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Christina Pikas
looks like @OSTIgov is working hard to get public access up and running:
thank you; would not have seen that otherwise. bookmarking! - RepoRat
That's extremely light on detail of what's actually being done though. Lots of "stuff is happening" and "these people are talking" but not quite so much "this is what is happening". - Cameron Neylon
true, but I read it as more of a NIH model than a publisher model? I guess we'll see. - Christina Pikas
I read it that way too, fwiw. - RepoRat
DOE are the most CHORUS-friendly of the agencies. My understanding is that there will still be a backup repository in case something goes wrong which goes some way to assuaging my concerns with that route. - Cameron Neylon
is DOE really or are you going with a certain DOE contractor's say so? i wonder if that contractor's view is shared or not. - Christina Pikas
Oh nope. Definitely not with contractor. Based on discussions with DoE folks but that was a while back. - Cameron Neylon
now hearing that ACM is saying DOE has definitely picked chorus. damn. - Christina Pikas
with SHARE pretty much dead, I guess I'm not surprised -- CHORUS looks superficially like the no-cost option. - RepoRat
Christina Pikas
Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics put out a memo July 9 about the public access policy, but it essentially says: you will comply by sending stuff to DTIC, enforcement details coming soon
sounds like DoD is also going with the NIH model, putting things in DTIC, instead of standing up some new system. Makes sense to me. DTIC has been cut to the bone, however, so I don't know how they will manage this greater influx of new stuff - Christina Pikas
Oooh, can haz link to memo? - Hedgehog
Ditto, interested if is public. - Cameron Neylon
It doesn't have any markings on it, but I found it through a non-public source. i'll look for it out in the wild. - Christina Pikas
you have the best fed gossip ;) - RepoRat
Cameron Neylon
Researcher as Teenager: Parsing Danah Boyd’s It’s Complicated -
I have a distinct tendency to see everything through the lens of what it means for research communities. I have just finally read Danah Boyd’s It’s Complicated a book that focuses on how and why U.S. teenagers interact with and through social media. The book is well worth reading for the study itself, but I would argue it is more worth reading for the way it challenges many of the assumptions we make about how social interactions online and how they are mediated by technology. The main thrust of Boyd’s argument is ... - Cameron Neylon
now, now, Cameron, didn't anybody tell you you're not supposed to point out that academics jockey for social position like high-schoolers?! ;) - RepoRat
I'm allowed now, I'm not an academic any more :-) - Cameron Neylon
hahahahahaha FTW - RepoRat
Sarah G.
I've decided that academic libraries need to make move to take over scholarly publishing. Journals, monographs, data, textbooks, all of it.
Conferences. Don't forget conferences. - Deborah Fitchett
I don't buy it in the long term. A few libraries will do it well, others will turn to them to provide services and they will turn into system-wide service providers which will be renamed 'publishers'...kind of what happened circa 1850-1950 with university presses (maybe more so in Europe than the US). None of which is to say that taking things back into community ownership is a bad... more... - Cameron Neylon
Exactly what happened with the ILS, yeah. It might work if we can figure out how to do it on a Hathi-Trust-ish level -- that is, consortially or regionally -- but US academic libraries are SO BAD at that. SO BAD. - RepoRat
Interesting that, aside a few honourable exceptions, the most interesting library as publisher things do seem to be happening in Europe. Although perhaps more at the consortial level (OAPEN, DOAB, UCL Press etc). Flip side of that is that European institutions seem to get themselves into structures that then become hard to break out of. US institutions take so long to figure out something should be done that whoever does it best earliest just wins the whole party.</vast-oversimplification> - Cameron Neylon
Seconded Sarah G's original statement. And I think US academic libraries are getting better at working collaboratively, out of necessity. - Laura Krier
Well, I don't really think "working collaboratively" is the roadblock, exactly. It's thinking systemically -- about things that benefit The World At Large (including our patrons) rather than the usual, which is Our Patrons and Screw Everybody Else. and - RepoRat
Yeh, that was my point. US institutions (and not just universities) don't think systemically because they don't operate that way. In Europe funding is often systemic and certainly much more coordinated (some might say managed). It's not all good by any means - in fact I think figuring out how to bridge the transatlantic gap might provide the best outcomes if we can get best of both worlds together (and not the opposite...) - Cameron Neylon
Or figuring out what works better in both circumstances, or how to leverage each for maximum benefit given their differences. I don't have a strong sense of what will work -- probably idealism damage from beating my head bloody against too many brick walls. - RepoRat
Cameron Neylon
Discussion w Knowledge Integration about the merit -
Discussion w Knowledge Integration about the merits of 'culture-specific' harvest (ie OAI PHM) vs web harvest (eg. microformat) vs data push - Cameron Neylon
Sarah G.
Harvard is fancy as fuck. They use magnets on their name tags.
*scoff* I've had magnets on my name tags the last two places I've worked. And neither of them were Harvard. ;) - ellbeecee
Yeah, same here. Whatevs, Harvard. - Steele Lawman
colleague had a go at 'em last weekend: we, of course, have (see first pic) 'cos WE FANCY. - RepoRat
I'll tell JZ you're not impressed, then. Harrumph. - Sarah G.
Hmmm "Picture the smell of sizzling brats fill the air as you and your friends enjoy the sweet summer breeze and dancing under the stars." has a somewhat different meaning in British english... - Cameron Neylon
yes, yes it does. *g* it's short for "bratwurst" in the Upper Midwest. (There's a pronunciation difference as well. "Brat" meaning "annoying child" has the a of "fat," whereas "brat" meaning "sausage" has the a of "father.") - RepoRat
...I mean, I know I don't like children but that seems a little excessive all things considered... - Cameron Neylon
soylent wurst! - RepoRat
We don't have name should know who we are.we are that fancy. - Pete from FFHound(roid)!
Wisconsin is fancy as fuck. They can picture smells. - Steele Lawman
And mix metaphors! FANCILY. - RepoRat
Btw they made up return our name badges at the end of the day. :( - Sarah G.
well, that ain't fancy. - RepoRat
Cameron Neylon
. I want my software to be supple, with well-worn -
.@kaythaney I want my software to be supple, with well-worn corners & creases from being folded into new configurations. #BOSC2014 Tags: BOSC2014 - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Biomedical Research as an Open Digital Enterprise -
Great talk by @pebourne on how NIH needs to change the way it works with software community. #BOSC2014 Tags: BOSC2014 - Cameron Neylon
This is bizarre. Nucleic Acids Research is an OUP journal. It's "open access", with all content available to readers on the web. Authors have the choice of a CC-BY-NC license or a CC-BY license (same fees for either). But if they select the CC-BY-NC license, then OUP is the rightsholder for commercial uses. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
you would prefer the alternative that the authors retain rights for commercial usage? I wouldn't think many people would want that. - Christina Pikas
i've seen similar wording in some others, though they don't call it a CC license - usually it's author retains copyright and can do anything NC they like, but if $ is involved publisher must be consulted. - jambina
Christina, personally, I would prefer that authors sign the CC-BY license, but it's not up to me how authors feel about that. Plan B is that authors retain control over future uses of the material, which means that they sign a CC-BY-NC license, and commercial users have to ask the AUTHOR for permission. - DJF
A friend of mine who was editing a book had to omit one of the essential articles on the subject because the publisher's fees for including the article were too expensive. I doubt that the author of the article would have attempted to ask for fees at all, if the article had been in his control. - DJF
I'd definitely prefer authors sign CC-BY, but I can imagine authors deciding they want to retain NC rights. What I can't imagine is an informed author deciding they want OUP to retain NC rights. I presume OUP is relying on authors not being that informed. - Deborah Fitchett
That strategy has worked for YEARS. - barbara fister
Decades. - RepoRat
Is the OUP situation the norm? I had discussions with people who felt CC-BY-NC should be the default, I think under the assumption the author decides on non-NC cases. - aaron
I think for both OUP, NPG and Elsevier you pass all commercial rights (either explicitly or the right to sublicense) to the publisher. Less clear in other cases that I'm aware of but I haven't looked closely. In all the big cases the intent of offering NC licensing does seem to be to give publishers right to refuse over commercial uses, not the author tho. - Cameron Neylon
Oh, this is a good one. Karger's open access option also uses the CC-BY-NC license, but, "Karger Publishers acts as a central point for commercial requests in order to help protect your work from misuse." - DJF
Dang. This is kind of a racket. - RepoRat
Cameron Neylon
Librarians Concerned Digital Content Licences Overriding Exceptions, Limitations | Intellectual Property Watch -
Librarians Concerned Digital Content Licences Overriding Exceptions/Limitations via @ipwatch - Cameron Neylon
A little bird has told me that the III no longer has a Director of Library Futures. "Too much investment for too little return", I am told.
The future is PLASTICS. - Julian
Right-o, Julian - ellbeecee
I'm bemused by the idea of Library Futures. Where can I buy them? And what is the timeframe to go long on? - Cameron Neylon
Cameron, at the Chicago board of profession, just across the street from the CBOT. - DJF from Android
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ win. - RepoRat
of course now we need to rewrite Trading Places. - Pete
Exactly, Julian - maʀtha from Android
Who wants to lay money on who the next DoLF will be? - maʀtha from Android
I'd last money on the position being eliminated - DJF from Android
that would be my guess too. I can say from experience that getting a position created for you has a way of not working out real well -- at least, where obvious nepotism isn't involved (it's never been for me). - RepoRat
yeah, it didn't last long - maʀtha
Which law suit? - Joe
Innnnnnteresting. - Jason Griffey
Cameron Neylon
Aaaargh! Mac Outlook clearly uses spotlight to search email. I don't want to search email when looking for files, I do want to in Outlook...
You can turn off Spotlight email searching (in Lion, the menu item is "Messages and Chats") in the Spotlight system-preferences pane. I don't know if that will break Outlook, though. - RepoRat
Yep. It does...stops the search function in Outlook working. - Cameron Neylon
bleagh. - RepoRat
Cameron Neylon
Lazyweb q: If I wanted to create a linguistically and geographically representative list of ~200 journals where should I start?
Oh and the source needs to be free to use and ideally open... - Cameron Neylon
there goes ulrich's! - Christina Pikas
does topic have to be diverse, too? - Christina Pikas
Yep, thought I better add that caveat for this group :-) - Cameron Neylon
Ideally yes. What I want is a 'representative' set of journals that I can use to complement a boring set of the usual suspects. Going to use the top 800 from Scimago and add in 200 extras. - Cameron Neylon
so probably not from NLM. I'm thinking worldcat, but you'd have to do some playing around to get things that are current .... also how to know representative? like should you have 1 chinese journal or 3 out of 200 hmm - Christina Pikas
Not entirely sure to be honest. Diverse probably more important than truly representative. - Cameron Neylon
Wikipedia looks kind of promising actually... - Cameron Neylon
british library also has a ton of subscriptions.. i wonder if searching there? - Christina Pikas
oh sure, pick the easy answer :) - Christina Pikas
Not so easy...I can get a bunch of articles but now I'd have to iterate over them and hope the info boxes are consistent...dbpedia may be... - Cameron Neylon
search british library for journal in title, then use facets on the left to pick off languages and topics and even publishers - Christina Pikas
Oh cool, that works. Better than trying to write SPARQL queries... - Cameron Neylon
or you could search for any random word anywhere and limit to journals... I tried to leave the boxes blank to get all journals but it needs some term. 113 periodicals in Norwegian, for example. - Christina Pikas
Cameron Neylon
An Illustrated Book of Bad Arguments -
Awesome @NalediSaul! I also really like: Cast political "discourse" in a whole new light. cc:@alialmossawi - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Frame Clashes, or: Why the Facebook Emotion Experiment Stirs Such Emotion | Tumbling Conduct -
A must read - Frame Clashes, or: Why the Facebook Emotion Experiment Stirs Such Emotion @kashhill - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie -
RT @TandFOpen: What are authors’ views on #openaccess? Released today #oasurvey2014 #oa Tags: openaccess oasurvey2014 oa - Cameron Neylon
laura x
I have lost the will to argue about the Oxford comma.
No, no, and no! Fight on! - LB says, "TGIF!"
"I've seen those English dramas too, they're cruel" - Meg VMeg
*picks up the sword* ONWARD WE FIGHT - maʀtha
Fight the good fight, my friends. To you the torch I throw and all. - laura x from iPhone
PLOS house style eschews the Oxford comma. I find myself crafting multi-level lists so that I'm forced to use one for clarity...or even two - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Should Science Always be OPEN? - ZENODO -
RT @melbaek Impressive result of yesterdays "Should Science Always be OPEN?" #esof2014 #ESOFopenness Tags: esof2014 ESOFopenness openscience - Cameron Neylon
Rachel Walden
Have any of you all written anything about changes to PLOS's institutional membership charges?
nope. hadn't heard, actually. link me up? - RepoRat
Oh, that's awfully disappointing. :-( - Deborah Fitchett
Oh..this is not good news. Sending notes to people now. - Hedgehog
well, shit. - jambina
I'm going to guess "not enough uptake from libraries to bother." Sigh. - RepoRat
How many no-fee Gold OA journals could Vanderbilt publish for $122K/year? Never mind; PLOS is a Verified Good Guy, so I shouldn't ask questions like that. - Walt Crawford
They're a Verified Good Guy who I'm pretty sure nevertheless could survive quite happily if they lowered their fees. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah: The last chapter of my Library Tech. Reports on Big Deal Damages (out any day now) has as one possible "solution," after "Transparent Prices," "Transparent Costs." I'd love to see such transparency happen during my lifetime...but that only allows about 30 years. - Walt Crawford
Another way of saying: "quite happily" may depend on personnel pay levels and perks, but otherwise I'm inclined to believe you're right. - Walt Crawford
ooh, Transparent Costs! sounds lovely! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
As I say in the report (not remotely in these words!), it's mostly a dream...whereas with FOI, transparent prices should be reasonably achievable. (On the other hand, some OA startups devoted to fair pricing--and maybe with university backing--*could* establish some actual costs...) - Walt Crawford
So the point is that there was never actually a discount. Libraries paid a 'membership fee' which covered the discount to institutional authors. This was just getting silly because there was a huge administrative overhead on both institution and PLOS on managing a zero sum system. So now if an institution wants either direct billing or to pay into a fund both those things are available.... more... - Cameron Neylon
..speaking as the person who took the decision to sunset the old program. More than happy to talk to anyone about this but we did it to simplify things and reduce overall costs in the system. - Cameron Neylon
I was gonna say that I'm pretty sure jh has been moving toward dropping all memberships and putting the money into a fund you have to apply for but that will pay full - Christina Pikas from iPhone
With author-fee funds dying like flies... yeah, I admit I'm concerned. But I do see the reasoning. - RepoRat
Christina, who's in charge of administering the fund and evaluating the applications? Researchers/faculty? Or librarians/administrators? Also, where does the money sit? Library budget? University/departmental budget? - Meg VMeg
Part of the issues was exactly that it didn't seem we were helping with author fee funds. The way it worked was we'd estimate volume, assess a membership fee of 10% of the expected costs, then find the volume was a bit higher than expected then have to assess a bigger fee the following year, on top of the volume increase so there was sticker shock - and the amounts were rising to levels... more... - Cameron Neylon
What has happened is that we have fewer US institutions using the new tools but a lot more UK and European ones. Certainly we're seeing a lot more UK/EU institutions establishing funds, less clear on how many US ones are dropping them. - Cameron Neylon
Yeah, that figures. I don't have hard numbers on the US either -- it may be a wash, because other funds are being established even as older ones die. - RepoRat
@Meg - it's out of the libraries budget, administered by the library, and there are some requirements - drat, they deleted the online guide since they ran out of money this year and the new year money doesn't start until July 1. Basically 1 publication per author, author has to state that they can't pay the fees out of a grant or other source, a copy has to be archived in the IR... I can't remember what else. - Christina Pikas
Whatever PLoS's reasoning is is fine for them, we're just not going to take on the costs or local administration of a fund of that type. (Note that this was not my decision to make on our end, so I will not be engaging in conversation about whether we should or not) - Rachel Walden
*nodnod* At MfPOW it was a lot easier to sell a membership than a fund. It fits into existing green-eyeshade categories and it's a lot less hassle internally. That's not to say it was a piece of cake -- I had to do the homework on how many authors and articles we were talking about -- but I'm pretty sure MfPOW still has some OA memberships, while the author-fee fund is deader than Generalissimo Francisco Franco. - RepoRat
... maybe all this is my next LJ column. I need an idea for it anyway. - RepoRat
There's definitely a wider discussion to have about where it is best to administer different kinds of system. I can buy that it's easier to subsidise by putting a smaller amount of money into a third party place. The catch is two fold - there's an administrative burden which to my mind is very inefficient on our side (the intricate variety of what different institutions want is... more... - Cameron Neylon
All that said, if there's real demand for a deposit account that gets use to provide institution marginal discounts then we could look at that again. But at the moment we've got much more demand for systems where the eligibility varies author to author based on their funding sources within an institution. - Cameron Neylon
You'd enjoy my summer lectures, Cameron. I spend a LOT of time hammering on the chooser-isn't-payer market dysfunction. :) - RepoRat
the thing with memberships, imo, was that a chunk of money would go to 10% or 20% discounts... when it was like not that for, say, $1000 they couldn't pay the apc but for $800 or $900 they could. It was like they either could or couldn't. library may want to endorse oa, but instead, they're endorsing one publisher and their offerings. and really, biomed vs all other fields of endeavor.... more... - Christina Pikas
@Meg here's how ours is handled if that's useful - Hedgehog
Cameron Neylon
The ethics of scholarly publishing: exploring differences in plagiarism and duplicate publication across nations -
Interesting study of retractions across nations. - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
How scientific figures should work in 2014 -
Fascinating paper re tweeting and cloud cover at - one for @marca in particular - Cameron Neylon
Heather Piwowar
RT @KnowldgeLinking: Aw, shucks! MT @diylibrarian: Great group of #sla2014 closing speakers! @sglassmeyer @researchremix @Joshing @KnowldgeLinking
wait, what? Heather Piwowar and Sarah Glassmeyer IN THE SAME PLACE and I'm not going? I CALL FOUL. - RepoRat
So can we have a panel somewhere (I don't care where - I'll go to whatever meeting it is) which is Heather, Sarah, RepoRat, Jason Scott and...hmmm - Cameron Neylon
Short hop to Vancouver. - Joe
Cameron, and...Barbara Fister! - John Dupuis
Meg VMeg
Holy crap, Jean-Claude Bradley died???? :(((((
so it seems. I am sad. He was on the side of the angels. - RepoRat
WHUT - jambina
oh my. that is very sad. - jambina
I'm sad too. He was a good person in all senses of the word. - John Dupuis
Wow, sudden news. I'm glad Tony was able to share this, since he knew him so well. - Elizabeth Brown
oh so sad. I saw him at ASIS&T way back when. RIP. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Retroactively proud to have shared a stage with him at SLA once. - RepoRat
I just pinged Drexel archives to see if they'll pick up the UsefulChem website. If not, I will yell and scream and stomp my feet until somebody else does or my digital-curation students do it next spring, whichever comes first. - RepoRat
Got a "thanks, kicking this up the chain" response from an archives tech there. - RepoRat
Had he been sick or anything? Does anyone know? I don't really see anything from him since ~2012 except for his White House visit. - Christina Pikas
Haven't a clue. This came out of the clear blue as far as I'm concerned. - RepoRat
What? Damned. There goes another good one. Now I am going to start crying... - Joe
So sad. - Sarah
What a loss. I remember, Meg, when you brought him to that kick ass conference at NYU you did a while back (and Elizabeth and Tony were there as presenters, too). - Stephen Francoeur
Yeah, I hadn't heard anything about an illness. I'm proud to have presented with him at the OpenSciNY and an ACS regional meeting a while back. Glad his work will be archived and remembered. - Elizabeth Brown
Archivist got back to me; IA has apparently been crawling the site, but recent crawls have failed and she's going to look into it. I thanked her, suggested the embedded content might be part of the issue, and offered to throw some students at it if they couldn't get a satisfactory IA crawl. - RepoRat
So sad. I met him at a Science Commons Symposium back in 2011 - the only other group I followed here on FF. Was so inspired by the idea of Open Notebook Science. He'll be missed. - Grumpator
Thanks for pursuing, RR. - Meg VMeg
NP. Somebody had to; why not me. - RepoRat
JC was an inspiration - literally - to a whole bunch of us. Was never happy with saying something could (let alone should) be done if he wasn't actually getting on and doing it. Usually with a crap-load of appropriated technology, bailing twine and duct tape - Cameron Neylon
Does lead me to wonder once again about archiving this place. You can't get back into stuff much pre-2011 systematically but it seems to be their if you can trigger google to give you a link. Quite a lot of history buried in the FF archives. - Cameron Neylon
SIGH okay lemme think about it. Could be a good, though VASTLY less than simple, digital-curation project for next year's students. - RepoRat
Sorry, didn't mean to suggest you should take it on. Just that its the second time in a month I wanted to dig back in and realised that you run into a wall if you just keep paging back. May need to talk to someone with control of the back end. - Cameron Neylon
No, it's worth thinking about, and would be a solid project if I can keep it from being overwhelming. - RepoRat
Let's get Jason Scott on this, too! - Stephen Francoeur
sure. I'll talk to him at the Harvard thinger. - RepoRat
I've been trying to figure out how to scrape just LSW for a project I'm working on...tossing in a hat of willing to help if I can - Hedgehog
Does anyone mind if I link to this from this blog post? - Cameron Neylon
Not at all. - RepoRat
Nope. - Meg VMeg
Be my guest. - Stephen Francoeur
Thanks, now linked. - Cameron Neylon
Cameron Neylon
Remembering Jean-Claude Bradley -
It takes me a while to process things. It often then takes me longer to feel able to write about them. Two weeks ago we lost one of the true giants of Open Science. Others have written about Jean-Claude’s work and his contributions – and I don’t feel able to add much to those reflections at the moment. I will also be participating in a conference panel in August at which Jean-Claude was going to speak and which will now be dedicated to his memory – I may have something ... - Cameron Neylon
Stephen Francoeur
Need a Friday afternoon pick me up? Try this awesome clip of Cab Calloway's orchestra with the Nicholas brothers tearing it up.
My jaw hit the desk at 3:07, and I was still scooping it up and re-attaching it when I got to the 4:00 mark, at which point it flung itself off the desk, rolled out my office door, and is now grossing out my co-worker down the hall. - Catherine Pellegrino
So amazing. - RepoRat
So much for thinking that was hyperbole to get me to watch that... I am stealing your description, Catherine. Holee-wow - Aaron the Librarian
Since I've had the pleasure of watching a full hour of Calloway (on film), that part wasn't astonishing...but the last (ouch) minute or so (ouch) of the Nicholas brothers, well, yes. - Walt Crawford
Yowza! - Marie
Those jumping splits on the stairs! But how? - Stephen Francoeur
Not just the one minute. Re-watch the last few minutes and compare the camera positions. There are at *least* four takes there, and I cannot wrap my head around how the audio was synchronised... - Cameron Neylon
Well, there may well have been a two-camera setup, but that doesn't solve the whole problem! - RepoRat
In the Library with the Lead Pipe » Who are you empowering? - http://www.inthelibrarywiththe...
In the Library with the Lead Pipe » Who are you empowering?
Longish, but worth the read - maʀtha from Bookmarklet
You had me at "Murphy couldn’t be more wrong." - Joe
Yes, but there is much more to it :) - maʀtha
Nice shout out to Kathryn (and Con), too! - Megan loves summer
I was at that keynote. This is a great article. - Deborah Fitchett
" A role as ‘gap filler’ puts libraries in the precarious position of being always second best. The death spiral will then kick in, as we become gradually less relevant to average community members’ lives and eventually merely a charity service for those with no other options." - Brilliant. Seeing this for academic libraries as well. - aaron
<muse>There's an interesting meme in there based on the idea of "a library of the gaps" cf god of the gaps</muse> - Cameron Neylon
I'm an amateur curmudgeon! - Andy
God is/was a librarian. - Joe
Second verse, as same as the first : - copystar
Cameron Neylon
RT @hjoseph: Just say no to overly-long embargoes on research articles - U.S. House Science Committee just did - #openaccess
but I think the FIRST act is the one that wants to defund social sciences research? and also tell the NSF how to do peer review? not all good. for sure. - Christina Pikas
Yes that's the one. Not a great bill. I don't know what happened with amendments on the peer review and funding parts. - Cameron Neylon
Publisher Targets University Researchers for "Pirating" Their Own Articles | TorrentFreak -
Heads up. Two is an impossible number, so Elsevier, ASCE, who's next? - RepoRat from Bookmarklet
I vote ACS. - Joe
Mmm, I think they're keeping a low profile at the moment. I'll bet on Taylor and Francis. Does Digimarc have a list of its clients anywhere? - RepoRat
oooooooh, I totally change my bet! HARVARD BUSINESS. - RepoRat
Someone else did this recently...was it NPG? Someone somewhere has decided that its time to take the risk tho... - Cameron Neylon
It was Elsevier. Unless there was another round of this I didn't hear about! - RepoRat
I wonder if that's what this: and this: were about? - Catherine Pellegrino
Heather Piwowar
i don't want to believe jean-claude bradley has died.
I hear you. - RepoRat
nope nope nope nope nope - Meg VMeg
me neither - jambina
Hard to process. - John Dupuis
Me neither. When there was only one source I hoped it had been some horrible mistake but the. It showed up on their chem dept website - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I've been thinking about this all day. What is the best way to commemorate? - Joe
great question, joe. donation to CC in his honour? wikispaces? malaria research? an ONS jean-claude bradley award as part of BMC award suite? - Heather Piwowar
I was going to be doing a panel with Matt Todd and JC on Open Notebooks in Rio in August. That will definitely have some form of dedication. Beyond that? JC definitely believed in the power of prizes to motivate and I can only think that he would have wanted to see something *happen* not just be talked about. - Cameron Neylon
Living on the edge: about to make a second cup of coffee.
you are braver than I. - RepoRat
I just made my second for today. - Steele Lawman
Dang. I'm keeping up with Lawson? This really is foolhardy. ;) - lris
I wonder if it's time for a third... - John (bird whisperer)
Not a competition. Plus I am slowing down a bit in my old age. - Steele Lawman
Also, I am an hour behind you. :) - Steele Lawman
Timezones help...(four coffees and three whiskeys ahead of the lot of you!) - Cameron Neylon
Timezones don't help me THAT much. :) - lris
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