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Photographer James Rhodes Thinks It’s Ok to Threaten People With Violence on the Internet - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

October 11 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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I was deeply troubled by comments made in a Flickr forum that I admin by Photographer James Rhodes. His Flickr account is here where he goes by thevikingjames. He’s on Facebook here. For some reason Rhodes seems to blame me for internet harassment that he feels he’s suffered on the internet for admining an uncensored group on Flickr. He claims to have stalked me at the Dream Machines Show this past year in Half Moon Bay and has written that I didn’t know how close I came to being mugged by him at that event. Note. This is someone that I’ve never met in life and had no signficant interaction with on the internet prior to him making these sorts of threats. He’s made threats against other people in this internet forum as well. I’m not going to get into the details of this specifically, other than to say that I found it offensive that he’d suggest that he was stalking me at a public photographer event. And that he’d threaten physical violence against people over differences in photography... more... - Thomas Hawk

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On his web site, he says he's "someone a bit more talented than [Thomas Hawk]." Yet I can't find any of his photos. And threatening your family is lower than low. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, Thomas. Good luck. - Celine Chamberlin

The sort of people who are capable of (and have a tendency to) carry out acts of violence, do it rather than talk about it on the internet. The sort that talk about it are usually morons who've been kicked around most of their lives and are just wannabe 'gangsters'. The internet is the only place that's going to happen and sadly for them, it only happens in a virtual, non real way. Not very satisfying. I wouldn't worry about him. - Gary

Sad, very sad. - ChiliMac

caution is advised - imran

Ugly, hope it doesn't escalate anymore, if it does there should be enough grounds for some sort of legal action. - Grant Bierman

: ( what is on his website right now is terribly disturbing. - carlotta fancypants

yeah carlotta. I've blocked him here. - Thomas Hawk

Chris Nixon to Chris's feed, Photography United

Is Zooomr dead? It seems there is not much life left in the old dog. Zipline is very quiet. The blog hasn't been updated since January. Help forums aren't being moderated or even responded to. It just seems, well, over. I'm interested to know what people know. Am I wasting my time uploading to Zooomr nowadays?

August 25 - Comment - Like - Share

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I've not been by there very much lately. As great as the community is, as well as the photography, the site has been so slow for me over the past year or so that I find it unusable. It is a shame too. - Andy Roth

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I have no complaints about the usability, and I second Andy's thoughts on the community, but it does seem like Kristopher has lost interest. It's a shame really, for Zooomr never pulled the kind of censorship/deletions that Flickr is currently catching a lot of heat for. - Dave Roth

yep Zooomr's move to Japan killed it as Kris is distracted; and it feels like TH is too busy Flickr bashing to push Kris into making zooomr compete - Phill Price

I have to say that a great number of my contacts on Flickr and Friend Feed were originally Zooomr contacts of mine. When things were working well, Zooomr was a really fun, exciting place to hang out, and really accelerated my interest in photography. Flickr doesn't do that for me at all. - Dave Roth

Agreed with everyone here about the community. I remember waiting for the updates to the site with TH and Kristopher on Zooomr TV. Sadly I haven't used the site in ages myself. - Brian Sloane

Those were good times waiting for the next big update to roll out. Except for the times when the next big update took the site down for a month. - Andy Roth

thomashawk would be a good one to ask ... - johnpiercy

I think I'm going to stop uploading. I do get the occasional fave, but I'm not putting the effort in I should either. I like Ipernity, so I may put my efforts in there. - Chris Nixon

I don't think we'll get an answer from TH, and to be fair, he's probably not in a position to comment freely. - Chris Nixon

I think you are right, Dave. The community has kind of been lost. It would be nice to have a re-union somewhere on the web to catch up and see how all the old crew are doing, and what they are up to now. - Chris Nixon

Been asking this question in my head for a long time. TH hasn't posted anything to the Zipline in over a year and Kris is too busy working on his next "big thing". If only there was some transparency. According to Alexa, traffic is down from a year ago and Compete looks just as bad. My guess is that Kris' new sites are what is keeping Zooomr alive because they probably run on its underlying framework. - dbcohen

For a while it seemed that they were going in the direction of mobile photo sharing, then they just seemed to miss the boat as other sites came along and overtook. - Chris Nixon

I made the decision to stop posting photo's to Zooomr about 2 months ago as I decided to concentrate my efforts to a more limited number of sites and unfortunately Zooomr was the first to go. I'm now focussing on my sites including SmugMug and using flickr to share with family. - Russell G

When I get a chance I'll stick a shart up with my fave and comment rates for flickr, ipernity and zooomr (can only get view details from ipernity sadly) - Phill Price

http://ff.im/78ydy <-- my data around is zooomr dead from a comment / fave standpoint - Phill Price

I agree that support and communication from Kris and his staff has been sorely lacking. I believe in Zooomr and those that frequent it enough to continue to support it. I find it counter to the principles and participants of the site to abandon it when things appear to be lacking, just to go join anther faceless site. If you believe in it, you should support it. That's what will make it better. Leaving is just a cop out. - Skip Moore

BTW, I believe much of this discussion should be on Zipline, out in the open, for all to see. - Skip Moore

I'm just glad people are discussing Zooomr again. It's still a good place. - Dave Roth

Skip: It's not that I don't support it...it's that I don't think they support it any more. If the founder and staff aren't active. What is the point? - Chris Nixon

Ever since Kristopher moved to Japan, there have been no significant updates to the Zooomr web site and very few comments or communication from Kris. Whatever Kris has been working on seems to to be much more important to him than maintaining Zooomr. He seems to have all but abandoned the Zooomr web site. I have not heard much about his Mobile activities in the last year or so either. Sad really, Zooomr had a great community when Kris was actively developing and participating in it. - Jeff P. Henderson

I'm still posting on Zooomr and get more traffic/faves on my photos there than I do on Flickr, but that's probably because I have more contacts and longer history there. There needs to be a perception that Zooomr will be maintained and updated, that clearly isn't happening now. And there needs to be actual updates. I sincerely hope Zooomr isn't dead. If Kris has moved on, maybe someone else can step up and take it over. - Gary H

I agree with Gary. I get far more traffic/faves on Zooomr than Flickr. The community may be small on Zooomr, but we are very supportive of each other. I would hate to see it end. - Celine Chamberlin

I'm getting misty-eyed just seeing a lot of old friends in this thread. - Dave Roth from iPhone

I used to use it, but got busy and stopped, I did seem to get more activity there than flickr... Recently thought about setting up a little script to email something to zooomr like I'm doing on flickr, but could not find out how... - Grant Bierman

I still upload to Zooomr but I do feel like it kinda died. It would had been a nice free competitor or a free version of Flickr if only they kept working on it. - Outsanity

Everyone, thank-you for your continued thoughts and comments in regard to Zooomr. I know that I haven't been doing a very great job at keeping everyone up to speed on the latest and greatest, but the Zooomr Japan team and I have been working in silence on something that we want to share with everyone before the end of the year. I really feel that the direction that Zooomr will take in... more... - Kristopher Tate

Thanks for the update Kris, I look forward to seeing what's coming. - Grant Bierman

Cheers for the update Kris. Much appreciated. - Chris Nixon

Thank you, Kristopher. I really appreciate the update. Keep it up. :) - Celine Chamberlin

Thanks, Kris. It's good to hear from you again. - Dave Roth

I love how Kris pops his head out when public mention of his neglect for Zooomr come out, it's like clockwork. Months of silence in the help groups and support emails, then one public outcry and he's right there. While he's here, maybe Kristopher would like to talk about the money that was invested in Zooomr from both investors and members, and where that money went when Kris up and... more... - Mr350Z

I update my zooomr http://www.zooomr.com/photos... photos regularly as with my other photos sites, that API feed also goes to my photos for sale at http://www.clustershot.com/richard... - Richard Lazzara

Good to hear from you, Kris. Thanks for the update. Color me hopeful. - Andy Roth

TH's take on where Zooomr stands... "It's sort of running on autopilot at this point -- I do hope that Kristopher does something interesting with it in the future, but for a while I've been pretty disconnected from it all and certainly am not doing any sort of CEO duties at this point. " http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Mr350Z

I love how comments are "adjusted" after the fact, in order to counter later comments...amazing. - Mr350Z

As far as I'm concerned it was dead long, long ago. EDIT - this also explains why TH has so much time to devote to Flickr bashing. - cecily

Cecily, Zooomr isn't dead. It does have its issues, but I'll take that over the censorship issues Flickr has. As for TH, he said he left Zooomr because he and Kristopher had different ideas on which direction to take things. - Celine Chamberlin

Censorship, schmensorship. When are people going to learn that unless you're hosting your own photos on your own server that you have to play by the site owner's rules - even if those rules seem totally arbitrary? - cecily

Cecily, if I pay for an account at a site (and I am a paid Flickr user), I expect to at least be warned before permanent action is taken... especially givven how often Flickr is proven wrong and all they can offer is an "oops, my bad" while the user is screwed. Paying for an account should offer at least some rights for the user. - Celine Chamberlin

Thomas Hawk

A Humerous Take on Photographer Harassment From the Colbert Report - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

February 3 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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Put This Thing To Bed - http://www.zooomr.com/photos...

December 16, 2008 from Zooomr favorites - Comment - Like - Share

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Thomas Hawk

Former Flickr Designer George Oates on Getting Fired by Yahoo! - http://thomashawk.com/2008...

December 17, 2008 from Thomas Hawk's Digital... - Comment - Like - Share

deden m. ihsan, Celine Chamberlin, Noah David Simon and 14 other people liked this

I stayed up until about 2:30am that night, chain smoking and talking to friends who saw my tweet and had responded - THANK YOU. I sent a formal request for time to transition The Commons program to whoever is to take it over: 'A week should do it,' I said. It was denied. (It would be unfair to give anyone affected by the lay-offs special treatment.) It's not just my treatment I worry about here. Such a sudden movement makes it especially hard to continue the program effectively, at least for a while. So silly. I sent a few tersely helpful emails before my email account was closed. Couldn't resist. Don't let The Commons die, you buggers! Can't you see how wonderful it is?!?!?" - Thomas Hawk

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this is unfortunate to hear. The Commons is one of the more important things that Flickr is/was working on. - Thomas Hawk

A link to the Flickr Commons. http://bit.ly/AjDT - Dave Winer

To fire George seems a very bad idea to me. There's a great discussion about it in Flickr Ideas: http://flickr.com/groups... - Ole Begemann

who needs flickr to do what we can do? go to a museum and steal a pic - Noah David Simon