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Twillist Wants To Become The Ultimate Resource For Twitter Lists - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Ever since Twitter started increasing in popularity, there's been a clear need for a more efficient way to manage groups of users than ... - EnglishPack
Robert Scoble
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Paul Goldfarb
Share Your Baby's Milestones at TotSpot [Kids] - http://lifehacker.com/395921...
Vaibhav Pandey
[Parents] Share Photos and Achievements of Your Kids With TotSpot - http://technofriends.in/2009...
Mike Fruchter
Working on my 9 month old daughters blog. The digital archive of her life is now official. http://www.kayleefruchter.com/
Thanks for reminding me I still need to import all the stuff from from my 5yo's old blog over to her new space and repost stuff to my 3yos blog. Not enough time in the day. - Anika
Way too cute. - Mike Nayyar
Yeah, it's fun the first year, but after that it's a PITA. My kid's first website is 6 years old, then she got her first blog at the end of '03. My son's blog is 3 years old. I just moved them both to Wordpress and haven't imported anything yet. There's just too much data. - Anika
we use Totspot for our 7 month old. Has worked really well since it's engineered specifically for adding "firsts", importing photos and videos, growth charts, journals, etc. Highly recommended. Much easier than setting up a blog. - Nathan Chase
Cute! I love baby blogs. Here is my daughter's: http://www.roadofmiracles.com - Rochelle
Nathan, that's a great tip. I wish that was around when we had our first. I'm seriously considering getting them both Tumblr or Storytlr pages and letting them sort it out when they get older. I'm tired. LOL - Anika
Nathan, I have an account at Totspot, it's a neat service. My fear is the service shutting down at some point, and all that precious content will be forever lost. For now the blog suits the purpose for video embedding and quick posts of pictures. I also like the fact I can map a custom domain to the blog. - Mike Fruchter
@Rochelle, I love that blog. Thanks for sharing! Audrey is ADORABLE! - Mike Fruchter
Mike, also look up OurStory.com - great for recording a timeline of events and pictures. - Jesse Stay
@ Just CW, oh god that scares me :) On a side note every few weeks family are asking for recent pictures etc. Now it's easy for them they can simply goto her domain, or subscribe via email for updates. I hope to digitize and document every major event in her life on this blog. Future boyfriends be warned ahead of time, cold steel is not to far away :-) - Mike Fruchter
@Jesse, thanks. It's been bookmarked. I need to register for an account and check it out. - Mike Fruchter
Loved the photo of your little pumpkin, so CUTE!! It's such a great idea! I set up one for my 5yr old, she wanted a blog because both her dad and mom have one but I've been too lazy to help her update it. You've just inspired me to keep it going :) I am going to look up the others mentioned here as well. - MiaD
Anika, did you set the clock on your digital camera? If your photos have dates in them, just upload them to OurDoings for an insta-blog. Mike actually wrote an OurDoings review not to long ago. Since he wrote it I added support for custom domains. - Bruce Lewis
Thanks for the tip, Bruce. I don't think I can rely on my camera's settings. Just learned today that stuff I shot 5 days ago are timestamped 1/1/2006. :( - Anika
Once you upload it, though, Anika, you should at least have the correct uploading date on your PC. That should give you a rough idea of when pictures were taken, I think. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
she's so very cute Mike :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Mike - Congrats on getting the blog up! late to the convo, but glad you've checked us out; we do have a wide open API (http://www.totspot.com/api) that we intend to make more accessible over time through more consumer facing stuff to give users confidence / control of their content (though we have every intention of lasting ;)) ...domain mapping, hard-copy printing, and more, are also on the way - would love to hear any more thoughts you might have for us to get better - feel free to email michael@totspot - Michael Broukhim
@Michael, thanks for the comments. I will be sure to give the service a second look at. I have heard nothing but great things about it :) - Mike Fruchter
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Paul Buchheit
How Gmail destroyed Outlook. - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine - http://www.slate.com/id...
How Gmail destroyed Outlook. - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine
"As of this week, Gmail has reached perfection." Now maybe they can take it out of Beta :) - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
I thought Beta was part of the product name, Paul. :-) - Louis Gray
That's the only logical explanation. - Paul Buchheit
No, Gmail's not in beta. Google is. That's why the logo clearly reads "Gmail(TM) by Google BETA" - Kevin Fox
Boo. :) - Randy Holloway from twhirl
We have Google Apps at work, but my boss is a Microsoft guru and LOVES Outlook. I LOVE Gmail, so I've resisted most of his attempts to get me to pop Gmail down to Outlook. It's a battle every day. :) - Jandy
I use the Mail.app in Mac, but everything stays on the server. - Aaron Hood
Mail.app <3 - "Joey"
Not sure I understand this debate. I use Mail.app to access my Google hosted mail via IMAP. Best of both worlds and Google in no way "destroys" my use of Mail.app. I presume Outlook could do the same. - Nick in Manila
I love Gmail, but they still need better integration with other apps/platforms. For example, Google contacts needs to sync directly (and for free) with iPhone/iTunes, salesforce.com, etc. - Peter Ghosh
@Kevin - They're going to rename the company to Google BETA, Inc soon? ;) - Tyson Key
Sorry, I meant Google Calendar, not contacts . . . - Peter Ghosh
Gmail is a great consumer webmail, but in no way "destroys" Outlook. How does Gmail allow me to book conference rooms, or recall errant emails, or follow SOX retention policies? Both have their place and are leaders in their own area, but one does not supplant the other. - Ryan
Great writeup on Gmail. - Mike Reynolds
gold master gmail! - MG Siegler
one huge reason why Microsoft HATES Google, outlook is just one of the major pay for software offerings by MS that are being eroded in market share due to Google - sofarsoShawn
Comparing GMail to Outlook is like comparing Apples to Fruit Salad. :) They're not the same, even if they overlap on a few features. - Kenneth LeFebvre
I would guess that Gmail is likely destroying Hotmail -- Outlook not so much. Still reason for Microsoft to be pissed at Google though. - Brian Sullivan
@psghosh, GCalendar has started syncing with iCal for some time now - check google's help for this: http://www.google.com/support... - Peter Fedin
Creative Destruction - good news for the public! - GlennIsaac
If you're not using Exchange, sure, gmail's a killer. - Mr. Gunn
Well done article. - Micah
I turned my tom(at)thomashawk.com email address over to gmail and I have to say that the reduction in spam is nothing short of remarkable. Every now and then I check the spam file and feel bad because real email gets trapped in there, but by and large it's awesome. - Thomas Hawk
Feels like I'm preaching to the choir here but have been using gmail in one form or another since almost the beginning. After spending years using mac mail to consolidate accounts went full gmail a few months ago because it just works better and the extras are great. Don't see how anybody can top it. The only other one I've tried which shows some potential is zenbe.com. - Mike Elliott
Gmail rocks! Once you start using it there's no going back. Two niggles though: Multiple signatures and blind group mailings, please! - Todd Brunner from twhirl
Gmail seems great at first - but recently, I have seen several messages disappear from my Inbox while I watch. Sometimes they reappear next time I check - sometimes not. Searching for reports of Gmail eating messages turns up a disturbingly high number of hits. Destroys Outlook? Maybe. Destroys messages? Yes. Not good enough, even for a free service! What use is 7 Gb of space - when it isn't 7 Gb of *reliable* space? - James from twhirl
so gmail finally has complete windows compatible keyboard macros, syncs my to my mobile phones, I can do my mailings with them, has an integrated crm system, and more? great. </sarcasm> (and I say this as an avid gmail user ...) - Nicole Simon
Switched to Gmail from Outlook and never looked back. - Roberto Bonini
didn't Bucheit invent Gmail according to Louis G? The opening shot in the downfall of Microsoft...? - sofarsoShawn
He was on the team, yes - and did the prototype for the Gmail Ads, i belive. Don't be modest Paul. - Roberto Bonini
As much as I love gmail (I've got several accounts), I couldn't use it an office environment yet. Want to covert an email to an appointment or task just drag it to the calendar or task list in Outlook. Outlook also has search folders so I can set up folders for emails I got today. I know there are GreaseMonkey extensions to support search folders but Gmail's date searching is just crummy. - Andy Davies
I wish people would stop killing the aps I use...I hate that. - John D Reasor
Dukeswharf: POP/IMAP> Thunderbird> Enigmail (PGP) = offline+security+no ads (but no "new" features) - coldbrew
Nice. I still have more trust in self-administered PKI; is that naive? Are they using asymmetric or symmetric crypto? - coldbrew
Outlook destroyed Outlook the way MS destroys it's other products (and I have been an Outlook fan since '97): it became bloated and slow. - Peter Ghosh
I'll still use thunderbird since I have to centralize many different mail accounts (and want them to be clearly separated), but I must admit that Gmail made a good point here :-) - stanjourdan
Jourdan: Do you use PGP? We should have a key-signing party room on FF. Maybe I'll make one now... - coldbrew
Gmail is far from destroying Outlook. I still have to use Outlook for plenty of things. It is just a different tool. Feature by feature Google is way way behind Outlook. - Patrick Allmond
Gmail is the small business solution. Major corporations are way too private to be communicating outside the Outlook box. Yet Outlook has been shown in the past to have vulnerabilities. Security is less of an issue with smaller databases. Suits prefer the worn path, the grey rut. - Phil Boiarski
Sorry, I meant gmail's encryption. I don't think it has any PKI option. does it? - coldbrew
I don't understand that argument, Mark. By the same logic, Google couldn't be anything more than a niche search provider because nobody would trust a search engine that everyone uses. - Kevin Fox
"When Outlook fails on one computer, only one computer and one user is affected." Right, because a software vulnerability in Outlook is programmed and rolled out on a per customer basis. - virtually
There's just no way I'll use email software that uses the one-message-per-row paradigm again. The productivity gains from Conversations are just enormous. - jakebf
@mark: that's entirely true, if kind of a moot point based on the probability. If visa went down tomorrow, nobody would be able to pay for much of anything. If Comcast went down, most of us would have no internet connection. It's clearly your prerogative to run all your own software infrastructure, but I'd rather have the convenience of web based software. - Joel Webber
A lot of commentators are discussing chalk and cheese. Outlook is an email CLIENT / Application. GMail is another Client / Application. How you use each one is entirely up to each user. Most non-technical people think of Gmail as something they access via their browsers, whereas Outlook is a Microsoft Application that runs on their PC. Not entirely true. you can access GMail servers using any client (Outlook/Thunderbird). - Chris Wright from twhirl
Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it. The day Gcal started sending SMS to my mobile with the reminders it also killed my old Palm Treo. - Jordi Soler
What Gmail does is make using Email for the normal non techie person easy. The reality is most home users do not use the power of Ouitlook. The issue with Gmail is good lick syncing a pda or smart phone to it it works well for the calendar but not for contacts. Also Gmail does not give you an e asy way to store messages in tact offliine. Outlook has a PST file for offline storage and backup. - Rob Cairns
As has been touched on in this thread. Gmail and Outlook are largely orthogonal. Outlook is a client. Gmail is a mail provider with a client. You can use Outlook with Gmail or another mail provider, but either way if that provider goes belly-up you're going to stop getting your mail for a bit. If you're concerned about your mail archives being hosted with someone else, then you should keep a local copy using a POP client, no matter what mail provider you happen to put your trust in. - Kevin Fox
I went from using internal gmail at google to using Outlook at my new job, and while I think there are good things and bad things about the two platforms, I miss the speed and portability of gmail, but I like some the task/calendar features in Outlook. If I had my druthers, I'd use gmail. - Ginger Makela Riker
"Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it." Afraid not, Jordi, because GMail Contacts is a big ol' steaming cup of FAIL. When Google gets their act together on Contacts, then Outlook will be threatened. - John Craft
Outlook is a platform for working with "items"... countless times I have dropped into the built-in macro language to do things with my email, tasks, appointments, contacts, etc., that I could never do with a webmail application like Gmail. I wish I could stop using it, because I'll admit it's a hog on resources, but there is no alternative that will do EXACTLY what I want to do like Outlook will with my custom scripts in it. :) - Kenneth LeFebvre
GMail via a web browser is just using IMAP to access/control the mail on the mail server. You can set up Outlook/Thunderbird to access GMail using IMAP. It would be more accurate to say that using the GMail web interface has reduced the number of people using other client applications for accessing their email. - Chris Wright
Why are people comparing apples with oranges here? Client vs service? Thunderbird may beat Outlook, but not Gmail itself. I do recognize the web client is good, but is not nearly as flexible as a standalone. Plus, as has been mentioned by others, I need multiple account processing. Gmail fails at this. Gmail will remain my service of choice in the end. Tbird at home, Outlook at work. - Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, GMail does support multiple accounts, see http://mail.google.com/support... - Shakeel Mahate
@Enver: One example is automatically filling out my weekly timesheet from my calendar. Another example is automatically searching our company's online directory to grab mugshots for all my contacts, so I have their pictures to help me remember who's who... :) This is why I say Outlook is a *platform*. It seems to me that it would be an extraordinary amount of work to use something like Greasemonkey to actually add significant new functionality into Gmail, rather than just enhancing the user experience. - Kenneth LeFebvre
BTW, I'm not knocking Gmail. I actually use it to host my own email domain... I'm just making the case that it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to put Gmail and Outlook in the same category. - Kenneth LeFebvre
Hotmail offline access has been available for over a year now with Windows Live Mail client. Can't make out why the same feature for Gmail is that exciting. They are not the first one to enable this feature. Zoho and Hotmail has been having these for a long time. - Amar Shah
Jeff Jarvis
What Would Google Do? goes on sale today. Begging for Amazonjuice!
Steven Perez
Memo to Robert Scoble: if people, especially Americans, do not know what journalism is, it's because they haven't had any compelling examples of real journalism.
Seriously, find me five people currently on any of the news channels who could seriously be labeled "journalists". - Steven Perez
Ed Bradley, Christiana Amanpour, Morley Safer...there's 3. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
OK, two more. - Steven Perez from IM
And I hesitate adding anyone from CBS, especially after (a) the Jeffrey Weigand debacle, (b) the Dan Rather memo thing and (c) Katie Couric. - Steven Perez
I could only think of the 60 min crew. - Rodfather
I mean, the first guy who came to mind as a true journalist is Greg Palast, and he's over on the BBC. - Steven Perez
Rodfather makes my point. And that's probably only because of the reputation that 60 MINUTES has acquired over the years. - Steven Perez
Jon Stewart and Steve Carrell! - Will Higgins™
And that tells you how bad things are with American media that two comedians (Stewart and Stephen Colbert) are better journalists than the people who are actually paid to be journalists. - Steven Perez
Except on PBS, Spidra. And on his website. - Steven Perez
Glen: who do you think of as a real journalist? - Steven Perez
Lara Logan: Prior to 2002, Lara Logan covered wars and turmoil in Zimbabwe, Kosovo, Angola, Mozambique, India, Gaza and the West Bank. From 2002 to now, Logan has reported daily from Iraq and Afghan frontlines, often as a troop imbed. Her coverage has been harrowing, controversially explicit and investigative. And shes freaking hot too. - Carlos Ayala
Define "real." Those are all celebrities backed by HUGE teams. There are lots of real journalists all around me. - Robert Scoble
Because I'll tell ya what I think the problem is: people don't want to *be* informed. They want to *feel* informed. That kind of problem cuts across party and ideology and red and blue. That's a problem of perception. And as long as people are too busy to be properly informed, then we'll never have true journalism. - Steven Perez
theres a chick on npr that covered the 'surge'...spanish name...tip of tongue. crazy talent there too. - Carlos Ayala
Spidra: Anne Garrels? - Steven Perez from IM
got it....Lourdes Garcia-Navarro - Carlos Ayala
Any journalist who puts themselves in harms way to get a story is definitely better than me but that is a different argument than what is journalism - Robert Scoble
I think it's not that there isn't real journalism, or real journalists. Over 100 journalists have been killed in Iraq since the start of the war trying to bring us stories. It's just that we don't see those faces any more, if we ever did. We see celebrities reiterating a watered down version of the news real, unknown, journalists risk their lives gathering. - Alix May
reporting does not equal journalism. - Terry O'Fee
I know some real journalists whose profession is journalism and have qualifications in journalism. I don't think Robert Scoble is a journalist. A citizen-journalist or blogger, sure, but just because he's got a lot of followers doesn't mean he's a journalist to me. - Will Higgins™
Terry: you are wrong. That is exactly what journalism is. - Robert Scoble
I think that Steven's point is well taken though. We don't SEE the real journalists that much anymore. Long gone are the days of Walter Cronkite and Edward R Murrow. Now most of the "news" that we see is cultivated less for its informational value and more for the revenue it generates...So instead of getting informed we are being titillated. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
++ Carlos. I watch MSNBC because I have a crush on Rachel Maddow, but for news I'll take NPR over anything on TV. - Alix May
nonsense. it's an insult to the people who slug their guts out doing this as a job. - Terry O'Fee
Alex: that is true. But the Internet is changing that a bit because we have unlimited supply here but how many read globalvoicesonline.org for instance. - Robert Scoble
Alex: EXACTLY. I've long since given up on American new channels. I have to get my news from overseas or the internet. CNN, MSNBC, FOX - all of these prize flash over actual journalism. To anyone who disagrees with this, try living outside the US for an extended period of time and then coming back and watching the news here. Like stepping onto an alien planet. - Steven Perez from IM
@Alix. Agreed. i cannot think of anything that compares to npr...maybe, just maybe, and by a slim margin...BBC world news, and in very short spurts i might add. - Carlos Ayala
(And for the record: I loves me Rachel Maddow, too.) - Steven Perez from IM
Terry: insisting you are right does not make it so. We covered this topic in depth in journalism school. It is clear you never went. - Robert Scoble
Journalism does NOT require getting paid, either. I know lots of journalists who do it for free. - Robert Scoble
That's why i like watching The ABC in Australia. Noncommerical, it's government funded much like the BBC. They're not rolling in dough and they manage to make intelligent news and current affairs without having to worry about ratings. - Terry O'Fee
and for those who dont know who Lara is there are two great interviews with her. one on cnn owning the bush crew and the other on the daily show: http://piurl.com/14f5 both are must watch-worthy. - Carlos Ayala
Glen: I think I've done a fairly decent job of saying what I think journalism is and isn't. I'll ask again: who do you think of as a real journalist? - Steven Perez
Will: you are clueless about what I do. It is definitely journalism. Look at my videos. That is journalism. My column in Fast Company magazine is journalism. So are many of my photos. So is my blog. So are some of me tweets. - Robert Scoble
robert - how is your opinion any different than mine? i'm sorry, call yourself a journalist if it makes you feel better. - Terry O'Fee
Cuz I'll tell you: I watched the media (you know, the same bunch who chant "Watergate" like a mantra) over the last eight years sleepwalk their way into two wars without ever questioning what was going on, only to finally find a spine when the city of New Orleans got wiped off the map. Something happening far away? Meh. Maybe we'll get around to checking that out. American city gets flattened? OMG WHERE'S THE DRINKING WATER? - Steven Perez
Putting a bookmark here, cuz I really need to go to sleep. Good conversation, all. - Steven Perez
Terry: you said "reporting does not equal journalism." That is NOT true. Reporting +IS+ journalism. I care about this stuff because I CARE about language. Which, it is obvious, you do not. Go read the dictionary definition of journalism again, please. - Robert Scoble
1. a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism. 2. a person who keeps a journal, diary, or other record of daily events. - Robert Scoble
crikey.com.au - now THAT is proper journalism. - Terry O'Fee
The problem with US journalism is not the lack of totally unbiased reporting. The problem is there's a lack of reporting of basic facts on many issues. People should be able to process facts themselves but mainstream media in the US, for whatever reason, gives such a limited amount of information they might as well not report at all. Scoble is right, reporting *is* journalism and by this simple benchmark mainstream US journalism fails. Except Amy Goodman (http://democracynow.org) of course. - Boris Gordon
According to definition #2 a twitterer is a journalist. That is true. So is a blogger. So is a reporter. So is a photographer, if he practices the occupation of journalism (which I do). So is a videoographer, if they practice the occupation or profession of journalism (which I do). So is a writer in a magazine (which I do too). - Robert Scoble
Boris: there is plenty of reporting going on, but how many people care? http://news.google.com or http://www.memeorandum.com -- how many people have visited these sites today? I guarantee you not nearly as many as have gone to Perez Hilton. - Robert Scoble
so that makes siskel and ebert journalists. they report about movies :P - Terry O'Fee
or the new guy. woops :P - Terry O'Fee
BTW, Robert: I'm not saying you aren't a journalist. You have a field of expertise that you report on regularly and in a professional manner. My point is that, if people don't have a clear concept on what makes a journalist, we need only look at the tube or pick up a newspaper to find the reason why. - Steven Perez from IM
i'd like to think that the reason we have blogs/tweets/feeds and the like, that are driven by ordinary people (read: not traditionally trained journalists) is to fill the void that the 'news' has created. there is a reason for all of this. - Carlos Ayala
That second definition is kinda broad, though. If I'm reading that correctly, then anyone with a MySpace blog is a journalist. Which makes lonelygirl19 a journalist. THAT can't be right. :) - Steven Perez from IM
People will know journalism when they read it. Period. - tpy
exactly, rob. you do a lot of work, lot of research into what you do. you get paid. i am not talking about you. there's a lot of people out there who just blog. they write about whatever, they do it for fun. they regurgitate the same information from other profesional websites. does that make them journalists? - Terry O'Fee
But doesn't a real journalist need to adhere to certain ethical standards? - Victor Ganata
Scoble: There's no lack of available information, but presentation matters and this is where *mainstream* US journalism does damage. I think that people have strayed from mainstream news for the simple reason that the quality of reporting is of such poor quality. A viewer is lucky to get half the story on important issues and people aren't that dumb and would rather spend their time elsewhere than put up with such junky journalism. - Boris Gordon
Robert -- I agree that some of what you do is journalism, but working journalists don't have the luxury of taking off their journalist hat when they post to Twitter or broadcast on another medium. You can't say, "I'm a journalist when I write for Fast Company, but not when I post to Twitter." Because that removes all accountability of having to get your facts straight, verify stuff you retweet (like the Fox News debacle you helped propel earlier today) and answering for what you post. - Omar Gallaga
You might be a journalist of some sort, but that doesn't automatically mean you're a GOOD journalist. - Omar Gallaga
CNN's Michael Ware tends to tell it like it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - he's covered Iraq for (far too many) years and has always been straight up I think. He's a top journo. - Richard Kastelein
Real time raw information is a big improvement for me. Al Jazeera English's twitter posts on Gaza has been instrumental in staying informed of every event and fact (including who on the ground is making the claim). Reconciling it with news reporting later on lets me judge the gap between fact and reporting for myself. - Boris Gordon
Also, if you're limiting the list of good journalists to TV (which you shouldn't), Jim Lehrer should be on that list. - Omar Gallaga
http://www.chris-floyd.com (Chris Floyd) is a one of the great American OP/ED writers I think. Largely unknown in the US though - this son of a baptist preacher in Tennessee wrote for the Moscow Times for ten years and is now based in the UK where he works for Oxford University. - Richard Kastelein
The debate over "who's a journalist" has been over for years. Here's the short answer: anyone (professional or amateur) who creates a work of journalism. It could be an amateur committing a random act of journalism. It could be a professional journalist doing it for a living. (And this thread woefully underestimates the journalism being practiced in cities all across the country. But that's par for the course on the Web.) Bottom line: It's the act that counts, not the person or credentials. - JD Lasica
I agree with Scoble that Journalism is storytelling. I think it all comes down to who you think tells a story well. All journalists have some take on a topic, unless we have newsbots at CNN. I will often read different outlets takes on an issue to contrast different opinions. I watch the Rachel Maddow show because I sometimes want a liberal take, but I'll also get another view to contrast it with. I enjoy people like Laporte and Scoble because their mostly enthusiastic about tech and thats just fun to watch - Woody
Omar: sorry, the stuff that gets into a magazine is higher quality than the stuff that gets onto Twitter. My magazine stuff has an editor and a fact-checking crew. Oh, and a lawyer. And a boss. And all that. My tweets have none of that. They are me and me alone. - Robert Scoble
Omar: exactly, but we weren't talking about what makes a GOOD journalist. We were just defining the term "journalism." Victor: no, "real" journalists have no ethical standards. There is NO common ethical standards that all journalists adhere to. - Robert Scoble
Terry: if a blogger/Twitterer/MySpacer/Facebook has a Google ad and makes revenue they are a journalist by #1 definition and are defacto #2 definition too. - Robert Scoble
JD is a real journalist, by the way, so I'll go by his definition. :-) - Robert Scoble
I don't get this whole 'real journalism' meme. (And I'm curious which country people are thinking of when they're talking about 'real journalists'?) - Steven Byrnes
I consider these people below great OP/ED journalists. Opinion writers. They all write for me at http://www.atlanticfreepress.com - and some are qualified 'journalists', others are academics and others are simply great bloggers. Point is, they are all fine writers. Walter Brasch, Mike Whitney, Jason Leopold, Mark Crispin Miller, Dave Lindorff, Mickey Z, William Blum, Stephen Lendman,... more... - Richard Kastelein
like somebody who writes fanfic on a geocities website calls themselves an author. whatever. - Terry O'Fee
A lot of 'real news' (that mythical creature) and journalism have been getting replaced by infotainment for as long as I can remember. (I wince every time my wife has the TV news on.) But part of me thinks that's ok. Because the total amount of news, and availability, are increasing. The fourth estate is increasing in size (or it's shrinking & the fifth estate is replacing it); all of these Internet-backed communications channels are improving the timeliness & increasing the volume. - Steven Byrnes
Problems I see: signal to noise is getting worse, but then again, fewer gatekeepers telling us what's "today's big story / issue". - Steven Byrnes
Lots of important issues & stories are still getting missed by the average person; abuses of power by gov't, regional conflicts around the world (ex middle east). - Steven Byrnes
I started writing a rambling thought, but then I realized it was aimed at news / journalism that covers politics & gov't, and decided to back it up a bit... I guess from my point of view, 'real journalist' or not isn't important as: are people staying well informed about the world. - Steven Byrnes
Well, I certainly wouldn't trust any sources of information that don't adhere to some sorts of ethical standards, whatever they may be. - Victor Ganata
But speaking of which, we compartmentalize news into different areas: Politics / Gov't, Business, Tech, etc. I follow a lot of different areas. But one thing that sometimes drives me mad is the narrow focus. They talk about some gov't issue that might overlap with tech, or business, or science, but it's often seems written from that one angle. Sometimes I'll see a story where a problem is presented, and I think "Oh, that's got an easy <tech | science> solution." - Steven Byrnes
But that's a rant for another day... - Steven Byrnes
So anyone who ever wrote a letter to their grandma is a journalist... and you know, I'm cool with that! BUT how do we have a discussion about the quality of Journalism (which is where this discussion started I believe)? What terminology should Steven have used? - Alistair (alpinefolk)
"... no compelling examples of 5 star journalism" ? - Alistair (alpinefolk)
Actually Robert, I remember you voicing frustration at the lack of accurate reporting about the tech sector in China. - Alistair (alpinefolk)
John Simpson, Jeremy Bowen, Brian Hanrahan, Kate Adie, Jon Snow. All top rate journalists and that's just off the top of my head. - Nicola Quinn
Alistair: no, the conversation was about journalism. Period. Not "good vs. bad." Most people I find have no clue what journalism is, but yet they try to define it. But, now that we have, I'm cool with discussing what is good and what is bad journalism. Although that is as hard as defining porn. I know it when I see it. - Robert Scoble
Nathan Chase
QUESTION: Is there a web tool that tells which of your Twitter friends/followers are inactive? As in hasn't posted a tweet in X days/months?
well it seems like it would be easy enough to create - you can read a user's friends' posts like so: http://twitter.com/statuse... - seems like just pulling the dates out of the returned data, associated with each username, and then sorting by oldest to newest... wish I was a programmer, I'd build it myself - Nathan Chase
Aha! Brandon, thank you! - FYI @totspot, @teejayhanton - http://www.mycleenr.com - Nathan Chase
You might also want to try Twitter Karma - Corvida
Dave Winer
JB, the reason no one else has a Twitter Search is that without access to the firehose, they can't do it. http://battellemedia.com/archive...
He hasn't been following the space closely, he admits. :) - Steve Gillmor
Paul Buchheit
Derek Powazek - Things I Learned the Hard Way: Ignore the Content - http://powazek.com/posts/1646
"Apply this to web communities. Say a well-known site, say, redesigns their homepage. The new version could be better in every objective way, but users will still freak out. Why? It’s not the content - it’s something deeper. The freakouts mean, “I love this site, I feel ownership of it, and you changed it, and that makes me mad.” When you look at it that way, you can see why a reasonable, factual response on why the new design is better will not work. Instead, you have to address the feelings behind the complaint. For example: “You’re a valuable member, and we really appreciate how much time and energy you’ve put into the site. We know change can be hard, and we appreciate you writing to tell us your feelings. We think the new version is better, but you don’t have to agree. All we ask is that you give it a little time. See how you feel about it next week, and write us again. We’re grateful for your participation, and sincerely thank you for your feedback.”" - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
from comments: "Great post, thanks! I will keep it clutched in my hand for reference this year while our company redesigns our website “with the members’s needs in mind.” In my other hand, I’ll have Horton Hears a Who." - Count Caturday
Paul Buchheit
Marijuana May Fight Lung Tumors - http://www.webmd.com/lung-ca...
"In the new study, the researchers first demonstrated that THC inhibited the growth and spread of cells from two different lung cancer cell lines and from patient lung tumors. Then, they injected THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells. After three weeks, tumors shrank by about 50%, compared with tumors in untreated mice." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Jeremiah Owyang
Lesson: Someday something bad could happen to you (god forbid) have you taken care of your community so they'll help you back?
pay it forward, always. - Morgan
Even if you do, they may not always/can not always help for whatever reason as history often shows, but God will never forsake you. Still, if it is in your power, continue to help those around you whether they can pay you back or not, because God will reward you if you do. - Melanie Reed
I might add that you and I may be tested for awhile and the reward may not be when you and I THINK we need it.;)...but it will always be right on time. God is never late...we are often lacking courage or too impatient or both. - Melanie Reed
Louis Gray
No, Tech Blogs Should Not Shut Up About Twitter - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Post by Eric Berlin: http://friendfeed.com/ebrage - Louis Gray
good column - R. Ferguson
It's self fulfilling. If you post incessantly about service X, guess what... service X grows. It's not rocket science. Feedback look, echo chamber... call it what you will. - Ken Sheppardson
I find it funny that there's two Twitter posts on friendfeed's "best of" page today. THAT is why you'll continue seeing us talk about Twitter. Everytime I write about Twitter I get more traffic. - Robert Scoble
Sure, I think there's some of that, but the same is true for any popular topic. I also think it gets a lot of coverage for the reasons I lay out in the piece. :-) - Eric Berlin
Jeremiah Owyang
Robert Scoble
If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:
1. Stop begging for followers. It turns off all the interesting people. - Robert Scoble
2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment. - Robert Scoble
3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre." - Robert Scoble
I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-) - Warren
4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise. - Robert Scoble
Sounds like someone's running low on wine :) - Eric Florenzano
5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from. - Robert Scoble
6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards. - Robert Scoble
7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-) - Robert Scoble
Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back. - Robert Scoble
What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas? - Dave Cadoff
9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot. - Robert Scoble
LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction" - Sprite
10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already. - Robert Scoble
Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible. - Jesse Stay
11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face. - Robert Scoble
BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers - Jesse Stay
Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it. - Robert Scoble
Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead? - Will Higgins™
12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked). - Robert Scoble
I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers. - Mike Nayyar
13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you. - Robert Scoble
14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble
er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
15. Tweet from a burning plane. - Robert Scoble
16. Tweet from jail. - Robert Scoble
17. Tweet your marriage proposal. - Robert Scoble
Robert, so you're saying I got you more followers? - Jesse Stay
18. Tweet you are dying. - Robert Scoble
19. Be a member of congress, or better yet, Barack Obama. - Robert Scoble
This would loose me followers. Trust me on this. It would also get me a few lawsuits I think. :D - MarkCarras
this is going to go on for like...days...isn't it :P - Erin @queenofspain
#18 is reasonable, as long as you don't actually die. Lowers your productivity. - Ken Brady
Jesse: hanging out with you made me far cooler than I was previously. - Robert Scoble
If I'm gonna get naked, I've got to have some sort of revenue coming in. At least enough to buy a netbook with. - MiniMage
Write a FriendFeed post about how to get others to follow you - Jesse Stay
20. Get your picture on the Twitter blog. (Actually that didn't work that well because they didn't include my Twitter address). Heheh. - Robert Scoble
be yourself and those that fit with you will follow? or at least seem a certain way for that audience? - David
21. Tweet while having sex. Or getting drunk. Or, better yet, doing both. - Robert Scoble
Robert, no, I must say I became much cooler hanging out with you - Jesse Stay
Will: Mead? Absolutely! - Robert Scoble
Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-) - Robert Scoble
22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!! - Robert Scoble
Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man - Jesse Stay
23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it. - Robert Scoble
24. Write a book about Twitter. - Robert Scoble
naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else? - Erin @queenofspain
25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart. - Robert Scoble
Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it - Chris Saad
WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground. - Baba
26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch. - Robert Scoble
I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D - MarkCarras
27. Question @loic's Frenchness. - Robert Scoble
Go to breakfast with @techcrunch and he tweets about it randomly - Chris Saad
"Have Scoble say you are interesting." Just worked for a few people I am going to "try follow". - Dean Clark
Erin, welcome to Twitter ;-) - Jesse Stay
28. Be like Baba and call everyone who worries about being followed an idiot. Or 28B. Agree with Baba. Personally, he's right! - Robert Scoble
Tell any blogger they're wrong - Jesse Stay
29. Claim you are above this stupid game. - Robert Scoble
Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months - Jesse Stay
All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D - MarkCarras
30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people. - Robert Scoble
lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow - Erin @queenofspain
What kind of wine are we talking here? - Chris Poirier
Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :) - Jesse Stay
31: Give away something. Hold a contest. - Robert Scoble
Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer - Chris Saad
32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them. - Robert Scoble
be in a warzone and don't die - Simon T Small
33. Do something outrageous for followers. - Robert Scoble
Start a thread going on and on about it on FriendFeed :) - Chris Saad
imagine what'd happen if you had sex with Obama on a burning plane heading for a warzone, whilst drunk, and piloting the plane? - Simon T Small
@Simon ROFL too funny - Chris Saad
34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers. - Robert Scoble
Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D - Chris Saad
Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps - Jesse Stay
35. Get your Twitter address on CNN. UPDATE: Hey, Chris Saad here you have to put http://www.friendfeed.com/chrissa... heheh. - Robert Scoble
Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol - Erin @queenofspain
I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread. - Jesse Stay
Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P - Molly Song ;)
be Robert Scoble - Simon T Small
36. Jesse Stay found a new one: comment on lots of friendfeed threads! - Robert Scoble
@simontsmall post your Twitter feed here http://twitter.com/simonts... - Simon T Small
Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers - Jesse Stay
Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you - Paul Povolni
I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D - MarkCarras
I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers - Simon T Small
Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes. - Robert Scoble
37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering. - Robert Scoble
I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D - MarkCarras
38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame. - Robert Scoble
Robert: haha! I'll try it now :) - Simon T Small
39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan. - Robert Scoble
Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post - Ian D. Nock
40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble
41. Go to Gnomedex. - Robert Scoble
Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy. - Anika
Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it! - Simon T Small
No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit - Erin @queenofspain
42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration. - Robert Scoble
I figured it out before Jeremiah: http://staynalive.com/article... - Jesse Stay
43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream). - Robert Scoble
Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain - Jesse Stay
44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior. - Robert Scoble
Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff! - Colleen
45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter. - Robert Scoble
46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon. - Robert Scoble
Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-) - Robert Scoble
Don't forget the with @mchammer part - Jesse Stay
Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback - Chris Saad
47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room). - Robert Scoble
Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone - Chris Saad
48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does. - Robert Scoble
49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet. - Robert Scoble
Got any more? - Robert Scoble
Throw popularity out the window and somehow measure influence (stay tuned) :) - Chris Saad
Make a list of ways to get more followers. - Scott Kingery
change your name to your @twitter handle - Simon T Small
Chris: hah, even better, have so many followers already that you break MrTweet. :-) - Robert Scoble
50. Post cleavage pictures of yourself with your Twitter name plastered on the picture CLASSY! - Mona Nomura
Ustream the birth of your new baby (even higher risk, but at least you have proof): http://www.ustream.tv/blog... - Jesse Stay
51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that? - Mona Nomura
Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned - Simon T Small
This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness - Paul Povolni
52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN! - Mona Nomura
Be Warren Buffett or similar. - Moushumi Kabir
Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better. - Robert Scoble
53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY - Mona Nomura
54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email! - Mona Nomura
Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side) - Simon T Small
Be a default on FriendFeed - Jesse Stay
Nice to see this list here instead of scattered across oblivion---I mean Twitter... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
use http://search.twitter.com to find people that like what you like, @reply them and RT their stuff. :) - Simon T Small
Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you. - Robert Scoble
Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!) - Mona Nomura
Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends - Chris Saad
Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't. - Andrew Smith
Get your name on Alltop - Jesse Stay
another posting sponsored by Palm *yawn* - Dieter Schwarz from Nambu
Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids. - Mona Nomura
Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;) - Mona Nomura
Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too - Jesse Stay
@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me - Chris Saad
Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES! - Mona Nomura
Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :) - Chris Saad
Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well - Jesse Stay
Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing! - Mona Nomura
Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account). - Robert Scoble
Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook. - Simon T Small
i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger - Andreas Klinger
Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-) - Robert Scoble
Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea) - Jesse Stay
Robert: U do both so its all good :) - Chris Saad
Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity. - Scott Kingery
55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos. - Robert Scoble
Get a tshirt made with your twitter name on it... - Luke Harvey-Palmer
Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem. - Jesse Stay
So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D - MarkCarras
Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten. - Robert Scoble
Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear - MiniMage
Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?) - Jesse Stay
MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft. - Robert Scoble
Spam FF with your useful knowledge - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Be an early adopter - be one of the first, get in early, and build a follow base early - Jesse Stay
Another one? Take pictures of Twitter users and follow them. They almost always follow back. - Robert Scoble
I aint never heard of Don Box, and that means I didn't see that underwear! ;). No, seriously, I concede, but I had to make a retort. - MiniMage
This thread is my bucket list. - Eric Florenzano
I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them. - Helge V. Keitel
Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag). - Jesse Stay
Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?" - Robert Scoble
Never sleep - Jesse Stay
#ces09 hash #mwsf09 tags #cwc09 use #sxsw09 them #snl as #jackiepetersspawn much · #gaza as #hiphop possible #burritos every #dubstep other #microblogging word = KEY (relevance matters not) - Mona Nomura
Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works). - Robert Scoble
@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too - Chris Saad
Mona you are *so* followed - Jesse Stay
Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too! - Robert Scoble
Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back. - Leslie Carothers
Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag - Jesse Stay
I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :( - Mona Nomura
Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list? - Robert Scoble
I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you. - Mari Smith
58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you... - Sheraz Mahmood
ROFL Robert! - Jesse Stay
share links to awesome blog posts - Simon T Small
Sheraz Mahmood I just tried that, thought i'd do something, but 10 minutes later and nothing *cries* - Simon T Small
59. Be the center of the universe...the rest will follow - Sheraz Mahmood
Unnecessarily talk about iPhones. - Mona Nomura
Start browser wars. - Mona Nomura
Re-Tweet all of Tech Crunch's posts. - Mona Nomura
Start Steve Jobs rumors - Mona Nomura
Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them. - Mona Nomura
By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble
write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money. - Simon T Small
Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry - Simon T Small
Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :) - Scott Kingery
Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe - Mari Smith
60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must. - Louis Gray
Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter - Simon T Small
Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd. - Mona Nomura
Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed! - Mona Nomura
Mona: absolutely! :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-) - Ken Brady
Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;) - videopixil
When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY. - Mona Nomura
Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them. - Luca Filigheddu from fftogo
Have a sense of humor! - Mona Nomura
@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says. - Ken Brady
@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well. - Leslie Carothers
Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows. - Yuvi
better yet. take Robert AND Louis to a Vodka bar - Erin @queenofspain
OMG iPhones are SO 2008. Becoming a Palm, Pre, and Nova fanbois = FUTURE - Mona Nomura
@Mona Humor is key. What better length at which to be witty? Any longer than this and most of us become dull. - Ken Brady
Robert, I kinda bagged you, with a positive spin, it got me on openzap 'today's best' http://openzap.com/ - Simon T Small
This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships. - Leslie Carothers
Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;) - Helge V. Keitel
Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good. - Robert Scoble
Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter. - Mona Nomura
Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :( - Mona Nomura
This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -] - Chris Loft
Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured. - Mona Nomura
Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool. - Mona Nomura
stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try... - Ryan
mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo) - Matt Rendo
Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool. - Mona Nomura
All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself. - B.J. Mendelson
@mattrendo, already been said up there! But you FAIL since you forgot the hashtag: #scoblizerrulesOMGWTFBACON. - Mona Nomura
Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-) - Robert Scoble
So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks? - Chris Saad
Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time. - Leslie Carothers
I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;) - Rodney Rumford
If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;) - Mona Nomura
Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are - Jesse Stay
I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned - Matt Rendo
Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay
@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it. - Ken Brady
61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item. - Steve Garfield
Bacon IS the future, Matt! - Mona Nomura
Is this the biggest thread ever on FriendFeed? - Eric Florenzano
Get Rodney Rumford to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay
This is an EPIC thread. Thank you Robert and THANK YOU INTERNET! - Mona Nomura
62: Follow Steve Garfield in a Scoble numbered list - Jesse Stay
I wonder how long it will take Friendfeed to add comment ratings like Digg? - Simon T Small
Hey Mr. Scoble! You make it sound like a bad thing to be online on a Saturday night. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto
Refrain from hijacking someone's thread by digressing with bacon - Focus, Matt. FOCUS! - Mona Nomura
Hilarious thread BTW!! - Eddie Soto
Content is king!!!!!!! (Mona see, 7) - Amit Morson
See... Me=failure A sense of humor seems to attract followers too. - Matt Rendo
Memorize this entire thread by EOD Monday and recite it back to Robert - on video! - Mona Nomura
Re-Tweet all 264 lines Googleplex times - or until the FailWhale / FailRobot appears. - Mona Nomura
Talk about how much you love Twitter and Facebook. - dont' forget the hashtags: pound facebook pound twitter. - Mona Nomura
Jesse. OK. Now I am smiling man... lol. By the way thanks for writing the afterword for my twitter book: Twitter as a Business Tool. - Rodney Rumford
Deem yourself a Social Network Expert and write a bajillion blog posts on "How to Use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura
Oops. Sorry Rodney. Bad timing... :) - Mona Nomura
Be consistently random - wait, no, then they will unfollow you :( - Matt Rendo
Always use emoticons as disclaimers! - Mona Nomura
What is this thread about?. I forgot by the time I read to the end of it. - Jim Bednarz
Bash on mattrendo - Matt Rendo
Always use *this* emoticon: :-) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Have foot in mouth moments. Oh, wait... - Mona Nomura
63: Profit!! - Aaron Baer
Be a spam artist - Matt Rendo
Follow everyone posting here - Sheraz Mahmood
back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters - Sheraz Mahmood
I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next? - Liz
Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes. - Matt Rendo
Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while. - Phil Glockner
You forgot to add being Karl Rove to the list: http://twitter.com/KarlRov... - Roberto Bonini
Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof! - Dave
Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog. - Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed. - Amit Morson
To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme! - Jesse P. Luna
@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up. - Mona Nomura
Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Chris Loft
Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW! - Sally Church
One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it. - Iphigenie
I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-) - Paul Shadwell
I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto
Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you - Bertrand Doux
On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... * - Sally Church
Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this! - Kevin Lloyd
Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :) - Christopher Kusek
I'm using Windows 7 right now! I've posted tweets and videos of it on YouTube - check it out! http://friendfeed.com/e... - Will Higgins™
Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it. - Iphigenie
Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[ - Chris Loft
point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :))) - A. T.
64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep - Tyler (Chacha)
65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning - Tyler (Chacha)
66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it) - Tyler (Chacha)
You guys are awesome by the way. - Tyler (Chacha)
Tattoo your twitter/friendfeed address on other people. - Kevin Leroux
lmao!!! great one Robert - Kaysha
get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble. - Christine Lu
Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..) - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in! - Gaby K. Slezák
A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !! - İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world. - Bob Starr
RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;) - John Craft
RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm? - Alvin
Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :) - Alvin
67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-) - Gaby K. Slezák
stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway - Stephen Breen
You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands! - John D Reasor
yet still looking busy kthxbai - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Stop caring who follows you! - Elias Bizannes
I can't scroll to the bottom ;-) This list is hilarious! Robert, I'm glad you have been taking notes this whole time! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Do NOT use the phrase "social media" in your Twitter bio. - Frank Scavo
"16. Tweet from jail" ahahahahahahaha :) - disconnesso
I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh. - Chris Loft
Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;) - Tyson Key
Post a picture of you with someone famous... http://tinyurl.com/8xbcds - geekazine
“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc - Tapio Kulmala
Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON - BEX
Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference. - Liz
nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me. - tomartomartini
Set up a low-wage tweet farmer in China. - Richard Sprague
Use Jennifer Aniston's cleavage as your avatar. - Jim Mitchem
omg I go to bed and you people KEEP GOING. unreal. - Erin @queenofspain
Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days) - Tyler (Chacha)
Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments! - Tyler (Chacha)
Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted. - iamkhayyam
69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there. - Valeria Maltoni
Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here. - mrsha
I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow! - Robert Scoble
Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-) - Marco Massarotto
Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream! - Tom Guarriello
i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers... - Iphigenie
Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers. - Robert Scoble
Robert - define spam... Is this post spam? - Brian Roy
Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history. - Mike Lewis
You're right! I forgot about the spammers :D - Iphigenie
it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient - Kelly W.
70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc.. - Todd Jordan
It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning". - Brian Roy
patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one) - Iphigenie
How to get Robert et al to follow you - http://friendfeed.com/e... - Todd Jordan
Commentate on sports during the game or politics during debates. - Nicki Laycoax
Put a nice Twitter Icon on your blog like mine http://marketingtechblog.com - Douglas Karr
You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :) - Steven Sanders
Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost. - Todd Jordan
AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7! - Dave Oliver
Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread. - Robert Scoble
It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way. - Daniel Miessler
Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market. - Todd Jordan
OMG this is STILL alive?! WOW - Mona Nomura
Keep it going!!!! - Tyler (Chacha)
I'm wondering at how many comments this will start crashing browsers - Iphigenie
That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles. - Mona Nomura
Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts? - Mona Nomura
@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts. - Todd Jordan
Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa) - Mona Nomura
Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker
Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks! - Brian Roy
Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura
I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around. - Liz
Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No? - Brian Roy
Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert
Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE! - Mona Nomura
Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system. - David Rose
I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations. - Alex Wilhelm
+1 Mona! I'll make a video of this :D - Yuvi
Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys? - Brian Roy
Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :) - Nicola Quinn
PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain) - Jesse P. Luna
Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone! - Mona Nomura
Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s. - Larry Kless
71. Create a list that combines Sex and Windows http://friendfeed.com/e... - Tyler (Chacha)
Hate on someone enough for them to write about you. It worked for Sean Hammons (Clicky) and Techcrunch.......... - Alex Wilhelm
i'm afraid some of those won't quite give you the right kind of followers - Iphigenie
entertain! - kosmar
I'm wondering if everyone who has commented here is at least following each other now. - Nicola Quinn
Nicola - no. I think I have a block on my account that I can't figure out. ;) - Jim Mitchem
Oh dear Jim, that doesn't sound good. Just managed to subscribe to you so that's ok then. - Nicola Quinn
Nicola Quinn: I have not had one new follower from this, but I did have an entertaining conversation. - MarkCarras
There Mark, you've got at least one :) - Nicola Quinn
@nicola you followed me :) - kosmar
Kosmar, I did! You following me? - Nicola Quinn
@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!! - Alemsah Ozturk
Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines. - Mark Stahler
Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed! - Gaby K. Slezák
Wow. 400. - Robert Scoble
Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs! - AdPanda
You can order custom wine labels to bribe Scoble with at http://www.bottleyourbrand.com/ - Gail Gardner
Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol. - Robert Couture
Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread! - Charlie Anzman
Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic? - Susan Beebe
How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill. - Scott Maentz
@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :) - Todd Jordan
Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer - Paul Povolni
Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online! - Mona Nomura
Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant! - Mona Nomura
Complain about every. little. thing. - Mona Nomura
no Mona you are wrong. - Brian Roy
Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS - Mona Nomura
Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop! - Mona Nomura
every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon... - Brian Roy
@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks. - AJ Kohn
oh... Ok. It is hidden now. - Brian Roy
@Brian: Thank you. Greatly appreciated! - AJ Kohn
423 comments? :O - Will Higgins™
I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!! - BEX
I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF - Susan Beebe
The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :) - Eric Florenzano
Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms? - David Feng
I have some ideas, none of which are usable. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble.. - TechMama Beth Blecherman
I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF! - Winston Teo
TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction. - Robert Scoble
You don't. - David Spinks
What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN! - Jim Bednarz
Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right! - Robert Scoble
Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D - Seth Greenblatt
Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :) - Charlie Anzman
Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing. - Mr. Gunn
Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule) - Tyler (Chacha)
Better than the cover of Rolling Stone!! http://blog.twitter.com/2009... - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :) - Charlie Anzman
Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :) - Charlie Anzman
Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts. - Christian Anderson
Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-) - Robert Scoble
Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button! - Yule Heibel
I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread. - MiniMage
doing video works pretty well too :) - Loic Le Meur
great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :) - Alberto D'Ottavi
tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X - Rachael Depp
whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality? - Bob Hitching
And then you hate IM... - Dario Salvelli
I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat. - Simon T Small
Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours - Simon T Small
omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ? - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P - Mathew A. Koeneker
this is so last week... - Edward Zwart
Robert: You need to add one more. "Send Tweets from a Ferry when a plane crashes on the Hudson" like http://twitter.com/jkrums - Alex Sauceda
"Hudson-Plane" and the Web2.0 viralism response http://friendfeed.com/rooms... ; http://friendfeed.com/e... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p - mtlb
This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D - Daniel Schildt
This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW - Sheldon Steiger from twhirl
this stuff works for real! wow! - Siddharth Parmar
I felt like bumping the most discussed conversation ever on Friendfeed. Here ya go - Tyler (Chacha)
or tweet about this friendfeed-post! - bumping ;-) - Torsten Eckert
Become a Needle in a Haystack - geekazine
Have them join up on sprnch and watch them walk around in real time. http://sprnch.com/search_... - SpRnch
Link your Twttter Account @SAMMCOOPERMED on Http://SAMMCOOPER.COM via Twitter Link Pics All over your site! this really workS! - SAMMCOOPERMED
Robert Scoble
No one will talk with you on twitter or friendfeed. Here's 20 ideas of what you should do to get engagement/conversations going:
1. Start a list of something outrageous. Tell some friends who seem to get lots of conversations going about it. Just tweet them with their twitter address like this: @scobleizer in the post. - Robert Scoble
2. Comment on yet another Robert Scoble List - Tyler (Chacha)
2. Comment on other people's threads first. Say smart stuff. Be funny, cute, interesting, etc. Or, throw the "bacon bomb" into the comments. Don't know what the Bacon Bomb is? Ask Mona on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble
ehm.. show some tits? (for ladies) :p - disconnesso
2. Slip @MrTweet a few bills every week. - Liz
Commencing rapid refresh - This should be interesting. - No Name
Chacha: you're getting it. So is Lucio! - Robert Scoble
Be real. Be interesting. Be real interesting. - Ron's Home And Hardware
Add "what do you think?" - Andrew Smith
Robert is on a roll today. What did you have for breakfast??? - Joe Lima
3. Make an outrageous list so other people can comment on it to get followers - Tyler (Chacha)
Talk about getting Robert to follow you? - http://friendfeed.com/e... - Todd Jordan
Robert: Thanks for all these lists. I love the humor mixed with good tips. It's fun! - Mitchell Tsai
3. Follow people who seem to always get conversations going. This is very important on friendfeed because you'll get a sense of what works for them. And, you'll be the first to see the big conversations before anyone else. First post in friendfeed always is seen more. - Robert Scoble
Hello folks, today its I'm-Scoble-And-I'm-Going-To-Do-All-The-Talking day :) - Yuvi
4. Look at http://search.twitter.com and see what is trending. Comment about that. - Robert Scoble
@Scobleizer "lists" work for everything, blog posts, microblog posts, grocery shopping... They're effective for starting conversation and getting things done. If anything - that's the "gimme" in this list. - No Name
I was SO tempted to comment "first!" when I saw this pop up at 43 seconds. Urge controlled. - Phil Glockner
Ask a specific (appropriately geeky) question - Prunella
5. Look at "Best of Day" on friendfeed and ignore it. - Robert Scoble
be authentic... we can tell when you are fishing for attention... - Brian Roy
Robert: Are you making lists so people can meet each other and get followed? - Tyler (Chacha)
6. If you are talking about stuff on Techmeme you are too late. That news is always an hour late. Instead, use http://www.techfuga.com and get into the conversations that are happening now. - Robert Scoble
7. Rif on something smart that one of the smart people say. Dave Winer, Tim O'Reilly, Steve Gillmor, etc. - Robert Scoble
Make a list of Top Tweets of 2008 and Send a message to everyone on that list telling them they are there. ;-) http://twurl.nl/tbo2ll - David Petherick
Chacha: I'm making lists because I'm playing with a new form that is enabled by both Twitter and friendfeed. I call it "interactive blogging." - Robert Scoble
8. Post a picture of bacon. But you've gotta put something unusual into it. A picture of Mike Arrington, for instance. - Robert Scoble
9. Teach people how to do something new. - Robert Scoble
10. Complaining that no one is paying attention to you on twitter or friendfeed might work. Once or twice. But then we remember that's all you do and that you aren't bringing any value. So, long term this will hurt you. Plus, there's always someone who is begging who has a better beg. - Robert Scoble
"Talk to me, like lovers do...." - Bora Zivkovic
Announce a list and let other ppl write it for you - Trung Ly
I think Jim Rome's advice to callers to his show (so they don't get 'run') applies: "Have a take, don't suck." - Patrick Jordan
11. Click "Like" on 100 new things that caught your eye. We do see that and we do notice that you're adding important meta data to the system. Even if we don't notice you'll have 100 new friendfeed items to comment on now. Just visit the "me" tab and then click on "Likes" over on the right side and you'll see them all. - Robert Scoble
12. Have sex with someone who always has lots of comments. Have Duncan Riley post pictures! - Robert Scoble
12. Follow more people. That is probably the fastest way. - Alex Wilhelm
13. Get laid off. But have a great story. Even better? Start a room on friendfeed for people to talk with you about your future. - Robert Scoble
You forgot about re-tweeting this post :) - Jim Reynolds
Prunella gets it! It is easier to comment on things if you ask a question that is interesting! - Robert Scoble
Challenge a high profile Twitterer who is incapable of not responding to critique. You'll get at least a few Tweets back & forth, probably mostly negative but people will know who you are and either think you're an inspired rebel or an ass. - Liz
Don't participate in other people's threads but constantly complain how no one notices you! - Mona Nomura
What about also admitting ignorance? I find that helps. - Todd Jordan
14. Get someone who gets lots of comments to "Like" your item. This takes getting to know a few people and what they like. It also might mean giving them a phone call, sending them email, chatting with them on Facebook, or generally stalking them. Social media is great for stalking. I know everything that Guy Kawasaki and Tim O'Reilly are thinking due to social media. Hint, we're all egotistical baaahhhssstttaaarrrddddssss and we all look at our replies in Twitter. Just include @scobleizer in your tweet!!! - Robert Scoble
hahahhahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!! <---laugh at all of Robert's jokes wiht a bajillion exclamation points to get noticed. Bonus points for wine! - Mona Nomura
Todd: you're onto something there. Chris Pirillo does this. He asks his followers tech questions. I do to. "How do you backup your stuff?" got lots of comments because I needed to know what's the best way to do it. I was ignorant on the topic and my followers taught me (and everyone else). - Robert Scoble
15. Say something outrageous like "Palm Pre kills the iPhone." Oh, wait, that's not outrageous, it's just a fact that hasn't been widely understood yet. Heheh. Seriously, take on Apple and you are almost guaranteed a conversation. You just gotta be prepared for the backlash. - Robert Scoble
Today's list is looking a lot like last night's list. Why 20? - Liz
Do you see why Mona gets more comments on her items than anyone else I know? Bing! Well, that and she posts GREAT pictures and little funny items. - Robert Scoble
Robert? Regarding number two: It's Bacon Explosion, not bacon bomb! - Mona Nomura
16. Post great pictures and funny little items like Mona. - Robert Scoble
17. Baby photos. Louis Gray. Enough said. - Robert Scoble
18. Tell a retweetable story. Chris Brogan has this down. Study what he is doing and do it better. - Robert Scoble
Robert - he stepped up his baby picture game and cartoonized his photos. He raised the bar!! - Mona Nomura
19. Hang out with people who get lots of conversations going. Go to lots of events where friendfeeders and twitterers hang out. Here's a list: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user... - Robert Scoble
Liz: if you do a list it doesn't matter how many items you promise as long as you get to the number you are promising. Something about lists is conversational. This is why magazines put numbers on their covers so often "7 ways to please your lover." Etc. Etc. If I were really smart I'd do a list like "7 ways Windows 7 will increase your sex life." Hah, that might be my next list! - Robert Scoble
Tim: having something interesting to say is NOT a prerequisite for getting people to comment on your items. I have many examples of proof. - Robert Scoble
20. Talk about Daft Punk and why they are or aren't the downfall of the next generation. - Robert Scoble
Post flamebait - Bwana ☠
Got any others? Seriously, if you aren't getting noticed here it's probably because you are posting things that aren't conversational. I'm watching tons of inbound from everyone on this list and looking for things to engage with. You can see the items that I like here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Robert Scoble
I love talking about how Daft Punk, Radiohead, and Coldplay suck and are nothing but three piece suit rock made safe for wussys. :P - MarkCarras
21. Practice - try talking to people in the real world. - Brian Roy
Is there an rss feed for Techfuga? - Cindyg
Mona N. Haha...sweet! Thank-you - Cindyg
Daft Punk is definitely an innovator through its music and its marketing, whether one likes them or not - Bertrand Doux
I always hear 80's New Wave when someone shows me a song that shows how "Innovative" they are. Sorry. Homogenized, sterilized, and watered down for the for the masses. - MarkCarras
MarkCarras, looks like we are not on the same line. Meanwhile you can all enjoy here: http://tinyurl.com/8zlmap :-) - Bertrand Doux
22. Do a book report using FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... - B2B Specialist
Nice list, hard to follow in FF, with all these bullet points hijackers. - Jeremy Chone
Start a Room and Invite a ton of people to it, then post a ton of goodies over there and get BUZZZZZZZZ goin' on - Susan Beebe
Ok, these list are getting better and better. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
23. Post something on Friendfeed poking fun at something that Robert Scoble has been doing lately. :P http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I wouldn't consider the posts between the bullets as highjackers. It's all part of the conversation and makes it so much more interesting as an interactive list than just a list of 20 things thrown out for our consumption. - Ernie Oporto from Nambu
Make a post on your blog featuring this list - then get Mona mad at you for plugging your site (yummm...bacon) ;-) - http://www.listropolis.com/2009... - shaun mclane
Try and ignore how much like high-school the FF/TW popularity game is and get on with something interesting. Then FF/TW. - Chris Cotsapas
S60 is the new iPhone! ;) - Tyson Key
Robert Scoble
One more thing from Palm: Touchstone, wireless charging
Very nice and very in Apple's face. - Robert Scoble from email
A little Tesla Action up in there! - Zach Holmquist
Wireless power?? How is that possible? Or am I not getting it? - Xtel
So, instead of plugging it in, you have to sit it next to something.. Big whoop. - Nick Shue
awesome! - barl0w
Christel: I'm with you on wireless charging, interesting.. - Simon Wicks
That's pretty awesome, i'd like to see that in action! - Michael Jacques
Assuming it is a bit like Tesla proposed : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Zach Holmquist
I am sure its just inductive and they are licensing it from someone, no patents were ever filed by Palm on this recently. Also inductive charging usually takes significantly more time to charge a device and generates more heat. Good step though if they have worked this out.. - Jeremy Krall
Lightening? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I already have a device with wireless charging. I use it all the time. It is called an electric toothbrush. - gfurry
HTML/CSS/JS for apps seems weak. They keep mentioning it. I don't see a Shazaam or Qik being built if that's all they have to work with. - Paul Arterburn
mobile industry is getting hotter by the day! all this heated competition in getting cooler handsets and mobile frameworks is a huge win for the consumers! - Kiran Patchigolla
yes, not that new, what is the big benefit for wireless charging unless the syncing is wireless as well? - Keith
it has wifi and bluetooth so I am guessing the wireless syncing will be there - Jeremy Krall
Is the charging station plugged in directly to the outlet or is there an extension cord missing from that pic? - Lee Hsieh
Believe it or not, Amway Global has a water treatment system that powers the system's UV lamp using this technology, which one of their divisions holds several patents on: http://ecoupled.com/index.html. By powering the UV lamp in this way, you can replace the lamp as a unit without worrying about wired connections wearing out. The patent document for the water treatmetnt system: http://ecoupled.com/pdf... - Craig Eddy
I'm pretty sure my toothbrush has been doing this since like 2001. - Blake Thomas
zomg, this is cool. (gadget nerd alert) - rab from twhirl
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Robert Scoble
If Milan is lost ... Read the T-shirt. Photo here:
Never again will he be lost, from the internet at least. - Tyler (Chacha)
Is that your little munchkin? - MarkCarras
Yes, this is a desperate attempt to keep up with Louis Gray's cute kids photos. - Robert Scoble
Heh, too funny!! - Stuart Dallas
Why is it upside down? - Tyler (Chacha)
Mark: yeah, that's Milan, our 15-month old son. - Robert Scoble
Hahaha, that's great. The next generation of the much used "if lost" spiel. - Steven (optionshiftk)
LOL! really a good one :) - Veetrag
Chacha: because he wouldn't stand still and that's the way I shot it with my iPhone. Sort of eye catching, though. - Robert Scoble
Like Gatorade's "G" commercials today, he has to make us work to figure out what the hell the marketing message is about. - James D Kirk
Robert has a website? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
But...how long will it take for Milan's pa to stop reading FF and see the comment? ;) - MiniMage
Yep, made me look at it :) - Tyler (Chacha) from IM
You have no idea how close this is to my; lightbulb, $$, disengorge the corrupt medical complex moment, that concept is for me. And you're probably tired of advice, but Robert, let him fall asleep on you as long as he still fits. Those days are irretrievable, and the peak of life :) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
WorldofHeight... Where have you been? - Tyler (Chacha) from IM
WorldofHiglet: he'll be on friendfeed soon enough. He already knows how the iPhone works. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm sure you have made him a twitter account already. - Steven (optionshiftk)
Shouldn't Milan have to create his own accounts? No spoon-feeding! - MiniMage
Milian will need to come up with his name, I doubt Milianizer is going to work.... - Tyler (Chacha) from IM
steve: the first thing Milan did was tweet: http://scobleizer.com/2007... - Robert Scoble
LOL at MiniMage. Kids take to iPhones quick. My daughter is 5 and emailing her mom stuff from within apps and finding new features in apps ... - Patrick Jordan
Well it's inevitable: all my kids could work the TV/DVD and even *program* them way before my mum could. And Chacha: I had heard that Robert blogged. I just wish he would try Twitter or one of the other social thingies that TechCrunch are always going on about...who knows what he could achieve then....? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
I like you ... your really sarcastic...*follow* - Tyler (Chacha)
Wow! That's great. I love the way these new technologies are allowing us to record and remember such special moments in so many different ways - Steven (optionshiftk)
steve: yeah, milan's first cry still gets to me. It's wacky how his first moments in life are captured for Google. :-) - Robert Scoble
"for" Google, or "in"? Cause if it is for Google, my next question is whether or not Milan is an offering to Almighty Google? ;) - James D Kirk
LOL hopefully he'll never be lost, but how cute if he is! - Kat
I keep saying people underestimate kids. My cousin was a video games whiz at 3. No one sat there and repeatedly told her she would have to wait until she was older to save the princess, so she did it multiple times. - MiniMage
James: for, in, is there any real difference? :-) - Robert Scoble
Ha. But shouldn't that be "If found ..." - Nick in Manila
Just read this - and promptly spit my coffee all over my desk. Robert you have a great looking kid! - Renee Hendricks
lol :) maybe you should build a website for lost children and give them subdomains - İ. Emre Kutlu
Aww, that's just too cute! Lost a kid? First place to check would be your blog's comments.. - deepikaur
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Robert Scoble
Anyway, my reality is calling. Milan is messing up the place so gotta run. See ya later.
Just wait, give him another year and he will be asking "why" every 5 seconds and dismantling everything in your house! ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson
I think he has two + years before he's asking why every 5 seconds. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Iduno, my son is 3 1/2 and he has been chattering and asking why for at least a year now. - Jeff P. Henderson
OK...so year and a half and we'll split the difference. :) Sounds like your son is definitely ahead of the curve though. Good on him. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Brian Solis
List of 2009 conferences related to social media and new marketing compiled by @jdlasica - http://www.socialmedia.biz/2008...
Brian Solis
The three sides of conversation = What you say, what someone hears & the unfiltered truth that remains in the middle of the exchange.
The fourth side: what we decide is the truth on FriendFeed. :-) - Robert Scoble
Ahhh....perhaps it's now dubbed as "Conversation.FF" - Brian Solis
Then you have conversations overheard and supplemented with other voices. - Phil Boiarski
Robert Scoble
Oh, how did Loic launch Seesmic? He came over. We took him out to dinner. Shared a bottle of my best wine. Then he showed me Seesmic.
Proves he's wrong about Silicon Valley when he says people don't take him up when he asks to have meals. - Robert Scoble
awesome strategy...love it, especially the part about dinner and sharing best bottle of wine...then comes the demo - Susan Beebe
Le reste est l'histoire - paul mooney
I'm not sure about anyones point here, really. - Roberto Bonini
You uber bloggers do like to bitch, don't you? - David Semeria
Next time I'm there I should take you guys out to dinner and show you our simplyfeed then. ;) - Moushumi Kabir
Moushumi: don't forget the wine! :-) When are you going to be in SF? - Robert Scoble
hymanroth: we learned in high school that no one pays attention to the geek in the science room but that everyone pays attention to the fight in the quad. - Robert Scoble
I wish FF would let me 'like' comments in a thread because I really like Robert's geek vs. fight comment. Still trying to understand why LeWeb always has controversy around it...but then any buzz is better than none, right? - Karoli
Just the sort of civilized values and appreciation of human communication celebrated by the Slow Food movement http://tinyurl.com/5n84bh . I think Loic was articulating this type of view. I read in Lemur's blog that Arrington took his Latop to a Michelin 3 star restaurant! No-one can condone this. Can they? - Mac Taylor
Mac: Loic later admitted that Mike didn't do that. - Robert Scoble
hymanroth: the fight might be manufactured, but it isn't all that fake. Just because they planted the fireworks, lit the fuse, doesn't mean that there aren't real fireworks going off now. - Robert Scoble
Robert, he did not do that but went to the bathroom check Techmeme, and was begging for the Chef to leave him in peace at the end of the dinner :) - Loic Le Meur
Loic: like I said, maybe you invited the wrong guy to dinner! (Hi Mike!) I appreciate five-course French meals and don't feel the pressure to get on my blog. But, you might catch me in the bathroom on FriendFeed. Luckily, in Europe, I don't have cell phone access so don't feel that kind of pressure there. - Robert Scoble
I wonder if everybody is having a boring weekend and plays kindergarten because of it. - Christian Scholz
but having that said I think the europeans could get things done a bit more.. like in Germany we seem just to copy everything and complain that specs are not written in german, too ... - Christian Scholz
Christian - my feeling is that that's exactly what's going on today (techmeme's sidebar is longer than the main part of the page today) - but then, we used to have a lot more manufactured fights like this - sadly, the fight takes away from the substance of the discussion, which is basically about work/life balance - and which is an important topic - Frederic
Frederic, right, work/life balance is one and it's of course also a cultural thing. It might also be about different thinking about risks you take when it comes to startups. And the latter is also influenced of your environment.. Like in germany we do not really have an atmosphere which allows for too much risk.. and you'd better not fail. - Christian Scholz
Robert, sure, wine too! I'll be there in February. Or, you are welcome in Atlanta and we will extend Southern hospitality, calling the trip, "Silicon Valley goes Southern." :-) - Moushumi Kabir
Christian - Good point - entrepreneurial risk taking isn't exactly encouraged in most parts of Europe - and that is definitely holding potential startups back (more so than taking time out for lunch...). Of course, there is also a lot of bureaucratic hassle if you want to start a company in Germany... - Frederic
right, bureacracy adds to that (and we like to add another two layers in order to remove one because we are actually very aware of that). That being said and having thought about it, I am not sure if those american startups are actually better. Most of them seem not to be very interesting to me but probably there are simply more of them so the chance that some winner arises from that mass is higher. - Christian Scholz
I would have dinner with Loic. And I have had briefings over meals from companies - BackType being a good example. - Louis Gray
Anyone is always welcome to come visit out here (Salt Lake City) as well - we have at least 6-12" of snow on the ground now as of today, so we could go skiing! (although I've only been once) Want to review tech companies? We have Omniture, Mozy, Doba, SocialToo, i.TV, We're Related (facebook app), Ancestry.com, BackCountry.com, UnitedOnline (the makers of Classmates.com, NetZero, and Freeservers.com), OrangeSoda, Overstock.com, and more - all w/i 45 minutes drive! - Jesse Stay
Oh, and despite what Scoble says, I'll make sure you can eat at a Mexican restaurant that makes good Margaritas. ;-) - Jesse Stay
I almost forgot Novell - Jesse Stay
Novell ...hahaha! OMG are they still breathing? Suse linux?? My hubby was a top shelf Novell CNE, MCNE, ECNE... then came Windows Server! augh! Novell's "windows client" was the death of novell. 2,3,4 all worked great in DOS, then the windows stuff crawled and cost MY company money...sucked big time... OK where's that NT 3.51 book?? Windows for workgroups anyone? - Susan Beebe
So ... they key is the wine. right? :D - funkyboy from Posty
Silicon Valley is much more about relationships than Arington has made it out to be...and not necessarily for the better all the time; I remember reading a good post somewhere about the role of VC's essentially being reduced to funding buddies and finding exits for buddies to former vc's / buddies :) - Michael Broukhim
Michael: I agree. Arrington, though, does always look for the next thing and I could totally see him wanting to escape from a five-hour dinner to make sure he's not missing anything important. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Yes, he does seem *much* more meritocratically oriented than many others... though I think in some of his US / EU observations, he projects unto other U.S. techies his own ethos - Michael Broukhim
Broukhim: oh, yes, he does do that. Big time. But then, so do I in a way. We all try to shape the world to be how we'd like it to be. - Robert Scoble
Very true - Michael Broukhim
Robert Scoble
It's too bad that the controversy around LeWeb is hiding the content. @loiclemeur had one of the G8 members on stage. Wow.
And I was blown away by @dweinberger talk on emergent leadership - Phil Wolff
I am also surprised that not so many people are watching the videos available online for free - Haim Schlesinger
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