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Brian Roy › Comments
Re: Social Media ROI – The Believers and Non-Believers - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"I actually believe it is more complex. Most companies (in my experience) are looking for guidance and help with ROI. It is the Social Media practitioners (i.e., experts) who suggest that social media activities need not be held to an ROI that trouble me. My take is that there are two things involved: 1) They don't want to be held accountable for specific measures of success. 2) They want Social Media to "fundamentally change how companies do business" - which, for them, impies that they should do it regardless of ROI."
- Brian Roy
Re: Social Media ROI – The Believers and Non-Believers - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"KD - I was very careful in my post to call out that I have no in depth knowledge of your position "KD Paine – of whom I have no previous knowledge – is one of the believers (at least for the purposes of this post)." This post was a response to those who throw up their hands and say either we shouldn't have to ROI Social Media or that it can't be done. I certainly was not suggesting you fell into that category."
- Brian Roy
Re: Social Media ROI – The Believers and Non-Believers - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"As you point out (and as I did a previous post) you have got to know what outcome you are trying to achieve. Social Media is extremely measurable - and ROI shouldn't be a problem at all. What I'm reacting to is the "well, it isn't really important that we are able to ROI this... you should just do it because it worked for...""
- Brian Roy
50% of US engineering students drop out - Why? - http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_nex...
ashish, Michael R. Bernstein, Zahra HB and 35 other people liked this
I am part of the 50% who don't drop out!
- Kevin Mohr
I didn't drop out but here is part of my experience in this post from years ago. It was discouraging to hear the professors talk. Needless to say i don't code. :-) http://www.altamirano.org/marketi...
- Antonio Altamirano
Thankfully I'm in the other 50%, but I can see why many would change their major or drop out. I saw it first hand where many 1st and 2nd year Mechanical Engineering students changed their majors to something 'easier'. The most common reason was difficulty with the required advanced Math courses. Calculus being the road block for many.
- Jeff P. Henderson
If I were entering college now, I would try to go to Olin. I really like their approach.
- Paul Buchheit
nice post, I'm looking for the number of engineers (or per thousand capita ratio) graduating in Greece (or greeks graduating around the world)
- George Tziralis
Many of Computer Science professors at Stanford were luminaries in their fields, but weren't very good at engaging students in the subject matter. Brilliant researchers don't always make the best teachers. I think this contributed a lot to the dropout rate.
- Jess Lee
How does this compare to drop-out rate for all US college students? And does "drop out" mean "of college entirely" or "take a break then come back" or "and choose another major"? The discussion may be lusty but I really don't like discussions that start on a figure w/ no bother to compare it to anything else, or link to info about how it's calculated.
- Wade Dorrell
In CA we have two types of public universities. The UC schools require the professors to do research, where as the State University schools do not. I think the State University schools are much better for undergrad tech education as you get much more attention from your professors.
- Jeff P. Henderson
The UC Berkeley College of Engineering started the Center For Entrepreneurship and Technology http://cet.berkeley.edu to address some of the issues Dodge talks about.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Engineering is hard and requires above-average intelligence. Think about it this way: Statistics tells us that probably 50% of people will be below-average. Wouldn't you want those 50% of the students to drop out before actually becoming an engineer? MIT just doesn't admit that half of the population in the first place, but most schools don't have that luxury.
- Gabe
People have a lot of options for (a) careers (b) money (c) power (d) image (e) attracting mates in the US, compared to China/India. Engineers are not valued very highly in the US compared to businesspeople, doctors, and lawyers.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Gabe: You would think that all the people that go to study Computer Sciences or seek other Engineering degrees are above the 50% average to begin with.
- Amit Morson
somestimes it's a scoail or maturity thing - was for me. I get by. Wished I finished.
- Alan Wilensky
from Alert Thingy
It's because of the fact that people with higher standards of living pursue less demanding challenges offering similar ROI (I = investment+involvement). That's why there's so many non-US students (especially from lower income countries) in engineering and why they're much less inclined to fail.
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
Engineering sucks. I think there's a point where any engineering student realizes that even with a degree they're looking at a pretty mediocre salary working in a really boring job. Add this to the difficult coursework and boring courses, well, engineers are good at math. It adds up to being a raw deal. That being said, if you get into engineering at Stanford or UC Berkley, your ROI would look a lot better then mine. I'm sure a large number of engineering students consider dropping out, even after Calculus.
- Will Higgins™
All I can do is nod. For a couple of years, not a day when by when I didn't consider jumping ship, for all the reasons commenters here have mentioned: long hours, heavy workload, fickle job market, salary barely comparable with what I could expect with a business or law degree. But here I am, a month away from (finally!) finishing my EE degree, and I couldn't be happier.
- Derrick Burns
Continued from above: Basically, I think so many give up because they were looking to get something out of being an engineer: money, prestige, etc. But it's simply too great a commitment on several levels. You really have to pursue engineering because it's something you want to do, something you care about.
- Derrick Burns
I dropped out because Chemical Engineering was not what I was expecting. I wanted more Chemistry, less Math. I switched to IT Management and found it much more interesting. Mind you, I'm Canadian.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I remember having a crisis in my final year of Electrical/Computer Engineering. Dropping out was a non-option, but I did consider completely abandoning 3.5 years of engineering study to switch fields and schools during my senior year. In hindsight, I didn't understand what engineers really did. My vision at the time was closer to industrial or product design than engineering. I had to take it on faith in my first two years that I was on a path to do what I was envisioning.
- Kelly Norton
I suspect that more than 50% (even at good schools like GATech, I have friends who have done this) are in the wrong field. Many of my friends went into programming because they enjoyed computers and I've told them they would hate it because they don't like math. They don't listen. :)
- mjc
still others go into engineering due to parental expectation, which I find ridiculous, but understandable
- mjc
Amit: one of the properties of being in the lower 50% is not knowing that you're in the lower 50%. That means many of the applicants do not know they are unqualified.
- Gabe
Extensive aptitude/personality testing could fix this
- Aaron Eaton
I actually sit on an advisory board for ASU (arizona state) Poly - I can tell you that what I see is students becoming disillusioned by all the stuff they have to learn before they can go out and create something "cool". The challenge is keeping them engaged through the pre-reqs/early coursework. BTW - IMHO the problem with "drop out and learn X" is that they've intentionally skipped the fundamentals that make good engineers. Just because you can code doesn't mean you can engineer... two different things.
- Brian Roy
Is Computer Science part of engineering? Because it didn't take much training in Computer Science for me to start doing cool stuff. I wrote my first game and posted it onto the internet my freshman year (Core Wars). By my Junior year, I had designed a programming language and integrated in it into a MUD. Pengtoh had contributed to Linux by his sophomore year. On the other hand, I always flunked electrical engineering classes, and couldn't stomach math past linear algebra.
- Piaw Na
I switch from Engineering to a Computer Science degree. Apart from the fact that I wanted to program, there were two reasons. 1) The load was very high (it was close to 40 contact hours/week in first year). 2) The maths was hard - I'm ok at math, but combined with the high load I found I struggled when I wasn't too interested in it.
- Nick Lothian
"the US should staple a Green Card to every foreign student's engineering diploma and encourage them to stay in the USA."
- Clare Dibble
Same as Nick here. Dropped out due to difficulty and lack of passion for the field. Went back later to finish a BS in Computer Information Systems.
- Bill Sanders
I wonder what percentage of medical school students drop out. Engineering is a hard discipline, if you want to be a web dev or a study IT or "new media" instead. Making engineering "softer" because today's students don't like to work hard and expect results instantly will just create generations of mediocre engineers and will not make the US more of an engineering power.
- Kevin Goldsmith
from twhirl
engineers are boring and dry, pay is low, classes are full of non-social ppl. (and almost no girls). Why not study finance, or something, girls and pay is much better.
- imran
Engineering is fun! The big thing is that school's curriculums are frequently irrelevant. For instance, a lot of CS majors require irrelevant Math or Physics not because it's a requirement to do good software (they aren't), but because those classes serve as weeders. The result is, for instance, we get lots of CS majors who can't communicate or string a sentence together. If we rearranged the CS major so that we didn't impose a stupid requirement, we'd get a bigger diversity of candidates and less dropout.
- Piaw Na
Engineering is the best!!!! and for those who says it sucks or that the pay is not good (or that we are boring and dry), its probably because you are in that 50% of retards that dropped out of it. No other profession gets paid as much as an engineer right after graduation, and there is usually more demand for engineers than for anything else. I just think people are too lazy to even try anymore. I dont know why, even graduate school is fun in engineering. Aerospace is the best!!!!!
- Mike hawk
life in a conceptual box is the result .. content with that, you will stay with it .. not content, universes open up
- Gregory Lent
life in a conceptual box? do you even know what you are saying? universes open up when you quit engineering? If only you were to see the world through the eyes of en engineer, we see everything from several different perspectives, not just that of people like you. If anything, engineering has really opened up the world for me as it really is. Stop making those type of remarks. Instead get back to engineering school so you can see what it feels like.
- Mike hawk
I think I know the boxes Gregory is talking about from some of his other comments. Whether you've gone to engineering school is orthogonal to whether you can get outside of them. So it's pretty much irrelevant to this thread.
- Ruchira S. Datta
I dropped out the day I learned it had nothing to do with driving a train. Now I'm stuck with this silly hat and overalls :(
- Christopher Harley
At least, those 50% tried.
- ashish
I bet you the pre-med numbers are similar, but I'm not sure universities necessarily track undergrads who aspire to go to med school. In general, how many freshmen actually stick with the major they pick when they start college?
- Victor Ganata
Re: A Simple Prescription for Social Media ROI - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"Thanks Jim - Proximate Cause is an important concept for formulation of ROI and is already widely used and accepted in enterprises. As importantly, folks have to stop trying to ROI on metrics that do not have a direct and hard value. That dog just won't hunt."
- Brian Roy
Re: Social Media Metrics Mean Nothing - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"In some ways we can draw parallels between our current "political process" and Social Media metrics. Sadly politics has become a game of sentiment where "winning" is getting elected over and over again. In effect, reelection is the outcome metric - so why are we surprised when they fail to consider silly things like "make the country better" or "solve important problems" in favor of "increase my contributions" and "energize my base". Just like I'd expect any company that ran itself that way to have some pretty sizable issues... I expect the same for the country until we actually begin holding our elected representatives accountable to some rational outcome metrics."
- Brian Roy
AT&T’s plans to improve network reliability and what that means for you - http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...
Somebody tell me how this isn't bait and switch - buy an iPhone, sign a contract and get UNLIMITED 3G data... oh wait, you are using it too much... you need to pay MORE.
- Brian Roy
Re: Social Media to be Adopted as an Enterprise Solution in 2010 - http://www.stevengroves.com/2009...
"Not sure I agree with the title... I'm of the opinion that 2010 is the year of measurement, meaning and metrics. Only after we have those things can we truly begin to allow enterprises to formulate ROI, outcome metrics and sustainable initiatives for using Social Media to improve their CORE METRICS (sales, revenue, profit, etc). You said "... all the while monitoring the things that can be monitored, applying a return-on-investment metric to the data and thus being able to manage what kind of incremental return they can create..." - that is the money phrase and the real point. Less anecdotes, more metrics."
- Brian Roy
Re: I’m glad I’m not President Obama - http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009...
"Not everything CAN OR SHOULD happen in real time. Rome wasn't built (or sacked) in a day... Settle down people... there are no straight lines, instant gratification or easy & fast solutions."
- Brian Roy
What is your FF Comments/Likes Ratio? (Comments divided by Likes to 2nd decimal place - as of now) - http://flickr.com/photos...
Christopher Harley, shâhin, mona and 101 other people liked this
1.05 (670/633)
- Micah Wittman
from Bookmarklet
Can you remind me again where to find those stats?
- Brian Johns
Brian, go to "Me" link (http://friendfeed.com/brianjo...) which defaults to the Feed tab. Look at the sidebar on the right, below Discussion.
- Micah Wittman
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.79
- Brian Roy
0.77
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
0.67
- Nine
0.77
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
0.76
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
1.39.
- Rochelle
1.80
- Brian Sullivan
1.61 - I only 'like' when I want to throw my support behind a topic but don't have anything constructive to add.
- Bjorn Stromberg
1.12
- LogEx
1.41
- WorldofHiglet
5.08 (3181/626) !
- ◄ani625Ξ
2.41
- William Harryman
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren -- Designated Driver
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@Cee Bee I think you meant 0.62
- ◄ani625Ξ
1.27 (902/705)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
yes, thanks for the correction. lindsay, you're making me feel bad. lol
- Cee Bee
0.8576, I only like mostly when I'm going to comment
- Molly, New Ears :P
1.55 endlessly repeating. This Like/Comment included.
- Dana D
before this comment: .69 I kid you not.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
CSV_A: 1.05,0.75,1.44,0.81,3.74,0.79,0.77,0.67,0.77,0.76,1.39,1.8,1.61,1.12,0.141,5.08,2.41,0.66,.39,0.62,.62,1.27,0.8576,1.551,0.69
- Micah Wittman
1.83
- Grant Bierman
I tend to like allot of photos which really don't need comments.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.37 1002/2708
- Michael Fidler
this is what scobes walls would like if he didnt have FF
- sean percival
I haven't seen Marc Canter's fabled fence (just heard about it), but I imagine this but on wood pickets :)
- Micah Wittman
This week: 2.48 (1162:467) but this is not the norm, my likes usually match or are higher than comments, overall: 0.95 (14228:14846).
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks Michael, Kol! I'll recalculate average/median when we build up some more data points here.
- Micah Wittman
1.03 748/723
- Keith - @tsudo
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
*bump*
- Micah Wittman
0.51
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Thanks, Mark!
- Micah Wittman
Thanks Spidra!
- Micah Wittman
0.95 (1520/1604) - it's 2+ months later, and my ratio flipped (more Likes by .05)
- Micah Wittman
.7 (1204/1724) - before this comment at least.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thanks, Rachel!
- Micah Wittman
3.46 (3665/1057) before this comment and like.
- Kevin Fox
Thanks, Kevin. 3+ is quite the comment on your commenting activities :)
- Micah Wittman
I've got stuff to say.
- Kevin Fox
3.98 (900/226)
- Richard Lawler
1.02 (3538/3484) for sofarsofarshaun
- Micah Wittman
.34 (600/1747, not counting this comment)
- Michael Hocter
Thank you, Siavash and Michael
- Micah Wittman
.52 overall, but .68 this week.
- Rebecca
Nice, thanks Rebecca.
- Micah Wittman
1.31
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
0.56
- imabonehead
Rah and imabonehead - rock on! (Richard too!)
- Micah Wittman
0.16
- Anne Bouey
1.39
- jcunwired
4.62 (287/62) -- Yikes! I'm chatty.
- Ted Roden
Thank you kindly, Anne, jcunwired and Ted.
- Micah Wittman
2.63
- Bryce Roney
Thanks for joining in, Bryce.
- Micah Wittman
.15 all time, .13 this week.
- Alix Whitmire
.52
- David HC Soul
Thank you, Alix and David! (and Alix, you're tied with Siavash for the Highest Like ratio. Wow).
- Micah Wittman
2.94
- j1m
Thank you, j1m. Ok, I'm gonna roll this up into a csv and call it a night.
- Micah Wittman
CSV_B: 0.95,0.7,3.46,3.98,1.02,0.15,0.34,0.52,1.31,0.56,0.16,1.39,4.62,2.63,0.15,0.52,2.94
- Micah Wittman
this week = 0.45%, alltime = 6.43%
- chaz2b
CSV_B Mean: 1.49 (previous mean for CVS_A: 1.27)
- Micah Wittman
Of course the numbers can easily lie, but I'm gonna say it anyway: "We're getting more conversational, people!"
- Micah Wittman
0.49 (493/988)
- Bluesun 2600
816 / 2502 = 0.326139089 overall | 50 / 233 = 0.214592275 this week I like much more than I comment. (maths via google)
- Chris Loft
3026/5013 = 0.6036
- Roger Chen
0.107 probably the lowest here
- Nicholas James
chaz2b, Bluesun 2600, Roger, Nicholas — thank you!
- Micah Wittman
.76
- jamar78
5.25 but I don't know what this *means, yet. maybe I'm just stingy with my "likes" compared to others?
- Marg Uerite
Thanks jamar78 and Marg!
- Micah Wittman
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
*bump*
- Micah Wittman
1.26 (2965/2346)
- Micah Wittman
1.37
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
1.74
- ♥patricia♥
Thanks, Glen and pea!
- Micah Wittman
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
.38
- Ryan Dadey
Ryan, I have to say, that's one high caliber ratio ;)
- Micah Wittman
An update it's .44 which is an improvement from .36
- Michael Fidler
2.00
- Anthony Citrano
0.97
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
1.5 exactly
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
2.94 1040/354 I have likes set to post to twitter automatically, so I'm careful with them. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
0.85
- Steven Perez
0.73 up from 0.66 on Jan 08
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
0.37 for the week past, 0.45 on the whole.
- Parth Awasthi
Michael, Anthony, Ahsan, guruvan Steven, sıɹɥɔ and Parth - thanks for dropping in your stats!
- Micah Wittman
5.81 i'm not using it as does everyone else here. that is fer sure.
- Marg Uerite
But remember, the comment counts also includes comments imported from other services.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan, huh, I'd never considered that.
- Micah Wittman
17942/30571=.59
- Alex Scoble
Alex, thank you, sir.
- Micah Wittman
ALmost 2:1 exactly.
- Amani
Much obliged, Amani.
- Micah Wittman
3062/5777 you do the maths.
- Will Higgins™
.53 (3062/5777) for Will Higgins #math-on-demand-services
- Micah Wittman
Thank you, amin/gnu
- Micah Wittman
2671/12333=.21
- Darren Heydon
7.16
- Ken Sheppardson
*bump* (SEE ALSO http://friendfeed.com/jungleg... )
- Micah Wittman
1.45 (4374/3026)
- Micah Wittman
1.73
- Aron Michalski
0.92 now. I think the movie reviews have been getting me closer to a 1 to 1 ratio.
- Steven Perez
0.77
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Steven, yep, you were a 0.85 in April.
- Micah Wittman
2.10 now ...
- Amani
0.97 now.
- Eric Johnson
Amani, so your comments have climbed a bit.
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Eric.
- Micah Wittman
Probably, just chattier then :)
- Micah Wittman
I'm down from 7.16 to 6.94 :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, the FCC may be interested to explore how your "I'm down" may be offensively self-deprecating ;)
- Micah Wittman
.56 eeep, must try harder
- Threepwood
4.52. I don't bother to like things I've commented on, since commenting already flags it as interesting.
- Andy Bakun
0.46 (1698/3638)
- Glenn Slaven
Threepwood, Andy, Glenn - thanks (Andy, that's my mo too; then I'll Like if it warrants a "double vote").
- Micah Wittman
1.31 (4,471/3,401)
- Karoli
Thanks, Karoli. And the both of us have a _very_ similar ratio and absolute numbers. wow.
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Ryo!
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
In March the Mean was: 1.49
- Micah Wittman
1.021276595744680851063829787234042553191489361702127659... via Wolfram Alpha
- tom murphy
Thanks, tom. And though a bit verbose, your friend Wolfram is resourceful :D
- Micah Wittman
0.55 (254/444)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Thank you, Willem.
- Micah Wittman
In April you were 0.97, so you're liking more / commenting less.
- Micah Wittman
1.88 (779/414)
- Ton Zijp
Thanks, Ton.
- Micah Wittman
0.43 (3597/8305).
- Parth Awasthi
0.74 (1970/2667)
- Scott of Two Countries
And thank you Parth, Scott.
- Micah Wittman
Parth, compared to your April numbers, you've been consistent.
- Micah Wittman
2.12 is my ratio.
- Rick Cogley
Thanks, Rick!
- Micah Wittman
Np Micah. What is that photo?
- Rick Cogley
.54 (4148/7674) Updated!
- Michael Fidler
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
1.82 from 798 comments / 438 likes
- David Damore
Thanks, nivé and David!
- Micah Wittman
2027/1594 = 1.27
- Brome
0.58
- Marc Dong
2.9 (3,242/1,116) mhhh.. time to straighten my use of FF a bit.. thanks for this entry
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Brome, Marc and Thierry - thank you!
- Micah Wittman
Thierry - yeah, 2.9 is fairly high - got to pick the pace on like side :) [but hey, whatever works for you is fine]
- Micah Wittman
Stats Update: Last time I commented here my comment to like ratio was 0.107 it's increased to 0.645 ;)
- Nicholas James
1.91
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Thank you Nicholas and MiniMage!
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
It's that time again.
- Micah Wittman
.50
- LB - all new for '10!
Thanks, Laura! (you're a 50-caliber gal!)
- Micah Wittman
0.64
- Imabug
Thank you, Imabug.
- Micah Wittman
4.67 (I'm greedy :p)
- directeur
0.99
- Steven Perez
1.06
- Jim in Real Time
.81
- Brent - Loving Life
.63
- metalerik
Thanks Imabug, directeur, Steven, RAPatton, Jim, Brent and metalerik!
- Micah Wittman
.83
- Jimminy Fuller
0.78
- Pete Delucchi
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren -- Designated Driver
And thank you Jimminy, Pete, Bren and Penguin!
- Micah Wittman
2.47 as of right now.
- Jonas, Leper of FF
Micah, are you doing something with these numbers? If so sounds interesting.
- Jimminy Fuller
0.58
- James (!?)
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Jonas, James and Kurt - thanks you!
- Micah Wittman
You're welcome. I hope the results do some good. :-)
- James (!?)
.31. I have almost 4 times as many likes as comments.
- edythe
.86
- Eric Logan
Thank you edythe and Eric!
- Micah Wittman
195/245 makes 0.8 rounded not including this one which would be 196/245 making 0.8 unrounded,
- tom murphy
Thanks, Tom.
- Micah Wittman
1.98 (588/297)
- Bryan Zirkel
1.67 (19,550/11,684)
- Mitchell Tsai
1:2
- Jeff P. Henderson
Bryan, Mitchell and Jeff P. - thanks, guys!
- Micah Wittman
1.18 - it's always been close to 1, since day one, for some reason.
- Laura Norvig
Wow, Penguin is a prolific liker!
- Laura Norvig
2.67 (875/328)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Thank you, Nathalie!
- Micah Wittman
2.18
- Spidra Webster
1.29
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
Thanks, Spidra and Mark!
- Micah Wittman
0.49
- Jammy Lee
0.825
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Jammy and Mathew, thank you very much.
- Micah Wittman
2.16
- SuezanneC Baskerville
I don't know I just like that picture
- Brian Hendrickson
.40
- Ben Hanten
SuezanneC, Brian, B E N and Joe - thank you all very much!
- Micah Wittman
Joe, it's like see the odometer click through a nice round number - it's just inexplicably engaging. :)
- Micah Wittman
1.40, nearly the square root of two.
- Raphael, Raphael
0.58
- Andy Bold
Thanks, Raphael and Andy!
- Micah Wittman
1.15 (6777/5873)
- JA Castillo
12.23 (844 / 69 ) I guess I take my likes seriously ;)
- Chris Myles
1.63
- Serkan Mutlu
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
.87
- Nine
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
1.78 (8529/4782)
- Micah Wittman
Likes are down relative to comments, which matches my much lower frequency of liking. I'm a more selective liker than ever.
- Micah Wittman
0.9009 (6055/6721)
- Jason Huebel
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
383/372
- ashish
'Just clicking "Like" seems too easy' — Jason, that's because you're from the Chatty-ite tribe :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, ashish.
- Micah Wittman
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
When I first saw this: 1.91 Sept 28: 1.94
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
536 comments in the last month has me at .8736...still creeping toward 1.00
- Bren -- Designated Driver
.64
- Shannon Jiménez
Thanks, MiniMage (2x participant!), Bren (3x!) and Shannon (your inaugural visit!)
- Micah Wittman
Thank you, SustainedEuphoria.
- Micah Wittman
I 'liked" this to change my ratio! (1.22 1040/850)
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
Thanks, Mark.
- Micah Wittman
1.45
- Brett Kelly
Thanks, Brett :)
- Micah Wittman
5.67 all time. Second highest ratio on here. Woot! I love to talk.
- Kevin L
0.125, I need to talk more ;)
- mridul
Thank you both, Kevin and mridul (the two of you balance it each well :)
- Micah Wittman
1.80 (10,189 / 5,666) [compared to Likes, my Comments still continue to rise]
- Micah Wittman
1.02 (10323/10161)
- Bren -- Designated Driver
.5666 currently (30,084/53,093)
- Alex Scoble
Thanks, Bren.
- Micah Wittman
Thank you, Alex :)
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren -- Designated Driver
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren -- Designated Driver
1.8
- Blackeyed P
4.26?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Thanks, Sarah, Tutivillus.
- Micah Wittman
1.19
- Joe Bonner
Micah this is like 11 months ago, I see you have almost doubled your rate. lets make a graph for everybody now, :)
- Mahmood Padura
Quick, someone write a greasemonkey script to inline some google charts! (tap-tap-tap...wut? don't look at me ;)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Joe. And you thank you, Mahmood :)
- Micah Wittman
1.66
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Thanks, Glen! Your comments in the ratio have gone up too.
- Micah Wittman
1.70 (it was 1.41 on Jan 8)
- WorldofHiglet
WorldofHiglet, thank you :) The comments are strong in this one.
- Micah Wittman
0.64 (2,589/4,051)
- Chieze Okoye
0.58
- Thomas Page
Chieze and Thomas - thank you!
- Micah Wittman
*bumpage*
- Micah Wittman
So, Micah, we never did find out what you were doing with this info....
- WorldofHiglet
2.21 (2,812/1,275)
- Rene Wirtz
0.27 (5637/20234) - I only see a couple people lower than me.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
4.06 (747/184)
- Jan Ole Peek
WoH, World Domination.
- Micah Wittman
Rene, John and Jan - thank you, all three! :)
- Micah Wittman
1.94
- تلخک
2.74 (4,446 / 12,204)
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
0.97 (6,694/6,929)
- Jimminy Fuller
Thank you J., Jimminy and آقای تلخک :)
- Micah Wittman
2.23
- Paola Bonomo
0.71 (8,200/11,551) updated
- Michael Fidler
0.03 (284 / 10378)!
- Daniel Rowley
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel!
- Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments.
- Christopher Harley
*thanks Christopher thoroughly*
- Micah Wittman
14.86 (1442/97) I'm going the wrong way!!
- Chris Myles
Re: The great IMAP migration… - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"Yes, this post is getting pretty old, but I'm glad you were able to figure out how to get it to work with newer versions of the tools."
- Brian Roy
They said they will End of Life Quicken Online in six months
- Francine Hardaway
from PeopleBrowsr
Both QBOE (Quickbooks online) and Quicken online were bastard children they never really cared about or invested in. One of the main reasons I didn't want to stay was the ingrained belief that creating SaaS products would "steal" market share from the shrinkwrap business... Now they have no choice but to innovate via aquisition. I expect another aquisition in the Quickbooks space in the next 6-18 months...
- Brian Roy
from email
Wireless networked Brother printer sees 70% discount - just $89.99... - http://www.9to5mac.com/brother...
Great deal... I have one of these and it is fantastic.
- Brian Roy
Re: E-Mail Marketing Suppliers, can you do this? - http://business901.com/blog1...
"Your frustration is understandable... and may be the Achilles heel of many Software as a Service or "Cloud Computing" vendors. Really, this is nothing new... vendors lock you out of your data and provide you "features" to see what they've decided you need to see. I contend that the most interesting (and valuable in terms of ROI) questions are those that are unique to you and your business. That is why my company - justSignal http://justsignal.com - is built on the principal that your data is yours. Want to pull it all out every hour and put it in your reporting database? No problem."
- Brian Roy
AT&T's 3G MicroCell does unlimited calling, but it ain't cheap - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
WTF ATT - Why don't you just get a big sign that says "please go and find a new carrier, 'cause we really don't give a shit unless we can wring some more cash out of you".
- Brian Roy
Re: How to Use Twitter and Asterisk for Call Notification - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"Joseph - Thanks for letting me know. I've added a link to the script in a zip file. Let me know if you have any issues with that. Brian"
- Brian Roy
My complete lack of Graphics Artist chops is a major freaking barrier to getting what I want done done.
That's why we have teams. What about all the guys @gangplank
- Francine Hardaway
from PeopleBrowsr
Re: louisgray.com: Social Media Is Infrastructure: PR, Marketing, Ads Safe - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
"Louis - I had hugely high hopes for this post... I thought you might really address the title you chose. Here is why: I really think Social Media IS INFRASTRUCTURE. Companies will use it to do the things they already have to do (communicate, support, service, lead gen., product management, etc) using a new valuable set of input. Where Social Media will really impact business will be from the ability to drive information found in social media into every decision making process in the company. You can't do that with trite "sentiment tools" or vague "social index metrics". You can do that by mining out what your customers would like to see in the next product release, or the quick and easy things you can do to make flying your airline a better experience. I know that isn't as sexy as "brand sentiment" or "share of voice" - but it is where the rubber meets the road and (I'm convinced) where the ROI for Social Media in business lives."
- Brian Roy
Re: louisgray.com: Social Media Is Infrastructure: PR, Marketing, Ads Safe - http://live.louisgray.com/2009...
"Louis - I had hugely high hopes for this post... I thought you might really address the title you chose. Here is why: I really think Social Media IS INFRASTRUCTURE. Companies will use it to do the things they already have to do (communicate, support, service, lead gen., product management, etc) using a new valuable set of input. Where Social Media will really impact business will be from the ability to drive information found in social media into every decision making process in the company. You can't do that with trite "sentiment tools" or vague "social index metrics". You can do that by mining out what your customers would like to see in the next product release, or the quick and easy things you can do to make flying your airline a better experience. I know that isn't as sexy as "brand sentiment" or "share of voice" - but it is where the rubber meets the road and (I'm convinced) where the ROI for Social Media in business lives."
- Brian Roy
"Louis - I had hugely high hopes for this post... I thought you might really address the title you chose. Here is why: I really think Social Media IS INFRASTRUCTURE. Companies will use it to do the things they already have to do (communicate, support, service, lead gen., product management, etc) using a new valuable set of input. Where Social Media will really impact business will be from the ability to drive information found in social media into every decision making process in the company. You can't do that with trite "sentiment tools" or vague "social index metrics". You can do that by mining out what your customers would like to see in the next product release, or the quick and easy things you can do to make flying your airline a better experience. I know that isn't as sexy as "brand sentiment" or "share of voice" - but it is where the rubber meets the road and (I'm convinced) where the ROI for Social Media in business lives."
- Brian Roy
Re: louisgray.com: Twitter to Embrace Retweeting, Releases Developer Preview API - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
"The HUGE disappointment from all of this is that it appears the (apparently abandoned) search API was never mentioned. If this fails to appear in Search AND the Search API the vast majority of the utility will be lost. ReTweets in my timeline are great... but ReTweets on topics I search for are what really matters..."
- Brian Roy
"The HUGE disappointment from all of this is that it appears the search API was left out. If this fails to appear in Search AND the Search API the vast majority of the utility will be lost. ReTweets in my timeline are great... but ReTweets on topics I search for are what really matters..."
- Brian Roy
Failed Deadline Blockbusters - http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009...
Wow... if the Padres didn't do that deal they are really dense. Loney, Dejesus and Martin + 2 more... are you kidding me?
- Brian Roy
Skype As We Know It May Not Exist Much Longer, eBay Says - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Ebay as we know may not exist much longer.
- Brian Sullivan
True... frankly it looks like the Founders of Skype are using the license as leverage to be able to buy it back from eBay...
- Brian Roy
I am a huge fan of Friendfeed as against to Twitter due to the features like comment, like, customized rooms etc... But when it comes to mobile application, (I use windows mobile), friendfeed is a huge let down. Twitter won hands down with a simplistic design and user friendly interface. Any idea of improving the mobile friendfeed application?
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Sure, reduce feature set. FF could be mobile-friendly if its only operations were read and write.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Probably my biggest complaint right now. The iPhone interface hasn't changed in a while and is missing access to a number of newer features (such as DMs). It could use some attention.
- Jason Huebel
My biggest issue is threads with lots of comments. I don't even open them on the iphone. I'm also not sure how they should be handled.
- Todd Hoff
Vino, do you use http://friendfeed.com/iphone?
- Jérôme Flipo
Just email... :)
- David Schmidt
This is the biggest drawback of FriendFeed when compared to Twitter. But now that FriendFeed has a new API I'm hoping that we'll see some cool new mobile apps soon.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I don't think that the API was the issue... The old API was fine for creating apps. The challenge with FF (IMHO) is that it requires too much (of my scarce) attention. On a mobile managing that is even worse....
- Brian Roy
mobile support across all major platforms woiuld be a huge plus, agree
- Jeroen De Miranda
But we also have to consider that many people are now using other mobile apps for Twitter use, like Tweetie, Hahlo, Twitterific etc.
- Amir
Vino, try using Skyfire http://www.skyfire.com/ with http://friendfeed.com/iphone - that's been the best way on my Treo. Still not as fluid as on the Iphone or web, but it's serviceable. Skyfire in general is a pretty good browser choice for viewing non-mobile web content.
- Bill Kinney
Re: Mission accomplished - VoIP Softphone for Mac - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"I agree... I'd assume it is a simple change. As far as DND goes my solution for that is command +q (quit the app). Amazingly effective :) DND should be easy for them to implement as well... From what I've been told by others the DEVs are very responsive."
- Brian Roy
Re: Mission accomplished - VoIP Softphone for Mac - http://briantroy.com/blog...
"Sadly, no... That is my one gripe with the applicaiton. If you have multiple registrations (lines) it is very difficult to tell - while the phone is ringing - which registration (line) the call is coming in on. That is because is simply says "incoming call on line X" - which means I'd have to remember which of my registrations was on which line. I have not contacted the developer about this... but if it is really a problem for you that is exactly what I'd do. Thanks! Brian"
- Brian Roy
My rules for using FriendFeed's new feature of turning off comments:
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1. If the mob is going against Mike Arrington, my comments will remain open. (Here's the details behind the new features: http://friendfeed.com/bret... ).
- Robert Scoble
2. If the mob is going against me, my comments will close.
- Robert Scoble
Good to know! :)
- Jigar Mehta
booooo
- Daniel Lizio-Katzen
Ahh, don't you like features that can be used to control mobs?
- Robert Scoble
LOL
- Josh Haley
Too funny.
- Jim Graham
sounds fair
- Matt Soreco
I'm just kidding, of course.
- Robert Scoble
Personally I will not participate in threads where comments are turned off :-)
- Todd Hoff
Let's test this! Mike Arrington is pretty bad!
- Bryce Montgomery
lol
- iTbay
Bryce: more than four people have to agree with you to be considered a mob.
- Robert Scoble
@Bryce - mike arrington is really cool - almost god like. Really.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
They're getting their torches and pitchforks. Give it time.
- Bryce Montgomery
i love the comment feature. but the question is, isn't this just like wave?
- Daniel Lizio-Katzen
I honestly have no opinion on Arrington
- Bryce Montgomery
Daniel: except we can use it today.
- Robert Scoble
yep ;-)
- Daniel Lizio-Katzen
@Scoble - I am shocked you would say this, hopefully you are kidding.
- Dave Hodson
Guys, pls don't start the "Friendfeed mob" meme again ... boring
- Dave Hodson
oh yeah, and it's ≠ to google
- Daniel Lizio-Katzen
Dave: of course I am kidding. And, if I'm not, all I will be doing is encouraging the mob to head over to your comments.
- Robert Scoble
Because I can't turn off your comments.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble is armed with comments and he's not afraid to use them
- Keith Barrett
from Android
Loving it!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Haha! I was expecting a deep philosophical rule system for this.
- Adam Jackson
@Adam me too.... where's my top 10 list.
- Bill Grant
I've been spending too much time online when things like this make me laugh aloud at my screen. At least no one's here to witness it.
- Enrique Gutierrez
I am hoping everything will go on just as before. No comment closings
- Mark
Bill: the only time I'd turn off comments is if spammers started to figure out how to take over here.
- Robert Scoble
Do the comments need to be pithy to qualify as "mobby"?
- Chris Sparno
What if the mob starts cursing his holiness the Pope, or music icon Billy Idol? Will you close them then?
- Mitch
Fuck the Pope. Better add blasphemy to that list
- Mark
Why would someone spam friendfeed comments? What would be the point there is no one here right? (yep, spammers no one here at all move along and go to your mass email client)
- Luke Kilpatrick
Billy Idol, now that's just unfair. Where is my torch fuel.
- Chris Sparno
Where do you find the people you blocked?
- Myrna
Myrna: I don't know of a place you can see that.
- Robert Scoble
I LOL'd
- Bwana ☠
So can you make a test post Robert to test the new feature with us
- Mark
Mark: Louis Gray already did that.
- Robert Scoble
Crap, i unfollowed him, he always posts pics of his kids. people ask me why im looking at pictures of babies.
- Mark
Was wondering, if ppl have been commenting and then you choose to disable does it hide/delete current/previous comments, or does it simply lock the thread?
- CannonGod
CannonGod - Example here http://friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Bwana ☠
CannonGod: it just locks the thread. Want me to lock this one to demonstrate?
- Robert Scoble
Please lock. (curious)
- Jay Cuthrell
Lock!
- Mark
can u unlock?
- Marco
Jay: I locked this thread for 10 seconds then reenabled them.
- Robert Scoble
Lock or it didn't happen!!!!
- Mark
A lock mob is forming ;-)
- Jay Cuthrell
...once you lock, that is.
- Marco
Nicely done. I want to automatically lock threads after 30 days as a defense against spam.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert --- I was wondering if the delay was via lock or lull
- Jay Cuthrell
Geeezzzzz... talk about circling the drain.
- Brian Roy
what do you mean Brian?
- Mark
Robert, you can always order the Angry Mob play set here if you need it... http://bit.ly/JiJfP
- Chris Sparno
I'm just amazed at how year(s) old features in other mediums are being pulled into places like FF. (i.e. LiveJournal screening, IP address capture, etc...)
- Jay Cuthrell
Mark, that's a very funny reason to unfollow. :)
- Louis Gray
Is a comment box placed in the middle of the comment stream an indication of a lock taking place or is my UI being dumb?
- Jay Cuthrell
It's a cultural thing Louis. In Britain we have a real shortage of male teachers. There seems to be a fear that men working with children MUST be paedophiles. Why would a man work with kids etc? A single 25 year old male looking at pictures of a strangers babies is just slightly uncomfortable here for some reason
- Mark
Robert sucks! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Pitch Fork! Pitch Fork! Pitch Fork!
- Jorge Escobar
Jorge: you must be more original than that to get a mob going.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, what if you want to unblock someone you've blocked? There must be a place..anyone know?
- Myrna
True Robert
- Jorge Escobar
Myrna: yes, you have to go back to their original account to unblock them. One secret little tip: if you log out everyone you blocked is now unblocked, so you can search for them.
- Robert Scoble
I can't believe Robert said anyone who likes Leo Laporte must be a big sissy girly who knows nothing about tech
- Mark
Is Friendfeed a touch laggy tonight for anyone?
- Mark
So is Mike getting this back? http://friendfeed.com/techcru...
- Jorge Escobar
Robert, LOL, not sure of their name..I'm going to persevere. I think I saw it somewhere here.
- Myrna
Scoble/Bwana - Thanks for the examples guys. I'm just waiting for threaded conversations for things to be perfect :) - also, setting a timed auto-lock of threads = not a terribly bad idea.
- CannonGod
and I thoughts mobs were 'wisdom of the crowds' ;)
- Mrinal Desai
Mrinal: if the mob is attacking someone else, it's wisdom of the crowd. If the mob is attacking you, it's a damn destructive mob.
- Robert Scoble
Also called 'Bad Mob'
- Jorge Escobar
if someone closes comments on a thread, someone else should fork a new thread to pick up where the old one left off. call it a #pitch_fork :-D
- Karim
I feel empowered by our mob. And its all Scoble's fault ;) http://bit.ly/rpg8e
- Chris Sparno
Karim, I think "forking threads" is not a very nice thing to say. This is a family oriented mob forum (except for the pope comment earlier).
- Chris Sparno
I say, "Fork 'em! Fork 'em all!" -- who's with me!
- Jorge Escobar
lol Jorge Escobar
- Kim Landwehr
+1 Kim.
- George Hall (Australia)
Fork this!
- Rick Cogley
I click the "best of day" filter fairly often and I don't know how much a problem this is. Seems as though the only point of FF is the comments. So if you say something that drives controversy and you get engagement... isn't that what the service is for?
- Sajida H Khan
Social CRM will become the norm VERY quickly. You heard it from me. #CrunchUP
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OK... I'll ask... since I've been in the middle of CRM since before we called it that... When was CRM anti-social? How is it MORE social now?
- Brian Roy
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Twitter is 5 min. behind. I'm getting my Twitter updates on FriendFeed 5 min. before they show on Twitter and 7 min. before Twhirl pulls them in.
- Admiral Anika
Yup. Can't even get anything to load on Tweetie. just spinning wheels.
- Karoli
Hmmm... justSignal seems to be caught up... Want me to add crunchup to my filter for you?
- Brian Roy
brian, for now i'm using the friendfeed widget...trying to play a little with the different site-based goodies. But twitter is just a bear today. LOL.
- Karoli
OK... I threw it in my filter... you can see it at: http://briantroy.com/blog... If you want to see just crunchup click "filter this content" and add "crunchup" to "show if it includes" filter.
- Brian Roy
okay, going there. what the heck, might as well load up a few more. LOL..
- Karoli
FYI... the collector is speeding up to keep up with the crunchup volume... it will get more real time over the next few minutes...
- Brian Roy
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