totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet!
- Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day!
- Sarah Perez
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;)
- Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself.
- Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those?
- Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa!
- Susan Beebe
Mona. Complete lack of talent, patience and time. Plus convincing my wife to let me spend two hours on a weekend making a USB Batman light...
- Johnny Worthington
I just captured a local version of this for my personal collection.
- Andrew Baron
This is cute, but do people really like that "music?" I grew up with rap, but lately a lot of the forms it's morphing into just sound like garbage. I guess I'm just getting old... *sob*
- Internet's Tad
heh. i just realized i'm one of those FF people who has been relying on Twitter and Ping.fm and blog feeds to share my stuff. that was my first FF post! :P
- Christine Lu
it would flickered and tweeted quickly
- johnpiercy
Except, isn't it pretty factually incorrect? By the numbers, plurk didn't pick up much slack, except for when it tried and epic failed.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
A perfect summary of the relevant issues. Though I kind of like hybridizing glossy with vintage; there's nice visual tension.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
This is a GREAT page -- very well done graphic work and extremely clever ideas.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
i should probably vote again today. just in case yesterday's deuce didn't go through
- Paul Rj Muller
I voted a bunch of times for Burrell, I think it will count up to 25 votes per person. In past years I got stopped at 25 but this year it kept going.
- richrecruiter
Isn't losing weight enough work as it is? All of these sites want me to discuss and share and catalog what I'm doing. Maybe some people need that, but to me it's just extra work. Good list though.
- Jim Kukral
Nice list, but the hard part is consistently doing it. The irony of diet and exercise is that I know exactly what I need to eat and do for maximum health, and for weight loss, but doing it consistently, ah, there's the problem.
- susan mernit
This discussion came up re: Metaplace also. I very much want to be a good scripter/programmer so that my designs can find their intended use. The problem is that I've spent many years developing an art skillset, and it's hard to muster the will to start on a programming one.
- sergiooo
@sergiooooo: Opposite of your problem here :(
- Yuvi
True, but unfortunate. I prefer specialization to generalization; the quality of work is usually better.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I agree with Shey. I tend to design interfaces and front-ends, and leave the programmer heads to do what needs to be done. Only possible in few situations though..
- Matt Harwood
Well, I assume that it's better if a designer has atleast some programming skills and vice versa? (I don't know, I'm not yet out in the real world)
- Yuvi
Think this came up on another thread. But I'm with Shey, given the option, I like specialization. Design and coding are two completely different skillsets, no overlap. I'd prefer a designer who understood limitations of dev, but wasn't proficient in it and spent all their time honing their design skillz. On, the other hand, many places don't get the luxury of having two folks, in which case combining the two equally is a huge boon (as opposed to having someone good at one and terrible at the other).
- felix
designers who know coding produce some of the worst code out there.. but programmers who have a flair for designing produce great stuff..
- Azeem
Azeem, I think it can go both ways. I've seen some horrible horrible design from programmers.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
shey - yes thats why i said 'programmers who have a flair for designing'.. but designers usually dont understand the need to have tidy code.. so they go for things like table formatting or WYSIWYG editors..
- Azeem
That's such an unfair characterization, don't you think? Wouldn't it be fair to say that a "programmer with a flair for design" might just be a Designer with a flair for programming?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
A major premise of "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" by Alan Cooper (2004) is that programmers generally do a poor job of graphical/layout design.
- Fred Yankowski
im not being unfair with designers... a programmer with a flair for designing is a guy who has lotsa experiece in programming and can design fairly well.. a designer by my definition is a professional who do designing... Designing things in computers especially things that need coding like HTML/CSS require fairly good understanding of it... A Designer who spent his entire life designing is less likely to produce a better coded design...
- Azeem
I disagree. Programming is something that can be learned and yes, innately some are better than others. But with design - you either have "it" or you don't. Other designers can attest to that.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey - im talking about better coded designs.. if a designer who knows both coding and designing produces a template and if another designer designs a page layout and asks a programmer to code it for him.. then the later would obviously be the better in terms of code.. which is why i supported specialization..
- Azeem
@Shey - I'm not sure that you can "learn" programming unlike Design. Just like Design, you either "get" it when you first come across it, or you don't. I have a source(links here: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...).
- Yuvi
Azeem: we are talking about interaction designers (ie UI designers), right? The comment sounds more like comparing Designers as in the can-produce-UML-docs-but-no-code designers.
- Yuvi
Any "designer" who cannot design for the intended use is a failure in my mind. It seems like the occupation "designer" in the context used here is someone skilled in visual presentation on paper using a computer based tool. For many "designers" that is the extent of their skill -- and that makes them flawed. I run into these people often -- they are often stuck in the past -- and assume that making things look good in Illustrator or on a static printed page is where design ends.
- Brian Sullivan
I think I see what your point is. It makes sense, and that very well may be true that programmers provide designs that are easier to code. But designing interfaces has many more, and frankly more important, aspects than how easy it is to code it. It's not just about making something look pretty that isn't a pain to support with HTML/CSS or with backend scripting.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Brian: I guess that's where we need to call diff. designers diff. names. Taking a print designer and asking him/her to design for an ajaxy interactive html page is asking for trouble.
- Yuvi
I think part of the problem is that everyone thinks that design is making things pretty on a screen, that given enough proficiency with photoshop anyone can do it. Being married to a designer, I know that not to be true. So much goes into a design, seemingly minor changes require much rethought of a whole page (or whatever).
- felix
@brian s. - I agree with you, but to be clear, designing for the intended use does not require that they be able to actually code it - simply provide a design that reflects what the intended medium allows. Yes?
- felix
i think the reason why opinions vary from person to person is because neither designers nor programmers understand how important their part of the job is..
- Azeem
Explanation: "In January 2007, people from Perth, Australia gathered on a local beach to watch a sky light up with delights near and far. Nearby, fireworks exploded as part of Australia Day celebrations. On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught. The...
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- Andrew Baron
Wow, 153 people 'liked this" so far and almost 30 comments.
- Andrew Baron
Absolutely incredible shot! Then again some of the best shots on the web come from NASA, National Geographic, Discovery and, of course, Hawk :)
- Charlie Anzman
Not to be too cynical but that shot seems to good to be true -- I wonder if there is more processing going on than the text seems to admit.
- Brian Sullivan
I'm going to side with Brian here. What is right: Comet McNaught was that bright in WA (I use to live there), but I checked my attempted pics, they predate this by over a week. I'm sure the comet was only that bright for less than a week. Second, the main Australia Day fireworks occur in Perth City...which isn't near a beach . Maybe it's Leighton Beach with Fremantle to the left...but it doesn't seem right. I did check the weather records though, there was a storm that night, and it's in the right direction
- Duncan Riley
I do hope it is real though...and I forgot how wonderful the environment there is
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, last year both Fremantle and I believe Hillarys held their own fireworks for Australia Day. I myself was trying to guess the location this morning. Being a regular on Leighton beach though it doesn't look familiar so I was thinking it may have been taken to the north of Hillarys. It also made me very nostalgic for Perth :)
- Penny
At 302 likes, the #1 most liked post of all time on FriendFeed. Antti Kemppainen Photography - Here's Antti's original picture http://jkemppainen.com/antti... Antti's e-mail is kemppaisantti@gmail.com, and you can scroll through Antti's other photos.
- Mitchell Tsai
Photos are the biggest thing. Facebook is to a large extent a photo sharing site, but their TOS prohibit you from doing anything interesting with the photos -- they're trapped inside FB.
- Paul Buchheit
Yes, Mr. Morin. Tear. Down. This. Wall.
- MG Siegler
I also want photos to flow into Facebook from other repositories. Display my Flickr photos in Facebook and let people tag them please.
- Benjamin Golub
Man with all the hypocrisy, it really stinks in here.
- Gavin
does not gov have the same exact motivation for not opening up as facebook?
- Fred Grott
@sacca's point is fun, but it's a fact that the gov's data is ours, and debatable that FB's is. Both would be great, but the Gov's should happen yesterday.
- Nate Koechley
First, government data is created through taxpayer dollars and since we all kinda have an ownership stake in the gov, we should have access to its data. FB data is FB's, per their TOS. Second, FB has data that is more valuable than other services -- it's a big business decision for them to be more open or not, and imho it's not clear if being more open is worth it to them at this point. Update: I see Nate already said basically the same thing. Anyway.....
- Eric Eldon
Unfortunately most government organizations get the lowest-bidding contractors to build their content which usually means lock-in to proprietary data and clunky 'net applications. Just check out some of their intranets. IE6-only VBscript running on 10-year old proprietary multimillion dollar software
- Glenn Batuyong
from twhirl
I've seen a lot of agencies just mirror "what works at other government offices" which tends to perpetuate this cycle of technical stagnation. Some orgs do get the message and it's usually because of some introduction of Web 2.0 technology into certain facets. However, it needs to be internally evangelized and pushed up the ladder to the decision-making personnel (who usually don't understand the need).
- Glenn Batuyong
from twhirl
Bumping my follow up Twitter comment to FriendFeed comments: Back to my comment on the government. Wouldn't it be awesome to get updates on new laws and programs through the various social feeds? My thoughts on this come from the new cellular phone law in California. I think many people are probably finding out about this for the first time by seeing the blinking signs above the highway. It would be amazing if a notification for a new law came in through twitter, or friendfeed, or facebook (or all of them).
- Dave Morin
Yes but Dave you missed everyone's point the value proposition is not in opening up as you would hoped but holding back. Politicians hide info to keep power, corps hide information to keep customers locked in..when users finally have away to route around than that info-lock in has NO POWER..that day is coming Dave very soon
- Fred Grott
My comment was intended as a prod between pals. I make it a habit to tease Dave and other friends at FB about the relatively closed nature of some of their platform. I was by no means attempting to jump into the fray regarding OpenSocial/FriendConnect. That said, as a FB user, while I was thrilled to see them start passing full text emails to me, it does bum me out that I can't reply...
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- Christopher Sacca
@fred gott. i'm sure dave would like to know how soon that day is, since you seem to have such a clear idea.
- Eric Eldon
WRT the lowest bidding contractor theory, hows about some of the more financially comfortable devs offer up their services in the form of govt contracts with outrageously low bids. Put your money where your mouth is so to speak.
- EricaJoy
@eric listen to Gillmor Gang its closer than u think
- Fred Grott
@Fred we agree on a lot of this. i was put off, however, by your antagonistic language towards dave, who has been at the forefront of opening up social network data to third parties for quite some time now.
- Eric Eldon
@eric users wanting their data as free as possible has none of the tone you subscribe to me
- Fred Grott
@Fred how many Facebook users want their data free right now?
- Eric Eldon
Better if govs give access to the raw data. In my experience, trying to get a decent api from a gov department is kind of tricky. If you get the raw data there are plenty of companies & non-profits who are willing & able to build decent APIs around it.
- Nick Lothian
@eric its not free part as u imply we want useful data that can only come about by full data-portability no user will ask for free or data portability because they do not know it as that.
- Fred Grott
@fred i fundamentally agree with you. i just think facebook gets too much shit for "not going far enough" even though it has been the (social networking) industry leader in data-sharing. just look at how myspace was treating third party developers in previous years. this is a process.
- Eric Eldon
This is what will happen more often with FriendFeed - items that appear and are discussed here will become news more and more. Expect this to happen more often.
- Ben Parr
agree with Eric Eldon's take on Dave's comment. facebook maybe deserves a little bit of shit for not always being transparent on the PR, but seriously they get waaaaaaay too much crap for being "proprietary" about their innovation & leadership. folks that really want new & cool stuff should also realize that there is a cost to risk-taking & research, and that is often recouped via proprietary measures. and if it ISN'T uniquely innovative, other competitors will take down their walls with better shit.
- dave mcclure
Are you kidding? Breakfast is the BEST!
- Thomas Hawk
"this message brought to you by the luncher's association of america"
- Cee Bee
learned in Japan: tofu, small piece of fish, 2 vegs, sometimes some rice, roasted green tea
- Maureen
I usually only eat breakfast on the weekends when I can hit up a really good restaurant (the Dish in Seattle is a personal favorite).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nothing better than the perfect omelet...mmmm
- Jeremy Hall
I Can't live without Breakfast mate.
- Parth Awasthi
have you ever tried Bacon!? It's the best!
- Nathan Rein