be useful for us to try to explore. Here are some things I have been thinking about, but I would love to hear what y'all think might be worth trying to get done.
1. With Leonie Hayes (repositories at U of AKL) and @nickdjones (Centre for eResearch U AKL and involved in eresarch infrastcture for NZ) we want to run a session called 'Is New Zealand ready for Open Science'. We are Hoping Alex will join us. Both NZ and Oz have an 'open access mandate' (NZGOAL in NZ and I think it is called AUGOAL or something in Australia) whereby govt agencies are encouraged to deposit their data under creative commons. One of the people involved in NZGOAL will be there, and I would love to see Universities (or at least research funding bodies) listed in the NZGOAL (so far only crown research institutes are) One of the topics of converstaion in the planning with Nick and Leonie was to think a bit about what 'open science' is worth fighting for given the NZ (and OZ) contexts (which may be somewhat different from US and Euriope)
- Kubke
2. Daniel Mietchen's project: what are the next steps to see it forward. There will be people from enspiral (who looked at the code demands to get the 'github for science' platform - so I hope to have a serious sitdown to disccuss more specific things and next steps, funding, etc
- Kubke
3. Google funding - what kind of projects related to open science would google be happy to fund? If I manage to get a googler with enough information it might be worth thinking about targeting that kitty for some projects
- Kubke
That all sounds great, and I do wish I had real "prescence" which sounds like a great combination of presence and prescience :) Seriously, this will be a real education for me, I had never heard of AU/NZGOAL. My efforts lately have been more directed at open access for journals, simply because we got to ride the wave of the current anti-RWA uprising. But it'll be good to get my eye back...
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- Alex Holcombe
thanks Daniel for adding the link. Can you think of any specific questions you would like to have answered?
- Kubke
re GitHub for science, have been wondering about this sort of workflow, with things like SparkleShare (http://sparkleshare.org/) to support the humdrum of hiding the environment.
- Nick Jones
i'm equally interested in the ideas around how to support such projects, not just from the infrastructure. but what would funders need to do to support open science - we have soft compulsion in the form of the "where feasible" like clauses in recent MSI funding notes. What is needed for feasibility? Just infrastructure? what else?
- Nick Jones
Quick report back from #kiwifoo. Just got home with melted brain and the need to review a few documents for a meeting tomorrow. The short version:- 1. We did have a session on open science (well 2 really) and got wonderful feedback. I think that we can get good things going, and this is always good news.2. I got a good outline from Josh from enspiral regarding daniel's project, and now...
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- Kubke
RT @FakeElsevier: Everyone is crying about subscr. prices, but do you have any idea how expensive it is to buy congress these days? @DarrellIssa @RepMaloney
I'm in! APA drives me right around the bend.
- RepoRat
I just succeeded in convincing a lecturer not to switch from APA to Harvard for the poor 101 students, many of whom are doing this subject because they thought it wouldn't involve writing. Not like I love it, but I think I hate it least of any other style.
- Deborah Fitchett
I hate APA more than Chicago author-date style. That is better than any style that only has initials for first and middle names, no article titles, and no issue numbers. We NEED ALL THE CITATION ELEMENTS!
- Just Joe
The first thing we do is burn all the style manuals!
- Andy
Maybe we can get Anonymous to take down some related websites.
- Rochelle
APA is my preferred formet. why? Because you just cite everything like the basic paper citation (none of the "Downloaded from Some Library Database" silliness) -- or did all the other styles finally wise up to this too?
- awd
+ Andy - I wish no first year students had to learn how to write out citations, a skill most will never use again after college.
- barbara fister
APA is officially on my personal Notice Board for their ridiculous "if there is no DOI" policy.
- Catherine Pellegrino
not sure I like APA either, but the other styles I've used (ACS, Chicago) aren't much better. APA went down a notch for me when they published their separate electronic format guide in print-only,which we had to bind. We couldn't get a campus license for the electronic version either, as I recall.
- Elizabeth Brown
I use MLA (Medical not Modern) mostly these days. I've gotten to where I can proofread it without a whole lot of thinking and generally it seems pretty intuitive. But then, I learned by writing out 3x5 cards and losing points for lost periods or semicolons, so I'm biased.
- Hedgehog
Have you ever thought of yourself as a vector? To some life forms, you certainly are. Amongst them is the pepper mild mottle virus that transits your digestive tract before reaching target plants like pepper. In today’s Open Access File of the Day, … Continue reading →
- Daniel Mietchen
When the history of the Research Works Act, and the reaction against it, is written that history will point at the factors that allowed smart people with significant marketing experience to walk with their eyes wide open into the teeth of a storm that thousands of people would have predicted with complete confidence. That ...
- Cameron Neylon
The funders will have a strong impact in the biomedical publishing world with all of the NIH funding, but I am not sure how this will play out in chemistry or small lab physics or math(s) or small lab biology or...
- Just Joe