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Awww, that was great. By the way, the song in the video is "Décollage" by Les Balayeurs du Désert, in case some of you were wondering. - Vincent X
they are adorable... - Toby Overstreet
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Cause geeks often look at the world logically and listen to George Carlin. :-) - Robert Scoble
The gods don't scale. - Jack Carlson
side effect of asking lots of tough questions, you start to get some answers that make sense. - Nathan Eckenrode
As a fellow geek we better be sure we're right, because if we are wrong it's gonna be bad. - Blackopsmanners
Blackopsmanners: my idea of hell is being forced to sit next to Jesse Helms for eternity. Of course HIS idea of hell is probably sitting next to me. So, who is in hell? - Robert Scoble
Geeks are generally tech freaks and when you see item after item made by man changing the way your life is lived then it becomes pretty easy to accept that man invented god not the other way around. - Jeff Jones
Geeks are more educated and the more education a person has, the more likely they are to look at our world logically, and choose atheism. - Granteezy via fftogo
I think it has a lot to do with rarely humbling oneself enough to admit that they don't, "know it all" or "have all the answers". It's generally about humility, which geeks tend to have very little of. - Trevor Carpenter
I cannot disagree more Trevor. Atheists are the ones saying "we don't have all the answers". Deity based religions certainly claim to do so. - Jeff Jones
Trevor: Jeff is right. I used to be very religious. I found that most of the people who were religious were not humble at all and weren't able to look at the world without having any answers. Our minds are very strong pattern recognizers. It takes a lot of humility to turn off the pattern recognizer and just accept you don't have the answers. But, this is why I call myself an agnostic. I'm not certain there is not a God. Just like I'm not certain there is one, either. - Robert Scoble
To Jeff and Robert. I certainly can understand what you are saying. However, I separate out the religious from the genuine Christian. The majority of the "religious", including many who clam Christianity, are far from humble. They are generally far from God too. I would not say that those who are legitamately close to God claim to to know it all. In fact, they would say that God knows it all, and we can't know it all. My statement about geeks not being humble is more poking fun than anything else. - Trevor Carpenter
I'm a card-carrying member of a deity based religion as Jeff calls it. Christian is what I am and I certainly don't claim to have all the answers. In fact, I have very few. That's why I need/desire the deity. Right? Sadly, there is an unfortunate number of folks on both (many?) sides of this argument who give their own group a bad rap. I'm just trying to not be one of them. The way I see it, God is the one who created the patterns we're recognizing so I'll accept that He has the answers I need. - Lisa L. Seifert
Trevor: I was in a church of people all of whom considered themselves as "genuine Christian." Part of the problem is that religious people assume they really know what makes someone a "real believer." - Robert Scoble
Thank you, Lisa. - Trevor Carpenter
Lisa: the thing is, anyone who professes to "believe" has already put something in their pattern recognizer that simply isn't there. Or, have you really seen God? But I'm going to beg out of this. I learned in the 1990s that these conversations never convince anyone and just piss people off. So, "Hide" is earned, have fun. - Robert Scoble
Robert. Sure, I know what you're saying. No belief system is worth anything if it in fact doesn't claim to be the "right" way. Without taking this too far...I'm coming from a traditionally reformed, Bible believing worldview. All that to say, Lisa is right. Even those on my team have harmed your view of true Christianity. - Trevor Carpenter
just think of a computer software program that has a certain set of rules....if then statements, etc....then think of DNA and explain...then who set the rules? randomly appeared? - Pokai
You're welcome, Trevor. (For what?) Robert: I'm sad that you're hiding the conversation. Nobody's pissed off. (Yet??) And I'm certainly not reading that anyone is trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply seeing different opinions here. And I like that. As far as seeing God: not in the way I'm assuming you mean. But I see the God-Effect everywhere, not to be confused with the Scoble Effect. ;-) Ocean, Wind, my own body-muscles, bones, blood, organs, blah, blah, blah. Standard argument. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert
I'm with Scoble on this one, hide earned! - Granteezy
thanks lisa, I think we should whip Scoble into the posted 60 foot monster wave (by Mitchell Tsai) and see what happens to his belief system....then he can tell us what happened to George Carlin :) - Pokai
Because few deities are open source. - Craig Thomler
I am of the view that historically and currently that Established Religions are a cause of a lot of Evil in the world and that has always been a major switch off for me about any Church. - David W
pokai, i know you ended with a set of rhetorical questions but what i'm inferring from your tone is that you're drawing a tangent that can't be supported. no one necessarily had to set rules for DNA for them to assemble randomly based upon thermodynamic stability. and then for them to interact with other molecules... - Kambiz Kamrani
because they don't like the fact that there is something they cannot explain? or maybe because they don't like the fact that there is something that is (could be) controlling them? - Timo Zimmermann via twhirl
@ Robert, I think it's unfair to paint whole groups of people as one things or another: muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, et. al which is probably what bothers me most about these discussions. Not the facts of what's right or wrong, but rather the debate normally centers around painting a wide brush across an over-generalized groups of people. see "why are geeks often atheist?" I know a lot of smart people who believe a lot of different things ... - David Adewumi
I think the questions of humility/uncertainty vs. "we know whats best" views of religion can correspond well to the tech world...there are entrepreneurs looking for what has been the missing, the algebraic X, the unknown that hasnt been built yet or thought of (think of major advances like RSS or SNs a la twitter or friend feed...and then there was the aol way of thinking where they thought they could comprehend entirely the social aspects of the web in a closed platform...geek doesnt always = athiest - joshuabacker
One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do. There is very little tolerance of other points of view. Most Christian religions profess tolerance of others and I'm sure their are some groups that do practice this, but I find significant hypocrisy with most religious institutions between what they preach and how the really act. - Jeff P. Henderson
ok kambiz, interesting, but what makes the same genetic material become a frog, dog or human? - Pokai
@Pokai, Mutation. - Jeff P. Henderson
Lisa, I was simply thankful for your comments. They were spot on. - Trevor Carpenter
I really loved this part of the article:The absence of proof does not mean there is no proof at all; but it does give a strong reason to doubt if there is any. Geeks have conditioned themselves to think logically, just as the religious have been conditioned to replace logic with trust in what they are told. What can be extracted from this is that geeks are not atheists simply because they may know "more" but also because they choose to think differently (whether or not they think superiorly is a question for another debate). - Lisa L. Seifert
I agree david. I wonder why intelligence is their defense. - Pokai
pokai, Jeff nails it. but let me clarify one thing -- the same genetic material doesn't necessarily exist in a frog, dog, or human. a frog has a different genome (set of genes) from a dog and a human. these different genes arose through mutations during various biological processes like DNA replication, and gamete production. they are continually evolving by way of natural selection. the frog, dog, human, share a common vertebrate ancestor but they all have diverged from that point into separate species. - Kambiz Kamrani
Continued from previous post: I liked that part for the reminder to keep thinking. I don't ever want to be conditioned to think one thing only whether I'm wearing my Christian hat, my geek hat, my caretaker hat, etc. I don't think we can generalize either way. I agree with David - and with Jeff regarding hypocrisy. It's one reason I hesitate to enter into discussion of beliefs. I know I'm being lumped right now by some of you; but I'd rather try to state my own point of view than sit back and be lumped. - Lisa L. Seifert
I unhid this for a second just to see what direction it went in. I'm hiding again. Some things haven't changed in 10 years, I see. Sigh. See, I used to participate in every religious thread in Visual Basic Programmer's Journal's CompuServe forum (after moving them to that magazine's "OffRamp" which is where we moved stuff that went off topic). The conversations always degenerated just like this one has into calling the other side names. No one ever learns anything. So, Lisa, sorry. I'm getting older I guess - Robert Scoble
than you kamrani and jeff for your clarification, - Pokai
Bye, Robert... Does this mean you won't come to the parties I host at the Ritz once I move to HMB?? ;-) I'm sure I'll get the chance to discuss greater issues such as religion with you at some time when there will be no name-calling. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert
i think scoble just faked hiding, but he is still reading...funny how scoble made the first comment on this post... - Pokai
Oh, no. Do not doubt. Scoble is THE hider. :-) Eventually, he may look back, but he is the best of the hiders. I hide because he has inspired me to do so... Seriously. I always forget about it until he evangelizes it. Then I hide again. - Lisa L. Seifert
@Jeff "One reason the I am turned off by religion is that each one tends to believe that their version is the only version. Some even to the point of professing to kill others that do not believe the way they do." Now replace 'religion' with (culture, style of government, monetary system, nation, state, language, et. al) and you will see this is not an effective argument. See current war in Iraq/Afghanistan for an example. Is that really about religion? - David Adewumi
Up to this point, I can't find one person, on either side of the discussion calling anyone a name. Where are the name-callers? (excluding Lisa's, "Scoble is THE hider.") - Trevor Carpenter
This is a misconception - Alan Wilensky via twhirl
wow, I step away for a night, and look what I miss! - Andrew Badera
FWIW, I was born, christened, raised Roman Catholic. I was even an altar boy, but that was mostly due to the boredom I experienced, sitting in the pews. I don't claim to have all the answers -- I lean more towards labeling myself an agnost than atheist these days -- but I know, quite for certain, that organized religions don't have it any more right than I do. - Andrew Badera
Nobel physics Stephen Hawking: No need the God model - Igor Poltavskiy
Creators of religions (or any influential belief system) are interesting (perhaps as much for their pathologies as anything else). Followers of belief systems created by others are not interesting, at least in that aspect of their lives that is organized around a script that they didn't create. They are sleep walkers. - Sean McBride
First, not all deity-based religions claim to be the right and only way. In fact, Judaism is based on the idea that it is right for Jews and probably not right for anyone else. It's partially because of this sense of exclusivity that probably fuels Antisemitism. Also, when a lot of people say 'religion', they usually mean just Christianity because it's all they know. It's unfair to other religions to be so blindly grouped. - Akiva Moskovitz
I was raised in a Christian household and definitely see HUGE problems with Religion and the "Church" at large. In fact, I am so bothered, I stopped going to church as a result and am routinely offended by the all non-sense/crap espoused by religious groups and church organizations. I believe God exists. I have no unbelief in this regard as I have personally experienced some wonderful spiritual events (2 miracles in fact - 1 documented by dental x-rays). I see tons of fallacies with religion - very sad. - Susan Beebe
Akiva - ethnic nationalist ideologies -- particularly messianic ethnic nationalist ideologies -- are by definition exclusionary, polarizing and a trigger of violent conflict with ethnic outsiders. Universalist religions like Christianity, Islam and Buddhism are largely attempts to overcome the problems and limitations of ethnic nationalism. - Sean McBride
On my good days I'm an agnostic, my bad days an atheist. On the whole all religions try to describe the same thing, make sense of our world and how we should conduct ourselves. I remember being at my Grandmother's funeral (Catholic) and thinking that the words (return to Christ etc) were so comforting ... and it was then that I thought they were wrong. Those words are designed to be comforting and that was by human design IMO. Seek god in your own way and live accordingly - see Stranger in a Strange Land. - AJ Kohn
Where do you get those statistics that geeks are typically athiest? Faith takes courage and conviction. I am a Christian as are many of the riders I know. - Dave Ploch
Sean, last I checked, 'universalism' isn't achieved by oppression, forced conversions, or the outright murdering of people of differing beliefs. Furthermore, Buddhism shouldn't be grouped with Islam and Christianity because Buddhism isn't a proselytizing religion. In fact, I would say that Buddhism and Judaism are more universalist than Christianity and Islam for this very reason. They say, 'You do your thing and we'll do ours.' Not, 'You do our thing or we're coming after you.' - Akiva Moskovitz
Faith mentality: don't question me, don't challenge me, believe and do what I say. Hacker mentality: question everything, challenge everything. Guess which mindset produces the more interesting creative work. - Sean McBride
Akiva: Judaism (especially in its Zionist mode) is an ethnic nationalist ideology or cult organized around the interests of a particular ethnic group. Ethnic nationalism is the direct antithesis of universalism. Buddhism bears little meaningful resemblance to Judaism or religious Zionism. Christianity and Islam have committed many crimes over the ages, that is true. Aggressive fanaticism and intolerance seem to be central features of nearly all monotheistic/Abrahamic cults. - Sean McBride
I don't want to seem ignorant or prejudiced, but is Judaism not highly non-universalist? Laws against marrying non-Jews etc. - Alexander Carlill
Alexander, the best way I can put it is how a Rabbi once put it to me: 'It's better to be a righteous non-Jew than to be a non-righteous Jew.' In other words, Judaism prefers people to follow a different religion that is better suited to them rather than be forced to become Jewish. To me, that's more universal. Live and let live. - Akiva Moskovitz
Sean, and there it is. I'm ringing the bell. - Akiva Moskovitz
Alexander: Judaism is intensely ethnocentric at the core, but various currents in the Jewish tradition have tried to move in a more universalist direction -- Reform Judaism, Reconstructionist Judaism, secular Jewish movements (how about Einstein?), etc. Notice how much of the Old Testament revolves around wars between "Israel" and other ethnic/nationalist groups ("the nations") -- it's the dominant motif of much of the Bible. - Sean McBride
Akiva: I see. I'm going to stick with atheism for the foreseeable future, but I think I'm relatively righteous... Thanks for the info. - Alexander Carlill
Alexander, oops, yep. I should've written 'a different religion, agnosticism, or atheism.' I did not in any way mean to imply that only religious people can be righteous. The two, sadly, are sometimes mutually exclusive which is something Judaism seeks to avoid. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- to which branch of Judaism are you referring? Some factions are incredibly intolerant; others are the soul of tolerance. Some of Israel's chief rabbis have made public statements that are extremely intolerant towards various ethnic and religious groups (including towards other Jewish religious factions). One finds the same problems in the Christian and Muslims worlds -- fundamentalist voices of intolerance often drown out more reasonable voices. See, for instance, John Hagee on Roman Catholicism. - Sean McBride
Sean, how about not hijacking this post to yet again aggressively espouse your opinions on Judaism (and Israel)? - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- has the discussion suddenly become too sensitive for you in some way? You sound like you'd like to censor it. Let me ask again: which branch of Judaism are you referring to here? Orthodox? Conservative? Reform? Reconstructionist? Seems like a perfectly reasonable question. Also, a great deal of Christian fundamentalism in America revolves around Israel, does it not? Bush reportedly started a disastrous war in Iraq largely because of his religious beliefs. Iran may be next. - Sean McBride
Sean, it's very clear that you have a bone to pick and you can chase me around FriendFeed until your Keds fall apart but I am not going to feed your hunger. Thus, reasonable or not, I am not answering your questions. You seem only to be interested in answers that can fuel your soapbox, anyway. If this makes you feel superior or victorious, that's fine. That's a delusion I will lose no sleep over. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you haven't replied in a rational way to a single particular point I've raised here -- your responses have been emotional. And this is very typical behavior for religionists of all kinds -- they have difficulty handling a rational discussion about non-rational beliefs. Judaism is a very complex subject -- the tradition includes numerous competing and contradictory factions. Overgeneralizing about Judaism, Christianity and Islam is an intellectual error, in my opinion. - Sean McBride
Actually, my responses have been very rational. I'm just addressing your motives and not your points. You just can't seem to understand the fact that you are not entitled to someone's answers just because you ask them questions. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- you're addressing motives, and not the substantive points being addressed in this thread? That is not how reasonable people conduct rational discussions and debates. If you can't handle logical, factual and civil challenges to your beliefs, probably public discussion forums aren't a favorable medium for you. :) For others here, I will simply reiterate: there are several strains of Judaism, some extremely intolerant, some very tolerant. This is a fact known to any serious student of world religions. - Sean McBride
Ah, more smug responses with implied insults. Gotta love the Internet. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva -- a simple question: is Judaism a monolithic tradition (as you have implied), or is it a diverse and self-contradictory tradition? Do the ultra-Orthodox agree with Reform Jews? Do the ultra-Orthodox even agree with one another? (They do not.) No wonder geeks and hackers for the most part try to steer clear of religious squabbling and wars! -- it tends to be a real energy-waster. - Sean McBride
Akiva: I wasn't accusing you of implying anything, merely commenting on my own situation. So no need to apologise. - Alexander Carlill
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For comparison, this morning I flew a 767 with 40 tons of freight 3100 miles and burned 10,000 gallons of fuel. That comes out to around 12.4 ton-miles per gallon. - Chris Johnson
So, hopping a freight is going to be the new hip thing? How does this compare to passenger trains? - ⓞnor
Since the 436mpg number is total ton-miles divided by total gallons of fuel used by the industry, a gallon of diesel can haul a ton of freight far more than 436 miles. - Gabe Schaffer
Wow, that wikipedia page is very interesting -- cars, trains, planes, and buses are surprisingly similar, though the passenger number for buses seems kind of low. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F... - Paul Buchheit
Passenger trains are much less efficient than freight because they have to expend a lot of energy going faster and providing power for lights and A/C. Still, trains are the most efficient form of passenger transport (2100 BTU/passenger mile vs. 3182 for airplanes) in this country. - Gabe Schaffer
Wikipedia says vanpools and motorcycles are both more efficient than rail. (I wonder how many passenger-miles per gallon a zeppelin gets...) Maybe a lot of cities run near-empty buses along many routes, and that pushes down the occupancy (and efficiency) numbers? - ⓞnor
I suspect that vanpools are so efficient because they just use a full van to transport a bunch of people from point A to point B rather, so they are generally full and have direct routes. - Gabe Schaffer
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Mississippi is fattest, Colorado is the leanest - Jess Lee via Bookmarklet
This data set *so* needs to be a cartogram. - ⓞnor
They definitely paid a visit to my neighbors. Go Texas! - Carla Thompson
Wow, Colorado is significantly lower than all the others. Any ideas why? - Jim Norris
This was posted separately and there was quite a bit of discussion about it. The Coloradans basically said that outdoor physical activity is a major part of the culture there. - ⓞnor
I say the thin air squeezes the fat out of them. - Steve Craft
Mean elevation: CO 6800ft, UT 6100ft, NM 5692ft, MT 3396ft, MS 300ft... - ⓞnor
Wow that was kinda cool to see - Blackopsmanners
This is obese - I don't even want to see "overweight." Colorado is the only state where it's not a granted that 1 out of 5 is obese (though by the looks of things, the average is 1 out of 4). Does this include children? Pre-edit: clicked on the article - the overweight numbers are amazing. I'm certainly in these categories - I must disclose. - Vince DeGeorge
cool chart - looks like our primary home (ct) is #3 & secondary (vt) is #5 :) - mike "glemak" dunn
Like we always said back in Arkansas, thank god for Mississippi and Louisiana or we'd always finish last! - Jesse Hattabaugh
I loved visiting Japan, where people seem to be healthily thin. It's very sad the changes since I was in high school. At a pediatric obesity presentation at Stanford, they showed a slideshow of obesity/state over the past 25 years, and it was really sad to see the whole country become fatter & fatter. An Economist issue from the past year shows that it's a worldwide trend - poor & rich countries... People were so much thinner when I was in high school. :-( - Mitchell Tsai
Here's an animated version from 1985 to 2001. Look at 2:20 to 2:41: http://www.ted.com/index.php/t... - Simon
Wow. A third of the state? Even 20% is pretty high considering the health risks associated with obesity. Yikes. - Mandi
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July 3 at 10:10 am - Link
Nice read. Some very interesting points on rapid development with limited budget, time, and resources. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
The problem with building a web app in 4 days is that you are 4 days away from your nearest competitor:) - John Kotsaftis via feedalizr
@John Kotsaftis: +1 - Don MacAskill
I hate to be cynical, but their ratio of two developers to six bloggers/copywriters/PR peeps sounds about right. When your product is a commodity, marketing makes all the difference. - Jake
@John Kotsaftis: +2 - xavier vespa
Excellent points John and Jake! - Kambiz Kamrani
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LAist: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone
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"There is an initiative in the works that could end up on the November ballot that allows for marijuana to be sold to anyone, and anywhere that already sells alcohol. Its being called The Inalienable Rights Enforcement Initiative. From the full text of the measure: This initiative will amend the Constitution of California to defend and safeguard the inalienable rights of the People against infringement by governments and corporations, providing for the lawful growth, sale, and possession of marijuana. Marijuana will be taxed through a system of stamps and licenses--a $5 stamp will be required for the sale of an eighth ounce of marijuana and a $50 annual license will be required for the growth of one marijuana plant. To protect participants and encourage participation in the system, such licenses and stamps will be available anonymously in stores where marijuana is sold." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
Like I don't have enough weeds already - does this mean that TrueGreen won't come and kill the weeds anymore? Sigh - Phillip J. Zannini via twhirl
I guess it's time to buy up Frito-Lay stock - Gabe Schaffer
there is hope... my dutch heart is jumping. - minus3
This story keeps showing up and I keep liking it. - Larry Kless
Need to figure out how to get a hold of Christopher Springer, the proponent of this proposition to talk about helping in a grass roots effort to get the signatures necessary to get this on the ballet. Anyone know how to contact the guy? - Thomas Hawk
"Grass" roots effort? Ha, I get it! - Gabe Schaffer
Alex "Can I take off my headphones around here for ONE SECOND without hearing the phrase 'smoking a bowl'?" Payne over at Twitter is now shopping for more comfortable headphones. - Karim
Like "grass roots effort" - j1m
Karim: LMAO. - Parth Awasthi
WAIT ... WHAT? Smoking ban hits Amsterdam's marijuana coffee shopshttp://simpl.es/TYLA13 - Alex Andrek
besides knowing a number of people who have already probably started to pack their bags.... all I know is that if it passes, I'd love to see the statistics... the increase in revenue based on taxes and tourism should be nice - nick carrasco
I'd love to see what the Feds do about this. As I understand it, Federal law would still make it illegal. - Gabe Schaffer
California would make a pretty good country by itself. Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Central Valley, Lake Tahoe, and San Francisco. Arnold Schwarzenegger could even be president here. :) - Chris White
Chris: I don't know about Tahoe. California and Nevada might have to go to war over it, like Pakistan and India fighting over Kashmir. - Gabe Schaffer
that secession thinking was here and there while reading this thread... guys, pass that what you smoke there, huh? :) - silpol
"going to california in my mind" :-) - Slippy Lane
In other news, Starbucks announced a new line of Space Cakes™ and Hemppuccinos™ to be available in 2009, only in California. - Karim
Meanwhile, the FDA is killing you LEGALLY. - Thomas T. Panto
I'm with Gabe...it's a Federally controlled substance so it will be interesting to see how it pans out if it passes.....hmmm maybe I should lobby for my home state to outlaw Fedral Income tax! :) LOL - Rob Neville via twhirl
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How to order pizza from Domino's by using the command line
June 9 at 5:24 am - Link
haha.. the definition of excessive. - Stefan Hayden
seen it before, but still awesome. i think everything should be done via command line. - Chris Harris
This is great for those of us who hate human interaction and dislike the bright colors of the web-based ordering systems. - Glen Campbell
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Fooled by Randomness: The Hidden Role of Chance in Life and in the Markets
June 30 at 1:47 am - Link
Cover is great. - 59mm
I read that several years ago and it really moved me, both by Taleb's personal stories and by his "black swan" idea. - Fred Yankowski
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"Form the possessive singular of nouns with 's.   Follow this rule whatever the final consonant. Thus write,   Charles's friend..." - Jim Norris
Jesus is my exception - Ana
Chris' opinion is that 's should not follow s. - Chris White
I am fond of just the ' after a final s. So, +1 to Chris' opinion :) - Jennie Lin
It seems like people with an s at the end of their name dislike the 's and prefer just the apostrophe... Myself included... How does one go about requesting a grammar change? - Ross Miller
But surely you pronounce it "Chris-is opinion is that...", so why not spell it that way? - ⓞnor
Because I said. It's my name with my s, so I get to say. :) You don't see me dictating how @ is pronounced. - Chris White
I hereby grant you irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive license to pronounce, spell, and punctuate ⓞ however you like. So there. - ⓞnor
Don't let this info get out Jim, as an English major in a tech field you're endangering my job security. Composing a sentence makes me a Golden God here. - Steve Craft
I'm going to start calling you "ⓞ⊽" - Jim Norris
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Bret Taylor posted a message
You can now expand Likes to see all the people who liked an entry
June 18 at 8:45 pm - Link
great! - K.D.
Once enough people "like" this entry, the demo will come with the post :) - Bret Taylor
Awesome! Great feature guys! - Hutch Carpenter
Thank you! - Robert Seidman
I am doing my part to contribute. - Louis Gray
Weird, doesn't seem to work in Fluid. Clicking the link quickly shows the loading circle on the right, then does nothing. Works fine in Safari 3.1, though. - Mark Trapp
Liked just so people see my name when they test it out. - DeWitt Clinton
awesomesauce! able to see it in action now. nicely done! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
always wanted to know who the others were - BCK
Yay! Wasn't this enabled a few months ago too? - J. Phil
Nice! - Evan Sims
What is the sort order before and after expanded? - Andrew Smith
Andrew: it puts people you are subscribed to first, but reverse ordered by the time of like other than that. - Bret Taylor
awesomeness! - Thomas Hawk
I notice another change. "You" is the first name listed for all the things I've liked in the past. Even those where I haven't clicked on the expand Likes link. This wasn't previously the case. A bit of work on the Likes sort methodology? - Hutch Carpenter
Noticed that too, Hutch: do you think it's sorting based on order of likes now? Obviously, with "You" always being first and outside the order. - Mark Trapp
Mark - definitely putting "you" out front is a change. I still don't know the basis for ranking the other Likes. Maybe the guys will comment here. Or blog it. - Hutch Carpenter
Great new features everyday! - Aaron Myers
Hutch/Mark: Bret already said how it's ordered. :P - Daniel Bruce
Ah, I see it. That'll teach me to respond to a specific comment before reading the entire thread! - Mark Trapp
@Daniel - ah...so there it is. Thanks. - Hutch Carpenter
woot, don't need the script anymore - Andrew Dobrow
I like this addition. Clean, intuitive, simple, perfect. - Tsega D
a long list of names isn't too useful; why dont you bold the ones that are my friends? - peter
peter: all your friends are listed first. - Bret Taylor
More recent likes come first, so as new friends "Like" things, you see them. - Bret Taylor
Peter, bolding is a great idea, not just here, but in general. It would be an easy way to find friends that you have not yet subscribed to. - Scott Beale
+1 for bolding names that I'm already subscribed to. - Mike Doeff
I tweaked the sort order to put "you" first, but apparently I forgot to tell Bret. - Jim Norris
nice touch - Steven Hodson
fantastic - فرزاد ف
Like about "Like" :) - Igor Poltavskiy
friendfeed keeps listening to the feedback - Dobromir Hadzhiev
thankyou - Duncan Riley
Would be nice if you could collapse them again. - Alex Mendes da Costa
I'd like to second that. It would be great if I could collapse them again. - David Adam
Alex, David - Refreshing the page will do that for you. - Slippy Lane
awesome! - Sarah Perez
Another greasemonkey script bites the dust - Shey
Indeed Shey, http://ffapps.com/showlikes/ is no longer required. Seeing a list of people who liked a particular entry is a great way to explore and discover users who share similar interests. - Aviv
چه قدر سریع,ایده اش همین صبح مطرح شد,اسمایلی جیمبووووووووووووووووووو:))ه - shandiz
Expanding shows a lot of Likes up in this post! - Joe Dawson
دم جناب برت گرم! واقعا داره زحمت میکشه :) - امین
wow. Nice! - felix
Yay, my nick is in the screenshot, and now it's in the demo. :D - possible248
Is this the most liked post of all time? - Mike Reynolds
Is this in the API? - Yuvi
Mike - This one has "and 213 other people". http://friendfeed.com/e/f3782a... - Russellreno
Excellent improvement guys! - Mark Dykeman
I Like this feature and see that 208 other people do too!! Thanks Bret and team! - Susan Beebe
now I need a feature that permits me to "be-friend" all of them that 'liked' a post. :)- - Peter Dawson
Fantastic. One step closer to not needing Greasemonkey at all. - Cyvros/fyc
FriendFeed
Mitch Wagner posted a link
Teach the Controversy tees illustrate other important "scientific controversies" - Boing Boing
June 17 at 4:47 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
I love the devil burying the dino bones. That kicks ass. - Tad Donaghe
hmm, interesting I posted that to FFFFound about 4 hours ago - clarke thomas
I like the UFOs buzzing the pyramid. - Mitch Wagner
FriendFeed
Dan Hsiao posted a link
The 50 Best Pun Stores (Best Week Ever)
The 50 Best Pun Stores (Best Week Ever)
The 50 Best Pun Stores (Best Week Ever)
June 6 at 11:54 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
My all-time favorite was a van I saw in Berkeley from a company that deals in Peruvian owls called "Inca Hoots" - Kevin Fox
Deals in Peruvian owls? - ⓞnor
Egnor: your guess is as good as mine. :-) Maybe the van was painted up solely for the pun? - Kevin Fox
Maybe the whole business was based solely on the pun. - Chris Johnson
there's a store in seattle called "what the pho" makes me laugh every time i passed it - Juliet Hsu
I've always wanted to start a restaurant called "Phở Queue" - Jim Norris
I still can't bring myself to pronounce pho the supposedly correct way. - ⓞnor
in Las Vegas, there is Pho Kim Long - Pokai
ⓞnor: what the pho? - j1m
Blog
michael arrington posted an entry on TechCrunch
June 4 at 2:55 pm - Link
Didn't Loopt recently some sort of "best mobile social network" award, as well? - Steve Lynch via Alert Thingy
Twitter
michael arrington posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Mihai Parparita posted a message on Twitter
Google Reader
felix shared an item on Google Reader
June 3 at 11:23 am - Link
"Our render workers are totally “dumb”. They’re literally bare-bones CentOS 5 AMIs (you can build your own, or use RightScale’s, or whatever you’d like) with a single extra script on them which is executed from /etc/rc.d/rc.local. What does that script do? It fetches intelligence." This is a fantastically cool real world use of EC2/S3. - felix
FriendFeed
Mitch Wagner posted a link
You Just Don’t Leave Certain Groups « FAIL Blog - Fail Pictures at Failblog.ORG
May 29 at 12:51 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Should have left the name on there ha! - Joe Dawson
Thanks for the awesome find that is Fail blog... - Chris Reed
Gmail/Google Talk
Louis Gray had a new status message on Gmail/Google Talk
May 23 at 3:49 pm - Link
I know i would never click a banner. Now if they redirected all that traffic :-) - Mike Fruchter
Good idea!!!!!!!! - Joe Dawson
I doubt Twitter would welcome ads for Jaiku and Pownce on their 'we're not working right now' page... :-) - Kevin Fox
Title: Twitter's Secret Monetization Plan - Eric Florenzano
maybe a 302 temp redirect to friendfeed, people need to communicate what do u know - Dobromir Hadzhiev via twhirl
Now if someone hacked the Something is Wrong page to redirect to FF, that would be something - Kevin Bondelli
That page should just re-direct users to FriendFeed automatically....save me a click! - Susan Beebe
"Looking for Something is Technically Wrong? Try www.xyzzy.com" "Something is Technically Wrong - now 50% off!!! (click here)" "Something is Technically Wrong - Now with FREE SHIPPING" "Discount on Something is Technically Wrong, no prescription required" "Widest Selection on Something is Technically Wrong" "Something is Technically Wrong - Safe, Proven, Guaranteed Quality" "50+ Flavors of Something is Technically Wrong to choose from - Factory Direct" - Karim
some kind of homeostatic equilibrium. if they're down, they make gazillions and buy new servers. then they're up and continue to grow until the new downtime... - benedikt
Here is my Twitter 404 page http://tinyurl.com/4b63s4 - Kevin Bondelli
LOL Kevin, that is *genius.* - Karim
Kevin that is to funny! - Mike Fruchter
Kevin's page FTW. - Dana Franks via twhirl
I am waiting for a phone call from Twitter trying to hire me to do their 404s from now on. I think I'll be waiting for a while. - Kevin Bondelli
And just like that a new business model was born - Marco
@Kevin As long as you're not waiting for a *tweet* with a job offer... - benedikt
@benedikt Touche. Maybe I should start a "Potential Twitter Employees" FF room. - Kevin Bondelli
you have it! I miss my comment ! - SteJules via twhirl
Now why didn't I think of that? - Shawn Kirsch
Kevin, I like that idea. I'm sure that room would be bustling in a week or two. - Ryne Nelson
Ryne, maybe we could use this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms/jo... - benedikt
lol. Good one. - Geoff Longman