Interested in art, technology, people, and the combination of them. I sometimes post in French here/Mon flux en français : http://friendfeed.com/bromefr
Do we really need yet another windowing system on top of a Linux kernel?
- Brome
I don't care about kernel & Co. We need powerful Web apps. I'm soooo tired of downloading and updating software to edit docs, manage my music, video, external devices, etc.
- Jérôme Flipo
The thing is, apps are not everything. Functionalities built in the OS can have a huge importance for the end user (and the developers as well). We'll see what comes out of this project, but it'll need a lot of mojo to make me stop using OS X.
- Brome
I'm on OS X since June 18 (after many years on XP). I may not like it, but above all, I don't really "use" it: I use Firefox, Firefox, Firefox, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, iTunes, VLC and Lightroom. Now, I want to edit and manage everything in the browser (no update, no download, full power to the websites). I know that what http://code.google.com/p... is for, but so many experts said that adding this layer on top of an old OS was plain stupid. That's why I'm very interested in Chrome OS.
- Jérôme Flipo
OS is 'all'.. (security, network management etc..). And a good windowing system can impact even on developer's creativity..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Question is: why does Google choosed to build another Linux distribution, instead of building Chrome on top of another one ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
My favorite feature in OS X is Spotlight. Spotlight does exactly what FF's real-time search does, but for your file system. I love that feature and I don't want to give it up. The problem is that it has to be built directly on the file system. Not in the browser. Not even in the OS, but at a lower level.
- Brome
Brome: are you sure? Where did you read that?
- Marcos Marado
I think google is doing what linux developers never manage to (sorry guys...) : make a simple alternative to windows for non-geeks people (i mean : user-orientated). Who could do that better than google ?
- Stanislas Jourdan
Google Chrome OS will only host WebApps, which is, by design, a huge limitation: how will you play your favorites divx, transfer your mp3's etc ?
- BobbySponge
from IM
Bobby, who said "only webapps"? And why can't a browser do with some good NaCl technology?
- Jérôme Flipo
Unfortunately, the google blog suggests it very clearly: google doesn't want to take care of third party native apps (as rythmbox or amarok, or other wonderful Linux apps). And native web app wouldn't simplify application developpement at all. Imagine that google wants to replace a media player like Amarok w/ a native web app: what's the difference ? changing the GUI, re-using the core...
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- BobbySponge
Looks like they sort of want to kill the desktop apps. May be a good thing. Well, many web apps can work offline now (Google Docs or GMail for instance) so maybe we need to change the way we look at applications, and consider them mainly as webapps that are also able to work offline when we're not connected.
- Brome
Google realized that most users (such as my mother for example) only use the web side of the computer. Reading news, posting photos, sending mails, listening to music via deezer or spotify... In a way, many of them use computers as thin clients. Google Os intend to give them a perfect Os without technical related issues. Ok, we DO need filesystem oriented apps and many other things. Does my mother or any non-geek else need to know about the way all that stuff runs ?
- DAL
I really don't think Google is just releasing yet another Linux distro. I think they're serious about using the browser as a platform, and Chrome itself will be the GUI, with Native Client as the API.
- Victor Ganata
Chrome as GUI ? Prepare to have much more memory than 2 Go
- DAL
DAL, does Chrome use that much memory? I ran some tests and found that it used a little less memory than Firefox or Safari. I didn't compare them to Opera because, well, it was supposed to be a serious test.
- Brome
from email
Lol. Chrome is using one thread by tab. Memory usage goes critical as you open more tabs. (maybe a bit like firefox). For example, I have 3 tabs opened yet : start tab, gmail and FF. Chrome uses over 110 Mo for now... Maybe a new test is necessary.
- DAL
from IM
So, my previous test was running under XP. Let's try another thing : (not a serious test). I am on a Edubuntu 8.04, firefox running with 3 static tabs : 101 Mo. We need indeed a more relevant and serious test.
- DAL
Ok, DAL. But if you open like 30 tabs in each browser and close them, Chrome will give back the unused memory after it's killed the process, whereas Firefox tends not to be so nice.
- Brome
from email
BobbySponge: media applications similar to amarok or rhythmbox can be run in-browser using javascript or flash, and the files may be web-based similar to pandora or last.fm music players
- Mike Chelen
Mike: javascript or flash could run heavy apps like Amarok, so we could imagine having a kind of media framework, a piece of Amarok, running locally and a web app driving the framework, the media files located online ? is that what you mean ?
- BobbySponge
from IM
Thank you Derrick! I bought it at a brit shop at Japan Expo ( http://terratag.com ). They had many shirts with mechas on it, but I really loved the vintage comics look of this one.
- Brome
Bamber surprised everyone with his fluency in French. He said he used to watch the original series on french TV when he was a child and lived in Paris.
- Brome
from iPhone
Ben, on le prend comme on veut mais bon, Indy, il est pas près de revenir non plus hein ... Et puis, vous en connaissez, vous, des répliques de "Raiders ..." ?
- DAL
from IM
"Ce qui compte ce n'est pas l'âge, c'est le kilométrage" "à ce chiffre, ajouter un kadham pour honorer les dieux", "mauvaises, ces dates" "visitez les égoûts du coin", "c'est magnifique !", "des serpents... pourquoi a-t-il fallu que ce soit des serpents ?", "une armée qui se ferait précéder de l'arche... serait invincible"
- Brome
sclair ya moins de phrases cultes ds l'arche perdue
- BobbySponge
from IM
DAL, comment ça Indy ne dit pas "I'll be back" ? Extrait du script : MARION:"You word, huh?" (Indy nods) "Just like you said you'd be back last time? That was your word too." - INDY:"I'm back, aren't I?"
- Brome
spas valide: Terminator dit "I'll be back" et c tout et puis il leur défonce tous la gueule ... c clairement différent
- BobbySponge
from IM
"Come with me if you want to live"
- BobbySponge
from IM
non non, ds le 1 aussi (IMDB est ton ami): Kyle Reese: Come with me if you want to live
- BobbySponge
from IM
Ha oui ! Mais là, c'est Reese, forcément. Ok.
- Brome
Quoi ?!? départager Les aventurier et Terminator ?!?ça jamais, plutôt manger mon Fedora et passer au pilon ! Bon, je vais chercher mon fouet, bougez pas ! I'll be back !..later..
- lotre demedeu
"The biggest festival of Japanese culture and entertainment in France and Europe blows its 10 candles this year. For the occasion, Japan Expo is cooking you a program full of surprises and animations! Enjoy!"
- Brome
from Bookmarklet
As you may know, manga and anime are very popular in France, and the Japan Expo is the biggest french convention focused on, but not limited to, manga, anime and Japanese culture. I've been attending it since 2006 and I love it, because it's also open to other cultures (US and european comics, heroic fantasy, bollywood, ...).
- Brome
The FFS-01 box has been posted to Simon this morning! Another segment turns green on the map. Here is a picture of Stanley watching the whole town of Bar-le-Duc:
I'd also like to thank my friend DAL for participating to our cause by donating a small bottle (we call it a "mignonette" here) of local mirabelle liquor. Please, Simon, take the bottle, since I fear that alcohol can not be as easily sent to the US as in the European Community.
- Brome
As far as classic games on the old Commodore Amiga, Core Design's Rick Dangerous is well up there in TechRadar's top five. And the news that an iPhone version is now available has sent a flutter of excitement through the elderly members of the news team. The Amiga classic – featuring the cartoonish Indiana-Jones-like adventurer Rick and lots of clever positioning of dynamite sticks – has been lovingly ported to Apple's iPhone courtesy of French developers Magic Team. Fight Nazis on buses If you regularly find that you fancy fighting some cartoon Nazis on the bus, then there really has never been a better game in which to do so. One thing we are still unsure about is the presence of onscreen D-pad controls in Magic's latest version of Rick Dangerous. Head to the iTunes Store to check it out for yourself and let us know your thoughts. Perhaps it is about time we dug that dusty old Amiga out of the loft, for some more gaming nostalgia… Related Stories Updated: Rumour: Xbox 360 to get one...
- Brome
I've only used the mobile web app, but maybe I should check one of these out?
- Derrick
I would love some feedback from people as to why they like one over the other. I have been using the mobile as well, and didn't know there were so many FF apps available.
- Martha
I didn't know either, Martha, until I found that blog post.
- Brome
Thanks, Brome, for posting it. Going to look into them and see if there are any reviews.
- Martha
I like amigo except for the color scheme (why red when FriendFeed is blue?) and that there's no access to the My Discussions page which is central to my FriendFeed usage.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Martha, part of the reason why I like to use an app over a webpage is that it supports app development. If people see that there is a demand for quality FriendFeed apps, they'll continue to perfect them. Giving a little money to a developer supports them and puts FriendFeed out there a little more. It's my tiny way of evangelizing the site.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hmmm, ya, no "My Discussions" is kind of a deal breaker.
- Kevin Pedraja
I forgot that Friday night was Drunk Posting Night on Friendfeed. So many epic posts of inebriated people, and all that time I was just sleeping in my GMT+1 time zone.
I am infinitely less likely to drunk post on FF now: the grocery store stopped carrying Rogue Mocha Porter. BOO =(
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
OH! I have an idea - how about Drunk READING on friendfeed - that should be a mandatory requirement starting today. :-)
- Jan - @wordsforliving
Tina, I have no idea what you're talking about (and I don't know what a mojito is either) but when I have a kid, I'll definitely call him/her Rogue Mocha Porter. Sounds cool. ;)
- Brome
Jannifer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I never drink alcohol. And I don't want to stop reading FF. :(
- Brome
Brome - just joking around! hee hee... I rarely drink (to save money), but when I did occasionally in the past, everything was funny and I laughed continuously no matter what was said.
- Jan - @wordsforliving
It's my current beer de jour Rogue is the brewery and Mocha Porter is the recipe.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina - I've never heard of those. I tried a chocolate martini once & thought it was the best thing ever!
- Jan - @wordsforliving
It's not quite what I was expecting when I first bought it, mocha is a misnomer IMO. But it's a tasty beer... Highland Brewery has a mocha stout that is exactly what it sounds like: thick with definite tastes of chocolate and coffee. Very rich, I can't do more than one.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'm actually not a big drinker, but when I do, I make a point to post to FF. I do have to say I'm looking forward to visiting France next year and learning more about wine (and maybe having a sip).
- Derrick
I have 199 subscribers right now. Wondering who will be my 200th subscriber.