This is the 2G iPhone I successfully bid on and purchased. Tonight I am RE-unlocking/jailbreaking. It's been going and going since the summer of '08 —it's remained on the 2.0 OS all this time. It's been a great value—thanks again Bwana (though I know you're not here anymore). Here goes nothin'.
- Micah
PB was actually a real surprise. I went into it expecting bad Sci-Fi but I left having thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a simple, unassuming film but Diesel's debut as a charismatic anti-hero was very memorable. XXX was just a vehicle.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Pitch black hands down. Although anything with Vin is hot!
- Sparky, lurking
Hi, five political dissidents were executed last week and 20 more await similar fate. To show your solidarity with the Green Movement in Iran (against dictatorship and bloodshed), could you please ask your subscribers to to join the 1000 like campaign for the feed attached. Thanks http://friendfeed.com/harfehe...
- Erfun
I wonder how the developers feel about their investment in the FriendFeed platform. Share your thoughts? Has today's announcement changed the way you feel?
TIRED —And I rarely feel so when I code for fun. The best eg. might be NoiseRiver which I made in a single month with people watching over my shoulder, _THAT_ was fun.
- directeur
sitting looking at hours and hours of personal code now nothing but digital dust
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
At least it might be around for a while.
- Rob Diana
Given the choice, would you develop for Facebook or FriendFeed? I would think Facebook
- Bwana ☠
Now, you have to choose FaceBook. Would you invest time in a site where you don't know what will happen? (Outside of thinking that for any startup of course)
- Rob Diana
I had a few hobby projects I was working on: no incentive to continue working on them. There's next to zero chance the API will continue in any situation; Facebook has its own platform. Facebook's platform wasn't appealing to me the last time I looked: maybe I'll go through it again.
- Mark Trapp
I'm annoyed, I was seriously considering fixing up the FF Comments plugin because a few people had asked me to, but I just don't see the point now
- Glenn Slaven
Personally as a developer, Not FF, this deal means that all the time and effort I put into my experimental personal projects may one day actually pay off. Not a waste of time after all. FF have shown that the dream is still alive, and congrats to them for doing it in this dreadful downturn.
- Bryan Whitehouse
Bwana - I suppose the same (maybe) that MANY Twitter developers felt over the weekend ... Don't put all your eggs ..... ?! We still don't know if FF will stay autonomous to some extent. Lots of conclusions being jumped to here.
- Charlie Anzman
Whoa. I got me a +1. (Thanks .LAG) Can I get some sleep now? Seriously ... People have Twitter Consulting businesses (some are actually real :). Can you imagine the 'new' client? "Hey you told me to tweet and then it got attacked ?!". The FF crew has always been extremely responsive. Have a question ... beef. POST IT! ... Maybe they and Zuck will read the Feedback Group??!! Why change now?
- Charlie Anzman
The acquisition funding model isn't new. I'm thinking Twitter is envious about now.
- Mattb4rd
Friendfeed's API is a dead end and Facebook's "API" (I put that in quotes) is the worst I've ever tried to work with. Lose-lose :(
- Carter ♥ JS
from iPhone
I think I'm done developing tools for proprietary APIs. Between Twitter turning off features last year and this shift in FriendFeed's direction and business model, I'm tired of not having control. From here on out it's all about open standards and tools that work with multiple systems. (see also http://friendfeed.com/feedtech)
- Ken Sheppardson
what do you like better about feedly then friendfeed or others? just curious. I'm trying to cut back, not add more tools, great s they might be. i'm exploding!
- washwords
Can I like this 3x. Thanks for a GREAT recommendation, Bwana. My new fave Firefox extension.
- Leo Laporte
Wow, even the screensaver function is cool...I might be leaning to feedly and away from greader...
- Anthony Farrior
Revisited based on a few 'endorsements' here on FF. Wow. Easy, fast, just cool.
- Charlie Anzman
What are the implications of "no thanks"? Same as "Mark as read"?
- Andrew Smith
@cecily if you get a chance, go to the feedly dashboard (through dashboard link at the top right of the screen) and click on the star next to the sources you like the most and see if the what's new page looks any better. The other option is to click on the "cover" icon on the top left on the nav bar and see if that view is more diggestable. If you have specific ideas on how to make the interface more appealing let us know!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@andrew no thanks = mark the article as read + let the feedly recommendation engine know that you did not like this recommendation. This metadata is then used with other criteria to unfluence future recommendations.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I installed and uninstalled all in 1 minute.
- Aaron Myers
Erhan, thanks :) I need to learn how to utilize it properly before I screencast it...it's coming soon though, I love this thing
- Bwana ☠
Looks promising, but I'm always suspicious of extensions that don't come from Mozilla addons site...
- João Almeida
What do you guys say to the folks who say Feedly crapped all over their Google Reader (adding feeds to it)?
- David Risley
It's in this thread David: http://friendfeed.com/e... We asked for a bigger warning since the one there is easily missed, the Feedly guys chime in as to why they did it that way. It doesn't "crap" all over your feed, it does create new folders, but they are easily removed. They are working on an undo procedure as well.
- Bwana ☠
I'm really liking Feedly as well. We'll see how it goes
- Shey
iGoogle has been my home page for well over a year and what I have found is that via widgets its generally there for me to either click on gmail or to go into google reader - the other widgets are generally worth an odd glance but thats about it - I've put feedly as my home page and will see how this works out - but first impressions is a clean easy to use interface even if you have a few hundred feeds to juggle..
- Jican
Feedly is awesome: I had a few hiccups after installation, but I re-installed, and it has been a real help in 2 ways: 1) motivated me to clean up my feeds and sort them into a major category 2)motivates me daily to actually skim through and read the content that is closest to my current interests. well done!
- Terri MacMillan
Not dissing Feedly, but didn't experience anything that made me want to give up Google Reader when I tried Feedly a few months ago. Anyone care to explain why I should try again?
- Chris Stevenson
I don't work for them, so I don't see a reason to convince you. Some people like it, some don't.
- Fleagle
Hi Chris: feedly tries to provide a magazine like summary of your google reader. Some users only care about productivity and find the magazine like interface a step backward. Some users like it and use it in concert with their google reader. Some people prefer using the magazine like interface only.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
"FF connected me with new friends that I would never have known. FB connects me with old friends I could have done without. :(" - jcunwired http://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
its actually quite easy to ignore someone you could have done without. *sigh*
- Sidney
Wow. Some of you apparently live terrible lives, filled with terrible people you seem unable to avoid, with the possible exception of this one website, I feel terrible about that.Of course, it's also possible you've wildly overestimated the difference between the people you know here and the people who know you in real life.
- Richard Lawler
I like this post, but I love all my social networks equally lol.
- Ryan Peach
Luckily, unlike so many here, I can keep using any website I want the same way I did before without devolving into a baseless bitchfest about what might happen someday somewhere. Or, I could have kneejerk reaction based on irrational fear. hmmm
- Richard Lawler
And you're very good at keeping your assumptions to yourself
- Bwana ☠
Except, they haven't really said anything. So thinking anything will or won't survive is premature. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's expectations there would be no need for war, sickness or evil deeds. Every online community is the same as every other one, if friendfeed, for whatever reason, doesn't keep doing what you want ti to do, you'll use something else. It hasn't ever been perfect and it never will be.
- Richard Lawler
I told you Richard. You're wrong. "Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority." http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Bwana ☠
Well, you told me what techcrunch's opinion is, because that's what I wanted to know. Thanks! (there's sarcasm there)
- Richard Lawler
Ok let me slow it down for you. The team is splitting. The product is going to merge with Facebook. (No sarcasm)
- Bwana ☠
I can wholly identify with JC's statement.
- JA Castillo
Wow Bwana...you are really bitchy in this thread...I think Richard is making some good points. If you are having issues with the people you 'accept' on Facebook there really is only one person who you can point the finger. You. Facebook makes it quite easy to NOT get involved with any person.
- Sidney
It's interesting to see ho people use different networking sites - for example - I use FB for personal connections and family and the rest are business related.
- Graham Bunting
I like my friends, but you are definently right. I just got on friendfeed any advice on making friends?
- Ryan Peach
I'd say it's time to get behind a platform, not a service. An open source, hosted FriendFeed-style aggregation/conversation platform. Mix in some Laconica, some JaikuEngine, maybe some NoseRub features.
- Ken Sheppardson
The next year is going to be interesting.....how do people like Apple get factored into this? Or do they steer clear and just provide the hardware for the software...its a catch 22, are they a hardware or software company?
- Jason Stephens
I think they got wind of the acquisition Matthew - Look at all the changes Google Reader did the past few months... Comments, likes, share status... All FriendFeed like features
- Bwana ☠
we'll have to pull our rafts together and tie them off until we figure it out. Hang out at Bwana.org on one day, then FFundercats ustream on another, etc.
- Josh Haley
Now it all begins to make a whole lot of sense. Google vs Facebook
- Bwana ☠
I'd probably be on Twitter full-time
- Seckoa
from iPod
My semi-educated guess is that we'll start seeing major changes in early 2010
- Bwana ☠
I really doubt we'll see any changes on FriendFeed... for better or worse. My guess is the engineering team will just switch over to working on Facebook features and functionality, FriendFeed will continue to exist as-is, with only a minimal sustaining engineering effort, and one day 6-12 months from now an effort will start to migrate users over from FF to FB.
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't understand all the crying when nothing definitive has developed yet. I don't see why the "digiratti" couldn't build another. Besides, can't Google Wave do a lot of what FF does currently? Build a community around that.
- Darrell Bell
I disagree, FF basically admitted changes are coming in their announcementn post... the verbiage was .. "for the time being"
- Bwana ☠
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Bwana ☠
True Bwana. I read that too. It could be branding changes for all we know. I don't know. That's the point, none of us do.
- Darrell Bell
Taylor and Cox told TechCrunch that “the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook.” We all know that statement is incongruous.
- Anthony Citrano
Seriously, my true point still stands. Another one could be built if the demand is great for a FF like service. I think this should be hint for some developers to get cracking.
- Darrell Bell
Of course changes are coming someday, whether or not they had ever been acquired, things will change at somepoint. that's hardly a smoknig gun there.
- Richard Lawler
+ Ahsan Ali "That said, I will persist with FriendFeed/Facebook - I don't want to lose the friendships & connections I've made here." Bet this gives jump start to something new in each of our lives here on FF. It's organic so different for everyone. :)))
- Myrna
LOL Yep. This is me, going back to my Social Median account to see what I have aggregated there. Even looking at putting *back* all my feeds into Strands.
- Anika
The thing with Strands is that they've changed the focus to a fitness site. So, all the aggregating looks kind of dumb there. Several months ago (probably around Dec.), I deleted most of my feeds into my profile. Then just a couple of weeks ago, I stopped following everyone there. So SocialMedian, but it's such a PITA setting up the newgroups or whatever they're called.
- Anika
Strands as you once knew it is even more dead.
- Louis Gray
Pish, Louis. As an fitness tracker, Strands is AWESOME!
- Anika
I'm pretty sure it's all there and accessible via the API. Maybe it's time to get cracking on some robust export tools...
- Ken Sheppardson
That's what I posted on my blog. I'm very concerned about my content. That's my #1 focus right now. All the stuff I've shared from FF to my blog, the comments...where does that go?
- Anika
I search them of course. I repost them. I use them.
- Bwana ☠
If someone tries to misquote me in the future, I'll have the real data
- Bwana ☠
I would think FF -> Posterous, Tumblr, Wordpress, static HTML would all be reasonable options.
- Ken Sheppardson
And yeah, I know, Facebook could buy Posterous tomorrow and this would start again. That's a bridge for another day.
- Ken Sheppardson
I never thought FB could buy Posterous until you just said it :(
- Bwana ☠
Facebook is a great company. And maybe they will add some great features we've never thought about having and make the experience better for the users
- Seckoa
from iPod
If we had wanted to post stuff on FB, they would have been posted over there surely? I use FB for connecting with far away family and friends; they don't want to see my science and cancer links, it's way over their head. Posterous is nice but it's like commenting on lots of disjointed blogs; there's no easy way to see conversations other than in isolation.
- Sally Church
the prob with facebook is it has too many features, worthless features. friend feed is very tuned.
- Marco
The possible feature changes, integrations and whatnot, I can get over. What I can't and won't get over is my data belonging to Facebook. That's where I draw the line.
- Bwana ☠
+100 Bwana! Why are people not thinking about their data!? Features? UI? SECONDARY! data is PRIMARY!
- vijay
On 2nd thought, maybe I should be more cautious abt making the jump from Twitter to FF as my primary Status Stream.
- Lawrence Liu
Thanks bear, I'll be shopping for more later
- Bwana ☠
I may be a no body in St Augustine, FL, but my content is my content. I hate investing time in something just to loose it. That's how this feels.
- Ronald S
@thinkgeek I can't quite put my finger on it. It's not terrible, but I don't love it. The zombie thing is cool however.
"Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook" http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority."
- Bwana ☠
Say goodbye to FriendFeed as you know it.
- Bwana ☠
RT @BreakingNews: URGENT -- Two massive earthquakes strike, one a 7.7 off the Andaman Islands, another a 6.6 off Japan. Details to come.
yeah I'm not going anywhere until they close shop for good
- Nathan Chase
Yeah, i pretty much hate facebook these days, and if FF just merges into it then i'm going to miss talking to all you guys on here daily.
- Simon Wicks
I am not going anywhere until FB breaks this wonderful place
- Ryan
Same thing happened when Yahoo bought Flickr. Will be interesting to see how many actually leave.
- Mike Doeff
It's not about love or hate, it's about what works best to fulfill your computing needs and desires. That said, brand loyalists of any variety are simply morons.
- Adrian
I didn't even know about apple until 2005. Ha! And I'm not kidding. I used to argue for the windows side with my business partner, who had just come back from dubai with a MBP. :D
- vijay
All it is, is a computer running OSX that fits in your pocket and passes as a phone
- Robert Burgin
I don't hate them. I am frustrated with the google crap right now, but I am still hoping they will step up.
- Martha
I just don't understand the Hate they have been doing the same thing for years but bar one app from the app store and all of a sudden everyone acts like they are doing something different. Nothing different and I truly believe this is due more to AT&T than apple and may turn into a good thing meaning more than one carrier gets the iphone
- Robert Burgin
Robert, I'd agree with that, but there are plenty of folks who are suddenly stating they are not buying another Mac with great fanfare
- Bwana ☠
Calacanis and even Scoble are leading the charge
- Bwana ☠
Yeah, we're not allowed to like the app store :)
- Bwana ☠
App store is a complete failure. This is why Android, Symbian, and Blackberry and doing the same :)
- Bwana ☠
I don't have an iPhone and I hate the fact that Apple went with an exclusive deal with AT&T who I will not use but didn't stop me from keeping my macs
- Robert Burgin
The app store is a great idea, Apple's way of doing it, however, is controversal
- Bwana ☠
The App Store is a hook. I sold 3 iPhones at a UPS store with it.
- Bwana ☠
Hey man, your deep seeded hate for Apple doesn't change the fact that they did something right with the App store :) Even with all the controversy surrounding it, it changed things.
- Bwana ☠
You've admitted in other threads ..don't even try it :)
- Bwana ☠
Apples "issues" with the app store really only piss off the geeks, the general consumer didnt even know apps were available for win mo phones for years. The app stores innovation is bringing this all to the consumer level, and most of the recent apple hate is not even registered by the normal consumer.
- Jordan Patterson
Man Bwana what did you do to piss this guy off I have never read a thread from him and I can see the Apple hate lol
- Robert Burgin
Robert - He loves to hate Apple. It's fun to watch.
- Bwana ☠
Then I apologize, I read your statements as you were anti-Mac
- Bwana ☠
But I still think that the Apple closedness is a large ingredient in what makes them so great, its a fine edged sword.
- Jordan Patterson
I have 3 macs and 5 pc's and they all work perfect together
- Robert Burgin
For the past month, I've seen quite a few "I'm leaving Apple" or "As of Windows 7, I'm going PC" or "Thanks Apple/AT&T, I'm getting a Palm/G1" articles. It's not just 1 or 2, it's a growing trend. That was the reason for my original statement. If you disagree, that's fine and you may well be right, I just go by what I see.
- Bwana ☠
I use what works, so don't lump me into the Apple fanboys who can't see any wrong. I know Apple is making a lot of mistakes, but I also recognize they are doing some things right.
- Bwana ☠
I am bucking the trend then, being a new OS X convert. (though I've never been a Windows fan)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I haven't seen much "good noise" lately. That could very well be due to my RSS list.
- Bwana ☠
I've seen it to. The negative noise is growing on the web. But the real world still likes the products. Me? I can't stand the mentality of some users, but Fanboys are the same on any platform. Religious zealots and tech terrorists.
- Paul Puri
The last positive article I remember is a rumor about a new product... re: new iTunes/Blu-ray
- Bwana ☠
Bwana, aren't all the positive articles about apple just rumors and speculation about future products? That, or a review of a new product.
- Paul Puri
Paul - in my world, yup. Rumors and speculation....and Steve Jobs stalking.
- Bwana ☠
That reminds me, I haven't peeked through Steve's windows the last few minutes.
- Paul Puri
Put me in the non-hater camp. Sometimes I really dislike the group-think that happens in this echo chamber.
- Mike Doeff
I have theories in mind... (perhaps I should have blogged all this), but some of it has to do with Microsoft's latest marketing push...it's working.
- Bwana ☠
And the popularity of cloud computing.... OS is becoming less of a factor for tech heads
- Bwana ☠
I'll stop hating Apple when their EULA allows me to legally install their OS on my Dell.
- April Russo
It always feels like I am back on the playground with the apple vs pc debate my os is better than yours no my os can beat up your os nanana booboo lol Amazing that one subject can turn clearly intelligent people into 12 year olds back on the playground (yes I include myself in that lol)
- Robert Burgin
I don't hate the company. They have first rate products. It's their mentality and closed mindsets that irks me. Not to mention the barrier to entry. If the product is so great, which it is, should it not be shared with a larger segment of the population? Apple can't handle the average user. They would break under that strain.
- Paul Puri
I can deal with closed mindsets, I'm used to it. With choice, I know I can always go Linux/OSS if need be. The thing that gets on my nerves with Apple is communication. Some people love the secrecy and mysterious nature of what's coming next, but when it comes to software/hardware problems and issues, it drives me insane. It's a deafening silence.
- Bwana ☠
Especially when it comes to security. I literally want to punch someone at Apple for being so quiet
- Bwana ☠
Well I am a Huge Mac Fanboy but I also love Windows I work for a large insurance company in the IT Department and they keep me in a job lmfao I say that sitting in my house in front of 2 macs and 2 pc's lol
- Robert Burgin
Another company I used to deal with, Digidesign, used to have the whole super secret mentality about their products. Sales eventually began to slide because there was nothing to look forward to. And the product was such a high dollar value that people got angry finding out a week later that the product they just bought is obsolete because a new one was released. They started making lower priced products and marketing their products ahead of time to drum up excitement. They did much better that way.
- Paul Puri