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Live blogging from #140tc Alex Payne (head of Twitter's API team) is on stage now. Join here:
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His Twitter address: @al3x - Robert Scoble
Now showing off original API page. It was one page. - Robert Scoble
First Twitter app was by Chris Messina. - Robert Scoble
Growl, in January 2007. Alex said he used Growl got him thinking about how to use Twitter. - Robert Scoble
Showing Twitter in 2007. Looked a bit uglier back then. - Robert Scoble
Back then Twitter was three full time engineers and one ops guy. I remember those days. - Robert Scoble
Loving the different screenshots of twitter homepages.. I want that PPT - Dave Peck
Dave: me too. I'll try to get him to post it. - Robert Scoble
Are they streaming this anywhere? I'm guessing no... - Brett Kelly
Now showing off Twitterific. October 2007. - Robert Scoble
"It really wasn't before Twitterific was on thousands of desktops that we ever talked to a developer," Alex said. - Robert Scoble
Tweetie! Tweetie! Tweetie! - Michael Fortson
I dont think its being streamed. They do have video cameras here. So it must be available later I would think - Dave Peck
Dave: I thought about doing the video, but the bandwidth sucks. Like usual. - Robert Scoble
"We're over 45 employees, close to 70 with contractors." - Robert Scoble
They just said there are over 10,000 twitter API apps. - Andru Edwards
Now he's showing off Tweetie. "I'm proud to say that the developer is 'more than living off the sales of Tweetie.'" - Robert Scoble
TweetDeck, he says is an essential tool for many people. - Robert Scoble
Love the pic Robert! Great composition - Belinda Simcox (Sim)
No live feed, but we are recording the entire 140 conference, which will be available after. Nice and professional-looking. - Andru Edwards
I pretty much live on TweetDeck. - Bhavishya Kanjhan
CoTweet, he says, is being used by Twitter to provide support (I just met the CEO, will get him to give you a demo). - Robert Scoble
CoTweet is a tool that lets teams manage multiple Twitter accounts. - Robert Scoble
Now switching to show off news organizations that are using Twitter. - Robert Scoble
We're covering the event in a Whrrl story too, if you want to see a bunch of images and text updates: http://whrrl.com/e/fjL96 - Andru Edwards
"We have so much data that providing a nuanced view of it is not something we can do in house," Payne said. - Robert Scoble
Now showing off StockTwits to punctuate that point. - Robert Scoble
And TipToy, which lets you give and get money on Twitter. - Robert Scoble
I'm a TipJoy fan. - Andru Edwards
And of course, TwitPic - Andru Edwards
I'm a TweetDeck fan :) - Iain Dodsworth
Now moving on to the future. - Andru Edwards
Interesting new features, he says, are like what Disqus are using, to do an automatic login via OAuth to comment on a blog with single sign on. "That's just the beginning." Twitter wants to be the leader in portable identity. - Robert Scoble
Streaming API. It doesn't make sense for third parties to poll Twitter. Old way "do you have new data?" New way: get access to the firehose stream. - Robert Scoble
Heh, Hello Iain, nice to see you around here :) - Simon Wicks
Iain: I'll be in London in early July. Want to meet up there? - Robert Scoble
Streaming API that pushes rather than making tools poll constantly is coming. - Andru Edwards
OAuth. Expect more. "OAuth is our investment in ending what experts are calling the password antipattern." - Robert Scoble
very good to be here - been neglecting FF, but that will change shortly - Iain Dodsworth
Oh yeah? Is that a hint at something new? - Simon Wicks
Robert - definitely on for early July - just let me know, I have SOOO much to discuss :) we may have been quiet over here at TweetDeck... - Iain Dodsworth
Iain, cool. Can't wait to see what you do with TweetDeck. - Robert Scoble
Better support is where Twitter is focusing most of its efforts. - Robert Scoble
Robert - email or DM best way to stay in touch? - Iain Dodsworth
Friendfeed DM. Email scobleizer@gmail.com is probably best, though, cause I'd like to get others involved as well - Robert Scoble
Cool - I'll leave you to it - enjoying the live blogging - Iain Dodsworth
"Your personal identity leader" lacks a little when compared to "What are you doing?" - Todd Hoff
Slide now? "More consistent." He says that there's inconcistencies between data sets they are providing to various developers that they are going to be fixing. - Robert Scoble
Next slide? "More transparent." "If we have data, if we have statistics, if we have numbers interesting to the community we will be there." - Robert Scoble
heading to the Qik office -- thanks for the updates, Robert! - Michael Fortson
He is pitching a developer's bill of rights. Interesting. - Robert Scoble
They want to be very clear in future with a "bill of rights" that will tell developers what to expect in future from Twitter's API. - Robert Scoble
Summary of Future from @al3x: streaming api, OAuth, better support, more consistent, more transparent - warren sukernek
Warren: thanks, couldn't have said it better myself! - Robert Scoble
Any questions I should ask? - Robert Scoble
I like the idea of a developers bill of rights - Dave Peck
Robert is first to ask Alex a question..of course! - Dave Peck
Dave: of course! - Robert Scoble
API default going to be bumped from 100! - Dave Peck
Q&A: Will there be changes to the number of times a developer can hit the API? Answer: Limit is currently 100 per hour, and that will be bumped up. - Andru Edwards
I asked him the Jesse Stay question: will they give developers more access to the API (more requests per IP address). He said "yes." - Robert Scoble
Will devs be able to purchase premium levels of API usage to pass onto users of their apps? - Iain Dodsworth
Iain: just had Broback ask that. - Robert Scoble
interesting question Iain - what would you pay? - michael sean wright
Will the stream API be part of the existing REST API or a separate socket connection-type implementation? - Bryan Bartow
He answered: Thus far we are still a small company with limited resources so we ha've decided to focus on consumer focused monetization strategies. - Robert Scoble
nicefishfilms - i'd pay a lot :) and could offer many new services which are currently unfeasible - Iain Dodsworth
Iain: What would be the first feature/added service you would add if you had unlimited API calls? - Mike Bracco
Iain- your growth has proven you're on the right 'track' i would support a super version from you. - michael sean wright
Sounds like this #140tc conference will be big on Twitter relevant announcements, Scoble is FriendFeed-casting it here -> - Alex Schleber
Mike: would love to tell you but we're unfortunately now in the position where we have to protect our roadmap - which is a shame - Iain Dodsworth
nicefishfilms: thanks for the support :) - Iain Dodsworth
Robert: can you ask about twitter meme tracker ? Do they have an opinion on discovery vs. search ? - twitscoop
Iain: Gotcha :) Figured you might answer with that but I totally understand. Love your product (and the icon change a little while back :). - Mike Bracco
Do you think Alex can speak to other things regarding twitter other then development? Like how companies can get their brand name on Twitter vs squatters, etc.. - Dave Peck
Iain: I'm in marketing/branding and wonder how you guys think about your brand - In that you now offer Facebook support and I'm sure a bunch of other things down the line. Are you concerned that TweetDeck might be too limiting or do you believe that it's similar to the iTunes brand where everyone knows that iTunes is more than just music. - Mike Bracco
Dave: he said that he's there to talk about the API parts of Twitter and will defer other questions to other people. - Robert Scoble
twitscoop: I'll try, but I've already asked too many questions. - Robert Scoble
As long as the questions are meaningful, I don't think they won't allow you to ask ;) Thanks for trying! - twitscoop
Someone asked about what effect the Oprah effect has had on Twitter's team. They said they had to focus more on scaling out social graphs to big users. - Robert Scoble
People asked about metadata, especially when it comes to location. They said they just hired a person to do exactly that. Sounds like they are worried about Twinkle. - Robert Scoble
Mike: we should move this conversation to another place - Iain Dodsworth
He also made it clear that they are looking at adding other types of metadata to Twitter as well. Sounds like they are about to get serious about search. That makes a fundamental change in strategy, too. - Robert Scoble
Dave: Anamitra Banerji's, Twitter's Product Manager, keynote tomorrow morning is going to be all about Twitter from business perspective - Belinda Simcox (Sim)
More about this session is flowing in at http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble
Robert, bit.ly is now the url short'ner of choice for Twitter, bit.ly is using Calais to extract smart data, thoughts? - michael sean wright
who do twitter want to buy! any acquisition potential out there and why? - Nigel Walsh
any plans to connect to other messaging platforms, eg Skype, MSN etc and become THE UC platform - Nigel Walsh
Iain: Ok, posted on FF http://bit.ly/QgqaI but no need to respond - I'm sure your busy following this stream. - Mike Bracco
Someone packing dSLR heat. Alex's presentation was great. next time bring a 300mm so you can stay seated LOL - Jim Goldstein
nicefishfilms: I don't have too many thoughts about the tiny URL folks. I am worried about the amount of power that we are giving them. The web works best when it's decentralized and everytime we choose to centralize again nasty stuff happens (look at Feedburner, for instance, and how it slowed everyone's feeds down for a while). - Robert Scoble
nicefishfilms: There was an interesting discussion about these services yesterday on this FF thread - http://bit.ly/iEOh2 - Mike Bracco
Robert- agree, am interested in the extraction in a split-second of what the that url points to (the meaning of the article.) Perhaps we'll see better clustering of info based on Calais. Could see a FriendFeed room set up to catch the bit.ly data. - michael sean wright
@ Mike, thank you. - michael sean wright
Jim: I'll have a 600mm F4.0 here this afternoon. :-) - Robert Scoble
nicefilms or Scoble: do you know of any services that give you that "split second" meaning but for twitter trends? I subscribe via RSS to http://www.whatthetrend.com/ because it's the only service I have found that gives you a human definition of the trend and not just tweets that mention the trend. - Mike Bracco
Ask him when I'll be able to retrieve all of Britney Spears followers without it erroring out :) - Jesse Stay
@ Mike - don't know if that exists yet... but would point you to http://opencalais.com and look for the semantic proxy. seems to be the closest. What i'm looking for is that real-time 'meaning' extraction organized, curated in a visually compelling way. (we can dream right?) - michael sean wright
I love seeing Iain here - one of my favorite developers. :-) Thanks for asking the premium API option - we all want it. I don't get why they can't provide it. - Jesse Stay
I wish I was here earlier - I have so many questions for them. :) - Jesse Stay
Hey Jesse, with you on that - let me pay for unlimited API access for the user (whilst retaining the inherent filtering the API provides) and we'll deliver some of our "dream" functionality :) - Iain Dodsworth
Discussing hootsuite w/ @iJustine, @davepeck, and missrogue - Tony Zanders
Search google for "xefer" and click on "projects" to see when a person tweets everyday. It's a Twitter API and Yahoo! Pipes mashup. The "When people sleep" utility. - Tony Zanders
http://twitter.mailana.com allows you to diagram who you, or someone else's buddies are, based on your @ replies, etc... - Tony Zanders
thank god they are committed to ending the password antipattern - Jon
Chris Brogan
100 Personal Branding Tactics Using Social Media - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/100-per...
Great list. Who knew there were 100 things you could do? They're all right on though. - Leo Laporte
This is so weird.. I was just thinking about this today, when I was arguing with my wife about why I post so much stuff. I'm thinking that personal branding is important. - Joe Mac Stevens
Really good stuff, Chris. Thanks for sharing. - Bruce Turner
Thank You! Excellent topic that I will delve into right away. - Wendy J. Roan from twhirl
Excellent piece by Chris! - Charlie Anzman
add this to listropolis - http://www.listropolis.com/2008... - shaun mclane
except that you do a US only list it is a nice list. would it really be asked too much to at least recognize that for example linkedin does not rule the world and write "join the leading biz network, like for example linkedin"? - Nicole Simon
Holy crap, Chris! This is great stuff! Would you say personal branding is for anyone, or more for people who have something to sell through their online persona (a product, service, or opinion)? - Zach Landes
thanks Chris - what a great resource - wil be sending this to all my staff - if only they will DO IT! :) - Brad from twhirl
Wow, this list is awesome Chris. Thanks for sharing it. - Jason Runyan
Kick Ass - Dave Peck
great article with fantastic tips - Mick Edwards
100 Personal Branding Tactics Using Social Media. Your title is awfully modest considering you covered every marketing aspect in the online world. - Collin
One of the great things about blogging is it gives businesses the opportunity to listen. Your point about listening is well taken. - John P. Kreiss
Robert Scoble
Since several here told me to "stop being so doom and gloom" earlier this week (like my brother did) the market has gone down more than 1,000 points. Hey Jeremy, Alex, and Jesse, let me know what to do now. :-)
I hear drinking and denial are good alternatives right now - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think that when people stop telling me to be "cheerful" that we're near the bottom. Over the last week I've argued that we haven't yet faced our fears. We're getting closer, but I think the storm hasn't even arrived in Silicon Valley yet. Until it does there will be more downward pressure on the market. - Robert Scoble
You should hang your head and survey the chaos you (yes, only you!) have caused with your incessant doom-mongering. Then do what TIna says. - WorldofHiglet
I'm excited because I have good credit, am in need of a house, still making the same with a raise/promotion pending, stocks that will recover are getting cheaper, and I work for an optimization company. These are good times at the moment (for now anyway). - xero
The 90s were bad and now is not fun, but the storm will pass, as it always does. And no, I don't really think it's your fault or that telling people it'll be bad is wrong. But I do think that there's Panic on the Street of London. - WorldofHiglet
WorldofHiglet: hey, if only I had that much power. :-) I'm saving my alcohol for when I really need it. Right now I have too much work to do finding out what's going on in the economy and trying to bring innovative approaches to you. - Robert Scoble
Keep covering your assets. If history is any guide, this isn't over. We'll see rallies, but we're also likely to see more drops like today through November. - Chris Kenton from twhirl
xero: let's see how you feel in six months. Right now I'm in the same boat as you. I'm doing very well. But it's all an illusion if my job evaporates. - Robert Scoble
Oct 1929 crash didn't hit bottom until April 1932. feel better<g>? - MikeAmundsen
And? What's your point? My point was that you saw no way out of this mess and that you said it wouldn't end (death spiral). It will end. It just will cause a lot of grief before it does. And yelling at the top of your voice "WE'RE DOOMED!" isn't really helping the situation. Take a deep breath, count to 10 and look at the good things in your life before you post another doom and gloom message. - Alex Scoble
From Wikidpia about the great depression: "The snowball spiral The Great Depression was not a sudden total collapse. The stock market turned upward in early 1930, returning to early 1929 levels by April, though still almost 30 percent below the peak of September 1929.[6] Together, government and business actually spent more in the first half of 1930 than in the corresponding period of... more... - Johnny Worthington
In early 1930, credit was ample and available at low rates, but people were reluctant to add new debt by borrowing.[citation needed] By May 1930, auto sales had declined to below the levels of 1928. Prices in general began to decline, but wages held steady in 1930, then began to drop in 1931. Conditions were worst in farming areas, where commodity prices plunged, and in mining and... more... - Johnny Worthington
Wow - you're doing it all just for me? *sigh* I'm just so flattered I don't know what to say! :) - WorldofHiglet
yeah i liked all the people pointing out that the individual day drops weren't nearly as bad percentage wise as in the past -- does it really matter if it happens in a day or in a week? - MG Siegler
I think dance naked (again) in a world gone mad... - thomasrdotorg from twhirl
What did being doom and gloom get you? I mean, you don't want to be known as the Eeyore of the Internet ;) In all seriousness, some will panic, some will cry the sky is falling. It'll be difficult for a lot of people but we're part of a boom and bust economy. The bust is here ... the boom will return. - AJ Kohn
Alex: when I say "death spiral" I mean that we're in a downward spiral for the forseeable future. I am not changing my approach. I believe we're going to see at least two quarters of really nasty financial results which will keep us headed in downward trend. I do not see how we're going to pull out of this and neither does anyone else who is in power that I'm talking to. And, yes, yelling DOES help people. You idiots were telling people to buy into this market. That was idiocy four days ago. It still is. - Robert Scoble
Those people are the ones who are in denial. We are in a very bad time and things are just going to get worse. - Mathew™ one of a kind
This market has a LOT more downward pressure to bear on it. We have NOT seen financial results from most publicly traded companies yet. When we do we're going to hear that it was a pretty bad quarter and that will push people's fears further down. We're getting closer to a bottom, though. Even in my deepest "doom and gloom" I never expected us to be headed to $8,000 this week. Wow. - Robert Scoble
It's not idiocy to buy into this market, unless you think it won't go higher ever. In which case you might as well burn all your cash, because then we are all screwed. People should just use dollar cost averaging when they buy into the market. This crap will pass and if you aren't getting in while the getting is good, then you are missing a huge opportunity. - Alex Scoble
@Scoobie: what did Valleywag mean about you not talking to Cisco http://tinyurl.com/53udd5 - Morgan Warstler
AJ: what did it get me? My credibility because I didn't try to falsely blow smoke up your ass and try to get you to invest your money at $10,000 only to see the DOW go down to less than 9,000. - Robert Scoble
While I like a good Scoble fight as much as the next guy... Listen folks; most of us have never seen this type of economy disruption in our lifetime. That's the scary part: we just don't know. We all have our opinions. Is it better to keep it to yourself or to warn others? Not for me to decide. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Robert: I also happen to be one of the best people the company has, I survived two rounds of layoffs in my last company. But, all of that could change at any minute. Things happen. But I always think anything could happen at any minute so I try not to worry about it too much. Besides, you're never out of a job, just in-between employers or getting a much smaller paycheck for a while. Press is always needed. - xero
Morgan: I have video of me speaking at Cisco. Valleywag is bullshit. - Robert Scoble
Mark: the thing is I talk with about 50x more people than my brother does. And people in positions of power and who have visibility into what's going on. THAT is why I'm "doom and gloom" and continue to be. - Robert Scoble
@Robert: Well I wasn't doing that either. Heck, it's bad business to tell anyone else where and when to invest. We're probably pretty close in our views of where the economy is going. It's our reaction to it which is different. Even in the best of times security is an illusion. You can lose your job, you can have medical problems. Trust me, I know. I'm a paranoid-optimist so it's easier for me now that the bad times are here. - AJ Kohn
Alex: it's idiocy to buy into this market THIS WEEK. There is absolutely NO reason to do that. If people had listened to you they would have seen an additional destruction of 10% of their capital. Capital that most people might need to survive a long-term shitstorm, like what this is looking like. Personally, anyone who recommends buying THIS WEEK is an idiot. Park your money and wait for a little clarity. - Robert Scoble
You might miss out on a few small gains, but there is still HUGE downside and downside momentum in this market. Anyone who recommends buying into this market should be treated like an idiot. Sorry. I should have been stronger about this on Monday than I was. - Robert Scoble
Robert, if you need the money within 5 years you shouldn't have it in the market in the first place. But people should not be putting 401k money entirely in to cash, for instance. Particularly if their retirement horizon is greater than 10 years out. - Alex Scoble
And investing out of fear won't get you anywhere either, but you are free to do whatever you want. I'm continuing to put my 401k and IRA money into the market because it does nothing for me sitting on the sidelines and the upside to this market is getting bigger every day. :) - Alex Scoble
I decided I'm not going to worry about it. We are going into this whether we want to or not. I think it's up to everybody whether we recover or not. I'm going for that route. :) From now on I'm focusing on what to do to get through it - Patricia
Tell us how you really feel Robert ;) Perhaps this week isn't but soon. The market is the lowest it's been in 5 years. If you have money and a long time horizon, there are buying opportunities in the near future. It's difficult to predict the bottom, so you can only hope to buy near the bottom. Those with a stomach for risk buy on the left side of the "U", those with less on the right side of the "U". - AJ Kohn
Alex: I agree, but I would not be moving things out of cash right now. In fact, at this point, it's pretty hard to do much of anything. It's probably too late to get out of the market, so just stay in and ride. We'll be close to a buying decision in the next two quarters, but not this week. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Then we agree. Like I said your choice. You have chosen to speak-out because you have a large audience and among those in your audience are people for whom you care, and you want them to do the correct thing. I get that. I also happen to agree that this isn't a "hiccup" and the DJI will be at 11000 next week. Were going into the 7000's and then start from scratch, maybe even lower. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Alex: if you had put all your money in on Monday you would have lost another 10%. You have never changed your strategy. At some point I'll buy in, and when I do I'll have more capital to do that than you will. :-) - Robert Scoble
Chris: no alcohol today. Too much to do. Gotta go get a tire fixed on my car. Sigh. - Robert Scoble
Scoble fight! - Jeremiah Owyang
I don't know. Web entertainment is cheap. Maybe our industry will see an uptick. Entertainment has been recession proof over the years from what I've heard and internet falls into that more than ever. :) There was just a study that more people would cancel cable before they'd cancel web. If the web stays busy, maybe $$ will stay with it. - Patricia
I've never told anyone they should go "all in" in this market...Dollar Cost Averaging...say it with me now folks. And that's advice from Bob Brinker, not just me. - Alex Scoble
Patricia: today I interviewed World Golf Tour, a free online golf game that's awesome. They are going to ride this out very well. People who can't afford to play real golf anymore will come here and play virtual golf. There WILL be winners in this market. But that's a topic for another FriendFeed post. Right now I want to beat up my brother a bit for being too optimistic too early. I think when he finally throws in the towel and decides things suck (downsizing wedding, for instance) that'll say BUY. - Robert Scoble
Alex: dollar cost averaging works. But I'd be conservative and only put at risk capital you won't end up needing in eight months if your job goes away. - Robert Scoble
I won't be downsizing the wedding regardless of what happens. Postpone, perhaps, but not downsize. And I just love how Robert is making this seem like such a huge debate. I never disagreed with him that the economy is in trouble and that the market is in the crapper. I disagreed with how he said it (use of the word deathspiral for instance). I also never told anyone to BUY into this market. Again say it with me people, DOLLAR COST AVERAGING! - Alex Scoble
Alex: if the largest decline in the market EVER is not a "death spiral" I don't know what IS a death spiral. And we're still spiraling down. By the way, if you are in an airplane and you are in a death spiral, it doesn't mean you crash. It just means that right now you have no control and the ground is getting closer. I sure hope the pilot figures out a way to get control, but for now we're in a death spiral and anyone who says we're not is blowing smoke up my ass. - Robert Scoble
8 months? You shouldn't be investing money you need in next 1 to 5 years! That's what the experts I read have been saying. Like I said you are agreeing with me in your very own strange way. - Alex Scoble
This is awesome! I'm guessing Robert is the younger brother - am I right? - James Hull
No, older by 7 years. - Alex Scoble
James: Alex is seven years younger than me. Alex: cool, glad we agree on something, but just above you said five years. One year is a lot closer to eight months than five years is. - Robert Scoble
Yes, if your time horizon for needing liquid cash is 5 years or less that money should NOT be in the stock market. Period. - Alex Scoble
Robert: stock up on guns and ammo. And MREs. And a bunker. [/not kidding] - Steven Perez
Steven: I'm starting to agree with you. But building a bunker ain't possible where I live and due to my under water mortgage I can't move even if I wanted to. Guns? That's why I hired Rocky. :-) - Robert Scoble
Live for today Robert, fear and panic are never productive. Continue to do what you do best, bring us the interesting people and stories in the industry. You might die tomorrow too but you don't seem to be too concerned about that. - Kenton
Kenton: Every day is a blessing. During the last downturn a lady hit me and totalled my car. Worth remembering that tomorrow isn't guaranteed is cool. Oh, I was very productive today and I'm not in a total panic. Even if the world ends I can't control it. I'm just watching and adjusting and trying to learn and trying to keep up on the coming storm. - Robert Scoble
Robert - It's right outside your window! http://friendfeed.com/e... - Charlie Anzman
I've got an alternative suggestion. Forget the stockmarket. Go to prosper.com and put money there right now. I'm earning an average of 11% right now, and it hasn't changed in months.... course I suppose even that could go into the tank if people massively lose their jobs, but at least its not at the whims of what stocks people want to buy from day to day - Justin Long
Robert, just what I've been saying - you have no control over it so keep doing what you're doing. Stay optimistic, prepare, come up with a backup plan, and then live life to its fullest. Look at the good things in life. I have a fear of flying. The only way I get over it is by not paying attention to it - I have no control over the plane so it makes no sense for me to waste my energy worrying. All you can do is have a plan, prepare, and look at the bright side of things. - Jesse Stay
And regarding buying into the market, history shows in several years we'll be back above where we are now. If you buy for the long-haul (which I've been saying), now's an excellent time to buy. No one knows where the bottom will be, we just know that stocks are *very* low right now, so there are some great deals out there. - Jesse Stay
Lastly, if you're still afraid of the market - a 6 month CD in these markets is always a good bet. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
Keep your cash, stock up on food and get real folks...the economy sucks - Susan Beebe
Open an account at the Bank of Sealy Posturepedic. They have good rates on their mattress stuffing cd's. - Paul from fftogo
@Robert if it had gone UP by 1000 points in that same time, would you be posting about the "Heaven Spiral" (or whatever)? Probably not. I'm not saying that *you* can't be fearful, gloomy, etc, but I am saying (again) that when Influential People yell "the sky is falling", it makes it fall faster. Go read about WHY this is all happening, the root is a lack of confidence in the system. The more people believe banks will fail, the more likely they will withdraw their money, then banks *do* fail. - Jeremy Toeman
Jeremiah Owyang
Thinking if social media usage increases - or decreases during a recession
I'd bet on increases. It's a cheap way to network and get info around... - Christopher Butler
Good question ... @waynesutton just tweeted that LinkedIn usage is up... I would have to assume it depends on the service. - Clay Newton
Increase. LinkedIN and FaceBook for professionals. Increasing numbers of blog posts to get name out, etc. - Stephen Pierzchala
If it gets measurement standards then yes. - Steve Rubel
I say it increases becused everyone is going to talk about it on twitter,facebook,friendfeed and the online news and newsbots! - Victor
Increases. Social networking is more useful than ever as people look for opportunities, jobs, etc. - David Risley
Increases big time. As people lose jobs they start using these types of things. - Alex Scoble
We would first have to wait and see if we are in a recession, which could be a while because you need two quarters of negative growth, we have had none so far. - Spencer
That's a generally accepted way to figure out if you are in a recession, but no the only one. - Alex Scoble
I agree with Alex. When people are laid off, they look for opportunities to help them find jobs. Social media is networking with others. - imabonehead
Increase: Entertainment costs will get cut Tweeting is free. - Geoff Schultz
That is the way a recession is determined. But because it's political season people want to 'change' their definition to benefit themselves. - Spencer
Increases. Remember, blogging started during our last downturn when everyone was laid off or under employed. - Robert Scoble
Increase, what else are you going to do the whole day? Unless you used a corporate Laptop and they took that back - dionysus
I have to agree with Scoble it will increase for sure. What are the tangible indications that this will prove true though? - Jeremy Campbell from twhirl
More people looking for new job opportunities, new business opportunities, and more investments means a higher volume of communication. It is likely that innovation in the communication space will also increase as we constantly move towards the most efficient model (we hope). At least until the socialist politicians get a hold of it. >.> - pitlord from twhirl
I believe that people communicate more when they are in trouble, normally getting in touch with old forgotten friends, looking for new ideas, tips, etc. Social media usage should increase a lot now. - Christian Oliver from twhirl
I'd say it increases. People looking for alternative options to big $ advertising not to mention people looking for jobs etc - Trish from twhirl
This would only be a valid question if social media had reached something like a saturation point. But as it's still gaining penetration, a recession should not lower it at all - but could slow growth. - Louis Gray
Increase.. cheap easy way to communicate. Also people will be at home more - Dave Peck
Increases. Need for connected rises. We're certainly seeing a surge over at Plaxo. When giant companies are collapsing over any given weekend, who can afford not to be as wired up as possible? - John McCrea
Increases, becomes less frivolous, more the the point. - Trevor Lee
It will probably increase, people will start to travel less.. and need alternatives for social interaction - Aad 't Hart
Decreases. When ad dollars dry up and investors demand ROI and profitability all of this will become pay to play. - Adam Turetzky
mashable
How to Know if You Should Fire Your Social Media Consultant ( http://mashable.com/2008... )
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed Blog: New FriendFeed design launched... with an exciting new feature! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
FriendFeed Blog: New FriendFeed design launched... with an exciting new feature!
The exciting new feature is duplicate detection. - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
We are in the process of transitioning our servers this afternoon to accommodate the new feature, so there may be a hiccup or two in the meantime :) - Bret Taylor
Here we go! - Andrew Trinh
woohoo!! - Tim Hoeck
Fantastic! This is a huge, HUGE deal. Looking forward to seeing it in action. - AJ Kohn
OH yes! Thank you!! - Mona Nomura from fftogo
awesome - i see it :) - Zee.
I'm wondering how it decides which entry to show and which to collapse. - Andrew Trinh
really cool... it's working now :) Is there any kind of priorities? Like FF entries take priority over Blogs, etc.. or is it first come, first served? - Tim Hoeck
hmm. first off, I <3 friendfeed. But I am kinda sad to see it go the way of all software getting more and more popular, it gets more and more complicated. I love the elegant simplicity of the V1 and hope that you guys can continue to improve the service and features while still maintaining the "light" and simple feel. I know we all struggle with it, but with every V2 product release I'm reminded of this general pattern in SW design. - Jenna Bilotta
I don't get how the duplicate feed works. If you look at the feed items for the two stories attached to this story, they don't have related links. Do they only show up on the home feed? Or does only the first story get the related links section? - Mark Trapp
The entry with the most recent discussion activity goes on top. - Bret Taylor
we don't need to use beta anymore :) new feature is totally awesome. thanks guys. - Baturalp Torun
(channelling corvida ...) awesomesauce! - Rob Diana
Better of discussion activity, having being put in the related entries will definitely kill that. - Andrew Trinh
Bret, awesome. Any chance of seeing this feature in contexts other than the main feed, like on profile pages and rooms? - Mark Trapp
What's the time length for dupe aggregation? A day? A week? A month? All time? - AJ Kohn
The feature will go live in profile pages and rooms soon. Rolling out this feature 100% will take a day or two, so right now, you will only see it on your home feed and friend lists, but we are actively working on transitioning our system so it is available everywhere. - Bret Taylor
Interesting: if you have something hidden, let's say all Google Reader entries without likes and comments, and that's the most recent activity for the link, the entire discussion goes from visible to hidden. Edit: cool, thanks Bret. - Mark Trapp
When will it be in the API? (I know, always the one with the stupid API questions) - Dustin
so this means on those rare days ping.fm actually works, i won't dupes in my feed? - Anika
Cool..very cool - Dave Peck
Very cool feature, only problem will be Twitterers and their love for tinyURL - Steven Cains
Cains: it detects tinyURL and other URL shorteners. It also groups reshares: *swoon* - Mark Trapp
Jawsome! - Phil G
Now that is impressive (Finally Calacanis will only take up 1 space when he makes an announcement) - Steven Cains
+1 Cains - Zee.
who does upgrades in the middle of the day? anyway, seems I am warming to the new layout pretty quickly. - Stewart Rogers
What is the flash embed that is in the middle of the left hand side? - Thaths
Duplicate Detection - Yay! - Derek
Duplicate detection is nice,it will cut down a lot of noice - Steve Chou
in RSS feed you guys forgot to turn off the border of the icon depicting kind of feed recieved - Rohit Srivastwa
Dave Winer
Wow...Tina Fey is a dead ringer for Palin... - Kamath (नमः)
And boy howdy, did she nail that whole "Fargo" accent ... - Steven Perez
Yeah she was made for the part. Completely nailed it. - Dave Winer
Fun that this is how I watch TV now, on Friendfeed. I don't have TV at home, so I just let Dave find the good stuff. : ) - Chris Brogan
Classic - James Tenniswood
She did do a brilliant job. - Zee.
Not clear whether the appropriate response is to laugh or cry ... - Tom Stocky
Depends where they go with it. - Dave Winer
Wow she totally nailed it - Dave Peck
Best line: "I can see Russia from my house!" - Shelly Brisbin from twhirl
the Russia from my house line was classic. - Ian May
l0ckergn0me
I still find Google Spreadsheets the easiest way to track sales leads with the team. Everything else is too expensive and/or SUCKS.
Amen to that. I do exactly the same thing with my 'people' - Kyle Lacy
spreadsheets work well until you find yourself with more than a few dozen prospects per salesperson. Gets very cumbersome at that point. CRM really is your friend. Especially if you expect to follow up on a timely basis for recurring sales. - tagami
It's the best i ever tried, addition of live forms makes co-work so easy - Majento
have you tried the apps from zoho.com? - Anika
I use Evernote for tracking leads, a spreadsheet was too cumbersome - Sally Church
@Sally - How do you have that working? - Shawn Farner
Shawn: I create a new item by person and use the tags to track the leads by client. So if someone calls, all I have to do is open that person's note and add comments at the end with a date. It will also give me the history of everything that happened with that person in the same note. Using tagging, I can quickly summarise a whole account across different people at the end of the month. Hard to do that with spreadsheet. - Sally Church
Sales? Always Be Closing - Internet's Tad
@Sally Pretty clever! - Shawn Farner
Shawn: Thx but I blame Scoble, he recommended the tool :-). I wrote about using it as a CRM here http://oncochat.typepad.com/oncocha... - Sally Church
I am about to try salesforce.com - Loic Le Meur
Salesforce.com is very good. We've been using it since 2001. - Louis Gray
Louis Gray
Social Median Revamps and Introduces "News Streaming" - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Are a lot of people using SocialMedian? I tried it out and just found it noisy and not particularly helpful. - Jason Carreira
Jason - it's on my to-do list. But I haven't logged in and checked it out yet. - Hutch Carpenter
I'm absolutely using it. Not as often as FriendFeed, but the discussions are picking up, as is the content: http://www.socialmedian.com/louisgr... - Louis Gray
SocialMedian is actually pretty good at delivering relevant news. Thanks for the notice Louis. - Chris Pallé
Jason Carreira: to easily filter the noise you need to follow some people and/or join specific topical news networks. Then, you can easily just see the news that your followers are reading and/or only the news relevant to your topical interests. - Jason Goldberg
I did join several groups... didn't see much signal for all of the noise. I get better bang for my buck here and on Google Reader - Jason Carreira
alrighty, so we got our work cut out to convert you ;) - Jason Goldberg
Im signed up just not using it - Dave Peck
Jason C - there's a lot of potential in the "News Networks" paradigm over there. For following individual people, eh, there's lots of services for that, and FriendFeed is my pick of the pack. - Laura Norvig
I could do without the avatar of Jason Goldberg "talking" to me at every step of the way... hehehe. (All in all, i see this as "life streaming" without the life.) This is taking life-streaming a step backwards... FF offers filters so one could achieve a "news stream" FROM a "life stream" ... but you can not do the other way around... so how is this "beyond life-streaming" when life-streaming can slim down to become it? - Matt Shaulis
Jason Calacanis
Great video.. I could use a massage right now. - Michael Rowe from twhirl
Just wondering.. How does YouTube caches the title frame of video.. The frame that I see above has Leah lying but actually that frame comes almost at the end in the video.. (still looks like, somehow YouTube detects if that is put as title frame, more views will be received!) is there any secret algorithm being used.. or I am just dumb and making up things in my mind! - Jigar Mehta
Jigar: It is automatically generated. I believe it is the frame that is exactly at the middle of the clip. - John McCrea
Wow... I just missed that thing.. I think Mahalo already knows that and have put that frame intentionally in the middle to control that!! - Jigar Mehta
Quicktime pro lets you choose the frame, I think a couple of other tools do too. - sergiooo
Loic Le Meur
I am getting so many more comments on Friendfeed than my blog I want them back on my blog. @danielha is cooking this in Disqus, great news!
just add the wordpress friendfeed plugin... - Luca Filigheddu
you're one of my favorite people to follow, if only because you're so active in so many different communities. - Pat Hawks
thanks Pat. Luca, my blog is actually on TypePad and I use Disqus comments on it. - Loic Le Meur
Yes, a big tradeoff here: better conversation and interaction but less traffic and convo ownership. - Soso Sazesh
I hear you! Read this blogpost about it http://peckpack.com/2008... - Dave Peck
right same need for me on blogger. when is Disqus coming out with FF comments? - Simone
For something that didn't look much in the beginning FF sure is becoming quite disruptive. - Jon Dillon
Hey, this IS good news :) - jjprojects
check out js-kit for integration - Loic - talk to Khris at js-kit and get Seesmic integrated for comment re-integration - Ivan Pope from twhirl
Disqus automatically integrating FF comments would be great. - Kevin Bondelli
I don’t believe it is ethical to claim comments back from people who write them on FriendFeed. This means imposing power on your readers. If people want to comment on your blog, they can do it but that is not their preference. And you are not asking people if they want their comments to be seen on your blog. - Kerem Ozkan
I don't care where it takes place. I', just happy to have a good conversation. - shelisrael1
Though, if it weren't for friendfeed, many folks like me probably wouldn't see it to start with. - adam christensen
but to comment on FF is so much more easier and faster...it's Twhirl fault !! - Jean-François Amadei from twhirl
Yeah, the same for me. I've installed the WP plugin, but it keeps telling me there aren't comments on FriendFeed. - Gianluca Neri from twhirl
Guess it might be too late to capitalize on my Disqus-friendfeed comment combiner, huh? - Kevin L
Jeremiah Owyang
I start my morning getting info from Friendfeed before anywhere else.
I start to more and more do the same: 1. Friendfeed 2. Jaiku 3. GReader - Niclas Strandh from Alert Thingy
First I consult the oracle that is my coffee cup, and then FF and Reader, - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Google Reader for information. Then FriendFeed for information and discussion. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
is there a room for FriendFeed addicts? :) I belong there... - Baard @ Pixum
You can add feeds using imaginary friends - Jeremiah Owyang
I always start with FriendFeed, then Reader, and then, and only if I don't decide to blog, I'll glance at my email. - Kevin Gamble
Start with email (need to deal with fires that occur overnight) then GReader then friendfeed. - Jon Erickson
Coffee first before FriendFeed :D - AJ Batac
I think we all do. :) FriendFeed before breakfast. :D - Daynah
Ditto.. but I have a coke first - Dave Peck
FF first. - kamla bhatt
This last week being away from the PC has seen me use Facebook the most out of all the sites I frequent! - Joe Dawson
Me too. A long way to go before a "More people get their news from FriendFeed than from any other source" tag though. - Ben Wern
Same here. - Mattb4rd
i start w/GR and then FF - R. Ferguson
FF is my home page. i go FF, reader, and then a few MSM news sites. - Morgan
I have a feeling that I'm not getting all the news because I'm relying on FriendFeed as the source. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I always start with DrudgeReport and then move to Huffington. Then I open FF. - Internet's Tad
Email > Reader > FriendFeed > Social Median - Louis Gray
I wake up at 2pm, so I don't have a morning. email > twitter > rss > FF - Louie
Coffee<>Friendfeed<>Facebook<>News<>Then I get yelled at by my wife =0) - Jonathan.Rivera
+1 louis. rinse and repeat - Christian Anderson
Friendfeed has moved to the top of the list, even before my email - Pascal
1. NetNewsWire, 2. Internal Wikis, 3. eMails, 4. elsewhere (friendfeed et al.) - Gerrit Eicker
Morning:Techmeme,FriendFeed,Twitter - Igor Poltavskiy
Robert Scoble
Seagate is on FriendFeed now. Say hi to Rich Harris and Seagate. He is watching what you say about storage. Seagate makes hard drives, if you don't know who they are. - http://friendfeed.com/seagate
Oh great...here it comes.... :-) - Seagate
Hello, Rich. Welcome to FriendFeed. - Andy Roth
Rich: enjoy and get us more hard drives! Funny, I am standing right next to him at Seagate's headquarters. They have some cool stuff coming. - Robert Scoble
welcome Rich - 50$ a month is way too much to pay for those little rooms at U haul - any plans in the works? - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco - Seagate is a *different* kind of storage...the kind inside your PC/Mac, DVR, or video game console. - Seagate
hehe Marco. Welcome Rich! - jcunwired
Welcome Rich. Seagate has always been my most favorite of storage options. Reliability is unparalleled, keep up the good work. - Aaron Krug
Haha, I laughed out loud at Starbucks. The Uhaul bit. - Dennis Jackson
Welcome! - Dave Peck
now i am torn - do i assume you were joking about my joke and risk looking like an idiot or do I say "i was just kidding!" and risk looking like I can't spot humor? hmmmm - life's conundrums - regardless, welcome! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco, I didn't know if you were joking or not. I apologize if it offended. I just figured since Robert said hard drive storage in his post, you were just joking. Welcome Rich!! Every hdd I own is Seagate. Love it. - Dennis Jackson
Welcome, Rich. I swear by my 2.5 in. external drive. I have two now... a 100GB and 160GB and they've never given me problems (unlike my buddies who've had comparable Western Digitals). :) - Her Lindsay-ness
@dennis - lol no offense taken - they can't all be home runs but that doesn't stop me from swingin' ; ) - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Erm not sure how I feel about that. I suppose the commercialization is inevitable. - Geoff Schultz
Ok ok...Coming onto FriendFeed on behalf of Seagate it's not safe for me to assume that everyone out here is even a 1/10 as sarcastic as me. So Marco I now know we are on the same page with humor. Keep the jokes coming. :-) - Seagate
Welcome! Good job getting them on FF Scoble :) - simonpure
So Seagate, I want true data backups - redundantly dispersed and copied across multiple servers located all across the internet. 1TB hard drives are cool, but the entire concept of local storage is very 20th century. It won't be long until I need 100s of TBs and running nightly backups is lame and old-fashioned. How will you address the future of storage? What are your strategies? - Internet's Tad
Geoff. I would expect commerce to happen here, yes. Neat thing is it is all voluntary - Robert Scoble
Then again it would be silly of me to not consider all the bloggers attempting to attract readers here "commercial". I retract my previous statement of uncertainty and welcome you to the FF soup. - Geoff Schultz
Steve Spalding
The Web’s Dirty Little Secret - http://howtosplitanatom.com/news...
Great post. - Iain Baker
amen - Mark Dykeman
Great post Steve... some great points in there. Thanks. - Adrian Nadeau
Awesome. - Raoul Pop
Thanks a lot guys. I''m really interested in seeing who manages to clear this hump, and what that product will look like. - Steve Spalding
I hear ya Steve, we have been banging our heads off the wall with these issues for years now :) My head is starting to hurt! lol - Adrian Nadeau
"Writing about technology on the web is like building a Starbucks in Manhattan — it seems like a great idea until you look across the street." Nice. :) - Nathaniel Payne
Fabulous post, Steve. It's a message we've brought up ad nauseum on The Guidewire but the irony is, of course, that the mainstream isn't reading either one of our blogs. In an interview on 60 Minutes this weekend, Bruce Springsteen said something I can't get out of my head. "You have to make an audience care about your obsessions." I personally haven't figured out how to do that yet, but am somewhat comforted that none of us in the technosphere have. - Carla Thompson
I think a large part of it is making our obsessions more palatable. We are all saturated in information day in and day out, so we develop solutions to the problems that arise from that, "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." The result is that the best ideas I ever hear using social tech come from people who have just been introduced to it. - Steve Spalding
@Nate who knows, so many of them are shutting down it might not be such a bad plan afterall. ;) - Steve Spalding
Seth needs to reread his book Meatball Sunday! Is he pushing a pyramid skim? "Buy my book to join my tribe!" John Chow! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Wrong thread, Igor. ;) - Nathaniel Payne
Word. - Eric Rice
Great post. Mainstream is much bigger. Popular articles on FriendFeed can't usually get anywhere on Digg. - Mitchell Tsai
Even Digg is only a larger subset of "not mainstream." It has a lot of traffic, but I think sites like Drudge Report, DailyKos and Perez Hilton have orders of magnitude more -awareness-. We are very good at rallying numbers, but very bad at getting people to care. - Steve Spalding
Leverage: Do you need to reach everyone though? What about concentrating on movers & shakers (or whichever group interests you)? - Mitchell Tsai
You definitely don't need to reach everyone. The problem we suffer from is that movers and shakers are generally unwilling to -buy- the services that are being offered to them. I am less concerned with saturating mainstream markets than I am in creating services that meet the -needs- of mainstream markets (an enterprise software company is way more likely to be profitable than even the most popular social app) - Steve Spalding
Well done.. - Dave Peck
I don't view the "law of large numbers" as a "dirty little secret". I agree with you across the board though which is why I've never wasted any time chasing Digg or Stumble traffic. We just got a stable link from Drudge to TVbytheNumbers -- no branding, just "TV Ratings" (which makes a lot of sense for a few reasons). We didn't ask (never have communicated w/Drudge). It's not as much... more... - Robert Seidman
Great post. congrats - jonathan
Steve: How about concentrating just on "influencers" (not big movers & shakers, but people who are heavy networkers)? There was a marketing book (forget name) which said that "Old money" tends to hide info - my favorite hairdresser, vacation spot, etc..., but some types of "New money" are the guys who share their favorite tips around the golf club - cool car I got, great vacation spot, neat electronic toy, good business connection spot. - Mitchell Tsai
Targeted marketing. My favorite recent books are "Buzzmarketing" - Mark Hughes, 2008 http://amazon.com/Buzzmar... "Meatball Sundae" - Seth Godin, 2007 http://amazon.com/Meatbal... I think the quote comes from one of these, but not sure. - Mitchell Tsai
brilliant - yvons
Excellent post Steve, for a minute there I thought it had to do with fraud. - Mike Fruchter
Great points. In the past few years of writing my blog, I figured out that nobody cares about what I think is cool. But when I solve problems that plague others, ones which I personally might brush off or consider trivial, such as how to recover a lost password or use a spreadsheet to budget your money, the traffic pours in. - Tom Harrison
Mitchell, that's another good point. Especially when growing a product, but many times you are going to have to move past initial influencers to scale your income. - Steve Spalding
Steve: I think the cool web 2.0 idea is to have the *influencers* be part of your marketing team. It's a more-refined and friendly version of MLM. I'd rather have 100 other people do my selling, than try to sell everyone myself. - Mitchell Tsai
Good post Steve. I wrote something about this phenomenon this morning. The problem is both a lack of creativity on the entrepreneur side (lets use the free model everyone else uses in web 2.0) and on the demand side. The mainstream user doesn't need services the early adopter crowd over here gets all crazy about (including Friendfeed). It doesn't solve a problem, address a need, so people won't pay for it. It's dead simple really. Create something that produces user value, and the user will be happy to pay - Alexander van Elsas
fantastic article. So many good points and analogies. - Chieze Okoye
@Alexander Right on, and there are a bunch of problems out there just like that. While there were a lot of problems with the pre-bubble days, the one thing they did well was recognize how the web could help with real, brick and mortar problems. - Steve Spalding
http://www.patientslikeme.com/ is a good example of a company doing something useful, I think. - Meryn Stol
Very cool Meryn, thanks for passing this along. This is exactly the sort of application that made the web so interesting for me. - Steve Spalding
I loved this article. I was discussing Knol and data portability with a friend of mine last week and he informed me that he barely even uses facebook. This is both a challenge an an opportunity. The future lies with applications that are both ubiquitous and dead simple while adding real value to the lives of it's users. Facebook came close but the abundance of applications was both a... more... - Derick Valadao
Interesting concept, comparing effort to usage. How easy is it for someone to just "pick up" something like Friendfeed. I'd dare say it's harder than we might think. - Steve Spalding
I loved the final sentence "What should we do while we’re waiting? I don’t know, we could probably use another Google-killer." I'm starting to write a undergrad thesis about Data Portability and this article made me think a lot about the target of all these rumblings: will the Crowd (tm) ever care about Data Portability, will it ever realize its value or will the service providers implement it in such a subtle way that ordinary users won't even notice? - Francesco Levorato
Steve Rubel
Twitter is profiled in tomorrow's edition of USA Today http://tinyurl.com/676eub
Do FriendFeed people actually read USA today? - Nicholas Molnar
Great. Expect a wave of new users. Enough to introduce them to the Fail Whale? - Al Degutis from twhirl
twitter... what is twitter? - Noah David Simon
@Al Degutis - judging by the comments left by readers, there might not be many. - JA Castillo
Ha, I love the comments on the article. Thanks for pointing them out @JA Castillo - Andy Murdoch
Darren Rowse
I think it's quite amusing to watch internet marketing types jump on and hype up twitter as if it's the latest new thing.
Almost as amusing as mainstream media and those in the US Congress jumping on the twitter and blogging band wagon as if they discovered it. - Grant Griffiths from twhirl
Oh geez...it's so ridiculous. There is a package or something for wordpress that I came across that will automatically tweet your new posts...OMFG! how awesome! It's gonna bring your LOADS of traffic! - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
@unmarketing makes a good point. It will be the Internet marketing types who will totally screw up twitter by trying to monetize it. That is all we need on twitter is ads. - Grant Griffiths from twhirl
I'm not sure how internet marketers ALL got a bad name. There are crap ones and good ones. The good ones figure out how to actually keep good products and services around. - AJ Kohn
Just don't make the mistake of lumping all internet marketers together. There are some who understand the way Twitter works and don't abuse it at all, and then there are those who make the rest look bad. - David Risley
"Oh man this twitter is sooo HOT man you gotta try it out!" ha, ha! glad you could finally show up to "join the conversation" OMG did I just say that out loud?! - Susan Beebe
Internet's Tad
Anyone else noticing a LOT more spam coming through on gmail lately? I've had 3 or 4 viagra, etc ads today
Me too -- not just for today but for the past week. - Mitch Wagner
Totally.. its been picking up a lot lately - Dave Peck
its been ok for me I only got 1 this wk, about , I am not using my funds !! (. as if I have any )) - Peter Dawson
Yeah, a few weeks back i was getting none. Now i'm getting one or two a day. - Chris Dahl
C1@L1S FR33 R0L3X W@TCH3S M0RTG@GE5 - Josh
I'm seeing it a lot in my Yahoo mail recently. 419 scams and *growth* pills. - Lindsey is Fierce!
Jason Goldberg
The Scoble Effect
I met with the top 2 executives at one of the largest PR firms in the world today. Their advice for launching a product amounted to this: "Whether Robert Scoble likes your product or not means more than anything these days if you are trying to reach a techy first-mover audience." - Jason Goldberg
Which PR firm was this? And do you want me to send Scoble my first review of Social Median? I brought it up when we had dinner. :-) - Louis Gray
This is very telling, but concerning as well. Nothing against Robert Scoble, but should one man hold that much power in technology? - Rob Diana
plus michael arrington... - Pokai
I agree Rob. Nothing against Robert but he could have a personal bias in the space and it could hurt that product etc. - Adrian Nadeau
Rob Diana: It actually bothered me a bit. Bother in the sense of how strange a comment it is. - Jason Goldberg
Louis, Rob et al: we actually weren't discussing how to pitch socialmedian when this came up, it was actually a broader discussion around the state of social media, pr, and the news biz. They are trying to find/create the scoble equivalents now for other industries. - Jason Goldberg
Jason: I don't think this is true. Louis, we should join forces. Maybe someday we'd be as powerful as Walt Mossberg. :-) - Robert Scoble
Jason Goldberg: It does bother me also.. one person's opinion shouldn't decide your products fate... - Adrian Nadeau
Jason: truth be told, it bothers me a bit too, because there are hundreds of people who can make a product successful. I've never talked about Evernote before today and they had 30,000 new customers sign up this weekend. - Robert Scoble
TURKISH FF COMMUNITY: PLEASE READ THIS! ; ) ESPECIALLY WEBRAZZI.COM AUTHOR 'ARDA KUTSAL'. : )) - Erhan Erdogan
Who's to blame here? Not Scoble. - Chris Baskind
perception is surely part of the reality and vice versa. broader point is that old media is still very much trying to figure out the new world. old world they had speed dial into the 3-5 guys who mattered who were on long lead time deadlines. today they have scoble's and arrington's and mashable's etc. - Jason Goldberg
Chris Baskind: Definitely not, good point. - Adrian Nadeau
@Adrian, one thing I have never seen is Scoble have a bias besides hot new technology. - Rob Diana
Scoble's not to blame -- blame Canada. Scoble has power because people listen to him. People listen to him because he is often right, speaks from the heart. - Brian Sullivan
Plus, lots of things I've picked as hot have turned out to be failures, or, at least, not home runs. - Robert Scoble
No - what they really should be looking at is what us FF'ers think about their product. Let all of us play with it and we'll give our aggregate opinion. Scobez is usually right on the money, but sometimes even he can miss a diamond in the rough... - Internet's Tad
Robert: they're probably reading this too :) lol - Jason Goldberg
Brian: Good idea. Bloody Canadians, with their clean streets and sense of social justice. - Chris Baskind
@Rob Diana That's good to know. - Adrian Nadeau
Is that like the Butterfly Effect? - Dayngr
Since I have the Scoble effect, go sign up for Evernote. Damn, that's cool. Take a picture of something with text in it and it recognizes the text and lets you search for it. I want to put all my business cards into this! - Robert Scoble
I agree, if you have a consumer product you need the Scoblizer! - Greer Trice
Scoble: what's most interesting is that it goes to show that even in the new world, content is king. It's not just that you have a following, it's that you have created the content which galvanizes the following and keeps them following. - Jason Goldberg
I remember experiencing this phemonenon first hand: I received 20-30 Twitter follows in one day. What had happened? I checked Seesmic and found that @scobelizer had mentioned my name. I had been Scobled. - Steve Lynch
Jason: the content comes from getting access, which I greatly appreciate everyone here for connecting me to interesting people and interesting companies. - Robert Scoble
Robert wont write about me 'cause i was a bitch about video comments. (that's me trying to be sarcastic robert, and probably landing flat). ;-) - Jason Goldberg
Jason: I don't even remember you doing that. What you want me to see of yours? - Robert Scoble
and btw. FriendFeed rocks with the pace of this discussion. Fantastic. - Jason Goldberg
Robert (and anyone/everyone else for that matter). We're less than 2 weeks from going public with http://www.socialmedian.com. Been in private invite only alpha since April. You can use invite code = nearlybeta to check it out before release. - Jason Goldberg
Scoble is the reason I joined Facebook and the reason I told all my friends they HAD to get an account. He's also the reason I'm here (on FF) as well - but I can't convince a single friend to climb aboard - none of them trust me now. - James Hull
BTW. as pat of this conversation with said PR agency execs, we also had an interesting discussion around finding the scoble's of politics, sports, etc. And especially the scoble's of India, UK, china, etc. - Jason Goldberg
Related, there's an interesting post on FF today about listing who the most "popular" friends are to follow. I don't understand what the harm there is? Isn't part of the fun/value of this following the Newsmakers? We just go ahead an put a link on the homepage to the most popular Newsmakers on socialmedian. http://www.socialmedian.com/users... - Jason Goldberg
what would be cool, would be to see something similar to the soon-to-be released study by the University of Miami and USC that correlates a company’s stock performance with reviews of its products by Walt Mossberg of the WSJ (http://bit.ly/24VfTx), but Scoble v Arrington V Mossberg. kind of apples and oranges, but still fun - Christian Anderson
would be fun to see a scoble, arrington, mashable, etc. post and adhere to a not private pitch policy for a few weeks and see how it goes. All pitches must be in public on a blog post, FF, or tweet. Whadya think? - Jason Goldberg
Scoble has many followers and is an incredible channel to the tech-savvy, early adopter audience, but he only covers topics he considers to be cool and interesting. Nothing wrong with that, but there are still a lot of important tech issues and product areas that Scoble does not cover. - wrecks
wrecks: yup, the industry is bigger than any one person now. It's why I still recommend reading http://www.techmeme.com and http://news.google.com and participating in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
What Robert has that the PR people crave is "Trust Equity", built over time. Same with Mossberg. Readers believe they will give straight appraisals of products and services and not be swayed by spin/swag. - Sprague D
BTW. I would love anyone to write their review of socialmedian on FriendFeed so we can all publicly discuss it. Tell everyone what you like and don't like. Hell, give us hell even. Better the feedback the more we can learn and try to make it better. - Jason Goldberg
The beauty of the Scoble effect is that even your pitch is broadcast to a huge user group, especially if he responds, all those followers do to. - Jason Kintzler
By the way Jason, I'm planning to write about SocialMedian's PR implications on PitchEngine...Stay Tuned! - Jason Kintzler
Its due to hard work on the part of the Scobleizer, Congrats. - Capn' One Eye - adrift
Loic Le Meur
Note to self: I parked my car at F23 in SFO airport.
Note to self: car available for easy swiping at F23 in SFO airport. :) - Jeremy Toeman
What colour? - Roland Hesz
Cool ! Who wants a Q7 ? - Julien Gomez
Black w/ a seesmic license plate - Xavier Moisant from twhirl
forgot to say where the keys are Loic ! - Guillaume
has there already be a discussion on Loïc driving a Q7 in here or somewhere ? I thought digital entrepreneurs hadan ecological conscience and were all driving Priuses ;) - petitesphrases
I should do that next time. Just in case I forget - Deepak Singh
On my way there now to steal it and hold it for ransom! jk - Dan Delphin from twhirl
petites, with 3 kids unfortunately there is not much choice, the Lexus Hybrid is too small for us! - Loic Le Meur
Not a bad idea. - robb enger from Alert Thingy
Dang..your paying to much to park at airport. I use Anza Park and Ride.. Seesmic must be doing well - Dave Peck
how about a small diesel minivan with microcarbon footprint ? ;) - petitesphrases
or a hummer - mat
What's the distance between work and your home? Segway sure is excellent. To rare in France. - Eric Sausse from twhirl
Dave Winer
Open message to Scoble. Do you know any young Scobles? :-)
We want to hire a Scoble-clone at bit.ly to camp out on the net and soak up ideas and feed them back to the team and vice versa. There's more to the job than bit.ly. I keep telling the guys we need a Scoble. Know any?? :-) - Dave Winer
Dave: If you're serious I have an idea for you. - Jason Goldberg
Yes I am serious. - Dave Winer
The young Scoble who would be appropriate for this is too busy playing with his new iPhone 3G and WoW. :-) - Robert Scoble
Patrick is a little too young I'm afraid. But not much too young. In a few years. - Dave Winer
Ahh. In that case you're looking for Louis Gray. ;-) - Robert Scoble
Or me. Dave - you remember Norbert Mikula? You and I met when I worked for him back in '99ish. D or @ me if interested. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@Dave - can i put my services forward? I'm not a young Scoble by any means - i doubt one exists....and i'm not an internet celebrity (yet) :). But with regard to soaking up ideas, listening round the clock & feeding them back. I could ensure I knock that out of the ballpark for you. It's essentially what I do for a living - Zee.
Brian, since FF doesn't have profiles, you gotta paste in a link to a backgrounder. But that's a bad sign, I'm looking for someone who I don't have to coach in the art of repping a product on the net, someone who already knows what to do. - Dave Winer
Already I'm glad I asked this question. Not only are we looking for help, it's important to understand how we market in 2008 and into 2009. Scoble blazed a trail for sure. Now where do we go from here? As we've been brainstorming it, I'd like someone who also is a programmer, who can help build the software, but is outwardly focused. Most programmers aren't. The ones who like users are the ones I seek. - Dave Winer
As long as they don't sing. . . - Dean Barnett
Dave: I'd look at what Gary Vaynerchuk is doing. http://www.winelibrary.tv -- he's the most brilliant marketer -- by far -- on the Internet today. Get someone with 1/8th his skills and you got a winner. - Robert Scoble
Interesting that products and services need just a regular word-o-mouth type digital marketer now and that this is normal/standard. - David Cohn
Yup, I agree about Gary. It's hard not to be involved in his marketing, it's everywhere. And that's where you want to be. :-) - Dave Winer
What's "young" to you, Dave? 16? 21? - Zach Flauaus
http://blog.infinitelymeta.com (recent) Old school - W3C AC Rep - sat on SOAP 1.1 , WSDL, ebXML, UDDI, OASIS, etc. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
What's wrong with singing? I like singing! http://mp3.morningcoffeenotes.com/cnMay14... - Dave Winer
@Scoble - you've met me several times. what says you? curious. @dave - yeah - what's young to you? I'm not 21. lol - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I think I have scoble potential. Where do you apply? On a more serious note though, louis gets my vote. - Corvida
To be fair, Gary Veynerchuk is bloody awesome. - Zee.
Sounds like it;s time to meet Louis. Is he in the Bay Area? - Dave Winer
I am wondering with @zachflauaus. How young is young? - Matt Pippen
Dave: yes, Louis is local, but his wife just had twins so might be hard to get out of the house. - Robert Scoble
Someone with both superior technical and superior business skills is a rare find. Either you have a person with only one of these skills, or someone with middling tech/business skills. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Brian gets my vote. So does Corvida. Both are always participating in the community (and are well liked) and that's the #1 ingredient that Dave needs here. - Robert Scoble
Dave: send me a DM on twitter. I have a good idea for you. - Jason Goldberg
To my credit (or maybe not) I hired Scoble in the 90s so I saw the potential of Scoble-style marketing pretty early. Young is a spiritual thing, not looking for a specific age, but Patrick is just starting high school and he's a great guy, but still has to get his education. I've known him since he was a baby, and I'd never interfere with that. - Dave Winer
@Dave - I'm in SFOish area till Weds. If you want to meet, I'm game. Your call. PS - thanks Robert for the kind words. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Good point, Ontario. I've been blessed enough to be able to make my living from having that exact mix. A socially-capable geek, who can also run an no-need-to-sleep business meeting? Say it ain't so! - Bradley McSpinn
Am I too late to apply? - Mona Nomura
Dave: you hired me in 2001, right before 9/11. :-) -- I hired Dave in the 1990s to speak at our Web conferences. - Robert Scoble
I would like to think the person your looking for doesn't even know they are the one.They are on the web doing something they feel passionate about and love, just cause.. end deep thought - Dave Peck
Just awesome Britney. Who is "the one"? :P - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I think Winer in a sense, passed on the torch to Scoble ... I know Dave hasn't gone anywhere and won't either - John Blanton from twhirl
Scoble, okay now I remember. Actually I spoke at your conf in New Orleans in late 2000. I still tell people you were already blogging at the time, just using email. Most of your speakers probably thought you were a PITA but I thought you were visionary. - Dave Winer
My ears are burning. :-) - Louis Gray
Louis -- Scoble said you're a Young Scoble. That's a high compliment. Are you in teh Bay Area? (Note, I'm about to sign off for the night, so may not respond until morning). - Dave Winer
C'mon Louis. Go play with the twins and get off socnets for a while. LOL :) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
No way you can clone Scoble. He is one of a kind. But if you're going to try, FF is the right hunting grounds. - Christian Anderson from fftogo
Louis: wait until you see what I said about you over on my blog. - Robert Scoble
Now I'm wishing I was 20 yrs younger...;) But seriously, there are some great names already thrown out in this thread. The problem I have is that most of the "young Scobles" are already deluged with projects... The names I come up with immediately are so busy already doing stuff like that, it would be hard to lure them away from their present obsessions. - Lucretia Pruitt
I hope you do talk to Louis. - Ross McKillop
Dave - Scoble replicating technology is still in the works. In the mean time tell me where to sign. - Vic Podcaster
I do. His name is Andrew Hyde from Boulder, CO (Startup Weekend founder). I'm convinced we'll all one day work for him. - Hillary Hartley
Andrew is also the guy behind VC Wear - brilliant. And, I agree with Britney Mason, FTR. - Hillary Hartley
Great idea! If we can identify potential A-listers early we can stop their reality-distorting effects before they start. - Jason Carreira
I second Louis Gray... - Jesse Stay
LG - Yuvi
Dave, I'm pretty easy to reach. I live in Sunnyvale and attended Cal. Cell phone is 408 646 2759. E-mail: louisgray@mac.com. Call anytime. - Louis Gray
Daniel Brusilovsky at Qik - dave mcclure
that's my dream job. To be the internet presence for a cool company and to take their users' ideas, suggestions, criticisms, values, hopes, dreams, etc and help help make them a reality by organizing them and getting them to the right people to make it happen. - David Silvernail
@davemcclure: Daniel Brusilovsky is a delight and we are not giving him up anytime soon. :-) - Jackie Danicki
Daniel Brusilovski is definitely someone to watch - that kid is awesome! Just wish we could get him on FF... - Jesse Stay from twhirl
Louis Gray
Double cute! - sergiooo
Great pic's! - Dan Boggs
Is it just me, or are all baby clothes in either FriendFeed or Twitter colors? I was noticing in my baby boy's clothes today that I had half of web 2.0 in his wardrobe. - Jesse Stay
Sweet. Totally tiny people. - John Samuelson
:) - mhmazidi
Wonderful photos. Congrats and enjoy! - Larry Huffman
yeah it is all nice and happy now - give it 12 months and the inner demon comes out... Nice time though, when they are small and cute :) Enjoy it. - Dave Gray
The best part at this age is when they fall asleep on your chest. - Russellreno
Looks like Sarah is trying to push Matt away... saying "Hey dude! We are so out of the womb! Shove over!!" - Yolanda
I wuv babies! - Shey, Jamaican of FF
that is really quite lovely, louis. those early days with you daughter will be with you two for the all your lives. - ryan from fftogo
awwww how adorable! - Jessica
I think the baby sleeping on my chest thing was one of my favorite moments when we had small babies in our family. Thanks for sharing. - Jeremy Kunz
Sweet pics. - John McCrea
how adorable..your little ones are soooo cute.. thanks for sharing! - MiaD
sooo cute! - Sarah Perez
Mike Fruchter
What are the social media applications you use the most?
this - FF, GReader, Flickr, Twitter, Facebook - Andrew Smith
Please list your top 5. - Mike Fruchter
FriendFeed, Twitter, Facebook. That's pretty much it these days, and my Twitter usage has been going down lately. - Nathaniel Payne
FriendFeed, GReader, Flickr, del.icio.us, Twitter. - Ha3rvey (more more more)
FriendFeed, Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook (in that order) - Mansi Bhatia
FF, GReader, Facebook (very little) is pretty much all I use anymore. - John Duff
GReader, GMail, FF - Stefan Hayden
FriendFeed, GReader, StumbleUpon, del.icio.us, Twitter. - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Flickr, FriendFeed, GReader, Mento, Facebook - JA Castillo
FF, Twitter, Google Reader, Digg, StumbleUpon, Last.fm, Feedly - Patrick Jordan
I'll have to agree with Nathaniel. FriendFeed, Twitter, and Facebook are all I use anymore. - James Mowery from twhirl
FriendFeed, Mento, Twitter, GReader, Linkedin (end of the list is toss up between LinkedIn, Facebook and maybe Flickr/Picassa and Like.Fm) - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
FF, Google Reader/Feedly/Toluu, Ping.FM... that's pretty much it - Bwana ☠
FF, Flickr, Facebook (less and less), Twitter (barely) - Justin Korn
Friendfeed, Twitter, GReader, Facebook, and a bunch that score equally - Charlie Anzman
delicious, Greader, netvibes, facebook, vimeo.. plus the phenomenal FF. - ''a_a@FF''
Plaxo Pulse, FriendFeed, Summize, Twitter - John McCrea
GReader, GMail, FriendFeed, Socialthing, Facebook - Nathan Reale
FriendFeed, Google Reader, wordpress.com, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook - Hutch Carpenter
I didn't know GReader qualified as a social media application -- never thought of it that way. I guess because it's not as interactive. But since it seems to be a valid entry on the list, +1 for me, too. - Mansi Bhatia
friendFeed, Twitter, Facebook - Dave Peck
Google Reader, FriendFeed, Twitter, Digg, del.icio.us, Facebook, Flickr. Everything else are supporting apps and blogging tools to distribute the information to other networks like Plaxo and Tumblr. - Glenn Batuyong from twhirl
twitter, friendfeed, Google Reader, Plurk, and various blogs - Ian May from twhirl
Flickr, FF, Google Reader, Facebook, Zooomr - Tom Harrison
FF, GReader(using rss meme and feedly makes this more social), Flickr, del.icio.us, tumblr, hypemachine - Rafael Robayna
Google Reader, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr - Darryl
I never even thought of Flickr, I've used it to store my better photographic efforts for so long - Ian May from twhirl
Google Reader, Friendfeed, Del.icio.us - Nick Dominguez
FF (now with mionews), Twitter (via Twhirl), Flickr and now it seems I should move from Bloglines beta over to Greader <grin> - Cheryl Allin
currently, Gtalk, Plurk, Twitter, FriendFeed, Greader. - Jansen Lu
Twitter, Friendfeed, AIM, Google Reader - Eric Berlin
Twitter, Friendfeed, Google Reader, Livejournal, Flickr - Morton Fox
FF, Twitter, BKite, Feedley, Last.fm - Jay Martin
Twitter, FriendFeed, del.icio.us, Flickr, Google Reader. And sometimes Facebook. - Mack D. Male
Google Reader, FriendFeed, del.icio.us, Twitter, Facebook - Ron Emrick
1) Friendfeed 2) Digsby 3)Twitter 4) RSS/G Reader 5) Wordpress - Mike Fruchter
ff, last.fm, delicious, GReader, flickr - Trent Olson
FF, twitter, seesmic (very little), GReader, - Fred from twhirl
Friendfeed, Flickr, Del.icio.us - ǝuǝƃnǝ
Twitter, FriendFeed, LinkedIn, Google Reader, WordPress (My blog "StaffBytes") - Geoff Peterson
Twitter, FriendFeed, Delicious, Google Reader, WordPress, Flickr - andy brudtkuhl
Facebook, LinkedIn, FF, Google Reader and Reddit. - Jonathon
FriendFeed, Facebook, LiveJournal (old school!) - MegvMeg
Friendfeed - Anne Bouey
FriendFeed - Mike Reynolds
FF, Twitter, Flickr, del.icio.us, Upcoming, Brightkite, Last.fm, Pandora, UStream - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Friendfeed - RAPatton
FriendFeed, Flickr, Zooomr mostly. - Thomas Hawk
1) Friendfeed 2) Twitter 3) Meebo/Digsby 4) Google Reader 5) Facebook - Hao Chen
friendfeed, google reader, stumbleupon... - Alessandro
Google Reader, Zooomr, Flickr, FriendFeed, Blogger - Jeff P. Henderson
FF, GReader, Last.fm, Flickr, Twitter, Youtube - Jason Toney
FF, GReader, Flickr, Youtube, and my poor, broken, untouched-since-2005 JournURL - Roger Benningfield
Friendfeed, Google Reader, Twitter, Facebook, Last.fm, Blogger... - Joe Dawson
let see FF, GReader, Flickr, Diigo, Twitter, Last.fm, Disqus, Toluu - (jeff)isageek
Twitter, FriendFeed, MySpace, FaceBook, YouTube - Eric Hamilton
twitter/tweetdeck, friendfeed, digg, google reader, facebook (in that order) - Chris Harris
Twitter, FF, Facebook, Email (Gmail +.Mac) - Tony
Twitter,FriendFeed,TechMeme - Igor Poltavskiy
In no particular order: Facebook, Flickr, del.icio.us, Google Reader and Twitter. Digg and FriendFeed are close, though. - Joyce Garcia
Robert Seidman
Official Google Blog: Introduction to Google Ranking - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008...
"No discussion of Google's ranking would be complete without asking the common - but misguided! :) - question: "Does Google manually edit its results?" Let me just answer that with our third philosophy: no manual intervention. In our view, the web is built by people. You are the ones creating pages and linking to pages. We are using all this human contribution through our algorithms. The final ordering of the results is decided by our algorithms using the contributions of the greater Internet community, not manually by us. We believe that the subjective judgment of any individual is, well ... subjective, and information distilled by our algorithms from the vast amount of human knowledge encoded in the web pages and their links is better than individual subjectivity." - Robert Seidman from Bookmarklet
Andrew Baron
I'm Not Here to Make Friends! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I'm Not Here to Make Friends!
Play
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA best video ever! here we are trying to get 82,000,000 friends on facebook and these people don't care about real friends :) - Allen Stern
I feel sorry for those guys! - Sarah Austin
"I just want to be friends." - l0ckergn0me
dont worry sarah i am your friend - Allen Stern
The other great reality show cliche is when they say "I won't talk behind your - I'll just say it straight to your face". Brutal honesty is not always a good thing ;-( - jeremy ettinghausen
Still crackin up over the title of this as it appears to people on FF. When you first read it, you're like WTF!? - Andrew Baron
Why can't we be friends? - Sean-Michael Robinson
Is it sad when you recognize a lot of these people? - Hao Chen
This kind of a meme is called a "Supercut" a re-edited run like this full of a single phrase. A common type of supercut will include the same actor or person saying the same words over and over throughout a film or series of films and appearances. - Andrew Baron
@Jason, yeah, they lost at Life. - LogEx
But im on friendfeed to make friends.... is that wrong? - Dave Peck
Oh, come on, they missed "MILF Island"! - Lon Harris from twhirl
Reminds me a lot of Dave Winer (the Loren Feldman puppet that is) - Andrew Fielding
Thinking about Whodini's song - Friends http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Phillip Jeffrey
I'm here to be blocked. and I do it well - Noah David Simon
just shared this with some american friends in china in case they think they've been missing out on good TV. this sums it up. heh. - Christine Lu
Britney: I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to be your friend. :-) - Robert Scoble
Thanks Christine - I only recognized "The Apprentice." Now heading back into my lair. - sage brennan
How sad am I that I recognize 90% of those shows. - Adrienne Van Houten
there's a show called "MILF Island?!?" Does the "F" stand for "Friend?"' - Karim
Mothers I'd Like to Fire? - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Reference to the awesome "30 Rock" episode that references the "not here to make friends" phenomenon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Lon Harris from twhirl
Funny *and* depressing! - Kirby Ferguson
"mothers I'd like to Friend/Follow" ok, that's hilarious, I'm taking it and running with itelsewhere - Doug Haslam from twhirl
I'm not here to make friends. - David Weiner
Cool vid, Reality Sucks :-) - Majento
I'm not on FF to make Friends. - Jay Martin
@Jay - does that mean you are on FF to win? - sage brennan
though they do seem to be the type who will 'add friends' - Mrinal Desai
Making friends is like a Turing test for what is reality and not - Ross Mayfield
Jason Calacanis
please forgive a little self promotion... nice ink: Google killer? | Australian Anthill Magazine - http://www.anthillonline.com/article...
"He’s a martial arts expert, web celebrity, podcaster, insomniac – and he is trying to develop a search engine to tempt people away from Google. The latter, of course, is no mean feat. It’s a five-year plan and Jason Calacanis is one year into his journey. When one hears of a start-up trying to take on the behemoth of search, Google, a little scepticism is to be expected. But when you talk to Calacanis, you think that maybe, just maybe, he might even pull it off." - Jason Calacanis from Bookmarklet
Very nice, but no apologies for self promotion! - David
Nice. I don't think (personally) Mahalo is a Google killer. I use both search engines and, both for different purposes. I could definitely see people using the two of them together. - Candace
agree... we're not trying to kill google. we're trying to work with google, get ranked as one of the top 20 pages for a LARGE number of topics.... we're more like the wikipedia with trusted links. - Jason Calacanis
mahalo was awesome as a GTA4 guide... even after the videos got taken down... though dear god those video walk throughs were invaluable. I would pay a (small) fee for them. - Stefan Hayden
Hey we all promote! Well done! - Dave Peck
Vincent Ferrari: if you're using it like that you've had your "mahalo moment" -- the moment when you realized the value of scanable wikipedia page + curated results. - Jason Calacanis
what's wrong with frikkin' self promotion .. .you all really think Jason should wait for someone else to do his promotion of Mahalo for him? lmao ... pathetic - John Blanton
Bwana ☠
Gonna bring in identi.ca to my stream. Might be a bit much. Really wish FF would support it natively, as people may hide ALL my blog posts, which I don't want.
I too would like identi.ca support, I might move over from Twitter, I don't mind identi.ca - Aaron Myers
Out of curiosity, what draws you guys to identi.ca? - Evan Sims
I'm watching it very closely since its open sourced and based on an OMB standard. I expect to see both laconica and OMB evolve to a much more robust state than its currently in. I also expect to see many other projects evolve which are similar in nature. I'm hoping they all use the OMB standard or a variant of it. - Bwana ☠
I was just going to ask how that can be accomplished, Bwana, since there is no option to add identi.ca to FF. - JCLeftie
Could this really be the twitter killer? Identi.ca? - Dave Peck
Evan - It's a model for a distributed & federated Twitter. Plus it's open source. That is why I see it as important. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Cool. I did this before, then removed it. I'm becoming less of a fan of microblogs on FF. Too much noise, not enough benefit. - Hao Chen
Jeremiah Owyang
Fast Company: 6 Jobs that will be extinct in 2016. Number Six? "BLOGGERS" quick no one tell @scobleizer http://www.fastcompany.com/multime... shhh! ;)
Bloggers willl be just writers. They always were. It's a platform. - Francine Hardaway
I humbly suggest that editors who force me to click on seven different pages to read an article SHOULD be extinct. - Mack D. Male
Blogging is already extinct. - Robert Scoble
He'll be retired by then. - Cem Catikkas
No more software engineers in 2016? Are these guys on crack? - Gavin
@Gavin, even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank! - Sprague D
1999 called, they want their horrible navigation back. FC really needs to improve the usability of their site. - Devlin Dunsmore from twhirl
concur with Devlin, awful navigation. Ironic though that FC is criticizing bloggers for making snarky comments when the commentary they are making is snarky itself - Duncan Riley
Blogging is a 'job'? Who knew... :) RT http://tinyurl.com/52ss4v - Rotkäpchen
Fitting that Scoble gets to captain the Titanic once again. He's probably seeing this on his IPhone at the helm... - Mark Forman
Rokapchen Blogging is only a job if you get paid...so I hear. ;) - Jeremiah Owyang
Would Scoble blog if on the Titantic? - Fred Grott
I thought blogs died 2 years ago or something. read that on a blog somewhere. - David Wescott
This is getting ridiculous. - Shawn Farner from twhirl
I think there's a difference btw blogs dying and having the title blogger. blogging is already integrated into so many different job functions. Who knows, in 2016 the term blogger could be extinct because it will be synonamous with reporter, or marketer, or CEO... - Adam
I blog for my a particular constituency of my company's market; just started doing it, someone had to - Shannon
There will always be jobs for people who author content, though the title "Blogger" may be subsumed into various roles. Truly professional bloggers (no, not really an oxymoron) may simply be thought of as writers, analysts or journalists, while the rest of us will remain the amateur pundits we are today. - Barry Graubart
I've never been paid for it, but plenty of paying jobs have come out of it. - Rick Grant
I think the future holds more jobs to become remote, then corporate, we're already seeing this, and it saves corporation tons of money, including the employee...example > employee travel w/ this gas situation - petes2cents.com
My blogging and social networking participation doesn't appear in my job description, yet it has absolutely contributed to the success of my business. I spend an hour a day on it, and the payback is more than any other hour of the day in terms of direct/indirect contact with my customers. - Ed Brill
I just got the VP at my company into blogging and he's hooked. He's getting feedback from customer's in the form of comments and is gaining leads from search results. I don't think blogging will die in eight years. - Shawn Farner from twhirl
Content creation will always exist and connecting with community never stops. I blog because I want to and its had big benefits on my visibility inside and outside of the company. - Alex
You can have blogging as a job? - Dave Peck
lol @ Britney - Shawn Farner from twhirl
even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank! -----I can't keep laughing! :P - Jia Liu
Chris Brogan
Using Social Media for Social Good - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
If you were serious about using Social Media for Social Good I wouldn't think you would sit on Feldman's "Council". Juvenile mean kids. - Oldengrey (Jay)
Jay- excellent rebuttal !! - Peter Dawson
My plan originally was that I'd be an ally on the inside. I'm planning to rescind at this point. - Chris Brogan
Chris, it would be kewl if you rescind and make a post on why you are rescinding. if you want to send a msg out, then do it .. its your choice to do something good - Peter Dawson
I understand completely Chris, no hard feelings I will remove your name from the council. - loren feldman
Chris, you and the rest of the council (plus Loren and Shel) could use the opportunity of the July 25 event to do some good. http://broadcasting-brain.com/2008... - Mark Dykeman
fwiw, I dont like whats happened, but I do tip my hit to Loren. Why ? like he said, this is an excellent case study on social havoc trending. These trends, could either make or break a person and there inter-twingging of other social objects, just makes the case more interesting..aka dave W, Scobles, chris all throwing in different spanners into the works. The truth is Shel and Loren had a problem, but bloggers all picked sides and then it become a blowout blogfight ! - Peter Dawson
Chris, thanks for doing the right thing. - Oldengrey (Jay)
Chris, thanks for doing the right thing. I won't be attending the Kangeroo Court. Either Loren is going to give me the domain name back or he isn't. - shelisrael1
You are a force for good - Dave Peck
Thanks, Loren, too. Believe it or not, I do see both angles and understand that some of this will be actual case study material in social computing. Probably not personally lovely for anyone involved. (Not probably: definitely), but I understand the perspective. - Chris Brogan
Berk D. Demir
Britney Mason - Social Media, Social Networking and Online Community Builder - http://www.linkedin.com/in...
Specialties: Podcasting, Social Networking, Virtual Worlds, Social Media,Blogs, New Media, Web 2.0, Online Community Manager - Berk D. Demir
"Britney Mason’s Honors: Speaker at Virtual Worlds 2007, Featured profile on Dec 2007 MSNBC tv show BusinessNation for work in Virtual Worlds & Social Networking Featured user on Twitter.com, Utterz.com, PodShow.com among others Featured on May 2008 CNBC show Playing To Win: Inside The Video Game Industry " - Erhan Erdogan
Mark Trapp
I'm obviously behind the times. When did Fake Steve Jobs become Fake Jerry Yang? And isn't the reference to Facebook promotion by Scoble dated? - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
OMG, I laughed until I cried. And the sad state of affairs was that, in my head, there was a Scoble puppet reading that letter aloud. FRIENDFEED! - Cyndy
I thought he was slowly going downhill, but with the guest blogging, he's hit his stride again. So very wrong, but so very hilarious. - Mark Trapp
Fake Steve Jobs is funny. - Robert Scoble
"Yes it's disjointed and rambling and even incoherent but it rings true and comes across as honest and transparent when when it's totally not." - Eric Hamilton
Way funny :) - Dave Peck
the truth is even I can't save Yang. Last one to leave Yahoo please turn out the lights. - Robert Scoble
Robert - loving your reaction to this. =) - Eric Hamilton
Funny stuff. Even funnier because it might be good advice. - Karim
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