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TECH: The Foray: Paul posted a link
8 minutes ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
Looking through Rose Colored Glasses!! - Paul via Bookmarklet
I doubt that the placement is unintentional. - Helen Hoefele
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Loic Le Meur posted a message on Twitter
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Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter
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Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter
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Robert Scoble posted a message
“Nokia has the goods but I'm not allowed to tell you what or why until 9:45 a.m. (Spain time) today. Wow.”
1 hour ago - Link
But will it counter the iPhone or the G1 in terms of an open platform? - Peter Kelley
It's amazing how Nokia has managed to keep the lid on this! I doubt it's the communicator they're launching. Has to be a more consumer-centric phone. - Bhavishya Kanjhan
Peter: I don't say "wow" lightly, but I can't say more. They did something Apple never does: trusted us with an early view of their devices the night before their big coming out party. - Robert Scoble
Robert, you're such a Tease! That's great to hear, because I just purchased a G1! :D - Daynah
9 hours Robert? I'll set my alarm ;) - Michael Forian
Give us a hint please ;-) - Simon
Although I haven't owned a Nokia in years and love my iPhone, I really hope this is going to be the N-Series touchscreen phone. - Ben Kessler
It doesn't surprise me. Nokia has been the leader in mobile innovation for ever. They've trumped Motorola, Sony Ericsson, LG, Samsung, all with ease... Whatever tricks they're pulling out will no doubt make you froth at the mouth. Just sayin... - Enrique Gutierrez
Oh crap I've also got a friend in the US to get me the G1, I better hold that purchase till Wednesday then! - Bhavishya Kanjhan
Simon: I've already hinted way too much. I don't want to get the blogger relations team fired. It's VERY COOL that they are treating us so well and giving us such great access to their team. - Robert Scoble
Looking forward to tomorrow's announcement... Nokia is an interesting company. - karen2
Only Scoble can get you excited about something you don't want or need (iPhone user here) - James Hull
James: I took a picture of the new thing from Nokia next to an iPhone. Believe me, I'm a MAJOR iPhone fan. More later today. FriendFeed'ers will get first look at the videos and pictures I shot tonight. - Robert Scoble
until Nokia does something about the god awful user interface that is the current Symbian - the hardware is not going to make a lick of difference - ben rogers
Good. I have my fingers crossed. So long as the alarm clock still works when the phone is turned off (the single greatest feature of every Nokia :-)) I'll be a happy chap. - mattpovey
Ben: you'll want to see what they are doing there. Let's just say this isn't the same old N95 interface. - Robert Scoble
Well now I am interested, a new UI, that will be something to talk about - Brendon Wadey
For years, the American cell industry was laughed at as being so far behind the rest of the world. Then comes the iPhone, and guess who laughed, while the Nokias of the world realized how small their advantage had been, and how incremental their products truly were. Nokia is no Apple, they never have been, they don't have the chops to revolutionize. Maybe they'll impress along the lines of an XPERIA. But I don't buy hype when it comes to Nokia. - Christopher Galtenberg
UI will be Maemo or S60 Touch, or maybe.... Android? - Simon
They have alot of work to do to catch up to the iPhone and G1. Nokia has been far down my list of 'must have' phones for a while - Alistair via twhirl
Robert - if its truly different then it will be interesting to see :) - ben rogers
I'm a big Nokia fan, so I'm looking forward to whatever they have to offer. I've decided the iPhone just isn't for me (although it's dead sexy) and the T-Mobile G1 is an obvious Gen1 device. - Jason Huebel
You guys should check out the HTC phones, as in the Touch Diamond, very nice interface and phone. - Brendon Wadey
Might be a new internet tablet running on Linux... - yannick
@Christopher Galtenberg I guess that Nokia sell every day the same amount of phones that Apple sells in a year. Not to mention that modern Nokia's have better cameras, uncrippled bluetooths, better HSDPA, OLED screens (in N85)..... and FM radio! :-) - Ricardo Galli
I wonder if it is a new edition of the N95? My company markets them exclusively here in the states. We are rolling out video to video cell phone software 2Q 2009! It's a sick MMD. (Multi Media Device) - Brandi
eight hours from now, i can wait to buy my iphone. i have almost went to buy my white earpods following lisa simpson - hector juarez
I was told they crash like it's 1999 (and you're running windows 98, remember that). - Ian May
@Ricardo, you can have that argument, it wasn't mine. - Christopher Galtenberg
Just a clue (I don't know what it is), their guy in charge of Social strategy (yes, Nokia has one of those - a clue in and of itself) was at the Palo Alto Facebook Developers Garage a couple months ago. - Jesse Stay
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TECH: The Foray: Zee. posted a link
Great News! Twitter Clones Begin Closing Down…Starting with Pownce.
3 hours ago - via Reshare - Link
Good riddance to bad rubbish... - Zee.
Never used it. Guess that says something. - Derrick
Yep, but if Twitter doesn't learn how to monetize, they won't be around either in a few years - regardless of competition of there lack of. - David Wilson
i kind hope twitter dies too...seriously. - Zee.
Zee hit it right there, it's just another Twitter clone with nothing new to offer, and basically rubbish. Good luck to Sixapart. - Mohomed=genieyclo
me too, zee. - Jim Jannotti
Harsh words guys, why so hostile? - Simon Wicks
So pownce is getting Sandied. - Jim Jannotti
Simon, for my thoughts really best to read my thoughts in the post but frankly I'm sick of services that have had the time to at least get bugs fixed and highly requested features added...and never do and wonder why they're not doing well. Twitter is up there and *if* they continue the way there are - they'll get what they deserve. - Zee.
Ok mainly a bugs thing then. I wrote a big rant here about Twitter, but then decided not to post it, as we dont wanna get off topic. ill save it for another time :) - Simon Wicks
i'm sure there'll be plenty of appropriate occasions... :) - Zee.
I don't think Pownce ever got the traction it needed. - Paul W. Swansen
with awesome press like this http://valleywag.com/tag/leah-... and this http://uncov.com/2007/12/20/po... you wonder what took them so long to die. - Mark Bean
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Loic Le Meur posted a message on Twitter
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Zee. posted a message
“coffee & hot chocolate blended together with milk and hot water is bloody lovely...”
November 26 at 4:57 pm - via IM - Link
Mmm, makeshift mocha... - Tyson Key
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Zee. posted a link
Evolution of Pepsi
Wednesday at 6:28 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
New can... same cat-piss taste :P - Johnny Worthington
lol..not a fan then :) - Zee.
My colours run red in the Cola Wars - Johnny Worthington
me likes Pepsi - Eric @ CS Techcast
Cola= carbonated, coloured, caffeinated, fake-sugar (high fructose corn syrup) water. - Siddharth Deb
Coke over Pepsi any day. - Abby Martin
I grew up on pepsi .. when I was a wee lad .. my dad and granddad drank pepsi and whisky ... I was never allowed very much .. but what I had I loved .. still do - johnpiercy
I only have a cola about once a month (or less, more recently), but my preference is Diet Coke. - Rochelle
i'm trying to get off all fizzy drinks completely....no fieasy task... - Zee.
So are they all going to attack each other soon? Anyone? Anyone? - Nate Pilling via twhirl
Which can was in power when Sculley left for Apple? - Chris White
LOL. I never drink any kind of soda, pop, fizzy drinks whatever you call them. - Ian May
Coke Zero > * - Tudor Bosman
Cokesi/Pepsoke, anyone? ;) - Tyson Key
Blog
20 hours ago - Link
A significant part of Nokia's success stemmed from making sturdy cheap phones. This market is gradually diminishing because of two reasons. People who thought of it as a necessity are now making the move to cellphone as a utility, searching for phones with an encompassing internet and enterprise experience, where Nokia has had no success thus far. (contd.) - Parth Awasthi
The second is that the largest markets for these phones were the emerging economies, India and China. As the consumer capability increases in these countries, we find users willing to spend more on convergent devices. Besides, in the recent times, these markets have been flooded with other low cost manufacturers who are only focused on that segment. They offer cheaper phones with competitive functions and this reduces Nokia's leverage in this zone too. - Parth Awasthi
Parth: yes, and I'm really glad I visited Broadcom last week. The fact that they are putting three chips onto one tells me that more "iPhone like" features will be coming to much lower-cost cell phones soon. Will Nokia do something dramatic this week? I hope so. - Robert Scoble
It's really a shame Nokia's not been able to engage the US like Apple has, because, like you said, their devices are better engineered and have better hardware. They also run open source Symbian, so your development efforts don't have to be blessed by Apple. It's no mystery, though. Just look at the size of Apple's US marketing budget compared to Nokia's. This is similar to PC vs. mac, and do we really want to live in a mac only world? - Mr. Gunn
They're trying to expand to Japan, too. The first thing they need to do is open Symbian, to get the apps going like iPhone and Android! - Mona N.
@Mr. Gunn Thats a great argument to the whole PC vs Mac debate. A lot of people I talk to think Macs are the end all because they are so easy and such, but do we really want everything to have to be blessed by a single company? - Chacha
If they go sexy with netbook like features where the device is even more independent/stand alone, then they will stay in the game. - Tony
Mr. Gunn: sorry, I don't agree with you. Apple's EXPERIENCE is 1000x better than Nokia's. Not even close. Symbian so far sucks compared to Apple's iPhone OS. I can personally demonstrate dozens of reasons why. The Web browser isn't even close. Google maps? Not even close. Until Nokia gives me a much better experience the engineering doesn't matter. - Robert Scoble
Nokia needs to make the philosophical transition. The problem is one of perspective. Apple is an user experience obsessed computer maker designing a communications device. Nokia (and not just nokia) is a communication device maker trying to add computing like features. People focus on the touch screen, but it's really this difference in approach that results in the difference in experience. - mikepk
Guess I'll just keep my comments on FF, I tried posting on Scobelizer but either it's in moderation or got eaten not sure which :) - mikepk
mikepk: I'll go check to see if Akismet blocked your comment for some reason. - Robert Scoble
I have a Nokia N95 and an iPhone for UK and US networks respectively. After a couple of hours using the Nokia, I wanted to throw it out of the window, it was so horrible. Yes it has a great camera and video, but web browsing, email and the phone on it suck compared to the iPhone. - Sally Church
mikepk: I pulled your comment out of the spam bucket. Now do you see why I think FriendFeed is going to win on the Web? :-) - Robert Scoble
I got my first cellphone back in 1992 - a motorola. I have had a few Nokia ones, but they've always been basic. The first smartphone I got was a Microsoft SPV back in 2003, which wasn't too bad. I am more than happy with my Blackberry Curve now though. It does about all that I need, and I like having a keypad, as I use it more for SMS and brief emails than I ever do to make phone calls. - Ian May
Thanks, I wonder why I got flagged? I agree on FF though, I've become a real fan of FF over the past couple of months. I'm really curious what they're going to do for revenue. - mikepk
This comment sponsored by Seagate, maker of the world's top storage devices. Join Seagate on FriendFeed here: http://friendfeed.com/seagate. - Robert Scoble
You mean FriendFeed couldn't do something like that and make money at it? - Robert Scoble
Most hardware makers simply have not come to grips with the fact that they need to be spending MUCH more money on the software for their devices - and that spans across the entire consumer electronics space. The software for 99% of consumer electronics is an embarrassment to the profession. - invariant
I think if FriendFeed can reach a critical mass, and the ad market doesn't contract significantly, advertising may work out for them. I'm curious if it will have the level of mass appeal necessary though. Advertising on friendfeed would require the balance between audience size and ad targeting/specificity. If they use too much of their valuable attention data, though, they may have a negative reaction (ala Beacon). Like I said, I'm curious which path they take :) - mikepk
@invariant agreed, I think the iphone represents a tipping point of focus from minimum necessary software to support hardware, to more commodity hardware supporting advanced software in the mobile (and other) spaces. - mikepk
Robert, I agree that user experience matters, but I think consumer choice matters more. If either Apple or Nokia (or Microsoft) won their respective wars, it would be a loss for the consumer. Either way it would suck, and it certainly seems to me like it would suck more if the secretive, closed source option won out. - Mr. Gunn
@Mr. Gunn - I agree, I hate to see one company dominate in any area. But I'm not buying a G1, for example, no matter how much I'd like to see them compete. It's a crappy phone, and Android will never compete with iPhone because apps cannot be natively compiled (how open is that anyway?). - invariant
Very interested to see what happens here, thinking on my next smartphone purchase - Martha
I wasn't talking about Android. Nokia bought Symbian and released it as open source. Anyone can write software that will run, natively, on Symbian devices, without needing the hardware manufacturer's permission. That is what open means, and why the iphone can never be more than a toy. No matter how many marketing dollars they spend, it still won't become a good idea to let the hardware manufacturer control the content on the device. Who does Apple think they are? Sony? - Mr. Gunn
I think it is more accurate to say that, with the open-sourcing of Symbian (something they seem to still be working on at Nokia), you can find Symbian on other phones without restriction. With regard to applications, it will depend a lot on the built-in rules for recognition of safe applications, usually involving signed code. Whether you can roll-your own apps and have your own phone install them will depend on the how the phone was set up by its vendor/manufacturer, seems to me. I agree that it is superior to the traditional Apple approach of taxing developers. Not sure why they keep finding this irresistable in Cupertino, although sheer number of iPhone apps suggests its not a problem. - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl
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Zee. shared an item on Google Reader
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FriendFeed Feedback: Pat Hawks posted a message
“Nweb question: When FriendFeed imports my video podcast and allows playing the video inline, is there anyway to change (actually, create) the tumbnail for the video?”
3 hours ago - Link
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FriendFeed Feedback: Mads posted a message
“I'd like the option to make pictures from my feeds show up like youtube videos / flickr pictures do. For example, I have this Ffffound-feed that is merely pictures: http://ffffound.com/home/mads/...
October 21 at 10:26 am - Link
Oh, and I love the new real-time view and FF in general by the way :) - Mads
yeah, and I'd like to see thumbnails of my favorites on StubleUpon, Digg, Delicious, ... - flapic
If your blog is a WordPress blog there is a plugin that can do this. - Kol Tregaskes
I think Digg videos show up but not images. :-( - Kol Tregaskes
You've almost got it, Mads. Just add width and height attributes to your media:thumbnail elements. - Bruce Lewis
Sorry, didn't see your comment till now. Thanks for the pointers Bruce - unfortunately I can't control the feed myself. It is generated by ffffound.com. - Mads
Hey, now it suddenly works! Thanks for listening Friendfeed! Just improved my use with at least a thousand percent. - Mads
Looks like the friendfeeders enhanced their Media RSS code to fetch thumbnails and determine the height and width if the feed doesn't supply them. Great improvement! Expect lots more images on ff now. - Bruce Lewis via fftogo
I need to figure out how to make this work for my blog. I include pictures in most posts but they aren't coming through to FF. This should be doable with a hosted WordPress blog served through FeedBurner, yes? - Daniel J. Pritchett
I just installed a MediaRSS plugin for WordPress. We'll soon see if it shows up on my FriendFeed. - Daniel J. Pritchett
It didn't work without some tweaking, but I've got it now: http://friendfeed.com/e/ed5b87... - Daniel J. Pritchett
FriendFeed
FriendFeed Feedback: Mitch Wagner posted a message
“I'd like some ability to add images and even embedded video to blog feeds. I've been experimenting with trying to put images in every post I make using the bookmarklet and found that the community seems to like that -- but that leaves my own items looking more drab in comparison.”
November 24 at 11:11 am - Link
I think this would require some kind of tool by which you could go into an item from one of your own feeds and edit it manually. Not sure how it could be implemented in a way that makes adding images to one of those items as easy as adding them in the bookmarklet. - Mitch Wagner
Why would you need to select an image? It should just grab the first image in the feed. Friendfeed's lack of action on improving this aspect of their service is really disappointing. - Bjorn Stromberg
The feed might not contain an image -- or it might be an ugly or inappropriate image that I don't want to include. - Mitch Wagner
The whole point of FF is that content is supposed to be pulled in automagically after setting up the feed. Manually submitting/editing your blog posts would defeat the purpose. I think FF would do well to simply display the first image it finds as well as an excerpt/first paragraph to make them a little meatier. - Eric P
Eric - I think the behavior you describe should be the default (possibly user-configurable if people find it doesn't work), but we should also have the ability to go back and manually edit the content. - Mitch Wagner
Your blog needs to provide Media RSS. Then FriendFeed will embed your media. - Bruce Lewis via fftogo
There's a WP plugin that can do this with a little modification: http://friendfeed.com/e/ed5b87... - Daniel J. Pritchett
FriendFeed
FriendFeed Feedback: andrei_c posted a message
“I think FriendFeed needs streamlined external RSS subscription. I'm weary of the routine of making imaginary friends, then adding blogs to them.”
3 hours ago - Link
Why not just create a room and add the feeds directly? You can then set this room to show in your home feed. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
@Tina yes, it's a workaround... But then, if you want to organize external blogs in lists (e.g. by subjects), you'll have to create a separate room for each list. It should be simpler than that. - andrei_c
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Snow bear
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FriendFeed
“Please permanently archive old material!”
Friday at 2:59 pm - Link
This has come up several times - a lot of older posts appear to disapper. For people using FriendFeed to, e.g., liveblog conferences (http://friendfeed.com/rooms/sc...), it's pretty disappointing to have old stuff disappear. - Michael Nielsen
E.g., this problem has just come up here: http://friendfeed.com/e/a9548d... - Michael Nielsen
Especially for the life science community where FF has become such a central part of our world - Deepak
The stuff is there, you just can't page to it. If you search for the thread, or if you bookmark the direct link to the thread, you can find it and it will not expire. The paging is due to performance reasons, and it's something that they've said they'd like to eventually increase. - Mark Trapp
We could individually put all "Liked" items to a bookmarking service, but archiving is also about FF discussions, which are sometimes way more important than the link itself. - Pawel Szczesny
The problem with searching is often you don't really know what to search for -- you know something is there but you can't find the right text search criteria. Maybe if we could search by original poster, date/time, post type it might be better (maybe not though) - Brian Sullivan
Pawel: I mean a direct link to the discussion on FriendFeed. Things don't disappear from FriendFeed: they're still there. You just can't use the pager at the bottom to get to them, but if you search for them, or you bookmark the link to the discussion on FriendFeed (you can get it if you click on the More link, then click on "link to this entry"), you'll be able to pull up old stuff. - Mark Trapp
Mark, sorry, I've commented without refreshing the page. So it means that if the bookmarked direct link to the discussion page on the FF doesn't work anymore it's only because the author of the post deleted it? That's a good news. I wasn't sure why some stuff disappears but other doesn't. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel: that would be my guess. I've found things I've posted on May 28 through search (example: http://friendfeed.com/e/d2c555...), and I'm sure with a little effort I could find things from March (when I joined). - Mark Trapp
im willing to pay for this feature or see tons of ads - Kyle Weller
Just tarpipe stuff you like to evernote! - Antony Pace
@antonypace How do you “tarpipe stuff“ to evernote? - Klaus Alexander Seistrup
@Klaus Maybe this will help http://ub0.cc/08/2H - endiaferon
@endiaferon Thanks for your help! :) - Klaus Alexander Seistrup
@Pawel - If you subscribe to the RSS feed for a user or a room it will save the direct links, and those will include the discussion. Maybe they could be sent to delicious or something with an RSS to email subscription. - Mike Chelen
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FriendFeed Feedback: Justin Korn posted a message
“I'm sure it has been requested before and perhaps you guys are already working on it, but, just to be sure: The ability to search my Likes and Comments would be a really nice add.”
4 hours ago - Link
Yes, that would be great. - Alejandro S.
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Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter
Backtype
Robert Scoble commented on a blog post on Backtype
yesterday at 8:44 am - Link
"Funny, I first saw your Tweet on FriendFeed. I think you're missing the point of FriendFeed, but that's OK. Out of the 4,600 I'm following on FriendFeed you're on my top 10 list for most interesting. When I see you later in the month we'll talk about why you have FriendFeed wrong. Oh, and FriendFeed will never kill either Twitter or Facebook. If I ever said that I was wrong to say that. I see FF as an add-on to Twitter now." - Robert Scoble
the best place for meta-chatting ain't it? - Louis Choquel via twhirl
FF is just a complier. Twitter is where you get info firsthand. - Bob Blunk
Bob, I see a lot on here first. Lots of tweets from twitterers I don't yet follow. It's easier here to find interesting folk to follow. - Nicola Quinn
Nicola: I could not agree more, but FF still just mostly complies information that people enter on other sites. - Bob Blunk
LOL I agree w/ Nicola, and it begs the question is it even necessary to follow then? I suppose here is where you could say twittrt & ff comepete w/ eachother$ - sofarsoshawn
FF is more conversational; Twitter is essentially a multicast/broadcast tool. I find myself commenting/replying here, but posting new things of my own to Twitter (knowing they'll be picked up by FF). - John
John: just the opposite for me. i post to ff knowing it will go to twitter. ff is my dashboard at this point. - Brendten Eickstaedt
I'm the other way around due to twitter 140 char limit. - thomasrdotorg
yep. love that ff is smart enough to put an ff.im in the post 2 so that ur entire post is available to twitterers 2 - Brendten Eickstaedt
I find it kind of odd that Tim was responding to Robert's comments on Backtype, but didn't want to see "friendfeed with comments"... - anna
Mostly but not always Bob. I posted a message here which started a discussion that was only on here. - Nicola Quinn
sofarsoshawn - Yes I still think it's necessary to follow people. I like to chat to people on Twitter I've found here. - Nicola Quinn
John, yes FF is more conversational but I like the randomness of Twitter too. - Nicola Quinn
Twitter is updates, fun and crazy, FF is the tool used to update all those applications like itself, and FF is information, updates, interesting, conversations.. - Brendon Wadey
FriendFeed is my Scoble filter :) - Sam Pullara
FriendFeed
FriendFeed Feedback: Mike Chelen posted a message
“Please let non-admin users contribute feeds or services to a public Room. Thanks”
4 hours ago - Link
I'd be up for this, provided the admin can choose to approve the feeds first. - xero
FriendFeed
“It would be great if we could edit messages we post the way we can edit comments.”
19 hours ago - Link
+1000 - Jason Huebel
This has been requested for as long as I have used FF -- not implemented and never any response from anybody at FF that I have seen. - Brian Sullivan
I can understand why you want this but there's a problem. You create a message and your readers don't like it. You notice that you have a problem and you change the message to suite you. And the comments become invalid. Or you make a comment and then the guy who created the message change it and your comment becomes useless. It can work if there are no comments. - Johan
10000000000000000000000+++++++! I agree! - Colide81 (James)
Johan But the editing of comments is allowed -- with potentially the same effect. In the end the poster has control of the post (can delete it, remove comments). Why should editing the post be any different? - Brian Sullivan
Agreed with Johan - LouCypher
Perhaps a post-hoc subtitle would be appropriate - give the author the chance to insert an "admin comment" between the title and the first comment for clarifications as needed. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Johan - I've had it happen where someone deleted all of their comments rendering mine useless. So that's not a good argument. In that case, we should never be able to edit/delete/moderate any comments at all if we can't edit a message. - Mattie Kenny
@Johan - You can do that same thing now with comments. You can also just delete the post and start over if you want, you'll just lose comments. Who cares if you changed it? If you start a flame war and decide to keep the post up, then change the post text, someone in the comments would probably catch on anyway. The rest of the Internet works this way, so I don't see why a FF post should change that. The commentators can chose to delete/edit their comments as well. - xero
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