Arrington was quite a jerk on this show. the "What are you going to do about it" line was right out of Jr. High.
- Jeff Jones
I liked Leo before, but now I respect him even more! Good for you not taking any shit from Arrington, Leo. If he knew you at all, he'd know you buy nearly everything you review. I've lost lots of respect for Arrington here--what a playground bully. I love that Leo just shut 'em all down! Thanks for sharing, Kevin, great stuff. I hope Leo has no regrets, because there should be none.
- Paul Salzman
I've never understood why Kevin, Leo, or any other well known technology people ever give a douchebag like Arrington the time of day.
- Chris Luckhardt
Leo : once again you've showed there are people we trust and follow (i.e you) and those who can't. Have been following and trusting you a long time, and will do more than ever now.
- arnaudt
Leo had every right to tell that guy to shove it. Mike was questioning Leo's integrity, in an irritating and cowardly manner to boot! What self-respecting journalist wouldn't, and shouldn't, react similarly?
- Ryan Shepherd
I've sometimes had a hard time reading arrington's articles on TechCrunch. They seemed to have tone that I couldn't really like. This little bit kind of solidified that thought and feeling about him.
- Robert de Castro
That was awesome! Leo, your integrity has always been top notch and you shouldn't let anybody question or tarnish it! Keep up the awesome work!
- Sean Simkins
What an arrogant ass. Way to stick it to him, Leo!
- Shawn Poulson
This is first time i've seen him like this.But he was correct in his stand, a review unit can't really influence such a decision.
- Abhishek
Arrington is a jerk. Leo is a class act all the way. SCREW YOU Arrington. your blog sucks anyway.
- Rustic Thoughts
Leo has always been a man of integrity and surely has earned the right to give Arrington directions to Hell, when having his honor questioned. You go, Leo! --- Regular TWiT podcast, er . . . netcast listener, La-Tonia Denise Willis in Seattle
- PODFICTIONONLINE
Is it just me or techcrunch.com has this unexplainable air of unpleasentness in their posts?
- Alpay Erturkmen
Caroline: if you have digg fed into friendfeed then when you digg a story it comes over to friendfeed - kevin didn't post it if you go to the digg story you can find out who did - he even beat the creator of the video which is pretty impressive
- Chris Heath
I don't really know who is right, but I don't think that it's unreasonable to disclose that you were given something for free when making a recommendation about it. As matter of a fact, not disclosing it makes me question a persons integrity.
- Ron Hagenhoff
it wasn't FREE it was a 7-day review unit that he only asked for because he couldn't go wait in line for one. it was launched on saturday and leo does the radio show on saturday - therefore he reluctantly asked for a review unit - does that make sense?
- Chris Heath
Well since it wasn't free why get so angry? Arrington asked for Leo to make it clear to everyone that the unit was free. Wasn't free end of story. Obviously, there's prior issues between the 2 and I just think that it's weird all these people picking sides.
- Ron Hagenhoff
After watching a 2nd time I realized that Arrington pushed on with the FREE accusation even after Leo had said that the Pre wasn't free, That it was just a 7 day demo unit, and that he was thinking of buying one. My bad! I've heard that Arrington has since apologized though and that's a respectable thing to do.
- Ron Hagenhoff
I watched this about 4 times and wish I could make out what Mike was saying when they all were talking. I applaud Leo for standing up on the show live yet kinda sad to see him this way. I understand why Leo got the review unit. Mike went to far even if he thought Leo was wasn't serious. Edit: This is Mikes post on TechCrunch http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- James Reeves
While I like listening to Leo and admire his work, I do not think it is fair to do all this 'Mike' bashing.
- Kevin J Hatton
Sure, Mike apologizes and becomes adult about it now, after realizing once again that he doesn't hold near the audience that Leo does. If the tables were turned, I doubt he'd ever give Leo a second thought. What a turd.
- Fleagle
Can you say "Ooops I better kiss butt before I lose all my readers?"
- Rustic Thoughts
Leo is a bigger man for accepting Arrington's apologies. I still wont read his blog however.
- Rustic Thoughts
I agree. I am not sure why some of these guys give Arrington the time of day. Way to go Leo!
- Adam Martin
I don't understand how anyone would come on a show and blatantly press an integrity issue, valid or not, with the _host_ of the show. That would never end well.
- Shawn Poulson
I used it for a while but stopped. it just didn't have a feature I needed. But, I really lke the service and it works quite well.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Their customer service alone makes the service worth it. They're brilliant.
- Sameer Vasta
I was scared off by discussions in their forum about an inability to have prepaid billings (retainers). I haven't gone back in a while but I also was not sure if the look of the invoice could be modified. The way it used the web for quotes was awesome -- I may still go back to it.
- Wayne Schulz
I used it for freelance work and it was great. Support is Good, too.
- Trevor F. Smith
from twhirl
Freshbooks is great. I really like the format of the invoices and the ability to send invoices to more than one person at a company (via email or snail mail). Highly recommended.
- Laurence Toney
ppl seem to be big fans and I know a devel there. The other service I commonly hear mentioned is Harvest -- @missrogue use?
- Lloyd Budd
I'm using it and works great. I like the recurrent invoice sending to te client, and automatically connects to my Paypal account to receive my payment.
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
You can tell it's 4chan because they accomplished something difficult and impressive... and then used that access to make a bunch of gay jokes and flog old memes.
- Justin Dykhouse
"Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's tenure as mayor of Detroit is over. He just entered into a plea agreement, according to prosecutor Lisa Lindsey."
- l.m.orchard
"In 1981, Kraftwerk sold a nice merchandise item on their concerts: a Casio VL-80 calculator with Kraftwerk print on pouch and display, complete with a Kraftwerk songsheet. This Casio calculator is capable of playing a total of 100 musical keys over two octaves. "
- l.m.orchard
I'm starting to find FF to be a much conducive environment for inane chatter than twitter: real comments. That and the whole being actually functioning thing.
If mobileme is launching, won't it need the 2.0 firmware? Won't that mean app store is launching as well?
- gregory
I'm hoping for an early 2.0 release. I leave for a weekend trip on Thursday and would love to have it with me.
- RyanEs
Well there wouldn't be much point in launching MobileMe without the iPhone 2.0 software, at least.
- Ian Betteridge
This did not seem like any big deal when I first heard about it last month. Now, however, I am really looking forward to it. Hats off to Apple for creating full blown web 2.0 apps and supporing the 3 main browsers right from the start!
- Johnny Software
Yep already got Mail.app set up for me.com and looking forward to iPhone and MobileMe come Friday. Deals with the one major annoyance of having to sync each little contact or calendar change via cable with iTunes.
- John Samuelson
I added you two weeks ago. Guys and Gals - use the hide button to reduce the info overload.
- Russellreno
yea I am trying to figure out how to make my friend feed posts go out to twitter
- Jason Stephens
Jason: why? post to twitter and bring them in.
- Kevin L
klecu: because then I have to leave friendfeed, I want to do everything in here...when I share I want it to go out to all my services too....
- Jason Stephens
exactly my point...I think it could be a twitter replacement though...i like posting to hear better then posting on twitter. I'd like the messages I share on here to go out to my twitter followers to help grow my subscriber list
- Jason Stephens
So is it Ping.fm that does that (posts to Twitter) then, not FriendFeed?
- Jeff Kopp
The method to comment and reply is much better on friendfeed, I think this definitly should either be bought by twitter or find a way to cross integrate them better. I see the option to "also send this comment as an @reply twitter from jpstephens" but thats not EXACTLY what I mean
- Jason Stephens
Jason: I totally agree, if you can post out to all your socials then someone tell me how. If not, then FF should have the option or I smell yet another social network for social networks. ;)
- Mark
You could try Mahalo share to post to a lot of your socials at once, but wouldn't this create a bit of a spam effect to FF if all of those socials are showing up here? Interested to hear comments from anyone with that experience, because of course you don't want to spam your FF friends, but not everyone is using FF... conundrum
- Dave Earley
Glad you got it Kevin. Friendfeed lends it self to more engaging conversation and sharing.
- Larry Kless
Problem is, you have to Friend back. :)
- l0ckergn0me
Did Scoble block you for begging for followers?
- Ryan Kuder
yeah there's real potential. but it's so damn hard to manage your friend list! same as with twitter - this is a huge barrier to the usability of the site. there should be a subscribe/unsubscribe button next to every post from anybody.
- Mickipedia
Friendfeed is awesome Kev. Everything at your fingertips.
- Vipin Chamakkala
This is a common refrain - people admitting that it takes them months to get FriendFeed. And for those of us who aren't honest enough to publicly admit this, it takes us months to use FriendFeed effectively. Is there a way to reduce this learning curve, so people can productively use FriendFeed from day 1?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
There are all sorts of things they could do to improve FriendFeed. I guess we have to remember it is version 1.0
- Jonathan Beckett
You don't get it Kevin unless you're willing to friend us back. I believe same goes for Twitter. Why add you to our community if you're not willing to listen to us?
- Jesse Stay
So the question now is: Will Kevin friend us back? All of us? Or selective friending?
- Winston Teo
Yea, welcome on Board Dude ;) Good to see you here ...
- Martin Gommel
FriendFeed's concept does take a bit to grasp at first because we are sooo used to Twitter (uni-directional, broadcast communications tool) and FF is truly a multi-directional comm tool designed to illicit conversation around cool stuff you share via FF directly or thru nearly 50 Social Media "feeds" you can port over here. I love FF and have been super happy since I joined back in March! ;o). Glad you're here and having fun!!
- Susan Beebe
I still don't get it. There seems to just be too much noise. I get crap from people I don't know and I'm not following. Every item that hits my feed and has any comments takes up stupid amounts of space so it's hard to scan through. Twitter is just light weight and simple, and in that way it's more effective. If you could have a 1 or 2 line summary for each item then it'd be great, but as it is it's cluttered and overpowering, and I only have 6 follows, I can't imagine what it's like with 100s
- Mark Benson
from twhirl
About time you showed up. Now I can remove your twitter's entry in my Imaginary Friend. Real handy feature to track non-adopters.
- klaatu
I've explored every nook and cranny of Friendfeed now, grasped the interface and culture, and I am fairly certain that in its current incarnation it will catch on with only a very small percentage of Internet users. I have a fairly good track record in spotting major trends in Internet technology, and I don't think this is one. The main problem: way, way, way too much noise and...
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- Sean McBride
I like FF because you can have more conversations. I think the look/feel of FF needs some work though. Not enough easy ways to search and sort through.
- Geoff Peterson