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Leo Laporte
What’s TWiT Worth To You? - http://leoville.com/whats-t...
I've discovered that over 70% of my media consumption (TV, music, movies, podcasts, audiobooks, etc) comes from TWIT, but it costs me much less relative to my bills from DirecTV, Netflix, etc. I've been a recurring contributor since the beginning, and will continue. My only fear is that I hope this doesn't lead to Leo trying to constantly please the audience....the vocal minority could ruin it. - Larry
70% really? I listen to Tech, Windows, and Google, but that doesn't come close to what you do @Larry. You should step away from the podcast more often. lol. - Randy Pollock
@Randy, I listen to 10 of the TWIT shows on a regular basis, and only watch about 1 or 2 hours of TV a day at most. I have plenty of time to listen to podcasts throughout the day, but not much time to watch television or movies. - Larry
when i heard you propose this on the live feed the other day i was thinking 'great idea' -- glad to see you've made the decision and went for it - Chris Heath
$5.34 - Fleagle
I hope you talked to your wife before doing this. - Chris Strange
This is just another reason why I love Leo and will continue to contribute. - Kimmie
Twit allowed me to get rid of cable all together. I don't have a TV at all. Twit provides enough steady quality streams so I get all my media from the internet. Without Twit, I'd probably pay for cable again (boooo!) I started the MMR! (minor media revolution=no cable/satellite/antenna, all media from the internet) Viva la MMR! - echostreamer
Leo, will get to the tip jar tomorrow. Thanks for the shows. - Keith Murray from BuddyFeed
Leo, if you are going to talk about Crunchpad this sunday, check out this "investigative" post http://www.e27.sg/2009... - shen heng
good article shen... i'll 'submit' it for twit on delicious by using the for:twit tag so leo might see it - Chris Heath
but it doesn't really come to any conclusions... i want to hear jason calacanis' thoughts on this story - Chris Heath
I Love TWiT and Leo - But, after reading his post I have no idea what this will change or even why he's changed it. - Jim Connolly
Jim... all that's changing is how Leo does his accounting and pays himself. Previously he was paying for fixed costs like severs with the donation money. Now the donation money is his TWiT salary. I guess it simplifies the 'how much should I pay myself' question and also is a kind of measuring stick for success. I'm not sure why the blog post didn't explain enough to you. Do you still have questions? - Chris Heath
Seems like a publicity gimmick to me. And after throwing Pournelle under the bus, you can forget any donation. - Fnord
Fnord... You can disagree with someone and still remain great friends with them... We are all more than one dimension. - Johnny Worthington
how was Pournelle thrown under a bus? what happened? or is Fnord just being contrary ? - Chris Heath
All I can figure is he's talking about this, Chris http://twitter.com/leolapo... http://twitter.com/leolapo... but I think simply disagreeing with somebody really stretches the meaning of "throwing under the bus"... not that it really ever meant anything anyway. - Ken Sheppardson
Honestly I don't want to take anything away from TWIT, I have been watching Mr.Leo Laporte since 2001 and have loved everything you have done. That being said, Last year I cancelled my cable subscription to G4TV. Not because I did'nt enjot it but because I could DL the interesting parts as casts through MIRO. I also DL CNet, Revsion3 many adobe and photography cast not to mention all... more... - CL1PS
I would be willing to pay a few bucks a year...but honestly, TWiT's quality and appeal depends greatly on the guests. Unless you can let users have a more direct say in your panel lineup and/or topics discussed, I don't think it's fair to expect anyone to pay $1-2 each month. I mean, most people probably only listen to TWiT so it's unfair to make it out like each listener will ever take... more... - Scott Carmichael
Leo, I will pay you whatever you want if you keep Loudmouth Calacanis off your show. - Fleagle
Donating for your salary is a no brainer ,I'm happy to keep it up - Randy Nacol
I'll pay double what the Calacanis haters will pay you to keep him off if you get him on at least once a month! - Chris Heath
Calacanis is a smart fella, strong opinion but smart try to listen to twist sometime - alex
I've tried all I care to. There are tons of 'smart' people out there, many of whom are much more pleasant to listen to than that tool. - Fleagle
Well... that's just... like... your opinion... man - Chris Heath
I'm on the same page as Scott, TWiT relies too heavily on Technolebrity personalities who for the most part really have only marginal knowledge of the matters at hand & b/c of time constraints can not explore the topics at hand. Forums and interaction are lacking, for they lay person, yes I'm sure it's interesting, but for a more precise knowledge of technology, the internet and answers... more... - sofarsoShawn
Johnny Worthington
According to this article in PC Mag http://www.pcmag.com/article... the Crunchpad is now the JooJoo. It goes onto say that Arrington and Rathakrishnan only had a verbal agreement and some promises from Arrington never materialized... Now I don't want to get all MOB-y but this thing just gets better every day...
Leo Laporte
Live now: The Tech Guy radio show with Leo Laporte. http://live.twit.tv. Today at 3p Pacific: TWiT with Dvorak, Baratunde, and Gold.
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Hearing you 5 by 5 Leo... let's get this show on the road! http://techguylabs.com - Chris Heath
Leo, yesterday's call about solar power in Madagascar lead me to find this: http://www.rewarestore.com/pockets... - they also have bags with solar panels on the side, and say they're working on a solution for laptops. - tollie williams
http://microsoft.com/securit... --> Free antivirus/anti-malware - Chris Heath
http://malwarebytes.org --> MalwareBytes Anti-Malware (run in safemode w/ networking so you can get updates) - Chris Heath
Start --> Run --> mrt.exe - Chris Heath
What VOIP service was Leo and the current caller talking about? - Ward Seward
GigaOm article about the iPod Touch - http://gigaom.com/2009... - Chris Heath
hi from acold day ga - daveccorey
great Twit format. Leo + Dvorak + (insert other regular here) + hipster tech blogger + alcohol + most guests in the studio = Twit is the best network anywhere. - echostreamer
that was actually TWiT ... techguy is on before from 2-5pm eastern twit is on at 6pm eastern - Chris Heath
I didnt see today's episode, but the usual format is great with Leo, Dvorak, a couple other regulars talking tech and alcohol in the cottage. Great streams. - echostreamer
leo has been very lax in starting friendfeed rooms... i've taken to commenting on the stories directly http://friendfeed.com/twit-st... or on saturdays for TWiG http://friendfeed.com/twit-tw... - Chris Heath
Jeff Macpherson
NSFWshow MONDAY night, with @drtiki and @amtrekker playing our "youBooze" drinking game: http://NSFWshow.com (via @amtrekker)
Paul Buchheit
EtherPad is Back Online Until Open Sourced - http://etherpad.com/ep...
Awesome. "# We have re-enabled pad creation from the EtherPad home page. # We have begun planning how to open source the code to EtherPad and the underlying AppJet Web Framework. We will continue maintaining new pad creation from the EtherPad home page at least until we have open sourced the code, and work hard to make sure there will be no or minimal service disruption in the future. # We are working with the Google Wave team to get all EtherPad users a chance to try out the Google Wave preview within the next couple of weeks." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Who's going to host it once Google stops? - Gabe
Everyone who wants to. This isn't the kind of thing that needs to be hosted in a single location. The already made a self-hosted version, so it shouldn't be that difficult. - Paul Buchheit
I bet this will become pretty popular btw -- Etherpad is a great collaboration tool. - Paul Buchheit
I'm sure that's small consolation to most of EtherPad's users. - Gabe
Why? This seems even better because now you can do anything with it. - Paul Buchheit
Do you really think that most of EtherPad's users have the ability and wherewithal to find their own hosting for it and get it working? Instead of a tool that's easy for everybody to use, it becomes a tool that only tech-savvy people can use. - Gabe
I'm sure some of them do Gabe. It's a little like Wordpress -- you can run it yourself, or let someone else do it. - Paul Buchheit
@gabe those who don't want to bother with hosting will probably just use google-wave. etherpad will stay as a niche "pro tool" - Indeyets
I'd like to see my office host Etherpad. But I certainly won't be hosting it. All I've got to work with is a laptop that's on for a few hours a day and a dynamic IP. Not ideal. - Mitch
Still, great news. - Mitch
I'd like to see if we can get it on App Engine. - Benjamin Golub from fftogo
I don't think AppEngine will be able to do it because it can't keep connections open. Maybe they'll fix that eventually though. - Paul Buchheit
Open source is great (and it's better than no source), but it's no panacea. The number of people who can even compile a major app are relatively few, and the number of people who can actually maintain an app that they didn't write are way fewer. - Gabe
Gabe, it's already made to be easy to deploy -- people don't need to compile or maintain it in order to use it. The notion that _everyone_ has to be able to get into the source in order to benefit from open source is nonsense. - Paul Buchheit
If many people are willing to pay for a hosted version, it'll happen. - Peng-Toh
Paul, I was making an analogy to open source (that fact that you can recompile any app is useful only to those who have the time and ability to do so). The fact that anybody with the time and ability to host EtherPad is great. That's of no use to the current users who don't have the ability. - Gabe
Gabe, you're assuming that nobody will be willing to host EtherPad and allow others to use it, which seems unlikely to me. - Paul Buchheit
Paul: I don't doubt others will host it, but it's still going to cause problems for the majority of their users. If Google announced that they were shutting down Gmail but would open-source it, would you say "Great, now anybody can host it"? Or would you say "Oh great, now I have to find another host, hope they're as reliable, open a new account, figure out how to transfer all my emails, tell everybody my new address, and pray it all goes smoothly"? - Gabe
The two aren't really comparable since Etherpad doesn't have all the switching costs of email. - Paul Buchheit
With EtherPad you have to find another host, hope they're as reliable, open a new account, figure out how to transfer all of your pads, tell everybody the new URLs, and pray it all goes smoothly. It seems pretty comparable to me. - Gabe
I don't have to do any of those things Gabe. I never created an account in the first place, and the pads that I care about are the ones that I have not yet created. - Paul Buchheit
Paul: Perhaps I should have qualified my comments as applying to non-anonymous users, then. Clearly you do not have nearly the vested interest in the service as those who were complaining. - Gabe
I bet many of the people complaining hadn't even used it before. - Paul Buchheit
Yes, Paul, just like many of the people who think it's great that they were bought. :) - Gabe
Etherpad has an import/export feature that will make it very easy to move. You can also download a single zip file of all your archived etherpads. Seems like the transition to a new Etherpad host should be very simple. The only difficult part might be re-initiating the other pad editors. - Mitch
This Week In Tech stories
"Bandwidth hogs" join unicorns in realm of mythical creatures - http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...
Johnny Worthington
The whole Global Warming thing is being pitched incorrectly...
The planet doesn't need saving. Short of blowning it up into tiny pieces, the Earth will exist loooooong after we die out. It will find it's balance. What we need to talk about is how the earth is changing, and our role in that, and how that effects the survial of our species (and those species required to sustain ours). The climate change debate needs to get selfish. The planet doesn't need saving, we do... - Johnny Worthington from email
*Goes looking for Death Star* - Roberto Bonini
*Goes to find teddy bears with spears* - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
*Continues roasting ewoks on large grille* - Mo Kargas
*saves the drippings and starts making gravy* - Joe Silence is not dead
Hehe, I remember that point being made in The Daily Mash a while back: "I'LL BE JUST FINE, SAYS PLANET " - http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news... - Eivind
This Week In Tech stories
Robin Williams plays Call of Duty, named his daughter Zelda (guess why!) - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
Though we may not be steadfast watchers of Jimmy Fallon's late night talkshow, we have to give the man credit for once again bringing the world of gaming into his decidedly non-gaming television show. While Robin Williams guested on Fallon's show this week, he asked the hairy-handed comedian about his gaming habits – some of which we've covered in the past – and found out that not only does the man play his fair share of Call of Duty, but he also named his daughter "Zelda" after ... well, the Princess Zelda.
Leo Laporte
Live now: This Week in Google with comic Heather Gold, new journalist Jeff Jarvis, and goddess Gina Trapani. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
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What about video podcasts on iTunes, Leo?? - Roberto Bonini
"new journalist"? - Gideon Guillen
I guess this counts as cloud news? "Apple Acquires Streaming Music Service Lala" http://mashable.com/2009... :-) - Holger Eilhard
I don't often bring sledgehammers to computer repairs ;) - Roberto Bonini
What about the feedly extension?? - Roberto Bonini
How about privacy issues of using Google's DNS servers? - Gideon Guillen
It's good right now that Google doesn't redirect you to Google search if you enter a wrong or mistype a domain. It breaks some protocols, like anti-spam measures. - Gideon Guillen
John Houseman died in 1988. - Bob Watts
I got 10 out of 10 in cnbc google iq test - Siouxmoux Riopel
Is it terrible to have a lot of the useless dribble of the Murdoch empire hidden from us? Loved the Palpatine analogy. - Bob Watts
Question for Gina: Where did she get that microphone?? - Roberto Bonini
top show people - Chris Aslanis
Colleen sent it to her Roberto... it's a countryman - Chris Heath
good show from a vert cold night in ga - daveccorey
I WAMA LEZBEAN SHOW - daveccorey
Ah. Interesting. Could hardly see it. One seriously cool mic. - Roberto Bonini
Missed the live broadcast today so I have to wait until Leo releases the podcast, but is this going to be another Google love fest? Don't get me wrong, I love TWIG, but TWIG is wearing thin with me. Leo does a much better job with Windows Weekly and Mac Break Weekly. More balanced. For example, Paul Thourott loves Microsoft but at least he's honest about MS's shortcomings and isn't afraid of saying so. - Brian Denicola
Brian, they scolded google for closing etherpad abruptly (maybe it was the etherpad people that did that, but still) - however i just heard that etherpad was restored and is to be opensourced so good on google then after stumbling horribly http://friendfeed.com/jeffjar... - Chris Heath
Chris - Thanks for the update! - Brian Denicola
Schadenfreude
The ultimate F-U from Wall Street to all of us: "2BG2FAIL" is the vanity plate that the Vice-Chairman of Morgan Stanley has on his Porsche - Matt Taibbi - Taibblog - True/Slant - http://trueslant.com/matttai...
The ultimate F-U from Wall Street to all of us: "2BG2FAIL" is the vanity plate that the Vice-Chairman of Morgan Stanley has on his Porsche - Matt Taibbi - Taibblog - True/Slant
The ultimate F-U from Wall Street to all of us: "2BG2FAIL" is the vanity plate that the Vice-Chairman of Morgan Stanley has on his Porsche - Matt Taibbi - Taibblog - True/Slant
"I’m going to give this one at least an 8 on the funniness scale, leaning toward a 9. The plate belongs to Morgan Stanley Vice-Chairman Rob Kindler. The blunt double-entendre obviously referencing his banker-member, for which the Porsche-in-middle-age is already an overcompensating signal to the rest of the world, adds significantly to the humor for me. Thoughts?" - Schadenfreude from Bookmarklet
My thoughts: sonuvabitch. - Schadenfreude
Kinda cocky, yes. - Rene Wirtz
When the lynch mobs come they'll burn it under the tree he swings from.... - WarLord
Douchebag - Mark Krynsky from iPhone
Perhaps he can pull a Tiger Woods, but at higher speed and more solid tree :P - Rene Wirtz
If you follow the link to the blog, someone commented "His soul? 2Small2Detect" - Spidra Webster
My oh my :( . There's a real sense that bankers don't understand how disliked they are. - winckel
SHUT IT DOWN /lemon - Logan Lindquist
Benjamin Golub
We are working to bring FriendFeed back as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience.
So, you are leaving Facebook and returning FriendFeed to it's former greatness?! ;) - JA Castillo
Thanks Ben and pals! You guys rock! - Josh Haley from iPhone
Thanks for such a great service. - ashish
Thanks guys - zeroinfluencer
Thanks! - Ruchira S. Datta
What does this mean? Does it refer to the Twitter blockade? - Steve Gillmor from iPhone
Thanks guys. Thank you very much!! - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
steve friendfeed was not available this morning...the message refers to that. not seeing any appreciable break in the twitter blockade. - Karoli
I actually got a complaint from someone who follows me on Twitter about link flooding coming from Friendfeed, so it's good the blockade is there, for now at least. - Mr. Gunn
Ben, while you're at it, can you fix whatever broke Amazon wishlists? Thanks! - Michael R. Bernstein
Plus the Desktop Notifier. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
The blockade is in the other direction. If Twitter won't acknowlege it then Facebook is effectively killing the service. - Steve Gillmor from iPhone
Give full support and resources to Mr. Golub!! We all want a thing from that post, even without its context 8). - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
What's up with FF links not showing up on Twitter? It's been that way for about a week. The FF link interface has always confused me. And now it doesn't work. - A Mitchell
Seems to be working here but Twitter posta are delayed by 20 minutes to two hours due to legal issues - Steve Gillmor from iPhone
Thanks very much! It was back up as soon as I saw your tweet. - MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
thank you for all your work, :) - chaz2b
I have had some problems with pages fully loading since it came back, Home feed and Best of Day in particular. Posts at the bottom of the page are cut off and like, comments, and expanding to read comments is impossible unless I open the individual posts in a new window. Very frustrating. - April Russo (app103)
Links are still not coming through from FriendFeed to Twitter. I'm not making this up. - A Mitchell
Schadenfreude
OK, Sarah Palin, if you're going to get into this birther nonsense, produce the birth certificate that proves Trig is really your son. --The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
OK, Sarah Palin, if you're going to get into this birther nonsense, produce the birth certificate that proves Trig is really your son. --The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
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'I noted that this is a lie. The Palins have never released Trig's birth certificate or proved that he is Palin's kid. If she had, I would have posted it on this blog. In fact, we all begged for it in the campaign. And yet she simply said so outright on a radio show. The Dish appears to be the only high-traffic blog to point this out. No one in the MSM has noted that her statement is a lie. And when you examine the blogosphere's response to this, you find the same glaring avoidance of "what is in front of our nose"' - Schadenfreude from Bookmarklet
Always different rules for Sarah, Caribou Barbie always gets bye - WarLord
Jeff Jarvis
Google listened. Quickly. RT @mkapor: Etherpad service fully restored, will be open sourced http://etherpad.com/ep...
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This Week In Google
Fastest rising queries in 2009: Twitter, Michael Jackson, Facebook, Hulu
This Week In Google
Google taking on OpenDNS
good story google doesn't hijack or redirect... plain jane dns - opendns and google are about the same speed for me - ben golub is sticking with his isp cuz they're faster http://friendfeed.com/bgolub... - Chris Heath
Already using it :) I can't say I've noticed any difference. - Michal
This Week In Google
Etherpad Goes to Google - Just Another Silicon Valley Soap Opera - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Marshall Kirkpatrick feels "toyed" by the cycle: leave google, start company, return to google
This Week In Google
AJ Batac
"Good news is that I truly out did myself this year with my Christmas decorations. The bad news is that I had to take him down after two days. I had more people come screaming up to my house than ever. Great stories. But two things made me take it down. First, the cops advised me that it would cause traffic accidents as they almost wrecked when they drove by." - AJ Batac from Bookmarklet
Second, a 55 year old lady grabbed the 75 pound ladder almost killed herself putting it against my house and didn’t realize that it was fake until she climbed to the top (she was not happy). By the way, she was one of the many people who attempted to do that. My yard couldn’t take it either. I have more than a few tire tracks where people literally drove up my yard.” - AJ Batac
Jeff Jarvis
Good Eric Schmidt op-ed in today's WSJ (enemy territory) on GOOG and news. More later: http://online.wsj.com/article...
Leo Laporte
Just wrapped: This Week In Google 18n with Jeff Jarvis, Gina Trapani, and Mashable's Pete Cashmore. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
Where can we download the video? Still only odtv 4 days after the live show? Only roku? any direct download links coming up on twit.tv? - Charbax
Tease: Did Google responds to controversial results, what wave needs to win, and why Leo thinks it's ok for Google to own the world. - Leo Laporte
http://mediafly.com/Browse... you should be able to download from there but it looks like they've only got the audio versions right now. they will eventually get the video versions (over the next week?) so you could subscribe there... or as leo said subscribe/download from the twit.tv website when the video goes live there (which will be soon also) - Chris Heath
Super cool, how long does it take before the video is up on mediafly? Anyway that a version could be released within minutes after the live show? - Charbax
doubt it charbax, they do some post editing to cut in the intros and the cold opens etc - Chris Heath
It'd be cool also if mediafly could somehow let people stream on-demand not only in real-time but as a DVR, so people can watch it from the start if they tune in a half hour late - Charbax
yeah that would be cool... they will have the live stream at least... that leo has said is in the works - Chris Heath
Wish I had a better method to get TWiT videos on my TivoHD! Leo, you worked something out with Roku - talk to TiVo, please! - David Gallo
It was a great show Leo. Cashmore is a keeper. - Thom Kennon
hello there.... - Pam Gwenzi
Darn it. I missed it. But, but, but there will be a podcast... yippee - Captain Kangaroo
does TWIG have an public wave that everyone can assosiate with? is so, how do i add it to my wave account? - Adi Spivak
The ROKU deal is awesome. Between TWIT and MediaFly I've got most of my podcasts coming in on my tv now. - Jim Meeker
A few universities are working together on an alternative to google books: http://www.hathitrust.org/about - jccalhoun
looks like you can download it here if you missed it. http://www.twit.tv/twig18 - kevin williams
I really don't understand what do people asking "should Google own the scans?" mean -- they want Google's data to be nationalized, or do they advocate preventing Google from acquiring the data in the first place? It's the same with people who are bitching that Google's book scans are too low quality. Google probably calculated the cost and profit of the whole exercise and are doing it in such way as to make the project possible at all. If you think the world needs better quality scans, go ahead and do it. - Michal
hey colean good show grom a dreary rainy day in georgia - daveccorey
Adi, there isn't an official wave, there are waves though... search for twig with:public there are a bunch of waves available to surf on with the twig tag (and the with:public attribute) - Chris Heath
Jim, the deal was with MediaFly, and they have a deal with Roku. Making the deal with MediaFly is good for TWiT since MediaFly then goes and makes the deals with roku, and makes the apps for the blackberry, android, etc, and makes deals with xbox and ps3 etc... and leo only needs to deal with the mediafly people... anyways, just and fyi - Chris Heath
Michal, i'm of the opinion that this endeavor should be undertaken by the library of congress or some other organization (with companies like google helping out) ... google asserting copyright on derivative (the scan) of a public domain work is just laughable and doesn't make any sense at all - Chris Heath
Just finished listening to TWIG. IMHO: Leo please give us more objectivity. This is like a bible class - no questioning of whether God exists but just a mild debate of the literal nature of the message. Example: you gave Apple a harder time for snow leopard update than you did Chrome and all of the obvious issues it creates. No debate about the failing just mild justification for how... more... - Colin Bruce
Balance isn't always what's needed, IMHO you get farther sometimes by pushing in one direction and not being pulled in the opposite - TWiG is more technical and doesn't really seek to opine on the news (like TWiT) but explain it - Chris Heath
Jeff P. Henderson
2011 Chevrolet Volt gets taken for a test drive -- Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
2011 Chevrolet Volt gets taken for a test drive -- Engadget
The Chevy Volt is one vehicle we can really get behind. It's hard not to be a little excited over it -- we have, after all, been watching its development for quite a long time now. The electric car gets an impressive 230 miles per gallon in the city (and, all shaky rating practices aside, that's nothing to scoff at). Autoblog Green's just taken one of Chevy's 80 IVER pre-production prototypes for a little spin, and they seem to have come away pretty impressed with the car. - Jeff P. Henderson from Bookmarklet
I would definitely buy one of these over the Prius - Mo Kargas
I would have to reserve judgment until I had a chance to drive both and see how the quality compares. The 230 MPG is that GM is advertising is complete BS by the way. - Jeff P. Henderson
I don't know why they persist on those measures - Mo Kargas
Isn't it an electric car? a gallon of what? - Rodfather
It has a small gas engine to recharge the battery pack for extended range. - Eric Logan
Wonder where the exhaust pipes are for that engine - Mo Kargas
Isn't it going to be like $40K though? :( - Derrick
Probably more - Chris Heath
GM will have to price it so that people will buy it. They already stated that they were going to be selling it at a loss, at least initially. - Jeff P. Henderson
Jorge Escobar
Check out what HTML5 is capable of http://html5demos.com/
pretty cool... some of the text ones and the drag and drop didn't work in chrome, but the drag anything one did - Chris Heath
'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Jeff Jarvis
Google Dumps Gears for HTML5 - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
It's official: Google is ditching its homegrown Gears offline web app API in favor of backing HTML5 for the win. Now that the Chrome browser is becoming available for Mac, and the Snow Leopard OS doesn't play nicely with Gears, Google has decided to trash the whole works and wait for HTML5, even though the spec isn't yet ready and isn't supported by commercially available browsers. - Jeff Jarvis
Good to hear, although I'd like to know of a good replacement for drag and drop file upload. I've wanted to use that in our stuff for a while- it's so much slicker. - Matt Mastracci from iPhone
Jeff Jarvis
I hope this is @carr2n's last eulogy for the dying media and the start of many birth notices for what follows: http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
yeah it was a good article, has he done more of these in the past? - Chris Heath
Chris Saad
i thought they weren't pulling in twitter because of some technical change? now it's a legal thing? if it is, im doubting ff will fight - there's just no reason - except for jesse, mona, louis a few others, most seem to have left - and i still think the service will shut down at some point. my hope is that the actual technology finds a home somewhere because it is pretty darn good. - Allen Stern
Paul Buchheit
Integrating into Gmail -- never thought of that as a possibility before. - Brian Sullivan
Think of it as "live email" - Paul Buchheit
The only problem I see is that advertising may not be the best way to make money from it. - Brian Sullivan
@paul, Is it correct to replace email? - Hasan Ozgan
Hasan, I don't understand your question. - Paul Buchheit
A wave-gmail integration sounds like quite the challenge. Perhaps the real-time text updates will happen and will be useful, but I can't see the conversation fragmentation of Wave being a good thing for Gmail. - Mitch
While I admire the approach of releasing something that's pre-beta, it seems there is quite a risk that people will think, "oh, I tried Wave and didn't get it," and they will not come back to it for a long time. - Laura Norvig
Laura - Google wants developers in there making cool stuff in the lead-up to the public release. If it were only developers trying out each others tools, things would be stagnant. - Mitch
I live and work in Gwave - business partner could not access wave due to inferior connections in Manchester and working in docs again was such a backward step! - Callie O Farrell
That's true, Mitchell, I forgot about all the gadgets people are developing. Also, Gina Trapani pointed out that the one interface that most of us see when we opt in to "try wave" is not the only interface available. I would love to see some samples of simpler/different interfaces. - Laura Norvig
@paul will wave ever replace email? - Hasan Ozgan
Hasan, no, it will augment email. - Paul Buchheit
The fact that Google Wave was not part of Gmail's roadmap and in fact is positioned as "the future of e-mail" was a sign to me that Google is now large enough to suffer the kind of organizational dysfunction that has done in its predecessors. As you mentioned, e-mail will be with us for a long time. It would have been better to position it as "the future of collaboration" and indicate... more... - Dare Obasanjo
Speaking of gmail-wave integration: http://www.engadget.com/2009... - Mitch
There was shortage of wave invites when it came out but now people are waiting to give wave invites. I didn't see any of my friends returning to wave after they used it once. I log into wave everyday just to see if there are any improvements. - ashish
Paul - Great insights! I too feel Wave is most suited as a team collaboration / productivity tool. The biggest hurdle is loss of context and convo structure. Once the wave team better organizes the UI, then it can go mainstream. Wave integration with gmail would be super cool and highly useful, plus it greatly would speed up user adoption. - Susan Beebe
I just posted my comment above on your blog, facebook and here - LOL :) - Susan Beebe
Mitch - cool share, thanks - Susan Beebe
"The chronological flow of the conversation is lost." That's exactly the issue. Playback tries to address it but doesn't quite. I think there are other ways to do this, that will be tried both inside and outside Google. I'm thrilled that Google didn't force the Wave team to be part of Gmail from the start, because that would have added all kinds of unnecessary constraints. This way Wave can try lots of new stuff and Gmail can adopt what sticks. - Daniel Dulitz
It's Sharepoint started from the web side instead of Office - Nick Lothian
I had assumed that at some point Google would merge Wave and Gmail. It seems the natural progression. Also, I think the linearity problem will be addressed when they can figure a way to easily mark the new replies so that you can quickly see them - maybe in some from of selectable overlay or view of the wave - Martha
Don't we think they should merge Gmail and Wave because we don't check our waves as often as our emails? What if we all had a cross-browser and mobile notification system for both Wave and email? Since I have installed the Chrome checker extensions for Wave and Gmail, the question of a merger doesn't make any sense. I can easily email and wave the same way I use Facebook, Friendfeed and... more... - Jérôme Flipo
PS: here's the Wave extension I use http://www.jeremyselier.com/entry... - Jérôme Flipo
No, I think Google should merge Gmail and Wave because many times in the middle of an email conversation I wish I had wave functionality. Because the conversation has gotten hard to understand and I want to play it back. Because different subthreads have different people on them for no good reason. Because an idea has turned into a proposal and the words aren't quite right. - Daniel Dulitz
Here's a specific type of merger I think could work. Wave "merges" with Gmail, GChat, and Docs, in that whenever you create an email/IM/doc you are creating a wave. Anyone can see that wave in its full realtime nonlinear glory from the product Wave. Any wave you have (whether started from Docs or email or...) can be seen in Wave. But Gmail, GChat, Docs, etc. provide only some functions... more... - Daniel Dulitz
@Daniel Dulitz sounds somewhat like how social networking aggregator such as friendfeed works. This way Google wave will aggregate all the activities of gmail,Gchat, docs and other "google activity" in one place. - ashish
I am not so sure about Gmail or Gchat and how you would integrate them-- as Wave seems to have similar and some cases superior functionality that supplants them but being able to collaborate on the production/editing of Google docs in real time perhaps using Google voice conferencing would be nearing a game changer. - Brian Sullivan
That would be great, Daniel. But I think it would require *a lot* of work for some teams at Google and some good explanations to users. I'm sure we'll find specific usages for Wave. Personally, I would let the service grow by itself, without complicating other services. Imagine if I start a Wave and some of my friends participate in it through Docs, some other from Gmail: many troubles... more... - Jérôme Flipo
@Dare: I disagree that Wave is evidence of organizational dysfunction (not saying there *is* not such dysfunction, but Wave certainly doesn't prove it). Whether you love it or hate it, and whether or not you think it will be successful, I believe it's evidence of a company that wants to continue to take risks and innovate in the face of organizational momentum. Why wasn't Wave part of... more... - Joel Webber
It seems like the only big issue is the non-linearity of Wave. So, instead of merging other products to offer alternative (somehow), why not let the creator/owner of a Wave choose if blips should be linear? - Jérôme Flipo
Well Paul, I also think Wave is very clever. Yet I see a few problems regarding the launch process: 1. They launched it exactly like Gmail, by reducing invitation supply & delaying invitation delivery. Yet, unlike an e-mail account and a web based e-mail client this is a collaborative tool that you can not use alone. That's the main reason most influencers and early adopters are... more... - Cem ARGUN
Regarding my proposed merger... I think part of the problem of Wave is that it has too much capability for many people, but real experts (may) like the full-on experience. So let's make everything a wave. Experts interact with those things in Wave or some other full-on experience. But people in the slow lane can interact with _the same wave_ using "views" they are more familiar with --... more... - Daniel Dulitz
Jérôme, in addition to "linearity" there is also the issue of edits versus replies. Also, what do you mean by allowing the creator to choose if blips should be linear? Transforms are sequential today; the whole question is how to extract "(conversational) linearity" from "mere sequence." Linearity is a UI issue. Why allow the creator to specify the reader's UI, instead of leaving it up... more... - Daniel Dulitz
My definition of linearity is rather basic, as is my English :) I meant "non-threaded" conversation, just like here. I think most of the confusion comes from realtime hierarchical conversations: we can't determine easily where the discussion is going at a given moment. As a doc, a Wave must support sub-threads, but as a conversation it may be helpful to oblige participants to respond to... more... - Jérôme Flipo
Keep in mind that's there's a difference between the Wave Protocol/Architecture, and the Wave client, just like there's a difference between SMTP/IMAP and Outlook (vs Gmail). If the UI is not streamlined for a particular use case, then perhaps other clients can be designed which leverage Wave infrastructure, but provide a more optimal experience for a given problem space. - Ray Cromwell
Jérôme, in my view not even email obliges people to respond only to the most recent email in the thread. Maybe Wave should always show a compressed "timeline" view of every event. Perhaps a very zoomed-out icon of the whole wave in the upper-left corner of the wave, showing its blip structure, nesting, etc., with hotspots everywhere there's a change you haven't read yet. To the right of... more... - Daniel Dulitz
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Happy Birthday Leo! - Chris Heath
EDIT: You are crafty. Original: Leo, don't go with the Win7 surpassing OS X. See Paul's article: http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs... - Eric Geller
Leo, you're my hero! - J.D. Wegner
Tease: - Leo Laporte
Happy Birthday Leo!!!! - Pearletta Wilson
Happy Birthday Leo!!!! - david
Leo, we can't all fit in your suitcase for CES. - Eric Geller
Happy Birthday Leo it's cool that you're doing what you LOVE on your birthday! - John Brazel
Happy Birthday Leo! - Matt Pollari
Happy Birthday Leo! Congrats on another great year! - Sean
Happy Birthday Leo Thank you for all you do. - Jess Newcomb
Happy Birthday! - Johnny Worthington
That is the greatest Twitter quote ever, Jerry! - Johnny Worthington
Happy Birthday Leo! Gefeliciteerd! - Willem (@wim66) ☠
Great communicators are the most valuable thing - Johnny Worthington
Happy Birthday Leo! - Jim Bednarz
Happy birthday Leo !!! Greetings from Brazil! - Pedro Rodrigues from iPhone
Kindle in Canada is crippled version in that the web browser is useless - Greg
Happy Birthday Leo!! - Doug
You know what... now that I think about it... I WOULD be interested in when Jerry is having a sandwich... he's fascinating... - Johnny Worthington
very good point by Jerry - Jim Bednarz
Walmart in Canada has no competition - Greg
The only reason my parent's bought a PC is because they couldn't afford a Mac. Now that netbooks are cheap, they bought one of those. They wanted a computer, not a type of computer. - Johnny Worthington
I was just at Walmart looking at laptops for 30 mins and left without purchasing since no one asked me if I needed help and Walmart so called 2 day deal was the same price 10 days ago - Greg
Happy Birthday, Leo!! Enjoy yourself!! - Garmon Estes
I drove 45 minutes across Brisbane just to visit the Apple Store (only one in Queensland) - Johnny Worthington
The Office 2007 Professional Plus download (pre SP2) is 457 MB - Jim Bednarz
That's fine, but in return can we take out the amount of forced business sales out of the market share numbers? - Johnny Worthington
People still use ME and Windows 98. 'Normal' people use a computer because it works, not because it's the latest. - Johnny Worthington
happy birthday Leo God bless.............ZZZZZZZZZZZ - Pam Gwenzi
Adjusted for inflation? :P - Johnny Worthington
In Soviet Russia, Face pokes you! - Johnny Worthington
*cough*.. How much did Yahoo pay for Geocities... *cough* - Johnny Worthington
They can't sell overpriced drinks on-line - Johnny Worthington
I have a new business model... Selling tiny GPS trackers for Leo's stuff - Johnny Worthington
Thank you Jerry!!! What an immense pleasure to hear your commentary on the show this evening. - Jim Bednarz
Happy Birthday Leo! - Jayesh
Happy Birthday Leo! - David Schmidt
Jerry doesn't take to much time, everyone else just interrupts him :P - Johnny Worthington
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... looks to be locked for non established users - i did add in a citation for the claimed download numbers (from 2006) so i'm sure it's even higher than 80,000 now - Chris Heath
Leo Laporte
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buonasera, listening from Italy - alex
Leo, good news. Your answer to my radio call-in question last week (about my computer crashing) was dead-on. It was a logic board problem! And it didn't cost that much to replace. Thanks for the advice! - Eric Geller
I'm so happy, I don't even mind that my name was misspelled in the show notes for that day! :P - Eric Geller
Happy Birthday, Leo - Peter Costello
Who needs tech tv,we have twit network! :) - pcguru626
good 2 have u back on the air leo good show hi from georgia - daveccorey
leo,these kids a so dang rude. it's sad how they are acting. lol - pcguru626
Leo, I sent you a tweet with the link, but here is the Bill + Melinda Gates interview: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id... - Eric Geller
Handbrake? I use that to convert from .TOD to H.264 - Johnny Worthington
Hey Leo is it alright if I give out the URLs for the direct TWiT video feeds (the Cachefly XML files) to people asking about video? - Eric Geller
Leo, your promo should be about figuring out all your Black Friday purchases. - Johnny Worthington
Leo. With time comes wisdom. In your case sir, time is just catching up :P - Johnny Worthington
Happy Birthday to the Mayor/King of the Interwebs! - SAL
SAL, actually the President http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner... --> Happy Birthday Mr. President! - Chris Heath
Happy Birthday, Leo! - J.D. Wegner
Right; and thanks Chris, mixed up my Heads of State... I live in a monarchy/blossoming right-wing state ... - SAL
lol - Chris Heath
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