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I wonder how the developers feel about their investment in the FriendFeed platform. Share your thoughts? Has today's announcement changed the way you feel?
Nispell, Kol Tregaskes, Larry Lewis and 12 other people liked this
TIRED —And I rarely feel so when I code for fun. The best eg. might be NoiseRiver which I made in a single month with people watching over my shoulder, _THAT_ was fun.
- directeur
sitting looking at hours and hours of personal code now nothing but digital dust
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
At least it might be around for a while.
- Rob Diana
Given the choice, would you develop for Facebook or FriendFeed? I would think Facebook
- Bwana ☠
Now, you have to choose FaceBook. Would you invest time in a site where you don't know what will happen? (Outside of thinking that for any startup of course)
- Rob Diana
I had a few hobby projects I was working on: no incentive to continue working on them. There's next to zero chance the API will continue in any situation; Facebook has its own platform. Facebook's platform wasn't appealing to me the last time I looked: maybe I'll go through it again.
- Mark Trapp
I'm annoyed, I was seriously considering fixing up the FF Comments plugin because a few people had asked me to, but I just don't see the point now
- Glenn Slaven
Personally as a developer, Not FF, this deal means that all the time and effort I put into my experimental personal projects may one day actually pay off. Not a waste of time after all. FF have shown that the dream is still alive, and congrats to them for doing it in this dreadful downturn.
- Bryan Whitehouse
And thank you for that Glenn.
- Anika
Bwana - I suppose the same (maybe) that MANY Twitter developers felt over the weekend ... Don't put all your eggs ..... ?! We still don't know if FF will stay autonomous to some extent. Lots of conclusions being jumped to here.
- Charlie Anzman
+1 @Charlie
- .LAG liked that
Whoa. I got me a +1. (Thanks .LAG) Can I get some sleep now? Seriously ... People have Twitter Consulting businesses (some are actually real :). Can you imagine the 'new' client? "Hey you told me to tweet and then it got attacked ?!". The FF crew has always been extremely responsive. Have a question ... beef. POST IT! ... Maybe they and Zuck will read the Feedback Group??!! Why change now?
- Charlie Anzman
The acquisition funding model isn't new. I'm thinking Twitter is envious about now.
- Mattb4rd
Friendfeed's API is a dead end and Facebook's "API" (I put that in quotes) is the worst I've ever tried to work with. Lose-lose :(
- Carter Rabasa
from iPhone
I think I'm done developing tools for proprietary APIs. Between Twitter turning off features last year and this shift in FriendFeed's direction and business model, I'm tired of not having control. From here on out it's all about open standards and tools that work with multiple systems. (see also http://friendfeed.com/feedtech)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken++. Take a look on NoseRub...
- Marcos Marado
FeedFace?!!?!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!! (Edit: Thanks Brian)
Hunt, Jason A. Samfield, Chris Rogers and 219 other people liked this
I wanna laugh but can't!
- vijay
come on... really?
- Andrew Smith
Feedface more likely
- Brian Sullivan
lol Feedface!
- Fee501st
Well.... FriendFeed is going to start to suck very soon >:O
- Gamerx287
it's facefeed
- ben bloch
:D
- zsafwan
Updated. :)
- Bwana ☠
:(
- Josh Haley
:(
- FFTornado
damn that pic really describes what i feel lol
- Edgar Rodríguez
Could be a good thing, just hope they don't change much.
- David Bain
I just clicked 'like' but I can definitively say that I truly 'unlike' this development.
- berchman
"Damn you Salazar!" - not sure why that quote popped into my head with this pic.
- Rob Diana
The first social site where I really feel comfortable... *sniffles*
- Yolanda
I think this is a good thing for both FriendFeed and Facebook, and bad for Twitter.
- Kirkland Reynolds
@berchman I like the "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!" ;)
- taline
Seriously, my jaw is still open
- Bwana ☠
s'cuse me, i gotta go vomit again.
- Joe Silence is not dead
still sitting here stun and confused
- Kim Landwehr
I bet the API will be taken down as well.
- David Bain
"Where does all this blood on my shirt come from...? OH NO!! I was SHOT!!!" :(
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Already named by Bwana. LOL
- Michael Fidler
the worlds cats association stages a strike over this buyout... am sooo joining it!!
- Gtp19
My reaction.exactly!
- Krishnamoorthy
That is me right now.
- Lurking Grue
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH it's a bit hard to laugh :-(
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's why I pulled out the cat Dobromir. We need to laugh around this :)
- Bwana ☠
OMG i just read this and am freaking out... . *gasp*
- Susan Beebe
XD I mean >___<
- Nia
ADS! here they come ! waaaaaa
- Bicentennial (Franc)
Facefeed ... yea thats what i think its going to be :)
- Bhowmik Shah
First I was like :o then I was like :/ then I was like :(
- Jemm
Oprah, Aston and Demi! I can't wait! NOT! Bwana: You'd have got a like from me if not for the cat pic.
- Dale
Doubtful it will be good...
- Rick Cogley
Funny cat picture, tho.
- Rick Cogley
Aahahah.. that's it! I think it will be good to lunch FF to another level.
- PiresMachine
Hez took the wordz outta my mouth
- sofarsoShawn
Feedly is changing the way I read news on the Web. - http://www.feedly.com
thomas elton, Kolja, Kol Tregaskes and 49 other people liked this
what do you like better about feedly then friendfeed or others? just curious. I'm trying to cut back, not add more tools, great s they might be. i'm exploding!
- washwords
Can I like this 3x. Thanks for a GREAT recommendation, Bwana. My new fave Firefox extension.
- Leo Laporte
Wow, even the screensaver function is cool...I might be leaning to feedly and away from greader...
- Anthony Farrior
Revisited based on a few 'endorsements' here on FF. Wow. Easy, fast, just cool.
- Charlie Anzman
I definitely need to spend more time with it, because on first impression, it's just too much information in one place.
- cecily
What are the implications of "no thanks"? Same as "Mark as read"?
- Andrew Smith
@cecily if you get a chance, go to the feedly dashboard (through dashboard link at the top right of the screen) and click on the star next to the sources you like the most and see if the what's new page looks any better. The other option is to click on the "cover" icon on the top left on the nav bar and see if that view is more diggestable. If you have specific ideas on how to make the interface more appealing let us know!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@andrew no thanks = mark the article as read + let the feedly recommendation engine know that you did not like this recommendation. This metadata is then used with other criteria to unfluence future recommendations.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@Edwin, thanks, good to know.
- Andrew Smith
@Bwana Where is Feedly video, I love Bwana TV more than Scobleizer TV : ))
- Erhan Erdogan
Edwin, one main suggestion - use plain language. Why call it "no thanks" when "mark item as read" is more intuitive (and doesn't require guessing)?
- cecily
Hmm... have speed dial already loaded upon feedly install and cannot find feedly anywhere
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Mati likes it! :):)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm in love!
- Angel Smith
I installed and uninstalled all in 1 minute.
- Aaron Myers
Erhan, thanks :) I need to learn how to utilize it properly before I screencast it...it's coming soon though, I love this thing
- Bwana ☠
I tried it but wasn't that impressed with it.
- BCK
Looks promising, but I'm always suspicious of extensions that don't come from Mozilla addons site...
- João Almeida
What do you guys say to the folks who say Feedly crapped all over their Google Reader (adding feeds to it)?
- David Risley
It's in this thread David: http://friendfeed.com/e... We asked for a bigger warning since the one there is easily missed, the Feedly guys chime in as to why they did it that way. It doesn't "crap" all over your feed, it does create new folders, but they are easily removed. They are working on an undo procedure as well.
- Bwana ☠
@Bwana waiting impatiently : )
- Erhan Erdogan
Oh my lord. I just checked my Google Reader, it's has 2348279384723 new feeds. Thanks Freedly.
- Aaron Myers
want to see converstaion integrated to feedly. then it really rocks. someone out there should get ff and disqus into feedly in an api way.
- kosmar
I was sort of suprised that some were vehement about the "crap". I woke up and still am enthralled.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I love it!!! The only feature I'd add is the ability to customize how my emailed items look...
- Kenneth LeFebvre
@David Risley fixed. feedly has now a better msg and automated-undo http://edwink.devhd.com/2008...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I'm really liking Feedly as well. We'll see how it goes
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
iGoogle has been my home page for well over a year and what I have found is that via widgets its generally there for me to either click on gmail or to go into google reader - the other widgets are generally worth an odd glance but thats about it - I've put feedly as my home page and will see how this works out - but first impressions is a clean easy to use interface even if you have a few hundred feeds to juggle..
- Jican
Feedly is awesome: I had a few hiccups after installation, but I re-installed, and it has been a real help in 2 ways: 1) motivated me to clean up my feeds and sort them into a major category 2)motivates me daily to actually skim through and read the content that is closest to my current interests. well done!
- Terri MacMillan
LOVE Feedly.
- Fleagle
I want it for chrome. Any chance?
- Er-fun
Not dissing Feedly, but didn't experience anything that made me want to give up Google Reader when I tried Feedly a few months ago. Anyone care to explain why I should try again?
- Chris Stevenson
I don't work for them, so I don't see a reason to convince you. Some people like it, some don't.
- Fleagle
Hi Chris: feedly tries to provide a magazine like summary of your google reader. Some users only care about productivity and find the magazine like interface a step backward. Some users like it and use it in concert with their google reader. Some people prefer using the magazine like interface only.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
"FF connected me with new friends that I would never have known. FB connects me with old friends I could have done without. :(" - jcunwired http://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
Ben, Mitchell Tsai, William Phillips and 148 other people liked this
Exactly
- Shevonne
The best comment I've heard today!
- Bonnie Foster
its actually quite easy to ignore someone you could have done without. *sigh*
- Sidney
Wow. Some of you apparently live terrible lives, filled with terrible people you seem unable to avoid, with the possible exception of this one website, I feel terrible about that.Of course, it's also possible you've wildly overestimated the difference between the people you know here and the people who know you in real life.
- Richard Lawler
Or it could be, you're wrong.
- Bwana ☠
Nope, you're the ones who keep saying everyone you know and everything you do on facebook sucks. That must be terrible.
- Richard Lawler
Yes Richard because clearly I can make friends from all over the world on my daily stroll through the park. Or not.
- vijay
Richard: That there's a possible incompatibility between networks centered around personal relationships -- or at least people you've physically encountered -- and networks based largely on interests, seems pretty clear to me.
- Christopher A Carr
Yes, it's confirmed. You're wrong.
- Bwana ☠
bingo
- Jim Goldstein
My life wouldn't be the same without vijay
- Rodfather
If everyone you've physically encountered sucks, the problem just might be you.
- Richard Lawler
Hear, hear. This news sucks.
- Adi
Oh Lord....not this guy :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Richard: I suppose there's nothing stopping you from deleting your ff account now and heading on over to Facebook full-time.
- Christopher A Carr
I like this post, but I love all my social networks equally lol.
- Ryan Peach
Luckily, unlike so many here, I can keep using any website I want the same way I did before without devolving into a baseless bitchfest about what might happen someday somewhere. Or, I could have kneejerk reaction based on irrational fear. hmmm
- Richard Lawler
And you're very good at keeping your assumptions to yourself
- Bwana ☠
Richard: Were friendfeed to say that it's going to survive, or at least that FB will have a more open, public facing side to it as a result of the acquisition, then I think the bitching would subside. As it stands, there's not much reason to think that anything of friendfeed will survive. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's needs, there would be no friendfeed.
- Christopher A Carr
On the bright side, I can have a kneejerk reaction on FB and remove baseless bitches from my friends list. :)
- jcunwired
Except, they haven't really said anything. So thinking anything will or won't survive is premature. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's expectations there would be no need for war, sickness or evil deeds. Every online community is the same as every other one, if friendfeed, for whatever reason, doesn't keep doing what you want ti to do, you'll use something else. It hasn't ever been perfect and it never will be.
- Richard Lawler
I told you Richard. You're wrong. "Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority." http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Bwana ☠
Well, you told me what techcrunch's opinion is, because that's what I wanted to know. Thanks! (there's sarcasm there)
- Richard Lawler
Ok let me slow it down for you. The team is splitting. The product is going to merge with Facebook. (No sarcasm)
- Bwana ☠
Richard: "Every online community is the same as every other one..." That's nonsense.
- Christopher A Carr
I can wholly identify with JC's statement.
- JA Castillo
Wow Bwana...you are really bitchy in this thread...I think Richard is making some good points. If you are having issues with the people you 'accept' on Facebook there really is only one person who you can point the finger. You. Facebook makes it quite easy to NOT get involved with any person.
- Sidney
Thanks. Appreciate the feedback.
- Bwana ☠
I accept friends in Facebook because if they took the time to want to be friends with me, I feel obligated. I'm also not one to hurt a person's feelings by turning them down. That's what its like in a closed community like Facebook. Friendfeed is totally open - I can read, share, participate and like without having any obligation whatsoever to the people I interact with.
- jcunwired
Sidney - Refusing to see that there is a clear difference between the people and the atmosphere of Facebookers and Friendfeeders is either foolishness or stubbornness. There is a world in facebook, full of garbage, that people think is "ok" because it evolved from other crap.
- Matthew DeVries
Same here. Wisely said!
- Nia
There is the matter of censorship too. You really have to post some very illegal crap before FF will step in a mod it. Facebook bounces you for saying breastfeeding.
- Matthew DeVries
I couldn't have put it better myself. Just got back and saw the news. Still digesting it.
- Charlie Anzman
Well said guys!
- Susan Beebe
Actually, I love most of my Facebook friends, or I wouldn't have (re)connected. But FF is a different community.
- Glen Campbell
I like Facebook friends, I don't like that think it's ok to kidnap me, poke me, or ask me what Fantana girl I'm most like. I don't like that they think I'm the misanthropic curmudgeon with the problem when I ask them not to "It's what Facebook is for"
- Matthew DeVries
LOL
- Thomas Power
It's interesting to see ho people use different networking sites - for example - I use FB for personal connections and family and the rest are business related.
- Graham Bunting
I like my friends, but you are definently right. I just got on friendfeed any advice on making friends?
- Ryan Peach
Smart!
- Martha
Great insight!
- William Phillips
Honestly, if things get really bad here, I don't know where I'll go.
TheHenry, J. Abdul-Qahhar, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF and 51 other people liked this
Agreed.
- Amani
Same boat......
- Matthew DeVries
I'm with you Bwana! Where next?
- Steve
The problem will be that ff.com goes away.
- Kevin Whalen
Quick, someone make a FF clone that we can all jump ship to!
- Carlton Prest
If you build it, they will come. ;)
- Shevonne
yep
- vijay
Twitter I suppose... where else is there that's even comparable?
- Nathan Chase
Same here - there is nowhere else that offers what FF does.
- Patrick Jordan
YAY PLURK
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm going back to BBS's and ANSI graphics
- Rodfather
I'm glad I went to Tumblr after Pownce died.
- Guillermo Esteves
quickly let's bring back pownce!
- Edgar Rodríguez
Geocities?
- Fee501st
Ning?
- Rochelle
crap, i may just got back to Undernet. more likely head back to message boards, tho.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Back to irc
- Fee501st
I know. This is a real bummer.
- Ladybug Heather
I've heard my podcast people talk about Ning! Is it good? What about Scoble's new joint? Warehouse 54 or something?
- Matthew DeVries
Don't worry Bwana, something else will come along. It always does.
- David
LMFAO @ Warehouse 54 :D
- vijay
I'd say it's time to get behind a platform, not a service. An open source, hosted FriendFeed-style aggregation/conversation platform. Mix in some Laconica, some JaikuEngine, maybe some NoseRub features.
- Ken Sheppardson
Does Google really have nothing in this space?
- Matthew DeVries
Wave
- Bwana ☠
Google Reader is a distant second
- Bwana ☠
But they are bolting things on to Google Reader pretty rapidly now, aren't they?
- Matthew DeVries
The next year is going to be interesting.....how do people like Apple get factored into this? Or do they steer clear and just provide the hardware for the software...its a catch 22, are they a hardware or software company?
- Jason Stephens
I think they got wind of the acquisition Matthew - Look at all the changes Google Reader did the past few months... Comments, likes, share status... All FriendFeed like features
- Bwana ☠
we'll have to pull our rafts together and tie them off until we figure it out. Hang out at Bwana.org on one day, then FFundercats ustream on another, etc.
- Josh Haley
Now it all begins to make a whole lot of sense. Google vs Facebook
- Bwana ☠
Well, if that is truely my choices? Google duh.
- Matthew DeVries
Google vs MS
- vijay
I don't get the Google vs Facebook argument, makes no sense to me whatsoever.
- jcunwired
So Google reader? We'll make that the Plan A life raft, in case we come in tomorrow and find that HR has cleaned out our desks for us and security is taking our ID badges?
- Matthew DeVries
lol!!
- Bwana ☠
Posterous???
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
What about.....no...it's to crazy....I don't know..maybe, it's just crazy enough to.....How bout 4chan?!
- Matthew DeVries
hahahahha
- Bwana ☠
Bwana - you're closer to this kind of stuff than us. Is the "last day" here hours away? Days? Months?
- Matthew DeVries
My semi-educated guess is that we'll start seeing major changes in early 2010
- Bwana ☠
I really doubt we'll see any changes on FriendFeed... for better or worse. My guess is the engineering team will just switch over to working on Facebook features and functionality, FriendFeed will continue to exist as-is, with only a minimal sustaining engineering effort, and one day 6-12 months from now an effort will start to migrate users over from FF to FB.
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't understand all the crying when nothing definitive has developed yet. I don't see why the "digiratti" couldn't build another. Besides, can't Google Wave do a lot of what FF does currently? Build a community around that.
- Darrell Bell
I disagree, FF basically admitted changes are coming in their announcementn post... the verbiage was .. "for the time being"
- Bwana ☠
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Bwana ☠
True Bwana. I read that too. It could be branding changes for all we know. I don't know. That's the point, none of us do.
- Darrell Bell
Taylor and Cox told TechCrunch that “the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook.” We all know that statement is incongruous.
- Anthony Citrano
Seriously, my true point still stands. Another one could be built if the demand is great for a FF like service. I think this should be hint for some developers to get cracking.
- Darrell Bell
Of course changes are coming someday, whether or not they had ever been acquired, things will change at somepoint. that's hardly a smoknig gun there.
- Richard Lawler
I know where I'm going. Google (even though I'm deeply suspicious of their privacy policies) - Wave + Reader = Win. They also seem to be on the verge of real-time. That said, I will persist with FriendFeed/Facebook - I don't want to lose the friendships & connections I've made here.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
+ Ahsan Ali "That said, I will persist with FriendFeed/Facebook - I don't want to lose the friendships & connections I've made here." Bet this gives jump start to something new in each of our lives here on FF. It's organic so different for everyone. :)))
- Myrna
SlingPlayer 1.1 does 3G streaming...not in the US - http://www.9to5mac.com/iPhone-...
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Oh hai there Socialmedian. What have you guys been up to lately?
Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie), V Mary Abraham, AJ Batac and 14 other people liked this
LOL Yep. This is me, going back to my Social Median account to see what I have aggregated there. Even looking at putting *back* all my feeds into Strands.
- Anika
Strands was next on my list :D
- Bwana ☠
The thing with Strands is that they've changed the focus to a fitness site. So, all the aggregating looks kind of dumb there. Several months ago (probably around Dec.), I deleted most of my feeds into my profile. Then just a couple of weeks ago, I stopped following everyone there. So SocialMedian, but it's such a PITA setting up the newgroups or whatever they're called.
- Anika
Strands as you once knew it is even more dead.
- Louis Gray
Pish, Louis. As an fitness tracker, Strands is AWESOME!
- Anika
Sad to hear
- Bwana ☠
hahahaha!
- Susan Beebe
Strands dead, too? sad
- Susan Beebe
And here we are, with open arms ...
- Jason Goldberg
Oh, FriendFeed is now Facebook’s “official” R&D department! - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Carlton Hackett liked this
Never thought I'd see "FriendFeed is dead" and "I'm excited" in Robert's vocabulary.
- Bwana ☠
Haha...nice observation Bwana.
- Mark Krynsky
in a hurry much Robert? *Mark Zuckerberg, founder of FriendFeed*
- Tim Hoeck
FriendFeed features that Facebook needs to absorb - http://news.cnet.com/8301-27...
"FriendFeed is dead" - Robert Scoble 08/10/2009 http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Alex Kapranoff, monkeystick, Tanath and 21 other people liked this
Yep, true.
- Kol Tregaskes
Indeed it is
- Pete Gilbert
Sad day.
- Tom Landini
Sad.
- Zachary TG
my heart stopped when he said that - my ears hurt too :(
- Susan Beebe
Let's try to be positive, here. Negative is my realm.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
What is up with all this doom and gloom?
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
:(((( WaaaaaaAAAAAaa!!11
- AJ Batac
*sniff*
- Johnny
Watching the Podcast Carnivale with @Geekazine http://www.ustream.tv/channel... Prizes being given away! #summerofpodcasts
I feel like I need to call Nagel from Ocean's 12/13 to consult on an exit strategy :)
Anton Tanderup, Carlton Prest, Nispell and 2 other people liked this
16,195 comments, 2,143 likes, and an untold amount of posts, are now in jeopardy. And I'm overreacting? Puhlease.
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, Ethan, Mark Krynsky and 31 other people liked this
This is cause for concern and not a kneejerk
- Bwana ☠
If you disagree, you don't value your data as much as I do
- Bwana ☠
I don't want to hand that over to Facebook.
- Bwana ☠
I would hope that the guys at FF allow us a way to export the conversations.
- EricaJoy
Agree, I don't want to move over to FB. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
+100 Bwana
- vijay
I'm pretty sure it's all there and accessible via the API. Maybe it's time to get cracking on some robust export tools...
- Ken Sheppardson
That's what I posted on my blog. I'm very concerned about my content. That's my #1 focus right now. All the stuff I've shared from FF to my blog, the comments...where does that go?
- Anika
You export them, and then what? What do you do with them? I still have my exported Pownce posts somewhere in my hard drive, collecting dust as a massive XML file.
- Guillermo Esteves
I search them of course. I repost them. I use them.
- Bwana ☠
If someone tries to misquote me in the future, I'll have the real data
- Bwana ☠
I would think FF -> Posterous, Tumblr, Wordpress, static HTML would all be reasonable options.
- Ken Sheppardson
And yeah, I know, Facebook could buy Posterous tomorrow and this would start again. That's a bridge for another day.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks Ken for ruining my brain
- Bwana ☠
I never thought FB could buy Posterous until you just said it :(
- Bwana ☠
If we had wanted to post stuff on FB, they would have been posted over there surely? I use FB for connecting with far away family and friends; they don't want to see my science and cancer links, it's way over their head. Posterous is nice but it's like commenting on lots of disjointed blogs; there's no easy way to see conversations other than in isolation.
- Sally Church
the prob with facebook is it has too many features, worthless features. friend feed is very tuned.
- Marco
The possible feature changes, integrations and whatnot, I can get over. What I can't and won't get over is my data belonging to Facebook. That's where I draw the line.
- Bwana ☠
+100 Bwana! Why are people not thinking about their data!? Features? UI? SECONDARY! data is PRIMARY!
- vijay
Exactly. I have so much stored here, liked here, and commented on here that it would be impossible to back it all up for reuse. I, you, we helped build FF to be what it is - with our collective content. So sad.
- jcunwired
On 2nd thought, maybe I should be more cautious abt making the jump from Twitter to FF as my primary Status Stream.
- Lawrence Liu
Bwana, rest assured, its not going away immediately. From Bret: "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" https://friendfeed.com/friendf... I sure feel reassured, don't you? :P
- jcunwired
Hah! good find.
- Bwana ☠
I'll remember that
- Bwana ☠
lmorchard already created one in php IIRC -- http://github.com/lmorcha...
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Thanks bear, I'll be shopping for more later
- Bwana ☠
I may be a no body in St Augustine, FL, but my content is my content. I hate investing time in something just to loose it. That's how this feels.
- tomit
Facebook owns all of your FriendFeed conversations. Right?
Roney Smith, Ben Hanten, Jesper Lind and 23 other people liked this
that blows right
- Eran Even-Kesef
Where are we all going now?
- Chris Nixon
To the store.... time to punish my body ;)
- Bwana ☠
Thats my concern - our conversations, our posted pics, links, all of our aggregation. Only half serious, but with FB you never know.
- jcunwired
That would not be funny!
- David Bain
Yeah, I would guess FB has a perpetual license to use all content we've posted as they see fit.
- Ken Sheppardson
all your conversing are belong to us - facebook
- skunkman62
That's one of my many concerns.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
:'(
- zsafwan
I know... especially DMs, private rooms, etc. :-(
- Ladybug Heather
I wonder if stuff posted to private rooms will remain private once the evil FB overlords get their grubby little hands on it.
- Joey Gibson
yep
- andy brudtkuhl
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- Happy Haroween
I need some Little Debbies now.
- Ladybug Heather
Will it or not?
- Kamilah Gill
Yea! I think it is a great thing. :)
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
"Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook" http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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RT @BreakingNews: URGENT -- Two massive earthquakes strike, one a 7.7 off the Andaman Islands, another a 6.6 off Japan. Details to come.
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Whoa 7.7? That puts this FF thing into perspective.
- Andrew Smith
Tsunami warning. Not good. http://twitter.com/Breakin...
- Mike Doeff
I see lots of folks saying goodbyes on FriendFeed. What a day
Alex Scoble, Mark Aitken, Nispell and 5 other people liked this
its all posturing no one is actually going to leave....ASTROTURF movement
- Jason Stephens
yeah I'm not going anywhere until they close shop for good
- Nathan Chase
Yeah, i pretty much hate facebook these days, and if FF just merges into it then i'm going to miss talking to all you guys on here daily.
- Simon Wicks
I am not going anywhere until FB breaks this wonderful place
- Ryan
Same thing happened when Yahoo bought Flickr. Will be interesting to see how many actually leave.
- Mike Doeff
My immediate reaction was Facebook will push ads onto their users. I think FriendFeed could be seriously screwed up with live moving ads, so that's hopefully out of the picture from a purely usability view. Friendfeed is all about realtime web information. I then wonder how in that case will the monetise the relationship. My guess? Facebook will show live conversations and hopefully they will rip out the poor IM implementation in Facebook. The purchase may be nothing more sinister, I hope...
- Mark Aitken
Same here. Not Good.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Apple will address MacBook Pro hard drive issue - http://www.tuaw.com/2009...
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So yeah, we can squash that little debate about FriendFeed going mainstream. Done.
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Even if it isn't yet, it will be. Discussion = over.
- Shane Adams
What have we become?
- Xinchro
I wonder if they roll it together or keep them separate.
- Mark Rummler
As the Offspring would say, "You gotta keep 'em separated"
- Xinchro
Facebook Just Bought FriendFeed - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Mathew™ one of a kind, Mac Sharp, Kol Tregaskes and 3 other people liked this
old news
- Vonn Carbon
The War is on!! This is clearly a move to step up Facebook's game in it's war with Twitter to lead the real-time web.
- camhunt
Even been punched in the face? Really hard? Yeah.
Joe Silence is not dead, EricaJoy, Carmen and 16 other people liked this
I feel like I've been sucker punched by a famous hooker.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I've been hit in the head with a baseball bat. Probably feels like the same thing. :)
- Carol Levesque
Apple hate is the new black
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t-shirts with this on it in 3... 2... 1...
- vijay
I'm pretty sure it's the old black...I've been hating on them since they became irrelevant in 1991.
- Alex Scoble
Nope. Check the web. "I"m quitting the iPhone" "13 reasons why Apple stole my dog's happiness" ... yeah, the cool kids club is shifting
- Bwana ☠
I could care less, I use what works
- Bwana ☠
My Apple hate is rooted in such purity mine's all white. :D
- jcunwired
hasn't it always been "support the underdog" theme?
- vijay
whose bandwagon do I get to jump on next? =P
- vijay
Google!
- Bwana ☠
already on that one! lol!
- vijay
Um, um... Microsoft! Bing! Windows 7! RAWR
- Bwana ☠
BALLMER RULES ALL.
- vijay
I should make a Zazzle T-shirt: "Apple <3 is so 2008"
- Bwana ☠
Still love my Macs
- Robert Burgin
"Apple <3 is so 1989"
- Alex Scoble
Funny Alex, I hated Apple in 1989
- Bwana ☠
That's back when they were relevant to the industry. :)
- Alex Scoble
What does that have to do with Less than Three ? :)
- Bwana ☠
Don't you have an iPhone Bwana?
- Robert Burgin
It's not about love or hate, it's about what works best to fulfill your computing needs and desires. That said, brand loyalists of any variety are simply morons.
- Adrian
I didn't even know about apple until 2005. Ha! And I'm not kidding. I used to argue for the windows side with my business partner, who had just come back from dubai with a MBP. :D
- vijay
Yes, I have an iPhone
- Bwana ☠
All it is, is a computer running OSX that fits in your pocket and passes as a phone
- Robert Burgin
I don't hate them. I am frustrated with the google crap right now, but I am still hoping they will step up.
- Martha
I just don't understand the Hate they have been doing the same thing for years but bar one app from the app store and all of a sudden everyone acts like they are doing something different. Nothing different and I truly believe this is due more to AT&T than apple and may turn into a good thing meaning more than one carrier gets the iphone
- Robert Burgin
Where is this hate? 1 slightly non-genuflecting article is a deluge of hate? Let's have a race to see who can collect 10 articles licking apple's or MS's taint first.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, I'd agree with that, but there are plenty of folks who are suddenly stating they are not buying another Mac with great fanfare
- Bwana ☠
Calacanis and even Scoble are leading the charge
- Bwana ☠
+Adrian
- Rodfather
Who is it that wrote the article, that this is actually Steve Jobs (crosses himself thrice)' plan. To make the app store such a giant pile of suck and broken, that people do what they were supposed to do, and start writing their apps for the browser already. This is why Safari mobile is so far down the HTML5 path.
- Matthew DeVries
I always just stared jaw dropped at people who'd say "The app store is so brilliant and an amazing experience, it's what really put the iPhone on the map"
- Matthew DeVries
Yeah, we're not allowed to like the app store :)
- Bwana ☠
You're "allowed" to, but you're also "allowed" to like a proctology exam.
- Matthew DeVries
App store is a complete failure. This is why Android, Symbian, and Blackberry and doing the same :)
- Bwana ☠
I don't have an iPhone and I hate the fact that Apple went with an exclusive deal with AT&T who I will not use but didn't stop me from keeping my macs
- Robert Burgin
None of them are doing the same thing Bwana.
- Matthew DeVries
The app store is a great idea, Apple's way of doing it, however, is controversal
- Bwana ☠
Android Marketplace?
- Bwana ☠
Write me an app Bwana, and see how quick you get it into Android Market
- Matthew DeVries
It's still an App store
- Bwana ☠
A stupid app. An app with no purpose
- Matthew DeVries
I love the App Store. It actually filled with Apps
- Rodfather
Who did that before Apple?
- Bwana ☠
Homerun by Bwana! :D
- vijay
The App Store is a hook. I sold 3 iPhones at a UPS store with it.
- Bwana ☠
Ugg's sabretooth tiger jaw emporium in pangea?
- Matthew DeVries
Hey man, your deep seeded hate for Apple doesn't change the fact that they did something right with the App store :) Even with all the controversy surrounding it, it changed things.
- Bwana ☠
The App store is not a place to find things for your phone, it's a place to find what apple wants you to have, though you already paid a metric ass load for all that silicon.
- Matthew DeVries
Wow, you do see Apple hate where there isn't any. Hence the thread title I guess.
- Matthew DeVries
You've admitted in other threads ..don't even try it :)
- Bwana ☠
And? Where did I say anything about it here? o.O
- Matthew DeVries
You slanted things, to "who innovated" refusing to see that what you think is a good thing, isn't.
- Matthew DeVries
LOL, you're a trip
- Bwana ☠
And either way, 1 weekend of slightly negative press, and you're declaring a hate storm. You can critique a company without hating it.
- Matthew DeVries
You win the internet. We all hate Apple. Go apply for your bailout money.
- Matthew DeVries
Apples "issues" with the app store really only piss off the geeks, the general consumer didnt even know apps were available for win mo phones for years. The app stores innovation is bringing this all to the consumer level, and most of the recent apple hate is not even registered by the normal consumer.
- Jordan Patterson
Man Bwana what did you do to piss this guy off I have never read a thread from him and I can see the Apple hate lol
- Robert Burgin
Exactly Jordan. There isn't Apple hate. There was a couple negative articles.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert - He loves to hate Apple. It's fun to watch.
- Bwana ☠
And if you looked at my gdgt profile, you'd see I have just as many apple products in my pocket right now as anything.
- Matthew DeVries
And if you looked at what company has got the most money from me in the last year, who would it be? Apple.
- Matthew DeVries
But if that's hate, Apple should be thrilled that we hate them.
- Matthew DeVries
lol go Matt go
- Robert Burgin
You can own and love Apple, and STILL critique them. It's not a damn cult.
- Matthew DeVries
It's a cult. They wear creepy black shirts and call themselves Genius'.
- Rodfather
"I'm anti mac, so I can never tell if my perceptions are truth or my anti-koolaid" - Matthew DeVries
- Bwana ☠
LOL now thats funny
- Robert Burgin
Yet, I've spent $500 on them this year....hmmmmmm
- Matthew DeVries
And $1000 the year before
- Matthew DeVries
And my original statement has little to do with my thoughts on the app store. :)
- Bwana ☠
But yeah, total hate.
- Matthew DeVries
Hey you said it, not me
- Bwana ☠
Then why are calling me up as a hater for critiquing the app store?
- Matthew DeVries
Because you said you were?
- Bwana ☠
I did not.
- Matthew DeVries
Then I apologize, I read your statements as you were anti-Mac
- Bwana ☠
I've always loved the hardware, even the software, but I "HATE" the closedness, and the lock down mentality, and that I can't make any of my Mac gear work together without going full Mac.
- Matthew DeVries
And I actually do believe in that blogger (I can't remember his name) that I paraphrased above, that Steve Jobs made knew months ago, that he could force devs back to the browser (with a Google Voice-like move), where he wants them.
- Matthew DeVries
But I still think that the Apple closedness is a large ingredient in what makes them so great, its a fine edged sword.
- Jordan Patterson
I have 3 macs and 5 pc's and they all work perfect together
- Robert Burgin
For the past month, I've seen quite a few "I'm leaving Apple" or "As of Windows 7, I'm going PC" or "Thanks Apple/AT&T, I'm getting a Palm/G1" articles. It's not just 1 or 2, it's a growing trend. That was the reason for my original statement. If you disagree, that's fine and you may well be right, I just go by what I see.
- Bwana ☠
And my context is social media/blogging
- Bwana ☠
I use what works, so don't lump me into the Apple fanboys who can't see any wrong. I know Apple is making a lot of mistakes, but I also recognize they are doing some things right.
- Bwana ☠
I am bucking the trend then, being a new OS X convert. (though I've never been a Windows fan)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I was just looking at the ratio of good noise to bad noise, and even with the bad articles of the last 2 weeks, Apples good noise to bad noise ratio is still much better than any other companies.......maybe google approaches.
- Matthew DeVries
I haven't seen much "good noise" lately. That could very well be due to my RSS list.
- Bwana ☠
I've seen it to. The negative noise is growing on the web. But the real world still likes the products. Me? I can't stand the mentality of some users, but Fanboys are the same on any platform. Religious zealots and tech terrorists.
- Paul Puri
The last positive article I remember is a rumor about a new product... re: new iTunes/Blu-ray
- Bwana ☠
Bwana, aren't all the positive articles about apple just rumors and speculation about future products? That, or a review of a new product.
- Paul Puri
If you look in the spaces where there is no competition? All the things OS X Ocelot has where Windows has tetris and calculator, (garage band, that picture browsing/sorting app) the love still flows
- Matthew DeVries
Paul - in my world, yup. Rumors and speculation....and Steve Jobs stalking.
- Bwana ☠
That reminds me, I haven't peeked through Steve's windows the last few minutes.
- Paul Puri
Put me in the non-hater camp. Sometimes I really dislike the group-think that happens in this echo chamber.
- Mike Doeff
I have theories in mind... (perhaps I should have blogged all this), but some of it has to do with Microsoft's latest marketing push...it's working.
- Bwana ☠
And the popularity of cloud computing.... OS is becoming less of a factor for tech heads
- Bwana ☠
I'll stop hating Apple when their EULA allows me to legally install their OS on my Dell.
- April Russo (app103)
It always feels like I am back on the playground with the apple vs pc debate my os is better than yours no my os can beat up your os nanana booboo lol Amazing that one subject can turn clearly intelligent people into 12 year olds back on the playground (yes I include myself in that lol)
- Robert Burgin
I don't hate the company. They have first rate products. It's their mentality and closed mindsets that irks me. Not to mention the barrier to entry. If the product is so great, which it is, should it not be shared with a larger segment of the population? Apple can't handle the average user. They would break under that strain.
- Paul Puri
I can deal with closed mindsets, I'm used to it. With choice, I know I can always go Linux/OSS if need be. The thing that gets on my nerves with Apple is communication. Some people love the secrecy and mysterious nature of what's coming next, but when it comes to software/hardware problems and issues, it drives me insane. It's a deafening silence.
- Bwana ☠
Especially when it comes to security. I literally want to punch someone at Apple for being so quiet
- Bwana ☠
Well I am a Huge Mac Fanboy but I also love Windows I work for a large insurance company in the IT Department and they keep me in a job lmfao I say that sitting in my house in front of 2 macs and 2 pc's lol
- Robert Burgin
Another company I used to deal with, Digidesign, used to have the whole super secret mentality about their products. Sales eventually began to slide because there was nothing to look forward to. And the product was such a high dollar value that people got angry finding out a week later that the product they just bought is obsolete because a new one was released. They started making lower priced products and marketing their products ahead of time to drum up excitement. They did much better that way.
- Paul Puri
I've hated Apple since way before it was cool :P
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I can't focus. What was I doing before that announcement...
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we have just been nuked
- vijay
We were: We are all minions of Facebook, at the mercy of Microsoft's 15% stake......
- Roberto Bonini
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Bwana ☠
N00000000000!!!!!!!!!
- vijay
Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full.
- Josh Haley
yeah it seems the general consensus is it's bad thing - but can't be too quick to prejudge... things may work out ok... be hopeful :)
- Nathan Chase
Rumor: Two new playable races in next World of Warcraft expansion - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
Fwd: BOOM Facebook Acquires FriendFeed http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/parisle...)
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First playable Halo 3: ODST appearing at MLG Dallas - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
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