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Twitter Down: Twitter Doesn’t Know Why - http://mashable.com/2009...
Svartling, Kol Tregaskes, Daniel Rowley and 46 other people liked this
isn't a joke!!
- abdellah
Glad we can talk about this and see the info via FriendFeed - I almost resorted to my bookmarks to check out Mashable and TechCrunch :)
- Robert J Taylor
reboot
- Kevin Norman
Is it inevitable because of their architecture that they will continue to have these problems until a massive rewrite?
- Dusty Edenfield
The world is collapsing for a ton of people right now ;-)
- Caio Cesar
i dunno - they were coping quite well with all the growth. They did do a lot of work after thier last set of probloms. Pesonally i think its a data centre failure. Enough of the system ( or just the important bits) got taken down that its useless.
- Roberto Bonini
#endoftheworld
- carrotmadman6
there's always identi.ca
- Imabug
Facebook is having issues for me to post, could it be some form of ajax update that was posted that broke things?
- Thomas Vincent
it caused by unfollowing 106,000 people by Robert Scoble)))
- obolonskyi
Scoble with his mass unfollow created a "disturbance in the force"..Twitter's servers had gotten used to that load profile and went insane upon the recent change :) Looks like Twitter took down FF with it for a moment as well (for me at least). "Twitter is down" shout outs overload? Or something about the feed input to FF hanging/bursting/etc. ??
- Alex Schleber
It's been having reporting problems for the past week, for me at least, unless I missed some new decision to reset the tweet clock. my 9000+ tweets and dwindled down to just the most recent ones
- Melanie Reed
i'm feeling really bad for the bots right now, since they are 25% of Twitter's traffic
- Kevin Norman
@cerveau / obolonskyi Haha - we were thinking the same thing simultaneously..
- Alex Schleber
Twitter's blog does mention the reporting problem. I guess this implies I don't have a legitimate account?! ;)
- Melanie Reed
Twitter/status reports they're fighting a DoS attack.
- Roger Jennings
Why did Google announce Chrome OS this week? Well, of course, Microsoft has a big announcement coming on Monday (I'm embargoed).
Daniel Rowley, Bill Romanos, Charanjit and 216 other people liked this
It'll be interesting to discuss both announcements too, and what they mean for each other.
- Robert Scoble
Is this that internet clipboard that Ray Ozzie demoed a few years ago? Maybe they've completed it!
- Diego Barros
I hope to see something good come out of this. Are they saying free or paid for the Chrome OS?
- Anthony Timberlake
That's my Scoble - seeing things behind the things!
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*raises eyebrow* Interesting. I applaud more competition
- Mo Kargas
I'm intrigued!
- Daynah
Diego, no, it's one of Microsoft's primary businesses. Did you know Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses?
- Robert Scoble
Related to Microsoft's Gazelle browser? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Kiran Patchigolla
Windows 7 GPL 3.0 ?? Brouahahaa:-)
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Microsoft isn't doing too bad lately.
- Eric Florenzano
cool, im thinking its a special version of windows 7 for netbooks?
- sean percival
Anthony: I'm sure it will be free.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm sure they do. As I'm sure IBM does. But I don't care about IBM. :)
- Diego Barros
BingOS?
- imabonehead
imabonehead :D
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
imabonehead: no. :-) Microsoft isn't that disruptive.
- Robert Scoble
And that means Google Is doing well once again, doesn't it?
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
The Chrome OS will be for netbooks and such for now. And is Microsoft announcing the Free One Care?
- Dylan Richardson
haha BingOS! I like it
- Diego Barros
Bingo yes :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
*chuckles at imabonehead*
- Daynah
LOL BingOS! The startup sound will be Ballmer saying "BING!" like he did at AllThingsD conference.
- Paul Salzman
Bing-OS was his name-o!
- Daynah
Bingos <--- that was his name-o
- Micah Wittman
GoogleOS is already out - "It's the browser" - the GNU/Linux/Ubuntu skin is just marketing...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*high fives Daynah*
- Micah Wittman
An open source OS - how much stable will it be??
- Palak Mathur
Question is Robert, if you are not allowed to say, how on earth did Google find out?
- Sandra Large
Bingo-sssss
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Micah, we're on the same google brain wave tonight. :)
- Daynah
Palak - you troll
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Ride the wave :D
- Micah Wittman
Sandra: it might just be coincidence. Or maybe they have great spies. Depends on your view of the world, huh?
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft is open-sourcing their code too??? Yeah, didn't think so. :)
- Josh Fraser
Josh: part of the Microsoft announcement on Monday runs on Google Chrome (and Firefox for that matter).
- Robert Scoble
Not all "open-sourcing" is created equal.
- Micah Wittman
Maybe Microsoft is making it's secret announcement this week cause they knew Google was about to announce?
- Alan W Silberberg
Robert - say no more, don't get into trouble, Duder.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Thats real funny Josh .. Its like pulling teeth to get them to give a discount on anything.
- Dylan Richardson
Alan: maybe! It all depends on how you look at the world, doesn't it?
- Robert Scoble
Nice Cant Wait!
- James Hunter
It just seems to coincidental. Like President of Iran making big speech during MJ's funeral!
- Alan W Silberberg
Scoble the only MS announcement they could make that would blow me away is Windows 7 Early release.
- Dylan Richardson
Dylan: Microsoft has a few other impressive things up its sleeve.
- Robert Scoble
So the question is now that Google's making an OS, will Eric Schmidt resign from Apple's Board?
- Paul Salzman
It's all just ones and zeros. ;)
- Victor Panlilio
So, do we give Calacanis credit for calling a Google OS back in 2006? http://calacanis.com/2006...
- Mike Doeff
Sanat: insightful. Paul: Google makes a smart phone OS, and he hasn't resigned, so why would he now?
- Robert Scoble
Zune HD. Looks nice for the first time ever I'm thinking about it.
- Dylan Richardson
Google is talking about it's goals at this point. Isn't Intel trying a netbook OS too that boots fast? It'll be interesting to see which OS features win out here with different implementations. Is instant on to the browser the key or will some other feature shine? Fun times ahead, though really need to see things in action.
- Loren Heiny
from iPhone
Dylan: sorry, that is dead on arrival. They should have combined Zune with a cell phone.
- Robert Scoble
I got a screen photo here: http://ff.im/4WoVE, I don't have much comments yet due 2 that I am using it now, its not much of an announcement.
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert, Zune with a phone hmmm??? I hope ur rite as u said ur embargoed!
- polou/indigo_bow
Gazelle?
- carrotmadman6
MS does not have the Balls to take on the iPhone.
- Dylan Richardson
Wait for Monday. Nothing else to say.
- Frédéric Sidler
from iPhone
Robert, because they claim to excuse him from the part of the meetings related to iPhone...computer OS is arguably the biggest segment of Apple. I guess he can stick around for the hardware discussions. I know my argument is elementary, but maybe walking a line here?
- Paul Salzman
What was the last big hit new MS product?
- James Watters
But if they did that would be cool competition is always better for the consumer.
- Dylan Richardson
James: Xbox? Dynamics? Bing?
- Robert Scoble
Apple is not really what I will be looking at Android is the big boy here
- polou/indigo_bow
MS Office on the browser would also explain why GMail and Google Apps are finally out of Beta today too.
- Ron Schott
Xbox
- polou/indigo_bow
OH OH Project Natal is coming out!! lol j/k
- Dylan Richardson
Robert: Thanks, wasn't hating, just looking for organic momentum from products. Bungie was def a godsend to 360. Bing proved Seth Godin wrong which I greatly enjoyed.
- James Watters
@Robert Scoble: So I looked up Microsoft's last quater's financial report, Microsoft does indeed have a $14 billion business :)
- Long Zheng
Bing is nice I have to say. Here is how I use it .. If I want to Buy or shop a price I use Bing. If I need info its Google.
- Dylan Richardson
MS better fix the %$^#%@^ Gumblar hole first, it's apparently worse than Conficker -- http://rixstep.com/2...
- Victor Panlilio
MS also has ~6+ B in R&D, is it efficient?
- James Watters
Not new news, but it could be the launch of Silverlight 3.0? Offline mode and all the other nice bits, runs on Chrome and Firefox.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Oh, really? When I get something on embargo...I don't write about getting it under embargo. Come on, Robert. You're better than that. Or at least I hope you are.
- Andrew Feinberg
I agree @travis, but google make it like a news
- polou/indigo_bow
James: it doesn't matter, a company like Microsoft needs a product pipeline to remain relevant. Research lets Microsoft remain relevant and on Monday you'll see a bit of how it does that.
- Robert Scoble
OK. Google Chrome OS. Netbook makers say Linux based Netbooks have high return rates. How will people react to a Netbook that only runs a browser? Linux has remained niche.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Andrew: sometimes you have to take a risk. This is one of those times.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I will look forward to it. We ALL win when great software comes to the market. Almost nothing better in the world.
- James Watters
14 billion, maybe Office that runs on Silverlight, therefore in the browser properly.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Do you all think GoogleOS will just boot up right into the browser? Browser will be in firmware?
- Paul Salzman
BTW, Robert, will Microsoft finally dump IE and develop a Webkit based browser? (Forget Gazelle. Yet another stupid Microsoft research project that will never successfully make it mainstream.)
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Paul: no highly unlikely.
- James Watters
Dileepa: I don't know the answer to that. But the demos on Monday (I have a bunch of video coming) were shown to me in Firefox. So maybe that's our answer right there.
- Robert Scoble
James: so you think it will sit on top of Linux or something? Or just be a new flavor of Linux?
- Paul Salzman
Linux flavor of Chrome, thus far not arrived yet
- polou/indigo_bow
Paul: I'd look at Android as a precursor and say yes its going to use a google refined linux kernel, and I believe the post even says a windowing system. I'll check TC again to be sure brb.
- James Watters
Paul: I bet there will be some customization of Linux underneath Google's Chrome OS. I'm intrigued and can't wait to see what they will do with it.
- Robert Scoble
Google says the software architecture will basically be the current Chrome browser running inside “a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.” (quoting TC)
- James Watters
I can almost bet that its web based Microsoft Office with some nifty real-time collaboration features.
- sameer
Sameer - I agree. Explains cross-browser compatability
- Daniel Lazarides
from iPhone
"a new windowing system" leaves the door open for a greater level of abstraction away from the kernel for sure. Probably still with some access to files, devices, etc on the local hardware though which a browser alone would be a clumsy solution too.
- James Watters
If Microsoft's BIG announcements are Web based Office (already demo'ed and announced), Windows Azure RTW (nothing unexpected) or Windows 7 RTM (already announced to be announced!), there is nothing that's going to surprise people on Monday then.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
I think Wave might be integrated into the OS.
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Windows7i -- the Cloud OS from MS
- Paul Salzman
Jaya: Like as a built in extension to the windowing system? Like IE and explorer?
- James Watters
@Alex Will they be able to match Open Source strategies as followed by Ubuntu,etc??
- Palak Mathur
just another rehashed disaster of windows in another marketing created packing
- Zac Bowling
Dileepa - They haven't talked much about collaboration using Office web. There was one OneNote demo that showed some realtime synchronization. I'm thinking more Wave-like realtime features.
- sameer
Zac: I'm going to believe Robert, but lets give him hell if this is marketing glossy! :)
- James Watters
Paul Salzman: Windows 7i with WGA! -- works only when accessed through IE when running on a WGA validated copy of Windows.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Dileepa: that's it, we've called it! ;)
- Paul Salzman
Robert you managed to convert a complete google night into a complete MS night :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
James: it's been a while since I've felt compelled to do more than five videos at a Microsoft press conference. See ya on Monday.
- Robert Scoble
sameer: That will be mimicking existing Google Docs feature. Google Wave is at a completely different level and I am not sure if Microsoft is up to doing something like that.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Till Monday it is, I'm thinking I'll even blog it.
- James Watters
Wave might act as the collaboration platform on the OS. But that leads to another question. Will the OS be tied to Google accounts for login?
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Let's see, I think there's potential for implementation of realtime collaboration across the web based and desktop offerings of Office that could be of big mainstream impact. It's got to be something related to Office, Robert talks about the "$14 billion business" - The only other Microsoft business I know of that's that big is Windows.
- sameer
sameer: I said that Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses. Plural, not singular, but I also said it was one of Microsoft's primary businesses. That narrows it down a bit, yes.
- Robert Scoble
My guess is a MS hardware that will shake the netbook market!!
- Krishnan Subramanian
So that's a Win7 RTM announcement, combined with Web Office. If Web Office will be free to use, the combination of W7 Starter with Web Office will be a huge notebook hit.
- Kirill Petrovsky
If ChromeOS was meant to counter MS, then the logical MS announcement would be some kind of OS project, like maybe a combination of Microsoft Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ) combined with Silverlight for NetBooks or mobiles.
- Ray Cromwell
MS Web Office for sure: Scoble said it runs on Chrome and Firefox and it's a multi billion business. Actually, MS Office accounted for 18-19B $ in 2008.
- Jérôme Flipo
I fear that if the tech side of their release if good (but whatever the pricing), Google Apps isn't ready for the fight.
- Jérôme Flipo
Microsoft announces the cloud OS? I'm still not sure about a Google OS though.
- Burcu Dogan
Web Office in Silverlight, together with a mobile version that means we get Silverlight on WinMo and maybe even IPhone would be a win for me
- Ian Blackburn
I cannot wait...:-) but I DO have a clue...
- Eric Denekamp
Lots of people suggesting Office-in-browser but if that were it why would Robert be under embargo given they've already announced it and demo'd it? I'm not saying it ISN'T Office-in-browser but if it is then something doesn't add up!
- Jamie
Good point Jamie - the two primary business in MS are Office and Windows (in terms of revenue anyway), so perhaps this is more to do with a Windows OS in the cloud? How would that look?
- Ian Blackburn
Midori perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jamie
Initially, Google VS Live, Then Chrome Vs IE & Google Vs Bing, finally its Windows VS Chrome OS
- Michael_techie
Ummm... are they announcing an online version of MS Office like Google Docs?
- prolificdyslexic
that's why I do not subscribe to Scoble - too many comments on his articles, too much noise
- Павел Романовский
I don't see any noise in here. Interesting conversation!
- Robert Scoble
The MS guy at Portland Cloud Camp said Azure was going to be released very, very <wink, wink> soon. #cloudcampPDX
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
@gwalter You’re maybe right. The front end would be MS Gazelle, and the back end would be Azure.
- Bram Pitoyo
Microsoft is finally putting the Zune out of it's (and out) misery and killing it? :)
- Diego Barros
Office Web Apps release to public beta is well overdue - first promised for end of 2008. If this is embargoed then it must involve something new. ScottGu hinted that Silverlight 4 was already in development. SL3 is released this Friday. So maybe SL4 will be released,in beta with a beta of Office Web Apps showing some SL4 features (like more AIR like features)..
- Joe Wood
It seems like "too late" and illogical for Microsoft to come-up with another vendor-lock-in type innovation and expect positive results. Microsoft is not run by daredevils nor wimps. The announcement Robert talking about might be about a web based productivity application suite, which is standards compliant and offers a familiar interface and workflow for people, thus easily adoptable and steal competitors' (G, Y!, Zoho, 37S, Adobe?, etc.) user base.
- Berk D. Demir
The thing thats got me shitting my pants over all this is Games. I need Windows to play all the latest Direct X 10 and 11 games. Linux is hopeless in that regard.
- Mark
Audience in here is mainly composed of technically inclined, early adopters. We feel comfortable with online apps and mainly ready to ditch (or already ditched) many offline applications in favor of our new toys. OTOH, that's a huge paradigm shift for the other majority of less technically inclined and incomparably bigger masses. Microsoft still have the power to lead masses, create...
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- Berk D. Demir
Interesting discussion! I vote for MS Office online !
- Krishnamoorthy
I commented in istartedsomething on Long Zheng theories with this list. so why not here after having read all of Scoble responses?: Safe Guesses (not crazy): 1.- Office Ensemble (Office Web Apps + Office Live Update) and a Office 2010 public CTP (the most likely one) 2.-Microsoft Online Services gets full release along with a full release of Windows Azure while one of the new Data...
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- Avatar X
from FriendFoo
i crammed a lot of guesses that may not have to do with the announcement so maybe robert could say warm or hot to the whole list without having to specify. :P
- Avatar X
I vaguely recollect listening to the GIllmor Gang in June/July 2008 where Robert said he'd just visited Microsoft Research and seen "an amazing new browser". If memory serves me correctly it was said in the context of mobile devices but who knows.....this may be another contender for Monday's announcement!
- Jamie
Anything related to Midori ? http://technologizer.com/2008...
- Krishnamoorthy
Microsoft has already made their counter-move to a Google OS. It's called Windows Azure. It'll serve apps to the Google OS with ease and MS will make money in the process. Yeah, I know today the money be nowhere near what the Windows OS makes, but while the Google OS is gaining traction as a desktop OS, Azure will be gaining traction as an app hosting platform for that very same Google OS and others.
- Jeff Weber
More spam news will come in. Azure, Mirot ha ha ha
- Michael_techie
just another social network (where the IE users might hang out)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Another huge innovation like renaming Bing?
- Burcu Dogan
Google is initially going after netbooks via a new OpenSource OS. If Microsoft's Next Big Thing is Azure then they are betting that a locked-in cloud-based OS will trump Google's move. It's gonna be VEHLEY INTELESTING to see this play out.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
launching online enabled MS Office, free and beta
- Павел Романовский
I really hope it's not anything Silverlight related, some one is on crack if they think the end game is everything running in a plugin in a browser.
- Scott Kahler
Tease. Tease. :)
- Charlie Anzman
Robert, they'd better have more than a few "14 billion dollar" businesses. Their market cap is 200 billion for heaven's sake.
- Stephen Pickering
sorry, have to ask. did it make you cry? :)
- dannysullivan
does this mean google=novell?
- Eran Even-Kesef
Made the news onto electricpig your announcement!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Dr. Schmidt HAS to resign from the Apple board... too many conflicts of interest (iPhone v Android, Chrome OS v OS X, Chrome v Safari). What could he possibly be adding that can't be obtained through someone else?
- Gerald Buckley
You are in Palo Alto? I am in Mendocino. :)
- Joe
pricing of Azure will definitily be one of the announcements; not the BIG one. Office online perhaps...
- Jeroen De Miranda
Very interesting indeed. Chrome OS sounds like a great companion to Windows on a netbook+ device, for those times when you do need instant web/email. Looking forward to your videos!
- Will Johnson
Since the event on monday is WPC I'm guessing that Steve Balmer will present MS view on future of the Enterprise and showing off some of what Ray Ozzie has been working on. Coming full circle with Azure (computing infrastructure), Mesh (powering collaboration), SilverLight (future of runtime enviroments on all platforms) and of course all of this software+services has to be powered by Windows Enterprise Servers on the back end.
- Daniel Chow
Also the new Office is the first application to launch under the above stack. Scoble, did I get anywhere close to any of the embargoed announcements? :)
- Daniel Chow
Robert - Was GLADoS based on you? ;)
- Matthew DeVries
What do you think? How long will the Apple-Google Friendship last? http://friendfeed.com/applero...
- Hans Kainz
They are going to announce the release of IE 9 - the even worse with net standards addition.
- Bobby Griffith
Windows 7 Home/Business/Ultimate Netbook Edition. Each with different capabilities and things disabled for no reason other than to confuse users and make more money.
- Scott Koon
heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)
- Allen Stern
Go for it, Allen! Inquiring minds want to know!
- Rudy Amid
Well if you do know, you owe it to your readers to report the news,
- Mark
Mark - That's if you see tech journalists (which I don't think Robert even classifies himself as) as true hard hitting journalists (think woodward and burnstein, ed Murrow) or if you think of them in the vein of Sports writers. Sports writers, like tech writers, need to foster relationships and have their names known and have to cross closer into the friendzone to get us the day to day...
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- Matthew DeVries
Mark: sorry, I signed an embargo. That's the way these things go and I'm not willing to burn this relationship, sorry. You'll know on Monday. Matthew is exactly right. And even with Woodward and Burnstein, they played this game. You didn't know who Deep Throat was, even though that was news too.
- Robert Scoble
Not even going to go for the Deep Throat joke... I swear, I'm not going to... :p
- Bill Heslin
what announcement?
- kang
I didn't mean Robert should report it. I meant Allen Stern who commented he was not under an embargo. He knows it, he has no NDA, he should report it.
- Mark
RT Allen Stern "heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)"
- Mark
I hope its not Gazelle. If it is I respect Robert for abiding by the embargo. It seems as though no one in tech abides by embargoes any more. If it is Gazelle, might as well discuss since it is all over the tech blogs already.
- Keith Beucler
As they keep it under the blanket till now! It should be software only thingy! speculations about xbox, zune phone etc are free to leave!
- Amir
It's not Gazelle. At least I don't think so, because I have no clue what Gazelle is. I'm off to find out.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh, nope, what I was thinking of is not Gazelle. But now that I see the rumors I wonder if Microsoft has more than one major announcement on Monday?
- Robert Scoble
My Guess: They enabled Live Mesh Web Desktop to run applications, So in future all applications are going to be hosted in Live Mesh
- Amir
maybe i want use chrome all day,,just for internet surfing
- qian
Hey Robert, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being an announcement that version 8.1 of IE includes a better spell-checker, and 10 being that Windows 8 is coming out in 2010 and is free, how many out of 10 is the announcement going to be in terms of having an impact?
- Mark
btw I have had this single chrome window open for about a week, and because each tab has its own process I don't get memory leaks like with firefox.
- Mark
Does unmodded, unaddon'd firefox leak?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure to be honest
- Mark
So there could be your difference.
- Matthew DeVries
Mark: that's hard to judge. I'd say 6.9 based on how you framed it.
- Robert Scoble
Is this something that will go over well on Wall Street?
- Michael Fidler
Well, today Microsoft announced the promotion of Steven Sinofsky to president of the Windows Division.
- imabonehead
Robert ur (face) a hit today in the news outlets: http://lifehacker.com/5310444...
- polou/indigo_bow
Sounds very interesting :)
- Sweetzspot
I hope Google comes up with a great OS. I have tried any different Linux versions on my netbook but have never found the perfect one. Looks like they have connected the right partners as well so I am very excited. 9 0ut 10 for me. This could change everything
- Asgeir
TechCrunch on Scoblelizer's drumroll: "Office In Cloud Comes Monday" http://bit.ly/18sKUe
- JimmyJet
it will be a sigh of release for people come to fear those massive, massive office purchase/downloads. still a pain for when you travel and have no access online though...
- Terry O'Fee
While Google's forays in the OS and office productivity arenas are great for consumer choice, are they playing w/ fire? Google's core revenue stream is search, which has a much lower switching cost than any of MS's multiple revenue streams: Client, Office, Server. It seems like the two are pitching for a protracted fight that could be costly to both. But in a battle of attrition, it seems to me that Google could lose $ faster than MS.
- lingb
Windows ME Ultimate?
- Michael Funk
Well, it's Monday, what is the announcement about?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
MS is making Office apps online. Ala google apps. Boring.
- Rudy Amid
There are lots of Windows haters. I run Windows 7 on my Mac and it is great.
Micah Wittman, Didier Girard, Adi and 43 other people liked this
so do i and love it.
- Carlos Ayala
I'd say mac osx and 7 are tie
- Tyler Gillies
Windows 7 is fantastic. I am waiting for the RTM to upgrade from XP
- Kashif Khan
It works much better on my Mac than it does on my PC. It keeps crashing on my PC. Vista never crashed on my PC.
- Jesse Stay
I haven't used Windows since, 2000.
- Matt Ruiz
i still use win xp and content with that. will check out windows 7 when it launches
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
as a Mac user I noticed a lot of Mac haters as well ;)
- Khaled A
Windows 7 is definitely breathing new life into old PC's too.
- Rodfather
Win7 is awesome. It runs on 512MB ram + 16MB video mem in a VirtualBox VM on a winXP (try doing that with even Ubuntu - Gnome)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I'd do the same (with virtual box), but I can't get W7 to download from the MS site.
- Jason Miller
will Microsoft ever restructure the control panel so it could make sense? I'm tired of digging through countless windows just to change power settings. While they are at it, add network profiles :)
- Khaled A
Jason: I got it when they released the first beta. Haven't done anything recently though
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I run Win 7 in Boot Camp/VM Fusion, too, and it's rock solid. Great way for doing F# development.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I wonder if MS are planning on win7 support for natal. If so, makes you wonder how game changing that would be in the consumer OS market. Could imagine natal embedded into laptops. It'll never fully replace keyboard and mouse, but could be an interesting compliment to them.
- alphaxion
Can you run Windows 7 fully on your Mac? I tried installing via VMWare with my new 2009 iMac and it says it doesn't recognize the graphics card, so I have to run it in a dumbed down mode. No fancy Aero or anything. Hard to judge an OS like that.
- Josh McConnell
Josh, Aero doesn't work for anyone in VMWare [yet].
- Akiva Moskovitz
It requires hardware virtualization so thats why it doesnt work in vmware . But according to this http://blogs.msdn.com/richard... it can run under virtual pc
- Kashif Khan
I'd like to try W7 on my MacBookPro. Is it better to download W7 using Mac/Safari or Parrallels/Vista/Mac/Firefox from my Mac? Should it make any difference?
- 1x29
its a multi GB iso file, make sure you use a download manager
- Khaled A
It is not so much a matter of hating Windows as it is of prefering another OS.
- Michael Tefft
Adrian: always prefered VirtualBox to VmWare. check out http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki.... It's free and is really fast (support 3D acceleration among other really neat features, also is scriptable).
- Shivanand Velmurugan
The one thing I'd miss in VirtualBox is Unity mode. I can live without Aero.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Shivanand: The problem I'm getting is that when I try and download the Microsoft TechNet page just hangs for ages. I'm not sure if it's because I'm trying to do it through non windows environment?
- 1x29
Adrian: could be. I used IE to download it (it's crap, and cumbersome, but it works) :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I'm trying at the moment but it's been hanging for a good 10 minutes. I'll boot up Vista via Parallels and try it with IE.
- 1x29
I run it in VMWare on a Mac as well, and like it too.
- Patrick Jordan
both mac and windows suck and I am not talking about GUIs installation etc. but the internals like no fork on windows or "broken" /dev/shm on macosx
- marcin
Tired of the os wars. Why should anyone care what i use?
- dthree
I love my windows 7. It is the only operating system on my computer at the moment.
- John Ford
I'm a real OS whore, with XP installed in a VM on two of my Linux installations, Vista/Win7/Linux tri-boot on my main PC, OSX/Linux dual-boot on an older PC, and Win7 on my netbook (where previously I had been tri-booting Leopard/Win7/Linux Mint). OSX is probably my least favorite due to certain practices of Apple, but I still find much to recommend there.
- Christopher A Carr
I just upgraded from XP to win7 RC Yesterday and holy crap, what a difference! I never used vista, so leapfrogging into a fully modern OS is quite an eye opener. My laptop's crappy 32mb directX8 video card can't do Aero, but even without the "pretty" it's still a great OS.
- veo
69% of the way through downloading W7 and going strong. Mac/Parallels/Vista/IE seems to be working :) Thanks, Shivanand :)
- 1x29
W7 is dreadfully slow on parallels on my mac...
- Che Hodgins
I have run it on my Mac as well. I don't prefer it and don't really run any windows apps - but what I saw was fast, light and seemed really nice.
- Tony
I love Windows, I just hate that Microsoft tries to dominate the entire PC experience instead of leaving it to smaller and more innovative companies.
- Davis Freeberg
Che: Something isn't set up right, then...
- Christopher A Carr
You couldn't just call it a night huh :)
- Aviv
@Adrian try downloading it in Firefox with downthemall(a plugin/excellent download manager). I was able to download Win 7 x64(3.15 gb) in 2-3 hrs on 3 mbps connection. And no problem with Technet(atleast it worked for me).
- Abhishek
I've got every box here using the RC now. Lots of hidden (and not so hidden) cool stuff (and improvements).
- Charlie Anzman
I run Win7 on my Macbook and its great!
- Spirit 2.0
from Viigo
For any1 on this thread who is mentioning the Aero Theme in Vista/Win7, it's a massive resource hog on ANY platform. It slowed a very workable Vista HP Laptop (2GB RAM) to a near crawl, when I finally figured out that it was Aero causing this and took it off, the machine easily ran 4 times faster. Imagine the extra video calculations wasted on that stupid glass effect. Once you take it...
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- Alex Schleber
Alex - Have you tried it on that same laptop in 7? I've been running it on a "Vista Capable" laptop with 1gb of RAM and its smooth, in windows 7.
- Richard Lawler
Interesting that you say that, Shivanand. Last time I tried the Windows 7 beta in VirtualBox or VMware Player, it wouldn't even friggin' boot fully the first time round - it took an insane amount RAM assigned to the virtual machine (over 700MB, if I remember correctly), just to get as far as the "Install Now" screen with a cursor that moved a few pixels every 2 minutes. That's on a laptop with 1GB of RAM and a 2GHz Celeron 575...
- Tyson Key
Windows 7 has been fantastic so far. Even got it running on an old P4 desktop with a half a gig of memory.
- Adi
Does Bill Gates read friendfeed? He just told me thanks for the nice comments I made about his annual letter there.
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ooh.. Bill is around us =) watch out
- Qbat
Will we see a comment from Bill?
- paul mooney
Yeah! well, i think he's got plenty of time now
- Constantine
It'd be awesome if we do see a comment from him.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
i think he needs to do it to stay connected and to see what's going on.
- Sascha Pallenberg
well why not? would you expect him not to? or anyway, someone that briefs him
- sofiagk
we won't see his comment, because anybody seems to know his account; that clearly means he's not going to use FF as a main [and public] tool of communication. Why should he burn his hidden identity here - if he really have one? -- Anyway I just think his press office has done a good job, telling him what Robert wrote here.
- Markingegno - Donato
Markingegno: knowing Bill I seriously doubt it was the press office. The dude does use all social networks.
- Robert Scoble
Ironically, Bill Gates could pop in here and say "Hi, I'm Bill Gates" and no-one would believe it now...
- Warren
*waves at Bill* There are few people who could change this from ScobleFeed, and he's one of 'em. Heaven help me if Jobs has a covert FF account, I'd be using the hide button like a mad woman.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Maybe he's stalking you, Robert. Or maybe he has a mancrush ;)
- Ron's Home And Hardware
But is he on Twitter? ...Sorry, had to drop that in here. :)
- phil baumann
@Robert - I believe you about his attitude towards social networks, but still think he doesn't want to pop in. I'd be glad to discover I'm wrong ;)
- Markingegno - Donato
Markingegno: he won't participate because he gets too many requests. He was on Facebook for a while and deleted his account.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Bill! i think your a kool guy. (now call me and say thanks) lol - @robert whats his twitter?
- Chris Clayton
He probably reads it for the same reason many of us to to stay up to date and in touch
- Rob Cairns
If he does, his personal stock just went way up in my book!
- Aaron Strout
HE is watching us :-|
- ◄ani625Ξ
I hope so, he owes me a computer!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Which reinforces the point that the readers/lurkers are often more important than the participants (or more precisely shouldn't be discounted and can surprise you considerably)
- Shannon Clark
Hi Bill. If you're reading this. Please come back to Microsoft. We miss you
- Marcus Beagley
If you're reading this Bill, I'm writing you from Nigeria and need help getting my money...
- Kevin Leroux
Everyone listens in on your conversations Robert; have you heard from the pope? : )
- Mark Harai
what happened was that Bill did a Live search for entries/critiques/analysis of the report and nothing came up...then he ran the same search on Google. First hit = FriendFeed..
- Carlos Ayala
ok, now I can tell you, my real name is Bill: http://is.gd/hO6f :)
- Markingegno - Donato
Maybe somebody who knows him uses FF and told him about the comments.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
awesome!
- Davide D'Incau
that's eerie yet cool...
- Anthony Farrior
Hey Bill. Loved you in Stargate!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
That is cool, Robert. And I thought the annual letter was interesting and very well written. I'd love to work for the Gates Foundation.
- asiriusgeek
Would Bill even use his real name?? ( apologies in advance to Bill if he does read this)???
- Roberto Bonini
Like it or not, a message like that is EXACTLY why Scoble is such an influencer on here and other places. How many people could say that Bill Gates had personally thanked them for a comment they made about him while arsing about on social networks and you know straight away that it's true.
- Philip Tomlinson
I'm sure he has a "listening strategy" like a google alert on his own name - or maybe he creates specific alerts for his name plus a keyword for a specific event/topic.
- Laura Norvig
YAY!! I hope Bill does check out and participate in FriendFeed. Perhaps he saw it on your blog. You mention FF quite a bit there too
- Susan Beebe
Gates=authority
- Wallace
OMG! Wait, and you're sure you didn't post those comments anywhere else but here? Nice!
- Sarah Perez
Bill is a nerd, why wouldn't he read and do all the other stuff other nerds do? That and in between meeting with heads of state and playing WoW on a real set :-)
- Todd Hoff
Wouldn't a system like Twitter, FriendFeed be better for someone like Gates? Even if 1,000,000 people follow him, he's not obligated to follow back, and people wouldn't be offended by this, there would be respect of his privacy. Whereas on Facebook, he would be inundated with requests for various apps...
- Mike Nayyar
Now I have to say more nice things about Microsoft. :)
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if Bill Gates was a lurker here, but all I can say is that he better get along with Derrick. Otherwise there will be all kinds of drama! :-) and just in case...Mr. Gates, longtime customer, first time commenter. Just keep on doing what you feel you should be doing. It's worked for you thus far. You is, be da man. So if no broke, no fixin.... nuff sed
- Morgan Haley
Paul, I'll give you one: Microsoft is all about innovation. When it comes to innovative software companies, nobody's bought more of them than Microsoft.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
moive: Dead Man on Campus - "Bill Gates wants my brain" --- i just had too, one movie quote i always think about when i hear his name!
- shayne catrett
Bill wants his annual letter ritual to eventually rise to Warren Buffett level, so guess it's not surprising he's blowing kisses your way Robert. Or he just plain misses you.
- mark ivey
Full on lurker or might he have an alias account?
- AJ Kohn
Wouldn't Bill Gates employ someone to manage his social networking accounts? Or is the risk of mis-communication too great?
- Bill Romanos
If Bill went on Twitter I am sure he would get a gazillion followers... Though Jobs would probably get a gazillion+1
- Peter Efland
BIG microsoft fan...Until I gotta macintosh that is.
- Zee.
i'm sure someone e-mails him a daily ego-blast of all such things said throughout the Web.
- Andy Sternberg
He has people read it for him, of course.
- Monica Bower
Why do people assume he has people looking at Friendfeed and Twitter for him? Bill might like to read Twitter and FriendFeed feeds.
- Nicholas James
first even before google: omniscient/omnipresent would be the Gates himself ~ he's watching....
- sofarsoShawn
Maybe this is really Bill: http://friendfeed.com/bob
- April Russo (app103)
I bet he's pleased as punch about all the positive feedback on Win7, and should be. It's the best OS since Win95 came out.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Bill needs to grab this username quick@ http://friendfeed.com/billgat... ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Time to out myself, I'm actually Bill Gates. I've been watching you all.
- jjprojects
jjprojects - LOL ... so Bill is running earthhour now too?! :)
- Susan Beebe
tell him the credit check passed & yes, he can borrow some money, just wanted to make sure, you know financial crisis & alll...
- sofarsoShawn
Wouldn't it be funny if Steve Jobs was here with an outrageous avatar?
- Phil Boiarski
There could be a private room for tech CEO's, except Jerry Yang, of course
- Roberto Bonini
@Jason, You have a camera on his office?
- Phil Boiarski
لایک برای بیل عزیز. به فارسی نوشتم که نفهمین. هه هه
- مرتضی
The Singhsons (The indian version of the Simpsons) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Technology News: Operating Systems: Living on Windows 7: Can It Bring Back the Windows 95 Glory Days? - http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory...
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I'm running Windows 7 too and find it great, but, sorry, it won't be Windows 95 time of lines in front of stores to get it. I'd be shocked if that happened.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
highly doubt it. Too many players (Mac OS X, Linux and even Solaris) on x86 platform compared to Win95 era.
- Rom Feria
Thing is that at a glance, it's Vista. Win95 was drastically different in appearance from Win3.11 or NT4. One way or another, that was part of its allure (though the fact that many people were still on DOS also helped) and by learning the 'Vista lesson' of not changing too drastically, MS may have made the Win7 sell all the harder. It just comes of too much as a service pack for Vista - I know that's always the criticism of new Windows releases but it's a fact.
- mattpovey
I think MS has the means, and talent to make it happen, but are top heavy. I'm hoping W7 can be their Renaissance but it means a very careful release to market, unlike Vista
- Mo Kargas
Definitely, I have my 2 laptops and 3 desktops on Win 7 now, they work so well together. Can't wait for Win 7 to hit RTM.
- Tom Warren
it works great on my netbooks, so it will work great on platforms with some more performance. The look and feel... yeah i am barely switching back to my XP and Ubuntu system. I think i like it :p
- Sascha Pallenberg
Windows 95 glory days? From a retail perspective, yes, from a user perspective, no. I remember IE constantly crashing whilst bringing down the rest of the OS? If you think Vista is slow, then Win95 on 4Meg was horrific, even 8Meg was terrible.
- Paul Grav
Win7 rocks. It's not Vista, it does a lot more. People won't be standing in line to buy it but they'll be downloading it like crazy during the betas and installing it in droves when it releases if this momentum continues.
- Randy Holloway
from twhirl
I'm yet to try Win 7, but with all the positive reviews I'm reading, I'm sure it's pretty good compared to Vista. But whether it will bring back the glory days of Windows 95, I doubt it. And Microsoft can thank (partially) Vista for that.
- Umit Namli
Absolutely lovin' Windows 7 since I 'adjusted it' to my own needs. It's fast, adaptable and friendly for non-techies.
- Charlie Anzman
win95 was not the glory days.. win95 and NT4 did share a lot of UI design, though the two were different at their core - NT being a native 32bit kernel with DOS stripped from under it.Personally I'd say the move from NT4 to 2000 was their biggest leap. The move from a WINS based system to a native DNS powered OS and the addition of an LDAP based system was such a leap.
- alphaxion
I'm going to agree with 95, simply because 95's UI and organisation was far superior to win 3.11, not to mention the ability to multi-task better
- Mo Kargas
mattpovey, don't mean to nitpick here but NT4 was released about a year after Win95 and (along with other changes) had the Win95 UI style.
- Yuval Atzmon
my biggest complaint about the vista/win7 UI changes is that it now takes longer for anyone with any proficiency to do the most simple of tasks.. want to change the network settings? I used to be able to right click on network places and select properties. Now I have to select a link from the side of the network centre before I get to edit my connections. It's just so frustrating "oh, you want to do more than browse the internet and launch a few apps? screw you, here's 15 more screens to navigate!!"
- alphaxion
It's all right for Windows, but I went right back to my OSX
- Phil Boiarski
The buzz surrounding Windows 7 is electric, I will be installing the beta onto my main desktop replacing Vista later this week. I think MS got it right this time. About time too!
- Nigel Kitchen
I'm still using XP, and I've turned off all the UI bloat to make it as close to a Windows 98 feel as possible. Thankfully, I spend almost no time on my Windows machine - OS X and GNOME solve 95% of my problems, and a rarely turned-on Windows box is there for the rest.
- Tom Morris
@nigel I'd seriously recommend against updating your main system with it.. it's time limited and still in development. There's plenty of bugs yet to rear its ugly head and you could lose data. A good example of this is the media player 12 bug with the default config to pull info from the internet chopping off a few seconds from the start of mp3s. Keep your main rig as it is until the OS ships.
- alphaxion
alphaxion: Vista/Windows7 are customizable. For the Network connections you can create a shortcut.. Use "C:\Windows\explorer.exe ::{7007ACC7-3202-11D1-AAD2-00805FC1270E}"
- Alex Sauceda
@alex point being that as an administrator I can be coming into contact with different machines on a daily basis and shouldn't have to do that for basic OS functionality across them all. I'm aware as to why they included the "network centre" as it's important for the new networking stack, but they should have set it up as a different icon in the control panel instead of altering my right-click network -> properties shortcut.
- alphaxion
I agree that they buried the configuration even more than in XP.
- Kevin L
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