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nick, a holodeck can simulate and interstellar spaceship. perception is everything. in fact, it's the only thing - Baratunde Thurston

@eric curious as to why you're posting statements directly to friendfeed. - Baratunde Thurston

I don't want to blog this stuff, my audience is more diverse than web nerds. Also, I have a full post on why I think Google is building a holodeck framework, but I'm just baiting at this point. heh. - Eric Rice

that's cool. also twitter is down. again. will be interested in your post - Baratunde Thurston via twhirl

the thing is, the holodeck only simulated stuff that you couldn't do because you were stuck on a spaceship. if you're actually on earth, why not really go whitewater river rafting or whatever, in actual reality? (shit, i'm gonna answer my own question here: sex with celebs and fake time travel.... duh. (though they did the latter on STNG a lot, for some reason they never did the former)) - Ňicķ

Proof! Proof! :) - Alejandro S.

@nick that's present day things. I can't go back in time. And, I can't be everwhere Right Now. Let's go hang out in the Alps...ooh crap, can't gotta pick kids up from school. ;) - Eric Rice

I'm with Eric on the simulate thing. Tons of things I can't do and places I can't visit due to reality constraints. - Todd Jordan

Start with the Now. Google has a mapping/earth engine that contains relative proximity based information, in all media formats. From Street View to the laser scanning of buildings for 3D. Microsoft also does it, but they are uncool and probably can't figure this out yet hehe. So first step is to look at the current offereing and how robust it is. - Eric Rice

I mapped/toured Tokyo before I went, affecting my real state of presence there. When I got back, they actually improved the mapping, so every 3D building is rendered. I'm going to try this someplace like Paris next. I can also see the experiences of other 'patrons' via photo/audio/video... - Eric Rice

The notion of being in a rendered place (and being aware you in a rendered place) does not take away from a social experience and a spatial awareness. Ask anyone who plays Warcraft, Second Life, Halo, GTA, etc... seemingly normal things (by the dollars anyway heh). Sense of place is sense of place. - Eric Rice

My theory is that our minds are being conditioned to think in that dimension. What Google is building is essentially the pre-historic framework for that. For kicks, look on Xbox for the 'making of the museum of human history', the fictional documentary of how the diorama was built. - Eric Rice

We just don't have the absolute immersive interface.. YET. Look at what people can do with accelerometers and motion sensors and cameras and infrared on game consoles alone. - Eric Rice

Let your minds wander and don't think about next week, thing about next decade. And then think of how Microsoft could be the winner if they were smart enough to stitch things together internally. Heh, doubtful. :) - Eric Rice

But we wouldn't be able to interact with that environment, right? - Alejandro S.

Addendum: Google doesn't know they are building a holodeck. heh - Eric Rice

@alejandro that depends on the interface device. Take a basic game like GTA, you can interact; take one of the PS EyeToy games (aquariums and the Tori-Maki painting), you can interact... Haptic and tactile stuff has a long way to go; this winter we're getting our hands on EEG interfaces (wearable)... Hence why I made the disclaimer at the top: 'framework'... interfaces are still coming - Eric Rice

this reminds me of that old simpsons episode where lisa imagines VR helmets in school, she puts it on and genghis khan appears saying: "Hello Lisa, I'm Genghis Khan. You'll go where I go, kill who I kill, eat who I eat!" Now that would be something! - Ňicķ

If I had a holodeck I'd simulate a desk with a computer on it that got FF. - Not Not Geoff Schultz

I have my own holodeck in Second Life - does that count? (it's actually pretty cool!) - Tad - the Meme Maker

Oh sure it's all fun and games till you ask the computer to create a Professor Moriarty smart enough to challenge Commander Data. - Not Not Geoff Schultz

Yes, but will it save our health records? :) - Morton Fox

Using your health records it will create a "virtual you" to kill you over and over in cyberspace. - Tad - the Meme Maker

sex with celebrities! - edythe

What if Google can scan people with lasers (in public) to create a 3D representation of YOU. Overlay that with all the data you (and your contacts) produce. Would one be able to recreate basic facets of personality (16 of them) based on the nuanced data and clues provided by you and your network? Then you have an avatar that is strong AI that could live for generations; talking with your gr-gr-great grandchildren. Yay for sci-fi! - Eric Rice

Yes but does it have real estate yet? - Prokofy Neva

hmm let me think what that would be good for... oh yeah. porn - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ

"Mom! Grandpa's weird AI ghost is having sex with Penelope Cruz in the holodeck again!" - Ňicķ