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A Google executive told me that something cooler than Wave is yet to come this year. OK now I am interested! But I am tortured. What is it?
Malte Steckmeister, Kevin Brew, Peter and 140 other people liked this
That does peak my curiosity!
- Kevin Whalen
You are a cruel, cruel man. Now we're all tortured
- Keith Barrett
There going to buy friendfeed.
- Shaun Hess
Yea. I feel like your friendfeed pic, not being able to figure what it is.
- Lakshman Prasad
Must be pretty big.. very curious!!
- Allan Jones
Geocities 2.0!
- pourmecoffee
Maybe Google Chrome OS earlier than expected?
- Manuel Mas
I wonder what that could be.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
So they're already giving up on wave?
- Colin
What is your Friendfeed picture anyway? I'm slightly confused.
- Hunt
Whatever it is, Apple/AT&T will not allow it on the iPhone :o
- Kevin Whalen
How can they be advertising something cooler than Wave when Wave isn't even out yet?
- Lise
Colin: no. Wave is very important to Google.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wave 2.0?
- TheHenry
I think I know, but I'm not allowed to say because it would violate an NDA.
- Bryan Bartow
It's Google Surfboard - a wave add-on
- Keith Barrett
Bryan: in that case do you agree?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wave is going to be awesome. Waiting on my sandbox access.. it will redefine communications on the net!
- Tim Hoeck
Or how about Google Wave: Pacific.
- TheHenry
Depends on their implementation of the idea. Personally, I'm more excited about Wave based on what I know about the two, which I admit is very little.
- Bryan Bartow
I have a Wave sandbox, and it IS awesome! The announcement has to be related to the new OS or android
- Keith Barrett
Keith, if it's what I'm talking about then it is neither.
- Bryan Bartow
Bryan: hummmmm. Now I'm more tortured
- Keith Barrett
In the interest of full disclosure, my information is two levels removed from the source. Google -> vendor -> me. Still, I trust the source and when the idea was told to me it sounded very plausible.
- Bryan Bartow
I hope it's Google Base integration with Open Social widgets!
- Mitch
A bit bigger than that, Mitch ;)
- Bryan Bartow
@manuel I just came back from Win7 ship party and i am astonished that how many man years does it take make a OS.
- Ruchit Garg
My team was actually asked to work on the project, but we unfortunately had to decline. It definitely would have been a cool project.
- Bryan Bartow
Ruchit: I understand, just speculating. Yet considering it sounds like a Linux distro running Chrome, it does not sound all that impossible.
- Manuel Mas
Maybe its the ability to call up contacts list when composing a message. That would be groundbreaking. :/
- jcunwired
Google Heath integration with Orkut?
- Mitch
@Bryan: Is it a Netbook with Chrome OS with all the Google Apps built in. Something like a GPad?
- Abhishek Tiwari
Chrome OS wouldn't be a real surprise. Even a Linux distro by Google wouldn't be a shock. Wonder what it could be... hmm...
- ChristianWV
killer than wave??? how many of you think google wave is a path breaking one?????
- hariharan kumar
Should be considerably easy for Google to accomplish since Wave is vaporware to the overwhelming majority of web users - even savvy ones who know about it.
- Chris Duffy
cool is always relative. I have learned not to get too excited. It may be cool for you but not me.
- Phillip Miller
I think you mean subjective
- Mitch
hate you. :)
- metalerik
It's going to be an anti-aging skin cream. It will be called the G-formula.
- Tomy Thomson
When I first heard about Wave, I thought big deal, chat and email. But after watching the entire presentation, I see it could replace Email, IM, IRC, Forums, Blogs and their commenting systems, etc.. and put it all in your 'INBOX'
- Tim Hoeck
from Android
What about the Google Docs interface overhaul? http://googledocs.blogspot.com/2009... With the possibilities of GDrive ...
- Kevin Mohr
Wave seems like another Orkut to me, so it wouldn't surprise me if there is something better coming.
- Cristo
Google AdSense on the new Coca-Cola Freestye soda dispensers?
- RAD Moose
@Abhishek Nope. Not hardware related if it's what I'm thinking.
- Bryan Bartow
I'd be willing to bet it is mobile-related.
- LogEx
Google shoul create a highly robust social media platform that integrates Google's products: profiles, mail, calendars, chat, voice, picassa, blogger, gReader, search, latitude, maps - that is what I would build :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
add Wave too, of course
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I'm just going to call it gootopia (or should it be googtopia. hmm)
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
Susan, I think that is happening already, bit by bit. Every month there are new capabilities and integration points. I'm optimistic on that front.
- LogEx
Interactive TV? :P
- imabonehead
I was dreaming about getting access to wave now something new and better?!!!
- Mostafa Lameei
Mostafa: There's always something new and better coming from every front.
- Manuel Mas
Logical - Google product integration has way more potential than they have currently in production now. I see layers of useful and revenue generating features and improvents. The potential roadmap I see for this is highly disruptive and needed.
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
If I had to guess, I would say 1) some type of Youtube Appliance (=Apple TV done right) or 2) Google News 3.0 (shifting from news to a discovery engine). The TV thing is probably bigger and somewhere they have a big competitive advantage with Youtube.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
USB plug in directly to right ear download contents of mental zipper - ready to upload to friends
- PookyMedia
Another big opportunity besides realtime communication is media streaming so my guess is a Silverlight-like (RIA) platform with special focus on adjustments dependent on the device used for consuming and open enough that augmented reality innovations will play nice with current "standard" codecs
- Alberto Saavedra
Google TV!!! Yes!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Google Web Drive, under the "Cosmo" codename. Read Blogoscoped or GOS. I think Ionut told me he expects Cosmo to be launch before Sept.
- Jérôme Flipo
from iPhone
Google Web Drive would be cooler, in a way..ve.
- Nick Humphries
Antimatter Wave, aka Wavenot™
- ianf ⌘
Google buying FF?!! but something big too big have will for sure have a relation with Google voice.
- abdellah
A time machine?
- Allen Eskelin
"Google buying FF" - Noooooo! It will just get killed like some of the other high profile acquisitions they have made.
- Travis Koger
@Allen I love the concept, @Travis google killed the app that were at their first stage of development, FF is 85% finished (mean completed) the rest 5% will be user innovation, so even if Google buy FF they will not change a line in the code or the architecture.now who is the firt to like this post?!! what did Greader this week? who from Greader left the office to go to FF? too many question!!
- abdellah
but let be clear, all the above are just speculation.
- abdellah
Nope Abdellah. Cosmo have been mentionned numerous times in official docs and in the code of some apps.
- Jérôme Flipo
from iPhone
@Jerome havn't understand what do you mean by Cosmo
- abdellah
I think it's called "hype."
- Carlos Eberhardt
It has to be quantum computing. all computation done outside of time and space.
- Walter Logeman
I'm thinking Google Chrome with Native Client for super fast rendering of web applications (including Wave).
- George Moga
Introducing Google Goo: Making the web squishy, coming late 2009.
- DGentry
Won't be hard to be cooler than Wave. Yes, I'm not a big Wave fan: way too noisy, messy, unusable... Maybe I'll change my mind in the future but for now, I still don't get what we'll do with this stuff and I don't buy the idea.
- Pascal Thivent
Okay, here are my predictions. First, let me say that being cooler than Wave will be quite hard because that's pretty awesome (do you have sandbox access Pascal? Because I'm sure that will change your mind). (1) Google TV - Never mentioned anywhere officially and would definitely be cooler than most others, however VEVO is somewhat similar. (2) GDrive/Cosmo/whatever they call it - would...
more...
- Californian
Google World Domination?
- Amit Morson
This churn in applications wears me out! Where do you get the energy?
- ZuDfunck
The amount of web-based applications being delivered from Google is amazing. There is so much potential in Google voice apps, Google Wave, which will put their social apps on steroids and now an OS. If they can leverage their brand and fan base into these other verticals; they will be a force to reckoned with and a huge target for anti-trust regulators...
- Mark Harai
Google Cloud. In your pocket, on your desk, embedded ---anywhere, anytime at anyprice.
- Thom Kennon
Wow Thom - that actually does sound VERY cool...
- Mark Harai
I'm interested too!!
- Alex Hammer
Probably something to do with a more direct Windows competition. If you look at Google's recent products, many of them are meant to replace Microsoft products.
- William Mougayar
from iPhone
A multi-platform OS is the only thing in my mind that could top Wave. Can't wait to find out for sure though what this will be!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I bet it's the Gdrive after I've just paid for an extra 10GB storage on Google. Would be cool to be able to access all my files from any google app, so I could add a picture from picassa webalbum or embed a video of mine/ favourited without having to go to the other site and copy a URL. This would set it up nicely for google OS
- Steven Horner
from iPhone
It's a kind of gyro balanced 2-wheel personal transportation device, IT will change everything. The way we live, the way cities are built.
- Ray Cromwell
Crazy. I wonder if it will read my mind and stream content related to my thoughts in real-time.
- Dane
What!? Cooler than Wave. I'll give my left nut to find out what & to be a tester.
- Brian Felix
from iPhone
Whatever it is, I'm sure IT WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE INTERNETS!
- Andy Bakun
It is a Google-branded reality distortion field developed in collaboration with Apple. The reality distortion field prototype is so strong that Eric Schmidt was forced to resign from the Apple board of directors, lest his field encounter that of Steve Jobs reulting in mutual annihilation in a devastating burst of pure energy.
- thegeniusfiles
That's a really interesting idea, Gabe. It seems to go a bit against the drive that Google Apps will reduce the need for IT departments though, so I doubt it.
- Californian
Google will be hiring people to come to your house and physically direct your searches.
- Chris Baskind
This photo search thing?
- Michael Q Todd
Google has created an OFF button for the internet and will demonstrate their magic later this year. After that, Google will solidify the world under one government known as the Google Wave Party. Then, SkyNet will be born and we will all be shocked and amazed when Google Androids storm through our neighborhoods, killing us all.
- Bradley Farless
More exciting than Wave. Has got to be Tsunami
- Sidharth Dassani
@kwerb sorry I am in Texas. Thanks for inviting me, though.
Dallas, come thru Dallas...let me know!
- Zaneology
Move Dallas to San Antonio and we can visit next week.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Scoble, you come to Austin much, other than the obvious (SXSW)?
- Bryan Bartow
Bryan does Austin exist other than for SXSW? Just kidding. I get there once in a while.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'll have to buy you lunch next time you're in town and have some time.
- Bryan Bartow
How much faster is the new iPhone 3GS? It keeps up with friendfeed's realtime feed and the old one didn't. My son noted that 3G web pages are a lot faster too.
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On the non-iPhone site?
- Obayoo
Yes
- Robert Scoble
Can you make a video because not all of our feeds are as fast as yours.
- Jeremy Franklin
I just wish there was more to it feature wise, or else it would be a no-brainer upgrade for me.
- Obayoo
Just about everything - from reboots to app launches to page loads etc, is much, much faster :)
- Patrick Jordan
When you say it can keep up with the realtime updates. Are you testing this in Safari or through some sort of Friendfeed client?
- Alex Knight
I agree with Obayoo
- Johnny
Alex: Safari. I don't like any of the clients.
- Robert Scoble
I am on the standard site with my 3GS and it is rocking!!!
- Drew Lucas
I am loving my new 32gb black 3GS ... the S really does mean Speed!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Yes, it does. Really like the 3g s.
- Jeremy Franklin
Robert - Wifi or 3G when you were testing?
- Alex Knight
BuddyFeed is much better on the 3G S than the 3G
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm a bit surprised at how much faster it is. It chews through every app I've got.
- Bryan Bartow
How about battery life?
- Johnny
I just downloaded a new app and it was installed in only a few seconds ... wow
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Alex: both. Battery life seems just slightly better but I need more days to know for sure.
- Robert Scoble
The battery life on mine seems the same --
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm getting slightly better battery life on my 3G with just the 3.0 update. I was hoping the 3GS would have substantial battery improvements though.
- Alex Knight
Battery life test posted in FF room earlier - http://ff.im/4ehnW
- Mike Bracco
Thanks Mike
- Johnny
Eh, maybe I will shell out the $$$ to upgrade. I thought my 3g would be good enough. :( Not very interested in the video. Just battery life and speed
- Johnny
One of the many impressive ways it's shown off its speediness to me was on app updates. I had 12 waiting for me when I synced the 3GS first time to my Mac. I never, ever let it try to 'Update All' on the 3G because it usually took a long time just doing one at a time. Yesterday I gave it a go with the 12 updates - just over 1 minute - boom - done.
- Patrick Jordan
How are you accessing FF on the iPhone (I have a 3G)? What's your recommendation?
- Scotty Perkins
Scotty, BuddyFeed is the best app for the iPhone so far. AlertThingy is coming along nicely.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Scotty: I am sitting on my couch talking with you on my iPhone just using the web browser (Safari) set to the standard FriendFeed site. I refresh often. :-)
- Robert Scoble
LPH: I have BuddyFeed and love but today I was typing a long comment and got a call in the middle of it and then when call was done my message I was typing was completely gone...I don't understand how the app would not save the message in that case...absurd!
- Mike Bracco
Do any of the iPhone apps do real-time updates yet?
- Jesse Stay
Mike, I've had similar things happen. I've lost pictures that way too ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: yeah seems like a huge design flaw, I guess I'm so used to apps on iPhone just working so I was really surprised by behavior.
- Mike Bracco
Excellent, thanks. Will try those. I'm still getting my feed under me with FF.
- Scotty Perkins
Jesse - don't think so, if you mean any of the native FF apps and FF real time updates that is.
- Patrick Jordan
Try Google Earth - which was barely usable on the older models. It screams on the 3Gs - benefits from the CPU, gpu, and ram improvements - it's more responsive than my MacBook pro (though obviously I have a much larger screen on that).
- Robin Barooah
This is great news. I can justify buying one if it's substantially faster than the 3G.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I have a 3Gs since yesterday. I did not have the old 3G but sometimes I grabbed my friends' ones. I can tell you is faster and that the 's' is a good descriptor.
- Eduardo Loyola
makes it much harder to ignore when I have a 2G, will I be liked in past the 4G release I wonder?
- Mark Essel
Did you mean OS 3.0 or OS 2.x on the 3G didn´t keep up with FF realtime feed ?
- Thomas Bøhm
It blows that you have to go to the regular FF site to get the realtime updates. The iPhone site is much better adapted to the size of the screen but you still have to refresh. Do you think this is because of speed concerns?
- Wim Mulder
Wim: yes. Realtime was useless on old iPhone. Even on new one I keep it off most of the time.
- Robert Scoble
Is there a concern that developers might start building apps that won't work/are too slow with the older models?
- Obayoo
Obayoo: that almost is a certainty. Games, my son says, are much better on the new hardware.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Atwood posted a link to a great video from the iPhone Blog that compared side by side the 3g with the 3gs and it was pretty well twice as fast.
- Travis Koger
I turned Wifi off yesterday after the first 2 hours of usage and then proceeded to use 3G the rest of the day for all data and forgot I wasn't on Wifi... Fast is an understatement, however I'd like to see some side-by-side speed tests for 3G vs 3GS. Not convinced just yet that folks need that "S", the more efficient OS could be adding to the speed... With that said, provided I un-brick...
more...
- Walt Ruppar
iPhone provides me tools for work and leisure that have me very excited about modern (social) media.
- Dave
Live blogging from #140tc Alex Payne (head of Twitter's API team) is on stage now. Join here:
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His Twitter address: @al3x
- Robert Scoble
Now showing off original API page. It was one page.
- Robert Scoble
First Twitter app was by Chris Messina.
- Robert Scoble
Growl, in January 2007. Alex said he used Growl got him thinking about how to use Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Showing Twitter in 2007. Looked a bit uglier back then.
- Robert Scoble
Back then Twitter was three full time engineers and one ops guy. I remember those days.
- Robert Scoble
Loving the different screenshots of twitter homepages.. I want that PPT
- Dave Peck
Dave: me too. I'll try to get him to post it.
- Robert Scoble
Are they streaming this anywhere? I'm guessing no...
- Brett Kelly
Now showing off Twitterific. October 2007.
- Robert Scoble
"It really wasn't before Twitterific was on thousands of desktops that we ever talked to a developer," Alex said.
- Robert Scoble
Tweetie! Tweetie! Tweetie!
- Michael Fortson
I dont think its being streamed. They do have video cameras here. So it must be available later I would think
- Dave Peck
Dave: I thought about doing the video, but the bandwidth sucks. Like usual.
- Robert Scoble
"We're over 45 employees, close to 70 with contractors."
- Robert Scoble
They just said there are over 10,000 twitter API apps.
- Andru Edwards
Now he's showing off Tweetie. "I'm proud to say that the developer is 'more than living off the sales of Tweetie.'"
- Robert Scoble
TweetDeck, he says is an essential tool for many people.
- Robert Scoble
Love the pic Robert! Great composition
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
No live feed, but we are recording the entire 140 conference, which will be available after. Nice and professional-looking.
- Andru Edwards
I pretty much live on TweetDeck.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
CoTweet, he says, is being used by Twitter to provide support (I just met the CEO, will get him to give you a demo).
- Robert Scoble
CoTweet is a tool that lets teams manage multiple Twitter accounts.
- Robert Scoble
Now switching to show off news organizations that are using Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
We're covering the event in a Whrrl story too, if you want to see a bunch of images and text updates: http://whrrl.com/e/fjL96
- Andru Edwards
"We have so much data that providing a nuanced view of it is not something we can do in house," Payne said.
- Robert Scoble
Now showing off StockTwits to punctuate that point.
- Robert Scoble
And TipToy, which lets you give and get money on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I'm a TipJoy fan.
- Andru Edwards
And of course, TwitPic
- Andru Edwards
I'm a TweetDeck fan :)
- Iain Dodsworth
Now moving on to the future.
- Andru Edwards
Interesting new features, he says, are like what Disqus are using, to do an automatic login via OAuth to comment on a blog with single sign on. "That's just the beginning." Twitter wants to be the leader in portable identity.
- Robert Scoble
Streaming API. It doesn't make sense for third parties to poll Twitter. Old way "do you have new data?" New way: get access to the firehose stream.
- Robert Scoble
Heh, Hello Iain, nice to see you around here :)
- Simon Wicks
Iain: I'll be in London in early July. Want to meet up there?
- Robert Scoble
Streaming API that pushes rather than making tools poll constantly is coming.
- Andru Edwards
OAuth. Expect more. "OAuth is our investment in ending what experts are calling the password antipattern."
- Robert Scoble
very good to be here - been neglecting FF, but that will change shortly
- Iain Dodsworth
Oh yeah? Is that a hint at something new?
- Simon Wicks
Robert - definitely on for early July - just let me know, I have SOOO much to discuss :) we may have been quiet over here at TweetDeck...
- Iain Dodsworth
Iain, cool. Can't wait to see what you do with TweetDeck.
- Robert Scoble
Better support is where Twitter is focusing most of its efforts.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - email or DM best way to stay in touch?
- Iain Dodsworth
Friendfeed DM. Email scobleizer@gmail.com is probably best, though, cause I'd like to get others involved as well
- Robert Scoble
Cool - I'll leave you to it - enjoying the live blogging
- Iain Dodsworth
"Your personal identity leader" lacks a little when compared to "What are you doing?"
- Todd Hoff
Slide now? "More consistent." He says that there's inconcistencies between data sets they are providing to various developers that they are going to be fixing.
- Robert Scoble
Next slide? "More transparent." "If we have data, if we have statistics, if we have numbers interesting to the community we will be there."
- Robert Scoble
heading to the Qik office -- thanks for the updates, Robert!
- Michael Fortson
He is pitching a developer's bill of rights. Interesting.
- Robert Scoble
They want to be very clear in future with a "bill of rights" that will tell developers what to expect in future from Twitter's API.
- Robert Scoble
Summary of Future from @al3x: streaming api, OAuth, better support, more consistent, more transparent
- warren sukernek
Warren: thanks, couldn't have said it better myself!
- Robert Scoble
Any questions I should ask?
- Robert Scoble
I like the idea of a developers bill of rights
- Dave Peck
Robert is first to ask Alex a question..of course!
- Dave Peck
Dave: of course!
- Robert Scoble
API default going to be bumped from 100!
- Dave Peck
Q&A: Will there be changes to the number of times a developer can hit the API? Answer: Limit is currently 100 per hour, and that will be bumped up.
- Andru Edwards
I asked him the Jesse Stay question: will they give developers more access to the API (more requests per IP address). He said "yes."
- Robert Scoble
Will devs be able to purchase premium levels of API usage to pass onto users of their apps?
- Iain Dodsworth
Iain: just had Broback ask that.
- Robert Scoble
interesting question Iain - what would you pay?
- michael sean wright
Will the stream API be part of the existing REST API or a separate socket connection-type implementation?
- Bryan Bartow
He answered: Thus far we are still a small company with limited resources so we ha've decided to focus on consumer focused monetization strategies.
- Robert Scoble
nicefishfilms - i'd pay a lot :) and could offer many new services which are currently unfeasible
- Iain Dodsworth
Iain: What would be the first feature/added service you would add if you had unlimited API calls?
- Mike Bracco
Iain- your growth has proven you're on the right 'track' i would support a super version from you.
- michael sean wright
Sounds like this #140tc conference will be big on Twitter relevant announcements, Scoble is FriendFeed-casting it here ->
- Alex Schleber
Mike: would love to tell you but we're unfortunately now in the position where we have to protect our roadmap - which is a shame
- Iain Dodsworth
nicefishfilms: thanks for the support :)
- Iain Dodsworth
Robert: can you ask about twitter meme tracker ? Do they have an opinion on discovery vs. search ?
- twitscoop
Iain: Gotcha :) Figured you might answer with that but I totally understand. Love your product (and the icon change a little while back :).
- Mike Bracco
Do you think Alex can speak to other things regarding twitter other then development? Like how companies can get their brand name on Twitter vs squatters, etc..
- Dave Peck
Iain: I'm in marketing/branding and wonder how you guys think about your brand - In that you now offer Facebook support and I'm sure a bunch of other things down the line. Are you concerned that TweetDeck might be too limiting or do you believe that it's similar to the iTunes brand where everyone knows that iTunes is more than just music.
- Mike Bracco
Dave: he said that he's there to talk about the API parts of Twitter and will defer other questions to other people.
- Robert Scoble
twitscoop: I'll try, but I've already asked too many questions.
- Robert Scoble
As long as the questions are meaningful, I don't think they won't allow you to ask ;) Thanks for trying!
- twitscoop
Someone asked about what effect the Oprah effect has had on Twitter's team. They said they had to focus more on scaling out social graphs to big users.
- Robert Scoble
People asked about metadata, especially when it comes to location. They said they just hired a person to do exactly that. Sounds like they are worried about Twinkle.
- Robert Scoble
Mike: we should move this conversation to another place
- Iain Dodsworth
He also made it clear that they are looking at adding other types of metadata to Twitter as well. Sounds like they are about to get serious about search. That makes a fundamental change in strategy, too.
- Robert Scoble
Dave: Anamitra Banerji's, Twitter's Product Manager, keynote tomorrow morning is going to be all about Twitter from business perspective
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
More about this session is flowing in at http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Robert, bit.ly is now the url short'ner of choice for Twitter, bit.ly is using Calais to extract smart data, thoughts?
- michael sean wright
who do twitter want to buy! any acquisition potential out there and why?
- Nigel Walsh
any plans to connect to other messaging platforms, eg Skype, MSN etc and become THE UC platform
- Nigel Walsh
Iain: Ok, posted on FF http://bit.ly/QgqaI but no need to respond - I'm sure your busy following this stream.
- Mike Bracco
Someone packing dSLR heat. Alex's presentation was great. next time bring a 300mm so you can stay seated LOL
- Jim Goldstein
nicefishfilms: I don't have too many thoughts about the tiny URL folks. I am worried about the amount of power that we are giving them. The web works best when it's decentralized and everytime we choose to centralize again nasty stuff happens (look at Feedburner, for instance, and how it slowed everyone's feeds down for a while).
- Robert Scoble
nicefishfilms: There was an interesting discussion about these services yesterday on this FF thread - http://bit.ly/iEOh2
- Mike Bracco
Robert- agree, am interested in the extraction in a split-second of what the that url points to (the meaning of the article.) Perhaps we'll see better clustering of info based on Calais. Could see a FriendFeed room set up to catch the bit.ly data.
- michael sean wright
@ Mike, thank you.
- michael sean wright
Jim: I'll have a 600mm F4.0 here this afternoon. :-)
- Robert Scoble
nicefilms or Scoble: do you know of any services that give you that "split second" meaning but for twitter trends? I subscribe via RSS to http://www.whatthetrend.com/ because it's the only service I have found that gives you a human definition of the trend and not just tweets that mention the trend.
- Mike Bracco
Ask him when I'll be able to retrieve all of Britney Spears followers without it erroring out :)
- Jesse Stay
@ Mike - don't know if that exists yet... but would point you to http://opencalais.com and look for the semantic proxy. seems to be the closest. What i'm looking for is that real-time 'meaning' extraction organized, curated in a visually compelling way. (we can dream right?)
- michael sean wright
I love seeing Iain here - one of my favorite developers. :-) Thanks for asking the premium API option - we all want it. I don't get why they can't provide it.
- Jesse Stay
I wish I was here earlier - I have so many questions for them. :)
- Jesse Stay
Hey Jesse, with you on that - let me pay for unlimited API access for the user (whilst retaining the inherent filtering the API provides) and we'll deliver some of our "dream" functionality :)
- Iain Dodsworth
Discussing hootsuite w/ @iJustine, @davepeck, and missrogue
- Tony Zanders
Search google for "xefer" and click on "projects" to see when a person tweets everyday. It's a Twitter API and Yahoo! Pipes mashup. The "When people sleep" utility.
- Tony Zanders
http://twitter.mailana.com allows you to diagram who you, or someone else's buddies are, based on your @ replies, etc...
- Tony Zanders
thank god they are committed to ending the password antipattern
- Jon
Facebook’s iPhone App Catches Up To Its Big Brother With Real-Time Updates http://riz.gd/c8recb
Nicholas James, Daniel Rowley, Praveen Vasudev and 2 other people liked this
link broken?
- Christopher Galtenberg
And wow, lower ad bar, full frame, on tech crunch -- anyone else see that? Maybe nothing new, I don't go to the site much.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Link is broken.
- Bryan Bartow
Can't see the article.
- ashish
This happened last week with exactly the same article!
- Martin Bryant
Christopher: I think the full ad bar was placed by the URL shortner...
- Frankie Warren
This link will work http://www.techchuck.com/2009...
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
May be the article never made it to techcrunch or was removed later.
- ashish
Probably because it was a bogus story: "Update: Joe Hewitt, who built the iPhone application, says that nothing has changed on the iPhone app and that it has always had three status updates at the top."
- Christopher Galtenberg
RT @ryanblock: I CANNOT believe that Google is offering free Exchange for iPhone users. Sooo awesome. http://www.google.com/mobile...
Tom Small, Matt Cutts, Karim and 25 other people liked this
Very cool!
- Fee501st
Good sign that they are getting desperate.
- Adrian Bashford
Desperate? Explain.
- Veronica
It's not Exchange until it pushes email.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Wait... I actually went to your link... I totally misunderstood your headline... replace 'Exchange' with 'exchange', sorry...
- Adrian Bashford
Adrian, your argument still doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure how offering a feature that people want is desperate. And who are they desperate in comparison to?
- Veronica
Veronica, I think Adrian interpreted your title as 'Google will give you an Android phone in exchange for your iPhone.'
- Kevin Fox
Ah, he changed his post now, ok! Makes sense now.
- Veronica
Sorry V, reading things too fast... agree this looks really cool! No scoop here, look elsewhere. ;)
- Adrian Bashford
I was thinking the same thing. Trade in my old phone for a G1
- walterh
Now I have to figure out how I can sync my Stuff to Google because I don't use the Google Services at the moment. ;)
- Johannes W.
Mentos? http://www.backtype.com/RicMaye...
- Ric Mayer
Why no email??? And i already have an Exchange account on my iPhone. The iPhone is limited to one exchange account. Grrr.
- Roberto Bonini
Collapse Of Wayne Industries Forces Batman Into Late-Night Infomercials | The Onion - America's Finest News Source - http://www.theonion.com/content...
files/radionews/09-061_Batman_Infomercial_F.mp3
- Bryan Bartow
DfontSplitter Peter Upfold - http://peter.upfold.org.uk/project...
DfontSplitter is a program for Windows and Mac that can convert Mac .dfont files into TTF format.
- Bryan Bartow
Obama Taps 5th RIAA Lawyer to Justice Dept. | Threat Level from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/27bstro...
President Barack Obama is tapping another RIAA attorney into the Justice Department. Monday's naming of Ian Gershengorn, to become the department's deputy assistant attorney of the Civil Division, comes more
- Bryan Bartow
leonho's iphone-libs at master - GitHub - http://github.com/leonho...
Varies useful libs, classes, and methods for iPhone development
- Bryan Bartow
Slashdot | RIAA Backs Down In Texas Case - http://news.slashdot.org/article...
RIAA Backs Down In Texas Case -- article related to The Courts and Your Rights Online.
- Bryan Bartow
Inferno is Live on iTunes | Bryan Bartow - http://www.bryanbartow.com/2009...
Bryan Bartow - My Digital Brain Dump
- Bryan Bartow
Complete How-to: Tethering an iPhone with 3.0 firmware - http://www.crunchgear.com/2009...
This took a little time, but we've figured out how to tether the iPhone using the instructions written by Erica Sadun. It takes ...
- Bryan Bartow
Clara County - x86 Cross-License Dispute - http://www.tgdaily.com/slidesh...
Clara County - x86 Cross-License Dispute
- Bryan Bartow
SuperNews! Twouble with Twitters // Current - http://current.com/items...
Current is a global television network that gives you the opportunity to create and influence what airs on TV
- Bryan Bartow
Google Chrome Unleashes a Speedier Beta - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Although it came out of beta last December, Google's Chrome browser has a new beta version that is faster than its stable version ...
- Bryan Bartow
24 Hour iPhone App Challenge | Bryan Bartow - http://www.bryanbartow.com/2009...
Bryan Bartow - My Digital Brain Dump
- Bryan Bartow
@nigeldessau is real-time interviewing @chrisbrogan on social... on TwitPic - http://twitpic.com/224f7
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Share photos with your friends on twitter with twitpic. No signup required, just login using your twitter account
- Bryan Bartow
RustyTrombone - http://www.rustytromboneapp.com/
RustyTrombone is the premiere trombone experience for iPhone and iPod Touch.
- Bryan Bartow
Motorola CEO: Failure was our fault, not economy - SlashGear - http://www.slashgear.com/motorol...
In a rare and surprising moment of blunt honesty, Motorola joint-CEO Greg Brown has blamed Motorola's own decisions for the company's decline. While Brown
- Bryan Bartow
Who is using the new Safari? Do you like it, dislike or are meh on the matter?
Benno, Tony, Sally Church and 12 other people liked this
The new Apple Safari 4 beta is rocking on my machines so far. Noticeably faster speed. Definitely worth trying.
- Robert Scoble
You should check this out! http://www.macworld.com/article...
- Emrah Özcan
Good overall, but I don't like having to grab only the little handle on a tab to move the tab order. Also, when tearing a window back into another as a tab, the visual effect almost implies that the tab after the insert point is going away.
- LogEx
Was using Chrome. It already was fast. I didn't notice anything faster on Safari 4. Also, Chrome feels less cluttered, and has a smoother experience (the Top Sites screen fades in for example). There are no gratuitous animations. And Safari takes on the look and feel of Vista windows, which is actually a liability, not an asset.
- Odi Kosmatos
The new Safari speed is impressive, but the tab-in-title-bar treatment on PC has to go.
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
Top Sites is sort of meh function-wise, but nice eye candy. Still getting used to the location of the tabs. But the tweaks and optimizations to the underlying code, particularly the Javascript engine, are worth it. And it hasn't crashed out yet, but that's probably because I disabled Flash.
- Victor Ganata
Also not a fan of top sites, cover flow, and page previews in general, just one more set of things to clear out every time I quit.
- LogEx
I like a couple of the new features, but overall it wasn't a good enough experience to take me away from Firefox.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
it's okay. It took some getting used to. Until I get used to it, I'm sticking to 3.2.2. I also heard that it's better to just turn off the "Top Sites" feature ASAP. http://twitter.com/al3x...
- Tony Zanders
I like the top sites feature. On Firefox I use the Google Toolbar top sites feature.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
So far I'm digging the new Safari. Well see how I feel in a week.
- Duke Geren
Its awesome. Super fast on my first-gen Macbook with 2 gigs.
- Aaron deMello
I was sort of meh, too. I documented my opinions and discussed how my MiddleClickClose plugin currently doesn't work with Safari 4, here http://bit.ly/1b6VMM
- Joey Gibson
Even though it is beta I cannot go back to gold versions of FF or Safari 3. The speed of Safari 4 has spoiled me.
- Taavi Uudam
I can't get it to stop opening up new windows instead of tabs. according to the help docs, I have the prefs right, but it still opens up in a new window! (I'm on Windows 7 Beta, not a mac, anybody else having this issue?)
- David Silvernail
meh. I'm too wed to Firefox extensions.
- TranceMist
I like tabs in the titlebar! Miss my refresh button...
- Brandon Ball
I downloaded it yesterday but I'm heavily invested in Firefox. With all of my add-ons, FF3 has become a staple.
- Damond Nollan
Here are some tweakings if you're on OSX: http://pastie.textmate.org/398861
- directeur
I'm meh, I won't install it until it's out of beta since I need test sites on different browsers. I'm thinking majority of ppl will still have Safari 3.2.2
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I'm a big fan of it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I am using the new Safari now on my PC. Love it
- Shevonne
It's faster for sure, the web history a little slow getting images, I've not tried working with wordpress yet or much else really as I'm so use to using FF. More later as I venture deeper....
- Carl Plant
from BuddyFeed
Safari 4 is YAB (Yet another browser). Will it let me work faster online?
- Stephen Pierzchala
Using it on the mac. Love the speed - really obvious. History search with coverflow has already been very helpful - try it if you haven't. Other than that I'm waiting to see if any of the new features are actually helpful.
- Robin Barooah
Liking it, but I'd still like to see the address bar work like Chrome - searches straight away and inline history searching. Having to use that little search box at the bottom of 'Top Sites' and then flip through cover flow annoys me.... Basically I guess I just want Chrome for Mac ;)
- Jalada
I use Safari now and again usually when some setting on firefox i don't know about doesn't allow me to view a site completely
- sofarsoShawn
tried it on my mbp the other day did not notice any speed difference.
- adolfo foronda
I'm really loving Safari 4. But I agree with Jalada that Chrome's inline searching is better and faster. But perhaps Apple has this coming up for the full release of Safari 4.
- Dane Deasy
Tried it, liked it, dumped it. Not enough improvement to warrant changing.
- Michael Krigsman
I like the new beta of safari 4. I can't wait though for a mac version of google chrome. I think googe will have a hard time competing with Safari running against the entrenched Safari en FF on the mac
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
I installed it, restarted my computer, and it crashed every time I tried to load it. NEVER did get it to come up. Had to uninstall :( - iMac 24“
- Scott W.
Seems a good deal faster than chrome and firefox, but like a lot of people I need my firefox extensions
- Chris Brakebill
I like it a lot. Firefox was taking too much memory and processor time. @Brandon Ball. The refresh button is still there. Look on the far right of the address bar next to RSS. I love that the tabs take less space but you have to get used to the new location. Tops sites is better for me now that I pinned a few sites there.
- gfurry
Love it except for the tabs on top- which I disabled using the Terminal command some kind folks have provided here and elsewhere. Really fast, and it hasn't crashed in over 28 hours of use, opening and closing over 20 tabs. RAM and CPU usage are much better now than FF3, and CPU % goes down to barely 3-4% on static pages. Works with the unsupported Click2Flash, DeliciousSafari and Safari AdBlock input managers. Also uses less CPU than FF3.0.6 on Flash. YouTube and everything else works just fine. Keeper!
- Siddharth Deb
Love it. Have no complaints.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Overall seems like a nice improvement. Not sure about the tabs at the top and dragging tabs is weird ( I understand that dragging from the one corner is because otherwise how would you drag the whole page around?). Also the new refresh button feels a little lost out there on its own. @David Silvernail Yes it appears to be a bug which makes it open new windows instead of new tabs.
- Benno
As a secondary browser its interesting, but my browsing life is so bound up in FF extensions using anything else is impossible.
- Quasar
gonna give it a try now. have always skipped downloading it in the apple update. i quite like the full history search (title + text)
- Lawrence Leung
AMD's first six-core chip on track | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
Advanced Micro Devices says 'Istanbul'--its first six-core processor--is on track to launch later this year. Read this blog post by Brooke Crothers on Nanotech - The Circuits Blog.
- Bryan Bartow
Pingle Brings Ping.fm to the iPhone - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Curious Squid has released Pingle, an application for the iPhone which lets you update your status across a selection of social networks at once. Using Ping.fm, Pingle will ...
- Bryan Bartow
Build a BoxeeBox and Wean Yourself From Cable - http://hardware.slashdot.org/article...
Czar, Canada's Web Shop, shawn and 32 other people liked this
Woo! Love Boxeee.. Also love media center. I have media centers on every TV that all pull shows/movies/music off 2 centralized NAS boxes :-)
- andy brudtkuhl
Built one using a mac mini. Works very well.
- RicardoSilva
from twhirl
I use Boxee and love it. At home use it and a few other things to help play most of the video and music I like.
- Altan Khendup
Boxee is great, but I am still waiting for silverlight (and therefore Netflix) on Ubuntu. Netflix is the killer feature, IMO.
- Aaron Crews
I still haven't activated my boxee beta code. Should do that this weekend.
- David Wilson
@RicardoSilva how does it run on a Mini? Thinking about getting a used Mini to run it on
- andy brudtkuhl
Boxee is nice, played with it last weekend. But, I am using Vista Home Premium, with $50 DTV over-the-air PCI card, and really happy with the result. Got myself a real remote also, so I am all set and free from cable, already!
- Adi Rabinovich
@Adi that's the same setup I have on my tv's and projector ... LOVE IT .. havent had cable/sat for 4 years (since XP Media Center was released)
- andy brudtkuhl
Using it on Apple TV and extremely happy with the result
- Arnaud Fischer
@andybrudtkuhl it runs great. And my mac mini is 2 years old or so. Streaming to a 52inch LCD and obviously quality suffers, but quite ok. And I am accessing over WIFI and VPN (due to location limitations...). Only issue is with Netflix that somehow stutters. It probably has to do with silverlight implementation as it runs perfect in browser. Bottom line, even with VGA connection it beats VHS.
- RicardoSilva
I am so ready to say goodbye to comcast!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
As soon as I can get live sports on Boxee then I'm done with cable.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
What about CNN and MSNBC? That's why I have cable.
- Francine Hardaway
Gotta have my college football.. When it happens!
- Matt Martin
from twhirl
@Francine there's a CNN channel on Boxee. No commentary, though.
- Aaron Crews
Sports is really the killer app for cable/sat ATM. I can get pretty much everything else I want to watch with Boxee but no sports means I have to keep my Sat. and if I have my Sat + DVR + Roku then Boxee is less interesting.
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
@Bill - agreed, PLUS Noggin/Nick for the kids.
- Aaron Crews
You need a newer Intel mini for good video play-back. 1.8 G processor for HD
- Robert Hafer
@Aaron - for the kids we use DVDs (ripped) most kids shows are on DVD these days and kids don't seem to need the freshness adults do
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
There are several good add-on tuners that work via USB or PCI. If you can get decent reception, OTA digital is great for local news/sports. If you're like me, you need at least basic cable to watch your local news. EyeTV and a Mac Mini work well for me.
- Robert Hafer
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Mobile Fotos, Tweetie, and LastFm, and i been using the "Thats what she said" app
- Fee501st
OmniFocus, bar none.
- Andru Edwards
Omnifocus, BeeJive, Wikipanion+
- Sparky
My 3 are aSleep (or some similar sound generator), Darkroom Pro (or Night Camera), and I guess Evernote. Alternate #1 would be Shazam (I love this app, but I guess I don't use it all the time), and second alternate is Klick. Too hard to choose just three; there are many more alternates in the wing, not including jailbroken apps!
- Cheryl Jones
Can you use Omnifocus standalone? I need a good task manager but $20 for the iPhone app and $80 for the desktop app is hard for me to swallow.
- Paul Reynolds
Hmm Omnifocus looks cool, Is it worth the price?
- Fee501st
Yes, you can use OmniFocus standalone on the iPhone or the Mac. There is a lot of beauty in using them together though. I know it is $100 - but it has EASILY paid that back. In fact, if it were $1,000, it would have paid for itself by now as well, as hard as that is to believe.
- Andru Edwards
Thanks for the reply Andru! I really liked the natural language entry that iwantsandy.com had and I was looking forward to an iPhone app for it... then Twitter killed it. Remember the Milk isn't as good.
- Paul Reynolds
Yeah, OmniFocus is the best I have found, and the Omni Group is a fantastic dev house that takes feedback constantly and works to continue adding in new features. It is a delight :)
- Andru Edwards
Andru: Cool, thanks!
- Fee501st
If I can make a separate list of jailbroken apps, I would choose: QuickGold, SBSettings, and Boxee remote. Boxee remote is my new favorite app; it works really well with Boxee on my Apple TV. I wish I could use it for the stock Apple TV functionality; I don't understand why Apple or anyone else hasn't released an ATV remote for the iPhone/iPod touch, actually. Winterboard would be my alternate, since I like changing my themes, and I like having weather information on my lockscreen.
- Cheryl Jones
I have the touch and my #3apps are TwitterFon, Mint, & Bejeweled 2 (great for the long train rides while listening to audiobooks)
- Bill Maslyn
Remember the Milk is actually another one of my favorites. OpenTable, Shazam, Chess with Friends, CraigSearch are other favorites of mine.
- Veronica
Tweetie, Google App, Pandora/Last.fm(I count those as 1)
- Mike Lewis
Things, iProrecorder, Evernote - and good old Google Reader :)
- Patrick Jordan
Byline, Evernote, and Stanza
- Roger Benningfield
1. google maps, 2. phone, 3. clock... then camera, settings, app store app, calendar, sms
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
1. Tweetie 2. NightCamera 3. WeatherEye
- Chris Luckhardt
The ipod itself.... Imob, for a laugh and nothing else. Ask me again but this time use the N95 as a device ;-)
- Richard A.
Twitterfon, RTM, SugarSync (Evernote). Sorry there are 4 :)
- Michael Sheehan
Twinkle, Mail, Bloomberg
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Amazon, Gas Cubby, Google (as well as Evernote and Mint)
- Rob Haas
I still can't bring myself to use mint.com. I love the idea and think it's an excellent service but until OAuth is supported, i won't be using it. I refuse to give mint.com the passwords to my financial data. Good call on the other two. Love both!
- ·[▪_▪]·
i.TV, SportsTap and Twitterrific #3apps
- Sylvain Nadeau
Email (I know, boring!), Maps, Twitterific
- Susan Beebe
It's funny, I'm not that much of a moviegoer, but I love Movies by Flixster. It really shows off many of the iPhone's strengths (and none of its weaknesses). I also use ShopShop a lot. Besides that, I made a bookmark icon of http://twitter.com/breakin... and it's a convenient way to keep up with the latest headlines.
- Gordon Vaughan
OmniFocus, Evernote, and Yahtzee
- Mistletoe Glen
iBluesky (mindmaping), toodledo (to do list), and facebook
- Christian Burns
Facebook, Twittelator and WeatherBug
- Michael Lehman
Facebook, Shopper, What's On
- Jen Kuiper
Brightkite, Stanza, Fring
- Brome
Definitely Evernote, Twitterfon and Shazam ... and Safari of course :)
- Johannes W.
Tweetie, Google App, Evernote
- Sebastian
Brightkite, Twitterfon and Facebook. Feel free to stalk me on Brightkite :)
- Baard @ Pixum
I didn't know so many people were using Evernote! Interesting. What do you mainly use it for?
- Veronica
Tweetie, Facebook, Evernote, and Mint. I use Evernote for photo and voice notes - love the text search in pdf files and images!!
- No FB
@Veronica, I use it for voice and photo notes on my iphone, but mostly i like the screen capture to share screengrabs and webclippings.
- Fee501st
Qik , Evernote Twitterfon
- johnpiercy
Google Mobile Sync is powered by Exchange Server. That means Gmail push email is coming.
Nicholas James, Bill Romanos, Peter Ghosh and 14 other people liked this
I read Exchange ActiveSync (the licensed? protocol)... not Exchange Server (the server). You have a source saying otherwise?
- Wade Dorrell
You know better than me, but couldn't that be used to support push email?
- Steve Rubel
from IM
As I understand it push is part of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol. So yes, perhaps. But I read what you say as "Google is running Exchange Server." I suspect it's just the protocol being licensed, not the software.
- Wade Dorrell
OK that's fair but Activesync as I understand it can be used to support push email
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Yep, now you're saying the same thing I am.
- Wade Dorrell
Also, straight from the horse's mouth: "Have changes pushed directly to your phone" and "Google Sync uses the Microsoft© Exchange ActiveSync© protocol." http://www.google.com/mobile...
- Wade Dorrell
Does anyone know if I add Google to sync my calendar but not my contacts if it will nuke my corporate mail, which is also Exchange?
- Steve Rubel
Pretty sure you can only have ONE Exchange account on the iPhone - so it won't let you add Google if you want to keep your corporate one ...
- Patrick Jordan
That stinks. They (Apple) needs to fix that now I bet.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Half-arsed workarounds dept - you could see if your corp. mail supports IMAP - and then do it as an IMAP account, while doing all your Google stuff via Activesync ...
- Patrick Jordan
No go. I just tried to add it and it said you got Exchange. So I will continue using GCal -> Busysync -> MobileMe. Not perfect but it works.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
I'm no expert, but I know that MobileMe and Exchange account keep open connections to the server, which lead to more draw on the battery. I would imagine keeping two or more open connections open would make the problem worse.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Only if you leave Push on.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
I think this is the same reason Apple has not released background notification API yet. IM apps alone would kill the battery
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Steve, Isn't that what you're after though? Multiple push accounts?
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Yes. Bidrectional GCal sync, the rest w/Exchange. My current set up works.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
One other fallout from today: it is a lot less likely I will go to SXSW.
Dimitar Vesselinov, Hutch Carpenter, MiaD and 17 other people liked this
Do you think attendances at trade shows / events will drop in 2009 because of the economy AND the ability to grab live blogging?
- Jim Connolly
Bummer. Hope you can squeek by and make it anyhow.
- David Herrold
Oh, Robert. :(
- Mona Nomura
Uhoh...
- Tabz
Oh no! You'll miss the DandyID / Brightkite party on the 16th!
- sara olive
What? Bummer...I was looking forward to meeting you there.
- Mark Krynsky
Eldon: because if it isn't bringing in revenues or increasing audience I won't be doing it.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: yes. Next year is going to be tough for events.
- Robert Scoble
Being a possible vendor at events, the one thing I do know, is the best possible future customers will be at these events...if they're spending money to be at a show, they must be investing in their business. But not even sure I can go this year. I even know of one conference that was moved from April to September in hopes people will more likely attend at that time.
- Scott Sorheim
Scoble - i just emailed you about a celebrity charity event for SXSW that we want you a part of. it will increase audience. lemme know when you get the email. we had a few recording artists, an actress and "other leading blogger" confirmed...more to come as just only started getting the word out this morning.
- Christine Lu
Robert: I blogged about the impact on trade shows here - http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009...
- Jim Connolly
I just signed-on for SXSW today
- paul mooney
Robert: Maybe you can take a cue from @jowyang and start hosting networking tweetups in your area to help eager professionals find good jobs? Call it WhoAreYouCamp! You are in a unique position to promote a lot of events locally that will help your local community and inspire your readers globally.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
would Fast Company let another company sponsor your trip to SXSW? is it a cost issue or a focus issue?
- Christine Lu
what happened 'today' specifically?
- Mrinal Desai
Christine: it is both.
- Robert Scoble
Mrinal: what happened today was a rethink of what we will be doing at Fast Company.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, glad they kept you, shows you have proven value to their strategy.
- susan mernit
Yeah: SXSW is hard for me to justify because the attendees are very heavily people I hang out with anyway and it is very heavy with bloggers and influentials. I love it because it is a big party but I can't justify doing that this year. I totally agree in focusing on smaller events and on events that will help people get jobs.
- Robert Scoble
That's right! I'm not going either. Woohoo!
- Veronica
You should totally go to PAX 2009, Robert.
- Alex Scoble
why don't you do your own conference - you probably got enough branding for scoblecon! make them come to you and charge em back for all the years.
- mal
I'll send you some BBQ if you cant make it.
- Jim Turner
Robert, do you think that even if there will be less attendance at SXSW it will also mean that there will be less interest about this event? May be it would be right choice to go there as those who cannot come would appreciate your coverage? This way you will get more visitors to Fast Company.
- Taavi Uudam
Taavi: SXSW is a conference for bloggers and web pros. I bet you will hear more about it than nearly any conference in the world. Veronica: we should do something fun together.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe we'll have an anti-SXSW Tweetup :)
- Veronica
well for me it is the people i like to hang out with but dont see that often ;)
- Nicole Simon
This is my first year going (yes, I'm late to the party) and like Nicole I was looking forward to meeting many people I've befriended online. It's a shame to hear Robert, Veronica, and many others won't be going this year. Moreso with an anti sentiment thrown in. For FF'ers that are going keep up in the SXSW room here http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Mark Krynsky
SXSW Interactive is much more then a bloggers and Wed designers conference, Austin welcomes us and the community is transformed, Time is the biggest commitment we give to go the SXSW and the friends we meet and the friends we make is the reward.
- paul mooney
I live in Austin and won't be going to SXSW. Just haven't seen anything compelling enough to get me to go down town.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
I live on the north side of town and it's a 30 minute drive. That's like 30 cents in gas.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
CES said that they were ready for an 8% drop in attendance this year, but the number was 22% drop. I was not able to get the attendance numbers for Oracle OpenWorld, but friends told me it was down from last yr. I made my hotel & air reservations for SXSW & was able to get a good deal. Looks like hotels and airlines are having problems too. This is real, and it will take a long time to recover... but now more than ever companies need to focus and listen to consumers. I see good things some companies.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Julio: SFO's parking garage was empty tonight. Two years ago you would struggle to find a spot on Friday night.
- Robert Scoble
i've got a wish list about attending conferences this year, and i've got to limit this year's to the XMPP Summit or Future of Web Apps.
- Jason Salas
You should go to the one day Accelerator on the 16th. See up and coming companies (sort of SXSW's version of DEMO and TC50). Then we would at least get you for a day..
- Micah Baldwin
that's funny spam
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Robert: maybe Cindy will pay your way ;) ... seriously though, I'm sorry to see you have to go through such changes and feel terribly for Rocky.
- J. McConnell
funny how, when the economy tanks, echo-chamber events just aren't that important anymore...
- Graeme Thickins
Well, I still want to know when you do make it back out to Austin, Robert. Just so I can shake your hand. I probably won't make it to SXSWi this year either, but for me it's just the cost.
- Phil G
Graeme: I really want to go. I might go on my vacation time anyway. Networking events are even more important during downturns.
- Robert Scoble
The .com bubble recession saw the end of Comdex. Don't be surprised if your favorite shows are toast in 2011.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Obama's Latest Pick for DOJ is RIAA Lawyer Who Killed Grokster and Sued Jammie Thomas - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Today, Donald B. Verrilli was appointed to the position of associate deputy attorney general by President Obama. While he is definitely not a household name, Verrilli was the ...
- Bryan Bartow
Anyone have anything to ask Michael Dell? He's standing right next to me. I'll see if I can live video at http://www.kyte.tv/channel...
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Bummed I have been too busy lately to keep up with twitter and FF....shoot. Did you get an interview with Michael? Link?
- Susan Beebe
I have a lot to ask him about, but nothing short enough for a tweet. Thanks Robert!
- Phil G
Do you really think you can compete in the phone biz?
- Bryan Bartow
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What are their upcoming plans for channel partners and services based in the cloud?
- Kevin Tunis
If you were Steve Jobs, would you still give the shareholders their money back?
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
If you were Michael Dell, would you give Dell shareholders their money back? Wait...
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Why does your company refuse to innovate?
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
:-) Oops - just noticed the date
- Kevin Tunis
Oh well.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Ask him what he really thinks about Putin.
- Andrew Leyden
Does he see an opportunity for Android to commoditize the OS space in the low end?
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
LOLjust saw the date too
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
D'oh! I did not even look at the date when I commented. Sorry Robert, my bad.
- Phil G
+1000 Andrew! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Apple teams up with Adobe for iPhone Flash at long last - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
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we'll see
- andy brudtkuhl
Will. Not. Happen.
- Tyson Key
Maybe in a few months.
- jcunwired
Adobe can get something decent running on an ARM if they really want to. It's more than capable.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
Will Safari stop crashing for long enough for me to even get to a Flash interface?
- Brian Chang
I will believe it when I see it.
- Francine Hardaway
Man i can only say what i think, i love tech but from well pokey old N.Ireland, i love my iPone & flash but I fear we will never see Flash on the iphone, this threatens Apples whole profit model. Before App Store and even now the abundance of webapps specially designed for the iphone. Now imagine the Possibilities with Flash & Action script, the small file sizes and complete lack of...
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- Paul Kennedy
+1 for Francine's comment.
- Randy Holloway
Even if they can overcome efficiency issues, existing flash programs are not built for multi-touch, or any form of finger-touch. I suspect a large number of them would be unusable in anything resembling a browser, and would need serious work to make them any good. Adding flash would simply add frustration as people poked around trying to get things to work. I just don't see Apple wanting to expose users to this kind of experience.
- Robin Barooah
Not a fan of this. Flash is a processor hog and most things aren't built for multi touch. My iphone battery already doesn't last too long especially if I use the phone. Flash is going to kill it. I do use twhirl but I stuggle to see how flash is going to add to the iphone / ipod touch experience.
- Chris
from twhirl
On the other hand, I could imagine them entertaining the idea of a flash video player of some sort. Such a thing could be made available by apple in the platform as a cocoa component, or as a binary by Adobe. Video sites such as hulu could then write regular app-store apps to provide a native iPhone GUI to play video from their existing networks. Apple wouldn't lose any of the control they currently have over app distribution, and the iPhone would gain video players for the flash sites.
- Robin Barooah
How big of a deal is multi-touch, Flash and the iPhone? The iPhone webkit stack provides (almost) everything needed for the interface. Flash is badly needed for two thing 1) Video 2) hidden Flash objects for marshalling data between the presentation layer and the server. I'm sure some people will try and use Flash on the iPhone to build "flashy" sites but DHTML/Ajax can do all of that already
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
yes, please! but wait... that will snail up my iPhone! augh!
- Susan Beebe
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