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Hi Mark ... Cool use of Twitter :) - Ideas At Random

I'd love to know how they use FriendFeed there: http://cdevroe.com/notes... - Colin Devroe

Another great sushi restaurant that tweets is @sushininjarva though they've unfortunately been silent for the last couple of weeks. - Travis Smith

No one knows. - Colin Devroe

Real time commenting is sweet! - Kyle Slattery

Kyle: It is very, very sweet. - Colin Devroe

I WRITE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO HEAR ME! - Jeff Johns

LOUD AND CLEAR JEFF! - Colin Devroe

LOUD NOISES - Rob Sandie

this is pretty nice, still not sure how i would use it. - Jeff Johns

I only use Google Wave.. it's better - Rob Sandie

Jeff: If they had a desktop application for the Mac (like Tweetie) I probably would use it more. - Colin Devroe

We have a group: http://friendfeed.com/viddler - It auto-gathers stuff from Twitter. - Colin Devroe

Colin: true - Jeff Johns

I'm just glad it's not as ugly as it used to be. Though the lighter gray text on a white background is still pretty horrific - Kyle Slattery

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okay., I am out - Rob Sandie

Yeah, comments are hard to read. But they have themes now, right? http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Colin Devroe

the Orion theme looks like Kyle's old blog. - Colin Devroe

wow, rob just rocked it out - Jeff Johns

This has been happening to me all the time for a couple of weeks now. Strange, it used to work fine. - David Lee

we see this regularly too, sadly - Eric Case

Yup, it's really annoying! - Martin Cleaver

Seeing it here too! And only in Fluid. Todd, any update on this? - Colin Devroe

I wrote a script to automatically kill and restart all fluid apps every 12 hours - so far gmail and my other fluid apps have been running much better. you can grab it here - http://mjg500.tumblr.com/post... - Marc

I had similar problems with Google Reader. I found the problem fixed after I reinstalled the fluid app. - Rohit

The would be interesting to find out. I just heard there are 10TB of photos uploaded daily. Can anyone verify that? - gfurry

Wondering the same... it's a seminal site for the global community, such a part of the world zeitgeist. It even survived a Yahoo buyout, here's hoping it survives past Yahoo. - Robert Denton

I don't know- but would like to- but get this; I consider myself a somewhat "casual" user, but I have a flickr pro account. Personal photo collections are important. I suspect I'm not alone. - Doug Haslam from twhirl

This was posted earlier... http://twitter.com/allspaw... - Piers Karsenbarg

10TB daily. That is a "Wow!" - Robert Miller

according to this study, only 4% are pro accounts http://www.scribd.com/doc... . However, the sample is pretty much restricted ann would benefit from a broader survey. - Platini

Personally I have moved over to Ovi 100%. Having the ability to snap a shot and post right to the service with ease is top notch in my book. And free to boot. - Sloan Bowman

The free Flickr account has some major limitations (max 200 photos), so I think the numer is higher than you might think. - Mike Doeff

@Sloan Surely you can do that with flickr with most mobile phones? - Piers Karsenbarg

Name recognition has value -- I have never heard of Ovi. - Robert Miller

Yes, someone knows that. :P - Glen Campbell, B.A.

LOL @ Glen! - Her Lindsay-ness

Glen: would love it if someone shared the numbers. I'm working on a Fast Company column. - Robert Scoble

Never understood why they embraced video too. There are many other excellent sites out there to do that. - Ian May

Ian: it's hard to do advertisements in pictures. Video ads are a lot easier. - Robert Scoble

Probably many of the people at the bottom of this page could tell you: http://flickr.com/about/ Not sure why you'd trust numbers from anyone else. - Jason Wehmhoener

I'm sure the people at Yahoo would tell you not enough. - Aram Zucker-Scharff

The number and total size of all photos uploaded to Flickr pales in comparison to Facebook. - Ryan Craver

Is there a place where this can be validated? - Robert Miller

Perhaps a recently fired employee like George Oates? http://george08.blogspot.com/2008... - Paul Reynolds

Guessing the number will change quite a bit on February 1, 2009 when all at&t and Verizon Broadband users lose their free pro accounts - Brian O'Neil

I had a "free" flickr Pro account until Jan 1st through AT&T. Got an email that it will change. I'll have to pay $25 a year to keep it. That's a big fail in my book. They get enough of my money for very little. - Mary Wehrle

I kind of doubt anyone within Yahoo! would legitimately share that with you. I certainly don't know. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

@Mary Wehrle My flickr Pro account through Verizon expires 1/1, too. I couldn't imagine being without it -- $25 is a small price to pay for what they offer. All of my best photos are there, full size, whenever I want them. - Karoli

Very unlikely that Yahoo would share this information. Transparency has never been Flickr's strong suit. That said, the number is probably very low somewhere in the 3-5% range I'd hazard as a guess. But many of the non Pro accounts are old abandoned accounts. Of active accounts the number would likely be higher and Pro accounts would certainly make up a much larger percentage of the total activity on the site. - Thomas Hawk

I think I counted a statistically relevant number of photos of the most recent randomly uploaded photos to the site and if memory serves correct about 50% of the uploads come from Pro accounts and 50% come from free accounts. - Thomas Hawk

I don't think that Flickr likely generates a meaningful amount of revenue or earnings for Yahoo. The potential has always been there for them to monetize it much more significantly of course but they haven't done the best job at that. It still is an *incredibly* important property though. Probably the most significant asset owned by Yahoo at this point and does represent the largest highly organized collection of photographs in the world. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas is right - of the number of *active* accounts (defined as people who comment and participate, and upload photos expecting to attract comments), most of them are pro. Just look at any discussion thread on the site and they'll all have the "pro" tag. I'm sure that they're dwarfed by the number of inactive accounts, but those inactive accounts don't cost Flickr much money. - Eric P

Oh and Yahoo completely botched the biggest opportunity to monetize it, which would have been by making it easy for Flickr members to sell prints or stock photography through the site. Flickr could have owned that market, but they never showed any interest in it - instead they farmed it out to third parties. Weird if you ask me. - Eric P

Eric, I agree, I never really understood leaving those opportunities on the table. - Jason Wehmhoener

RTFM: When you have a free Flickr account, you can upload 100MB worth of photos each calendar month. This is a bandwidth limit, and not an amount of space that you have on Flickr servers. - Robert Denton

@denton seriously doubt their incoming bandwidth is even 5% of their outgoing. - Hayes Haugen

Yeah the 100MB limit always seemed more an attempt to stop people from uploading thousands of web pics in one go rather than any serious rationing of bandwidth. - Eric P

Flickr is not handling even the outsourcing of their stock business to Getty well. I've got a blog post coming on that soon. - Thomas Hawk

Steelers FTW. Lifelong fan. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Benjamin, you could set up a wishlist, set the keyword or title to steelers, and restrict the genre to sports. Adding the HD broadcast however: ehhh, maybe add the keyword HD? More info: http://www.tivo.com/mytivo... - Mark Trapp

E A G L E S Eagles! (Though I have Limas Sweed on my fantasy team!) - AJ Kohn

He could restrict the channel to the HD Channels, but that may take more than one subscription - RAPatton

Yes, there is a button called "Suckage!" that you use to record Steelers games. At least that's how the Tivo in Baltimore is set up - jerry

Go Stillers Go!! - B. Hatin

1UP Jerry - Akiva Moskovitz

why would you want to do that - the giants are the only football team worth cheering for! - Allen Stern

Big Ups to the Steel - adolfo foronda

I wonder how that would work with the leagues "flex" schedule this year. I think Mendenhall may have a shot at rookie of the year. - Andrew Smith

I used to do this by doing a search and telling it I was interested in anything Steelers. Isn't that feature still there? - Colin Devroe

Just a couple days!!! Unfortunately I don't think SLC will play many steelers game local... I'm going to be spending a lot of time at the bars... - Tim Costantino

For the curious: you can accomplish this by setting the keyword search to "Steelers" and limit to the HD: Sports: Football category. - Benjamin Golub

Check for updates in the SSB... it will automatically update itself - Mike Hussein Cohen

I suppose I was just trying to avoid checking for updates on every single SSB. - Colin Devroe

hey colin, unfortunately, no there is no way to run software update for all SSBs at once. I agree it sucks, but after much consideration and discussion I've solidly decided that this is the least sucky of several sucky solutions to updating multiple SSBs. If you want pointers to the discussions, I can dig them up in the Google Group. Bottom line, the software update mechanism is not changing in the foreseeable future. good news is, it's only 2 clicks per SSB :0] - iTod Pouch

How about checking the "check for updates" setting by default. Then at least every SSB updates itself when launched without us having to think about it. (And it is kind of tedious to always have to enable that checkbox by hand.) - Alexander Kucera

I had this question awhile back.... as did others: http://getsatisfaction.com/fluid... It does suck, but it seems like it's not going to change. - Chris Messina

kind of a harsh reaction out of the blue in that thread. anyways, my suggestion would actually not mean a new feature. just a different preference. instead of manually checking the auto update in every SSB, just have it checked by default. not that hard or time consuming methinks. but I digress. - Alexander Kucera

i think defaulting 'check for autoupdates' to 'on' would be good. i'll try to remember to do that. - iTod Pouch

cool. glad you like that suggestion Todd. thanks for considering it. - Alexander Kucera

I'm not sure what keyboard shortcuts you're referring to, but if you mean the ones you activate within Gmail (j,k,o, etc...), they work fine on my end. - Yanik Magnan

Colin, can you give an example of a shortcut thats not working? - iTod Pouch

Todd: Thanks! It is really handy for people that love using Spotlight, like me. - Colin Devroe

i'll admit my bias here... i'm a spotlight h8r. Switched to Google Desktop a couple of months ago... I find GD infinitely more capable. At the same time, although I'm a fan, I dont trust Google (see recent viacom debacle where Google turned over sensitive user data without even putting up a fight), so i understand why many won't use GD... so precipitate works with GD too huh? interesting... - iTod Pouch

+1 to adding arbitrary data sources to Precipitate and setting different Fluid apps as default handles! (ie load Google Docs documents in my Google Docs fluid app; my Brightkite photo objects in the BK Fluid app. - Chris Messina

Any update on this? I'm finding myself wanting this more and more as I get used to using Precipitate. Perhaps I can hack it myself somehow? - Colin Devroe

i guess this request is really just a request for some way to set a Fluid SSB as a handler for certain URLs opened by the system. I agree that would def. be great, but I'll also be straight with u.. i dont think i'll be tackling this anytime soon.... i'm open to ideas on how to accomplish this, but so far the ideas I've heard/had are a bit hacky and not something I'm very eager to set out to do... :0[ - iTod Pouch

cont'd... the best idea for this i've heard is a separate background app that the user would set as the system default browser. This separate app would have some kind of UI for configuring apps for certain url patterns. anytime a URL is clicked, it would route the url to the correct SSB (or any other app really). This particular idea is not really tied to Fluid at all, and should prolly be a separate project altogether. also, *anyone* could take that up.. doesnt need to be me. - iTod Pouch

cont'd.. so in other words... if anyone wants to do this... be my guest! ;0] - iTod Pouch

this might be what i described: http://www.rubicode.com/Softwar... - iTod Pouch