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You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
SteVe C, AJ Batac :), Brent and 254 other people liked this
You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF!
- Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark: http://friendfeed.com/bret...
- Casey Muller
Lovely. Thanks guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful！
- K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro.
- Louis Gray
Cool!
- Josh Haley
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret
- Ahsan Ali
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
Cool
- Nimaa
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice addition!
- Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
That's a cool feature
- Xitong Liu
FWIW this isn't working for me any longer. Perhaps that has something to do with my Gmail settings though.
- Mark J
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I still get them.
- AJ Batac :)
I get these every day.
- CW✔
FriendFeed Blog: Summer offsite 2009 - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Bindu Reddy, Susan Beebe, Ankit Ahuja and 19 other people liked this
Are Karen and Jim doing some kind of chicken-walk dance in this photo? http://friendfeed-media.com/eecf2a8...
- Casey Muller
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
Kishore Balakrishnan, Tanath, Nir Ben Yona and 68 other people liked this
Thank you very much, Casey! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you ff very good :)
- Nimaa
Nicely done :)
- LANjackal
Awesome! Now lets see support for more web services...
- Jac Falcon
saw that, and it was mega-helpful. bravo.
- Nathan Chase
Shoot. Now I need a subscription.
- Josh Haley
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :)
- Benjamin Golub
Nice
- Grant Bierman
that's great!
- K.D.
LIKEY.
- Steven Perez
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
w00t!
- David Cook
For features like this one, I'm ok to receive html emails. -MANY- html emails ;-)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The new emails are AWESOME!
- April
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images?
- chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help.
- Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;)
- chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately.
- Paul Buchheit
ahhhh that explains it. thanks Paul.
- chrisofspades
from email
Identical comment to numerous threads. http://friendfeed.com/ruthfred
Alperian, CarlC and imabonehead liked this
My desktop notifications from the FF desktop Notifier are dancing (scrolling) up my screen.
Morton Fox, Tyson Key, Nispell and 4 other people liked this
Kinda hard to 'like' anything when everything is bobbling up the screen. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is really annoying. No one is getting any likes today. I didn't realise how much I rely on the desktop notifier.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is still happening! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
No fix coming then? :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I've reset it again and reinstalled but the notifications still float up the screen! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Hi Kol, what OS are you using? Can you send a screenshot to feedback@friendfeed.com ? Thanks.
- Casey Muller
Casey, Windows 7.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks Kol, I'll have to find a Windows 7 machine somewhere and see if it happens for me too.
- Casey Muller
OK, thank you, Casey. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's only started doing this in the last few weeks btw.
- Kol Tregaskes
Any update on this please?
- Kol Tregaskes
If you continue to have issues I'd recommend yoono
- Brian Joseph
Does Yoono have all the FF notification options from here?: http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Kol Tregaskes
Now that everything else seems to be working on FriendFeed, can anyone from FF please help me with the Notifier? It's still floating up the screen. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
And can you please remove the spam from the FF=Feedback group?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, did you upgrade Air to the new beta? It did the same to me when I updated some time ago, and also Seesmic had a weird graphic. I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version and everything is ok. So it's an Adobe issue, not FF :)
- Flavio
Nope, never installed Air beta. I let it update itself.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm still having this issue!
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Connecting to friendfeed-api.com from SF, LA and Chicago all time out.
Ariel, Ali Oz, Brian Daniel Eisenberg and 5 other people liked this
Same here. WV.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I noticed my FFHound Friendfeed client erred out consistently trying to connect at least 4 hours ago. Thanks for elaborating on this Andy. Now we need help from the inside.
- Micah
Same here.
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
Thanks for the reports, we're looking into it now.
- Casey Muller
Thanks, Casey!
- Micah
Yes. Thanks, Casey. Much appreciated.
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
We should be back in business now, please let me know if there are further problems. We'll put better monitoring in place, sorry for the trouble!
- Casey Muller
It works now. :-) Thanks!
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
Debugging is why I maintain machines scattered around the United States.
- Andy Bakun
No RSS icons?
John Mueller, Iván Abrego and Alp liked this
Can I get the searches/filters as RSS feeds? #betakoltag-sg-gen
- Kol Tregaskes
We'll be adding feeds to the beta very soon, thanks for the suggestion.
- Casey Muller
Excellent, thanks, Casey. And for searches?
- Kol Tregaskes
We will have feeds for everything - just a dumb oversight.
- Bret Taylor
Excellent, ta guys. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bump.
- Kol Tregaskes
www.jamglue.com 2006-2010, R.I.P. (commiserating: http://www.facebook.com/search... and http://search.twitter.com/search...)
Michael Muller liked this
So sad :(
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret :-(
- Casey Muller
Dislike :(
- Tudor Bosman
Sorry to see it go. :-(
- Kevin Fox
:(
- Private Sanjeev
Thanks guys
- Casey Muller
When shall we see such a tool again? Alas.
- Michael Muller
I shall wear my t-shirt tomorrow in memoriam.
- Jon
sad :(
- Ashwin Bharambe
:(
- Paul Buchheit
:( Still have some bumper-stickers left...
- Sean O'Connor
What is [was] it?
- Gabe
:(
- Benjamin Golub
Gabe, it was Casey's old startup.
- Paul Buchheit
Prison escape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
Bret Taylor, Private Sanjeev, FALOB and Paul Buchheit liked this
"In other jurisdictions, the philosophy of the law holds that it is human nature to want to escape. In Mexico, for instance, escapees who do not break any other laws are not charged for anything and no extra time is added to their sentence;"
- bob
from Bookmarklet
It's also human nature to want to take things.
- Paul Buchheit
Reading first comment: "Sounds reasonable." Second comment: "Huh, good point."
- Kevin Fox
Bob, I can't believe you left out the rest of the last sentence: "...no extra time is added to their sentence; however, officers are allowed to shoot prisoners attempting to escape."
- Casey Muller
Details, details.
- Paul Buchheit
I seem to recall hearing that the Geneva convention essentially says that it's the duty of POWs to try to escape.
- Gabe
So long as there's a risk involved in trying to escape. If they kill someone trying to escape, how do they message that to the other inmates? Gotta use it as a deterrent, right?
- Kevin Fox
haha, good catch casey ;)
- bob
House Season Finale Filmed Entirely with Canon 5D Mark II - http://www.petapixel.com/2010...
İlter Kalkancı, Tudor Bosman, Kishore Balakrishnan and 8 other people liked this
"The season finale of the popular TV show House, which will air on May 17th, was filmed entirely with the Canon 5D Mark II."
- Casey Muller
from Bookmarklet
Eliminating Perverse Incentives « Adapt Already - http://adaptalready.wordpress.com/2010...
April Buchheit liked this
Ah moral hazard
- Casey Muller
SERGIO ARAGONES Mad Avatar - http://www.slashfilm.com/wp...
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Benjamin Golub, Jon and Casey Muller liked this
Pretty good, there's another one here: http://www.slashfilm.com/2010...
- Casey Muller
How Many People Can the Earth Support? - http://adaptalready.wordpress.com/2010...
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Overly simplistic policies focused on near term reductions in consumption OR population growth are likely to fail. Each requires a long term strategy acknowledging the slow pace of various forms of change. What’s more, successful policy interventions may not be direct.
- Ryan
from Bookmarklet
Sounds like an interesting book. Are there any non-simplistic policies that he suggested might work?
- Casey Muller
I don't think Cohen points to any particular policy intervention because he is looking at population with a global perspective, and it's not really realistic to implement anything at that level which would have important impacts at a local level. For limiting population growth, Cohen seems to advocate education above all else. In particular, education for girls in poor countries. Doing...
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- Ryan
from email
Thank you for this voicemail transcription, Google Voice:
Bertrand Doux, "Fatih !", Zu from AOD and 48 other people liked this
Wow. What was the actual message?
- Michael R. Bernstein
I love Google Voice, but the transcription skills are uh lacking
- Bryan R. Adams
Well, in this case the last three quarters is some kind of busy signal, so it's a trick question :-)
- Casey Muller
Hillarious :-)
- Shahaf Abileah
Yeah their transcriptions are atrocious
- LANjackal
I've found them to be just awful or spot-on. Then again, I've seen the same with Gmail's spam filter. Some accounts are terrific at blocking spam and others are pretty bad.
- Kevin Fox
It's fascinating what comes out of statistical learning when something goes wrong. I just got a transcription that said "Hi. See you later." The audio was just a couple of clicks. But those phrases make sense statistically, if you assume the caller must have said *something*. The good news is that it will most likely get a *lot* better over time, as more training data becomes available.
- Joel Webber
Joel: sounds like a pretty accurate translation to me.
- Jim Norris
Secret lover trying to spit it out
- Will Higgins™
"Please take your name off your phone number, my wife went through my messages. I'm in deep doo doo"
- Bryan R. Adams
lol lol lol lol *BREATHE* lol lol LOL LOL
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Don't forget to donate bad voicemail transcriptions: http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2009... Given that Google Voice respects your privacy, providing voicemails as training data has to be an opt-in decision.
- Matt Cutts
Plight of the Modern Man - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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The line for Southwest was so long it stretched into the international terminal. A little bit of rain resulted in a 4 hour delay, so I decided to make this video while I waited. Nothing compared to the 24 hour delay I am currently experiencing.
- Jon
That sucks, hopefully your employers will understand.
- Casey Muller
Well my boss is kind of a pain in the ass, but I think I can get him to understand.
- Jon
Yeah the battery on my phone died right before the Queen arrived so I didn't take a photo. She was pretty spectacular. I was more excited to finally get on my plane so I didn't wait to get an autograph.
- Jon
European privacy conference requires you to hand over your passport to get a translation headset. #privacyisironic
Karen Padham Taylor, IvIotor, Christian (Simply X) and 2 other people liked this
That is so awesome!
- Ana
Maybe they're going to randomly swap all the RFIDs.
- Casey Muller
Slippy, come on, she was being ironic by not being ironic ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
+1 LogEx. 'Isn't it Ironic' is an excellent title because 'it' is a self-reference to the song's title which refers to a song which is not at all ironic. Which is therefore ironic.
- Kevin Fox
Can someone explain to me why Buffett has kept BRK.A so expensive and not split it? What does Berkshire Hathaway have to gain from it? - http://www.google.com/finance...
Roney Smith, Jérôme, Dan Hsiao and 3 other people liked this
I understand it keeps smaller, "inferior" investors out but I'm not sure why you'd want this.
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
It also keeps trading down - which apparently has kept Berkshire Hathaway from entering the S&P 500 because there is a minimum trading threshold. I can't really think of a negative to being in the S&P 500. There are probably some short turn positives though (any index fund tracking it would have to start purchasing BRK and drive up the price a bit)
- Benjamin Golub
“Were we to split the stock or take other actions focusing on stock price rather than business value, we would attract an entering class of buyers inferior to the existing class of sellers,” Buffett wrote in his 1983 annual report, when the Class A shares traded for about $1,300. “Would a potential one- share purchaser be better off if we split 100-for-1 so he could buy 100 shares?...
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- Ken Sheppardson
...based on what I've read and seen, I think your first impression is right: it's about keeping out the smaller "inferior" investors. i don't think he's exactly a man of the people. two uninformed cents.
- .LAG liked that
Yeah I read that too (which is where I got the "inferior" in quotes from). I think at some point you just can't ignore that ridiculous price though. (and I think that point has come and gone long ago :P)
- Benjamin Golub
"Buffett has long been opposed to stock splits for Berkshire’s class A shares...Buffett’s opposition to the move stems from his theory that investors should think of themselves as partners in a company and not short-term traders" from http://blogs.wsj.com/marketb...
- Shea
Well, keeping the price high keeps volume a whole lot lower and probably dampens out a lot of volatility that really doesn't have any benefit to the company. It's really more of a "private" company with an open pool of investors than a "public" company.
- Ken Sheppardson
If I owned a single share I wouldn't feel like a partner. I'd feel like a prisoner.
- Benjamin Golub
I'll bet if you owned a share you'd probably have enough money that you'd never actually think about it. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
...ha! One share, at $100K+ ...yeah, that would make you feel like barging into a board meeting and demanding changes... I mean, the $100K part. And then, you realize: you only hold ONE share. jeez!
- .LAG liked that
Holding a BRKA also grants you admission to the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting, which is supposed to be awesome. If you want to buy less, there are brokers that let you buy fractional shares, like sharebuilder, and mutual funds that hold a lot of BRK, for example BTF: http://www.boulderfunds.net/BTF%20H...
- Casey Muller
Benjamin - Why don't you buy BRK.b? http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/compab.... 1/30th price but 1/200 the privileges :)
- Atul Arora
Casey, what's supposed to be awesome about the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting?
- Dan Hsiao
IMHO, the liquidity advantages of B shares are a selling point.
- Sean O'Connor
Sergey Brin: "As much as some people mentioned that it appears unattractive to investors, it appears it benefits us marketing-wise for our end-consumers to see the financial success of the company by virtue of a higher stock price (...) Google won't rule out a split in the future" http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
- Jérôme
Dan, I've heard it called the woodstock of investing, that kind of thing. And all of the BRK subsidiaries have a big fair with discounts for shareholders.
- Casey Muller
Oops! Since my Canon S90 order at Amazon was backordered, I placed one at J&R Music where they claimed it was in stock, planning to cancel Amazon if J&R came through. Today within 10 minutes of each other I got shipment notifications for both. Anyone local want to buy one new in box for cost?
Josh Haley, Ken Sheppardson and Benjamin Golub liked this
Would Rachel use it?
- Benjamin Golub
It wouldn't surprise me if Amazon just gave you pre-paid return label for it if you explain what happened to them.
- Ken Sheppardson
Or just refuse shipment on the Amazon one. I did that once. Got a refund in about 2 weeks no problem. But you have to be at home (or have someone at home) ready to refuse the shipment.
- Benjamin Golub
Actually I think you can just leave a note saying you refuse the shipment.
- Casey Muller
I think if you're not home and they leave an InfoNotice, you can just call in and have them return the item to the shipper.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yep. Can even do it through ups.com... "If you have received a UPS InfoNotice after one delivery attempt has been made, you can change your delivery options on ups.com. Your options are ... Return to Sender: Return the shipment to the shipper" -- http://www.ups.com/content...
- Ken Sheppardson
$429.95, Kevin? (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-P...). Or $429.99? (http://www.jr.com/canon...) That .04 difference may be a deal-breaker!
- Stephen Mack
Arbitrage opportunity.
- Ken Sheppardson
I might want it if no one else has claimed it. Let me know.
- Michael Leggett
from iPhone
I bid 85% of cost. :-P
- Daniel Dulitz
Having just biked all the way to Best Buy, who claimed to have them in stock but did not, I hereby bid cost plus lunch at the establishment of your choice next week. :-)
- Trisha
Whoops, I left an appliance on last weekend while traveling:
Ross Miller, Dominique Lemieux, Mitch and 20 other people liked this
Or maybe somebody comes and steals your electric while you're away from home.
- Gabe
What do you use to generate this?
- Benjamin Golub
How do you monitor your daily energy use?
- Philippe
Seriously, where do you get this energy use graph?
- AJ Kohn
PG&E has daily and hourly graphs on their website actually; they're very web 2.0
- Casey Muller
from iPhone
Yes, available for anyone who has the new smart meter installed.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
Kewl! Now if only smart meters can be deployed here in my country :-/
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
Hope it wasn't the blender!
- Adrienne
Thanks, taken care of.
- Casey Muller
wow, y'all are fast.
- Andrew C (✓)
Federer is amazing. This is the coolest shot I have ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Eiso Kant, Dave Martin, Phil Glockner and 46 other people liked this
On SportsCenter they made it seem like Nadal had done it the match before though. I dunno if they were messing with the timeline.
- Casey Muller
Although Nadal lost the point.
- Casey Muller
OMG!
- vitzbank (aka claudio)
Amazing! He tried one like that at Match point in the fourth set of the 2005 Australian Open final against Safin - it didn't work, and he went on to lose the match in the fifth set...
- Michael Nielsen
I only saw it because I tuned in for 60 Minutes early. Not really a tennis fan, but I can certainly appreciate that shot.
- Tom Landini
awesome match. I've seen federer put a few of these winners in before, so awesome.
- Art
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG PIE LOLLIPOPS!!! http://www.luxirare.com/search...
Jeanette Bosman liked this
Wow, amazing looking.
- Casey Muller
I feel like the filling-crust ratio would be off on these . . .
- sara
Yeah, she mentions needing to get the crust really thin if you don't want to be eating pie-dough-on-a-stick
- Casey Muller
You couldn't pay me to make them, though. Covering each stick with tin foil?
- polly hall
OMG People is dying! Somebody found a method to post to FF for any user via email! He or she can post in the name of other users. http://friendfeed.com/selcuke... AND http://friendfeed.com/mserdar... These users reported this issue!
Thomas Amberg, Mike Chelen, Kim and 10 other people liked this
A big security vulnerability. They must be using share@friendfeed.com http://friendfeed.com/share... Something is also wrong here: http://ff.im/7YcW0
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
A true story. OMFG!
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
think bigger MVB... now 'you' can post duds in Nayyar's feed ;P
- vijay
Bret is pwned, too: http://friendfeed.com/bret...
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
LOL MVB and vijay
- Josh Haley
We're working on it right now. Email posting is disabled until the problem is fixed.
- Casey Muller
Thanks.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Email posting is back up, the bug has been fixed.
- Tudor Bosman
Good to know the FF team is still there to fix the bug! Thanks guys. I really hope Facebook does something useful with the platform so all is not lost.
- Kris
OMG OMG OMG
- joshed
The technology behind Tornado, FriendFeed's web server - Bret Taylor's blog - http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
Aloch Rye, "Serhat Ozan", Bryan Tsai and 274 other people liked this
We have open sourced our web server. Download it at http://www.tornadoweb.org/. Check out the Facebook announcement at http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
See a live chat demo: http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/
- Casey Muller
Wow! Thanks so much, Bret and co!
- Doug Beeferman
this was very interesting; good job
- RAPatton
neat
- anna sauce
I wonder what the engineering decision was to not use a WSGI interface.
- mikepk
mikepk: it supports WSGI, but it is not WSGI by default because WSGI does not support non-blocking I/O for things like hanging connections. See http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen....
- Bret Taylor
This actually is a very good piece of code! Thanks folks!
- directeur
cool, Bret, thanks :) I was just heading through the docs now.
- mikepk
Thanks for doing this, Bret! That's some pretty cool stuff.
- Keith Bourgoin
that's great. thanks..
- deerstep
oh man, this is so awesome, thanks guys!
- Charles Ying
Is "tonado" a typo?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm hacking my own python web framework at the moment, so now the choice on whether I want to switch gears to this or not. I'm liking what I see so far.
- mikepk
Bruce: Yes
- Casey Muller
Wow.. Thanks!! pretty much makes my day.. which is scary in it's own rite.
- Chris Myles
Great news! Cheers to the FF team!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice new title Brett.."Facebook Director of Products".. a good sign of things to come!
- Chris Myles
very very glad to hear this bit: "Tornado is a core piece of infrastructure that powers FriendFeed's real-time functionality, which we plan to actively maintain."
- Chris Heath
Great work
- James Myatt
Franz: enables widespread adoption which leads to greater influence of the technique
- Mike Chelen
So excited this is out. So many personal projects I have been wanting to build with it :)
- Bret Taylor
Fantastic, Bret (and team)!
- Micah
A very good project!...you know if will be possibile to use Tornado with other technogies except Python (such as JEE, Ruby On Rails, etc.)?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Cristo: we tried to use the official Python coding conventions, though we may have inadvertently strayed. Those conventions are: ClassNames, method_names, variable_names
- Bret Taylor
Brilliant! I hope you can provide very valuable input for the next round of #python WSGI, which desperately needs a next round ;)
- Uche Ogbuji
Re: WSGI needing help, see http://www.b-list.org/weblog...
- Uche Ogbuji
grt
- Xitong Liu
"Facebook's opensource technologies" link is broken on tornadoweb.org ..
- deerstep
Onur, worked for me - and still works now
- Chris Heath
Very cool, in case someone needs a high-end Web Server for a project, FriendFeed just open-sourced theirs, & apparently, it screams..
- Alex Schleber
Nicola: there is a Ruby example - http://gist.github.com/184760
- Mike Chelen
thx Mike, but this is a kind of eventmachine (that sounds good) for Ruby, not a Tornado client or wrapper...isn't it?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Excellent! Thank you. Was eagerly waiting for the day to come after looking this just 1 month ago; "changeset: 5afb8a445cad / date: 2009-08-11 16:34:48 / description: Initial open source packages" http://changelog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- NaHi
from m.ctor.org
Chris, yes it is fixed.. I swear it was broken ..
- deerstep
Good catch, NaHi. :)
- Micah
Thanks guys. Really appriciated.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
That's great. thanks Bret :-)
- Nimaa
Nice job on the non-blocking stuff Bret!
- Mitchell Tsai
"We have open sourced our web server" @bret took over a year but is worth the wait. thx for the follow through ~ http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Peter Renshaw
Ohhh, ummm, btw, your underhanded behind the scenes sell out still rankles my human decency, & a lot of others too, as should yours...thumbs down/dislike x 47.5 million dollars, however not being bitter of course, keep ignorance & bliss
- The Real sofarsoShawn
that's the sound of I believe 100000000? or so hands clapping...& giving you the BOOOO-URNS if I'm not mistaken...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
oh you sonsabitchez this fscking rules! why so badass, ff? thank. you. :)
- mike
So, can we say; Python is the future?
- Özkan Altuner
Nice code. Started to look at it today. Thanks for doing this. Now to start testing this on some projects I had been working on.
- Altan Khendup
Diego: we run on Linux.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret just out of curiosity - what would necessitate usage of such an engine for a *personal* project? :)
- Michael Bravo
Michael: it is a nice framework to use for any project in my opinion (though I am clearly biased). If you are doing anything real-time like the chat demo, something like Tornado is certainly necessary/useful regardless of the size of the project.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret and for little-sized hardware? should have try it on Maemo based :)))
- A. T.
@silpol I kinda fail to see Maemo devices being used for servers (unless it's some kind of satellite-based or other covert server maybe :) )
- Michael Bravo
from IM
@mbravo you never know... there are some unusual (and cool) apps for web servers, granted you abstain (on purpose) from classical models, e.g.server farm somewhere there and herds of clients connecting to it...
- A. T.
I think this is the best answer for the ultimate question: "Does python needs yet another web framework?" While most of us would say why, when one come across this, a real world proven technology, serving zillions of pages a day, one would say, well, why not. actually, why not even take it an try to integrate out next web app with it? great job! seems like joining FB won't do you any harm ;-)
- Tzury Bar Yochay
We've seen tornado vs twisted, how about tornado vs rails? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tzury Bar Yochay
http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/ It doesn't work. I'd like to see chat.js :)
- Анатолий Шарифулин
FriendFeed's web server, open sourced? This is great! Welcoome, Tornado!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Bret: how do you proxy long-living connections through nginx? Vanilla nginx buffers everything.
- Alex Kapranoff
nginx has a configuration option to turn off buffering.
- Tristan Seligmann
I've recieved about 8 duplicate emails saying the same user has subbed me in the last hour
Kol Tregaskes, SmiteMe (I <3 elitists) and anna sauce liked this
same bug http://ff.im/7Ybw3
- Hüseyin Mert
I had 6.
- @barisunver #beyn.org
I had 5, hey that's important!
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
I've received 6 consecutive "Best of Your FriendFeed" emails
- Brad Williamson
i had 7.
- Yusuf Nays
Sorry everybody, for a brief period this afternoon we were sending out duplicate emails. The problem should have been fixed, please let us know if you received any duplicates after 3pm Pacific.
- Casey Muller
You may want to give a look at http://friendfeed.com/friendf... http://friendfeed.com/bret... -- submitting it here since AFAIK you guys get notifications from this channel.
Kol Tregaskes liked this
We're working on it right now. Email posting is disabled until the problem is fixed.
- Casey Muller
What is the right method for fetch room feed in api v1? $feed = $friendfeed->fetch_user_feed("friendfeed-api", 0, 0, 30); doesnt work though $feed = $friendfeed->fetch_user_feed("any user name here", 0, 0, 30); does. fetch_feed also doesnt work. Note that this is php.
In v1 there are different methods for fetching users and rooms. User: http://friendfeed.com/api... Room: http://friendfeed.com/api....
- Benjamin Golub
beersage, if you open up the friendfeed.php file and find where fetch_user_feed is defined, you can copy that function and replace each place where it says "user" with "room" to get a new fetch_room_feed function.
- Casey Muller
Or it should work to just do fetch_feed("/api/feed/room/" . urlencode($roomname), null, 0, 30)
- Casey Muller
I keep getting a foreach error both when I try to change user to room or try the 2nd method you mentioned. I must need to change the code elsewhere but am not sure how? Here's the code: http://groups.google.com/group...
- beersage
Sorry, let me correct. I get "Fatal error: Call to undefined method FriendFeed::fetch_room_feed()" when I switch user to room
- beersage
beersage: you have to define the function fetch_room_feed if you want to use it. Or just follow Casey's other advice. It should work.
- Benjamin Golub
I foolishly misinterpreted Casey's advice before! It worked even with the private feed however it stalled for a long period (2 mins) and then I refreshed and it worked fast. is v2 faster for authentication?
- beersage
Feed fetching should be on the order of 100s of milliseconds, not minutes. Try the curl command I posted in http://friendfeed.com/friendf.... I just did it on a private feed and it returned in 400ms (will vary based on where you live and your internet connection).
- Benjamin Golub
Using the XMPP service - Google App Engine - Google Code - http://code.google.com/intl...
Friendfeed's Francisco, Eiso Kant, abdellah and 22 other people liked this
"With the introduction of the XMPP service to App Engine, it's now possible to write an App Engine app that communicates with users - or even other applications - over XMPP, otherwise known as Jabber or Google Talk. In this article, we're going to walk through an example that covers all the basic functionality of the XMPP API."
- Casey Muller
from Bookmarklet
Robin Sloan's Google Adwords experiment for naming fictional characters - http://www.kickstarter.com/project...
Chris Prince and Benjamin Golub liked this
testing to see which names are most compelling to random Google users
- Andy Baio
The names he chose to test are very similar: Annabel Strange, Annabel Spring, Annabel Sketch, Annabel Scrape, Annabel Start, etc. It would have been more interesting to pick some really different ones.
- Casey Muller
Denote: the easiest way to email yourself notes from the iPhone - Little Itch blog - http://littleitch.com/blog...
berchman, Robin Barooah, sara and 4 other people liked this
"Denote version 2.0 is now available on the App Store for $.99 USD. This version makes it even easier to use your email inbox for notes and reminders on the iPhone and iPod Touch. The most exciting new feature is that notes are now sent without leaving the application for a faster, smoother experience. This change also makes it easier to send multiple notes in a row. In addition, the email subject intro text, which still defaults to “Denote:”, can now be changed to any value, including setting it to be blank. Even the application icon got a little polishing."
- Jon
from Bookmarklet
"I hope you enjoy these new features. Let us know if we can do anything to improve Denote. Juana Molina’s Un Día was the unofficial theme for this release. The title translates to “one day” which is how long we wish releasing software took."
- Jon
Direct App Store download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jon
Direct iTunes Album download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jon
I can't wait to try this out. The first version made my life easier in very key moments.
- jonathan
Very nice. Is there any way to pick which email account the mail comes from so I don't have to change it every time I send a note?
- Casey Muller
That's a global setting on the phone. You can change that in the Settings app, in the "Mail, Contacts, Calendar" section, change the "Default Account" setting.
- Jon
The one I want for Denote is different than the one I want to send most mail from, but thanks.
- Casey Muller
Cool - the ability to change the intro text means I can use it to send tasks to omnifocus
- Robin Barooah
Oh.....99 cents!
- Michael Muller
I still think that's too little, but I understand it.
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Thanks for mentioning Juana Molina.....I created a new station on Pandora and "Un Dia" came up after a while. I especially liked the rhythm. And it was great to see all the artists new to me on that station. I am so conservative, just the same old Julieta Venegas and Shakira.
- Michael Muller
Her entire discography is amazing. We saw her live a few weeks ago; incredible show. If you get a chance to see her, I highly recommend it.
- Jon
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