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Mark H, Kelly, Brooks Bishop and 2 other people liked this
Holiday awesome.
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Have you seen the advert on BBC America with the TARDIS buried in the snow? Love it.
- Curtiss Grymala
Extinct modern technology presented like fossils | This Blog Rules - http://www.thisblogrules.com/2009...
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cool
- Shevonne
So I just finished watching both seasons of Breaking Bad back-to-back... and did not realize that was the DAD FROM MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE. Holy HELL............ mind blown.
edythe, Laniez, Steven Perez and 14 other people liked this
Hold the phone. Is that for real? YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND!
- Joe Pierce
Aren't you glad I told you to watch it?
- Spidra Webster
Yeah, that was awesome. It beat out Rome within three episodes... and Rome was pretty effing awesome. :D
- Adrian
Yep... check the resume: http://www.imdb.com/name...
- Adrian
OMG He was Hammond Druthers too!
- Joe Pierce
How about that Jesse Pinkman! The episode where he takes the junkies hostage... wow that has to be some of the best TV ever. I will never look at an ATM the same again. RIP junkie dude.
- Adrian
How did I miss this show? Is it syndicated, yet? Or do I have to get the DVDs?
- Rene Wirtz
Dudes! Emmy Award Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series TWO.YEARS.IN.A.ROW!
- Christopher Harley
@Rene: do what you have to do... just watch it. :D @Christopher: just look at that first photo! Anyone willing to do that, gets all the awards in my book. What a great character.
- Adrian
Hoooh! He's one good actór.
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
Can't wait for the next season. One of the best shows on TV right now.
- Josh Haley
Seriously... people can debate between Dollhouse and Fringe all they want, but Breaking Bad trumps them both. This show cooks!
- Adrian
Oh, easily.
- Josh Haley
He was also the dentist on Seinfeld..the one that turned Jewish
- VAL D. Zone
any good? #tv
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Oh yes, very good. :D
- Adrian
Ceiling cat is on my desktop. He knows. Somehow he knows.
Steven Perez, Morton Fox, Jennifer Dittrich and 11 other people liked this
Yikes!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
OMFG, that is so totally full of win.
- Scott
Ceiling cat is watching your mouse debate.
- Sankt Nikolaus
My iPhone Data Consumption Workflow - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
Amani, Brooks Bishop and Jesse Stay liked this
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Cathy Harrison, altblog, Eray Korkmaz and 87 other people liked this
wow.. that must be.... humbling.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Stand off
- Michael Fidler
Was this from National Geographic? Looks like it.
- Michael Fidler
Who's a Fail Whale?
- Alastair Montgomery
This would make a nice desktop background. Is there a large size anywhere?
- Kittyburgers
Katil olandan degilse sorun yok :p
- İgal Pirlanti (Bepanthol)
from iPhone
Umm... ya... where the funk did you come from?! lol
- iamkhayyam
o adam bence korkudan saldı, o kabarcıklar karbondioksit değil.
- Semih Masat ™
mikroorganizma ile beslenen balina olsa gerek :)
- Yiğit Demirel
Birisine çarpınca "pardon görmedim" filan denir. Bu çarparsa "pardon öldürdüm" filan der herhalde...
- Erkan Kayat
Try your best not to make any krill-like movements.
- Ken Morley
Damn paparazi find me everywhere.
- Uncle CW™
Kittyburgers, a slightly larger image is here: http://welovescience.com/index...
- Ken Morley
Thanks for the info
- Kittyburgers
wh....wha.....wh....whuh.....whale....WHALE!!!
- Morgan Haley
Nah, the guy with the bumper sticker, "Nuke the Whales"... that was someone else...really!
- Ken Morley
I found this as well, however, I still need a bigger image :-( http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kittyburgers
What if the whale was nearsighted, and in need of a snack. Would the size of an individual, if odd-tasting, "technokrill" at all register in Mr/Mrs. Whale's brain? (I bet someone here wet his/her pants. Oh, wait.)
- ianf ⌘
Cool, very cool
- Kevin J Hatton
"Now it is my chance to shave a whale.. now where is that razor"
- Jemm
acizliğimi hissettim
- Sinan İŞLER
You don't use a razor, you could hurt yourself in the process. You use industrial-grade pneumatic hammers while distracting the whale with in-retinae projection of "Finding Nemo" (a Hollywood movie no whale can resist).
- ianf ⌘
psikolojideki yanaşma ve kaçınma sendromunu bu foto için kullanabilirm sanırım.
- mayamisa
@Kittyburgers, this is indeed the largest instance of this picture around the known web (Dick Cheney can tell you all about the unknown one): http://tineye.com/search... Why don't you write to the author of it @flickr and inquire whether s/he might have bigger one still?
- ianf ⌘
neyseki balinalar insan yemiyor, en azından yutak borusu yumruk genişliğinde =)
- siniradam
PUBLIC SERVICE: Here's what the Turks are saying when they think we're not looking: "My favorite zoological vote. - Aduket effect The killer is not from no problem: p - İgal Pirlanti from iPhone I think he was swinging from fear, it is not carbon dioxide bubbles. - Semih table They must have fed the whale with microorganisms:) - Yigit Demirel Someone hit the "Sorry I have not seen" so...
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- ianf ⌘
This picture appeared on Flickr 10 months ago, in October of 2008. I don't suppose we'll ever get the confirmation what "little modification" in its title referred to: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ianf ⌘
The photo's from National Geographic which is where I thought I had seen it before, However I couldn't find it on their site. But, I did find it here; North Atlantic right whale - welovescience.com http://bit.ly/JZOhd
- Michael Fidler
Now I see it - the Flickr photo HAS BEEN doctored ("little of my modification, [trailing comma]") apparently by the poster Christiano~Mattzi by removing the bottom attribution/copyright part so as to appear "copyrightless." Stands to reason: it is simply too good to have been the product of a fluke photo session. Anyone with access to October 2008 Nat. Geo. please check how many hours beneath the waves /sessions/ photos it took to arrive at this single "money shot."
- ianf ⌘
@ianf ⌘ At least we know what type of whale it is now:) I would love to see the other ones.
- Michael Fidler
Michael, but we do not. It sez "right whale." Does it mean there are "left whales" and/or, perhaps, "wrong whales" as well? We can't let this drown in a cloud of ambiguous, yet apparently exhaled bubbles.
- ianf ⌘
ianf, sailors named them "Right Whales" because they were the right whale to hunt.
- Bruce Lewis
Aha, so there were/are Wrong Whales as well. I SUSPECTED it on intellectual grounds alone!!!!!
- ianf ⌘
"Twitter really needs to come up with some other way to tell me it's down."
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Claudia Schiffer by Mario Testino for Vogue Germany June 2008 - http://community.livejournal.com/foto_de...
'Like' robot (frɐnc), Michael Fidler, yavuz vashakmadze and 25 other people liked this
Did you know that in my old version of Word the spellchecker tries to change Schiffer into Stiffer? Do you know why that's funny? (I do.)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
(p.s. It's a long story as to how I know this obscure fact. Way too long to go into here.)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Çok hoş,teşekkürler Shevonne...
- Yaşar SEFEROĞLU
I've never been a Claudia Schiffer person, but some of those are very impressive
- RAPatton
She was always one of my fave supermodels.
- Shevonne
WOWZA
- Yolanda
I always found she had an alluring look to her... but that often had as much to do with the person behind the camera as the one in front of it.
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
gorgeous!
- BEX
barbie Claudia forever beautiful
- mariamaqdalena
Watching Coraline!
Robyn Hawk, Steven Perez, Rob Haas and 8 other people liked this
Ben laughed when Coraline first came on screen because she is wearing a yellow jacket and pink purse and has blue hair, just like me!
- joey
Oh my gosh and she is kind of clumsy and likes dragonflies. CREEPY.
- joey
I hate the very idea of this movie so much.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Okay.
- joey
I want to see it. And not just because Akiva hates it.
- Rochelle
I don't HATE it, really. It just irks me that it's laser-targeted toward such a specific type of misanthropic pre-teen girl. It just feels like a huge marketing ploy.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, have you read the book?
- Rachel Lea Fox
Well, gee, thanks. It's great to know that you think so highly of me, now that I've described how I'm not only interested in the movie but can identify significantly with the protagonist.
- joey
Right, Joey. My dislike of the movie means I dislike you. Nice jump, Evel Kenievel.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Rachel, admittedly, I haven't read any Gaiman. I worked in the comic industry when Vertigo took hold and I got burned out right fast on the wave after wave of sad-eyed Goth wannabes picking up the monthly Sandman. I haven't quite recovered.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, once you've been a preteen girl you can tell us how you felt.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
m9m, have you not been keeping up with my feed? I act more like a preteen girl than anyone else here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nah you don't. You love to argue. A girl would just go to her room and slam the door.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Puh-leeze, m9m. She'd throw a temper tantrum first and THEN go to her room and slam the door! Which is precisely what I'm doing!
- Akiva Moskovitz
[slam!]
- Akiva Moskovitz
You forgot to yell "I hate you!"
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I think at this point, that's my line.
- joey
When it comes to me, I think that's everyone's line.
- Akiva Moskovitz
RT @Geniusbastard I've formed a band, Kenyan Birth Certificate. Band is imaginary, but that won't stop it from having a dedicated following.
Rick Schmidt, Brooks Bishop, MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS and 7 other people liked this
LOLZ.
- Ayşe E.
ROFL
- Michael W. May
@Geniusbastard is my new BFF. I can't stop giggling.
- Ayşe E.
I may need to make this my new sig on a few forums... credited, of course.
- Michael W. May
This needs to be shared, MWM. Doooo eeeeettt!
- Ayşe E.
Excellent article: Untold Secret to Melodic Bass lesson: Rhythmic Overlays - Accents over the substrate. - http://www.notreble.com/buzz...
Brooks Bishop, Anna Haro, Christopher Harley and Josh Haley liked this
I remember my first hemiola. :)
- Josh Haley
that is a great article-good for any bassist to read-
- Steve Uccello
Chalupa has taken to sleeping in the sink. http://twitpic.com/ck6sv
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'Like' robot (frɐnc), Rob Haas, anna sauce and 24 other people liked this
Lizbeth likes to lay in the sink, too, even when it's wet. More signs cats are really aliens.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
So pretty!
- Ayşe E.
Awwww! i love it! my kitty goes to the sink when her waterfall water dish is dirty. :)
- dafire
awww. my kitties don't do that :(
- mjc
Cwazy Kittie.
- Brent - Loving Life
Go figure! On the other hand don't. There is little pint trying to understand cats. They clearly know things we don't! lol
- Kevin J Hatton
My cat occasionally goes in the sink but he always sleeps under the sink, he never sleeps on beds or chairs :)
- M F
One of our cats likes to pee in sinks... directly into the drain, though. I have mixed feelings about that :P
- Jemm
On hot days one of our cats would sneak into the neighbor's house through their cat door, and sleep in their sink. She never slept in our sink, only theirs. Fortunately the cats in that neighborhood seemed to get along, they never had a territorial fight in the neighbor's house.
- DGentry
demotivational posters - Coffee - IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY coffee, glengarry glen ross 28133 - http://www.motivatedphotos.com/...
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Numan Arda Çebi, Brooks Bishop, Andrew Trinh and 3 other people liked this
Life is better unscripted. Face the unknown wearing this wide stainless steel bracelet, laser-etched with centuries-old lorem ipsum scribed in Grad. For the designer who wants to say everything, and nothing, with a heavy dose of style.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
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Totally want one!
- Nia
me 2! How's Pandu doing? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Pandu is in love today :) http://www.panduzenology.com/2009...
- Nia
have you created a room for Pandu?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Not yet :) Should I?
- Nia
sure thing :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I'm totally going to start saying "fuck thou" instead of "fuck you" now.
Brooks Bishop, vicster is..., Matthew Horton and 8 other people liked this
sounds biblical
- sofarsoShawn
the other smite
- Joe Silence
Sayest it with thine passion inflamed!
- James (!?)
The funny thing about "thou" is that it used to be the 2nd person familar. "You" was 2nd person formal. But because of the way "thou" became enshrined in Biblical language while modern English changed around it, it now sounds more formal to us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Spidra Webster
Spidra! I thought you were gone off friendfeed!!!!
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Using 'thou' in that sense is even more of a put-down because you only use the familiar form for either close friends or social inferiors (with the latter being implied).
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Go fer it or - Gopher it - I crack myself Up.
- Brent - Loving Life
Might not "fuck thee" be a little better?
- Chad Albert
I was until yesterday. I am weak.
- Spidra Webster
And Chad caught what I should have caught. Grammatically, it should be "Fuck thee!"
- Spidra Webster
Love this thread.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
That's a lot of vim
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, Mo Kargas, Alfredo and 5 other people liked this
I like your monitor stand.
- Geoff Schultz
where is the vigor?
- anna sauce
Is brettandpickles.com real?
- Jimminy Fuller
Jimminy: it was a podcast I did awhile back (we did 3 whole episodes!). it's still in iTunes, but the project is defunct, so I took the site down :)
- Brett Kelly
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje... <-- there's the podcast
- Brett Kelly
Wow, straight out of the gate it's funny. You guys should have kept going.
- Jimminy Fuller
My favorite episode is the short one ("Short 1"), but it's rather unlike the other episodes.
- Brett Kelly
You can never have too much Vim
- Tom Horn
how do you hold your pencil meme
2ndmoon©, Ladybug Heather, Penguin It's Cold Outside and 4 other people liked this
yeah, it's been that kind of week!
- Jim Addz No Value
from email
Oh dear. *hands Jim more mojito making materials*
- Derrick
Also the "last thing a spammer would see" meme?
- Ladybug Heather
+Heather
- Kamilah Gill
That pic is creepy. You kind of look like a dentist (think Steve Martin in "Little Shop of Horrors"), and not one I'd want to go to!
- Laura B.
+1 laura b.
- chaz2b
How Do You Hold Your Pencil Meme
Alfredo, Penguin It's Cold Outside, Ladybug Heather and 5 other people liked this
lol cheater!
- Geoff Schultz
A Tribute to Hayao Miyazaki -- Bay Area premiere of "Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea" -- BAM/PFA - Film Programs - http://bampfa.berkeley.edu/filmser...
Bindu Reddy, Alix Whitmire, Victor Ryden and 10 other people liked this
"Hayao Miyazaki is the recipient of the 2009 Berkeley Japan Prize. On July 24, the Center for Japanese Studies and PFA will present the Bay Area premiere of Miyazaki’s new film, Ponyo, at Wheeler Auditorium on the UC Berkeley campus. On July 25, Miyazaki will make a rare in-person appearance at Zellerbach Auditorium. For information on these events celebrating CJS’s fiftieth anniversary, please visit ieas.berkeley.edu/cjs/."
- Stephen Mack
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The Ponyo premiere is Friday, July 24, 6pm, on the U.C. Berkeley campus (Wheeler hall), tickets $12 for non-students: https://commerce.cpsma.berkeley.edu/tickets...
- Stephen Mack
The conversation with Hayao Miyazaki is Saturday, July 25, 6pm, on the U.C Berkeley campus (Zellerbach hall), tickets $25 for non-students: https://commerce.cpsma.berkeley.edu/tickets...
- Stephen Mack
Thank you Stephen! This is great!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
At the PFA: My Neighbor Totoro on 7/12, Porco Rosso on 7/14, Castle in the Sky on 7/19, Princess Mononoke on 7/21 (http://bampfa.berkeley.edu/filmser...)
- Stephen Mack
As for Ponyo's general release. IMDB says 7/19, but that would be before the so-called Bay Area premiere on 7/24. Entertainment Weekly (http://www.ew.com/ew...) and Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m...) both say 8/14. From the EW page: "From Spirited Away to Howl's Moving Castle, films by Japanese animation giant Hayao...
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- Stephen Mack
So, who's going to see Ponyo or Hayao?
- Stephen Mack
Bump for it being this weekend.
- Stephen Mack
wow, its all sold out. not surprised, just surprised at where the time went between when you posted this and now. *sighs*
- Rachel Lea Fox
Your Guide to Computers on One Handy…Poster. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
polou/indigo_bow, Steve Epstein, zeaz and 6 other people liked this
YouTube - The FriendFeed Whiteboard - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Louis Gray, Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy, bob and 66 other people liked this
High quality version available (on YouTube)
- Dan Hsiao
Smart!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
cool stuff.
- Alan Le
Now refresh the page :)
- Andrew Smith
Whiteboard prototyping FTW!
- Hao Chen
Is it just me or is the most impressive thing about this video is their ability to write in straight lines without a rule?
- Mark Trapp
seeing stuff like that always gets me motivated to draw wire frames.
- Adam Helweh
They filmed themselves slowly erasing it, then ran it backwards. Makes them look extremely steady-handed.
- Dylan Parker
Dan, why do I get the feeling you wear that shirt a lot? ;)
- Christopher Chung
I would definitely need a rule for that!!
- Alex Sauceda
Really well done, guys
- Christopher Sacca
Very cool!! Great work!
- Karen Padham Taylor
Fantastic. I bet that took more than 5 minutes to make though. :)
- Mike Cassidy
Is that how you guys do all your UI mockups?
- Brian Johns
I'm going to have to talk to my UI guys. They're too slow.
- Ryan Kuder
Bubble... Because I love it :)
- Ross Miller
+ the music is really nice
- alexxandra
LOL, who doesn't have a whiteboard these days?
- Zachary TG
Paint that turns walls (or any surface) into a whiteboard - http://www.zee.me/blog...
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Dobromir Hadzhiev, chaz2b, Ron Perrella and 128 other people liked this
Cool
- Kevin J Hatton
Very cool product. Would have been nice if they were clearer about what the product actually is on the home page - had to dig thru to the products page to know that it was a solvent you apply to a surface. Wasn't sure if the product was a solvent/coating or if it was in the marker. I would buy this.
- Kamath (नमः)
This product has been around for awhile, right? I could have sworn I've seen this stuff in non-web media.
- Zach Landes
Zach, yeah I'm sure but very cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, definitely Kol. If I were building one of those trendy silicon valley offices (kinda like the one in the photo...)I'd totally have to add this.
- Zach Landes
Or if I were a parent of a 3 year old. My sis & her husband just bought a house. They could so use this given my niece's affinity for crayons.
- Kamath (नमः)
the walls in the study rooms of our new library are like this.
- Marie likes mistletoe
nice! One of the walls of our conference room is coated with a material that makes it a whiteboard as well. Very handy
- Tamara
It's uncomfortable while drawing in the conner
- Tony
does it smell good? the paint.
- Carolyn Chan
When I'm next due for a paint job around the house, I will definitely look at getting this in the office.
- Diego Barros
I really want this for my office!
- Michele Lorito-Chase
I was looking at this just yesterday for the room we'll be homeschooling in. I'm excited to try it.
- Heather Solos
Ironically, I just finished making a homemade white board with clear acrylic and some hardboard and some woodworking. If only I had know, I could saved a lot of work....
- Jim
This is so cool. I was actually talking with someone yesterday about having a room with whiteboard in my house. So this was very useful. THanks!
- *Tiffany Diamond*
*drools*
- Colby
just painted my dd's room with chalkboard paint. we're a little behind.
- kelly
GOTTA get me some for my office!! link to order? Zee U mightAs Well make a few on this! *giggle*
- Arleen Anderson
@Arleen If i had known there'd be this big a response.. :P
- Zee.
I wonder what happens if you paint this stuff on top of anti-vandal paint?
- Slappy Line
Want!
- Rick Cogley
Just wait til the late 2010s, when nanotechnologically-based paints appear. You will be able to paint computer screens onto any surface in your home.
- J. D. Ebberly
I wonder how it compares with this one, which is 8x cheaper http://www.ronshomeandhardware.com/Product...
- David Lynch
Unscientific America and those awful atheists : Pharyngula - http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng...
Brooks Bishop, ronin and Morton Fox liked this
"stop pretending that religion ought to be a determinant of public policy, that it can inform us about the nature of our existence, or that it provides a good guide to public morality. Get it out of our schools and courthouses and workplaces and governments, take it to your homes and your churches, and use it appropriately as your personal consoling mind-game. And stop pretending that it is universal and necessary"
- Edward Zwart
sorry, one more quote... on the issue of certainty... "I don't know for sure, and you don't either, so why are you being so high-handedly specific in your claims that god was a Jewish carpenter, or his prophet was a polygamist with a flying horse, or that Ragnarok is imminent? Give me a method for evaluating your claims, tell me what rational reason you have to believe that, show me the evidence!"
- Edward Zwart
oh crap, the next two paragraphs are reeeeeally good too... i'm resisting more copy/pasting... go read it!
- Edward Zwart
I like parts of that, but the things he said about science confused me, as did his criticism of the book for not discussing topics other than the book's topic. As for what you posted above, the "evidence" presented to me in such debates is usually "it's in the Bible." Naturally my response is to question the accuracy of the bible, particularly given that my debating partner has not read...
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- Lo
Bill Cosby portrait made with JELL-O shots - http://andrewsalomone.com/blog...
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10 Interesting lightweight jQuery plugins for web developers - http://woork.blogspot.com/2009...
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Slime Molds - http://englishrussia.com/...
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"This Russian guy is fond of making photos of the ’slime molds’ - micro mushrooms that grow on the plants."
- bcultral
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slime molds are cool
- echostreamer
So after reports that FriendFeed is considering a function to truncate threads as well as limit commenting to a select group of people, I had a few ideas I feel might be worth considering in it's implementation.
Josh Haley, Jannifer @wordsforliving, Rob Michael (Atmos Trio) and 38 other people liked this
[Selective Commenters] If a post will now have the ability to restrict who may comment on it, I believe a function should be added to the Hide options to 'Hide all posts where I can not comment'. If I'm not worthy of commenting on their thread, I should have the option of saying their thread isn't worthy of being in my stream.
- Johnny Worthington
[Truncation - Reason] I understand the desire of some to truncate a post after a number of comments but I would like a reason nominated when the truncation takes place. The selection should be mandatory and the list should be made up of 4 or 5 reasons, 'Other' not being one of them.
- Johnny Worthington
[Truncation - Once] Once a thread has been marked by the owner as truncated, this should not be able to be undone. If the user feels compelled to end the thread, that is their decision, it should not be something that is toggled on and of at will.
- Johnny Worthington
[Truncation - Editing] Once the thread has been marked for truncation, all options of the owner to delete comments should be disabled. Likewise, the ability for a commenter to delete their comment should also be disabled. The ability for the owner of the thread to edit the title of the post and any of their comments should be disabled. Likewise, the ability to edit a comment should be...
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- Johnny Worthington
[Truncation - User Stats] I am much more likely to engage in a thread with someone who does not truncate the discussion. In the user stats on their friendfeed.com/user, it should show the number of posts truncated or expressed as a percentage.
- Johnny Worthington
I have always enjoyed the delicate power balance between the owner of the original post and the comments that flow from it. I just suggest these things to help ensure that balanced is not nudged to far in any party's favor.
- Johnny Worthington
"If I'm not worthy of commenting on their thread, I should have the option of saying their thread isn't worthy of being in my stream." - Very much agree with this. Any thread marked this way is clearly a private discussion and there's no need to have it in anybody else's stream at all other than as an ego-stroke "look what we're all talking about" - that's TV, not the web. By default, in my opinion, it simply shouldn't appear anywhere else.
- Mark H
+1 i agree too
- Bhowmik Shah
Johnny, I agree with the ideas you've put forth and appreciate the thought that went into them. However, I still feel this is a solution looking for a problem. If a thread/post has gotten so out of control that it needs to be truncated, I'd bet that it's an equal candidate for complete deletion. You don't stop runaway trains by taking some cars off the track.
- CAJ, somewhere else
So threads get out of control. Where is the lack of space? It can't be that. Most threads have very little to do with the orginal post and aren't worth reading anyway. It would be far more useful If people could comment directly with other comments. As for being picky about who is allowed to comment. Hardly social media is it? Why are people's solutions to problems restrictive? We have...
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- tom murphy
I would like to see the ability to branch off conversations to another thread, many times comments have nothing to do with the original post, but are comments on someone else's comments
- Kim Landwehr
Linking and merging threads?
- Anthony Citrano
Well written, Johnny. I suspect trying to micromanage bad behavior with FF options is not going to fair any better than the attempts to manage bad behavior in any other public space. The best set of options are the ones we choose to use for our own behavior. One of those options is to ignore those who don't understand the etiquette of spirited debate. Thanks for posting your ideas - they give a sense of the abuses that can happen if the controls are implemented.
- Polly Potter
I agree with all of these.. except it is only going to make FF more complicated! I'll wait and see how they implement it.
- Tim Hoeck
@Kim .. interesting idea - branch off conversations. .. i also was thinking about the option to set comments as free, open whiteboard, where comments would be placed anywhere, authors might be able to drag them to what they talk about - its the collaboration time! - .....// and, of course, comments with functionality close to posts, that has been mentioned here before ...
- Petr Buben
Johnny, agree on your first point. As for the rest I agree with Tim and believe, though they might be needed, they are over complicating FF. So perhaps the new feature is going to cause more fuss then it's going to solve. Perhaps there is another solution to the problem or perhaps we should deal with the issue in another way?
- Kol Tregaskes
Is "truncated" the right word? Or are we talking about "freezing" or "locking" a post? When someone says "truncated", I think of the functionality as lopping off some comments at the end of a thread. Why would someone want to do that?
- Jason Huebel
I guess the reason I think truncating is a bad idea is because the owner could always go back and delete off-topic comments. Truncating strikes me as being rather medieval. Let's lop off this arm of the post to save the rest of the body-- that kind of approach.
- Jason Huebel
The owner can moderate comments already. Is that what you mean, Jason?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I think what Jason means is actually locking a thread, making it so no one else can comment but not actually deleting the thread. It's common in actual online forums. Johnny is requesting something a step further from that, where when a thread is locked no one can edit or remove their comments; the only thing that would remove them is the original poster deleting the post....
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Tina, well, my first comment was about locking. But then I realized my mistake and started actually talking about truncating a thread.
- Jason Huebel
I don't think our ability to edit our own comments should ever be removed... ever.
- Kol Tregaskes
I like the idea of locking comments on threads but not for the reason of abuse, more for the reason it could be used for 'sticky' posts. But yes the feature could easily be abused.
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually, the terminology that Johnny is using is a bit confusing. Is "truncate" supposed to mean that the thread is locked, preventing further comments?
- Jason Huebel
I believe that is what we are talking about? If not, ignore all my comments above. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think so, Jason, but Johnny will have to be the one to clarify when he wakes up.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Also, as for limiting commenting to a select group of people, isn't that what DM'ing a group of people does? So wouldn't adding a checkbox or something that says "Also make this public" be sufficient?
- Jason Huebel
I don't like the sound of "limit commenting to a select group of people". What gives anyone the right to determine who can write anything on here? Forums are about the free exchange of information and opinion. If you publish something into the public domain, that makes you fair game for a discussion. If someone doesn't share your opinion or thinks you're an idiot and says so, that's the way it works. If you don't like that then you should find something else to do with your time.
- Gilbert Harding
@Gilbert, well, I think if I post something I should have ability to put whatever limitations I want on that post. If we followed your train of thought, then why can't I see someone else's DMs? I mean, they're on a public site so I should be allowed to read whatever I want, right? No, I shouldn't.
- Jason Huebel
Either way, locking a thread is not going to (or shouldn't) stop anyone from re-sharing it and posting their comments on their new thread. At least it's away from the abused yet still being publicly broadcast?
- Kol Tregaskes
Jason, a DM is is a private conversation. That's not what is under discussion here. If you want to limit who can read your posts then this isn't, or shouldn't be, the place for you. Unless you go for a private feed everything you post is public and open to comment by any FF subscriber. I would be very disappointed if that ever changed. I get the impression there are some people here who have never experienced a good flame war on Usenet.
- Gilbert Harding
witnessed and even participated in a few. similar crap goes on messageboards, too. i don't see how editing someone else's comments would be all that beneficial unless you're trying to deal with a smear campaign and then you have larger issues to deal with.
- Joe Silence
Perhaps locking down a thread should only be allowed if the owner of the entry is the only commentator up to that point (like an announcement) but once others have commented then it's unlockable? Just a thought. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Announcements would seem to me to be the only candidate for "locking". Other web forums would call that Sticky and comments would be 'off'. All other posts are fair game for comment by everyone. Otherwise this isn't a social media site.
- Gilbert Harding
+++Jason - you're correct... we should have the right to put limitations on who reads our posts, plus who can respond, etc. Because otherwise the "popular" users who are actually just mob clicks who feed on flame wars, would ruin the service altogether. Especially since they have the belief that everything should be open to debate, nobody should be blocked, no comments should be...
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- Jannifer @wordsforliving
But Jannifer, there already are limitations in effect for who can read your posts: a private feed or simply DMing the post to the specific people you want to see it already exist. Either (or both) of these are already in place and either (or both) allow you to have your content appear to only the people you want without anyone else seeing it. To me, the concept of having something...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. We're working hard to get this feature right and love all the suggestions and commentary around the correct implementation.
- Ross Miller
There is another interesting (but very long) thread on this subject here as well: http://ff.im/55aZH
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't like the idea of limiting a public thread to certain users. Either it's on for all or off for all. I think the idea of perhaps making individual entries private and the idea of limiting the lock feature to threads with only the owner of the thread as the commenter.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think a post owner should be allowed to lock and unlock posts at will. Yes, there's the potential for abuse. But I think the owner's rights to their posts trumps that. What if you ask a question, get the answer to that question and want to lock the thread for archive reasons (to keep it from growing any further)? What if the comments on a post are out of control (in your view) and you want to lock it to force a kind of "cool down period"? The post owner's rights-- that's the key.
- Jason Huebel
If I wanted to be limited, I would just stay on Twitter
- Outsanity
Oh Tina, I wasn't thinking about only allowing certain people to comment - I really don't know what to think about that and didn't even have that in mind. I was only disagreeing about the concept that certain people don't belong or shouldn't here if they don't want everything to be public or unrestricted.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I'd like to use friendfeed like a true microblogging platform and have the same options as a regular blog - I can delete a post if I want, moderate comments, etc. I just now realized something!!! - I think some people look at friendfeed like it's a Forum, where everyone's comments should stand once posted. And this makes sense to me now why people think this way if they view it like a...
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- Jannifer @wordsforliving
FF can be used in both ways, Jannifer, that's why it's a great service yet confusing to come. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't view FF as a forum, per se. I reserve the right to delete comments or posts. But I'm also hesitant to delete things unless absolutely necessary. Other users might not be as conservative with their approach. But that doesn't make their approach any more right or wrong, IMO.
- Jason Huebel
Jason, exactly. You are able to use FF in many different ways. It's one of its charms. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Who here likes trip-hop/downtempo (or the like) music? What are you favourite artists/bands? What artists would you recommend that are perhaps lesser known?
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I'm a huge fan of Lamb, Portishead, DJ Shadow (though his latest albums have been very ordinary), Massive Attack, UNKLE, Hooverphonic, Sneaker Pimps and Frou Frou. And recommend Snake River Conspiracy, Halou, Maps and Sunday Munich.
- Kol Tregaskes
Perhaps I should include alternative dance as a genre here too?
- Kol Tregaskes
Portishead is ok...I have baggage because my ex was all into them (yes, I am a sensitive, long-haired slacker gen y guy and I am not afraid to admit it...I also cry at movies and like poetry, so there :p). I like the Sneaker Pimps. I am into ambient and techno/electronica and I always mean to try more, but I have a lot of music and listen to a lot of different things. I should spend some time on Pandora or Last.fm and assemble some new bands. Man does not live by Radiohead alone.
- Neal Jansons
Radiohead is my favourite band. :-) I miss Pandora. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
That's about half my collection. Radiohead, Massive Attack, Lunascape, Sneaker Pimps. The rest is Spice Girls. :D
- Steven Perez
Haha, Steven. Not heard of Lunascape, will check them out.
- Kol Tregaskes
Hooverphonic, Llorca, Morcheeba, Bliss, Blue Six, Tosca, 4Hero, Waldeck, to name just a few =)
- Vox
Kol, are you using last.fm? I'd love to see what you're listening to! Matches my musical taste pretty well...
- Holger Eilhard
Not heard of Llorca or Waldeck, thanks Vox. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Holger, http://www.last.fm/user...
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm currently listening to my "best of" playlist which is all sorts. :-) And no Steven, sadly no Spice Girls, they just missed the cut. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And you're already my friend. Why didn't I find you recently... Hmm.
- Holger Eilhard
LOL, Holger.
- Kol Tregaskes
Massive Attack and, of course, the best of all, Archive !! :)
- BobbySponge
I'm liking Lunascape: http://www.myspace.com/lunasca.... Thank you, Steven. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Podcasts like "Chill with the Chola", "Quincy's Essential Music", and "Texture DJs" occasionally run downtempo sets.
- Andrew C
Cool, thanks Andrew. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
massive attack, poritshead, thievery corp, hooverphonic, dj shadow...
- docrivs
w00t! very cool. I like Portishead and Massive Attack too, but I hardly know any of the other ones.
- Nathan Rein
Nathan, if you like those two I'd definitely recommend Lamb. Gorecki is my favourite tune of theirs: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kol Tregaskes
Aphex Twin and Thievery Corp are a bit hit-and-miss for me. A few classic tunes but a lot I don't like too.
- Kol Tregaskes
I *need* more music like this: http://www.220.ro/kMu1aA4... - Snake River Conspiracy - 'Breed' - more rocky than the above but absolutely love it! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I added you on Last.fm, Kol...gonna plumb your collection for good bands :)
- Neal Jansons
Neal, cool. I tend to search a lot for new music (and always after new stuff too), so hope you find something there. Note though, I listen to a huge variety of music. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, so do I. Classical to black metal and most things in-between.
- Neal Jansons
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Portishead are tops for me, but also Massive Attack, Morcheeba, Cibo Matto, old Esthero, Some Lamb & Sneaker Pimps. No DJ Shadow. Frou Frou sounds promising.
- Uche Ogbuji
Frou Frou are great, Imogen Heap has gone solo so check her out too.
- Kol Tregaskes
i like frou frou/imogen, but i don't really consider them to be 'trip hop'. aphex twin has some great stuff, but i wouldn't consider him trip hop either. he's got more of an ambient, breakbeat, and glitch sound that is not quite as weird as skinny puppy, but close. morcheba is really good, and i'd put them in the trip hop/downtempo variety too. i really like their james bond kind of sound. 'music' and 'the sea' are 2 of my favorites of theirs. i like lamb too. never heard cibo matto or esthero.
- docrivs
Today, Google engineers announced a technology called PubSubHubbub that makes RSS/Atom more real-time, and they deployed the technology on FeedBurner. FriendFeed also added support for the technology, so if you have a FeedBurner feed, your updates should show up in FriendFeed within seconds rather than minutes after the feed updates.
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To enable it for your FeedBurner feed: go to Feedburner, click on the "Publicize" tab, and then click on "PingShot" and enable the PingShot service. That will enable PubSubHubbub and send your feed to a number of ping services.
- Bret Taylor
what, right now? i mean immediately? From today?
- Zee.
Zee: yes, right now!
- Benjamin Golub
Zee: yes, from today, though the technology is very much "in beta," so I am sure there will be hiccups.
- Bret Taylor
Excellent, thank you Bret and FF, will switch this on now. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
WOW.
- Zee.
Nice - thanks Bret!
- Jim Connolly
RSS is back in the game... then
- Yann Ropars
This is very cool
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Once step closer to being able to build an open distributed twitter like system!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
this has been done already by superfeedr.com - google's behind the game on this one, but def takes it mainstream.
- Scott Magdalein
I don't understand. Updates won't appear on Feedburner in realtime, so what's the point?
- Peter
Peter: most blogging platforms ping Feedburner when you post a new entry, Feedburner pulls down the feed, Feedburner then pings the hub, then the hub notifies FriendFeed :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks Benjamin. Alas, my feeds are not that sophisticated.
- Peter
We're still working out kinks so if you have any issues please send me a message!
- Brett Slatkin
You lost me at "Today" I shall now just smile and nod politely
- Steve C
Where's the spec?
- Dave Winer
Dave: http://pubsubhubbub.googlecode.com/svn.... Edit: Brett beat me by nanoseconds!
- Benjamin Golub
If I understand correctly this essentially turns any site with a feedburner feed into a real time publisher? But to read it in real time you need what?
- BryanSchuetz
Since this is a Google thingie, does it work on Google Reader already?
- Tarmo Aidantausta
FriendFeed can receive the pings *RIGHT NOW*
- Brett Slatkin
guys, how long are we really talking before it should appear here? Seconds or minutes?
- Zee.
The Reader integration is a prototype; more to come soon!
- Brett Slatkin
no way, so Google Reader could technically go real time??
- Zee.
That would be cool, wouldn't it? =)
- Brett Slatkin
I stopped reading here: "RSS isn't supported for simplicity." Laughing. Out. Loud.
- Dave Winer
I better make sure i get post titles right the first time round.....
- Zee.
Brett - any chance i could ask you a couple of questions via email or dm?
- Zee.
Hey Dave that's my mistake. We support RSS! http://code.google.com/p... I need to update the spec.
- Brett Slatkin
is that SUP's role take up by those rss accelerator? or SUP is losing a chance to propagate in this field?
- huixing
Huixing: we plan to support all widely adopted real-time standards to make FriendFeed better. We are not tied to SUP only.
- Bret Taylor
from iPhone
Brett, why didn't you use the weblogs.com ping protocol? Your comment there about RSS, right up front, really captures the whole philosophy -- right? Let's just reinvent stuff that already works, so... Why? To break everything that already works? It won't happen that way. It'll only make your adoption curve steeper.
- Dave Winer
Would you ping me (dave dot winer at gmail dot com) when I can use RSS with this system. I'll be happy to evaluate it and provide feedback if necessary, and endorse it if it works. Thanks in advance.
- Dave Winer
Alright we've fixed in the spec Dave. Sorry for the mistake. Followed up.
- Brett Slatkin
Dave you can use rss feeds http://code.google.com/p...
- Darren Stuart
I agree why didn't ff just implement a ping server and just let people add it to their blogs?
- Darren Stuart
Darren: you can use our public SUP in that way: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Benjamin Golub
Zee- there are some debugging tools at the bottom of http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/, which I think is the hub you're using. For example, I don't see anything here: http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/topic-d...
- Casey Muller
Ping this, ping there. What's so great about it?
- Burcu Dogan
Benjamin: thanks that just saved me a little work. Should be linked on the api page I think. ;)
- Darren Stuart
Just enabled this myself, glad to be on the bleeding edge for once !
- Justin Long
Awesome. Just enabled it. Thanks for the details Brett.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark, can you let me know if it works for ya?
- Zee.
@Casey i can't seem to get it working
- Zee.
Darren: it's linked from http://code.google.com/p... but yeah we should do a better job of exposing it.
- Benjamin Golub
I had enabled from way before, let's see if the post I'm about to publish works. I'll DM you Zee if it does!
- Jorge Escobar
can someone please let me know if they've managed to get this working?
- Zee.
There's also a WP plugin I wrote that does the same thing. This might be a good option for anyone who's not using feedburner. http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Josh Fraser
Zee, I set this up for my Empoprise-BI blog, wrote a blog post (using Blogger), and six minutes after posting I haven't seen anything in Google Reader or FriendFeed yet. So if you're not getting advertised response, you're not the only one. I'll test again at a later time.
- John E. Bredehoft
cool...just want to be sure it isn't me alone
- Zee.
Update - seven minutes after posting, the post showed up on FriendFeed (both in my feed, and in a group that receives the blog feed). Nothing in Google Reader yet.
- John E. Bredehoft
Josh Fraser - nice!
- Micah Wittman
John: The Reader integration we demo'ed was a prototype; more to come in the future!
- Brett Slatkin
yeah, it seems 7 minutes is about how long its taking me for too (to arrive in friendfeed)
- Zee.
Could you DM me the feed URL? I'll look into the details and figure out the issue. Like I said before, we're still working out a few kinks (the FeedBurner integration is initial support right now). So thanks in advance for your help in making it super fast!
- Brett Slatkin
Ready? Go!
- Jorge Escobar
Nope, nothing... published at 4:34pm EST
- Jorge Escobar
Brett, the one i'm testing it on is http://zee.me/blog and the feedburner url is http://feeds2.feedburner.com/zblog1
- Zee.
4:42pm, 8 minutes after I published and the article still doesn't show. My blog is at http://jungleg.com and the feed is http://feeds.feedburner.com/jungleg
- Jorge Escobar
Looking into it now, thanks!
- Brett Slatkin
Thanks Brett!
- Jorge Escobar
Cheers Brett - i'm itching here... :)
- Zee.
If you're looking for another implementation of PubSubHubbub, I'd suggest you give a look to our http://superfeedr.com ;) Thanks for your time and feedback!
- Julien
Heh, what's the idea behind the crazy name? ;)
- Tyson Key
does self hosted wordpress natively ping feedburner?
- Tyler Gillies
Try it for yourself! http://friendfeed.com/pubsubh.... My test took only 8 seconds. Amazing (via http://friendfeed.com/brett)
- Jérôme Flipo
Nice to see XMPP more and more used on the web! It's a nice environment, also for cloud computing!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice tech, strange name though. Wonder if Google has a projectname generator, feeds it some foundation words, and then watches it spew out 1,835391 suggestions in 20-sized chunks? Too bad they didn't pick up PubSubBuzz instead, rhymes better. Also, what was EVER WRONG with PubSubHubris? (fresh and full of promise).
- ianf ⌘
This tech has been around for ages. It's getting much needed promotion right now, but it's not new. The name comes from XMPP's pubsub mechanism, with hubbub on the end. The option for PingShot has also been in Feedburner for months.
- Marlin Forbes
I think that unless you have installed the pubsubhubbub plugin for wordpress, that feedburner still polls your content. It pushes your content out to other interested parties using the new mechanism, but it will still poll your feed. Correct?
- Marlin Forbes
you can have wordpress ping feedburner under settings->writing add http://ping.feedburner.com
- Tyler Gillies
great to see you talk today bret, thanks
- sean percival
appreciate that
- Hans Kainz
My feedburner feed updated in real-time but the blog post is still not published here on friendfeed?
- Svartling
didn't work for me on last post....and i have the ping shot on
- Bob DeMarco
Just wanted to let you know it worked for me yesterday. Almost a minutes after I posted on my blog it was up in FriendFeed
- Jorge Escobar
Great!
- Brett Slatkin
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