"SuRF is an Object Oriented - RDF Mapper based on the popular rdflib python library. It exposes the RDF triple sets as sets of resources and seamlessly integrates them into the Object Oriented paradigm of python in a similar manner as ActiveRDF does for ruby." Highlights and Sticky Notes: SuRF is an Object Oriented - RDF Mapper based on the popular rdflib python library. It exposes the RDF triple sets as sets of resources and seamlessly integrates them into the Object Oriented paradigm of python in a similar manner as ActiveRDF does for ruby. Tags: python semantic programming diy Posted by: marcell
- marcell mars
Overall I like FriendFeed better. Threaded conversations are easier to follow, you can comment on anything pulled into FriendFeed, you can have discussion rooms (& private rooms).
- josh neff, geek at large
Yeah, I can see that making sense. I feel kind of badly that everything I do on twitter comes into FF, even when it's...kind of irrelevant. :/
- Rochelle Mazar
It's all about the community. My local network is on Twitter, so I enjoy it more. I connect with librarians on friendfeed, though so that's my "mode" when I'm here. It's less about the interface for me, and more about the connections. (Primarily)
- ɥsıuɐʎɹ
To me it feels like trying to compare apples to apple pie. Twitter is cool, and has its fans. Friendfeed combines the cool of twitter with a bunch of other ingredients to make something else. They're both awesome and tasty, but it depends a lot on what you want.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Still learning about friendfeed - but like Twitter better currently due to apps that let me read twitter in my Gmail window.
- celticlibrarian
I prefer the World Wide Web as a tool. It's got so many features - especially services like "Google," "twitter" and "friendfeed" that help me connect with so many people and ideas. :)
- ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Twitter is simpler. They broke replies recently which can be a good reason to move to FriendFeed, but otherwise I find myself using Twitter more than FF.
- Uldis Bojars
A part of the reason pro using Twitter is its great application ecosystem. For example, Twitterrific for iPhone/iPod touch provides very good user experience. Can anyone recommend an iPhone application for FriendFeed which provides the same level of functionality and aesthetics?
- Uldis Bojars
FF does allow the option of hiding "types" of a friend's feeds, so you do have the option of hiding say, all of a person's delicious feeds but keeping the others available to you. I prefer Twitter to FF myself, largely b/c that's where my friends are.
- mita
Strong opinion? Maybe not. Twitter didn't work for me, but that was more than a year ago. FF currently does work for me. "For me" is a key here. (Maybe I'm verbose? 140 words is 500% more than 140 characters.)
- Walt Crawford
Twitter vs. Friendfeed: 1. Friendfeed is good for conversations. 2. Friendfeed has a relatively small user base and its growth seems have been stalled for some time. 3. Many Friendfeed conversations tend to be shallow; most of the best minds out there in the real world aren't Friendfeed users. 3. Twitter feels more dynamically diverse than Friendfeed, and less ingrown and cliquish. 4....
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- Sean McBride
Just noticed again: a page of Twitter blows away a page of Friendfeed for useful news. 20 really strong news items per page, easy to absorb almost instantly. 5 seconds of scanning, and I am much better informed about the world. If one wants to discuss a Twitter item, just push it over to Friendfeed.
- Sean McBride
Given the, um, neutral nature of Sean's comments, it's worth pointing out that both of them far exceed Twitter's limits. ("Most of the best minds out there" may not be Twitter users either...)
- Walt Crawford
Many very smart people, like Tim O'Reilly and Jack Welch, hang out on Twitter You need to know how to find them. Regarding the character limit: I often post my tweets from Friendfeed. :) Another feature in Friendfeed's favor. As I said: use them in tandem for best results.
- Sean McBride
I agree with Sean as far as using them in tandem for best results.
- Laura Norvig
My blogging isn't directly affected by my use of FriendFeed - it has increased for other reasons - but I have found that in some cases I share things via FriendFeed rather than blogging about them.
- John E. Bredehoft
microblogging and social networking should never replace someone's blog. if anything, ive been trying to blog MORE (keyword: trying) :)
- Violet Mae Lim
The same. I never really used the blog for quick updates. I ramble and micro-blogging so can't handle that. :) Nor would I want it to.
- ♥patricia♥
I suspected it would be the same or more. Esp. since it should not be easier to get more traffic to your blog?
- Bindu Reddy
a bit less. not happy about that, either.
- MikeAmundsen
I blog less now, but I'm not sure it's tied to FriendFeed. In fact, I get a lot of traffic FROM FriendFeed. It's more due to working more, less free time, etc.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Way less. To the point of not blogging at all.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm like Jandy. I blog in spurts at the moment, simply due to being busy with other stuff. Which is why I love having Twitter and Tumblr because it allows me to make quick microblog entries when I feel like I need to say something. When my time frees up, I'll blog more regularly. To me, FF is like a conversation with friends while blogging is storytime at the public library.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
+1 Akiva. I wasn't a super prolific blogger to begin with, but my social networks offered a lot more interactivity than my blog did, so I don't post on my blog so much anymore. It'd be one thing if I got more comments on my blog, then I'd feel more motivated. As it is, it seems like I'm blogging to no one. :P
- Cheryl Jones
Yep. Gotta go with the growing consensus here. I'd like to blog more, but don't really do it at all anymore.
- Steve Lowe
Less. I barely have enough time to keep up with FF as is.
- ronin
Less, I use the blog to hit key points but the other services to share more.
- Brandon Mendelson
If you can't say it in 140 characters or less, it should be blogged instead.
- Nick Humphries
I never blogged very frequently; I like conversations more than blogging. So I've always been more active on Usenet, blog comments, forums, chat, what have you, than on my own blog. (Also, I decided early on not to use my blog as a link archive, so I've had to channel that impulse to the aforementioned venues.)
- Andrew C
I'm thinking I might start posting most everything to my blog, where my post notifications are forward to FF via Twitter. I can monitor any resulting conversations on FF via the real time FF widget.
- Christopher A Carr
To clarify, I'm thinking I'll post everything of any substance at all to my blog, while using FF only for "likes," and for pulling in "favorites" and "wish list" entries from Youtube and Amazon and the like, and for pulling in Tweets. This way, I'll feel less compelled to differentiate between blog entries and substantive FF posts by way of making the former much longer. This should fatten up the blog. With the real time FF widget in the blog, I'm thinking this will be a nice little arrangement.
- Christopher A Carr
This is an interesting development. Recently Google search results also started to display richer information about forum and bulletin board posts. For example: "Weblogs Forum - What about a decorator module version 3.0?" - 5 posts - Last post: Dec 3, 2008 - http://www.artima.com/forums... Does anyone here know when it was introduced and point to more info on how it works? (My guess: it scrapes HTML of forum pages to find semi-structured information about number of posts and their creation date. Unless a forum is already mirrored as a Google Group.)
- Uldis Bojars
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Did Google Just Expose Semantic Data in Search Results? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... either everyone I asked has missed this or it's huge and new
Yikes. I remember reading, a long time ago, that a Google team in manhattan was working on revolutionizing structured information. Anyway, not much to say. I can only hope that they fall asleep and end up behind us all ;) Too much to ask? maybe... Marshall, one small correction: tripple --> triple
- Aldo Bucchi
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
They could be parsing infoboxes in wikipedia or Freebase data. Would be good to check if that's the case (which is pretty much what Powerset was doing too)
- Deepak Singh
mndoci we did check and though in some cases they are doing that, it appears that's not in every case. see the source, for example, on the oregon capital search above
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
from IM
I have not seen this before and it does look like a trial semantic structure. Odd that it isn't leveraging Freebase data.
- AJ Kohn
That is pretty huge. And typically the way they do it (silently releasing new features).
- Laura Norvig
By the way, the Jesus example supports the semantic structure. Chris Ferguson is well known as Jesus in poker circles.
- AJ Kohn
"what is the weather in Brooklyn" vs "brooklyn weather" - guess which query will give you structured results. It's the latter one. I'm not quite sure Google has gone semantic but it has gone structured from time to time.
- Allan Benamer
from twhirl
I've always felt that semantic web search is a lousy business to be in exactly for this reason. If there's any real value for consumers there (and I guess there is), then why does people think anybody other than Google will own that market just as they own traditional search? Google will be the semantic search engine of the future for 3 reasons: 1) They can: they have the money to build...
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- Simone
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
This is an interesting development. Recently Google search results also started to display richer information about forum and bulletin board posts. For example: "Weblogs Forum - What about a decorator module version 3.0?" - 5 posts - Last post: Dec 3, 2008 - http://www.artima.com/forums... Does anyone here know when it was introduced and point to more info...
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- Uldis Bojars
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
this post is a repeat of a similar message from yesterday. but I just can't stop being excited about discovering the fullscreen mode in MacVIM. makes a huge difference, especially for those of us who can easily get distracted.
- Uldis Bojars
Bleh. Sounds a lot like Calacanis and his "I don't blog" line. If you have 100,000 people clamoring to talk to you then there's less need to read feeds or to post on a blog. Props to people like Scoble who get out there and talk to people anyway.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Genius: "I just go to site that I like. I’ve found it more satisfying and it slows me down. I’m less news/information junky now which is a good thing." We couldn't be less on the same page. File this under couldn't be less interesting.
- Sean McBride
One day, maybe I can turn off the news hose. One day.
- Rex Hammock
I gave up RSS about 6 months ago or so. It's liberating. Socially filtered content through sites like FriendFeed is vastly more interesting. Your time is a zero sum game. Wasting time on RSS means you can't get the best of what else the web has to offer.
- Thomas Hawk
I inject myself with BBC/NYTimes, etc. once in a while via google reader, and personal friend's blogs are still RSS. Socially filtered does help, but not 100%
- anna sauce
Thomas Hawk - I use Google Reader (and RSS feeds) to scan and read Friendfeed much more efficiently. GR increases my leverage over FF by a factor of at least 100.
- Sean McBride
I swear the world is turning Republican. Next thing we're going to hear is how only the Media Elite read the news anymore, or I get all the news I need on Sunday in church. And btw, what is evolution again? Does it always go forward or does it sometimes go in reverse? :-)
- Dave Winer
And btw, fyi Thomas -- there's a lot of RSS in FF. Just a thought for your day.
- Dave Winer
I couldn't live or do my job without it.
- Steve Rubel
I am using Google Reader to bookmark interesting feeds. Not actually reading them. But it is good to know that they are there in case if I get extra free time to do some feed reading (never happens, though).
- Uldis Bojars
This makes one wonder - what % of readers reported by Google Reader, Feedburner, etc. are actually reading the feeds as opposed to just downloading them.
- Uldis Bojars
@capstsolo Would love to see some overall metrics around how engaged readers are with their feeds. Newsgator is doing this with APML.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Jason Freed is just one person. It means nothing. We need stats. Plus facebook users get RSS maybe without realising it. That is cool use of RSS. I don't use a reader anymore. I use iGoogle (I have about 100 feeds in there)and twice a week feedly (300+ feeds)
- DC Crowley
To each his own. My feed reader is my primary news source, and as DC points out, one data point does not a fact make
- Deepak Singh
Dave, I stand corrected. I certainly do access RSS through FriendFeed. My statement was more directed at traditional RSS readers than RSS itself per se.
- Thomas Hawk
Steve, why not just create imaginary friend accounts for the RSS feeds that you just can't live without inside of FF? You could even put them into a separate list called "Steve's RSS?"
- Thomas Hawk
@Thomas Hawk - Good call with lists for RSS Feeds. I've had some imaginary friends for a while but hadn't thought it through to that point.
- elroy
I am reasonably new on the RSS bandwagon (only about 6 mths) but I can see what Jason is getting at. If you have to go out of your way to get the info, you are more likely to value it and less likely to get distracted. But on the other hand readers make it a lot more efficient to process and filter information quickly.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
We need something like this now that 'I don't own a television' isn't so radical anymore.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
The full potential of RSS feeds has barely been tapped. In the future, RSS (or an evolutionary variant) may well provide the framework for managing all of your daily information flow, in all departments. Advanced recommender systems and personal assistants will dynamically prioritize and reprioritize the flow of feed items based on your behavior. AI-based machine experts in various domains will collect and process huge flows of information from RSS feeds.
- Sean McBride
@Thomas: I've just stripped some of the loudest voices out of my gReader and put them into FF lists of imaginary friends. Good tip!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
FF's "Like" is not an appropriate term for information such as this. Let's just say in this case it means bumping this up as an important topic.
- Uldis Bojars
Joelle: it comes from India, as i understand. can't boast that we caught it ourselves but it looked interesting enough to try to find out what it is. the fishmonger did not know what's the name of it either.
- Uldis Bojars
"In this article you’ll find out what is a link bait, what types of link baits are there and how to plan and write the perfect link bait blog post"
- Alex Cristache
I have a hard time believing this one (no offense Hutch!). The ADHD-like personality requirements to be a "social media a-lister" are almost mutually exclusive with the focus it takes to effectively run big companies (obviously a generalization, so don't apply it to everyone/company!).
- Jeremy Toeman
Fair enough Jeremy. But I don't think you need the always-on element. What information workers do regularly is create, brainstorm and research. ALL of that represents ingredients for what will make the internal collaboration work. Right now, all that good info work is made available inside companies where...?
- Hutch Carpenter
I would suggest that many of the people Hutch cites are already making an impact in the companies they are at today.
- Louis Gray
Aren't corporate and industry leaders renowned for being big thinkers with unusually long attention spans and large fields of vision? And don't they tend to obsess on particular long-range projects?
- Sean McBride
Here's a chance to check out the PollDaddy integration too. (Man, not enough time in a day!) Nice job Hutch
- Charlie Anzman
The other side of the argument: when technology and culture are changing at a very rapid pace, a short attention span and an ability to turn on a dime in the face of new ideas and innovation can provide a competitive advantage. But executing ideas successfully requires patience, concentration and focus -- the ability to bear down hard on a single idea. Social media can be more a distraction than a help, depending on who is using the medium.
- Sean McBride
But you don't turn on a dime based on how you feel at that moment. You turn on a dime taking -everything- into consideration. That big-picture view is what makes such a turn effective.
- abacab
"This project aims to create an XML standard for web forums data as well as a suite of exporters and importers for common software to allow the transportation of data between installations."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
You can find info on who's using SIOC by searching for "SIOC-o-Sphere" (http://tinyurl.com/5uk8g6). As an example, SearchMonkey supports use of SIOC data.
- Uldis Bojars
aww. Stick with it, it's changed how I bookmark (or not) completely.
- Ian Davis
turns out you can not switch its new behavious off. at least not easily. but there are extensions which at least fix its look-n-feel. am using one now. but it still uses the new algorithm and there is a possibility I will learn how to better use it.
- Uldis Bojars
Sorry, can't agree as a Russian and it is depressing to see everyone repeating the same version without even trying to listen to both sides :(
- Svetlana Gladkova
Yes, actually Georgia invaded Ossetia. They started the whole thing first
- Maria Podolyak
Maria, the problem is we won't make anyone believe it here simply because people tend to believe what the news outlets tell them. The main problem is no one is even willing to believe it can be otherwise.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
Svetlana apologies, the news is much clearer and yes Georgia were the aggressor.
- sam sethi
Both sides are at fault here (Georgia launched its attack after people were killed by rebels supported by Russia), and Russia seems to be taking pleasure in escalating the conflict.
- Uldis Bojars
Cold War 2.0 as someone said yesterday with the CIA in the shadows
- sam sethi
from Alert Thingy
Sam: Yes, I have noticed that the news in the UK are somewhat more balanced now but unfortunately it's not the same in the US and it just infuriates me.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
Uldis: Russia seems to be taking pleasure in trying to restore peace in the region.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
Svetlana: I would certainly hope that is so. At the same time but Russia's military actions of past days were also under the slogan "we are restoring peace in the region". BBC News reports that there is still presence of Russian tanks and looting by militias going on in Gori.
- Uldis Bojars
Uldis: I am sorry but what is the US position in Iraq and Afganistan? Are not they restoring peace in the regions?
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
Svetlana: True, these events share similar patterns. Big, powerful countries restoring peace outside their borders. Let's hope there will be peace. (BTW, you have a good point about a need to listen to both sides of the story. One-sided coverage is never good.)
- Uldis Bojars
Uldis: Thank you for your understanding of the point, this is the most important thing I am trying to explain here: no one will probably know the truth about the situation but it is important to try and understand before jumping to conclusions.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
Interesting that Russia declares a cease fire then continues to attack Georgian villages...
- Jason Carreira
should have said "keep finding conversations in FF". i am checking both FF and Twitter's "reply" tab, but FF has more conversations and they are fun. (actually, makes sense because "replies" tab only shows replies to me while FF shows conversations that friends are engaged in too)
- Uldis Bojars
I have 34 tabs open at this very moment. Isn't that just outrageous? The funny thing is that probably 3/4ths of them don't need to be opened.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
Holy crap. If I have more than five, I start to feel cluttered. (Oh, and right now I have one tab open but I'm not going to tell you what it is.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
I finally chopped it down from 34 to 14. Although I have FriendFeed running in an SSB, so it is actually 15.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
2 in Konqueror. But I just moved over from my desktop.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
14 windows. Too many tabs to count right now :( This is where one can end up when doing "lateral browsing". Must clean 'em up.
- Uldis Bojars
I have 5 as standard: Gmail, Ping.fm, Hellotxt (wish I could combine these), DeviantART and Flickr. FF might be added but I have Twhirl loaded on startup, so not too imporant
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm increasingly wondering if the "like" terminology on FF is the wrong word. This seems to come up a lot. Much of the news out there is interesting and fluent FFers know that like is just really promote. But I think as the site gets more popular this problem is only going to get bigger, especially with newer more mainstream people. How do you "like" a decapitation on a Greyhound, even if it is a newsworthy story worthy of being promoted?
- Thomas Hawk
I think "Mark" would be a better tag -- that way it could be used any way you want without guilt or specific connotation
- Brian Sullivan
But that might confuse all the various users named "Mark."
- David Worrell
It should be more like a thumbs up/thumbs down vote like digg or reddit
- Mike Hussein Cohen
hmmm.. "Mark" could be good. I wonder if we should run that one by the "Mark" group first though, I think they have a room here somewhere.
- Thomas Hawk
I support any and all features named after me.
- Mark Trapp
I use the Like button the same way. There is a lot of activity on my feed, even though I'm not following that many people. I also use the Like button more as a bookmark, so I can go back to certain posts. I do agree, a scale button for FF would be great, or even something like the noise filter on social|median, so I can scale just how much activity I want to see from certain people. It...
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- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
Tag? I haven't seen anybody called Tag -- but there probably is
- Brian Sullivan
By liking you put your name on it and thus give it a weight proportional to your name - promote, otherwise said :) But I do believe it is rather a common sense thing.
- Hayk H.
I also use the "Like" button as a bookmarker. I'm not thrilled with the terminology either, as it's similar to the concept of having "friends" on myspace.
- Helen Sventitsky
"Share", "Unread", "★", and "DO NOT WANT"
- Mona Nomura
I've always thought it should be "interesting" not "like".
- Yolanda
I'd not mind slashdot-style ranking. Interesting, Funny, Informative, Trolling, etc.
- abacab
I also use Like from my iPhone, but when using FireFox, I have the FriendFeed Read Later Greasemonkey script and that helps. Of course, having the feature built-in would help across all platforms.
- Sergio Cruz
"Like" is problematic because in instances like the Canada bus beheading news story - the event was extremely interesting, and awful and curious but not "likeable." Also since there isn't a "dislike" option either maybe there could be a "meh" or a shrug.
- JoEllen
I don't want a Digg system here. I think that commenting serves to convey anyones dislike of the post. Its easy to like anything. Its harder to give constructive criticisim - or even a well-thoughout opinion.
- Roberto Bonini
you can always use the read later script/tab in firefox as a book mark
- Richard Binhammer
*laughs* @ Mona's suggested DO NOT WANT
- Leslie Poston
Mark is good by me, as you can keep those 'chosen' items for later review by email. / Share is already a choice by the service itself (Reshare) even though it gets to your credit without I think actually totally link to the 'original' post.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
The other proposal in the article was the ranking of friends from 1 to 10 for filtering purposes. If friendship reciprocation is a junior high issue now, imagine how the social dynamic will be with the new system? "You didn't see my post? How dare you set me at 2? I am going to set you at 1, so there!"
- David Muir
Why don't you just use the READ LATER Greasemonkey script??
- ChaCha Fance