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I really love following Joe Hewitt (http://friendfeed.com/joehewi...) discuss developing the Facebook iPhone app so openly on Facebook, Twitter, and FriendFeed (and open sourcing most of it at the same time). Sets a really high standard for transparency in product development. I hope more companies follow his example.

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Bret, the gang at FriendFeed do a good job as well. After consistently banging my head against Google's "Wall of Silence" the content here is incredibly refreshing. Thanks!! - Chris Myles

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This is what I exactly want to do. But, usually the next release is a top secret for many of the companies and it's very stressful to write even the concepts you are working on. - Burcu Dogan

I think most people would prefer to work this way, but it is worth noting how difficult that can be at a large, well-known company: individuals, the press and Wall St are trying to read something into every little thing you say or do, there are SEC rules to worry about, and so forth. I feel lucky that I work mostly on open source stuff at Google, so this doesn't affect me most of the time. - Joel Webber

Joel, I do understand the bigger issues at Google, I'm referring more to the product and support side. I've been getting some VERY bad vibes from other users and developers in the forums for Blogger, GFC, Picasa, Maps etc and their APIs. I've actually had people tell me to stop asking questions about GFC because no one from Google responds. Here I get the exact opposite feeling, from... more... - Chris Myles

chrismyles: some of the issues are cultural and others are technical. google support discussions used to be mailing lists, and wading through so many messages is time consuming. since moving to their forum system, the level of responses have improved somewhat and it seems the staff is better able to pick out topics to reply. the friendfeed platform is even better, and allows topics the community thinks are important to receive a higher priority. - Mike Chelen via IM

Powell Expresses Concerns Over Obama’s Packed Agenda - NYTimes.com - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...

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"Although he said he was on good terms with Mr. Obama and kept in touch with him, Mr. Powell’s cautionary criticisms offer another voice to both critics and supporters expressing worries about the expense associated with overhauling the health care system, one of the president’s top priorities. Congressional lawmakers return to Capitol Hill next week, under pressure to control the projected costs for legislation emanating in particular from the Senate Finance Committee." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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Deliciously audacious - Mark

How To Save The Newspapers, Vol. XII: Outlaw Linking - TechCrunch - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

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"Where does Judge Posner think all of these newspaper sites get their readers? It is mostly through links, not direct traffic. Removing the links would obliterate the majority of the online readership for many newspapers. Beyond that, extending copyright law to criminalize linking would cripple the entire Web. In all of these debates, newspapers are always placed somehow at the center of the Web, completely ignoring the millions of other sites out there which have nothing to do with news. Yet changes to copyright law to make linking illegal would have much wider, unintended consequences. I can’t believe I even have to explain why this is a bad idea." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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via http://friendfeed.com/kvox... - Bret Taylor

Whoa. Crazy. - Louis Simoneau

Whatever Posner's been smoking or injecting, I want some. WTF. - Chris Charabaruk '_'

Eric Schonfeld/TC further states: "I don’t need to ask your permission to link to your blog post or to a newspaper article online. That is just the way the Web works." - no, of course not. Not NOW. Which is what Posner would like to change back, apparently divide the world of media into two separate and unlinked domains: payable-for newspapers, etc., [=that's supposed to save them from... more... - ianf ⌘

If you don't want your site linked, put it inside a Flash app. ;) - Amit Patel

Apage satanas, Amit! Besides, it's not about preventing linking by technical means, Posner has floated a trial balloon for doing it the legislative way. Because that surely would prolong the life of an average American newspaper by, uhh, I don't know, 2 more years? - ianf ⌘

Just downloaded Firefox 3.5. Speedy and easy upgrade. Get yours here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US...

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Congrats to the Mozilla crew on the launch. - Bret Taylor

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I couldn't agree more. - Micah Wittman

Just about to. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

If anyone runs even one extension, this is a much read regarding compatibility: http://friendfeed.com/jeresig... - Micah Wittman

The dragging and dropping of tabs is really cool - I'm having fun dragging and dropping tabs in multiple windows :P - Wang Yip

It seems to be really really fast. - Peter Stuifzand

speed now is comparable to Google Chrome - will probably use Ffox more often now; I hope it is also more stable than previous version - Jeroen De Miranda

thanks, I love it. - azadeh

Subjectively, it doesn't seem as fast as chrome to me, atleast on startup. Start both FF3.5 and Chrome, and then quit them. Set them to a homepage of about:blank to see a bigger difference,. Now, relaunch. On OSX, I find Chrome starts atleast 2x quicker. Objectively, on my own benchmark, http://api.timepedia.org/benchma... , FF3.5 runs twice as slow at Javascript/DOM execution compared to Safari 4 on OSX. I'm amazed Nitro does such a good job compared to V8. - Ray Cromwell

I tried it out two days ago at home and it completely broke FriendFeed for me. I went back to 3.0 and the problems persisted. I had to re-install 3.0 to get it working right. Ugh. - Kevin Fox

I just upgraded. So far it's really snappy. I had no problems with FF (yay!). - Cyrus Lendvay

Upgrade? Speedy. Browser itself? Not so much (not at all in the same ballpark as Safari 4 or Chrome). For static pages, it's fine, but for complex apps, it's still sluggish. - Joel Webber

Joel: maybe it is my laptop, but I can't stand Safari 4. Even loading that initial fancy 3D recent pages screen takes forever. I know everyone says it's fast, but I just don't experience it that way. Can't wait for the final version of Chrome for the Mac. - Bret Taylor

Just upgraded. Fastest 3.x version from what I've seen so far. - Burcu Dogan

You can disable the Saf4 'top sites' stuff. It's laggy to render, I agree, an un-needed gimmick. I prefer Chrome's top-sites. FF is still the top browser as far as extensions and developer friendlyness go, but I think they long ago lost the speed war to WebKit based browsers, especially on mobile platforms. All of that developer friendliness, XUL-goodness, etc adds bloat to the UI layer. - Ray Cromwell

Plus, I'm really peeved that they decided to ship with a nasty regression to Event.relatedTarget (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bu...) that we told them about some time ago :( - Joel Webber

@Bret: I'm with you on that -- I hate the top-sites page (I've been too lazy to disable it, but still). They also moved the tabs back to the bottom at the last minute, which blows. But my biggest complaint about Safari 4 is that they seem to have added the --now_with_more_bloody_beachballing build flag. I also happily await a fully-baked Chrome-on-Mac. - Joel Webber

I love it - Did a quick review for The Tech News Blog: http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009... - Jim Connolly

Bret - I am using Chrome more and more - love it! I'd fully switch over, but it lacks addon's FF browser has - Susan Beebe

Here's a link for a nice little program to backup Firefox profiles http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ I know it doesn't support 3.5 just yet but it will eventually .. it's the only thing I know of that works for what it does reliably - JohnBfromMemphis via twhirl

really fast. amazing - Emre Akbudak

no omnibox -> firefox only second choice - Chris Hofmann

The new Firebug1.4 that goes with firefox3.5 seems like a step backwards: there is no way to turn it on only for specific tabs and not others, and if I have gmail open then turning on firebug for any tab quickly brings firefox3.5 to it's knees (I'm on linux). - Evan Parker

this one is really great... but did they have to break Tab Mix Plus?? :) - Tim Hoeck

it's not broken for me .. try this http://tmp.garyr.net/forum... - JohnBfromMemphis via twhirl

Bret - I just downloaded it, based on your post, and WOW you're right it ROCKS :) thanks! - Susan Beebe

Will it restart my current windows after the upgrade? Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't and I don't want to lose my 26 windows. - Todd Hoff

evan: chrome for linux. - Gregor J. Rothfuss

@rothfuss: I installed Chrome 2 for linux about a month ago and it wasn't quite ready, installed chrome 3 just now and it appears to be a bit more fleshed out. We'll see if it is good enough to replace FF3 for me. How is the js debugger? - Evan Parker

Thanks, John! I forgot about the dev build. - Tim Hoeck

Tim: you probably don't need Tab Mix Plus any more. In FF 3.5, you can drag tabs among windows (and into new windows) and doing so doesn't even reload the page any more. - Tudor Bosman

I'm waiting Ubuntu archive to propagate that out - Juvenn Woo

So far seems much better than the last version for Mac. Kinda weird that there's no back button, though.... - Darren Lewis

TRUE - Nitin Nanivadekar

Downloaded it tonite....quick, no problems. Only lost one add-on....tiny url...no loss there! Much faster....love it! - Bonnie

I have still a back button with 3.5. - Cyrus Lendvay

What i enjoy the most is the new bookmarks bar that enables to stock more favicon than ever ! Chrome should really do the same - Stanislas Jourdan

FriendFeed now 6x more awesomer with themes - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...

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Choose your theme at http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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I'm a Blue Wave man myself. - Bret Taylor

Nice, but I think I like the Classic style the best. :) When can designers submit more themes, or users upload their own? - Pistos

That wouldn't have anything to do with Google Wave, now would it? - Daniel Sims

Who would believe that *I* would be using the "Flowers" theme? :) - Ana

Helvetica - Christopher

Pistos: user submitted themes are coming soon. - Bret Taylor

Pistos: It's in the blog post. ;-) - Kevin Fox

I'm trying Blue wave. Nice. - Judy Jones

I prefer to keep things Fresh - Dan Hsiao

oooooh boy!! - Micah Wittman

Nice! how much control over theming when user submitted comes out? Twitter-like? more? Sharable? - Justin Hart

Helvetica for now. - James Fuller

Whoops, didn't even see that there's a blog post. Sorry. :) - Pistos

Justin: most of that (user submitted, shareable, etc) is coming, this is just a first step. - Bret Taylor

Awesome. - Justin Hart

thank you jesus - Sarah Perez

This is awesommeee!! - Burcu Dogan

Thanks :) - Tracy Benham

Nice - Kreg Steppe

*awesome* I <3 Helvetica! - Sparky, king of carbs

Helvetica for sure! - Burcu Dogan

This was all due to Kevin's (http://friendfeed.com/kfury) hard work in case it wasn't obvious. Great job, Kevin! - Bret Taylor

Looks like I signed on just in time today. - Yolanda

Thanks guys. Rockin Helvetica for now. Needs the FF logo though. - Andrew Smith

Helvetica for now. - Darryl

This post came when I was thinking how FF logo is a Twitter look-like. Dont change the Helvetica version! - Burcu Dogan

Thanks.. but I'm not a big "theme" guy... I'd rather see updates to the API... I guess I should be hammering Ben for that :) - Tim Hoeck

ohhhhh snap! - Nathan Chase

Niiiiceeeee. - Simon Wicks

I chose Fresh! - David Schmidt

It became clear as soon as the FriendFeed Themes room was taken over. - Andrew Trinh

Awesome! - Frankie Warren

thank you! - Alfredo

Do any of the feeds have the highlight options of AJ's theme? Or the Service Favicons from Micah? - Matthew DeVries

Very nice. Like the Helvetica myself for the moment, but that will probably change in a week or two. - Alex Hellstrom

Helvetica! awesome. BTW, pause button is clipped by a couple of pixels on WebKit browsers. - Kelly Norton

Nice one, though we need more themes... - Kaan Ertürk

+1 to Helvetica! - Joel Webber

Helvetica is loveable but I wish it was white, black and red instead of being just 1-bit. - Berk D. Demir

sorry guys. my helvetica edition more beauty :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Burak Dönertaş

haha :) thanx for that. - Ahmet Alp Balkan

helvetica ;) - Faruk Kaymak

@Burak, yup, more beauty ♥ - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

Yeah, great job bro. i like the Helvetica edition - Simto Alev

"Bamboo" suggests there's a picture, but all I see is brownish colours, at that don't match the friendfeed logo. - Peter

I like "fresh" - Peter

I like Blue Wave. Fresh should be the default theme and the Classic should be dumped. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

MIcah says his scripts still work with the themes btw: http://ff.im/4DlX9 - Kol Tregaskes

OMG LOVE!!! - BEX Happy Long Weekend

Perhaps post your favourite theme and whether you like or dislike the themes in the new *official* FF-Themes group here: http://ff.im/4DluG :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Peter, there should be an image inthe lower right corner. What browser/OS are you using? Thanks! - Kevin Fox

this is great! - Joe Pestro

Be Gone Grey! - Eric @ CS Techcast

Blue Wave for me :) - Great work FF! - Roy Herrod

You guys flippin ROCK - BEX Happy Long Weekend

Why are they all so girly? - Gabe

@Kevin Fox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6 - Peter

I'm with Gabe: after considering BlueWave, I went with Helvetica, everything else is just girly. I might just stick with my 'stylish' hacks. - Joel Bennett

Yea, flowers and stuff are annoying. Helvetica version should be improved for better spacing. - Burcu Dogan

Thanks, Kol, that's what I was going to ask - if themes conflict with scripts. Sounds like it's cool - heading off to choose one now. I have one stylish userrstyle script and two greasemonkey scripts applied to friendfeed. We'll see if they can all play nice. - Laura Norvig

Laura, how'd it go? - Rochelle

works great - I'm trying helvetica now. It's super clean because I have avatars removed. Me likey. - Laura Norvig

cool... when is that nasty orange "ParisLemon" theme comin? :P - Susan Beebe

This'll make it prettier when I'm using Chrome anyway. :) I think I'll stick with the Stylish scripts and hacks on Firefox, though - I like the typography modifications they provide. When user-generated themes come in, will they be able to modify the typography/spacing, or just the background and colors? Thanks for the options, guys! - Jandy

Thanks Bret. Hel-vet a lot better. - E-Advocate Network

Thanks Bret, I love the Helvetica theme, btw, your new avatar is awesome:))) - K.D.

Helvetica. WIN - Jamie

Tres cool. - Jason Toney

It's good that ugliness is no more reason #1 to stop connecting. Next I would like to have is d&d to sort out friends in categories - Michele Costabile

Helvetica... Minimalism. Thank you! :D - Brandon

Thanks, FF team! - Anne Bouey

Good stuff! Thanks! - Rick Cogley

Great! - Shun Fukuzawa via twhirl

Helvetica! Clean:) - Dave

Try this Helvetica - http://userstyles.org/styles... - ThenWang

Bret, BIG MAHALO for the themes! I'm going Hawaiian! Check me out! http://friendfeed.com/AlohaAr... - Arleen Anderson

Helvetica definitely :) - Ahsan Ali

Flowers & Butterfly Corner are good,but a little bit girl stuff.Any good theme for a guy? - Steve Chou

YAY! - Alli Worthington

Coolness! - Ron Bailey

I like the Helvetica, who created it? - Juvenn Woo

Sorry, but were there no "real" designers to push out some mindblowing themes? It´s just a change of color and background? - Hans Kainz

Helvetica one is awesome! - Yoan

Like those themes. Would be nice though, if they also show up if someone visits my page. Or does it? - Sven

When I click your name, Sven, I get the bamboo theme, which is what I chose. If you have chosen a different theme from that, we know it just remembers yours. It seems to work differently from twitter. - Rick Cogley

It's Helvetica for me! - Rui Pires

I think i'm going bamboo... - diego morelli

Helvetica all the way! I feel like the nytimes.com - Liviu Barbat

@Rick: Thanks. I get the idea. The twitter concept would be nice though. Like personalized version of the FF page. Now, if there were archive links now..... - Sven

Finally! I'll go with freeeeesh!:) - Patrik Johansson

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FriendFeed mention at 1:38. Thanks for finding this, Jess! - Bret Taylor

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Awesome!! - Rachel Lea Fox

Watching TV on friendfeed....how cool! - Craig Shipp

Never thought musicals can be so lovely :) - topo

Supreme Court Clears Way for Wider Use of DVR - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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"The Supreme Court on Monday delivered a blow to the television networks when it declined to hear a case about a digital video recorder technology, opening the gate for wider use of DVR systems. The case began in 2006 when Cablevision Systems, the New York-area cable operator, announced plans for what is called a network DVR system. With it, a customer would use a remote control to digitally record a program like “60 Minutes” but instead of storing the show in the customer’s at-home DVR box, the technology would store the show on a faraway Cablevision server." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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Sounds very promising. (Initially - looking and seeing more negative response, per link below) - Louis Gray

Rather that repeat, my comments are in this feed on concerns: http://friendfeed.com/bluesun... - manielse

I'm as of yet not seeing how this is negative. The Second Circuit decision is at http://www.publicknowledge.org/pdf... and it holds two things: that buffering for a short period of time does not infringe the reproduction right, and that playing a recording made for a user at their request to that same user is not a public performance. Those are very... more... - Daniel Dulitz

The concerns are over control. Quite simply, this may in the future force you to use your cable providers cloud-based DVR and HDMI DRM can prevent you using a Hard Drive Based service in your own home. This can lead to unnecessary monthly pricing and a way to discourage the use & growth of Media Centers which of course hinders InternetTV growth. What I find wrong about this the most is... more... - manielse

Manielse, can you point to something in the Second Circuit decision that "may in the future force you to use your cable provider's cloud-based DVR?" - Daniel Dulitz

Also, I'll argue that a one-to-many storage design that will be done to save space should be defined as a public performance of reproduction. I don't recall the name of the company but a cloud-based company had a similar model for MP3. The user needed to upload the MP3 to prove they legally had the songs but the company only stores the song once and added links to all consumers that have that song in the library. This was declared not legal. - manielse

Sorry missed a piece of the PDF that changes my last post. (3) the playback of those copies (each of which was recorded separately for each consumer, even if thousands of consumers separately chose to record the same show) was not a public performance, since each copy could be played only by the consumer who recorded it. - manielse

In response to "may in the future force you to use your cable provider's cloud-based DVR?", why would the Second Circuit decision include this? This wouldn't have been included in the court case versus Hollywood but rather a speculated result. With technologies like "image constraint tokens" (http://tinyurl.com/mnsfxu which HDCP is used to protect the display path over which the video... more... - manielse

Manielse, then I don't understand why you object to how this turned out. I'm no fan of HDMI either but that has nothing to do with this case. Everyone is strictly better off after this decision than before, and while the Supremes could have reversed that and made us all worse off, they didn't. That is good. - Daniel Dulitz

You're right Daniel, from an Electronic Frontier Foundation & legal perspective this is good as it is declared not copyright infringement (and surely help Google too). I guess I simply just have a mistrust of the cable industry and see possible negative ripples from the Cloud. I believe this benefits Cable and hurts both the "Traditional DVRs", Satellite Providers and ultimately... more... - manielse

I think what manielse is saying, in a nutshell, is that the law is moving in a good direction, but the benefits of the way that service providers are actually applying the technology are more dubious. - Brian Chang

Exactly Brian, Thank you! - manielse

Manielse: I think the "cloud-based company [with] a similar model for MP3" you're referring to is MP3.com and their "MP3 locker" service. Here's the RIAA's take on it: http://www.riaa.com/newsite... - Laurence Gonsalves

Hilarious pundits R&B remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (via http://friendfeed.com/shellen...)

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As a part of our redesign launch, you can post to FriendFeed by emailing share@friendfeed.com, and you can get your feed delivered via email (you can even comment by replying to the messages). See more here: http://friendfeed.com/share...

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You can post to a room by emailing <groupname>@friendfeed.com and direct message by emailing <username>@friendfeed.com - Bret Taylor

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That's cool. - Andrew Smith

did i just notice the new bookmarklet too? - patrick

brilliant! - Edward Zwart

Awesome! - Anthony K. Valley ©

I assume we need to send the email from the primary email set up on our FF account? - Kevin Whalen

Hehehe... Nice :D - Johnny Worthington

You can add email addresses to your account from your settings: http://friendfeed.com/... - Bret Taylor

You can post from any email address associated with your account. Email notifications will go to your primary address. - Tudor Bosman

Currently, we support automatic posting (without going through an "approve" page) for Gmail, Yahoo, and MSN/Hotmail/Live.com. We will add more email providers in the future, and we will also have a technical document on what an ISP needs to do in order to get added. - Tudor Bosman

I thought a saw a "hello world" yesterday that got deleted rather quickly :) - Frankie Warren

Isn't this a huge spam vector? All I have to know is someone's email address to mail from and I can send stuff to FF? - Brian Sullivan

Brian: we use a number of methods including SPF to verify that emails came from the actual owner of the email address. If we can't verify, we make the entry go through an approval step before it is posted. - Bret Taylor via email

What Bret said; that's why we only support a few email providers right now. - Tudor Bosman via email

You should add more Twitter sharing options, so that I can have emailed-posts automatically tweeted. (like by emailing twitter@friendfeed.com). Then FF can become a replacement for services like twitpic - Daniel Sims

So I could get spammed just by needing to approve posts that didn't come from me? - Brian Sullivan

I don't see any way to turn it off for my account - does such a feature exist? - Brian Sullivan

I just tried to send an email to a private group from a different email account and the request to approve it was sent back to the email address from which I sent the direct message. Is this the intended behavior? - Shakeel Mahate

Shakeel: Yes. In order to approve the post, you have to log in to FriendFeed if you aren't logged in already. - Tudor Bosman

Brian: as Shakeel noted, the approval request will be sent to the email address that was used to post. If someone is trying to spam, they will receive the approval request, not you. In order to approve, though, they would have to log in to FriendFeed, so they can only impersonate you if they know your FriendFeed password. - Tudor Bosman

Wow this is awesome. - Mona Nomura

It is sent to the address that the user claimed does it not ? If they claimed to be me I would get the request? Spam may be an over statement -- but it certainly could be annoying. - Brian Sullivan

Curious if setting the reply to different than the from will have effect on this? registered with yahoo, but yahoo sends out all mail with gmail as reply to... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Brian, that is correct. We will address this issue if it becomes a real problem; we do have some spam-prevention measures in place. - Tudor Bosman

Rob: you need to associate with your account the address that you send from (that is, the address in the From: header). - Tudor Bosman

Tudor, I think your solution is brilliant, thank you. - Shakeel Mahate

And an IM bot - that would make my work interface a breeze - Nicholas Paul Gordon via Nambu

Nicholas: The IM bot is there. Just set it up and use it :-) I'm getting some notices now....going to test sends in a sec - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Tudor: thanks for the clarification - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Nicholas: we have been supporting IM notifications and replies by IM for a while now. Is this not working for you? See http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Tudor Bosman

Tudor: I'm not seeing IM notifications on "comments on posts I commented on" (and maybe same for posts I liked - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: we just added that feature last night, so yeah, it's possible that there are some bugs. Looking into it. - Tudor Bosman

Thanks Tudor. I'll be keeping an eye out for it...I've only got those set (but I did get blasted before I turned off the "Home Feed" notifications - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

pretty cool - Shevonne

If you're not using Gmail, Yahoo, or whatever, do you have to approve each time you post something? - Tom Landini

What happened to the stats page that was with the old interface? - Russ Jackson

this is a gr8 feature.. - Amit

Tom: yes, for now, but stay tuned for improvements. - Tudor Bosman

Thanks Tudor. - Tom Landini

Not seeing IM posts to @me going thru. :( This makes me a sad panda. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Added another mail to stream via cellphone, but confirmation reply never came in, a bug maybe? - Nir Ben Yona

great stuff! i mean ..stuFF .... thanks! ..you are the befft ! .. and will be even beffer .. Im quite sure about that .. LoFFe all the new ffeatures. ! ......... do you think to enable also x@ff.im? it might be handy, save typing - Petr Buben

AND you guys successfully omitted email signatures from DMs and posts! - Mona Nomura

is that new Mona? The last DM I sent via email included my signature. (was a few days ago) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

is there email notifications for groups?? i know you can post to groups via email, but i dont see the way to turn on emails out of groups. - Frankie Warren

So that means no more using the remote key in the email address? That's SWEET. - Jandy

Frankie—Not yet. For now you can add the groups you'd like to receive notifications for to a friend list and enable email notifications for that list. - Dan Hsiao

Dan: Thanks for the work around... I hope a more intuitive method eventually shows up :) - Frankie Warren

Sweet! - TheHenry

Hey everyone reading this on Twitter - come join the party on Friendfeed :) - Phill Price

I leave for a few hours and FF Co. goes and WINs all over the place. Can't leave you alone for a second :) - grant fox

Mona, Rob: we tweaked the email signature detection code a bit, and should get rid of the default signatures from iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo phones, as well as small variations (HI MONA). If you want to ensure that your signature gets dropped, configure the signature to include "-- " (two dashes and a space) on a line by itself before the actual signature text. - Tudor Bosman

Bret, it looks good, liking the new email and IM features. I've still got a huge suggestions and bug list. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Grant, I went off to watch a rare bit of TV then come back to all this! LOL. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

The notifications rock ! Great work ! - Ahsan Ali

wow, this is very impressive - Peter Efland

I could not post via email, because I guess I never confirmed my email address. I updated my email with the same one and clicked on the link that was subsequently sent to me. Now posts via email work. - Chip Ramsey

Is old interface via mail2ff going anywhere? I'd like to continue authorizing my posts with remotekey. - Alex Kapranoff

Alex: mail2ff will continue to work - Bret Taylor

The mails I send on share@friendfeed.com won't show up. I'm using GMail. Is there a issue? - Ryo

Ryo -- is your gmail address in your ff list of email addresses? - Brian Sullivan

Brian, yes, I added it about an hour ago and made it the primary and only one. - Ryo

Ryo: That may be the same thing that was happening to me. Did you try to add the same email address again? It should fire a confirmation email that provides a link. After I clicked the link, I was then able to send posts via my email. - Chip Ramsey

Chip, it was a new mail address... Will try it again. EDIT: Ahh, now after removing the new address and re-entering it worked. Will test some more. - Ryo

Ryo: BTW, I'm also on gmail and everything works fine now, so gmail itself probably is not the problem. - Chip Ramsey

Nice... I will update my contact list asap! Feature heaven...mmmm - Susan Beebe

Any word on getting other mail addresses to only need authorization once? Have to approve my emails from my cell phone every time is a royal pita!! Pretty please make att.net a single-authorization mail????? Especially since it's an authorized address!! - RudĩϐЯaЯïaȵ

I'm with Rudi. I'm also with ATT.net so will wait for solutions. Molly - Molly via email

So should we replace the old <username>+plaza360demos@mail2ff.com with share@friendfeed.com ? - scott willeke

Help Paul Buchheit choose where he should donate his money: http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2009...

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Direct link to Google Moderator: http://moderator.appspot.com/#15... - Bret Taylor

Why legendary game developer John Carmack shelved his ego and sold id to ZeniMax | VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2009...

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"We made changes a couple of years ago where we decided to get away from doing just one project every four years. There were structural reasons why we had to do that. There was the pace of technology and how long it took to create a new game technology. Then there was the time it took to train the game team how to use the technology to make a game. It was clear that we had to leverage our technology and get things into a pipeline. All the publishers were telling us that it was wise to license out our intellectual property to get more projects under way at once. The publishers told us that we would be more valuable to them if we built our team larger. So we listened to that. We took games pretty far into development on our own nickel before pitching the publishers. That’s what we did with Rage. That was our plan of record." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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Ah, drop it.. i am still in love with doom 95.. hmm idkfa, iddqd!! :)) - Bahriye Sarıkaya

idbehold! - Christopher

idspispopd! - Christopher

iddqd ? oops, didn't see that bahriye already posted it - Wang Yip

heh i think there was idnoclip too - Wang Yip

Still trying to wrap my head around id Software permanently joining a publisher as junior partner. This is *very* different from how id operated over the last 20+ years. - Mustafa K. Isik

@Wang: \o/ - Bahriye Sarıkaya

If Internet Commenters Had a Magazine [PIC] - http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy...

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This month's top articles: "Losing Your Virginity: Is It Really as Great as Everyone Says It Is" and "Shut Up, Fag! Ten Great Responses to Pwnage" - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

via http://friendfeed.com/veronic... - Bret Taylor

:D - vijay

Launch a big feature, drink a billion martinis. What could go wrong?

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Don't worry. I'm holding down the fort (the martini I had at lunch has since worn off) - Benjamin Golub

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All of our fates are no in the hands of Ben and Gary!! We are counting on you guys. ;) - Rachel Lea Fox

wait, i thought it was only supposed to be 3 martinis... how does 3 = a billion? *ponders the math* - Rachel Lea Fox

We have gotten to 3. Ana was proven wrong. The 3 martini lunch is back. - Bret Taylor

That's my motto - minus the "launch a big feature" part. - MG Siegler

Rachel: A journey of a billion martinis begins with a single glass... - Brian Johns

I'm not sure lunch is long enough Brian. - Rachel Lea Fox

Ahem. It was *only* 28. - Ana

that hallow tomato face on the plate is scary! : - Petr Buben

DRINK UP! - Nathan Chase

3 martini launch *hic* - Karim

çok özel görünüyor - Lale Beril

Lale burda herkez türkçe konusuyo, de mi? - ideali

awesome - launch parties rule :O - Susan Beebe

You should have 3M on Mondays so it'll end up as 3 martinis on mid-day mondays. - imabonehead

FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...

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"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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That's the new hawtness! - Alex Scoble

wow - nicefishfilms

whoa! - vijay

SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA - Josh Haley

Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

the game just changed - chrisofspades

Haha! Nice... - WorldofHiglet

nice - endiaferon

This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list. - Kol Tregaskes

Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint... - sean andersen

Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again. - Kol Tregaskes

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit? - Frankie Warren

this has awesomesauce all over it - Alfredo

is video an option? - Zee.

We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff. - Bret Taylor

Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication? - Mark Trapp

No video at the moment, Zee. - Ross Miller

Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com? - chrisofspades

So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox> - nickrw

nice! - Mike Bracco

So, no BluRay rips, then :p - Josh Haley

Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable). - Bret Taylor

Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect. - Bret Taylor

Very Nice - Brent:Too Cool for School

neat-o! - tinym dot com

Bret - is music an option? - Zee.

WIN - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Any other files that don't work with it? - Kol Tregaskes

What's the file attachment size limit? - imabonehead

Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that? - Frankie Warren

@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff." - Dan Hsiao

@Dan, thx - imabonehead

Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported - Dan Hsiao

Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above. - Kol Tregaskes

MP3s? - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day). - Bret Taylor

Yay, no more rapidshare! :) - Kaan Ertürk

OK, but any format? - Kol Tregaskes

I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me] - Philipp Lenssen

Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

LOL, Tina. - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported? - Kol Tregaskes

pretty cool! - Bryan Penczak

Tina++, Holy Crap! :) - Rahsheen ™

music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga... - Alfredo

Bret: What about attachments to comments? - sean andersen

Swwwweeeettttt!!! - Jannifer Stoddard

Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry.... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Greatissimo :) - Stanislas Jourdan

Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw? - Kol Tregaskes

Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server? - Frankie Warren

Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock. - Mitch

Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images? - Kol Tregaskes

Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating? - Akiva Moskovitz

I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :) - Carlos Ayala

I think you can support them by buying the FF swags. - imabonehead

cool - Siavash

and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY - chrisofspades

NIIIIIIIIIIICE - Pedram

Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :) - JA Castillo (جاسون)

JA, agree. - Kol Tregaskes

Chris, cool. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code. - imabonehead

mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Thierry, yep MP3s are supported. - Kol Tregaskes

this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind. - Mike Elliott

Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood. - JA Castillo (جاسون)

Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?! - JA Castillo (جاسون)

If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it). - Kol Tregaskes

JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cool stuff - Tyson Key

Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest? - Tyson Key

Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition! - Holger Eilhard

NaFFster! :) - jcunwired

Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;) - Tyson Key

this is GREAT! - Cee Bee

Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1.. - Daniel Sims

Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :) - Victor Ganata

Hey Bret, are these virus-checked? - Jordan Hofker

@Jordan - good question - andy brudtkuhl

Jordan, good shout. - Kol Tregaskes

The moment I read this I updated my AV program. - jcunwired

Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type? - Cliff Gerrish

Jordan- yes, we virus scan them. - Casey Muller

Cool, Casey. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL Victor ... true that. Well done FF team. - Amani via IM

Awesome, thanks Casey. - Jordan Hofker

Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time. - Casey Muller

Haha, Victor. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit? - Jordan Hofker

search by file type? - Jason Wehmhoener

Jason, good shout. - Kol Tregaskes

Jordan - what is **AA's ?? - Jannifer Stoddard

This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's. - Gil Francisco III

This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community. - Johnny Schroepfer

Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF. - Kol Tregaskes

This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;) - Frankie Warren

Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned - Richard Walker

Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky. - Jordan Hofker

Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea? - Jason Nunnelley

.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line? - Christopher Harley

How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good! - Richard Walker

yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc. - Nathan Chase

Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment." - Ross Miller

\m/ - metalerik

abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love** - Ahmet Alp Balkan

Jason, I might be with you on this one. - Johnny Schroepfer

Awesome! Nice job, guys - Evan Sims

This is nice! Very nice! - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Yippie-kai-yay :)))) - A.T.

Thanks, Ross. The paid app, iProRecorder http://www.iprorecorder.com/ suffers the same limitations. - Christopher Harley

NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team! - AJ Batac

Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :) - Dilip Dand

Very Cool !!! - Eric Logan

I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato. - Miss Elle

Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target? - Travis Koger

@ Travis: I was just wondering the same. - Brian Chang

Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message? - Jason Nunnelley

"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler. - Christopher Harley

seriously useful. - Calvin Ayre

I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred. - James Fuller

Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users? - Fleagle

this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done! - K.D.

that is AWESOME! - Lindsay is :)

Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks. - James Fuller

Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work! - michael silverton

Kudos on the added features! - Eric @ CS Techcast

可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。 - 老巫师

哇塞，这个强的。 I like it. - xiawinter

Wow. Just wow. Thanks. - Laura Norvig

NICE! Thanks for the info. - SoMuchMoreThanAMom

Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>. - ianf ⌘

Oh, very awesome! - Scott Magdalein

It's *machine code*. - Karl Knechtel

Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- - Chris Charabaruk '_'

So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :) - Ahsan Ali

That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy... - James Fuller

Excellent! Thank you! - Diego Barros

What? No way, this is marvelous! Great. I hope who have enough space on our servers. You'll need it. :) - Ryo

"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...) - Ozkan Altuner

Speaking of copyright etc. I thought it instantly. I already saw copyrighted mp3 files here, and it will be only a matter of time before all kind of questionable stuff will be available here. How will Friendfeed solve this problem? It's a great function and a major step for FF, but I hope you guys have really thought about it extensively before you made that decision. - Ryo

Ah and on that audio files... Please consider to support .3gp sound files, too. So Android users can upload voice recordings from their phones, too. That would be nice. - Ryo

Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool! - Ozkan Altuner

Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please? - Richard Walker

Must you force downloads on HTML files? - ...Vezquex

This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity. - Rick Cogley

Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start. - Ubuntu101

Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast? - Ubuntu101

Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit?? - Chris Loft

embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat. - JohnBfromMemphis via twhirl

I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice. - JohnBfromMemphis via twhirl

:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net) - ...Vezquex

Thx! FF continues to rock :) - Krishnamoorthy.K

why the limit on audio files? - tylergillies

Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format... - Tyson Key

Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far. - Tyson Key

wow :) - Mucio

I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more? - Dnl

anyone know the file size limit? - Julian Seery Gude

thanks for the heads up on this feature - Freemor via IM

To add to the comment made by Tyson Key: That's the same format that Android uses. AMR .3gp. So this format is used by some phones. - Ryo

My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right? - Daniel J. Pritchett

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! - Micah Wittman

FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means... - Mitch

*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :) - Susan Beebe

oh heck yes - Shey

Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-( - April Russo

Jon Stewart on Sanford's affair: "Another politician with a conservative mind and a liberal penis."

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It had me cracking up like crazy ... he was definitely on his game today! His Kim Jong Il piece was also pretty hilarious ... - Bo Stern

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lol! - vijay

that is funny. a liberal penis. i get it - Christopher

a liberal penis reminds me of someone in Italy... - Mariela De Marchi Moyano

WTF: David Fincher to Direct The Facebook Movie? | /Film - http://www.slashfilm.com/2009...

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"when Golden Globe nominated screenwriter/producer Aaron Sorkin had joined Facebook and announced that he was writing a Facebook movie for mega-producer Scott Rudin. Today Variety offers an unbelievable follow-up, filmmaker David Fincher (Fight Club, Se7en, Benjamin Button) is in “advanced talks” with Columbia Pictures to direct the film, which has been titled The Social Network." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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Oh definitely WTF! I wonder how many cameos Zuckerberg will make in this film! - Travis Koger

um....why is there even a movie about this? i'd rather see a movie about paint drying. - Mike VanLare (slayerboy)

Who is going to direct the Friendfeed movie? - arjo

@Arjo ...Michael Bay, looks like he'll need something different, now that he's apparently killed the Transformers "franchise." .LOLz - .LAG liked that

arjo: Will the FF movie be the more successful sequel to the Facebook movie... you might have slipped out a secret there! - Travis Koger

@Mike ...as someone in another thread said, "They made a movie about E-mail with 'You've Got Mail?'" ...so why not a film about getting Super-Poked, or getting tagged in a compromising photo that then gets posted on your "Wall" and shared by everyone you've ever known in life, including the kid you picked on in third grade...who's now an ax murderer! ;)) - .LAG liked that

@LAG HA! good point! - Mike VanLare (slayerboy) via IM

Most important: What is this movie about? - Christopher

I like that the movie is going to be based on a book called "The Accidental Billionaire: The Founding of Facebook, a Tale of Sex, Money, Genius, and Betrayal" by Ben Mezrich (the guy who wrote 21). See http://www.firstshowing.net/2009... - Jess Lee

Our data center (SVColo) performed an upgrade to their core network switch this evening. Something went wrong, and the operation took 30 minutes instead of 5. We apologize for the problem.

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we are back - K.D.

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I wondered. Glad you are back! - Rachel Lea Fox

No problem. Just don't scare us like that again ;) - Mark Krynsky

Ok otherwise it was going to be an topic on Twitter. - Madhav Tripathi

I forgive you. - ...Vezquex

Um, you only have one data center? - Glen Campbell

I thought FriendFeed would have deployed mobile datacenters across the US by now. - imabonehead

Talk to Scoble about getting you guys on Rackspace :) - Jason Cronkhite via Alert Thingy

Jason: we would love to host FriendFeed but any hoster will screw up from time to time so I would rather win their business on the strength of our technology and service. Our CEO puts his personal cell phone out there (I don't know of any other hosting company CEO that does that, plus mine is +1-425-205-1921). not to mention I have some major motivation to make sure FriendFeed stays up. :-) - Robert Scoble

Compete with Wave and let people run their own Friendfeed servers. - ...Vezquex

Thanks! I almost sent SOS via Twitter...but u guys were fast! :D - Roshan

Oh, and it was nice of you guys to arrange your downtime for when I was flying and off the net! :-) - Robert Scoble

The upside is I saw the 'new and improved' twitter web interface for the first time. When do I have time to do that normally :D - Micah Wittman

Micah: New and improved Twitter UI? Either I didn't get that yet, or it has been a *long* time since you were last on Twitter ;-) And welcome back FF peeps - good to see you :-) - Andy Bold

@scoble, that's just it. I've only known Rackspace to screw up once and it was due to some guy driving a car into the data center. Plus, all the other perks you mentioned. - Jason Cronkhite

Andy, long time :) - Micah Wittman

Something changed with this downtime, didn't it? All images are now hosted on friendfeed-media.com instead of the old i.friendfeed.com - Mitch

Mitch, the friendfeed-media change was deployed yesterday and unrelated to the outage. - Paul Buchheit

Netflix Boss Plots Life After the DVD - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...

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"But Netflix's chief executive officer, Reed Hastings, thinks his core business is doomed. As soon as four years from now, he predicts, the business that generates most of Netflix's revenue today will begin to decline, as DVDs delivered by mail steadily lose ground to movies sent straight over the Internet. So Mr. Hastings, who co-founded the company, is quickly trying to shift Netflix's business -- seeking to make more videos available online and cutting deals with electronics makers so consumers can play those movies on television sets. His position offers a rare look at how a CEO manages a still-hot business as its time runs out." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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Good move on his part. Even though we still have a Netflix account, we only use the Instant version and haven't seen any red envelopes in months. - Louis Gray

+1 Louis. My Netflix account is solely for watch instantly. - EricaJoy

How is he going to compete with cable companies who already have the delivery infrastructure, the connections in Hollywood and many times more subscribers. - Amit Morson

Cable companies don't have the monopoly on channels, fortunately. A netflix+hulu merger would be the death of cable co's everywhere. I welcome it though I don't think it would ever happen. - EricaJoy

The funny thing is that Reed and I discussed this about 10 years ago. At that time, I said to him, "You know that those plastic discs still contain more data than your typical home connection will be able to handle for a while..." His response: "You know that, I know that, but the investors don't know that." A couple of months ago, Reed and I had another chat over lunch, and this time,... more... - Piaw Na

Rival of Pakistan Taliban Leader Is Assassinated - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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"A rival of Baitullah Mehsud, the powerful Taliban leader who has carried out a string of bloody suicide bombings in recent years, was shot dead Tuesday in northwestern Pakistan, police officials said. The death of Qari Zainuddin, the rival leader, comes as a serious blow to the government, which had supported him as a counter to Mr. Mehsud in its campaign against the Taliban." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

Pakistan is the new Afghanistan - piyush

I suppose the huge amount of Afghan refugees in Pakistan have nothing to do with it ? {sarcasm} - Ahsan Ali

"Web 2.0 was created so that people could publish cute photos of their cats. But this same cat dissemination technology has proved extremely helpful for activists, who’ve turned these tools to their own purposes." - Ethan Zuckerman (http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog...)

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haha awesome quote. - Geoff Schultz

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Nice. The Cute Cat Theory. From @EthanZ in 2007. Reading old blogs? Great find! - thinkQuick

I thought Web 2.0 was created to more efficiently deliver Porn - Sean Reiser

Bizarre. I was under the impression Web 2.0 was created for people to publish cute (and not so cute) photos of themselves. :) - Mona Nomura

Web 2.0 was created *for cats* to publish cute photos of themselves. - Amit Patel

Heck, a cat can program a robot, why not? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Paula W

: ) - "Twitter lets Robert Scoble tell me what he’s doing 200 freaking times a day… but it also lets me know whether Egyptian activists have been released from the police station when they go in for questioning." - Sarah Miller

Cat dissemination technology. LOL. :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

In Poll, Wide Support for Government-Run Health - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...

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"Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind one of the most contentious proposals Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll... The poll found that most Americans would be willing to pay higher taxes so everyone could have health insurance and that they said the government could do a better job of holding down health-care costs than the private sector." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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no way no how...gov healthcare? your kidding... ask a vet how his healthcare is going. - Randy Pollock

I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.-Thomas Jefferson - Randy Pollock

Most bad government has grown out of too much government.-Thomas Jefferson - Randy Pollock

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas Jefferson - Randy Pollock

That's what we have in France. It allows everyone to have access to healthcare. It is very expensive to the government though... - Jim Braux-Zin

Which is supported by a VAT tax, I don't want a VAT tax. Former Pres Reagan said asking someone if everyone should have health care is a no win question of course everyone should...but at what cost and what tax level - Randy Pollock

"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It is very easy to describe a medical program as a humanitarian project... Ronald Reagan - Randy Pollock

Please stop thinking socialism=stalinism... - Jim Braux-Zin

The problem with the arguments against this is they focus on a single payer plan when this is focused on a public option for insurance. It would be very cool to have an honest discusion on the actual issue, as it's very debate worthy. - Andrew

@Randy: So would you consider the current situation acceptable? When there's no public option (not the single-payer strawman so many seem to be arguing against, but which no one is seriously proposing), you end up with many people who *cannot* get insurance at any reasonable rate because of some condition over which they have no control. My brother has epilepsy. I have a couple of friends with autistic children. In all of these cases, private insurance companies simply won't insure them. - Joel Webber

Then, of course, there's the hidden "public option" which already imposes a huge burden on government coffers: the fact that hospitals are required to eat the cost of the uninsured in emergency rooms, where care is often drastically more expensive than preventive care. If you want the government to stay completely out of healthcare, then you have to accept letting the uninsured poor die outside emergency rooms. - Joel Webber

I don't have the answer to healthcare, but giving it to big government isn't the solution either...I have to pay for healthcare for my son who is 2 yrs old, we can barely afford it, don't you think I would like to have a cheaper rate or a free plan from the government? Whomever can find the solution I'm for it, but history has always shown us that big government is not the solution. - Randy Pollock

Many other developed nations have public healthcare systems, such as France as Jim pointed out. These health care systems work better than ours by established metrics. About veterans' health care, please refer to _Best Care Anywhere: Why VA Health Care is Better Than Yours_. The assertion about what "history has always shown" is not supported by specific, empirical evidence. - Ruchira S. Datta

History has shown that governments only get larger. So what if we stopped whining about big government and started figuring out how to make our largest institutions (AIG, Citi, GM, AT&T, the government, etc.) work for us instead of against us? - Daniel Dulitz

Seems to me that a good way to do that would be to give our large institutions large problems to solve, problems that will destroy us if not solved. Non-govt has had 30 years to fix healthcare and failed. Time to try something new. - Daniel Dulitz

Dogmatism sucks. Too many have knee-jerk reactions to any proposal on both sides of the political spectrum, and cherry pick anecdotes or regurgitate viral memetic talking points. Here's an anecdote: I pay for the most expensive healthcare option, small deductible, everything covered, maximal choice. Yet, my provider still makes tons of billing errors which I have to spend hours on the... more... - Ray Cromwell

why lonely conservatives rarely comment on social media sites...lol..I always know better...but comment anyway. At least we can agree it was nice that the US MNT (soccer) made it to the semi finals today - Randy Pollock

@Randy: No! Please don't *not* comment; that's not the point. I hope that we *can* have a rational discussion on these sorts of issues, here if anywhere. I was only trying to point out that there are severe problems with the current system, and a government plan might be a way of mitigating some of them. I think you'll find that people here (by "here" I mean the particular group of... more... - Joel Webber

@Joel I'm not the best debater and when it feels like "Joe versus the volcano" it's hard to continue trying to make my point that big government is very scary to me, I try to limit my comments to topics that I have personal knowledge of (I am a veteran) or that will impact my family directly (healthcare). I agree that big business is scary, but not as scary as big government.I prefer to... more... - Randy Pollock

Government health care in Canada is amazing, and even causes some Americans to cross the border. - .Garin Kilpatrick.

I just read an article (can't seem to find it now) that said the opposite. But I do know many ppl who get their prescriptions from Canada. I think I saw the report on Fox News (you can insert your hate for that news agency here) - Randy Pollock

I'm about a libertarian as you can reasonably be without frothing at the mouth. Addicted to Rand at 17, Atlas Shrugged my Bible, Mises, Hayek, Friedman, etc my prophets, and in general, I prefer competition and decentralization as default, as market based approaches as much as possible, but just because they work most of the time, doesn't mean they work all of the time or are optimal... more... - Ray Cromwell

I know several people who are americans who are denied insurance because pre-existing conditions. Their problems apparently was the be born. That is not ok. Also, paying $600 per month by yourself because you're not on an employers plan is also not acceptable. It's simply isn't an opt-out thing, as the costs tend to be shuffled around instead when people can't pay inflated costs because they don't have (as in can't afford) or can't get insurance. - Jonas S Karlsson

the exact "overwhelming" number is 72% of Americans support government run universal healthcare system. the cost of reform would be $0, taxes and all - $0 - it'd be actually cheaper for all ...../ A chilling reading - over 60% of all US bankruptcies attributable to medical problems - a compelling evidence that the US health care system is broken -... more... - Petr Buben

The private insurance system doesn't work because it's competing on who can deny coverage for treatments and existing conditions. I fail to see how a public system can be any worse. And yes, if you're going to be a knee-jerk Republican/Libertarian, it's tough to have a conversation with those who belong to the reality based community. - Piaw Na

New trailer for "The Pacific," HBO miniseries from Spielberg, Hanks, and makers of Band of Brothers - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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I loved Band of Brothers. Looking forward to this, especially since my grandfather, who served in the Pacific in WWII, recently passed away. - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

10-part series airs in March 2010. - Bret Taylor

With Plan and a Rope, Captives Fled From Taliban - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...

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Detailed account of the journalists' escape from the Taliban... "At 1 a.m., Mr. Rohde woke Mr. Ludin and sneaked out of the room. Mr. Ludin recited several verses of the Koran and followed him. They made their way to the second floor, and Mr. Ludin got to the top of a five-foot-high wall. When Mr. Ludin looked down, he said, he was greeted by an unnerving view: a 20-foot drop. Mr. Rohde handed Mr. Ludin a rope that he had found two weeks earlier and had hidden from the guards. They fastened the rope to the wall, and Mr. Ludin lowered himself along the rope before unclenching his fists for good." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

U.S. Fortifies Hawaii to Meet Threat From Korea - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...

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"The U.S. is moving ground-to-air missile defenses to Hawaii as tensions escalate between Washington and Pyongyang over North Korea's recent moves to restart its nuclear-weapon program and resume test-firing long-range missiles. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Thursday that the U.S. is concerned that Pyongyang might soon fire a missile toward Hawaii. Some senior U.S. officials expect a North Korean test by midsummer, even though most don't believe the missile would be capable of crossing the Pacific and reaching Hawaii." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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What would be the benefit to Nth Korea of doing that? It doesn't make any sense. The US has thousands of nuclear weapons. - jjprojects

Its all postering on North Korea's part. Its leadership wants to appear stronger than it is so it makes outrageous statements about returning to a nuclear weapons program. It seemed to work for Iran, so why not North Korea. Of course North Korea is just as likely to crumble but its all about appearances anyway. - Paul Jacobson

I've heard some debate recently about how much of a military threat the PDRK actually could pose to South Korea. My belief was that North Korea had a huge number of people in the military and enough artillery positioned near the DMZ to wipe out much of northern SK, including Seoul. On the other hand some commentators have said that the biggest threat North Korea presents, aside from nuclear proliferation, is that the government would collapse, precipitating a catastrophic refugee crisis for Russia and ROK. - Jim Norris

Theatre ! - Ryo

They could fire a missile toward Hawaii, but would it reach Hawaii? And why exactly would they do that? Something analogous to suicide-by-police? - John

Some suspect that the current leader is sick and about to announce a successor. All of this posturing and aggression could be a way of inspiring confidence in the new leadership. - Bill Strathearn

Bill S., Kim Jong II supposedly already announced that his son, Kim Jong Un, would succeed him. - Anne Bouey

I'M ON A BOAT!!! - Josh Haley

haha @Josh - Micah Wittman

$1 Million Netflix Prize So Close, They Can Taste It - Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/epicent...

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"Team Pragmatic Theory’s most recent submission, posted in the wee hours of Tuesday morning, shows a current improvement of 9.78 percent... “For a long time, we weren’t sure if 10 percent was even achievable,” said Piotte by e-mail. “Now that we’re getting closer, it seems highly probable that it can be done. Right now, we’re feeling very motivated and excited. The focus for us is no longer ‘if’ someone will make it to 10 percent, but rather ‘when.’”" - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

Netflix is cool, but best movie posts made by filmfeed. Check this out http://friendfeed.com/romanzo... - romanzolotarev

There is a guy who went to school with Mike, who made it into the 10 final contestants to see whose screen play is chosen. Go to netflix and vote for "Touchback" a screenplay written about Ashland High School - amelia arapoff

Right now FriendFeed supports multiple photo upload using Flash. I want to convert it to use HTML 5 multi-file upload if it is available, then Flash if it is available, and then fall back on standard HTML otherwise. Is there a good article demonstrating this approach?

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Specifically, is there a way to have a link trigger an HTML 5 file upload? http://observationpoint.org/journal... shows a standard INPUT element, but we want to make it trigger from our "Add: Photos" link. - Bret Taylor

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Your best bet will probably be to set the alternate content for the upload swf to be a proper HTML upload form. If you're using SWFObject to place the swf, this is fairly easy to do. Not sure about HTML 5 since it's penetration is probably pretty small (sadly) - Brett Kelly

Brett: We already have the Flash working, and it gracefully degrades. I am interested in supporting HTML 5 in addition to that. (You can try it with the Photos link above) - Bret Taylor

btw, I hope Adobe will correct the problem that makes Firefox on Linux hang horribly when trying to get the upload progress via swf upload (and you will not get the progress at all!) - Claudio Cicali

Claudio: yep, it is so bad we don't load the Flash uploader for Linux (it just uses standard HTML file upload). I use Linux all day, so it is a big pain. When the next Firefox release comes out with HTML 5 support, hopefully it won't matter. - Bret Taylor

What if you did something like this: Render out the HTML 5 form and the SWF for photo uploads and adjust the event handler for 'click' on the 'Photos' link depending on what the browser is capable of - in other words, if the browser can do HTML 5, click would reveal the related form; if not, click would launch the flash-based upload stuff. Obviously, you'd have to use javascript to... more... - Brett Kelly

Do you use a javascript check for Flash and then javascript write to add the Flash upload embed? - Chip Ramsey

Chip: not really, but sort of. We load the flash, which then calls back to our JS when it successfully loads, which then changes the DOM to replace the link with the Flash control. That solution is a bit more robust in case the Flash control fails to load for some reason (even if they have Flash installed). - Bret Taylor

If on php+apache, I would rather use the upload progress meter. No need for flash. But you do need js. http://blog.liip.ch/archive... - Vivek Puri

That makes sense. I'm sure this isn't what you're looking for, but I think you have to use user agent detection. You could start off with your basic HTML form with the input field with multiple attribute (which should degrade gracefully right?) and then detect the user agent. If it is a user agent that doesn't support multiple and isn't Linux, then you could add the Flash control to the... more... - Chip Ramsey

BTW, initially thought you could use JS to read the attributes of the input field and the multiple attribute would be missing for browsers that don't support it yet, but that doesn't seem to be the case in FireFox. - Chip Ramsey

Had a little more time to play with this tonight. Because you guys use jQuery, it looks like you may be able to use $("#test").attr("multiple") on <input type="file" id="test" multiple> and it will return the true boolean on browsers that support the attribute. On browsers that don't support it, either an empty string or "multiple" is returned. Didn't test thoroughly, but maybe somewhere to start. - Chip Ramsey

Thanks, Chip! Really helpful - Bret Taylor via email

hey bret -- in Firefox now we do support file upload without page reload and without user interaction, and you can do one file upload while picking another one -- probably not totally what you want, but maybe helpful. here's the writeup: http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009... - John Lilly

Thanks, John, that's helpful - Bret Taylor

This is an example of HTML5 and fallback for HTML5 video. http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009... - jnman

Protesters Gather Again, as Iran Panel Offers Talks - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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"The exact motives, timing and conditions of the proposed meeting, reported by state media, remained unclear. The offer, from a legal panel largely controlled by the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was widely seen as a government effort to buy time in the hopes of dampening the momentum of days of enormous protests taking place in open defiance of the government’s authority. The government also seemed to be building a case that challenges to the election represented a threat to national security, with the Intelligence Ministry describing an election-day bomb plot linked to foreign enemies, Reuters reported." - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

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What in the world is happening in Iran? This is what happens when you have a massive spike in young adult populations. People start getting dissatisfied with the status quo. Maybe theocracies should push more birth control. - Jason Nunnelley

Or have more wars. - Cristo the Troll™

Cristo, wasn't it the Iraq conflict that caused them to encourage women to bare more children? - Jason Nunnelley

Jason, I don't know. Just saying there's more than one way to keep young population down. - Cristo the Troll™

Cristo, historically wealth is the most destructive force to populations. Make em rich, they'll have fewer babies. - Jason Nunnelley

According to the CIA world factbook, Iran's estimated fertility rate for 2009 is 1.71 children/woman, significantly below replacement level (and the US). I'm not sure what caused the huge drop in fertility rate, but it's a better way of dealing with unsustainable population growth than wars. - Jim Norris

Jim, I agree. I was being ironical. :) - Cristo the Troll™

It's an interesting question though. Does anyone here know why the fertility rate dropped? - Jim Norris

Jim, fertility rates are a tricky thing. Look to Europe and I think you'll see the birth of the trend. Wealthier and more prosperous nations extend the educational period in life. In a word: college. If you educate a population, give them birth control, and provide an opportunity to offset the risks of early family planning (or lack thereof) people often opt for more money, more time,... more... - Jason Nunnelley

In China you can have more kids than one, it just costs you more. - Cristo the Troll™

I should have said coerced, not forced. - Jason Nunnelley

There's definitely a big change from when kids are net benefits (providing farm labor) to net liabilities (food costs, housing costs, everything going into raising kids, college expenses, etc.), and conversely when people fund retirement based on their savings or programs such as social security instead of depending on their descendants to care for them in old age. If you think about... more... - Jim Norris

Not that I'm anti-kid or anything, but what's the motivation: that children are a moral good? that they will make me happier? That they will make the world a better place? That they allow me to escape a shell of solipsism and selfishness by being entirely responsible for someone else? That the experience will make me a better person? It seems like a lot of people really want kids, but I... more... - Jim Norris

Jim, there is something you can do to pay them back but our culture depreciates its value daily. You can be there when they're too old to care for themselves. It's actually your social and spiritual obligation. And, you can strive to contribute to the world as a monument to their sacrifice. If more people considered their daily actions a representation of their thankfullness, there... more... - Jason Nunnelley

of course then you have the rate of teenage pregnancies in the UK throwing a spanner into the cogs of the European fertility rate machine ;) Tho, the only reason why the UK rate isn't as bad as it could be has been down to immigration from countries with traditionally high rates and cultures of the large, extended family. - alphaxion

Amazon.com: Youth in Revolt: The Journals of Nick Twisp - http://www.amazon.com/Youth-R...

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This was one of my favorite books growing up, and it is being made into a movie starring Michael Cera (http://www.imdb.com/title...). So excited for it to come out. I was trying to secretly read this in class in the 9th grade or so, but I got in trouble because I started laughing out loud it was so funny. - Bret Taylor via Bookmarklet

I borrowed this from Bret during the summer after sophomore year in college — HILARIOUS! Even better than his book on sex statistics or whatever it was that Keithifer was reading that offended Julie. - Jim Norris

Ana: "Could you really drink three martinis in a single lunch?" Paul: "Well, today is Friday, let's find out" [Walks away, brings back a real case of wine]

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Reason #2113 you should work at FriendFeed - Bret Taylor

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There's only 2113? :) - Christopher Galtenberg

Most people I know don't make martinis out of wine. :) - Cristo the Troll™

That'd be reason #2114: they have a secret winetini recipe. - Akiva Moskovitz

This was totally not how it was supposed to go. #1. I don't doubt that one could drink 3 martinis in a single lunch. I just doubted that one could do so, and then still be productive. #2. I was really disappointed that Paul didn't take me up on the offer, especially since #3, we actually have a big bottle of gin to test this theory! - Ana

I accept your challenge. Let's do "three martini Tuesdays". - Paul Buchheit

The kicker is that we had no idea where the wine came from, and after we cracked one of the bottles Sanjeev comes in and tells us they're Jim's. :-) Happy Friday! - Kevin Fox

You guys have too much fun for things to work as well as they do ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson) via PeopleBrowsr

It's Casey's birthday this coming Wednesday. Let's do the challenge then. I'll get cake and Bret can film you guys being drunk off your asses on his new 3GS. - Ana

I'm with Paul- wine over martinis - anna

I don't know, wine over martinis sounds much more challenging than martinis over lunch ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson) via PeopleBrowsr

honestly Friday people are so un-productive on Friday, does not matter... (justifying...) - anna

Especially on a double holiday - iphone day and Juneteenth . . . - Mary Baum

I don't think we're supposed to drink as the only observance of Juneteenth though. Especially until it gets to be more generally known . . . - Mary Baum

1) I think for this contest to be fair, everyone has to drink the 3 martinis and then perform some kind of major system upgrade. 2) What is a "real case of wine"? Aren't most cases of wine real? - Cristo the Troll™

Rob, we operate on the Ballmer Peak - http://xkcd.com/323/ :) - Paul Buchheit

Paul - that's Classic! :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)