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Cameron Neylon
Academic behind copyright law changes warns that rights holders could lose even more control of content by taking test cases to court - http://www.out-law.com/en...
Ian Hargreaves' comments on new UK copyright law in detail at http://t.co/SJycUYOoU5 - Cameron Neylon
aw, they say this as though it'd be a BAD thing! *g* - RepoRat
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Measuring Openness and Evaluating Digital Academic Publishing Models: Not Quite the Same Business - http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j...
Measuring Openness and Evaluating Digital Academic Publishing Models: Not Quite the Same Business - http://t.co/5Jp8mMI1Ha - Cameron Neylon
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2eThe cost of subscription publishing | informed59 - http://theinformed.org.uk/2014...
'The cost of subscription publishing' by @lawsonstu http://t.co/B9xeqKrdw3 (data at @figshare) - Cameron Neylon
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this is a beautiful deck! - RepoRat
I was really happy with the way it came together visually. Was struggling a little with font choice as well but Century Gothic really worked well. - Cameron Neylon
...wasn't so convinced with how the talk went because I rushed the second half but you get that I guess... :-) - Cameron Neylon
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Apologies to all but am afraid I was interviewed today on "the future of libraries"
BUT something occurred to me during that which is the difference between longevity as a mission objective in terms of the preservation *function* vs the longevity of the *institution* so as to deliver that function. I presume someone has written/thought about this at length? It only really occurred to me then. - Cameron Neylon
...and that challenges in management planning (prediction beyond or even within the mythical 5 year plan) play out differently if you focus on a different one of those two things. - Cameron Neylon
This was in answer to a question on "what timeframes should libraries plan for". And my first answer was "centuries" and my second was "it depends on what you mean by 'plan'". - Cameron Neylon
10 lashes with a piece of tattle tape for you! ;) - lris
Oh, I think we plan for both? Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by preservation function. - Meg VMeg
Who was the interviewer? Do you have a link with more info about it? - Joe
Would another term for preservation in terms of "longevity of the institution" be "sustainability"? Or does that muddy the waters even further? - Catherine Pellegrino
Libraries should not plan (as in "strategic plan") instead should set goals and adopt useful strategies http://www.ssireview.org/blog... [eta: too bad this program was cancelled at ALA Annual http://ala14.ala.org/node... ] - Aaron the Librarian
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. I was trying to articulate that "Library as memory institution" doesn't necessarily imply the *library* hangs around forever but that the relevant functions (preservation, curation, weeding etc) do. The interview was part of a project at a UK research university looking at what it is doing for the future, so not a media thing. - Cameron Neylon
So was wondering whether when people think about ensuring that those activities have a long life (centuries) do they just assume the institution continues or do they think about how to ensure that the functions will continue (and one way of doing that is to institutionalise them). I may be just thinking myself in knots here but it seemed like an important point at the time. - Cameron Neylon
@Aaron Yes! That's more or less exactly what I said (only with...like...rationale and stuff). Will pass that on to the interviewer! - Cameron Neylon
I think you're entirely right, Cameron. I have sometimes phrased this in terms of opportunity and opportunity cost -- as New Stuff comes around, libraries have to consciously decide whether it's Library Stuff or not. Naturally there are risks in both directions: New Stuff that's a waste of time or off-mission, vs. New Stuff that gets institutionalized (as you put it) outside the library because the library dithered instead of committing to it. - RepoRat
And honestly, wouldn't it be nice if we did more to preserve stuff collectively and less trying to justify ourselves locally? - barbara fister
Weeeellllll, yes, but that puts us in the exact vulnerable position that university presses got into. UPs were/are *systemically* vital but *locally* hard to justify, which after a while meant Very Large Axes got taken to their subsidies. It's a dangerous line to walk. - RepoRat
Dude, local or die :) - Meg VMeg
Which means issues best addressed systemically... don't get effectively addressed. If there's an answer to this dilemma, I dunno what exactly it is. - RepoRat
Is the interview going to appear anywhere? And as for systematically, I think the Ontario-wide Scholars Portal collaboration shows potential for libraries getting together and saving the world a little bit. - John Dupuis
@John: no I don't think so, it was a strategic planning exercise not a media thing. @RepoRat, MegVMeg: Another aspect was the question of the "local" libraries within the institution, departmental, college etc. I made the point that local provision was no doubt being justified on the basis of local user need, and that was a good justification, but what about user groups that didn't have... more... - Cameron Neylon
Hmmmm...through hiring diverse staff, through programming/outreach and surveys, through paying attention to the community when they leave the walls of the library and paying attention to hunches. It's definitely a big question, but it's one we bother to struggle with and think about, and one that gets discussed in LIS education. - Meg VMeg
Megan loves summer
Seeking advice for a prof: how does one go about establishing an academic journal?
He is in the very early stages of considerations about starting a new journal in the Social Sciences. At this point, I'm trying to come up with key questions that he will need to think about, e.g., OA or not (or if not, approaching a publisher), hosting, editorial board and process, issn/dois, etc etc. One faculty in our uni has some OA journals, but the uni press doesn't do journals and the library isn't in a position right now to be involved. I've gathered some resources to give him, but does anyone else have advice to pile on? - Megan loves summer
Here are some of the things I will point out to him: From Oasis: http://www.openoasis.org/index...; Developing open access journals : a practical guide / David Solomon (Chandos); some publishers' requirements for new journal proposals - Megan loves summer
I know I'm biased, but I would argue that any new journal that isn't OA is going to have a harder time finding an audience. If they anticipate UK authors to contribute, OA would be advantageous. Also, I am biased. - barbara fister
What Barbara says, and I don't admit to being biased. - Walt Crawford
Also biased but I've heard stories of previously paywalled journals moving to OA and suddenly for some reason getting huge amounts more readership and citations. - Deborah Fitchett
Oh yeah, definitely, I will do my best to steer them towards OA. But I'm looking for resources that will take them through the whole thought process--like a checklist of things to consider (Eg How will we reach our audience? Hosting? Review process? Copyright statements? etc etc.) - Megan loves summer
This looks like it's in the ballpark: The Handbook of Journal Publishing (2013): http://worldcat.org/oclc... - Heather
Excellent, thanks, Heather!! EDIT: It's perfect in fact--there's a chapter on starting a new journal. Cheers! - Megan loves summer
Martin Eve has written quite a bit about the nitty gritty of setting up an OJS platform, what's involved what takes the work etc...https://www.martineve.com/ but I can't find the actual posts at the moment. Martin is also biased :-) - Cameron Neylon
Doing a search for "ojs" on his website finds them (among other things) - the first one's at https://www.martineve.com/2012... - Deborah Fitchett
Thank ye! - Megan loves summer
Cameron Neylon
In Norway, Government Challenges Veracity of Global University Rankings - International - The Chronicle of Higher Education - http://chronicle.com/article...
A challenge to global university ratings from Norway http://t.co/JVm8MRVRLi #HigherEd Tags: HigherEd - Cameron Neylon
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Ego Non Te Absolvo: Lifelong Learning Isn’t Only for Other People | Peer to Peer Review - http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2014...
Permission not to learn not granted - great essay by @LibSkrat http://t.co/UsmzTJ6tKN - Cameron Neylon
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RCUK APC data (2013-14) http://t.co/E4FaZs1Ilv - 2,100 APCs from 8 institutions aggregated into a single format - Cameron Neylon
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Academic Libraries and Non-Disclosure Clauses: institutions should internally mandate against them - https://www.martineve.com/...
Academic Libraries and Non-Disclosure Clauses: institutions should internally mandate against them http://t.co/5ypjkGJq07 - Cameron Neylon
Daniel Mietchen
"XML submission, editorial, publication and dissemination workflow" #OA - http://www.pensoft.net/news...
"XML submission, editorial, publication and dissemination workflow" #OA
"XML submission, editorial, publication and dissemination workflow" #OA
"XML submission, editorial, publication and dissemination workflow" #OA
Anyone know of other journals with entirely XML-based workflows? Or at least entirely based on online formats (including submission), beyond what was discussed at http://ff.im/oH5OG? - Daniel Mietchen from Bookmarklet
Is it really an XML submission system? Of the paper? Some of the IUCr journals use a form based system but I've not seen anyone accepting XML directly. 99% of authors would surely not know what to do? - Cameron Neylon
As far as I can tell, it's really XML throughout. @pensoft - can you please comment? - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel, our editorial, publishing and dissemination workflow is XML-based; as the submission process, we prototyped and published this in issue 50 of ZooKeys (http://www.pensoft.net/journal...), In short, we can accept XML submissions and develop now a routine process for that. Lyubo - Lyubomir Penev
Use this online xml viewer tool http://codebeautify.org/xmlview... - James Malvi
Cameron Neylon
Speaking as we were of Aspesi: I'm looking to populate a Charleston panel on the challenges of managing OA funds/APCs. Anybody going who would be good to give (some variant of) library perspective (or indeed any other perspective)?
Could touch on the issues of how to successfully transfer funds from subscriptions to OA models (no need to focus on APCs particularly) - Cameron Neylon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA okay, you probably SHOULD NOT do this, but Lee Konrad or Ed van Gemert from MfPOW, on account of they killed the local fund. - RepoRat
More seriously, Bonnie Swoger runs one, I think, and Maura Smale used to and has now changed jobs, so might be able to talk a little more freely than some. - RepoRat
Cool, that sounds like a good start. Trying to kick start a US discussion on what's needed to start pulling the right information and experiences together. I also liked the way Jill Emery was talking about how core library experiences were relevant to new roles at the SPARC meeting last year. - Cameron Neylon
Jill is never a bad choice! - RepoRat
kendrak
LSW - help me brainstorm. Trying to an evaluation tool of journals for authors. What information is important and relevant? I have title, publisher, impact factor, key words, and OA. I would love submission schedule, but that seems impossible.
Or can I just scrape/export this from somewhere? - kendrak
How often it comes out, monthly/weekly/quarterly, etc - Joe
Number of subscribers, acceptance rate (but that can be very hard to find for some/many journals.) - Joe
Ulrichs would be a good place to start. - Joe
of course. you can't export tons of records from them for obvious reasons. - kendrak
acceptance right and turnaround times are hard to find, though when i worked for CUP that was something we were told to promote, so we had it on our site. for OA are you including institutional memberships? - jambina
i don't follow on institutional memberships - kendrak
like biomedcentral - institutional membership = 15% off for authors. - jambina
ahh, yes! (though i don't the titles we're interested in feature that.) - kendrak
publication fees, copyright license, receptiveness to alt-licenses - Hedgehog
What their Green OA terms are. - Joe
Have you ever heard of these people? Who's the editor, on the ed board? What's their stated mission? Is it the journal of some org and is that org someone you would want to have a beer with? Did they begin publishing 120 journals in 25 disparate discplines in 2013? (if the latter, scratch from the list.) Do they like your shirt? - barbara fister
Gah! What was in my coffee this morning? - barbara fister
Something good! - RepoRat
Just re: acceptance rate: lots of humanities journals publish their submission and acceptance numbers in the MLA Directory of Periodicals. As far as I know, it's the only society directory that includes such info, but maybe there are others. - Regular Amanda
Note there are a couple of services out there already trying to provide this kind of thing. All providing somewhat non-overlapping sets of info built up from different approaches. Of course my brain is fried and I can't remember any of their names right at the moment... - Cameron Neylon
Interesting. I'm just focusing on transportation journals. Niche, yet interdisciplinary. - kendrak from Android
Walt Crawford
Serious question and quandary: Someone hearing about the new OA journal analysis I'm doing says, in essence, "I assume you'll make the spreadsheet available for crowdsourced verification and further analysis." I do not see this as being a good idea, and if pushed on it would be inclined to drop the project ...
I'd hate to do that at this point, since I've already looked at (individually) 7,818 out of around 11,500 journals and "journals" in the project. But I'm using a variety of approximation techniques to make the project less overwhelming, and I can just see, e.g., Beall downloading the spreadsheet, finding that my numbers (which will NEVER be used citing individual journals) are off for two or three journals, and... - Walt Crawford
... proclaiming "See? I said Crawford's stuff was bilge." (He's already used that word.) Whereas, of course, JB simply avoids facts, sticking with "I suspect" and "It seems unlikely" and the like. - Walt Crawford
Anyway, if it's really Improper for me to do this work--which will lead, as in the July '14 C&I, to discussions of patterns, NOT of individual journals--and NOT make the spreadsheets available, then I may very well give it up, blowing seven weeks of effort but saving 4-6 more weeks. - Walt Crawford
So: the question: Am I being unreasonable? If I'm unwilling to make the spreadsheets available, should I just drop the project? Advice very much wanted. (As I go off and do the next 10 journals...) - Walt Crawford
It's a good open data question. I can see a lot of value in the release of the data--if you're clear both a readme file and the final document about how/what you've summarized and approximated. JB's going to be skeptical anyway;he's already decided against you, I would try not to make this decision based on him (which is hard!). In my mind sharing the data gives your work/words more... more... - Hedgehog
You are in no way obliged to. I think it would be interesting and useful to others though. Whether you do or don't, you should be transparent about your approximation techniques. Then if you do make the dataset open and people complain a number is off you can just say "Well duh, see how I talked about approximation techniques? Feel free to make a better dataset if you've got the months/years of time spare." But if you don't want to make the dataset open, that doesn't mean the rest of the project is useless. - Deborah Fitchett
I think my reaction might very well be the same. The spreadsheets weren't "designed" for crowdsourcing, and the whole thing makes me nervous as hell. Of course, I could just blank out all the journal names, but that would make the spreadsheets close to worthless... - Walt Crawford
Deborah: My response was to Hedgehog. Yes, I do plan to discuss the shortcuts/approximations used, as I normally would. Thanks for the additional thoughts. - Walt Crawford
Is there a small representative sample that you could show to explain how you evaluated the data, and to explain how some people might interpret some things differently, and then say that the big spreadsheets are available on request? But then I wonder if JB would bother to ask for the data. Would he do that so he could nitpick? - Joe
Joe: Yes, if I go to the extra work on a sample--although there are two issues, evaluation (is this an A, B, or C?) and actual counting (where I've used shortcuts at times). In either case, then I'd need to (a) prepare a readme in some detail and (b) respond to requests. Grant funding for this project has been notoriously lacking... - Walt Crawford
I guess what I'm saying is "Is it irresponsible to not make the data available?" in which case maybe the best bet is to shut down the project. Deborah's saying it's *not* irresponsible; I appreciate that. - Walt Crawford
bump: I could really use a little more feedback on this, if anybody else is interested. - Walt Crawford
It's much easier saying what you should do with your data than doing it with my data. I totally get what you're saying. My thoughts were: I didn't document enough, my code (or calculations) done in Excel were done the hard way, the data are dirty, maybe someone else will see something in there I missed.... But as not you, I really think you should try to release under a cc-0 license or... more... - Christina Pikas
also, you are looking for sponsorship or more publishing opportunities, I think, and this could bring more attention and respect for your work. More trust from the people you want to attract. - Christina Pikas
oh and it's not irresponsible to not share. but it is generous to share. i doubt beall would take the time and effort to re-do your analysis. I really do. And if he does, so what! - Christina Pikas
Christina: Thanks for that. The odds of sponsorship are so low that I've mostly given up, and I've cut back on publishing opportunities for the moment. I'll have to think about this. - Walt Crawford
So its a bit late now but I always now try to figure out at the beginning of an analysis what can and can't be (easily) shared and bear that in mind as I work on something. I would always err on the side of release, even where its messy because the upsides generally are larger than the downsides. Problem is the upsides are all less noisy than certain downsides. If it were me, under... more... - Cameron Neylon
Turns out the person suggesting release is actually suggesting release of the spreadsheet(s) used in the July article--and alternatively suggests that I recruit a small team of experts who could reanalyze/deepen the analysis. Not likely to happen, honestly. I'm now satisfied that it's not reprehensible/irresponsible to *not* release the spreadsheets. Beyond that...well, I'll keep thinking about it. Thanks all for your help. - Walt Crawford
[Curiously, just reading a long discussion involving "reanalysis" of data, in an entirely different field, and it doesn't encourage me: basically says that the only reason people reanalyze is to attempt to refute] - Walt Crawford
… in related news, this conversation is useful for us as we think about trying to persuade our colleagues to release their data. it nicely illustrates the pros & cons of data sharing in our discipline. And I agree with all the points listed above. :-/ - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Bumping only because I just did a blog post about this...http://walt.lishost.org/2014... - Walt Crawford
Hmmm...interesting. The clinical trial analogy isn't a bad one. Also makes you realise that if you 'anonymised' the dataset then re-identification wouldn't be hard. I think there is some value in such a dataset (looking at correlations, subsets etc) but given the re-identification risk the work involved in effective anonymisation might be more than its worth. - Cameron Neylon
Thanks, Cameron. Others? (I should probably publicize the blog post on Google+, since OAfolk seem to hang out there. Will do so.) (Have now done so.) - Walt Crawford
I could see value in releasing *just* the names (and maybe URLs if you're feeling generous) of the journals/publishers you looked at, with NO accompanying information -- well, maybe column headers, but no more than that. That way, if we (writ large; it's a tempting crowdsourcing project) want to do the reanalysis, we can gather our own damn data and it's not on you if we do. No obligation, just a thought. - RepoRat
As I noted elsewhere, I'm perfectly willing to do that. (For the Beall and OASPA lists, the URLs "come with"--they're hyperlinked journal and/or publisher names. For the DOAJ list, which is of course just a subset of the downloadable DOAJ dataset as of May 2014, they're a separate column, but leaving 'em in is no more work than taking 'em out. For Beall, some fraction of journal cells would *not* have hyperlinks because of problems in downloading title lists from the publishers.) - Walt Crawford
aaron
Depositing articles into Institutional repositories isn't Open Access because it usually isn't CC-BY? http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2014...
Must say I am so confused on practical matters beyond definitional issues. So for Pre-prints you can generally choose the licenses you want including CC-BY, while for post prints and final versions you are limited to what the publishers allow and almost always they don't allow CC-BY? - aaron
Say for example i have a paper in Library Management and I check Sherpa-romeo it says okay post-print in IRs. Can I use CC-BY or any other CC license (CC-BY-NC etc) for that matter? - aaron
The whole piece starts from the wrong perspective. It sets up an opposition between journal-mediated OA and repository-mediated OA on the basis that repositories can't choose licenses. Repositories can, of course, choose licenses (or let authors do so) if they ensure that authors retain sufficient rights. Whether its done through journals or repositories, getting liberal licensing requires some political will on part of the community to tell publishers how its going to be. - Cameron Neylon
Short answer: To post anything anywhere under any license you need the rights to do so. If you've given them away you can't. If you don't give them away you can. There is some confusion over whether differing versions of the manuscript are subject to copyright transfer agreements. - Cameron Neylon
My frustration is that the tenor of the argument (publishers are pushing for CC BY) is absolutely wrong. The traditional publishers are pushing for CC NC with them owning the copyright. Picking fights amongst ourselves over licensing, rather than working together to ensure authors retain copyright is playing right into their hands. - Cameron Neylon
I have to say, though, I'm with Royster on "the OA movement has repeatedly and callously screwed IR managers and libraries." But you knew that. - RepoRat
...not all OA advocates</sarcasm>...or is that</irony>? not sure... - Cameron Neylon
...but more seriously, a lot of that screwing has come from precisely the people pushing Royster's agenda (and a lot from others not pushing that agenda to be fair). But I don't see why we can't celebrate Royster's success (and others) as a model that takes us some distance but not the whole way. While exploring the options for going the whole way through repositories (via rights retention and licensing) and through journals and licensing. - Cameron Neylon
Put it this way. Elsevier folks are approvingly retweeting Poynder on this... - Cameron Neylon
Well, I agree, Cameron, but Paul's right that this is exactly what SPARC and the CC-BYnauts refuse to do. (I will say that I do *not* understand Paul's infatuation with H-rn-d. If there's a more anti-library voice anywhere in OA, it's Poynder himself.) - RepoRat
As for "Royster's agenda," it strikes me as an "actually get shit done" agenda, and I approve... especially having been hamstrung by my own workplaces as far as the shit they would actually allow me to get done. Now, what Royster doesn't completely get is that his success is rather sui generis -- even I, whose skills parallel his, couldn't do what he has -- but he's 100% right that he got shit done because he blew all the way past the parameters of what an IR is "supposed" to do. - RepoRat
Yeh, sorry, "agenda" is a loaded term and I shouldn't have used it. And I completely agree with the "gsd" idea. But I can't help but feel that he is over-reacting to a mis-interpretation of the SPARC position (exacerbated to be fair by anti-repo folks, who in turn are frustrated by non-delivery by many IRs which in turn is due to a lack of institutional support/vision/understanding). - Cameron Neylon
...or to put it another way, everyone is frustrated by the limitations of progress. While in fact in diverse ways there is lots of progress. But the frustration has us shouting at each other rather than combining to take on the real problem. - Cameron Neylon
True enough. I still think Royster is more sinned against than sinning, however. - RepoRat
Yeh, I don't know the history there. But I was there in Kansas City. Heather's point was always that with good progress towards public access we need to ensure that traditional publishers don't grab a rhetorical position around equating ability to read with 'Open Access' and from there to the idea that we're finished. It's precisely about combatting CHORUS and trad publisher initiatives... more... - Cameron Neylon
tl;dr I think we're burning a lot of energy on each other rather than focussing it where needed. And Poynder seems to fan the flames. What we'll be left with is some good repositories where we can read stuff and everything else is CC NC with copyright held by Elsevier. - Cameron Neylon
Agree that we need to focus on authors who should keep the copyright. However, from surveys I've seen, most/many authors would want to license their work CC-BY-NC, so in a way it is a positive for many OA publishers to license their works as CC-BY. - Joe
Of only it were the case that AUTHORS retained control over the commercial uses when journals publish with the CC-BY-NC license. Usually, it's the publisher that retains control over future commercial uses. - DJF from Android
Which points to the real root problem, IMO: ignorance, mostly though not exclusively among faculty. (I ain't never gon' get over Mike "can't trust IRs! they're run by libraries! let's put everything in arXiv!" Taylor.) - RepoRat
" If there's a more anti-library voice anywhere in OA, it's Poynder himself." Sigh and I thought I was finally starting to understand the complexities of Open Access by reading through the State of Open Access interviews. Poynder reads very librarian friendly to me, a newbie to this area..... harnad makes sense to me though dont get the repetition thing he does. - aaron
"What we'll be left with is some good repositories where we can read stuff and everything else is CC NC with copyright held by Elsevier." Sorry, another newbie question. This is bad because? datamining? - aaron
This is bad because authors are the ones who should have the final say in how their work is used, not Elsevier. And the model you quote eliminates A LOT of uses. A friend of mine just published an edited collection of papers on bioethics, and she had to leave out a core article because the PUBLISHER wanted too high a licensing fee. Which means that the original author isn't being read. - DJF from Android
Poynder's interviewees are well-selected and the interviews are worth reading, but he can certainly slant a question when he wants to. (Shieber in particular calls him on it several times.) He also periodically writes some damn thing slamming libraries for Not Doing Enough for OA. I largely quit reading everything except his interviews in, like, 2008 or so because of that. When POYNDER loses a career for caring too much about OA, he can tell me I ain't done enough. Until then, he can STFU. - RepoRat
@Aaron So some (many) authors don't want commercial use of their work and so they get slanted towards an NC license. If they hold the rights then I'm kind of ok with this because when we convince them of the one true way (TM) they have the option to relicense. Or if someone comes along with a commercial use that they like they can specifically license that. Not great, but not so bad.... more... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron, I've come to the conclusion that owning the copyright is a red herring. It's common for large publishers to say, "author keeps the copyright, we publish it NC, and we are the ones who license commercial uses." So I talk about control and decision-making, not copyright, because it's me general and avoids the confusion caused by publishers going for the "author retains copyright" checkbox. - DJF from Android
@DJF, yes you're quite right. We've just changed wording in an updated version of the Open Access Spectrum for precisely that reason. 'Author retains full rights to assign rights' is a bit of a mouthful though :-) - Cameron Neylon
So if authors never ever sign over copyrights... the whole argument abt green vs gold is mostly moot and we all live happily ever after? - aaron
Life would be a lot easier, yeah. A simple author permission, which isn't too hard to come by, would let a librarian or a grant agency grab up manuscripts to make OA, and all the tedious arguments about text-mining wouldn't come up. Much bizarro permissions stuff would also vanish, though in fairness it must be said that skeevy republication outlets would likely become much more of a thing. - RepoRat
Yep, and that's the core of my issue with the dustup. There's nothing in principle stopping an institution ensuring that it or its authors can make docs available on a repository under any desired license. There's nothing inherent in publisher-route OA that makes licensing easier. In both cases the community needs to demand either the licenses they want or the right to license as they... more... - Cameron Neylon
This is one of those surprisingly meaty FF threads that I hope stays around. Dunno that I have much to add, except that I find that thinking of Poynder as "Harnad with less repetition and a little more subtlety" makes it easier to understand his posts. - Walt Crawford
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List of journals that do not provide a publishing option compliant with the Trust - http://figshare.com/article...
figshare top content last week incl Wellcome Trust data http://t.co/OLA9r74IUW and The future of ecology presentation http://t.co/ONo2pFybMb - Cameron Neylon
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The opportunities and challenges of online open-access publishing - The Washington Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...
The opportunities and challenges of online open-access publishing http://t.co/pCYvrI1ump via @washingtonpost #openaccess Tags: openaccess - Cameron Neylon
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Peer review service recognition – ORCID-CASRAI recommendations need your feedback | Discussions – F1000 Research - http://blog.f1000research.com/2014...
Peer review service recognition – ORCID-CASRAI recommendations need your feedback. http://t.co/008LXsUJPO - Cameron Neylon
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Code Sharing Is Associated with Research Impact in Image Processing - http://www.computer.org/csdl...
.@victoriastodden the article on code sharing is here (paywalled): http://t.co/3c8pWWKSm9 - Cameron Neylon
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Your weekend white paper: Opening up to Open Access | FutureBook - http://www.futurebook.net/content...
Your weekend white paper: Opening up to Open Access,by Nathalie Guest | FutureBook http://t.co/o3XpH0j4Vi - Cameron Neylon
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‘Dismal’ start for Access to Research initiative | News | Times Higher Education - http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news...
‘Dismal’ start for Access to Research initiative http://t.co/KXTZ2JWkOY via @timeshighered - Cameron Neylon
Walt Crawford
Turns out I was quoted, sort of, in the Nature article (which, unsurprisingly, is still slanted towards Beall, but is really about DOAJ): http://www.nature.com/news...
[I found out about this from Lars at DOAJ first. Off to hike shortly, back in a few hours.] - Walt Crawford
Yep just saw it - does seem rather uncritically slanted to Beal but maybe Richard's at least read some more of your analysis and taken it in. - Cameron Neylon
He did get the facts right, so I won't choose to fault him, although I'd say "more than 90% of DOAJ journals, even under the old rules, don't fall into Beall's broad categories of questionable journals" is more to the point than "900 journals on DOAJ might be questionable." But it's his story... - Walt Crawford
Cameron Neylon
Open-access website gets tough : Nature News &amp; Comment - http://www.nature.com/news...
About time too — good news for the whole of academia. MT @SPARC_NA: @DOAJplus enforces stronger quality standards. http://t.co/GsmEwhGDIN - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Declining to give a publisher copyright in a paper - https://plus.google.com/+ScottM...
Declining to give a publisher copyright in a paper. http://t.co/m5RtduX7c7 #copyright Tags: copyright - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
[1407.8010] Alternative metrics in scientometrics: A meta-analysis of research into three altmetrics - http://fr.arxiv.org/abs...
Alternative metrics in scientometrics: A meta-analysis of research into three altmetrics. (arXiv:1407.8010v1 [cs.DL]) http://t.co/G68Fqnbszx - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Damnit. Found a recording of the choruses from Death of Klinghoffer - that's going to be a bad earworm...never seen a video of a performance tho which always surprises me...
Ok, I stand corrected. DVD of the (UK) Channel 4 film is available - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
I am currently on holiday. You can tell this because I’m writing, reading and otherwise doing things that I regard as fun. In particular I’ve been catching up on some reading. I’ve been meaning to read Danah Boyd‘s It’s Complicated for some time (and you can see some of my first impressions in the previous post) but I had held off because I wanted to buy a copy. That may seem a strange statement. Danah makes a copy of the book available on her website as a PDF (under a CC BY-NC license) ... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
"That would work for Danah's book but not for Foucault. It only exists online as scanned copies and pretty ropey OCR'd version that I could find." - Cameron Neylon
Walt Crawford
Came *this* close to commenting at SKitch, with Joe Esposito blathering about how much he's irked by university librarians with $50 million budgets being contemptuous of university presses. I'm guessing Joe believes there are dozens or hundreds of such university libraries. In fact, as of 2012 data, there are ten (10) in the U.S.
So since he speaks of being irked as something that occurs a lot, he'd have a pretty short list of candidates. But not gonna go there: I know better than to enter the SKitch hall of mirrors. - Walt Crawford
[And as to the Go Big or Go Home: I'm eventually working on an informal essay about the *dis*economies of scale, apparently, where non-med/bio Gold OA is concerned: How so many libraries, colleges and associations can afford to run smallish OA journals without APC.] - Walt Crawford
If you're wondering: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, USC, Michigan, Columbia, NYU, Penn State, Princeton, UCLA. Yes, I know, Berkeley should be on that list, but Berkeley lost a lot of budget over the period 2002-2012, and is just now getting *part* of it back. Berkeley, Cornell, UT Austin and UIUC would be next up, but all under $50 big ones. - Walt Crawford
There are some interesting diseconomies of scale that emerge across the board. One that ONE is dealing with is that it has to deal systematically with all sorts of misbehaviour and odd occurrences that most journals would only ever see one or two examples of, so they take an ad hoc approach. Raises some interesting questions about what we miss about the issues in the literature because... more... - Cameron Neylon
I won't be writing anything deep or, um, scholarly, but Cameron, you raise some interesting points. On the other hand, many (most?) of the non-hard-science journals I'm looking at have somewhat different issues (for one thing, life & death are rarely involved!). On the grappling hand, some of those *really* small journals are going to disappear from DOAJ given the new rules (they publish fewer than five articles a year). - Walt Crawford
In my addled mind, a biology, biomed, medical or agriculture journal that publishes four articles a year is a pretty clear failure--where a journal devoted to the work of one author (there are several of those) might be doing just fine at that level. - Walt Crawford
JH isn't in that top 10? surprised! - Christina Pikas
Johns Hopkins' total library spending was around $37.3 million in 2012. - Walt Crawford
Is there any university anywhere else in the world that goes anywhere near $US50M - I had thought eg Oxford was around £18M so a long way short... - Cameron Neylon
@Walt "Viability is correlated with quality": discuss. Seriously not clear to me. You raise an interesting question about both what is viable (work on a single author? sounds tough) and what *should* be viable. Scale to give viability at the journal level implies a certain kind of subject matter. Creating scale at a platform level that allows more subject vertical and niche 'journals'... more... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron: As to the first, I have no idea. As to the second: I'm not sure I'm saying viability is correlated with quality, since I'm not sure I believe that. These are some tough issues that I'm probably not even the best person to be writing about; I just tossed off a couple of things here, based on the casual research I'm doing. As you say, more for (someone) to think about... - Walt Crawford
Cameron Neylon
Frequently asked questions about open access in the post-2014 Research Excellence Framework http://t.co/fZPRc6jijN - Cameron Neylon
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