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Announcing FF To Go (a mobile FriendFeed) http://www.fftogo.com/ Read more from @louisgray here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Marcos Marado, Atul Arora, Bruce Lewis and 16 other people liked this
Works like a charm on IE/WM5. Well done!
- Thomas Brox Røst
You did it it again! You are on fire!
- Phil G
Many. many thanks. I am glad to be able to update my mobile FF rant. Now there IS a better way :)
- Colin Walker
Bump for the good times
- Jesse Stay
Digging deep, Krynsky. Nice
- Josh Haley
Krynsky?
- Jesse Stay
I'm here.
- Mark Krynsky
Of note, this was well before Ben joined FF.
- Louis Gray
Josh...that's what she said....
- Mark Krynsky
I was just about to write "wow this is *old*" but really it wasn't that long ago. A lot has happened in the last 1.5 years
- Benjamin Golub
You can say that again. 1 month on the web = 7 months IRL
- Jorge Escobar
Love it!
- Kevin Fox
Oh snap, that was Jesse. Ooops! Thanks Jesse! And all props to B-GLOB!
- Josh Haley
Someone Needs To Stop Tripping Over The Power Cord At Rackspace - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Kim Landwehr, Anthony Citrano and 4 other people liked this
SRSLY
- Bwana ☠
My experience is it gets tripped over pretty much every week, mostly on a Monday or Tuesday. DFW is effectively down right now, at least for the cluster my sites are on. It is becoming every week like clockwork, except in a far from positive way.
- Patrick Jordan
Talk about Facebook buying FriendFeed here (on FriendFeed, of course):
HealingBrush, Chris Martin, lolise and 164 other people liked this
I'm not sure what it means, but I hope the goodness of Friendfeed stays intact.
- Tom Landini
I guess Facebook just got real time search engine!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What do facebook get out of it?
- Ruchit Garg
Fact or fiction?
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
I haven't seen likes and comments stream real-time this fast before.
- ydfeed
It depends on who lays claim to our posted and aggregated material.
- jcunwired
it could work. if Friendfeed completely replaces Facebook
- Edgar Rodríguez
I think it's a brilliant move, although bringing this into the Facebook walled garden would ruin it.
- Derek Shanahan
how much for?
- Ruchit Garg
Is it true Robert?
- Kevin Whalen
BAD 'n SAD :((
- sid 【ツ】
Great match to take on the Twitter machine.
- Ryan Cummins
what is next..facebook killing twitter integration...SCORE....??
- Denis
++Edgar
- Ryan
Good for Facebook, BAD for us. NOOOOOOOOOOOO
- Nir Ben Yona
Presumably a technology acquisition then, Facebook is buying the team and the tech.
- DGentry
I don't like it
- Jason Hargrove
Bad news, if true.
- LogEx
Just because Facebook bought Friendfeed, doesn't necessarily mean they will do anything with the service. At least maybe not right away. People need to chill out.
- Alex Knight
hope it doesn't mess w/ twitter integration
- Ken Seto
makes a lot of sense - f.b. now has a power house of real-time all-stars. fixes many of the feature 'wish' lists for f.b. - actually a major positive sign for innovation. congrats to the F.F. team.
- michael sean wright
How can i shut down my ff account?
- Fotis Alexandrou
I need a few hours and possibly large amounts of chocolate
- Bwana ☠
If you are right, that "Facebook just got real time search engine", that is good - as FB really, really needed it for a long time.
- Bora Zivkovic
:(
- Sinem Co
yes, this is fast. Reminds me of a few hours ago when I was on Freenode
- Ian Tindale
There goes your data.
- Jason Hargrove
This will probably be bad. like all purchases, it will be an "afterthought" and never be fully allowed to develop and flourish.
- Ryan Jones
Man this is really SUCKS!! :((( we all know Facebook strategies on the web :(( Whey will drive FriendFeed to the helll and I'm pretty sure of this :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( BAD SUCKS SAD :(((
- FFTornado
It almost seemed inevitable since Facebook has been copying so much of Friendfeed in recent months. It's good for the founders of FF and may benefit those of us who use both on a regular basis. Maybe they'll just leave FF alone?
- Kenley Neufeld
Funny thing is, if you posted about this on Facebook, 99.9999% of it's users would go "huh, what's FriendFeed anyway?"
- Richard Matthias
someone tell me what they will do with it? Nothing maybe? Kill it, maybe?
- Francine Hardaway
Wonder how they'll integrate, separate services with more interaction or FF swallowed by Facebook.
- Steven Cains
Buy as is use it's IP and close it down or run as separate business? Either way, didn't see that coming.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
It was bound to go down. Like we used to say on the block shootin' dice "Big Bank Take Little Bank"
- professor daddyo
I do, however, wish tha tmore sites would implement this commenting engine.
- Ryan Jones
Fotis: haha, wait too long, and you'll never be able to close your FF account ;)
- Jason Hargrove
not believing it until another source confirms...
- Benton
Congrats to the friendfeed team. Worried about the future though.
- Andy Roth
Whats FriendFeed anyways?
- Marco Horta
so that Facebook can maybe copyright the "Like" button? lol
- Than R
How are we going to abbreviate it now? FBFF? FFFB? F^3B ?
- Harry Wolff
I receive the breaking news via BNO News at this moment: Facebook acquires FriedFeed...
- Torsten Eckert
haha you're right Richard
- Ken Seto
I am stuck in Texas and have not confirmed myself.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wow
- Rodfather
OMG.
- Nathan Chase
maybe they can implement threads?
- Jeremy Toeman
It looks like a defensive move. I think it's better fro FB to acquire FF than incorporating twitter functionalities in their status feature.
- Pablo Paniagua
double wow.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Friendbook? Facefeed?
- Jeff Harbert
If it's true, I suspect FriendFeed as we know it will be gone, but Facebook will be greatly improved.
- Costa Walcott
bah. i will go do something else. this news isn't helping
- Edgar Rodríguez
trying to look on the bright side - maybe we'll get those iPhone/Blackberry apps for better access to FriendFeed
- Stuart Miniman
But if it isn't true we would have heard by now.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
apprehensive about this
- Liz Polay-Wettengel
Official: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Brandon Titus
I want to hear the $$$ number
- moo yu
Congrats to ff team...but how does this work? I have 2 different accounts...and I like it that way...I don't want to share/spam my friends on facebook with what I have here...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@robert no we wouldnt have
- Jeremy Toeman
It's official: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Costa Walcott
Originally posted this to your other FF/FB post before you astarted this one: I don't see the point of Facebook acquiring FriendFeed. They are pretty much identical services (well, FF represents just the News Feed portion of Facebook) I don't see how they can incorporate FriendFeed into Facebook. If they really did buy it, then I see this as them going for programming talent more so...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
From FF blog http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Tom Landini
I'm hoping this improves Facebook (just like everyone else). Facebook has gotten horrible stale for me of late.
- Harry Wolff
This stream itself is the evidence of WHY Facebook bought FF.
- Steven Walling
What's looking shiny and new now? :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I've been needing a reason to get re-interested in Facebook, this could be it.
- JonInteractive
Friend management will need to be enhanced/overhauled. Otherwise, the noise will make the combined product unusable.
- Peter Ghosh
No! I am going to cry! I HATE FACEBOOK! I have a Facebook account, but FriendFeed is way better. Life is over! Apocalypse.
- Zachary TG
Seriously, how can i shut it down?
- Fotis Alexandrou
We'll have to wait for more details to see exactly what Facebook is planning to do with FF.
- 321
Bodes badly for FriendFeed. --rj
- Roger Jennings
I think this is more of a "send the friendfeed traffic to facebook" than any kind of technical leverage. My biggest concern here: in order to exchange dialogue with people on facebook I need to be friends with them vs. being able to do it on friendfeed without having to friend them up. I find this valuable as there may be a topic or 5 that I want to engage with user "X" on, but I don't...
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- Erik Boles
I am disappointed by this news... I don't like Facebook at all... And I'm afraid they will just kill FriendFeed with their awful cluttered interface...
- Her Lindsay-ness
It depends on how they integrate it. Did they buy it for the search engine, or did they buy it as a potential for extending the reach of Facebook into real time conversations? It's all about the life stream now right? So probably Facebook's attempt to stake a claim there.
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
bad days are coming
- Ahmet Soyata
Fotis, why do you want to shut down our FF account?
- Alex Knight
This is bad news for Yahoo 360°. Oh wait, too late.
- Ian Tindale
Bad bad bad bad bad bad ::runs screaming down the hall::
- mary
Crap!
- Zachary TG
This is disgusting.
- Zachary TG
First of all, I love the name "Facefeed." ROFL Second, this is business boys. Happens all the time. Why do you think innovation keeps happening. FB will integrate or kill off FF, and something else will happen. It's a natural cycle.
- Francine Hardaway
For a second I thought it was a joke, but then I checked Friendfeed's Blog. http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009... Damn it.
- Alejandro
Nir Ben Yona +1
- Muge Cerman
Turmoil
- Ian Tindale
wondering if i should continue aggregating all my online activity in frienfeed now that facebook owns it!!
- Gtp19
I can't begin to process this right now. Too much work to focus on. Later when I read this 10,000 mile long thread and have a glass of Cab in hand.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Geeks and fb not a good mach
- thomas elton
from iPhone
We fear change
- Ian Tindale
Not feeling real good about this, hope fully Facebook will do right by the FF community, but I'm not holding my breath. Glad for the FF team though
- Kim Landwehr
Twitter dissed again.
- JonInteractive
So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter..
- Nick Halstead
if you look closely at FF the large majority of FF posts are twitter posts, so there was not that much original content on FF in the first place...
- Ingmar
Makes a lot of sense for Facebook. And we find this very healthy ^^
- twitscoop
People need to stop freaking out. The Facebook/Friendfeed buy out was just announced. Wait for details people.
- Alex Knight
It could be bad, it could be good. As long as Facebook doesn't try to port their functionality over, I'm fine with it being a financial acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
Crap, its official !
- Peter Dawson
This is really bad... a wonderful tool based on killer technology will go over into this mass market teeny poking culture. Bah!
- Markus Tressl
then again it is great for linking FB, TW, flickr and so on
- Ingmar
Here is the FF post on the acquisition: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Mrinal Desai
Great, why did I bother creating an account here? I could have held out.
- desinole
if this is true, for the love of god, please don't Facebook go and mess up FriendFeed as they have their own system, Facebook is a mess these days, Friendfeed is one of the 2.0 sites that actually has concentrated on doing a few things well, complete opposite to Facebook.
- Carl Grint
I suppose Friendfeed was considerably lacking in LOLcats.
- Ian Tindale
Cuz we all know that facebook doesn't respect user's privacy and you've got basically everything on ff, youtube, twitter, digg whatever you do
- Fotis Alexandrou
Paul Buckheit will now be a house husband:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Confirmed by FF http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- David Peacock
Smart for Facebook but I prefer Friendfeed the way it is.What, we'll be throwing rabbits next?
- Janet Fouts
FriendFeed listens to the community. Facebook doesn't. Not to mention they're ENTIRELY different communities.
- Adam Reyher
If they keep FriendFeed as a separate site, and still upgrade regularly, this is fine. If FriendFeed winds up in the dead pool, then it sucks.
- Steve Sill
If true, congrats to the FF Founders!
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
Maybe I should rediscover my Orkut account.
- Ian Tindale
I was just thinking how Friendfeed had stayed out of recent takeovers, mergers and hence cyber attacks. Will Friendfeed now be taken over by celebs and spammers too?
- Nils Geylen
Not sure why this news makes me nervous. Please tell me it's going to be ok Scoble...
- Lucas
FF has been FB's incubator for awhile.
- Peter Warnock
it's true damn!!!!
- Edgar Rodríguez
How can I spam on this thread please ? Any idea ?
- Toucouleur
Facebook has ZERO respect for users' wishes... Friendfeed is incompatible with that. Friendfeed will be going away. :( Their blog post says as much: "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally **for the time being**. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product"
- tollie williams
Quickest/Biggest thread ever
- Ian Tindale
Ideally, FB will leave FF to do the sweet innovating they are doing and just take the awesome features and put them into FB
- Ryan
This is the first time I've used Friendfeed in a year. Good move on their part.
- chantelle
How Much ? $$$ ;-)
- Jacopo Gio
I'm heading back to Jaiku where it's nice and quiet
- Ian Tindale
So, where do we migrate to now?
- Byron McCollum
FriendFeed functionality on Facebook would be nice. The reverse, not so much. They're trying to address two entirely separate purposes and as such, need to remain completely separate.
- Adam Reyher
back to the twitter
- emresezgin
I want numbers. how much did facebook pay?
- Zac Bowling
soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- johnny2009
Hum...let's see what happens.
- Chip Hanna
Stay here until FB does something dumb with FF
- Ryan
The rhetoric seems a bit too "Facebook will do what they want with us" and not "we will remain FF and continue forward". Seems as if FB went for the tech and we could lose FF as a seperate entity. Boo.
- Derek Shanahan
confirmed by facebook press release.
- Zac Bowling
Love 'em or hate 'em....Facebook made a phenomenal purchase.
- Kevin Pruett
I see a ton of Wall Spam. Facebook users just don't get it when you port your twitter updates over. There is too much for them to wrap their heads around. This will be a hard transition.
- Ryan Cummins
And I was REALLY getting fond of FriendFeed. From now on only downhill applicationwise?
- Bart
Not happy about this. I use Facebook, but don't like it. It reminds me of AOL from 10 years ago.
- David Sharpe
I agree that I don't want FB to mess up FF, but this will also give FF a higher profile and bring in many more users...which we may or may not like, judging by what happened on Twitter. I hope FF doesn't die off like Jaiku because I really think FF offers a more valuable and useful interface.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
One thing to consider is this: If we have "trusted" the FriendFeed people not to screw things up, hopefully we can trust them to make sure they're still in control in the terms of the acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
What's it going to be called? Failbook?
- Ian Tindale
Its going to be called Facebook.
- DGentry
I hope this is a joke.. Damn it, I dont like Facebook now there is nowhere to go... F***
- Jacque
I am trying to imagine how this will be a good thing for existing FF users. It feels so right and so wrong all at once!...Maybe at least my kids and wife will finally get what I've been ignoring them for over the past year.
- Thom Kennon
FeedFace
- Ian Tindale
Is that means we're going to see more extremist groups around, now that FB has acquired FF?
- Nir Ben Yona
so where do all the cool kids go now? we need another startup, stat!
- h1ro
I am afraid... what johnny2009 have said can really be the future... soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- Ahmed Mubbashir Khan
Damn,I've just"got friendfeed,and i love it.I definately don't like facebook.What does it mean for twitter?
- Paul Downing
Any investors want to predict the buyout price?
- Kevin Pruett
am gonna wait for google wave... coz in facebook, i cant access the complete stream for a month ago, the site goes down very often while browsing, and privacy issues galore!! congratulations for friendfeed but its jus me!!!
- Gtp19
Maybe we´re seeing here one of FriendFeeds biggest discusions ever. I´m sceptic about the future of FF as a standlone service...
- Torsten Eckert
What concerns me most is what happens to my friends here (and that I have to interact with my friends THERE). Will we have to be friends to interact in the same way we have the last couple of years?
- jcunwired
This is very good for FriendFeed as long as Facebook doesn't corrupt them. I would have preferred to see Google buy FF but I know with their focus on Wave I don't think it would have been a good fit. I like the Facebook platform, but they have done too many shady things in the past for me to trust them.
- Adam Teece
all of the conversation is happening on FriendFeed and Twitter - nothing on Facebook. Think we'd scare away Facebook if everyone starts having lots of conversations there - like on Scoble's fan page?
- Stuart Miniman
They can or don't have to fix FF's FB app now.
- ydfeed
Is Twitter going to buy Myspace?
- marcus bösch
Ha Stuart - great point *Facebookers take cover*
- Kimberle Kelly
That does it. I'm going back to usenet.
- Ian Tindale
What's next- Macy's buying Gimble's?
- Thom Kennon
Apple buys China
- Ian Tindale
what do you think Robert?
- courtney benson
All I can think of is now a lot of people can feel the pain the dedicated Pownce community felt, but at least you're not getting shut down, just yet.
- Mike Lewis
I'm not a big facebook user, but my gut feeling is that like twitter buying summize, it will mark the end of major innovations. I hope I'm wrong. But they should totally go with the facefeed mashup name.
- motownmutt
I dont see any potential for competition with twitter FB and Twitter serve different purposes as does FriendFeed
- iluvblackwomen
Sorry but renaming Facebook to 'Facefeed' is utterly stupid.
- Alex Knight
It'll be called ScobleFeed
- Ian Tindale
does making google reader more social has anything to do with this buyout??!
- Gtp19
yeah this was good for facebook. bad for anyone who liked friendfeed.
- Liz
FriendFeed is very good, a better way to use Twitter & etc. Knowing this, I still rarely use FF. Not going to start using Facebook more.
- Nicole
Actually, this could be death for Twitter when you think about it. The people I know who are in FB are not likely to add TWO more nets to their lifestream. FriendFeed makes more sense for them. Maybe Twitter just stays as the dumb pipe it's become for many of us here.
- Thom Kennon
Echoing what others have said - My guess: Facebook will get better, Friendfeed will get worse, Twitter will matter a lot less.
- Matthew Blaisdell
Good for FB UI and search, questionable for the FF community and its independent spirit ...
- Bo Stern
last comment 2 hours ago on FF by Paul Buchheit, FF CEO, was just " :)" http://friendfeed.com/paul #friendbook
- Jacopo Gio
The main reason why I came to FF was because when I tried to treat FB the same as FF, i was talking to a wall. At least people interact here. At FB, it's all about the cheesy games/apps.
- Matthew Horton
from iPhone
Just like most acquisitions, it could be good and it could be bad. I trust that FriendFeed will live on as FriendFeed, only sharing their tech with Facebook. Possibly more integration between the two sites. If you were FF/FB, what would you do?
- Nick Humphries
Twitter, Friendfeed and Facebook are three entirely different animals. Facebook eats Friendfeed and poops out little bits of content that once belonged to us. Twitter continues to thrive as the broadcast conversation-wannabe that it always was.
- jcunwired
Nick - think again. Its going to go away - read the tea leaves in this statement: "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" - Bret Taylor in this post https://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- jcunwired
Please no. I don't like FaceBook...
- Svartling
Facebook must want real time soc-net search badly...
- martin smith
The biggest thing here, at least within the Twitter context, is that this merger will combine 'verified' identity (in terms of Facebook user ID being slightly more 'real' than Twitter) with real time status updates.
- Dan Patterson
I'm looking forward to what this brings to Facebook. I have enjoyed both networks but wondered when FriendFeed/Facebook would face-off and/or be absorbed by the other. I think FriendFeed's tech will improve the Facebook experience.
- Jacob Sloan
FriendFeed + Twitter = disruptive. FriendFeed + Facebook = one more app for FB . Facebookers dont know the power of FriendFeed. I agree with : "" So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter.. - Nick Halstead ""
- Rocky
Most likely scenario is Facebook assimilates the FriendFeed guys, has them work on improving Facebook newsfeed/realtime/status, and lets FriendFeed die a slow unmaintained death.
- Richard Akerman
Well, my friends on FB doesn't give a damn about sharing links, news, pics, vids etc. So I'm not sure how I will use FB+FF now. I don't think FriendFeed will exist, just implemented in Facebook. The name FriendFeed will die. And: on FB you don't want the whole world to see everything you're doing, just your friends. And it will stay this way. So the question is: Who will build the new FriendFeed?
- Patrik Johansson
Do this mean, by the way, that we (the FriendFeed users) should start to connect with each other on FB? How will they like that? People who get's 2-3 maybe 4000 connections?
- Patrik Johansson
Robert, it means all the time you invested building friends lists and updates there will go to Facebook :-)
- Loic Le Meur
could someone start to develop a Frienfeed clon , please ? ASAP !
- Rocky
Seems bloody terrible from this users perspective. Good for Friendfeed the company though.
- Quasar
Given Facebook's past, this could be really bad. Given FriendFeed's past, this could be really good. No real way to speculate without talking to the FF crew.
- xero
+3273 Quasar! (one for each of my Likes, already on a death march)
- jcunwired
Robert, do you know if Facebook is going to put on limits here at FF??? Oh crikey... so much for our citizen journalism here.... Admittedly I am bummed. Uber bummed.
- Arleen Anderson
EndFeed.
- Alex Schleber
your blog is the most important thing you can own on the web. these sites can come and go. it's a great social point but true friends you've made here you talk outside of ff, right?
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
It's a good time to sell to Facebook, cause Google Wave is imminent and is going to destroy all of Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed. I think FriendFeed employees might even go back to Google eventually as soon as their contracts with Facebook are up.
- Charbax
Robert - wow. just wow I am stunned. Sorta sad actually. I love FF innovation and don't want to see that stop !!!!!
- Susan Beebe
(RE: Your tweet earlier) When you say the minor league team going to the majors, I don't always feel that this is a positive thing. As in this case, it's like Ferrari being acquired by Ford. I don't think I like this acquisition.
- Richard Merritt
the free ride couldn't last forever. I know it sucks that things will change, but they've got a lot more sense than Twitter has about these things..
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
You must all assimilate to the new FaceFeed
- Jonathan.Rivera
From what I'm gathering, this acquisition is more about FB acquiring the talented engineers of FF than it is about the FF software itself. A smart play by FB. Unfortunate for us that value FF. I personally feel that FB is just slowly becoming the new Myspace. Which I don't think I need to explain how lame that is.
- Richard Merritt
According to WSJ — FB paid $50 million — a mix of cash and stocks. http://bit.ly/SVTA5
- Richard Merritt
If you ignore all the crappy apps and just comment and post photos, your main feed on Facebook is fundamentally a pretty similar experience to FriendFeed - people post stuff, people comment on it. That is, at-least, the way my network tends to use Facebook. The main difference is that Facebook defaults to being very closed and private while FriendFeed defaults to being very open and...
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- Edward Coffey
edward - pretty much. it's FF for the layman. remember back in the day they used to have forums too?
- Terry O'Fee
I think it helps Facebook a lot since now it will have real time news feed. Their old one was pretty lame. It also helps FF since klutzs might have heard of it but never would have joined without such a big announcement.
- PJ Edwards
friendfeed is very cliquey. you have your group of people who usually gather round for conversations. now imagine some of this friendfeed stuff in facebook. done right it will help them a lot.
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
I don't think I am liking this but FB does need to add the "edit" feature like on here.
- Marika Dye
FriendFeed is Facebooks Summize. It’s All About Search. http://bit.ly/11ZW6l
- paul mooney
Thinking Out Loud: Echo issues during a high profile tech show http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
FF acquisition is expected. But, as a user, I would be bumned, if FF would become a feature of FB. As, I tend to use Twitter as my social network and not FB.
- Vasu Srinivasan
It doesn't make much sense talking about 'Facefeed" and 'Friendbook'... Facebook simply bought a cool 12-people company called Friendfeed for its great search technology paying 15M plus some shares, which is really very cheap in this context, given the value of FF's technology (as it is perceived by us). They are also hiring the talented FF team, which makes the deal even more interesting for FB. Probably there are also some deeper hidden motives and implications that I am not able to get.
- Liviu Barbat
I would love it if Facebook integrated the FriendFeed features. I would love it if Facebook had FriendFeed's flexibility with Facebook's privacy control. It sucks that the world may lose FriendFeed, but it is great the Facebook will likely get better.
- Andrew
Andrew, Facebook will get better - over time. There won't be any Vulcan website meld of FB and FF overnight.
- Bill Sodeman
thank god someone understands that, andrew. it's like "i liked this band better before they went to a major label!" ;)
- Terry O'Fee
Bill - But we can dream, can't we? :) I mean, what I love about Facebook is that I'm interacting with my friends as my friends, not as usernames and avatars. But I hate their bookmarklet, the weird delays when I post anything, the comment system, and I hate the Photo gallery tech. I love the FriendFeed community, but would love bringing the FriendFeed technology over to Facebook even more. If only Facebook could buy Flickr next...
- Andrew
as long as fb start thinking in creative commons terms... one day ..
- Terry O'Fee
they are both great services I think will be a good thing
- Logan Lindquist
oh NO! I don't spend much time at FB (everybody there's too busy playing stupid games, at least in my little network), and besides it's more private unlike FF. And now they've gone and bought FF? And I just joined! I guess I won't be around here for long, since FF won't...
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't like it...
- Harry Mahardhika
No mention of Yahoo. Totally irrelevant these days. Sad.
- Scott Schnaars
This deal makes sense! Now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask!
- Garin Kilpatrick
One of my facebook accounts got closed up. Into this account I fed my friendfeed. And into friendfeed I fed for example my socialmedian shares, diggs, stumbles etc.
- Wilhelm Bauer
Time for the next generation app. *Taps foot impatiently for Google Wave*
- Karen Masullo
I don't think it's about getting Friendfeed it's self; but having the developers and the information about real-time search.
- Chris Martin
Friendfeed data export: http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... iterating start=100, 200, up to 3000
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It's not pretteh but mah data. I haz it.
- Andrew Smith
Slow process and probably not viable for power users. Hopefully a tool comes soon.
- Andrew Smith
Oh and you can get your subscriptions here: (insert your username) http://friendfeed-api.com/v2...
- Andrew Smith
And subscribers http://friendfeed-api.com/v2...
- Andrew Smith
WIN
- vijay
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LOL!!
- Bwana ☠
There goes the neighborhood.
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No need to ask what you are referring to.....
- Jeff P. Henderson
does that mean they now own the content on FF. Hikes!
- Valeria Maltoni
Ah crap
- Katie: Whelmed Overly
yes. is this Facebook going up Market or FF going down.
- Gilbert Harding
from BuddyFeed
pretty soon it'll be time for someone to start another FF-like service. This is BS. I really hope they don't delete ff.com and integrate it with facebook.
- Kevin Winn
Aw, I thought you were talking about Body Count's hit song
- Rodfather
SHIT AIN'T LIKE THAT!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Rodfather: 1UP for Body Count. I may still have that CD somewhere.
- Ha3rvey (ret ta go home)
just as i was caught up in reading the great conversation from robert scoble re: friendfeed...i come up for air and see this announcement. color me nervous for FriendFeed.
- Tobin Truog
Maybe I'm naive, but I'm not understanding how this news is either good or bad.
- Dave Roth
From a customer perspective, Dave, it's needless change that clouds the future of the service. And have you been on Facebook lately? They aren't exactly responsive to their customers, nor do they care much about privacy/content rights of their customers.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
also, you'd better delete any content (photos for instance) you posted in your feed that you don't want FB to own when they get their claws in.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Ugh...ugh.... ugh.... UGH... ugh..
- Bwana ☠
SERIOUSLY! Friendfeed will never be the same Alex.
- Jason Pollock
Dave, I think there is a problem with your axiom set. :p
- Neal Jansons
It's not a perfect metaphor.
- Dave Roth
just when I was starting to feel at home :(
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Well I guess this means I'm going to have to start spending time on Facebook. I don't really see anything else as compelling as FF on the horizon. I just logged into FB for the first time in about 3 weeks. I had 34 or so friend requests to approve and a ton of facebook email that I'm still wading through now. Sigh.
Mrsth, Ethan, Lisa L. Seifert and 30 other people liked this
I did the same thing. I prefer FF over FB and am interested to see what changes they have in store for us.
- Charl Pearce
I loathe Facebook
- Bwana ☠
I don't like Facebook either. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I loathe Facebook also, and now I am going to have to change the way my company pushes out upgrade information and interacts with clients.
- Travis Koger
I don't hate FB, but I don't like it that much either. But it does serve an entirely different purpose to me from FF.
- James Myatt
I use FB and FF for completely different things, I don't want them to be integrated.
- Kenton
I'm with you, James and Kenton... I use them for entirely different purposes. Wondering what the impact will be.
- Herb Hernandez
If I thought they would make FB more like FF I wouldn't be that bothered.
- Andrew Roche
I loathe them too. FF is much more to my liking.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I check in once or twice a week. It's useful and improving all the time. I couldn't imagine spending time there regularly right now! That might change as they change. Who knows?
- Michael Fidler
Thomas, Did I miss something? Did friendfeed get acquired by Facebook?
- Michael Fidler
Yep!
- Michael Fidler
I retract my first statement. I just logged on here today and your post was the first thing I saw. Brilliant move by Facebook. This fits my theory about what they are planning. WOW
- Michael Fidler
I have to say that I'm unfazed. Much as I tried to like FF, it just never really got to me. I'm fairly new at Facebook, but I'm also giving it a try.
- William Beem
I'm with Bwana & Kol. Thing I'm wondering- was the FF team jsut totally off the pulse of the community or was this mass exodus/dissatisfaction expected (and they didn't care?)
- anna sauce
well got through a bit more of the email. I feel bad responding to people 3 weeks late on stuff. Oh well. I should probably check in on Facebook more than I do. For a while I was doing it at least a few times a week. The thing is that FF as we know it is probably dead in the water. So you have to ask yourself if it makes a lot of sense to spend significant time here now knowing that...
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- Thomas Hawk
I will tell you one thing. I'm sure happy now that I stayed up that night to secure my thomashawk Facebook domain. http://www.facebook.com/thomash...
- Thomas Hawk
" You have 270 group invitations." sigh.
- Thomas Hawk
ok, had to press ignore on all 270 of those one by one. Next: "You have 91 Page suggestions." lovely.
- Thomas Hawk
I dont have as many as that Thomas, but it's something i have to do almost daily as well. If only there was a block all, would make so much more sense. Maybe its a feature they will now implement just as we can 'hide all' over here.
- Simon Wicks
got all the page requests done, now I'm working on ignoring all of those crappy little apps and I get this: No Network Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/reqs.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet. sigh. I thought Facebook was supposed to be "fun."
- Thomas Hawk
Sounds like a cop out to me Thomas, if you really like FF and do not prefer FB, why waste your time learning FB? FF won't go away for a while, and there may just be an other shiny new service that pops up out of the wood work to take it's place in the future. There always is isn't there? A great big gaping hole of opportunity just opened up for some other service to fill.
- Jeff P. Henderson
As several others have pointed out, many people use FB & FF to do entirely different things. Many people do not want to mix their personal friends with their on line friends. Not sure how merging the two services would actually work. It would not work for me any more than if FF and Linkedin were to merge.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Facebook is closed and icky. Do not want.
- Lurking Grue
why invest significant time in FF going forward if it's going away.
- Thomas Hawk
I will tell you this, it is an absolute pain in the ass to have to ignore all these little app requests one by one by one. Why can't they just have a button that ignores them all?
- Thomas Hawk
I get immediate gratification out of FF, but personally I don't see any long term loss if I continue to participate utill the day it goes away.
- Jeff P. Henderson
The thing about Facebook is that "making users' lives easier" isn't necessarily a core value. There are lots of UI decisions that are so apparently hostile it makes me question Occam's Razor.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Thomas, as FF in definitely being integrated into FB in the long term I'd agree. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
What I mean by that is they are getting paid to deliver your eyeballs and clicks to various places so they may not always see it as being in their best interests to let you shape the flow however you see fit.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
FB: You have a pokemon request. Me: Block This Application FB: Something went wrong. We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can. You may be able to try again.
- Thomas Hawk
Thaaat's Facebook!
- Bwana ☠
My experience with FB is spending 6 minutes trying to NOT give it my gmail account. It just insisted on my webmail passwords or it wasn't going to continue. Not cool.
- Lurking Grue
FB: You have a pokeman adventure request (as opposed to just the regular old pokeman request I tried to block earlier). Me: click on the "Please Block My Friends' Pokemon Adventure Invitations :.( " FB: "Allowing Pokemon Adventure access will let it pull your profile information, photos, your friends' info, and other content that it requires to work. Allow or Cancel?" Me: I have no idea what i'm supposed to do to make the Pokemon people go away.
- Thomas Hawk
FB: "By proceeding, you are allowing Pokemon Adventure to access your information and you are agreeing to the Facebook Terms of Use in your use of Pokemon Adventure. By using Pokemon Adventure, you also agree to the Pokemon Adventure Terms of Service."
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, your experience has just convinced me to not use FB any more than I already do now, which is about once a month....
- Jeff P. Henderson
whew! Finally got all that crap cleaned out of facebook. That took me about an hour. What a waste.
- Thomas Hawk
Yeah, but next week there will be more of it Thomas, it keeps on coming and doesn't go away!
- Sally Church
I really hope there is some clarity about the future of the API http://ff.amplifeeder.com was going to hit some of the big blogs today (it is built entirely on Friendfeed) but we are not sure what to do now.
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For the time being we have no plans to stop http://friendfeed.com/ or the API.
- Benjamin Golub
I think we will be able ride off some of the publicity that is going around now. But I can tell that a lot of peoples reactions will be why bother, when fb will stop it soon (regardless of if the plans are to or not)
- Paul Kinlan
from email
Breaking News: FFundercats acquire the Random Time Lords!
Alfredo, Tyson Key, WorldofHiglet and 27 other people liked this
LOL!!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
The deal for $9.37 plus all of Perez's musicals on DVD, was finalized today.
- Josh Haley
Hah!
- Bwana ☠
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
LMAO!!!!!
- Ladybug Heather
I needed this in a big way. THANK you!
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
You forgot to mention how you and I would be working on a DUNE/DOCTOR WHO crossover, Josh.
- Steven Perez
Sounds spicy
- Geoff Schultz
XEXE
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Many keep referring to Facebook users that are going to end up here on FF, but I think they have it backwards. Facebook users will continue to have no clue WTF FriendFeed is. We, however, will probably be relocating.
Nispell, Yolanda, Bwana ☠ and Capn' One Eye - adrift liked this
Yup
- Bwana ☠
Wow. FriendFeed goes to Facebook? Wild!
Iván Abrego, Chris Greene, John Wang and 17 other people liked this
Not believing this until I see some more proof.
- Brandon Titus
Will Google acquire Facebook next?
- Ian Tindale
Look what you did.
- ydfeed
Is this for real or are you just referring to the TechCrunch post?
- Paul Jacobson
Yea! Crazy! http://bit.ly/AIEYG
- Daniel Brusilovsky
i refuse to believe. not while TC is the only source.
- Edgar Rodríguez
I dont like this all :(
- Fee501st
I wonder if Facebook will basically incorporate the FF technology/interface.
- Scott Paley
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I hope this is just a rumor.
- Rob Diana
B L A M E S C O B L E
- Bwana ☠
Seems uncool.
- Anthony Citrano
Not beliving it either......
- Roberto Bonini
Sigh and I just recently discovered the awesome FriendFeed. I sure hope this site stays and they go copy whatever code they want for Facebook. If it's true I still need to congratulate the staff at FF, you certainly deserved it.
- Patrik Arwengrim
I don't see the point of Facebook acquiring FriendFeed. They are pretty much identical services (well, FF represents just the News Feed portion of Facebook) I don't see how they can incorporate FriendFeed into Facebook. If they really did buy it, then I see this as them going for programming talent more so than the IP and will leave FriendFeed to wallow and die off. Much like Google did with Jaiku when they bought them for the human talent at Jaiku.
- Christopher A. Wichura
Official: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Brandon Titus
This means our beloved FriendFeed is dead right? I really hate Facebook!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Dear FF - RIP. I'm with Jannifer on Facebook....two big thumbs down.
- Debi Jones
Who loses in all this? The Friendfeed user community. Already seeing a few people jump ship. Sad to think of losing connections with the AWESOME community of folks that appear in my glorious river of noise each and every day. That upsets me. #facefeed #friendbook
Victor Ganata, Evan Travers, vijay and 9 other people liked this
It never fails. I take a few days off from Friend feed and all hell breaks lose.
- Brent Smorgen Bleg
Why are they getting so upset. This happens every time someone buys someone else. When Yahoo bought Flickr loads of people jumped ship and Flickr is still a great service. People need to chilax down and wait and see what happens.
- Parvez Halim
Please people don't go yet. Wait a second
- Kamilah Gill
I'm not going anywhere! Until I can't resolve friendfeed.com, I'm here.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Parvez: But Flickr still exists. We've no real reason to expect that the same will be the case with friendfeed.
- Christopher A Carr
+ Brian
- Amber, Random Time Lord
On pure instinct, I kinda-sorta agree with Christopher and Brian. I do think, until I hear otherwise, this means general badness for the FF community.
- Anthony Citrano
Facebook's ToS scares me more than anything
- Bwana ☠
All I can say is thank god it wasn't MySpace. Yahoo has managed to keep their hands off of Flickr for the most part. Unfortunately I think Facebook will take devs and code and eventually terminate FF. I hope they don't.
- John Rubier
Ditto, Bwana
- John Rubier
Reminds me of what happened to the community of folks I befriended in a now-defunct IRC channel called "Lobby1". @insurgent probably remembers that one...
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Where are we going to go?
- Evan Travers
Are we going to start getting a bunch of stupid gifts on Friendfeed now?
Keith Barrett, i80and, Seckoa and 3 other people liked this
/me gives David a nicely wrapped trout
- Alex Scoble
Poke! :-)
- Keith Rowland
FriendFeed goes Facebook. Productivity increases in the geek community by 1283%
Dobromir Hadzhiev, Louis Gray, Alex Scoble and 12 other people liked this
the silver lining eh? : )
- vijay
what is this really?
- Ryan Peach
Now for my #1 FriendFeed feature request. A way to export all my data :)
Dennis Jernberg, Flavio, Brian Daniel Eisenberg and 18 other people liked this
haha don't blame FF, you never need this. :)
- Oğuz Serdar
and a delete account button :)
- Yunus Tunak
Bingo
- Bwana ☠
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
V Mary Abraham, Hutch Carpenter, Zeb Palmer and 27 other people liked this
As my son says: "sad face".
- Her Lindsay-ness
arg.
- Aron Michalski
This is *not* good
- Jorge Escobar
My life has no purpose now
- Josh Haley
Is this real ??????? Please ?? No ???
- Jacque
Robert where are you ?
- Jacque
this news sucks, if it's true.
- Valeria Maltoni
What does Scoble think? A sad day in MUDville...or something...It does leverage FB to compete with Twitter and all the identi.ca federalist balkanizers.
- Prokofy Neva
I guess this means the death of FriendFeed as we know it.
- Jorge Escobar
I don't see a comment from Ken, vijay... what did he say?
- Her Lindsay-ness
Sorry... had my threads mixed up... I said this is painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
You should get a cut!
- Steve Rubel
Steve, too late for that. See if they can backdate me some options. :)
- Louis Gray
New chart?
- Liza
So... where to next, Louis? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I think it's time for you to build the next big thing.
- Bwana ☠
RT @TechCrunch Facebook Acquires FriendFeed http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... (h/t @themediaisdying)
Ivo Mortani, Jannifer @wordsforliving, aldenoneil and 16 other people liked this
what happens now?
- Ahmet Soyata
Say it ain't so!!!!
- Robert Burgin
coongrats-- its a game changer for twitter if you ask me
- cheapsuits
i seriously hope. this is bullshit.
- Edgar Rodríguez
So, is this beginning of the end of Friendfeed? Or the end of the beginning? :)
- Dilip Dand
I hope this is not true! FB will slow down or even kill FF's innovation :(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
It was bound to go down. Like we used to say on the block shootin' dice "Big Bank Take Little Bank"
- professor daddyo
I can't believe I beat you by 4 minutes in breaking this news, Robert ;-)
- Bora Zivkovic
Here is the official confirmation from FF: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Manu Ullas
BOOM Facebook Acquires FriendFeed http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Kol Tregaskes, imabonehead, K.D. and 30 other people liked this
NOOOOO!!!!
- Kevin Mohr
This is a joke, right? Ha ha ha
- LANjackal
say it ain't so!!!!
- Joe Magennis
oh dear
- Craig Eddy
I'm out of here!
- Joshua Schnell
I guess this would explain Paul's ":)" earlier on, preceded by a complaint about lack of sleep
- LANjackal
wat
- Mark Trapp
Wait...no
- Bwana ☠
What?
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
blah
- Jenny Morman
WOW
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Wow
- Rodfather
What?!
- Jeff
This cant be good, I just started to understand friendfeed.
- Jordan Patterson
Can this be true?
- Kevin Whalen
Well, its an exit. Probably a good exit.
- DGentry
nooooo
- holly
Must be HUGE celebrations @microsoft, they're @facebook's biggest $ backer. Big win vs. @google
- LANjackal
I'm going to need a few hours to soak this in
- Bwana ☠
:'(
- Ryan
Unbelievable, and yet believable. I guess the copycatting can stop now.
- Kenley Neufeld
Oh no :(
- Patrik Arwengrim
sigh
- BCK
Well that came out of nowhere. Honestly, I don't like it if it's true.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
Sad news.
- Shannon
I'm so confused right now.
- Harry Wolff
what a way to kill innovation. thanks Facebook.
- Edgar Rodríguez
The number of 1/2 word comments is hilarious in and of itself.
- JonathanJoseph
I'm gonna miss FF when it's gone, but I like the idea of FF's awesomeness bringing Facebook's UI along a bit. I wonder how much time Paul et al will owe to FB before we see them back on the market with a new product?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Wow
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
This is nuts
- Chris Saad
I guess all we can wait for now is another Facebook UI overhaul followed by a month of complaints followed by complacency again...
- Harry Wolff
crazy news, what a great move for facebook, but what about us :(
- sean percival
Until we hear from FF offically, I'm not trusting TC.
- Kevin Whalen
Is it true? Paul?
- Stephen Foskett
holy majoly
- anna sauce
So that means Facebook now owns all of our aggregated content?
- jcunwired
Did we just got sold down the river?
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Ok, so I wasn't dreaming
- Bwana ☠
this is just one of those "bad dreams" like on the TV shows, right?
- Al Degutis
You're kidding. Say it ain't so....... Light the pitchforks, we're matchng to the castle......
- Roberto Bonini
Wow! & I just tweeted abt FriendFeed being Next.Big.Thing. 5 minutes ago! Beginning of the end for Twitter!
- Lawrence Liu
There goes the open web's alternative to the closed Facebook news feed heh
- Chris Saad
How ironic. That tweet I ref'd didn't get submitted cuz bit.ly had "a problem accessing Twitter." Posted now at http://twitter.com/LLiu...
- Lawrence Liu
oh by the way, we just got the press release that facebook has acquired friendfeed, too slow for TC. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Jay Cuthrell, Mac Sharp, Jordan Patterson and 3 other people liked this
Shocked. Yes. Yes I am.
- Bwana ☠
You realize posting this is happening without posting an official release is a horrible horrible tease right? right? :(
- Harry Wolff
great, some a-hole with 75k (spam-scammed I'm sure) twitter flwrs is going on about RWW as a virus link that's meant to look like mashable!
Robert Burgin, bear (aka Mike Taylor), Bwana ☠ and Andrew Terry liked this
Ugh, any way we can help?
- Bwana ☠
no, just laugh with me. situation being resolved. thx tho
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
lol, how did she manage to get that many followers?
- Darren Stuart
My router is infested with baby spiders. I squashed about 20 of them scurrying out of the holes.
What have you done!!!! They were part of the router's Spider Processing Unit (s.p.u.) now it'll no longer work...
- Ciro
What?
- Helen Sventitsky
FFFFOUND! - http://ffffound.com/image...
Caroline, Alex Scrivener, Roberto Bonini and 16 other people liked this
I keep wanting them to be in Jayne hats.
- Spidra Webster
OMG! I so want to colour adjust these!
- WorldofHiglet
Can someone make them into Jayne hats? Please?!? I don't have any software to do it with!
- WorldofHiglet
To paraphrase a web series: I suck at Photoshop.
- Spidra Webster
Life support must be out, it's cold on the bridge.
- Andy Bakun
This is still so awesome, I can't describe it.
- Evan Travers
Patrick Stewart's expression makes it über-awesome.
- Spidra Webster
I just like Wharf in the background...lol
- outofmyarse
HAHAHAHAHA THIS MADE MY DAY - http://markwilson12.soup.io/post...
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David Monroe, (jeff)isageek, Lindsey is Fierce! and 11 other people liked this
Man, my cats are lazy mo' fo's compared to these two.
- Jennifer Dittrich
EXTREME LAUGHTER
- Bwana ☠
does that cat wear that red bra?
- MicahBear78
How To Fix the Xbox Live and Zune Social Friend Limit | Gear Live - http://www.gearlive.com/news...
Rodfather, Richard Lawler and Bwana ☠ liked this
I can applaud Microsoft for all the good they are doing with the Xbox 360 as a platform. After all, we are getting Games on Demand, a heap of new Netflix functionality, Avatar Marketplace, and more come August 11th. Even later this Fall, we get Twitter, Last.fm, Facebook, and instant-on 1080p streaming with the Zune Marketplace. Fantastic - but really, how about addressing this one need that people have been begging you guys for ever since the launch of the Xbox 360?
- Andru Edwards
from Bookmarklet
Played madden 10 on xbox& ps3 the game play is horrible. I'm still trying to figure out how I went Down 93 to 89 (via @Jones_Drew32) UhOh!
Bwana ☠ liked this
Four-Day Workweek Saves $1.8 Million in Utah, Makes Workers Happy - http://lifehacker.com/5332488...
Braden Douglass, Spidra Webster and Bwana ☠ liked this
"According to the Scientific American and a recent study conducted in Utah over the last year, the four-day workweek is a hit. Unsurprisingly, the 17,000 employees who participated in the experiment love the extra day off (workers spent 10 hours per day at work four days per week), and the state has saved $1.8 million since May. That all sounds great, but the 10-hour workdays could also mean a drop in productivity, something not addressed in the SciAm post—although employees saw a decrease in health complaints, presumably due to the extra day every week to decompress. So what do you think? TGIT?"
- Jeff P. Henderson
from Bookmarklet
Today, I went to a bookstore and asked the sales woman,"Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. - from FML
Dan Fitek, Bwana ☠ and Tom Landini liked this
RT @twitterapi Update coming soon with some guidance on what has been happening and what you can do to get up and running again.
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Colts WR Gonzalez preparing for bigger role with Harrison gone - http://www.nfl.com/goto...
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