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Bwana ☠
Now that FF supports identi.ca and Plurk, I may need to rethink my ping.fm strate(r)gy
I have my top men working on a stragedy (my favorite misspelling of the word) for me right now. - Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks to Ping.fm and all these AIR apps, I have no need for browsers! - Outsanity & Kate + Hate
I am pondering the same thing. Ping.fm is quite useful but the duplicates in FF would become a bother. Maybe a filter in FF that checks whether the messages are the same and groups them? Something like "shared from 2 more sources". - Andrés David Aparicio from twhirl
Some people more likely removed other sources like Pownce, Twitter, ect and just have FriendFeed show via Ping only. I'm still waiting on an Ping.fm AIR app. - Outsanity & Kate + Hate
Yeah, my current setup has removed all status notifications and use ping.fm to post a message to FF. But the pretty identi.ca and Plurk icons make me jealous inside. - Bwana ☠
@Outsanity I don't think that works as a long term solution. After a common update from ping.fm, each service may spawn different threads with different people and I'd like my service-specific updates show up in FF without encumbering it with duplicates. - Andrés David Aparicio from twhirl
Maybe FriendFeed is working on de-duplicating and all our problems will go away. Aleast I hope they are.. - Aaron Myers
I don't think this is an issue that FriendFeed should be messing with directly. I, like Bwana, am also jealous of the little icons for having the service native. There must be a method to get the best of both worlds... - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I'm thinking about taking the Louis Gray advice and let the user worry about duplicates and just bring everything in - Bwana ☠
Bwana, I think it's the way to go for now. I don't have any problem hiding your Plurk, identica, etc. statuses (and believe me, I will hide them!) but I don't want to hide your blog posts and this separation by FriendFeed allows that. Still, while I have no problem hiding various services, and don't find it difficult, I believe the mainstream user will be absolutely overwhelmed by the approach. FriendFeed will have to figure something else out ultimately. - Robert Seidman
I know that SocialThing! handles duplications so I know it can be done but I think ultimately Louis might be right and I've said it many times myself: let the subscriber shape the noise. - Akiva Moskovitz
I don't mind double posts. - Outsanity & Kate + Hate
SocialThing seems like Lifestream.fm a little to me - Outsanity & Kate + Hate
@Outsanity Didn't SocialThing come first? - Aaron Myers
I think SocialThing! predates Lifestream. It broke wild at the same time FriendFeed did (i.e., Techcrunched). - Akiva Moskovitz
I'm not sure. I'm just now learning of SoTh. Looks interesting tho - Outsanity & Kate + Hate
My problem is that, I don't want anyone to have to hide either service due to duplicates. There may very well be different conversations going on on either service around my updates. Everything is not a duplicate. This is where I'm torn. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Rahsheen, they can do what I currently do with Twitter: hide them all unless they have likes or comments. I read tweets at Twitter (and dents at identi.ca) and then see any FriendFeed conversations here with very little overlap. - Akiva Moskovitz
Rahsheen, the question becomes what's more important: sharing to the various services or consolidating the ensuing conversation that occurs on FriendFeed? As FriendFeed is currently designed you don't get to say "both". Understanding that it's not currently ideal, I'd pick the one that's most important to *you*. - Robert Seidman
Ah! I didn't think of that. Thanks, Akiva. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
If you can make FriendFeed better for one of us, you're making FriendFeed better for all of us. - Akiva Moskovitz
In the end, Akiva's strategy didn't work for me as a consumer of the data. What would fix it for me is separating "likes" from comments (show me twitter *only* if they have comments, not if they have either). The nature of the beast is that friends will like their friends tweets (often in bulk) and I see lottttttts of stuff I don't want to see so I had to hide them all. The highly commented tweets still show up in "best of", so I feel like I'm covered mostly. - Robert Seidman
That is also true, Robert. I ran into that yesterday...a lot. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Robert, that's a good point. The more granularity we have, the better the experience becomes. - Akiva Moskovitz
Long live ping.fm - adolfo foronda
I just added Plurk and identi.ca to FF and was thinking about the same issue. On one hand, I want to update the people who are not on FF and service exclusive. At the same time, you don't want to annoy people with duplicates. - Aram Zucker-Scharff from twhirl
I ended up removing my twitter feed from ff so that there wouldn't be repeats as well as my boring tweets showing up in my feed. I use ping.fm to post to ff, twitter, and identi.ca at the same time when I have something I want my ff subscribers to see as well as twitter followers. - Dennis Jackson
I think you have to be careful when it comes to defining noise. I am sometimes grateful that the same someones post appears more then once on different networks since it's alerted me to news I have found valuable. One of the values of Friendfeed is the comment portion. It causes posts to reappear several times. so if I miss something the first or second time I may see it the second or third time because commenters have kept the post alive. Simply one persons noise may just be another persons news. Not all duplication is bad. - Paul from twhirl
You Bwana, are a VERY wise man - Mona Nomura
@Bwana See http://friendfeed.com/e... The problem with letting me decide how to handle dupes in FF is that you lose control over which network is more important to you because I'm going to hide all except one of the sites you cross post to and will probably miss non-cross posted updates. Do you have a preference or should I do a enny-meany-miny-mo? - Hao Chen
Hao, I generally let users decide which they want to see. I really don't have a preference per se. It can vary depending on what's going on. For now, you can just hide my status updates only if they have comments or likes. Since I'm using ping.fm for crossposts, you can hide everything except FriendFeed messages. - Bwana ☠