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Piece from me in Nature on #openaccess and licensing and the RCUK policy: http://t.co/hlNnrniQ (should be free to access)
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Expecting extensive abuse from the usual quarters in 3....2.....1......
- Cameron Neylon
What a pile of utter shi....
- Graham Steel
:-)
- Cameron Neylon
I've started so I'll finish - shine on the important issues of the day.
- Graham Steel
N.B. to Cameron who is on campus at Lund, yes, yer piece is OA !!
- Graham Steel
Oh, I think I now get the irony. This one is free but not open access. Correcty?
- Graham Steel
Yeh, I did what I could but no CC BY license....
- Cameron Neylon
Well, at the very least you tried. I owe you another? pint :-)
- Graham Steel
...nah no worries. The fee is going to Creative Commons...
- Cameron Neylon
What is Open Notebook Science? - http://research.iheartanthony.com/2012...
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Altmetrics and Librarians: How Changes in Scholarly Communication will affect our Profession - http://www.mendeley.com/c...
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Stacy Konkiel, Robert E. Noel et al. Published using Mendeley: The bibliography manager for researchers
- Mr. Gunn
So I have to register for Mendely to read it? Hmmm...not as onerous as a paywall, but it ain't OA.
- Walt Crawford
It's a bit hard to see the link, but the document is here: https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace...
- John Dupuis
Thanks. (Of course, I was most interested in the subtitle, and that part consisted of exactly one slide at the very end, so...)
- Walt Crawford
Manipulating Google Scholar Citations and Google Scholar Metrics: simple, easy and tempting - http://www.mendeley.com/c...
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Pages: 10. Emilio Delgado López-Cózar, Nicolás Robinson-García, Daniel Torres-Salinas et al. The launch of Google Scholar Citations and Google Scholar Metrics may provoke a revolution in the research evaluation field as it places within every researchers reach tools that allow bibliometric measuring. In order to alert the research community over how easily one can manipulate the data and bibliometric indicators offered by Google s products we present an experiment in which we manipulate the Google Citations profiles of a research group through the creation of false documents that cite their documents, and consequently, the journals in which they have published modifying their H index. For this purpose we created six documents authored by a faked author and we uploaded them to a researcher s personal website under the University of Granadas domain. The result of the experiment meant an increase of 774 citations in 129 papers (six citations per paper) increasing the authors and journals...
- Mr. Gunn
RT @MikeTaylor: This is a HUGE leap forward for sanity "eLife accepts ANY reasonably formatted reference list" http://rossmounce.co.uk/2012... Cf https://t.co/MhlTccOk
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Russell's Blog -- Why doesn't your lab have a 3D printer yet? - http://vort.org/2012...
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Tags: 3Dprinting resources
- Bill Hooker
We’ve reached a new milestone – here is the 100,000th article to be recommended on F1000 Prime: http://f1000.com/prime...
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Napster, Udacity, and the Academy. Sharp essay by Clay Shirky that deserves to be widely read as does this response from Doug Clow http://tinyurl.com/d3ftlvt - http://www.shirky.com/weblog...
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Though I detest the title of this piece by Eric Van de Velde about the forces at work in scholarly publishing, I like the analysis. - http://scitechsociety.blogspot.co.uk/2012...
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See also Godwin's Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Seb Schmoller
RT @opencontent: Harvard prof took a sabbatical year and spent it knocking on the door of every Harvard prof advocating for #openaccess policy. #opened12
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Now that's what I call Dedication !!!!!!
- Graham Steel
Springer is For Sale: http://news.sky.com/story... h/t @IanGibson11
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Hmmmmm.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
from iPod
I guess this is too big for the librarians to band together and buy. :)
- Rachel Walden
I can chip in $20.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
from iPod
Count me in for $20 as well.
- Heather Piwowar
... that's really interesting. They been reading Claudio Aspesi? Honestly, I think Springer's in a better position than the other big pigs. They have a good rep among libraries, a strong OA position, and generally not-stupid management.
- RepoRat
Kickstarter...
- Rebecca Hedreen
Agree with RepoRat. Springer is probably best placed out of the incumbent publishers and the more I hear the more impressed I am with their strategic thinking. Doesn't mean I agree with all of it of course but they're ahead of the game...
- Cameron Neylon
is this why we lost access to Springer journals yesterday??
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Hey, how profitable has PLOS ONE been? Does PLOS have enough money to buy Springer? :) I'm sure not, but it is fun to think of all the strange possibilities...
- Heather Piwowar
I could see PLoS buying BMC off Springer and consolidating some journals. Doubt they want to do the flip-work to own the whole enchilada -- plus it'd get them into book publishing, which I dunno if they want to tackle.
- RepoRat
Plos buying the bmc part would be interesting. Maybe they want to sell because the have a good reputation, and the are starting to see that OA may force thinner margins?
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
from iPod
Divide and conquer......
- Kubke
If they think STEM publishing is a bubble, then now is definitely the time to sell.
- RepoRat
I think Singapore wants to sell, not buy.
- RepoRat
Whoa.
- Marianne
Yipes. I hope nobody evil buys them and takes all the good bits out.
- barbara fister
Barbara jinxed it. Now I'm certain Elsevier will buy them. ;)
- Rachel Walden
aaaaaaaaaaagh noooooooooooooooooo
- RepoRat
I don't think Elsevier could afford them (PLOS certainly can't!) and it would almost certainly trigger a European Competition inquiry which I'm pretty sure would go against them...
- Cameron Neylon
Hey, I will use kickstarter to see if I can raise enough money to buy Springer!
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
You only need a couple of billion I think. Anyone got Larry's number?
- Cameron Neylon
Not him, Soros. Get Soros to buy it. To my considerable surprise, I think I'm making this suggestion seriously.
- RepoRat
Or Bill, for that matter. He's big on medical research, so...
- Walt Crawford
Combined - that's a SoroGate :-)
- Graham Steel
I don't trust Bill to resist the temptation to milk it for money. Soros I trust.
- RepoRat
Completely agree.....
- Graham Steel
RR: Really? I haven't heard of any profiteering in Gates Foundation medical or other work. He's pretty much retired from Microsoft. Seems to me they have a pretty good track record and, with Buffett's help, more money than anybody.
- Walt Crawford
Has he been tempted? STEM publishing is still biggish money for the time being.
- RepoRat
Open Access Report September 2012 - http://wir.okfn.org/2012...
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Since January, I have been posting a monthly summary of Open-Access-related activities pertaining to Wikimedia projects as part of the GLAM Newsletter on the Wikimedia Outreach wiki. From now on, I will post these reports also here on the blog … Continue reading →
- Daniel Mietchen
69% of physicians use some form of social media for work and 60% use Wikipedia professionally. http://nicolaziady.com/2012... #hcsm
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What would you do with 5M euro? - http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2012...
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Did anyone post a link to the ACS open letter yet? https://list.indiana.edu/sympa...
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we'll talk to you, but we won't necessarily do anything... but it is a very nice letter.
- Christina Pikas
JUST came across my email. I'mma read it now.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Huh
- maʀtha
I think Jenica should take their offer at face value and contact them to see if she can make a deal. ;-)
- DJF
Note that they say they're going to "expand their consultations with the library community" but don't specify how, where, and under what circumstances those "consultations" will occur. Like, in public? Or in individual phone calls? (The former labor organizer in me also notes that "consult" is code for "we'll ask your opinion and then ignore it.")
- Catherine Pellegrino
I guess when public relations fails, the sales and marketing people are called in.
- Andy
I guess the good news is that they bothered to respond at all. It was kind of looking like they were just going to ride it out without even acknowledging anything. On the other hand, the letter more or less says, "We're planning on riding this out without any meaningful response."
- John Dupuis
They seem to be good at the "no comment, yet here is a comment".
- Andy
I translated several sentences as "We like your money."
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Interesting that there is no problem/shame about publicly listing the "print" pricing: http://pubs.acs.org/userima... [pdf] but the online access pricing is on;y achieved via backroom dealings and a magic formula.
- awd
Brandon Nordin is the guy I've met with and talked to many times. He has always struck me as being a reasonable person, simply one who's out of touch with the reality of libraries. He's civil and willing to listen, though, in my experience, not always willing (or able) to respond as I would hope. He's offered to come to Potsdam to talk more, to see if we can find a way to resolve this...
more...
- Jenica
Someone should respond that they find little constructive dialogue in open letters and press releases. (I stole that joke and modified it from Jason in another thread.)
- Andy
All my jokes are CC-BY-NC.
- Jason P
Actually, since I took your joke and modified it, I will be happy to allow you the chance to buy back your humor from me.
- Andy
Andy, it's supposed to be that you "added value" to it
- Hedgehog
Right. Oh, and we can talk about pricing models on DMs.
- Andy
Arrrrrrrrg. That joke did not go through peer review first! Maybe I will start up a joke retraction watch blog.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
...which is a clear illustration of why OA jokes = no quality control = bad. I think we're done here.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Jenica, your university president sent me a wonderful email thanking me for supporting you. What a gem - I told him I knew he was lucky to have you, but now I know you're lucky that he has your back. This is rare.
- barbara fister
from iPhone
awwwwwwh! that is srsly epic win.
- RepoRat
wow. definitely epic win.
- Sarah
Barbara, he forwarded me his message and your reply earlier today. I thanked him for having my back on the day the Chronicle piece published, so he knows his position matters to me. I'm glad he also knows it matters to the community. :) (Fritz is a classic traditional scholar - latin american history - so this kind of debate hits home for him on a philosophical level. Without information sharing, why do we do what we do?)
- Jenica
Everyone should program, or Programming is Hard? Both! - http://scientopia.org/blogs...
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When you’re wrong on the message… - http://walt.lishost.org/2012...
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OK, here it is: A lot less eloquent and tl, but the best I could do.
- Walt Crawford
Looked fine by me.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
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American Chemical Society not winning any blogging friends these days - http://phylogenomics.blogspot.com/2012...
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The American Chemical Society: Paving paradise to put up a parking lot - http://scienceblogs.com/confess...
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It's gonna have legs if I have anything to say about it. Somewhat to my surprise, it seems I do. Expect more stuff.
- RepoRat
You beat me to it and did it better. Why am I not surprised? Ah well, one way you get legs is having different voices.
- Walt Crawford
Yes, legs it does seem to have. And hopefully legs will make a difference. And Walt, your post is different and definitely not worse. We all have different perspectives and so far most people have come from slightly different angles, making the larger point much better.
- John Dupuis
True enough. I'm tagging stuff for a possible future story...or not.
- Walt Crawford
New Zealand Open Source Awards - http://buildingblogsofscience....
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When I was contacted to be a judge for the New Zealand Open Source Awards, I was elated. When I was told there was to be an Open Science category, I could not contain my joy. The New Zealand Open Source Awards celebrate everything that is good about Open Source – mainly the opportunity to [...]
- Kubke
Our manifesto: “The Right to Read is the Right to Mine”; Universities: you must fight for Open Content Mining before it’s too late - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
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Peter - is http://www.dspace.cam.ac.uk/bitstre... in the intended format? I want to copy and paste from it. Seb Schmoller
- Seb Schmoller
Seb - I don't think I've seen PMR leaving a comment on FF before. Probably best to ask the same question on Twitter or better still, on the post itself ;-)
- Graham Steel
Graham - thanks. I will follow your advice. Seb
- Seb Schmoller
Scientific Utopia: II - Restructuring Incentives and Practices to Promote Truth Over Publishability by Brian Nosek, Jeffrey Spies, Matt Motyl :: SSRN - http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3...
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Tags: scienceisasnakepit openscience
- Bill Hooker
nice tag, lol
- Meg V. Meg
"Walking away from the American Chemical Society" from @jenica26 http://www.attemptingelegance.com/... I have to admit to doubt that anyone would jump 1st
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how do you mean?
- RepoRat
Intellectually I thought that someone had to go first and take the plunge, emotionally I doubted that any chemistry faculty would ever have the fibre to actually do it. Obviously it makes the difference if the library has significant backbone, which I suspect may have been deciding factor here.
- Cameron Neylon
*furious applause*
- Bill Hooker
Our library has never (as far as I know - at least for 15 years) subscribed to any ACS journal due to the cost.
- Andrew Lang
heh. SUNY Potsdam's library director does not lack backbone.
- RepoRat
^^^ that. :)
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Georgia State University gave a copy of Peter Suber's #OA book to every new faculty member and administrator! http://homer.gsu.edu/blogs...
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DUDE. <3
- RepoRat
Right, for V2.0 of the #Ingelfinger shirt, I need a list of Journals who still practice the Rule to "shame" 'em on the back of it. Some background at http://ff.im/Aonik
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Do you mean "The policy of considering a manuscript for publication only if its substance has not been submitted or reported elsewhere"? Don't *most* journals follow that rule, e.g. http://www.plosone.org/static...?
- Matt Hodgkinson
err, I'm a novice on the subject, so I'm going to enter a plea of a combination of "not guilty" and "insanity" at this juncture of the discussion. Yours sincerely, McDawg.
- Graham Steel
I think the point of the "campaign" is to focus on those journals that won't publish things that have appeared in preprint or other repositories, presented at conferences, have had some data shared, and use the Ingelfinger rule as an excuse...
- Cameron Neylon
A timely response, Cameron. Sounds good to me.
- Graham Steel
And a GoogleDoc for the list:- https://docs.google.com/spreads...
- Graham Steel
Is it worth differentiating journals that have problems with data DOIs (e.g. Cell and Anal Oncol http://f1000research.com/about...), published posters (e.g. this list http://f1000.com/posters...) or preprints (e.g. ESA http://jabberwocky.weecology.org/2012...) or are they all equally bad and of need of shaming?
- Scott Edmunds
Possibly for the spreadsheet, but I personally don't think so for the t-shirt. I think a key point of the "campaign" is to hopefully get some of these journals/publishers to alter their stance on the Rule !!
- Graham Steel
OK, makes sense!
- Matt Hodgkinson
Thank you, Sir Matt :)
- Graham Steel
Comment just in on Twitter from Ivan Oransky (he of Retraction Watch) "Great! Something to keep in mind is that it's the specter of Ingelfinger, not official journal policy, that's often the problem".
- Graham Steel
"the specter of Ingelfinger" -- now I want a t-shirt featuring the shambling undead corpse of Franz Ingelfinger, mumbling "preprints... preeeeepriiiiiints...."
- Bill Hooker
ROFL - gets up and strokes a white cat.
- Graham Steel
Bill, I am still aware of the "issue" of the polarity of the finger being the wrong way round but am too far into the project to change it. We are about to go into production mode. One might also add that there has been a fair amount of discussion about this today on Twitter that is not reflected here https://twitter.com/#!...
- Graham Steel
My next task (via crowd sourcing) is to create a 'word cloud' of the offenders for the back of the shirt. As matters stand, Cell & Science are "the biggies" IMO.
- Graham Steel
Just seen this very useful list of anti-pre-print journals that can be added to the list: https://docs.google.com/spreads...
- Scott Edmunds
Cool, thanks Scott. Was going to drop you a note over the weekend but my PC ended up goosed. Picked up a cheap 2nd hand laptop last night to get back online. Have just added in these anti-pre-print journals to the s/sheet. I would still prefer (ideally) a word cloud, but don't know how to create one...
- Graham Steel
Having a very quick play with wordle.net - if you paste the journals from your spreadsheet in (couldn't figure out how to get it to handle multiple words so abbreviations seemed to work well) I managed to get something like this: http://www.wordle.net/show.... You might want to do something more systematic than this very quick attempt (I only put the "red" journals in, and repeated ACS and NEJM a few times as particularly important examples).
- Scott Edmunds
The Remarkable Transformation of E-Biomed into PubMed Central - https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace...
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In 1999, NIH Director Harold Varmus proposed a national biomedical literature server called “E-Biomed.” E-Biomed reflected the visions of scholarly electronic publishing advocates: it would be fully searchable, free to access, and contain full text versions of both pre-print and post-publication biomedical research articles. However, in less than a year, the E-Biomed proposal was radically transformed, eliminating the pre-print section, instituting delays between article publication and posting to the archive, and changing the name to “PubMed Central.” This article examines the remarkable transformation of the E-Biomed proposal to PubMed Central by analyzing posts to an online E-Biomed discussion forum created by the U.S. governments’ NIH, and other forums where E-Biomed deliberations took place. We find that the transformation of the E-Biomed proposal into PubMed Central was the result of highly visible and highly influential statements made by publishers and scientific societies...
- Bill Hooker
Very interesting - reading it right now. Well spotted Bill :-)
- Graham Steel
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