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Kol Tregaskes
Feel free to add me. Don't forget about the Flickr Photography group here: http://friendfeed.com/flickr-... And there is also a FriendFeed Flickr group here: http://www.flickr.com/groups... #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
سلتون تو دوباره پریدی وسط بحث یه عده بزرگتر؟ :))))) - I /-\li
http://www.flickr.com/photos... please require to be added to see my photos :D - Valentina De Santis
I'm subbing everyone as I go. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I can't believe who I've missed here, thanks for the links! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://www.flickr.com/photos... Not much activity lately, thou. - Marcos
Andy, 2? That's just greedy, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
That is what a homepage is for. You can reach mine through the link in my profile. - Peter
Kol, once again, thanks for helping us all connect. There are some great photographers on FF. - Kevin Pedraja
Now that I'm going through and adding all of these people I'm discovering that Flickr needs a grouping functionality for contacts. - Kenton
I don't need to mention it here. You can just mouse over me to find out. The power of FriendFeed. - Nick B.
Wow, Nick. Way to play along. - Rochelle
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks! - Ryan Massie
Feel free to add me: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Milton Ramirez - Milton Ramirez
Kol, I listed my url earlier but feel free to add me as a contact (http://www.flickr.com/photos...) - Johnny
A great thread. I do believe that I have subscribed to ya'll. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... awesome thread! will have to check everyone out [I work there] - Criz
http://flickr.com/photos... (NSFW if you have safesearch turned off) - Michael Hocter
http://www.flickr.com/photos... . The quality of my stream varies depending on inspiration, if you're browsing I suggest my 25 most interesting images: http://www.flickr.com/photos... and my personal favorites: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Niklas Morberg
Http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaymeephoto - Chad McCoskey from iPhone
Thanks for all the links! I'll be going through them all today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
just realized ,, ive been missing out on some awesome photographs .. AWESOME thread - johnpiercy
wow, thats a lot of flickrs LOL well, thanks to you I went to flickr and set up my url.. I was amazed this was available http://www.flickr.com/photos... - David Gross
Thank you all! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Couldn't find the page, Soner. - Kol Tregaskes
I just went pro :D http://www.flickr.com/photos... - MλTT
Cool. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks. - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you everyone! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Great shots, G. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
/micahwittman - Micah Wittman
Thank you all! - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
http:///www... - I haven't updated it, photo-wise for a long time, since I was getting dangerously close to exceeding the 200 item limit. - Tyson Key
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
This is me: flickr.com/photos/vestigialconsciousness/ - Parth Awasthi
there are some great pictures in this list! - Chris Rogers
Brian Hendrickson
pleez Santa bring me a keyboardless #droid the exact same size and form factor of an iPod touch #christmas
Nexus one? - Alex Scrivener from iPhone
hmm yeah I haven't read about whether the Nexus one is smaller than an iPhone or not - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
Re: Futuristic reading interface for the lazy and productive - http://blog.lazyfeed.com/2009...
"it's really neat! but I'd like it to be even lazier when i'm searching for new topics for my treadmill" - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
This used to be one of my least favorite songs on the album (er... cassette it was for me), but it's really grown on me over the years. The Clash will never get old. - Adrian
thanks to Pandora, their songs bubble up and i've discovered a lot of them are really cool - Brian Hendrickson
Steve Gillmor
Will start in a few minutes, I'm hanging out waiting for the usual Skype call. I will have a ton of different hats on today's show. - Robert Scoble
let the games begin - Raphael, Raphael
First hat will be a google one. Let's see if Gillmor can get me to put on the Silverlight one. - Robert Scoble
dividing attention between this and health care debate. It could be an interesting exercise. - Karoli
Karoli: cool, one conversation is important. You figure out which one. :-) - Robert Scoble
i never did like silverlight - Chris Jackson
You have actual hats? - Raphael, Raphael
Yes. Lots of hats. - Robert Scoble
I heard you were handed your hat a few times last night ;-) - Jerry Schuman
a few, yes - Robert Scoble
and it begins - michael sean wright
we are on! - Robert Scoble
Dan Farber of CBS News. - Robert Scoble
comcast merger, anyone? - Karoli
Squeeee! Doc's back...been way too long. - Karoli
I have one of those Google caps. - Raphael, Raphael
I'm sure that Google knowing every time anybody on the internet visits any other site has nothing to do with it, right? - Ken Sheppardson
Great for Analytics. - Raphael, Raphael
i.e. inserting themselves (potentially) into every client->server connection process - Ken Sheppardson
it's not just delivery, it's content control. - Karoli
Adds a new spin to the net neutrality argument - Ken Sheppardson
robert, comcast might not want you to use bing. they might want you to only use yahoo. - Karoli
More media consolidation in the hands of fewer and fewer corporations is always a good thing - Gregg H.
Dan Farber, Doc Searls, Scoble and Marks on today's Gillmor Gang: Live Now - http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish
It's also interesting in the context of the fact DirecTV viewers no longer get the Versus sports network, as they couldn't negoiate a deal with Comcast - Ken Sheppardson
ask Al Gore how he feels about their negotiations re: Current TV - Karoli
and Versus carries a lot of the niche or edge sporting events - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
great point, Doc. - Karoli
Comcast is very aggressive in keeping out local competitors - they have bought every local cable company or forced them out. They have locked out all local sporting events - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yeah, here in San Francisco we couldn't get the Stanford/Cal game this fall... it was on Versus. And it means no daily, live Tour de France coverage next July :-( - Ken Sheppardson
It was "rooter" before people started to mispronounce it. - Gregg H.
I wonder what this means for their TV On Demand section - currently NBC is not listed for any shows and CBS is very big in that list. Will this change and now NBC will only be On Demand? Will Hulu now be a Comcast Cable only site? - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The Network has changed to the point that combining cable + tv production can't corner the market in anything. - Cliff Gerrish
consolidation of power and message control - Karoli
cliff, they own the network. - Karoli
Messages can be sent from any node. - Cliff Gerrish
cliff, if i have no access to nbc news because i'm not a comcast subscriber, the messages aren't especially helpful. - Karoli
Don't you have access to NBC news via the network? - Cliff Gerrish
cliff - they already "load balance" based on where/when you are streaming from/to - so now what's to prevent them from load balancing all ABC/CBS sites in favour of NBC? - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Cliff, will I continue to? - Karoli
@Karoli - Comcast/NBC will become an out of network network :) - Rob La Gesse
I am sitting at lunch with a Silverlight guy:-) - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed
Video feed is fine. - Rob La Gesse
video is fine here - Chris Jackson
Comcast is on to yous guys - Raphael, Raphael
There's no need to fear silverlight. It will die quickly. HTML 5 will make sure of that. - Gregg H.
Mixing Content and Conduit is always a bad business idea - Stephen Pickering
Michael Arrington just joined the Gillmor Gang: Live now at http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish
Tradeoff? Silverlight is a 15 second install... - Rob La Gesse
silverlight will go the way of google gears - Chris Jackson
Gregg, I'll only believe that when we have the Olympics streamed live in HTML5. - Raphael, Raphael
NetFlix watch instantly is a nice example of Silverlight -- this relates to the Comcast deal. - Cliff Gerrish
Google Gears didn't DO anything - Silverlight does. - Rob La Gesse
I think all this stuff is inevitable. do we still need cable? or broadcast? for how long? - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed
Vezquex, you'll see it - Gregg H.
Francine, the argument against the acquistion is that they'll control the Network. They won't. - Cliff Gerrish
That's a good question - will Comcast/NBC still allow Netflix/Mediafly content to be streamed at full speed or will it become traffic shaped - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
you mean will the net be.. you know... neutral? - Ken Sheppardson
Google will spank properties that throttle - that alone will keep them playing fair. - Rob La Gesse
All proprietary un-free software and platforms will lose in the long run. - Gregg H.
Cliff, they already do. If I am watching a streaming video for more than 5 minutes I get traffic shaped. If i'm watching Comcast On Demand I do not. Will Hulu now be traffic shaped or will it get a pass? That what will be the clue if they are acting in a network neutral manner - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Windows is dog slow on good rigs, whereas Chrome OS is fast even on weak hardware. - Raphael, Raphael
CrunchPad update? - Ken Sheppardson
that's what i'm waiting for - CrunchPad questions - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
what's traffic shaped - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed
Silverlight adjusts to the speed of the bandwidth... - Cliff Gerrish
scoble - diet coke is bad..... - Chris Jackson
Francine - it is basically throttling of your bandwidth based on content and/or destination - Rob La Gesse
Francine - if i'm streaming a video on Comcast the first 5 or so minutes are at my full bandwidth capability (15mbs) but if I continue past that point the speed of the video drops to less than 1mbs - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
But Silverlight is from Microsoft. How can it be good? - Raphael, Raphael
See Moonlight + Mono.... - Cliff Gerrish
Amazing Silverlight is actually seeing some traction. Developer Cuz predicted it would 2 years ago. - JimmyJet
When Google switches Youtube videos to Ogg Theora natively palyabe in HTML 5 Browsers I think Gillmor and others that deride the importance of free software codecs and platforms will have a revelation - Gregg H.
bah - I have to run an errand - I wish the video show could be viewed later - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
wish those questions had been asked in 2001 - Karoli
Bear - it can - they are always posted on building43.com a few days later. - Rob La Gesse
Gillmor Gang is available on YouTube - your DVR of choice... - Cliff Gerrish
google'll be using h264 and html5 video before any os codec - Kevin Marks
Silverlight is as un-free as you can get. - Gregg H.
oh snap! I had no clue - thanks rob and cliff - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Silverlight is every bit as free as Google Search - Rob La Gesse
Silverlight is free (as in beer). - Raphael, Raphael
Mike is trying to open one of those un-openable plastic wrapped packages - I feel for you, Mike! - Rob La Gesse
be careful Mike, sharp edges on that package. - michael sean wright
scissors help, Mike. - Karoli
lol, karoli. - Hilary Talbot
Ubuntu netbook remix - Raphael, Raphael
Mike - use a hand grenade, Those suckers are tough! - Rob La Gesse
seriously, take a pair of scissors and cut it. It works. surgically, even. - Karoli
Is locked down linux an open system? - Cliff Gerrish
The importance of the use of our computer devices in our lives are fundamental. That's why the software and hardware has to be free. Otherwise we don't control our lives. The software and hardware providers control our lives. That's the problem Steve. - Gregg H.
But you need a real computer to debug anything. You couldn't actually debug from within Chrome OS. - Raphael, Raphael
Is ChromeOS going to give you access to the command line? - Cliff Gerrish
Gregg - that's crazy. As crazy as "free" healthcare. - Rob La Gesse
strange disconnect between these guys talking about high tech and Mike opening a plastic insane package with his teeth. - Karoli
"free" as in freedom - Gregg H.
CromiumOS is free - Gregg H.
Rob, "free" as in accessible to all but a few elite. - Karoli
Freedom isn't free - far from it. - Rob La Gesse
free as in kittens - Kevin Marks
The importance of the use of cars, homes, electricity and food in our lives are fundamental. That's why cars, homes, electricity and food has to be free. Otherwise we don't control our lives. [oh, "free" free] - Ken Sheppardson
Chromium is NOT free. I pay for it with my attention and my gestures - and Google profits off both. - Rob La Gesse
free as in radical - Ken Sheppardson
"opening a plastic insane package with his teeth" Either a good way to take out aggression or raise blood pressure, take your choice. - JimmyJet
the livestream from SuperNova has been great. Good panels and very good discussions. - Jerry Schuman
If we understand that phones are going to the Network -- why don't we see that television is going there as well. - Cliff Gerrish
Aside from a philosophical view. After being Windows free for 2 years and being free of malware, spyware, adware, and not having to run virus scan software and all that crap, I really don't understand why people like Gillmor think Linux is second class to Windows. I would never want the pain and horrible experience of using Windows again purely for practical reasons. - Gregg H.
Gregg, I understand Windows 7 is quite nice. I'm planning to buy a cheap Windows 7 notebook as a backup machine. - Karoli
Right CLiff. - Francine Hardaway
Right. I have both GV, Vonage and Ribbit, and I have one phone number. It's my cell phone - Francine Hardaway
we just went off air - Jerry Schuman
off air? - Raphael, Raphael
oops, looks like we lost the feed. - Karoli
lost it.... - Chris Jackson
Back shortly - Cliff Gerrish
Windows 7 rocks. - Robert Scoble
it's back - Ken Sheppardson
oops - who tripped over the cord? - Rob La Gesse
hit refresh - Jerry Schuman
We know we're off the air. Sorry. - Robert Scoble
You're not :-) - Ken Sheppardson
We should be back now. - Robert Scoble
o - is steve G. running this on a win 7 box?? - Chris Jackson
get the tricaster a cooling fan stat - Brian Hendrickson
off again - Jerry Schuman
the conversation never stopped on our side, though. - Robert Scoble
Something is wacky. My video has sucked the whole time. - Robert Scoble
We are recording this, though, and will have the whole thing up. - Robert Scoble
I'm not getting a feed. - Francine Hardaway
Please don't make me watch the Hummingbird Nest Cam. - michael sean wright
Want to know if Michael gets that Magic Jack package open. - JimmyJet
Shouldve used Justin.tv & Google Video Chat ahead of FF - A.Karriem A. Khan
it's back - Raphael, Raphael
You guys should talk a bit about Status.net, formerly Laconi.ca. Evan Proudomu just got over $1 Mil in VC. It could wind up being a very viable free federated decentralized competitor to Twitter. - Gregg H.
FF is good for importing to gmail & DataMining yourself AUTOMAGICALLY , Like TwitCloud http://www.building43.com/realtim... - A.Karriem A. Khan
Gregg: yeah, that will come up soon. Evan blocked me though. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
Tell Doc I said hi - Jesse Stay
Robert. I would love to see an interview with Status.net guys on Building43 - Gregg H.
Hi Doc and Dan and Robert...travel safely, all! thanks for the show. :) - Karoli
Thanks, we'll see what we can do regarding status.net. - Robert Scoble
Cool - Gregg H.
Kol Tregaskes
Some of these are great!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
think I'd say more than just bugger :P - alphaxion
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
I need to find a list of UK speak so that I can incorporate it in my daily vernacular here in the States. :) - Derrick
gotta wonder how many of these are transformers - vijay
@derrick a fav outburst of mine is "goat molesting, gerbil felcher". If I want to confuse a person, I'll yell "yoda raped your dog". list of some apparently strong profanities removed to stop kols thread from deteriating :) - alphaxion
Oh my stars, alpha...anything a little less, uh, vulgar? A friend I studied with here went to boarding school in London (originally from Thailand) and he used to call people stupid gits. I always loved that. - Derrick
there's the modifier of git - get. eg "cheeky gets!". Sorry if I turned the thread blue, I was being a cuntmuffin ;) - alphaxion
great photos wow - Brian Hendrickson
LOL - Derrick
Those poor little ducklings - Hutch Carpenter
can't agree on last but one, that's dutch beer... nothing's lost! - Mike
Poor horse! - Rick Cogley
I feel sorry for all that beer wasted. :( - Faraz Mullick
Bumping some old good posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
hehe - and ouchie! - WorldofHiglet
The photo with the pole in the driveway looks like it was designed that way. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Micah Wittman
What is your FF Comments/Likes Ratio? (Comments divided by Likes to 2nd decimal place - as of now) - http://flickr.com/photos...
What is your FF Comments/Likes Ratio? (Comments divided by Likes to 2nd decimal place - as of now)
1.05 (670/633) - Micah Wittman from Bookmarklet
Can you remind me again where to find those stats? - Brian Johns
Brian, go to "Me" link (http://friendfeed.com/brianjo...) which defaults to the Feed tab. Look at the sidebar on the right, below Discussion. - Micah Wittman
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here - mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week! - Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page) - Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals... - Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like. - Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in. - Micah Wittman from twhirl
0.79 - Brian Roy
0.67 - Nine
1.39. - Rochelle
1.61 - I only 'like' when I want to throw my support behind a topic but don't have anything constructive to add. - Bjorn Stromberg
1.12 - LogEx
1.41 - WorldofHiglet
5.08 (3181/626) ! - ◄ani625Ξ
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem. - Bren -- Designated Driver
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments - Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief! - Fa La La La Lindsay
@Cee Bee I think you meant 0.62 - ◄ani625Ξ
1.27 (902/705) - Leandro Ardissone ⍨
yes, thanks for the correction. lindsay, you're making me feel bad. lol - Cee Bee
0.8576, I only like mostly when I'm going to comment - Molly, New Ears :P
1.55 endlessly repeating. This Like/Comment included. - Dana D
before this comment: .69 I kid you not. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both) - Micah Wittman
CSV_A: 1.05,0.75,1.44,0.81,3.74,0.79,0.77,0.67,0.77,0.76,1.39,1.8,1.61,1.12,0.141,5.08,2.41,0.66,.39,0.62,.62,1.27,0.8576,1.551,0.69 - Micah Wittman
1.83 - Grant Bierman
I tend to like allot of photos which really don't need comments. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks! - Micah Wittman
.37 1002/2708 - Michael Fidler
this is what scobes walls would like if he didnt have FF - sean percival
I haven't seen Marc Canter's fabled fence (just heard about it), but I imagine this but on wood pickets :) - Micah Wittman
This week: 2.48 (1162:467) but this is not the norm, my likes usually match or are higher than comments, overall: 0.95 (14228:14846). - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks Michael, Kol! I'll recalculate average/median when we build up some more data points here. - Micah Wittman
1.03 748/723 - Keith - @tsudo
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link. - Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots) - Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up. - Tyson Key
*bump* - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Mark! - Micah Wittman
Thanks Spidra! - Micah Wittman
0.95 (1520/1604) - it's 2+ months later, and my ratio flipped (more Likes by .05) - Micah Wittman
.7 (1204/1724) - before this comment at least. - Rachel Lea Fox
Thanks, Rachel! - Micah Wittman
3.46 (3665/1057) before this comment and like. - Kevin Fox
Thanks, Kevin. 3+ is quite the comment on your commenting activities :) - Micah Wittman
I've got stuff to say. - Kevin Fox
3.98 (900/226) - Richard Lawler
1.02 (3538/3484) for sofarsofarshaun - Micah Wittman
.34 (600/1747, not counting this comment) - Michael Hocter
Thank you, Siavash and Michael - Micah Wittman
.52 overall, but .68 this week. - Rebecca
Nice, thanks Rebecca. - Micah Wittman
0.56 - imabonehead
Rah and imabonehead - rock on! (Richard too!) - Micah Wittman
0.16 - Anne Bouey
1.39 - jcunwired
4.62 (287/62) -- Yikes! I'm chatty. - Ted Roden
Thank you kindly, Anne, jcunwired and Ted. - Micah Wittman
2.63 - Bryce Roney
Thanks for joining in, Bryce. - Micah Wittman
.15 all time, .13 this week. - Alix Whitmire
Thank you, Alix and David! (and Alix, you're tied with Siavash for the Highest Like ratio. Wow). - Micah Wittman
2.94 - j1m
Thank you, j1m. Ok, I'm gonna roll this up into a csv and call it a night. - Micah Wittman
CSV_B: 0.95,0.7,3.46,3.98,1.02,0.15,0.34,0.52,1.31,0.56,0.16,1.39,4.62,2.63,0.15,0.52,2.94 - Micah Wittman
this week = 0.45%, alltime = 6.43% - chaz2b
CSV_B Mean: 1.49 (previous mean for CVS_A: 1.27) - Micah Wittman
Of course the numbers can easily lie, but I'm gonna say it anyway: "We're getting more conversational, people!" - Micah Wittman
0.49 (493/988) - Bluesun 2600
816 / 2502 = 0.326139089 overall | 50 / 233 = 0.214592275 this week I like much more than I comment. (maths via google) - Chris Loft
3026/5013 = 0.6036 - Roger Chen
0.107 probably the lowest here - Nicholas James
chaz2b, Bluesun 2600, Roger, Nicholas — thank you! - Micah Wittman
.76 - jamar78
5.25 but I don't know what this *means, yet. maybe I'm just stingy with my "likes" compared to others? - Marg Uerite
Thanks jamar78 and Marg! - Micah Wittman
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology.... - David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39 - David HC Soul
*bump* - Micah Wittman
1.26 (2965/2346) - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Glen and pea! - Micah Wittman
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others). - Micah Wittman
.38 - Ryan Dadey
Ryan, I have to say, that's one high caliber ratio ;) - Micah Wittman
An update it's .44 which is an improvement from .36 - Michael Fidler
1.5 exactly - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
2.94 1040/354 I have likes set to post to twitter automatically, so I'm careful with them. :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
0.85 - Steven Perez
0.73 up from 0.66 on Jan 08 - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
0.37 for the week past, 0.45 on the whole. - Parth Awasthi
Michael, Anthony, Ahsan, guruvan Steven, sıɹɥɔ and Parth - thanks for dropping in your stats! - Micah Wittman
5.81 i'm not using it as does everyone else here. that is fer sure. - Marg Uerite
But remember, the comment counts also includes comments imported from other services. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan, huh, I'd never considered that. - Micah Wittman
17942/30571=.59 - Alex Scoble
Alex, thank you, sir. - Micah Wittman
ALmost 2:1 exactly. - Amani
Much obliged, Amani. - Micah Wittman
3062/5777 you do the maths. - Will Higgins™
.53 (3062/5777) for Will Higgins #math-on-demand-services - Micah Wittman
Thank you, amin/gnu - Micah Wittman
2671/12333=.21 - Darren Heydon
1.45 (4374/3026) - Micah Wittman
0.92 now. I think the movie reviews have been getting me closer to a 1 to 1 ratio. - Steven Perez
Steven, yep, you were a 0.85 in April. - Micah Wittman
2.10 now ... - Amani
0.97 now. - Eric Johnson
Amani, so your comments have climbed a bit. - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Eric. - Micah Wittman
yes, but i am not consciously "not liking" things - Amani from IM
Probably, just chattier then :) - Micah Wittman
I'm down from 7.16 to 6.94 :-) - Ken Sheppardson
the live NBA playoff threads have ALOT to do with it. - Amani from IM
Ken, the FCC may be interested to explore how your "I'm down" may be offensively self-deprecating ;) - Micah Wittman
.56 eeep, must try harder - Threepwood
4.52. I don't bother to like things I've commented on, since commenting already flags it as interesting. - Andy Bakun
0.46 (1698/3638) - Glenn Slaven
Threepwood, Andy, Glenn - thanks (Andy, that's my mo too; then I'll Like if it warrants a "double vote"). - Micah Wittman
1.31 (4,471/3,401) - Karoli
Thanks, Karoli. And the both of us have a _very_ similar ratio and absolute numbers. wow. - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Ryo! - Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy> - Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81) - Micah Wittman
In March the Mean was: 1.49 - Micah Wittman
1.021276595744680851063829787234042553191489361702127659... via Wolfram Alpha - tom murphy
Thanks, tom. And though a bit verbose, your friend Wolfram is resourceful :D - Micah Wittman
0.55 (254/444) - Willem (@wim66) ☠
Thank you, Willem. - Micah Wittman
In April you were 0.97, so you're liking more / commenting less. - Micah Wittman
1.88 (779/414) - Ton Zijp
Thanks, Ton. - Micah Wittman
0.43 (3597/8305). - Parth Awasthi
0.74 (1970/2667) - Scott of Two Countries
And thank you Parth, Scott. - Micah Wittman
Parth, compared to your April numbers, you've been consistent. - Micah Wittman
2.12 is my ratio. - Rick Cogley
Thanks, Rick! - Micah Wittman
Np Micah. What is that photo? - Rick Cogley
.54 (4148/7674) Updated! - Michael Fidler
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :) - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!) - Micah Wittman
1.82 from 798 comments / 438 likes - David Damore
Thanks, nivé and David! - Micah Wittman
2027/1594 = 1.27 - Brome
0.58 - Marc Dong
2.9 (3,242/1,116) mhhh.. time to straighten my use of FF a bit.. thanks for this entry - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Brome, Marc and Thierry - thank you! - Micah Wittman
Thierry - yeah, 2.9 is fairly high - got to pick the pace on like side :) [but hey, whatever works for you is fine] - Micah Wittman
Stats Update: Last time I commented here my comment to like ratio was 0.107 it's increased to 0.645 ;) - Nicholas James
Thank you Nicholas and MiniMage! - Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas. - Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good! - Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me. - Micah Wittman
It's that time again. - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Laura! (you're a 50-caliber gal!) - Micah Wittman
0.64 - Imabug
Thank you, Imabug. - Micah Wittman
4.67 (I'm greedy :p) - directeur
0.99 - Steven Perez
About 1:2 comment to likes at this time - RAPatton from iPod
.63 - metalerik
Thanks Imabug, directeur, Steven, RAPatton, Jim, Brent and metalerik! - Micah Wittman
0.78 - Pete Delucchi
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments. - Bren -- Designated Driver
And thank you Jimminy, Pete, Bren and Penguin! - Micah Wittman
2.47 as of right now. - Jonas, Leper of FF
Micah, are you doing something with these numbers? If so sounds interesting. - Jimminy Fuller
0.58 - James (!?)
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it. - Micah Wittman
Jonas, James and Kurt - thanks you! - Micah Wittman
You're welcome. I hope the results do some good. :-) - James (!?)
.31. I have almost 4 times as many likes as comments. - edythe
.86 - Eric Logan
Thank you edythe and Eric! - Micah Wittman
195/245 makes 0.8 rounded not including this one which would be 196/245 making 0.8 unrounded, - tom murphy
Thanks, Tom. - Micah Wittman
1.98 (588/297) - Bryan Zirkel
1.67 (19,550/11,684) - Mitchell Tsai
Bryan, Mitchell and Jeff P. - thanks, guys! - Micah Wittman
1.18 - it's always been close to 1, since day one, for some reason. - Laura Norvig
Wow, Penguin is a prolific liker! - Laura Norvig
2.67 (875/328) - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Thank you, Nathalie! - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Spidra and Mark! - Micah Wittman
0.49 - Jammy Lee
Jammy and Mathew, thank you very much. - Micah Wittman
I don't know I just like that picture - Brian Hendrickson
.40 - Ben Hanten
Mine was exactly 2:1 about a week ago. Did a screenshot when I had 2,000 comments and 1,000 likes. - Joe from iPod
SuezanneC, Brian, B E N and Joe - thank you all very much! - Micah Wittman
Joe, it's like see the odometer click through a nice round number - it's just inexplicably engaging. :) - Micah Wittman
1.40, nearly the square root of two. - Raphael, Raphael
0.58 - Andy Bold
Thanks, Raphael and Andy! - Micah Wittman
1.15 (6777/5873) - JA Castillo
12.23 (844 / 69 ) I guess I take my likes seriously ;) - Chris Myles
1.63 - Serkan Mutlu
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!! - Chris Myles
.87 - Nine
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine! - Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!) - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments).. - Chris Myles
1.78 (8529/4782) - Micah Wittman
Likes are down relative to comments, which matches my much lower frequency of liking. I'm a more selective liker than ever. - Micah Wittman
0.9009 (6055/6721) - Jason Huebel
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF? - Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience. - Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is. - Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too. - Jason Huebel
383/372 - ashish
'Just clicking "Like" seems too easy' — Jason, that's because you're from the Chatty-ite tribe :) - Micah Wittman
Thanks, ashish. - Micah Wittman
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff) - chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered? - Micah Wittman
When I first saw this: 1.91 Sept 28: 1.94 - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
536 comments in the last month has me at .8736...still creeping toward 1.00 - Bren -- Designated Driver
Thanks, MiniMage (2x participant!), Bren (3x!) and Shannon (your inaugural visit!) - Micah Wittman
Thank you, SustainedEuphoria. - Micah Wittman
I 'liked" this to change my ratio! (1.22 1040/850) - Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
Thanks, Mark. - Micah Wittman
1.45 - Brett Kelly
Thanks, Brett :) - Micah Wittman
5.67 all time. Second highest ratio on here. Woot! I love to talk. - Kevin L
0.125, I need to talk more ;) - mridul
Thank you both, Kevin and mridul (the two of you balance it each well :) - Micah Wittman
1.80 (10,189 / 5,666) [compared to Likes, my Comments still continue to rise] - Micah Wittman
1.02 (10323/10161) - Bren -- Designated Driver
.5666 currently (30,084/53,093) - Alex Scoble
Thanks, Bren. - Micah Wittman
Thank you, Alex :) - Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while... - Bren -- Designated Driver
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically. - Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better. - Bren -- Designated Driver
1.8 - Blackeyed P
Thanks, Sarah, Tutivillus. - Micah Wittman
1.19 - Joe Bonner
Micah this is like 11 months ago, I see you have almost doubled your rate. lets make a graph for everybody now, :) - Mahmood Padura
Quick, someone write a greasemonkey script to inline some google charts! (tap-tap-tap...wut? don't look at me ;) - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Joe. And you thank you, Mahmood :) - Micah Wittman
Thanks, Glen! Your comments in the ratio have gone up too. - Micah Wittman
1.70 (it was 1.41 on Jan 8) - WorldofHiglet
WorldofHiglet, thank you :) The comments are strong in this one. - Micah Wittman
0.64 (2,589/4,051) - Chieze Okoye
0.58 - Thomas Page
Chieze and Thomas - thank you! - Micah Wittman
*bumpage* - Micah Wittman
So, Micah, we never did find out what you were doing with this info.... - WorldofHiglet
2.21 (2,812/1,275) - Rene Wirtz
0.27 (5637/20234) - I only see a couple people lower than me. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
4.06 (747/184) - Jan Ole Peek
WoH, World Domination. - Micah Wittman
Rene, John and Jan - thank you, all three! :) - Micah Wittman
1.94 - تلخک
2.74 (4,446 / 12,204) - J. Abdul-Qahhar
0.97 (6,694/6,929) - Jimminy Fuller
Thank you J., Jimminy and آقای تلخک :) - Micah Wittman
2.23 - Paola Bonomo
0.71 (8,200/11,551) updated - Michael Fidler
0.03 (284 / 10378)! - Daniel Rowley
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel! - Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments. - Christopher Harley
*thanks Christopher thoroughly* - Micah Wittman
14.86 (1442/97) I'm going the wrong way!! - Chris Myles
Brian Hendrickson
Re: How Google got left behind (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Twitter search spoiled me with it's recency. For months i've performed several extra steps on almost every Google search: a) submit the search term via my browser toolbar b) click "Advanced Search" c) click "Date, usage rights, numeric search and more" d) choose "past 24 hours" from the date popup e) click "Advanced Search" submit button. It was getting tiresome but recently a new 3-step option appeared and I can a) submit the search term via my browser toolbar b) click "Show options" c) click "past 24 hours" I'm ready for the 1-step version, I will Like it." - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
nice fish photo. Great catch! Yours? - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
oic. I don't use imgfave. that's why i had no idea what it is. haha cute - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
yeah it's just for bookmarking cool images, I think it's pretty fun. my wife really liked that fish photo too :-) - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
looking for washing machine repair in Portland
PortlandServiceCenter.com, KatysAffordableSales.net, www.appliancehospital.com, jr-appliance-repair.portland-biz.com, etc. - chaz2b
hey cool! thanks a lot :-) I forgot to say "any suggestions?" but that's what I meant - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
Hello World!
dang! that's not supposed to be doing that :-) - Brian Hendrickson
Steve Gillmor
I hear that @Pistachio, @Loic will be on today's Gillmor Gang at 1pm. - Cliff Gerrish
Should be a great show! Laura @Pistachio is a great lady - and who doesn't like Loic? - Jim Connolly
looking forward to it - Kevin Marks
Hi Laura!!! - Francine Hardaway
No one there. - Paul W. Swansen
who's doing darth vader breathing? - Kevin Marks
Finally running a bit late. - Paul W. Swansen
Not me. - Robert Scoble
a bit loud all of a sudden - Rocky Barbanica
John Borthwick of BetaWorks live on the GillmorGang. - Cliff Gerrish
how many of you are joining us at the ReadWrite Real-Time Web Summit next Thurs? John Borthwick is! http://readwriteweb.com/summit hi John! :) - Marshall Kirkpatrick
a spot on her camera is distracting - Rocky Barbanica
Marshall: I will. - Robert Scoble
I am joining you there - Brian Hendrickson
Rocky: that's a mouse pointer. - Robert Scoble
I'm joining the http://readwriteweb.com/summit @marshallk - looking forward to it - Kevin Marks
if Twitter=AOL we should see a "web" twitter soon. - Robert Scoble
the spot is there even on loic's cam - Nishant
Yeah, it's not on her camera... it's on everybody's - Ken Sheppardson
We've got a cursor problem that we know about. We'll just hav to live with it for this show. - Cliff Gerrish
no - now it's on Loic- must be tricaster - Rocky Barbanica
nice mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.... whoo! - Jay
oh good! didn't know you were coming Robert, glad to hear it! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall: I'm not sure if I reserved my Twitter ticket yet. :-) - Robert Scoble
ahh thanks cliff - Rocky Barbanica
that comes from the mouse/keyboard sharing utility probably - if they are running multiple skype computers - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
seriously.... someone pick that booger! - Jay
What, you mean Kevin's birthmark? - Ken Sheppardson
and fix the wide faces LOL - dstamand
Bear, bingo - Cliff Gerrish
Isn't everyone born with a mouse cursor on their face? - Robert Scoble
Evan Prodromou on Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference today 07 Oct 2009 http://www.w3.org/2009... - Brian Hendrickson
=D - Jay
Would have been interesting to watch this discussion on wave. SO much chaos! yikes! FF is better! :-) - Nishant
There's always something going on with the technology on GG - Francine Hardaway
FF is different, not better. - Ken Sheppardson
Someone is typing on a keyboard, knock that off. - Robert Scoble
Yes. different and better for such discussions - Nishant
Suggestion: Mute when not talking. - Arnie Klaus
And we heard someone drinking coffee or something as well - Pierre TAMISIER
Love these British accents and guys who sound like they're talking in tunnels - Francine Hardaway
Just what I need. An explosion of data coming into the stream - Francine Hardaway
Sorry, Robert. I'm typing. Then again, I'm not on the call... didn't realize it was disruptive ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
I want tweetdeck or seesmic to be a full "real-time" web browser : with all real-time information in there : Twitter, Facebook... etc, but also Gmail, my RSS feeds,... etc - Julien
Ken, that doesn't mean we can't hear you. - Cliff Gerrish
Francine: I haven't seen any of that stuff on my stream yet. Probably has a big impact on search. - Robert Scoble
Julien => it sounds like google wave what you want - Pierre TAMISIER
Cliff: So you can hear the Blue Angels overhead too then? - Ken Sheppardson
Oh yeah. - Cliff Gerrish
Other people are reporting Blue Angels too. - Robert Scoble
I just saw them off the Pacifica coast - Rocky Barbanica
#blueangels should be trending topic on Twitter any minute. It's their first practice for Fleet Week today. - Ken Sheppardson
Julien I second that. Pierre really? Don't know yet. Need Wave to discover this. Anticipation greater. - amarquart
I like the split screen can you quad screen? - Rocky Barbanica
Rocky, not yet. It's a feature request for the Tricaster. But the double box is pretty cool. - Cliff Gerrish
split screen eliminates visible cursor issue - Rocky Barbanica
... waiting for the Moment of Win - Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel: we are too! :-) - Robert Scoble
The main issues for me about Seesmic and Tweetdeck are the memory size they require! - Pierre TAMISIER
Daniel: it usually comes after the show. - Robert Scoble
I was wrong. - Rocky Barbanica
lol @Daniel - Micah Wittman
Just *reply*, Robert. We'll follow-up and go back to look at the conversation if your reply is interesting. - Ken Sheppardson
Robert is hitting on an idea that I have wanted for awhile. I don't want to restream all the tweets of the day, just a few choice. - amarquart
Flag a conversation as interesting by participating. - Ken Sheppardson
@Amarquart - are you thinking something like Friendfeed's Best of Day for lists? - Daniel J. Pritchett
is there an audio archive for these new gillmor gangs? - Jamie
"Re:" - Ken Sheppardson
all I want to do is hear the show on my commute. this live shit is annoying. - Jamie
@daniel rather move to my posterous. not in friendfeed - amarquart
Jamie: get an iPHone. - Robert Scoble
I have an iPhone - Jamie
Jamie: Look for Bootleg Gillmor Gang on iTunes - Ken Morley
I want an RSS feed - Jamie
FriendFeed was very close to what I want, but didn't give me enough choice on controlling/separating my words out from yours. - Robert Scoble
latest bootleg gillmor gang is 9.17 - Jamie
/me casts Level 9 Lazyweb of the infinite - Daniel J. Pritchett
You can listen to Ustream live on iPhone with the Ustream app. - Robert Scoble
Still hate hashtags, although I use them - Francine Hardaway
Keep looking, I have 10.01 via iTunes. - Ken Morley
I know but the live format isnt always convenient from a timing perspective. some of us work! lol - Jamie
Francine: I use them less and less, usually only for conferences. And even then I hate them. - Robert Scoble
Oh, and people now spam by putting hashtags on irrelevant tweets - Francine Hardaway
I need a visual map on how these things work or I can't adapt easily. - Arnie Klaus
Bored dog just countersurfed in my kitchen, took the top off the crockpot and tried to take out the chicken! Thank goodness a fail! - Francine Hardaway
thanks Ken I will try again - Jamie
Can someone please move the pointer out of the middle of the screen? - Matthew Schrock
I like Brizzly's take on a wikified hashtag index right inside the client. It's got flaws but it's a good start. Would love to see an "official" hashtag wiki. Then again, Twitter doesn't feel like a wiki-friendly company. More on Brizzly at http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Daniel J. Pritchett
Laura's not odd -- just far more like everyone else - Ian McGee
Matthew, we just have to live with it for this show. - Cliff Gerrish
Just keep a 2-shot, Cliff :-) - Ken Sheppardson
friendfeed's text is too grey. I had to to make http://friendlierfeed.appspot.com to read it - Kevin Marks
good show so far! - Rocky Barbanica
I only go to Friendfeed because my friends are there:-) Easier to see them there. BTW, I'm not seeing a cursor - Francine Hardaway
Thanks Cliff. - Matthew Schrock
Robert, I'm curious, are you aware of Cliqset? Some of the issues you've brought up are problems we're very interested and about to help solve. - Darren
Yeah, I'm barely aware of Cliqset, I will be interested in trying that out. Probably this weekend. - Robert Scoble
cursor moved - Rocky Barbanica
Wanna call me and walk me through it? +1-425-205-1921 - Robert Scoble
ah, I see Daren is here too - Marshall Kirkpatrick
MySpace? Never heard of them! LOL!!! - Rocky Barbanica
ah - cliqset requires a beta code - anyway to get one? - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Hey Dan! - Rocky Barbanica
looks like we need a standard for these activities in a stream... oh wait there's one! What we need is an easy wait to be a "source" with existing clients (ie. making seesmic/tweedeck activity stream clients for many services, not just twitter/facebook) - Sylvain Carle
Creating a simple and effective way for a social media publishing workflow (avoiding duplication) is very difficult at the moment. - Mark Krynsky
crowd-sourced design; fun - Ian McGee
The IM streams came together in the client. Pidgin, Adium, Trillian, etc. - Ken Sheppardson
Chamillionaire interview on building43 tomorrow hosted by Michael Sean Wright - Rocky Barbanica
Michael Sean Wright is sitting next to me. - Robert Scoble
Ridin' Dirty Chamillionaire? - Daniel J. Pritchett
Yea, the came in the client... but never further than that : Mosaic would have never been the web browser if it couldn't browse any website : http://blog.superfeedr.com/Real-ti... - Julien
"Privacy" means "multi groups" while "public" means "one group", no ? - Baptiste Cadiou
Just signing into Cliqset to see if it solves anything - Francine Hardaway
Public means multiple scale free microcommunities. - Cliff Gerrish
Public = you determine whether or not you're a member, Private = I do. - Ken Sheppardson
Same Chamillionaire, Daniel - Rocky Barbanica
I have to run. - Robert Scoble
Steve: I have to run, I have a Mashable chat I have to do. - Robert Scoble
OK, bye Robert. - Cliff Gerrish
Still haven't gotten a wave invite. 2 people said they sent them - Francine Hardaway
Realtime audience mining (to Mashable) - Arnie Klaus
If blinders = control, we're in trouble - Ken Sheppardson
As long as you let "everyone" view what you're saying, you can't really block any particular person from seeing it. - Ken Sheppardson
nice reference to dynamic memory :) - Hilary Talbot
Francine, Google is metering the invites that are in the queue. It may take a while. - Matthew Schrock
Google Reader has made steps with regards to curation by friends. Louis Gray is my shared items guru :) - Mark Krynsky
to calculate what's trending around your friends, you need a lot of friends ^^ - Baptiste Cadiou
Not if you also expand the network to friends of your friends Baptiste - Mark Krynsky
also http://oneforty.com/item... shows stories your friends read - Kevin Marks
Agree with Mark K - GR does a good job, feedly is a fine app which also provides suggestions. - Dave Martin
I wrote about Twitter Times yesterday which Kevin just mentioned http://lifestreamblog.com/custom-... It's a great way to filter Twitter links by the people you follow on Twitter. - Mark Krynsky
Well, it shouldn't have to be just your friends... I'd like to see some sort of wizard that let you build up groups, e.g. "Create a group of all the peole my friends follow, and show me trending topics among those people" - Ken Sheppardson
Micromessage derivatives. - Cliff Gerrish
Ken, if Twitter rolls out lists soon and allows that data to be passed to the API Twitter Times could leverage that automatically. - Mark Krynsky
I want to see the principal that Twitter Times has released to be created on a wider scale. Imagine that logic expanded across multiple social media services and the people you follow on each of them. Then mash the data across all of them. It become far more interesting and useful at that point. - Mark Krynsky
Kevin, TwitterTimes looks like something actually useful. - Francine Hardaway
Anyone on Cliqset? Couldn't find anyone I know - Francine Hardaway
Mashability toward Monetization - Arnie Klaus
I'm on there Francine but honestly haven't used it much - Mark Krynsky
filtered feeds toward frictionless transactions - Arnie Klaus
What is the value of a user of any app? - Arnie Klaus
appreciate Laura being on GG. enjoying her imput. - Hilary Talbot
this sounds like good advice - Brian Hendrickson
Its great that this show is not tightly limited in time. It allows the conversations to flourish. - Arnie Klaus
Love you Laura! - Francine Hardaway
Bravos, Steve. Good show. P.S. Great to hear that @Pistachio is officially a member of TGG. - Dave Martin
Great show!! - Arnie Klaus
great show - Jamie
yes @hil121 great to have @pistachio here too - very insightful - Kevin Marks
Thanks to all the participants of today's Gillmor Gang. Y'all rock! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks to the audience too - realtime and otherwise. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Brian Hendrickson
RT @unstko Twitter for your own webspace: openmicroblogger.org See this #german tutorial how to install http://www.drweb.de/magazin... It looks nice!
All it that it is is a wordpress theme. I have it on my blog, too. - Kevin Winn
openmicroblogger doesn't use WordPress, it has a Restful web services back-end with a number of built-in Rest-MVC ruby-on-rails-style micro-apps. openmicroblogger does a full round trip from Twitter (is a Twitter client) and it has built-in support for Facebook Connect, Amazon S3 file storage, Zeep Mobile SMS I/O, lots of other stuff. it is new and buggy, too. - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
Re: Cli.gs URL Shortener To Shut Down - http://mashable.com/2009...
"Sean O said "it's easy to setup a URL shortener" but setting up a self-hosted Web app and SQL database is too difficult for most. There is an alternative: http://rp.ly lets you easily make short URLs on your own domain name: s.yourdomain.com or you.ly -- that way you're not advertising someone else's service, and your shortening-data is exportable as an RSS feed, so you're never again dependent on some service with a shaky business model. brian@rp.ly" - Brian Hendrickson
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Dear FF, give us tags like Google Reader does !
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There are hashtags. - Burcu Dogan
which clutter up the message - Marlin Forbes
In fact, I say replace hashtags with tags - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
In their own container, not part of the message. - Marlin Forbes
Agreed, Marlin - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It's META-data, data about the data, it should not be in the data. - Marlin Forbes
Check this out: I posted a note (without any link), and it's imported into FF here: http://friendfeed.com/highand... - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It'd be cool if you could type the hash symbol before a keyword in the content for that word to be automatically added to the "Add tags" field. Then you could add other tags that aren't also a part of the content, but only when necessary. The problem with an extra field is that it's often not used (too much of a "hassle"). - Grey Drane
Grey, that's a good idea. Also, I like the way Google has implemented it. It's so ... clean. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Haven't used the Google Reader interface in a while since moving to Feedly. I'll check it out. - Grey Drane
Definately that is the thing FF is missing - tags are very useful, especially when I'd liek to find some old messages based on poast topic. Please FF add separate tag field. - Duszolap
Tags should be hidden, yep. - Kol Tregaskes
I agree - FF is missing tags wich are specialy useful when searching some old messages. Please give us tag support! - Duszolap
I like the idea of tags in FF, I wouldn't want to give up the hashtag ability :) ... I see hashtags as adding context to signal in a way that helps others organize around ideas... if I had tags, I'd inevitably apply too many and then how would folks 'really' know what the key tag was? - Holly Rae
#hashtags ftw! tags take up space on the screen whether they are part of the post or separate, might as well make them as integrated and simple as possible - Mike Chelen
Louis Gray
It's Twitter's World: The Second, Parallel, Internet - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Louis, I think this is probably your best-written post yet. Well done, sir. - Jesse Stay
with you Jesse this is LG's best. When is he going to write a book do you think? I want to read LG on the planes. I've seen all the movies. I've read all the papers. I want stuff like Parallel Internet in book form. - Thomas Power
Starting to feel a little jealous after Thomas's post ;-) - Jesse Stay
Hey Jesse why you jealous? cos' I've seen all the movies ...what can I say that's iTunes for you - Thomas Power
really enjoyed this one! nice job, Louis - Brian Hendrickson
Myrna
Lavender Lines | tatielle:dude (via ♥motypest) - http://lavenderlines.tumblr.com/post...
Lavender Lines | tatielle:dude (via ♥motypest)
Kosher Kittah? - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Jack, that an interesting thought! - Myrna
Brian :) - Myrna
very funny :)) - آریـوبرزن
Steve Gillmor
I hear Phil Windley and Craig Burton are going to be on today's Gillmor Gang. - Cliff Gerrish
Sounds like a great show! - Rob La Gesse
Hi Steve - Keith Teare
i've been missing the live action but the transcript from the last show was a fun read - Brian Hendrickson
"[Google] Wave is saying, okay, our structure model is (unintelligible) " lol @kevinmarks http://bh.ly/0w - Brian Hendrickson
@Scobleizer - got a Wave invite for me? - Keith Teare
i want a wave invite...she whined. - Karoli
Does whinining work? - Cliff Gerrish
guess we're going to find out. LOL - Karoli
So the discussion is SideWiki, not Wave -- Google still the topic. - Cliff Gerrish
SideWiki is a blogging tool. - Kevin Marks
wonder when SideWiki will come to my chrome. want it. - Christopher Harris
I was just about to say that. SideWiki. . . - Ron Hudson
Although, it's not really a wiki. - Cliff Gerrish
dont believe the hype ;) - sull
Seems like SideWiki, Echo and Disqus all do something similar. - Cliff Gerrish
The web will become like Wings of Desire - We will all be able to listen to everyone's mind. - Arnie Klaus
Just wrote a Sidewiki entry on "Category Archives: Real-time" http://bit.ly/12HDF - Ron Hudson
We are thinking about you! - Arnie Klaus
Amorphous - Arnie Klaus
you guys should call up Leo Laporte and bring him into this conversation - Brian Hendrickson
I don't even understand the concept of chat gathered around the Gillmor Gang any more. Do they mean the comments on this post? - Matt Terenzio
Tina says KEVIN NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN! - Cliff Gerrish
invisible backchannels - Kevin Marks
Okay. - Matt Terenzio
sorry wasn't making fun of you kevin! - Brian Hendrickson
The difference between Sidewiki and Echo and Disqus is that Disqus and Echo give control over what get displayed to blog owner. - Robert Scoble
I wrote a side wiki for the /realtime page. There is no way to edit it? - Ron Hudson
But Sidewiki isn't something you add to your blog, it's just a portal that a small subset of users use to look at it - Brian Hendrickson
I'd like to see SideWiki allow WebHooks, so when you submit a post it can also update another service ... Kind of like Posterous - Ideas At Random
Control is an illusion. - Cliff Gerrish
Echo and Disqus can bring the sidewiki feed back into it - Kevin Marks
I's not controlling conversation I object to just reaching across a network and changing the way my content is displayed. I have no objections to a client side mashup or even a peer to peer - Matt Terenzio
You do have control over what you write. You don't have control over what OTHER PEOPLE write. - Ken Sheppardson
SideWiki is MOST dangerous because it isn't RSS-enabled, and there's no way to properly monitor it. - Ike Pigott
SideWiki has a feed for every page and for every user, wrong Ike - Kevin Marks
Y'all realize Diigo has been doing this same thing for a couple years now, right? Folks just haven't objected because they don't know about it. There will *always* be side converasations you don't know about that you can't control. - Ken Sheppardson
framing is wrong. I format my content to browser size (just devil's advocate, I don't do that) - Matt Terenzio
Kevin, I have yet to see the feed. - Ike Pigott
It's not "framing", it's a browser add-in. Only those who've chosen to install the "app" see it. - Ken Sheppardson
Scoble seems to advocate ignorance as a blissful state. - Cliff Gerrish
Nice nodes, Robert - Ross Mayfield
what do you want a feed for, Ike? Which page? - Kevin Marks
Gillmor suggests by his actions just now that there needs to be a judge(ment). Where is the referee. - Arnie Klaus
You could build a similar service that displays the comments from FriendFeed related to a specific page in the sidebar. IT's the same API http://ffcheck.com uses. Would you object to that, Robert? - Ken Sheppardson
I'd be interesting if SideWiki was a wiki - Ross Mayfield
why would that make you interesting? - Brian Hendrickson
as long as they don't change the display of my content, I think it's fine. - Matt Terenzio
SideWiki is really more of a palimpsest. - Cliff Gerrish
What is the difference between sidewiki and just twittering with a #scobleizer tag? - Ron Hudson
I am choosing to go to site A and I am choosing to install sidewiki. Why should site A control what I see there? - Ryan
You still have control over that frame, Robert. You don't (i.e. shouldn't) have control over my sidebar. - Ken Sheppardson
I'm stuck on bandaid. - Jay Cuthrell
cuz bandaid's stuck on me - Jay Cuthrell
Yeah, Ken you are right - Matt Terenzio
Robert - remember when I closed my FriendFeed account and you argued that I deleted YOUR comments stream? - Rob La Gesse
Nobody's modifying what you're trying to display. There's a supplemental app that's displaying additional information about your page, Robert. And you have nothing to say about it, nor should you. - Ken Sheppardson
Robert's totally right. Rock on - Stephen Pickering
Ken, bullshit - Stephen Pickering
You'll have to make a logical argument, Stephen. Epithets don't work. - Ken Sheppardson
It's his page - Stephen Pickering
It's my browser and desktop. - Ken Sheppardson
That was MY post that the comments were attached to. I deleted that linkage - which affected you, and you were pissed :) - Rob La Gesse
It's defacing his page - Stephen Pickering
Kevin, I just tried plugging URLs into that API, and it doesn't pull. - Ike Pigott
He delivered his page to my browser the way he wanted, once on my browser I can do anything to it - Ryan
you need to escape the :// stuff - Kevin Marks
Google Toolbar = evil :) - Rob La Gesse
Aren't all audiences shared, and the audience owns itself? - Ross Mayfield
You already do anything you want with pages in your browser. - Cliff Gerrish
But ken if a plugin said, here Google take this page I want and add all the extra metadata to it and return it to me. That is wrong. It's different than a local client gathering content and displaying the way the enduser wants. technicality, but that is law. and I'm no lawyer - Matt Terenzio
sidewiki isn't part of anybody's blog. it is an abstraction layer that becomes visible when a sidewiki user visits the blog - Keith Teare
Do I have the "right" to install ad-blocking plugins? Do I have the "right' to install Greasemonkey or Stylish to change fonts and background colors? - Ken Sheppardson
Robert is trying to say sidewiki is like yelp gluing reviews to restaurant doors. - Ron Hudson
Sidewiki is defacement - Stephen Pickering
Who needs Sidewiki? - Jonathan Brown
Yeah, why do all these geeks even have Google toolbar, anyway? - Matt Terenzio
no, you need the full URL with trailing slashes and everything - Kevin Marks
Spamwiki? - Arnie Klaus
actually, Robert's password IS his phone number :) - Robert J Taylor
But *I* as the reader, am the one making the choice to "deface" the page. It's not as if every visitor is being forced to read those comments. It's MY CHOICE to see them. - Ken Sheppardson
I did that too, Kevin. It didn't resolve, didn't pull in the very comment I left. - Ike Pigott
100% correct Ken - Ryan
SideWike is Google stepping in the same pile of dogshit that others have stepped in before. - Rob La Gesse
Imagine if Yelp went around gluing reviews to restaurant windows! Absurd! - Ron Hudson
There's money in blogs? - Jay Cuthrell
How about Instapaper, which bookmarks your page and reformats it for mobile browsing. Is that "allowed"? - Ken Sheppardson
Ken that would be fine if you were the only one who could read your defacement or see it - Stephen Pickering
I feel VERY sorry for the first company to get hammered in SideWiki during crisis communications. - Ike Pigott
Your defacing it and the public can see it - Stephen Pickering
Robert we are with you. - Ron Hudson
btw, I'm using Sidewiki on this FriendFeed page - Ross Mayfield
No you are not Stephen, if someone doesn't have sidewiki installed they can't see it - Ryan
Ike, they will be hammered somewhere else anyway - Kevin Marks
No, it's not the "public", it's all those users who've made the choice to view a conversation in a sidebar related to your page. - Ken Sheppardson
Not defacing the site - but MOVING the conversation - which affects branding, value, etc - Rob La Gesse
so its not defacement for all - Ryan
But if they do have sidewiki they do - Stephen Pickering
So you don't ever talk about blog posts or web pages on FriendFeed then, right, Stephen? - Ken Sheppardson
then they choose to see that content, it wasn't forced on them - Ryan
OK, at the count of three, everyone uninstall Google Toolbar. Then they will just build it into Firefox. And BECOME MS - Rob La Gesse
Kevin, you're right -- but THOSE posts and comments will be more easily sortable, findable, and addressable. SideWiki is way too chaotic. And since all the SideWiki comments live on GOOGLE domain, they will show up in search eventually! - Ike Pigott
Ken, hell yes, I do, but that's on FriendFeed and not on somebody's site - Stephen Pickering
"we had no choice" is the critical aspect that isn't being addressed by wider audiences - Jay Cuthrell
If I told you that I was using the FriendFeed API to retrieve and display all conversations related to the page I'm visiting in my sidebar, would you object to that, Stephen? See http://ffcheck.com - Ken Sheppardson
yes Ken, but just because you ask me, I can't legally send a copy of something to you. Not saying they do this here, but I bet they want to soon if they mix it with search data and deliver ads, for example - Matt Terenzio
They don't all live on Google's domain - that was my point about http://oneforty.com where SideWiki shows the TechCrunch RWW et al posts - Kevin Marks
people who publish web pages need to host a more friendfeed-like discussion experience if they want to counter the sidewiki effect - Brian Hendrickson
Steve - that IS an economically feasible plan - Rob La Gesse
I just made a comment on this chat using side wiki http://bit.ly/V8TWq but I don't see anyone else's - Ron Hudson
Ron - what I said - Brian Hendrickson
Quoting @GinaTrapani: "Prediction: Google Sidewiki will go the way of Google Knol (ie, you'll never hear about it again)" - Mike Doeff
SideWiki is poised to become Yahoo message boards or YouTube comments - Robert J Taylor
SideWiki is so Cuil. - Ike Pigott
Good. There will be a hell of a push back if it does take off - Stephen Pickering
This whole industry that attempts to monetize content by framing it in a particular context, i.e. wrapped by ads, is sorta doomed, IMHO. In the long run. - Ken Sheppardson
Brian I don't see your posts. just mine - Ron Hudson
Yeah, so what's next, Ken, Google will put its own ads on my site? - Stephen Pickering
No. I'm saying ads are dead. - Ken Sheppardson
I posted a direct link to a Sidewiki comment I added here. - Ike Pigott
please move on. - sull
Ike - when I clicked the link then I saw your link, but not mine or anyone else's - Ron Hudson
everything is a "backchannel" - sull
Ron, I refreshed the page, and no one else's SideWiki entries are displayed. - Ike Pigott
Don't backchannel me bro! - Robert Scoble
Which URL did you use, Ike? I think there are number of different URLs/views. - Ken Sheppardson
Scoble uses the backchannel to request we not backchannel him. - Cliff Gerrish
Life is a backchannel. - Ken Sheppardson
I have no idea what that means. - Ken Sheppardson
"Don't backchannel me bro!" tshirts would sell well I bet. - Jay Cuthrell
"Don't backchannel me bro! - Robert Scoble" - heh - Rob La Gesse
pretty soon we won't know what is true and who said it! we are doomed! - Matt Terenzio
What about DotSpots? Introduced at least year's TC 50 and finally launched a few weeks ago... http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Mike Doeff
I have to take several ibuprofen every day for my backchannel problem. - Jerry Schuman
Ken, find me the feed for this link: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b... - Ike Pigott
SideWiki turns blogs into Fox News - Rob La Gesse
Mike -- DotSpots is the same issue as well. Very good catch. - Jay Cuthrell
So, what does SideWiki with Wikipedia mean? - Robert J Taylor
Sidewiki is the new standard for comments on all websites. Just install a Wordpress plugin for bringing Sidewiki entries into your blog comments. - Charbax
I see yours now Ike, I commented on a different url. SideWiki #fail - Ron Hudson
No Rob... SideWiki turns blogs into subway cars, in a town that sells permanent infrared spraypaint. - Ike Pigott
All systems need calibration or the noise takes over. - Arnie Klaus
ooooookay - Jay Cuthrell
we know that, but is it legal? - Matt Terenzio
Ike - nice - Rob La Gesse
"You're so 10 mins ago" <- this is Real Time, after all :) - Robert J Taylor
knew VRM would make it in here! - Matt Terenzio
Sidewiki will never take off and even if it does, there will be so much push back just like the digg framer that they will discontinue it - Stephen Pickering
Jay, yeah DotSpots raises the same issues but nobody is talking about them because they're relatively unknown (unlike Google) - Mike Doeff
I hope Google puts SideWiki in Firefox. That will be the start of the anti-trust investigation - Rob La Gesse
Sidewiki or something like it will absolutely take off, you just won't know about it. - Ken Sheppardson
I see the other comments now - Ron Hudson
Can't we sell in the sidewiki? - Arnie Klaus
My browser is not your place of business, Robert. - Ken Sheppardson
plugin functionality is quickly being surpassed by things like Comet/AJAX, so what's next.. who can write AJAX? - Jerry Schuman
but my site is my place of business (so to speak) - Robert J Taylor
Your browser isn't but when you can use it to deface his website, it is his place of business - Stephen Pickering
Jeez... we're going in circles yet again.. - Ken Sheppardson
Google isn't as well known as we'd like to think. Sidewiki should be enabled on every news article ever created. Every news article should have a Wikipedia stub. If Google assists, fine... but I'd rather see the overlay be outside control of any one company. - Jay Cuthrell
Friendfeed can easily bring sidewiki entries inside friendfeeds feeds - Charbax
I wish that death spiral would accelerate. - Jerry Schuman
I'm drawing a moustache on Robert Scoble right now. - Cliff Gerrish
This is about as useful as wave. I'm out. - Ron Hudson
Charbax: And FriendFeed in a sidebar can essentialy replace Sidewiki - Ken Sheppardson
There will be so much push back on this you won't believe it. This will be taken to court and Google ruled against - Stephen Pickering
What nonsense that guy just said - Stephen Pickering
I just pushed SideWiki into my Friendfeed, and my Friendfeed spools into my SideWiki profile, and it hasn't caused me any probl - Ike Pigott
Transient logic... next big push.. data push first.. logic push next. - Jerry Schuman
it is a document that is being passed across the web, despite how complicated the creation and distribution is. ultimately it is html and javascript - Matt Terenzio
Sidewiki needs to bring in Google Reader comments related to the "post"/page it's displaying. That'd be slick. - Ken Sheppardson
the document comes from a location, or multiple locations - Matt Terenzio
Sidewiki already brings in relevant related blog posts from blogsearch/google news - Charbax
Isn't the location metaphor broken, just like the silo metaphor. - Cliff Gerrish
we're resurrecting "compound document" architectures ala OpenDoc - Jerry Schuman
Right. Firefox? What? - Jay Cuthrell
I think anyone disclosing that would be subject to whisteblower status. - Jay Cuthrell
Someone has to host all the web's comments, I'd rather it be Google than Facebook. - Charbax
Charbax - I would prefer it is distributed - Rob La Gesse
maybe microsoft is the new microsoft and google is slightly changed google - Matt Terenzio
Okay... I'm out. (please allow me to continue with my fantasy that anyone noticed I was in) - Ike Pigott
Bye Ike. - Cliff Gerrish
Do we truly care who hammed a nail? Or do we mostly care that the nail was hammered properly? (pertaining to "identity") - Jay Cuthrell
I'd prefer that comments be distributed, and when you view an "entry" or some chunk of content, all the associated, linked comments on and items related to that item can be pulled from wherever they live and displayed for me, subject to filtering I define. - Ken Sheppardson
You can just load the comments from Google's Sidewiki server by simply copying from the RSS feeds. - Charbax
we don't want nails, just weak glue - Matt Terenzio
"please show your comment card" - Jay Cuthrell
Webmasters should not be able to filter comments. That's the whole point. Power to the people, not the current establishment of the web - Charbax
NASCAR? - Jay Cuthrell
I love the fact that if you run Kevin's twitter id through a twitter sentiment tool he's categorized as "post-graduate" ;-) - Jerry Schuman
that was google worthy :) - Jay Cuthrell
The NASCAR problem is the zillions of identity logins available on sites supporting openid. - Cliff Gerrish
Cliff - yeah that was the first google hit :) - Jay Cuthrell
Hey Ken, are you coming to IIW? - Cliff Gerrish
I wonder how NASCAR feels about that? ;-) I didn't get that as a top hit relating to mechanical engineering or marketing elements related to car racing. - Jay Cuthrell
I might... I should.... Nov 3-5 at the Comp History Museum? - Ken Sheppardson
Can you /sidewiki/ sidewiki? - Jay Cuthrell
Damn you Steve! - Rob La Gesse
Ownership of content is dead. - Ken Sheppardson
Yes, Ken. I'll be at IIW. - Cliff Gerrish
This event was Tricasted thanks to NewTek! - Rob La Gesse
Could you check the audio sync before posting this on Youtube? all the other Gillmor Gang Youtube videos seem to be out of sync - Charbax
Good show. - Mike Doeff
This show was TriCasted :) ... like that - Robert J Taylor
i'll have to pick it up on the rerun. deadlines and doctor's appointments intervened. - Karoli
Charbax google is working on fixing - Steve Gillmor
Google/YouTube is looking in to the sound sync problem. It's happend on a number of other videos too. - Cliff Gerrish
Is there an rss feed to download the videos from YouTube yet? - Christian Burns from iPhone
Christian: You can be notified of a new upload via this RSS feed: http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds... - Jack
Really interesting show. - Amyloo
Still listening to the show, but one idea that doesn't seem to have been brought up on the sidewiki debate is the fact that I can create a custom CSS template for a page (Scobleizer.com for example) and even further change and/or modify a website's appearance and look. What happens when Google creates a proverbial "sideCSS" widget to allow everyone easy access to modify the look of... more... - Chris Aldrich
Doesn't RSS already strip all the formatting from a website in order to transport one level of value? - Cliff Gerrish
Not every site has RSS. haven't you heard it's dead? - Matt Terenzio
Meryn Stol
I want to repeat my prediction that - after a period of much hype - Google Wave will fizzle. A lot of ideas contained in Wave will find their way to the mainstream, but in other ways, through other channels. Not many ideas in Wave are unique though.
With "fizzling" I do not mean it won't find a niche somewhere. Practically anything good finds a niche. FriendFeed has found a niche too. But Wave is *not* the successor to email. And will also not in any way be a major second platform besides the web. - Meryn Stol
wave is meant to happen like that - it is a protocol after all, so anyone can built interoperable toys or tools that can run over wave, which can also interface which just about any other network. And because of the distributed nature, they dont have to host it all themselves. That lowers the barrier of entry for testing ideas yet again. And what you built won't ask users to duplicate... more... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I don't see why one would have to take the whole Wave protocol for that. I think the Wave protocol is too big. Adoption of the ideas inside Wave will happen more granular, by existing players. Of course we get compatibility between networks... But why not go on tightening the ropes we've already laid out? Integration of Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, FriendFeed, Google Reader is humming along just fine. Now suddenly everyone will need to talk "Wave"? - Meryn Stol
Wake me up when prominent people from major networks (esp. Twitter, Facebook), or major open source projects say Wave is the future. I have the feeling all these Wave fanboys are - relatively - at the periphery of the tech world. - Meryn Stol
Just to be clear: What do I expect instead? Twitter, FriendFeed, Facebook, etc integrating more tightly via things like activitystrea,ms, openid, pubsubhubbub, possibly XMPP hacks and the like. - Meryn Stol
you always care so much about "prominent people" - who cares what they analysts say, they hype things that vanish all the time, and snub things that turn out to be hugely useful all the time. They ignore as much as they report, often by tactical choice for their brand rather than real analysis. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I guess many are early adopters so that they have the edge if/when something new turns up. Some want to be ahead of the mainstream and ditch it when it becomes too popular. - Jemm
I love what Google Wave is: [theoretically] self-hostable, open source, standards-based. but there will only ever be one [in]complete implementation of it if it took all of Google's resources, 40 people, 2 years to create this first partially complete version. - Brian Hendrickson
I havent even seen wave so I cant comment, but to me the future is most certainly distributed - people want control of their interactions, their content etc. they dont want their stuff to disappear without notice, and they dont want to have to manually replicate their network for every task. Google wave is simply the next generation of xmpp, with added persistence and threading. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As I said, Wave's ideas WILL find their way into the mainstream (I'm not merely talking about its UI or end-user features), it will just happen through a more evolutionary path from where we are now. - Meryn Stol
I am totally in agreement with you on that front - as a matter of fact, you really sounded like me early in this thread "it's not *that* new and not *that* game changing" ;) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, have you taken a look at Directeur's SocNode project? That's how simple distributed real-time social networking nodes can be. http://www.socnode.org/ - Meryn Stol
I would like to find out for myself. If only... - Jim in Real Time
Meryn Stol
Twitter Blog: Soon to Launch: Lists - http://blog.twitter.com/2009...
Twitter Blog: Soon to Launch: Lists
"... a new feature we're testing with a small subset of users. The idea is to allow people to curate lists of Twitter accounts. For example, you could create a list of the funniest Twitter accounts of all time, athletes, local businesses, friends, or any compilation that makes sense." - Meryn Stol from Bookmarklet
Brian Hendrickson
Re: HowTo: Sharing links in the River2 community - http://newsriver.org/r2ly...
"this is really neat and everything worked smoothly when I tried it out. now pondering how a long-poll and rssCloud callback could update my River2." - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
Re: Sharing links in the River2 community (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"that's what you get for telling everyone our secret! :-)" - Brian Hendrickson
Brian Hendrickson
Re: DNS for RSS feeds (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"that's how I designed my rssCloud Rest/DNS server.. when you make a new zone like supercloud.org, it puts an A record there at the top level and then starts pumping out new TXT records for the subdomains" - Brian Hendrickson
Robert Scoble
Welcome Ryan!
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Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - Rhys Amos
Congrats. Now the fun begins!!! - Mike Shields
Awesome! - dstamand
Congratulations! - Stephan Planken
Congratulations! Welcome, Ryan! - Lance M. Brown
Awesome - RetiredTeacherD
Yay! Congratulations! - Jesse Stay
YAYAYAYAYAY! Congrats to you and Maryam!@#!@#! - drew olanoff
congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome Ryan. - rick
Welcome to the world. - Dave Mora
Congratulations!!! - Mike Doeff
Born 11:32. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
LOL He was keepin ya'll on yer toes. CONGRATS! - Danny Minick
Yay! Congratulations to you and your wife! Now off to buy RSS and iPhone - Lise
Congrats!!!!! - Mark Evans
Congratulations! - Kenneth
I hope you're well rested, Robert ... ;-) - Hieronymus Murphy
Congrats Robert! - Charlie Anzman
Congratulations! - 321
He looks like you. - Cjay
Congratulations! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Congrats to you all - JanLawrence
Congrats Robert and welcome RSS! - Robb Brock
Congratulations! Happy Birthday Ryan! Lots of love to the whole family. - Jodi Church
SUBSCRIBED! - drew olanoff
Hello World! - CannonGod
Congratulations!! Welcome to the world Ryan!! :) - Laura Zickus
<rss> awesome! </rss> - sean percival
welcome to the new world little one! all hail our pink squirming screaming overlord! - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
LOL at CannonGod's comment. It's like he started a Wordpress blog. XD - Danny Minick
When does he start micro blogging? - Cjay
20.5 inches long. 7 lbs. 13 oz. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
nice alpha version. welcome RSS ! - Kaïs Miled
congrats!! welcome rss! - barbarars
Ryan is no longer in beta! LOL :D Congrats, Scoble! - Danny Minick
Congratulations :) - امیرعباس
RSS is finally here! Congrats Robert & Maryam - Dennis Jernberg
Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - joupy
Congratulations! - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Blessings, and the best Robert! - Nakeva Corothers
Cute! - Charlie Anzman
مبارک باشه Congratulations - هامد - Just Like that
Congrats!!! - Jim Williams
Grats! - Denverken
مبارکه رفیق رابرت . خدا حفظش کنه - جـوان ایرانی
If Dave Winer comes on here and claims to have invented RSS I will smack him. - drew olanoff
Congratulations! - joey
Congratulations and all the best. - Bryce Roney
Welcome Ryan!!! - Phil
Welcome Ryan :) - giuseppe c. | markgreene
Awesome. Congratulations! - John McCrea
Congratulations :-) - ѕнαнιη
Congratulations! - anna sauce
Congratulations :) Welcome Ryan :) - Mohamed Marwen Meddah
Congrats, Imagine where RSS and the web will be when he turns 30! - James Watters
Congratulations to you both. - Don McAllister
congrats Robert and Maryam :))))) - Conformist / Unforgiven
congrats to the family!! - erik yuzwa
Welcome to RSS in Pubsubhub mode :) - Ouriel Ohayon
Congrats to you all!! We had our second child, a boy, on Tuesday. Enjoy!! - Alex Cordiner from iPhone
Yay! Congrats to you, but mostly congrats to your wife for doing all of the hard work. ;-) xo - Jennifer Leggio
Mazel Tov! - Robb Vaules
Congrats Robert....wishing all the best to your family.... - Carlos
Congratulations! Wow! Seems like we were there just the other day! Looking forward to your late-night feeds and tweets and blog posts! - Louis Gray
You rock! Congrats. Thanks for sharing. How's mum doing? - Steve Lacey from iPhone
congrats! and welcome ryan - Daniel Levine
Congrats Robert - It is a fine family.... - Simarprit Singh
"beautiful new baby" by Robert Scoble, photojournalist. I stepped away for coffee and bang! RSS - Brian Hendrickson
nice! - Josh Haley from iPhone
Thank you so much for sharing - Sherrie Belken
:) congrats - Shandiz
Born on Talk like a Pirate Day, too! Yarrrr! - Josh Haley from iPhone
congrads ms & mr scoble, :) - chaz2b
Thanks to the good Docs! - Keith Rowland
congrats!! ^_^ - Christine Lu
Congrats! - Mycaptain
Steve: mum is sleeping but got to hold Ryan. Instant love! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Welcome, Guest dear to our world / Now the world is on your own - Conformist / Unforgiven
that feels good - Brian Hendrickson
Gonna have to learn to operate that iPhone with one hand. - Keith Rowland
Congratulations! - Parth Awasthi
Congratulations. Hope Maryam iis doing well - Rachel Clarke
Congratulations! Wish him all the best! - philos
Welcome Baby Ryan!!! My baby Ryan (17 years!) and I are honored to welcome another superstar to our planet! Love, hugs, and lots of kisses to Baby Ryan, Mommy Maryam, Dad Robert and big brothers Milan & Patrick and of course Grandma!!! My guess on Ryan's arrival (predication) was only 23 hours off. I thought he would arrive on Friday, Sept. 18th at 11:45 pm. Love to all, Kelly & Ryan Kim - Kelly S. Kim
Congrats, Robert and Maryam. - Derrick
Congratulations Robert, and well done Maryam! You are truly blessed :) - Nicola Quinn
So happy for you Robert and Maryam. Yeay...another FF baby! - Mark Krynsky
Congratulations! - Surachart Opun
What a moment, eh? I remember when my daughter came into this world, it was so exciting there were no words for it. Congrats on your wonderful baby boy! - Michael J. Carrasquillo
Congratulations - testbeta
Congratulations! Welcome to the world, Ryan. :-) - Yvette Ferry
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome Ryan. If I was having a baby today, I'd begin a blog for him/her straight away as an online diary they could look back on when grown up. - Sandra Large
he's so cute... - Sinem Vural
Robert, Congratulations to you and Maryamie! - Mike Fruchter
Wow, congrats to all of you! - Paul Salzman
Congratulations to you both! - Forrest W. Kobayashi
Great news guys! All the best! - Chris Nixon
الهــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــی چقده ناز نازیه.اینو فارسی نوشتم مریم جان بخونن ....راستی به باباش که نرفته:)) خوشگلتره:)) پس به شما رفته - joupy
congratulations!! - Jeroen De Miranda
Congratulations to you and your wife Robert! - Randy
Congrats Robert! - Terry Jones
congratz and welcome RSS! - Jon Winters
Congrats Maryam :-) - Terry Jones
Felicitations and humble prayers for your new son. - Victor Panlilio
congrats and best wishes! - Mike Chelen
Congratulations Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Jeff P. Henderson
Congrats!! - Tan Kaiquan
congrats and best wishes to all. :) - Naor Mark
Congratulations - Meral Alabaz
I was a c-section six week preemie in an era when that was seriously life-threatening, they didn't know if I would make for the first week. It always gets me a see a c-section / preemie come howling into the world. Welcome, little guy! - Bob Morris (polizeros) from iPhone
Beautiful baby! Congratulations daddy man :) - Gary
:) Congrats Robert... best wishes to your family! Get her name in twitter and ff! - Business Blogger【ツ】™
Congratulations to you and Maryam! - Elwin Witzke
AmazinG!! congratulations :) - Nakul
cutie pie baby - Debby Bruck
Congratulations :) - Baard @ Pixum
Ryan, good to see you. - Burçak Çubukçu
تولدش مبارک ^_^ Congratulations! - ‎‎Emad
Warm wishes and congratulations. Love that you posted him crying. - Irene Koehler
Congratulation to all of you! All the best for baby ryan!!! - Arne Krueger
Congrats to both of you :) - zephyrlily
Congratulation....best wishes to all - Opium
woooow like :) - کلـیـشه
Congrats M. & R. - Giuseppe M.
ووووی مبارکه، به مریم خانوم هم تبریک ما رو بگو - Zahra (raoros)
Congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome to geekdom Ryan! - Andrew Wardlaw
Contrats!!! I'm so excited!! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congrats.That pic brings back memories of my own baby's birth only ten months ago. C-section baby boys rock! - Georgiana Comsa
Mazel Tov to you and Maryam. - Michael Markman
Congrats... a few more Scobles make the world a better place ;-) - Aad 't Hart
Congrats! - George Mitsopoulos
Congrats... and Welcome Ryan. Good to have you among us. - Fatima
Congratulations! I - Michael Fidler
Wonderful news. Congrats. - Keri
Congrats Robert, and the best to you, Maryam, and of course Ryan! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Congratulations Congratulations !! - Farzad
Congrats - Sandeep Swaminathan
looking to to the same in 3 weeks - ROBIN SMITH
Congrats on the blessed event! :D - Joel Lovato
Congrats Robert and Maryam. Welcome Ryan !!!!!!!!! - Nir Ben Yona
Congratulations, Robert! - Mark Trapp
Congratulations to Robert and Maryam. - George Hall (Australia)
Right ON! I am so happy for you. I have 4 kids of my own and they are my greatest joys. Take care and I hope all goes so smooth for him and mom. - Robert Anderson
Congratulations! - J. Abdul-Qahhar
Daddy Scobleizer!!!!!!!!!! First things first....when will he be signed up for Twitter and FF? - krystyl
Congrats!!! - eric susch
welcome Ryan, it's a beautiful world - Michele Costabile
Congrats!! - Olivia Lovag
Congrats to the Scoble family from South Africa! Welcome to the world @RSS - Shaun Trennery
Good luck beatiful baby. - Oğulcan Selçuk Akbulut
Congrats, Robert! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations Robert, and welcome Ryan! - Giorgio Zarrelli
Congratulations Robert and R.S.S.: "Hello World" Cheers! - Louis Trapani
warmest congratulations - Peter Holland
what a beautiful baby=)Congratulations=) - Candan Celik
Such a miracle and a blessing - Congratulations to you and Maryam and "big" brothers! - Marla Schulman
Congrats, Robert. Amazing pictures! - Jordi Soler
Congratulations to all of your family! Enjoy! - Ed Richardson
Congratulations ... enjoy! - Hitesh Parashar
Congratulations!!!! He's beautiful! Welcome little one! I'm proud to share a birthday with you! - Martha
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! Welcome to the world Ryan :-) - Rasmus Lauridsen
happy birthday BABY - ≤ M@RzI
Best congratulations!!!! :) - CantorJF
Congrat Robert. It is wonderful what this new media could do to share your joy! - Gianto Widianto
Congratulations! - Steve Garfield
به به . قدم نو رسیده مبارک مریم جان . خیلی نازه :) - RokhSaare
Hope the baby and mum are well. Congratz. Happy Ied Mubarak =) - zʍıɔ
WoW,Congratulations! - atalmatal from MojiPage
Congrats on the blessed event! Welcome to the world, Ryan - Jazz Baker
Congratulations! - Jim in Real Time
appena nato e già dal dentista? - paolo beneforti
Congrats :) - Maryam Ardakani from FreshFeed
He was delivered by a Blue Man? - paul mooney
Congrats Robert. It's allways a special moment. I still have my child birth in my memory! - Rui
What a happy day! A healthy new Scoble and mom. - Dave Winer
آخي ، بچته ؟؟؟ مبارك باشه تو روز به اين عزيزي به دنيا اومده ، بت نميخوره بچه انقدري داشته باشي شيطون - mohammad
My goodness, congratulations! - DGentry
Congrats! - Ivo Mortani
Congratulations!! and best wishes - Johni Fisher
congrats! - masstrovato
Congratulations! I hope everyone's ok?! - Holger Eilhard
حاجي خانومت ايرانيه جدي ؟؟؟ پس خيلي مباركه ديگه - mohammad
Congratulations, Scoble family! - Bill Scherer
wonderfull - braciolanet from BuddyFeed
Congratulations to you and your family Robert! A very handsome baby boy! Cant wait to see more pictures! - TiffanyCarr
Congratulations, Robert. - motownmutt
Congratulations! - :: Kim Sherrell ::::
congrats :) - £lham
مبارکه :) - خیزران kheyzaran
Congrats! - Roozbeh
Congrats to Robert and Maryam! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
WooHoo! My best to the whole family. I hope Maryam is getting some rest after all that hard work! - Robert Couture
Congrats to you and your fam, Robert :) - LANjackal
Ryan was born when the Berlin Marathon was finishing. Perhaps he'll be a long-distance runner. Congrats. - Carl Jacobsen
Congratulations to you and the wife, Robert! Job well done. I see he is gonna take after his Daddy! ;-0 ,hehe:-) - Duliece
One more congrats won't hurt, right? Thanks for sharing the pics. - Kevin Sablan
Congratulations :) - A35G
Congrats - Exciting & now the fun begins :-) - PXLated
Wishing you and yours the best on this wonderful day! Congratulations! - Steve
Congrats on the RSS feed update :) I hope you've pinged both rsscloud and pubsubhubbahubba ! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Starting today. Sleep will be nothing more than a fond memory. :) Congrats. - Richard
Congrats! - Herb Hernandez from iPhone
Congrats! - YusufOzanTasdemir
Congrats Robert!! - Taehoon Kim
Congratulations! - Thomas Hawk
Congratulations to you both :) - 1x29
Congratulations to all! - malackey
fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - michele ficara
Awe!! Congrats =) - Brodie Beta
Congratulazioni!! ^______^ - Andrea | amnesiak1978
congrats!! - Clarita
Congratulations to your whole family, Robert :-) - Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Welcome Ryan! Congratulations Robert and family! - Tim Probst from iPhone
Congratulations!!! God bless.... - Bob DeMarco
Congrats! - Jason Williams from iPhone
Congratulations Robert, Maryam and Milan! All the best to the four of you. - Eiso Kant
Congratulations :-) - Jalada
Congrats! Enjoy. - Jim Peake
Congrats - BeeLing
Congratulations!! - Paolo Leonardi
Congratulations, Robert and Maryam! - Helen Sventitsky
Congratulations! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Congratulations. - ashish
Congrats - Brian Appleby
oooww wonderfulll :)) - Ucandepik
Well done, my son's name as well. - Robert Kenney
Congratulations - Caleb Scribner
Congrats - Manuel Mas
Congrats! Best wishes to you, Ryan and all your family! - Lenny Post
congrats ^_^ - Furkan Tunalı
Conga Rats! - Michael R. Bernstein
Wonderful! Enjoy! - Alan Morris
Absolutely wonderful. Welcome to the world Ryan! - Loren Heiny from iPhone
Congrats :) - Hasan Al Shehabi
Congratulations to both of you. - Roberto Bonini
OMG Congrats to both of you, he looks healthy and promising. - Jeunelle Foster
Congratulations to everyone! He looks healthy! I am sure you must all be very happy! ;) - Altan Khendup
Congratulations! May your tribe ever increase in happiness, joy, and fulfilment. - trey pennington
Congrats! - Ben Parr
what would be ryan's reaction when he would read this post someday, so many folks who knew dad congratulating him! - testbeta
Congratulations! - Anne Bouey
hiya RSS! - Laura Norvig
Yah!! Congratulations. - Micah Wittman
Congratulations to the whole Scoble family! - WorldofHiglet
Congratulations to the whole family! Enjoy these most precious times. - Marylene Delbourg-Delphis
best wishes to all - Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
congrats Robert and Maryam - Kevin Tunis
Congratulations, Robert! - Sabri Küstür from FreshFeed
Wonderful. Best wishes to Ryan... - Mitchell Tsai
Congratulations to the whole family :) - Chris Saad
Congratulations - Samaneh
Congratulations. cute :) - FFTornado
Congratulations. First picture on twitter! - Cindy Makonin
I just came to make sure you were getting a proper congratulations - Sherrie Belken
Welcome :))) - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
congrats;) - خاتون
Congratulations to the Scobles! - Carlton Prest
Congrats Robert! - Jorge Escobar
congratulations, Robert and Maryam. - Valeria Maltoni
congrats! - Daniel Brusilovsky
WOW - what a miracle - congrats! - Mark Harai
Congratulations Robert & Maryam! - Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Congrats from Italy, Ryan! - Federico Bolsoman from iPhone
Congratulations Robert and sorry for delay, Best wishes - erfan
He is crying: "I want an iPhone". Felicitations! - William Mougayar
May he be blessed throughout his life! God bless you, Robert and Maryam! - Melanie Reed
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! - Greg Ness
congrats :) - Erdinc Çiftçi
Congrats Robert & your family :) - Sampad Swain
what a beautiful little guy! congratulations! rock on! - B.L. Ochman
great day, congrats - imran
Wow congratulations to both you and Maryam you must be so proud :) - David Richardson from Android
Congratulations - Eric Logan
Wow, Congratulations, Robert and Maryam!! Ryan looks beautiful.:-) - Cathryn Hrudicka
Congrats man. That's so awesome. - Give 'Em DBizness
Happy Babbie Day! - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Congrats! - Zachary TG
Congrats! I wish a long and healthy life. - Muammer Okumuş
Robert, you newest addition is too freaking adorable. I hope you and Maryam are doing well. Congratulations! Here's to a long, prosperous future! - Mike Nayyar
Welcome, Ryan - you picked a good family! - Matthew Blaisdell
congrats to you and Maryam! And welcome, RSS! - Joshua Allen from fftogo
congrats!!! Welcome to Ryan - Dario Salvelli
Congratulations to you and Maryam! E benvenuto Ryan! - Marco Fabbri
Congrats! :) - Emmanuel Anumonwo
Congratulations! - mlazopoulou
Such auspicious times... Welcome, Ryan! - Red Label
O HAI, Ryan! Congratulations to Daddy and Mommy, too! - Ladybug Heather
What's Ryan's Twitter address? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod
قدم نو رسیده مبارک!congratulations - Jan Valjan
Congrats, best wishes. :) - Hunt
حوزه جان بیا در گوشش اذان بگو - مـــــــــمد
woohoo! congrats! - Tyson
That is a wonderful moment! All the best to momma, baby and the family! - Mary Gilmour
Congrats Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Garin Kilpatrick
Awesome, Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome to the world Ryan. - Mitch Baldwin
Happy parenting! Congrats! - Natallini
Groovy + one geek on the planet - Yann Ropars
Congrats!!! Robert - Steve Chou
To the proud Papa.....Congratulations!! - Bonnie Foster
Congratulations Team Scoble. Best of good wishes to all of you. - Morrie Johnston
Congrats Robert and family!!! Welcome Ryan :) - buvanesh
congrats Robert! - Joshua Guffey
Congratulations! RS - Sean Kelly
Congrats :D - Emre Misvaklı
Congratulations. he's so cute :) - Armando Grati
Beautiful! - Ryan Sholin
Congratulations - Kreg Steppe
Congratulations! - Gordon Saunders
Congratulations! - موسوی Hamid Reza میر
Congrats Robert....How amny more before you have your baseball team :-) - Alex Marrow
Seriously, Best whishes.............God Bless...... - Alex Marrow
Mazal Tov! - Raanan Avidor
All the best! Fun Times!!!! - Jim Turner
congrads now the fun starts, beautiful baby - Debra Moore
congrads ! - ★ Soner Gönül
Congrats and Best Wishes! - Tracy Benham
Looks like the baby's first trip to the dentist - Steve Borgman
Welcome, Ryan! Congrats, Robert! - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Robert Scoble
Hurry up and wait:
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They have me waiting outside while they prepare to surgically deliver Ryan Soroush Scoble. His life should start within minutes. I wonder what he will be like? What technologies will he see in his lifetime? - Robert Scoble from email
still with my premature congrads, and the techs will be what we cant imagine, :o - chaz2b
sending well wishes.... - Denverken
Is this the first time you've disclosed his name? Best to mother and child. Good health to all! - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
I have a feeling it's gonna be a smooth ride for Ryan tonight - Brian Hendrickson
Ah! Wonderful times that pass so fast! Following from South Africa! Our thoughts are with you and your family! - Andre
best wishes to mom and Ryan - Amit Nangare
shouldn't be long now and he'll be there in your arms :-) - Jodi Church
Three boys. Cool. - Victor Panlilio
Was just sharing this amazing experience with my family. Best wishes to all of you from India! :) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Best wishes to you and your family. - Henry
Best wishes... - esaarem
Robert - best wishes - imagine the world and technologies Ryan will see in his life, likely into the 22nd century! - Shannon Clark
Any second now... - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Maryam is sleeping through it. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Anticipation is making you wait ... - RetiredTeacherD
best wishes - Conformist / Unforgiven
Best wishes to you, your wife and little baby Ryan! - Laura Zickus
Exciting - sending positive thoughts. - Mike Doeff
How wonderful :D Best wishes - Harrison Powers
Congratulations and Sweet wishes ! - Honey
Brian Hendrickson
Re: I need a Domain Name Server with a REST interface (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"This is working pretty well, send me an e-mail if you'd like to try it out. brian@megapump.com The source code is published on github: http://github.com/voitto... #################### ## creating a zone record #################### POST vars --------------- name = "george" record = "TXT" feedname = "george.loose.ly" key = md5( subdomain.record.value.pass ) where period concatenates values of these post vars and "pass" contains password value API endpoint ------------------------------ http://cloud.twitteronia.com/api... New zone record ------------------------------ | 14 | 9 | george | TXT | | 0 | 86400 | george.loose.ly | #################### ## updating the feedname #################### POST vars --------------- name = "george" record = "TXT" feedname = "george.twitteronia.com" key = md5( subdomain.record.value.pass ) where period concatenates values of these post vars and "pass" contains password value API endpoint ------------------------------..." - Brian Hendrickson
Mark Trapp
Eeeeee. Finally got FriendFeed's OAuth working from Drupal.
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OAuth has got to be one of the most tedious specs I've worked with. Way too many exchanges. - Mark Trapp
hey nice job! - Brian Hendrickson
Meryn Stol
Share Lists of Twitter Users | TweepML - http://tweepml.org/#
Share Lists of Twitter Users | TweepML
"TweepML is an extensible, open standard format that allows you to manage and share groups of Twitter users." - Meryn Stol from Bookmarklet
This is basically just an extension to OPML. Not sure why it's necessary when OPML more or less seems sufficient? - Chris Messina
Chris, can you make OPML say that a url points to a Twitter user? I thought OPML was just for pointing to feeds. Pointing to a feed (together with a free-text title) is quite a bit different than saying: Hey, here's a Twitter user you can subscribe to, or go talk to, or analyze with Twitter Grader or a plethora of other tools. I think that for OPML to be a replacement for this, I think... more... - Meryn Stol
There's an RSS feed for each Twitter user. For example, my tweets can be found through http://twitter.com/statuse... - Scott of Two Countries
I dislike the TweepML spec because it uses "screen_name" as the primary identifier (in the simplest case). Screen names are not fixed, anybody can change theirs to any unused one at any time, and the "follow" remains. While you can put the ID in there, it's optional, which is bad. Using the RSS feed gives you the internal Twitter ID number, which never changes, and with that feed, you... more... - Otto
Otto, I don't think an OPML document - at this moment - can carry the semantics of pointing to Twitter users in particular (as opposed to pointing to any kind of feed or web page). So for automated processing - for example, support by web browsers! - OPML currently does not suffice. Or we would need to rely on "URL sniffing". Then browsers would need to hardcode something like the... more... - Meryn Stol
One other possible - and promising - direction would be to introduce a HTML microformat to indicate a link to a Twitter user. Something like <a href="http://twitter.com/meryn" rel="twitteruser">meryn</a>. This could be picked up by browser plugins. No need for a separate TweepML page then. - Meryn Stol
:confused: I don't understand the issue here. If the feed starts with twitter.com then it's a twitter feed. You don't need special semantics to identify a twitter user specifically. That's completely unnecessary and kinda silly. Same goes for the microformat, why require people to add all this extra crap just to prevent, literally, one line of parsing code? - Otto
My point is that it's utterly pointless to invent a new format when an old one fits just fine. Especially if your purpose in the new format is to make your coding.. well.. not any easier. How is it harder to recognize twitter.com than having to look for extra tags or examine the content of the rel attribute? Short answer: It's not. A "browser plugin" could just as easily read the bare... more... - Otto
Now I thought about it a little more, the obvious use case for a tweepml file is simply to open it with a Twitter client which supports the file format. So it's not so much a matter of browser support, it's a matter of Twitter client support. This special file format makes a lot of sense. OPML is too generic. - Meryn Stol
Would be cool as well if Twitter itself would start to support TweepML format for its "following" and "followed by" pages. - Meryn Stol
The Twitter ID number should be the primary identifier, with the Username provided as an optional additional field. Then both could be read directly by a client program, without additional Twitter web scraping or API calls, which would be more convenient than OPML, currently the best compromise. - Mike Chelen
I'm not sure what the issue is that OPML doesn't address directly. We had twitter user lists and browsable / drill-down-able packages of users a few years ago (using just OPML). I'll see if I can dig up an example. - mikepk
Bah drives me crazy again. One of the services we shut down when I left. The Grazr Twitter Reader API would let you chose a user, and get a package of their followed list that would let you drill down through it. OPML does a lot more than people realize (inclusion is a really neat concept people never quite 'got') - mikepk
plus OPML can easily be extended with a namespace to add the user ID if that was really needed (without requiring breaking OPML or adding a new spec) - mikepk
I think the main point that we always tried to do with OPML was to build on a base spec. That way, even with namespace extensions, the core list would still work in things like feed readers (for pulling in the feeds) and other OPML aware applications. Applications that understood the additional namespace could add additional functionality. The need to always create new specs is damaging in a lot of ways when the old ones can get the job done. - mikepk
mikepk: could someone do that then? the situation that occurs is having a list of Twitter usernames, it is useful to find and save their ID numbers, in case of username change. right now that is done often with basic CSV, or hacking the username into the OPML feed title - Mike Chelen
Twitter already supports XFN by linking to someone's friends using rel-contact. They also markup the contact list in microformats. I suppose getting a full list of someone's friends is currently challenging, but I guess in general I question the creation of new formats where others exist (though, starting with OPML seems fine). - Chris Messina
I think OPML + a clean namespace would solve this problem 100% and still maintain compaitibility with OPML aware apps (like feed readers). Unfortunately, after I left Grazr, we shut down all the advanced feed applications we had (sniff), so the Twitter Reader no longer works. That would have been a good example. - mikepk
So assuming we have a namespace of "supertwit" you could create outline nodes that look like this: <outline supertwit:userid="IDNUM" text="mikepk" type="rss" xmlUrl="http://twitter.com/statuse..." htmlUrl="http://twitter.com/mikepk" /> - mikepk
I still think a new format (with a new mime-type) is by far the easiest way to get a list of Twitter users loaded into a Twiter client like Tweetdeck. Otherwise, all OPML clients (what are OPML desktop clients anyway? I don't know any?) should support either Twitter natively, or support forwarding the mentioned Twitter users to a user-configured Twitter client. That just doesn't make sense. - Meryn Stol
I kinda think that you don't quite understand the whole purpose of OPML in specific, and XML in general. OPML is designed to be able to exchange lists of feeds between feed readers. If you want to extend it with twitter specific extensions, then you could do that with a namespace. No existing OPML capable clients would have to be modified to support your extensions, that's the whole... more... - Otto
Otto, I do understand both OPML and the concept of namespaces. Can you please explain to me how I'd ever get Firefox to push Twitter-specific data inside an OPML file to Tweetdeck? Or how would you have in mind that I'd get Twitter usernames communicated to a Twitter client otherwise? Also, Tweepml is not my spec. Why would you think so? I just saw it, thought it was a great initiative, and shared it here. I'm just defending a great idea. - Meryn Stol
Can you explain how you'd ever get Firefox to push OPML to anything, period? If you can do that, then I'll explain how you can add support for additional namespaces. Fact is that you're going to have to write the code to generate the ML file anyway. The choice of format is not a software support issue, it's a compatibility issue. By using straight OPML with add-ons, you instantly have... more... - Otto
Otto, you're *really* missing my point of the usefulness of specific mime-types... Do you know why mime-types were invented? They are a crucial element of HTTP. It's part of what makes the protocol so powerful. - Meryn Stol
I understand MIME types, but you don't need a whole new incompatible file format to switch to a different MIME type. - Otto
Ok so you propose serving OPML with a more specific mime-type? E.g. not text/x-opml but something more specific? What about text/x-opml-tweeps? Something like that? - Meryn Stol
All desktop feed readers will consume OPML, as will outliners (but that's a niche-y kind of thing). There are also lots of feed meta-tools that use OPML, as grazr once did. By using OPML with a namespace, you get the benefit of your format being immediately useful to a very large set of applications, otherwise you have to hope people implement your unique spec. Having a unique mime type doesn't seem to bring enough benefit to overshadow those points IMHO. You clearly disagree :) - mikepk
I'm generally of the opinion that MIME type doesn't make quite the difference you think it does. Format is much more important. People can make their browser send to their app of choice manually, all having a MIME type standard does is to let apps tell the browser, in advance, that they can deal with that type. On the whole, MIME type is a platonic ideal, it doesn't have much real-world application that matters. - Otto
additionally, nothing says you can't define a new mime type to serve the opml as, if you *really* wanted to. - mikepk
I really don't understand the resistance to this nice little spec... I think it's about on the level of KML. Just *useful*. Not world changing, but nice for exchange of twitter usernames just like KML is nice for interchanging geographical data. - Meryn Stol
Personal opinion I guess. There's a sliding scale between using existing formats that makes the data available and useful to all the applications that already understand that format, and needing something truly unique to represent your data but by definition making it a highly niche format that will only be useful in a handful of applications (if they implement it). The more general you... more... - mikepk
Agree that an opml extension would be best, but the TweepML folks have built something pretty neat and it looks like it could be a fun and useful tool - Brian Hendrickson
Meryn: There's nothing wrong with the *idea* of it, I'd just prefer it if they used a format that would already work with all my existing software. OPML is well known and understood and supported. Libraries already exist for it. Adding it to twitter client programs would be trivial. This format, OTOH, is not supported by anything I use, and therefore is useless to me. - Otto
Example: I can't take a TweepML file and import it into my Google Reader. If they used an OPML extension, I could import it there and instantly get all my followers as feeds. - Otto
Best solution would be to serve the information in both OPML (text/x-opml) and in Tweepml (whatever the proposed mime-type is). Then the user can both use generic tools, and have it automatically forwared to their Twitter client of choice. But I personally doubt many people want to add Twitter users to their feed reader, or any other generic RSS tool. Twitter is a world in itself. A... more... - Meryn Stol
Just the same, some people like to consume geo-data through a GeoRSS element embedded into feeds. Others like to consume it through KML files. But a KML file can be configured to always open in Google Earth. It wouldn't make sense to let a browser forward all rss feeds to Google Earth. - Meryn Stol
On the contrary, I used that specific example for a reason: a *lot* of people have been doing exactly that lately, exporting their Twitter feeds into Google Reader. Dave Winer wrote a tool to do exactly that: http://rsscloud.org/twitter... and several people commented on it and have been using it. Also see http://www.google.com/search... - Otto
otto, I must say that I don't have stats handy, but I think that people using Google Reader for Twitter feeds really represent a niche. In any case, I expect dedicated Twitter clients (or at least, clients that go beyond the feed, taking "users" or "people" as their starting point) to win handsomely in the future shoot-out. "Feeds" do have their place, and will always have, but the people-oriented web is rising fast. - Meryn Stol
It's not a niche, it's being actively done by some rather big names in the biz. Might want to read the comments here as well: http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Otto
Just to be clear, I think Dave Winer lives in quite a bubble. He's not representative of most users. not even the typical early adopter. I'd be wary if I found myself to be referring to one particular old guy from the valley too much. - Meryn Stol
That doesn't mean I don't want to take OPML (or anything else) away from you, or anyone else. It's just that for other users, other solutions - like dedicated formats to talk about Twitter users, or tweets, or retweets) might be very appropriate. There are enough Twitter clients out their to warrant development of standard exchange formats. - Meryn Stol
I don't disagree with you on the need for a format to do this sort of thing... I disagree on the need for a custom format that doesn't work with anything else, especially when it verges on trivial to simply add what you need into OPML. Furthermore, the existing OPML created by that tool already gives you all the necessary information to transmit lists of Twitter users. No other data is really *required*. If I was a Twitter client developer, I'd program support for the OPML idea first, not for this format. - Otto
At least we need a new mime-type to make it carry the *semantics* of point to a Twitter user. How else could a browser know to what app to forward a downloaded file to? I don't see a browser actually "sniffing" inside an OPML file to see if it contains "twitter.com/" as a viable solution. - Meryn Stol
Why do you need the browser to know where to send the file? Are you incapable of picking your Twitter client from a list? Furthermore, nobody really uses only one Twitter client, which one gets the data in your MIME type scenario? - Otto
Well ask some regular internet users if they're happy that their KML files open in Google Earth. I expect they'll answer affirmative. - Meryn Stol
Many internet users like to open the KML files in Google Maps, actually, since it supports them too. Also, KML is a special use case, since location data like that actually does not fit into OPML or any other existing format. But take it as an example: If you were going to develop something that fit into KML, would you make a new, incompatible, format for it? - Otto
Well you can probably bind the mime-type to Google Maps too... The point is that it's useful to be explicit about what data ends up where, even if you use - say - three "Geo" clients (GMaps, GEarth, MSN Earth) and three Twitter clients, at least you only have to choose from a group of three. - Meryn Stol
Do you have a program on your machine that supports the OPML mime type now, other than perhaps a single feed reader? Is it really so hard to pick a twitter client from a list of a twitter client and a feed reader? - Otto
Not going to argue anymore... This is typical - unproductive- arguing. Let's look back at this thread a few months later from now. - Meryn Stol
My point is that OPML is specifically designed for this. There's nothing special about a Twitter user's feed. It's just another form of blog, with very small posts. The RSS feed contains those posts. And an OPML contains a list of those feeds. QED. - Otto
Meryn, don't think of this as an attack on you. I left it as we can 'agree to disagree' but I understand the negative reaction to another spec. It may seem harmless to create a unique spec for every slight variation of data format, but it makes developers lives worse, throws out any 'baked in' experience with existing specs, and fractures data making it less useful overall. Then again, you never know what specs actually get implemented vs. not implemented so only time will tell if this gets used or not. - mikepk
Mike, I think that I've been mostly arguing for introducing another mime-type. I don't care much what particular serialization format is used in the end. But browsers do need to know if they're receiving information about Twitter users or just regular feeds. There's a big difference in semantics there. You can do many things with Twitter users which you can't do with feeds. E.g. You... more... - Meryn Stol
I already said that another solution would be to introduce an "OPML switchboard" which would intelligently handle different kind of links inside an OPML file (much the same as a browser really, based on mime-types or pseudo mime-types appearing inside each OPML entry). But I think that with simply using microformats inside HTML we would be much closer to a solution then. Such a "switchboard" could be implemented pretty fast with a Firefox plugin I suppose. - Meryn Stol
If you have a Twitter users feed address, then you can find out all you ever want or need to know about the Twitter user. Here's my Twitter feed: http://twitter.com/statuse... The "link" tag inside the "channel" contains my current twitter url (and by extension, my username). With that info, you can do anything you like. Furthermore, my username can change. That feed URL will never change, no matter what I change my username to. - Otto
Furthermore, if you examine the Twitter API, it will take either ID numbers or usernames for all identification fields. The ID number is right there in the feed link itself, so you can get any info you want from the API without even retrieving the feed. If you know my ID is 7016582 (from the feed url) then you can retrieve http://twitter.com/users... to see everything about me. - Otto
Meryn, there's a happy medium here too. All of these formats are just XML, it's up to the server to serve it as a particular mime type. You could easily define a new xml mime-type for the twitter user bundle and just have the server use it. I'd have to do some research but off the top of my head I don't know of any cases where a namespace extension to a format is served as a new mime-type, but I can't think of any reason why not. Does GeoRSS have a mimetype. I'd have to look. - mikepk
No, GeoRSS is not a MIME type, it's an extension that you can put in RSS2 (application/rss+xml), ATOM (application/atom+xml) or RSS1 (application/rdf+xml). Most generators I've seen use one of those or sometimes just application/xml. The whole thing about MIME types is overblown anyway. They're just not that darned useful in real world applications. Sure, they're fine to hook a format... more... - Otto
But again, if it's not a big deal, and there's some utility for twitter clients, why not serve it as a new mime type? MIME is extensible too (just have to look up the mechanism). That gets the best of both worlds, standard spec + functionality for desktop stuff if it's warranted. - mikepk
The correct mime type for OPML is either text/xml or text/x-opml. Technically, that last one should be text/x-opml+xml to identify it as an XML document, but Radio Userland used text/x-opml back in the day and it stuck. Anyway, you could easily just say text/x-whatever+xml if you really wanted to target twitter clients, but that has the same compatibility issues as a new format. Your... more... - Otto
My main concern is simply that I don't see how this TweepML spec actually adds anything that you can't do with OPML, with no extensions. A twitter feed *is* the user. There's no more information that I really need. I can grab the ID number from the feed URL and directly follow that user. One Twitter API call. Nothing more is necessary. I don't need the username at all to follow a user or even to see his tweets. ID's and usernames are 100% interchangable, everywhere. - Otto
Note: TweepML doesn't define a MIME type, they're returning their data as text/xml. - Otto
Otto, then the standard is more or less worthless in its current incarnation. No mime-type means no semantics. - Meryn Stol
Brian Hendrickson
Re: I need a Domain Name Server with a REST interface (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"I made a REST API like this, you can find the documentation at http://cloud.twitteronia.com - would love to have feedback here on whether it works. Thanks! -- Brian" - Brian Hendrickson
Kol Tregaskes
Roger Federer best point in tennis history. US Open Semi final 2009 HQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Roger Federer best point in tennis history. US Open Semi final 2009 HQ
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Good shot. - Kol Tregaskes
You can try this in practice all day long and never succeed and he does it against a difficult opponent, in the semi-final of a grand-slam ,,, hat's off! - Rene Wirtz
I remember first seeing a "tweener" (between the legs shot) hit by Gabriela Sabatini (the "sabatweeny") but it's very rare that you see someone hit a [winner] with that shot - a "twinner" :-) - Brian Hendrickson
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