Mark: Stop pressing F5! You'll kill it more!
- Lee Stacey
it could use some more points of failure me thinks
- Brian Hendrickson
not only productivity is up - so friendfeed too
- Cem Dalgic
some more points of failure? ;) i think i know what you mean ;)
- roger byrne
tweet.IM keeps pinging and returning Error 500s
- Jason Salas
from IM
At least they can't blame Blaine Cook this time...
- Lee Stacey
maybe Twitter's offline because they're installing their XMPP support *crossing fingers*
- Jason Salas
from IM
Productivity is down. I was going to post a short update, and then I got distracted, and now I've forgotten what I was going to do afterwards :(
- Larry Hudson
I am wondering if ev gets called in the middle of the night each time twitter goes down?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Was just thinking that! Although wait... here we are on FF.
- Joanna Butler
surprised that no-one from Twitter has updated http://status.twitter.com/ - main site now talking about database maintenance and should be back up in 30 mins
- Conor Ogle
I wonder if this will finally motivate Twitter to change frameworks/backends. Blaine's original "Ruby on Rails" doesn't scale comments come rushing back.
- Jason Salas
from IM
Hehe, and for once I can't be blamed. As I haven't twittered since the 4th of this Month :-D
- Richard A.
I've just failed over to the hot standby system known as friendfeed
- Ewan
Twitter is a complete disaster for me, since Jan 30. I can't see updates anymore, just one every 1-3 hours from new people I follow, and have other issues. Still no answer from help desk. What if I had to work with Twitter?
- PaperDoll
I think for his next trick, David Blain should keep it up for 1 year strait... Twitter that is...
- John Reynolds
from Nambu
[∞][twitter isn't the problem, when we are talking about productivity [...] it's more to help them create a problem, how you act can be one!] [[db]]
- dbalieiro
I think it might have been bigger news had Windows Live Search come out with this.
- David Wilson
So, they are announcing something similar to Google Notebook, except it will automatically save some searches into said notebook sometimes. Great use of resources. Yahoo needs to really *push* something. This evolutionary (for them) stuff is not going to cut it. Look at Latitude. Tech world is going nuts over it.That should have been Yahoo. Anyone ever use Fire Eagle? Unfortunately, they can't really blame anyone but themselves.
- Lee Adkins
1. poor Yahoo. 2. Scoble, It's good to have you back from Davos.
- Dana Dowell
1. poor Yahoo. 2. Scoble, it's good to have you back from Davos.
- Dana Dowell
@Lee, the problem for Yahoo is the early adopter crowd are already loyal Google users. Yahoo's core products are simply too far behind to compete for that audience. They should stick to providing their mainstream audience with simpler services.
- Steven Cains
@cains you may be right, they compete with aol, not google
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Robert, doesn't your post make a case for appealing to Alpha Geeks? And if it does, how does this point jive with your opinion that too many companies are building for geeks and forgetting about the everyday user?
- Andrew Warner
Andrew: if you want to be successful you've got to build for both. Build something just for the geeks and your market will be small. Build just for the mass audience and it'll be lame and won't get talked up.
- Robert Scoble
Andrew, appealing to early adopters is not optional. Late adopters don't have time to evaluate all the options; they ask their early adopter friends what's good.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert is right on as usual. I am cheering for Yahoo (partly because of my investment) but was disappointed to not be able to check out Yahoo's release except for a video. That being said, being a Mac user, that was all I could do w/Latitude as well.
- Craig Mische
how bout simply because it's just Google Notebook added to search as the primary reason? I watched the video, and I wasn't a least bit impressed.
- Duncan Riley
Yahoo is and will go the way of the dinosaur
- Bob Sonin
I agree with Duncan it isn't exactly innovating.
- Nicholas James
Yahoo is making itself being referred to -- more and more -- in the past tense.
- David Feng
This is the gift every parent wants: a morning to sleep in. It was delicious. Hope you are enjoying your morning with your family. Gotta go, the chaos starts soon! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from email
Gang's gone. SLEEP starts now. Merry Christmas Robert
- Charlie Anzman
Right? I wish him 100 years of good health Robert. It's been some years, but my first Christmas as a dad was spent holding my months old premie, who wasn't supposed to live. He spent that 1st Christmas on my chest; I wouldn't hand him over to anyone, just in case. Now he's 16, 6'1" 201, starting O-tackle and D-ILB on varsity, honor student.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: what a great story! It is the best, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
I love hearing your excitement Robert. With all the chaos in business, careers, controversies etc, there is a universal understanding of the renewing, consuming joy of an innocent beautiful baby or child. Watching from the outside, you remind me of me :) Very happy for you!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
They just get better from here on out.
- Scott Pierce
Beautiful. Have a very happy christmas, y'all!
- Frank Koehntopp
What a sweetie! Merry Christmas to you, Maryam, Patrick and Milan. He looks so peaceful. :)
- Karoli
My kids got up at 6 am, I need a nap right now, yet they are still excited.
- al pascual
It's a start but remember Twitter only reaches a small segment of the potential market
- Dennis Howlett
Dennis: you never know where your next job will come from. The one I got at the depths of the last downturn came from Craig's List. Microsoft job? Came from answering a post on a Microsoft newsgroup.
- Robert Scoble
@gbattle , LinkedIn: http://bit.ly/cjLH , http://leftovertakeout.com - areas of expertise and interest: microblogging platforms, reputation systems, aggregated content, discovery frameworks, automated and social news, music, uncertainty and innovation.
- Greg Battle
Paul: yeah, I created it. Saw a need, made it happen!
- Robert Scoble
Hi, I'm Mark Turner: open-source guru, Wikipedia contributer, and blogger in Raleigh. I'm an innovative, social (and socially-aware) geek. I dream big. I want to build tools that empower people. Twitter: @mtdotnet. Blog: http://www.markturner.net. LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in... . See my blog for more about me. Thanks!
- Mark Turner
Job seekers should replace their resumes with a VisualCV, 750+ companies now participating. You'll need to register to view and share with all "Employers" http://www.visualcv.com/
- Tim Woods
My name is Jeff Standley and I have a Bachelors in Computer Science / Multimedia Studies. My twitter is @lordstandley I would like a job in IT doing something with networks. I'm looking everywhere and relocating is not out of the question.http://jeffstandley.com/resume... I am currently looking for an entry level position since I have little to no experience. I have been using computers for years, with a lot of tech support experience.
- Jeff Standley
Imran Ashraf got a Master degree in Informatics & Economics: best of both worlds ! Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/imranas... LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in... What I would like to do? Change the world ! :D Working on some hobby projects in weekends and spare time, but need some kind of steady job to pay the bills.
- Imran Ashraf
Comparing one's future revenue model to that of Google's success is akin to every hardware company in the Valley comparing themselves to Cisco.
- Louis Gray
E' un articolo profetico e interessantissimo, che il traduttore mi ha spedito ieri per email autorizzandomi a postarlo. E' lungo ma vale la pena leggerlo
- Marco Massarotto
how can it be "technically difficult and weird?" I take it, it's not a completely scalable architecture and would require a large-scale rewrite. How unfortunate if that's the case.
- John Wang
John: it takes more and more processor time the more people you have. They are fighting scaling problems all over the place as they flew past 100 million users. They got more users in the past three months than they had in the first three years of their life. Amazing growth there.
- Robert Scoble
Why do something the right way when you can do it the quick way? Isn't that the American way? :p
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I'll take 1 too - fits me to a T as well
- Susan Beebe
I guess when you get up above a few hundred friends, using Facebook is a whole different ball of wax. Thousands? Isn't it nearly useless at that point?
- David G. Johnson
c'mon stop bashing Facebook for this. supporting millions more users is way more important than enabling a handful of users (OK, probably just one individual) to have more than 5,000 friends.
- Jon Price
You should sell them. It's time for the official Scobleizer t-shirt, and that slogan prob'ly suits lots of us.
- Andy Kaplan-Myrth
We were able to make it work at myspace.. :)
- PaulKats
David: Facebook is far from useless when you have 5,000 friends. Why would you think it'd be useless? It actually gets MORE USEFUL the more friends you have! Facebook is really a big rolodex. Jon: more than 1,000 people have 5,000 friends, they tell me. I small minority, yes. But more are coming.
- Robert Scoble
Ever get the idea that Robert Scoble's brain is wired very differently than the brains of the rest of us?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I suppose Facebook's usefulness when one has thousands of friends depends on who you friend. If one friends 5,000 thirteen-year-olds, that person will be in a world of pain when he or she logs in.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
If I had 5000 friends and I knew folks at Facebook, I would ask for an extra long News Feed front page.
- Andrew
possible248: exactly. On my Facebook are the world's top tech CEOs, geeks, and press. Very useful to me. More useful, in fact, than the 8,000+ business cards I've collected over the past few years.
- Robert Scoble
MiniMage: I hope so, if you all are wired the same as me God help us all!
- Robert Scoble
I don't understand how they can't go over the 5k limit. Are they just assuming that no-one can have more then 5k associates?! Therefore, allowing a higher limit will associate them to be similiar to Myspace when they want to be seen as a social utility?!
- Nicholas James
bah! maybe they have some graph algorithm in n**2 or n**3 or n!-- you have to set a limit -- maybe it would be nice to disable this funky part of the app -- if it could be isolated. Scobble is asking to crash the servers each time he logs in.
- General Kafka
Scobble: have you tried to turn your 5000 friends on FB into LinkedIn contacts ? I find my FB neighborhood very "playful" and nothing like a professional rolodex...
- General Kafka
General: I'm not on LinkedIn. I tried it once and too many people asked me to do things for them so I left.
- Robert Scoble
I am on LinkedIN and I love it, it's very useful for a 20 year old designer. Yet I understand how you felt and why you left, cause I know many people who add people on there just to get stuff from people. I hate it, I would never ask people I don't even know for a favor, I hardly ask people I know.
- Brendon Wadey
I used to enjoy having Twitter update my FB status, but like Nicola, I started getting duplicate posts in the FB minifeed once I started having FF update my FB mini-feed. Now I update Facebook separately. I love having everything collect in FF which feeds the FB minifeed, no more duplicate posts there. If only FF could update the FB status....
- Helen Hoefele
Helen have you any idea how to get the Twitter feed off FB? There are some things I post on FB and not on Twitter and would like to reinstate the FB feed onto FF so they show here.
- Nicola Quinn
Nicola, to stop Twitter from updating your FB status, try this: in FB, in lower left corner under Applications, go to your Twitter App, and make the changes there.
- Helen Hoefele
Matthew: FF adds new features often. That's why it'll succeed. Be careful with the posting feature, though. It can make your Twitter account very noisy if done wrong.
- Robert Scoble
As FriendFeed can automatically update Twitter, I can take care of two birds with one stone each time I post on FF.
- Ernie Oporto
I still use both FF & Twitter. However, I had to turn off some of the FF -> Twitter options, as it DID make my Twittering very noisy indeed for a short time.
- Ian May
Once friendfeed makes it easier to follow conversations (that are not originated by you) it will make it a lot easier to participate. Right now, if you leave a comment on a post that is not yours, you have to go to Comments & Likes to follow it, unless I am missing something.
- Kelly Johns
Kelly -- you can follow posts you commented on wherever they are -- but since it is most likely they will be near the top and findable in your comments and likes list -- that is where you would most easily find it. I don't know why you think that is is difficult though.
- Brian Sullivan
In the picture on the wall is a prototype that takes an entire PC case. On the finger is the current chip. Already they are making things even smaller. Today's chips do wifi, bluetooth, and GPS all on one tiny chip. Tomorrow? Will have accelerometers and other kinds of MEMS (Microelectronic machines) that will do a bunch of stuff that will enable new Google, Nokia, and Apple phones. How significant was this to the world? They are making hundreds of millions per year.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks to the GPS team at Broadcom for giving me a tour. I'm uploading videos from my visit.
- Robert Scoble
Not many people can say they changed the world in a massive way. This team can. Their technology is now inside hundreds of millions of new cell phones every year.
- Robert Scoble
Sometimes we take for granted just how fast this industry moves. Think about it. Eight years and we went from the size of a PC to 1/8th the size of a thumbnail. Amazing.
- Robert Scoble
These devices will be making their way into more than just phones as they get cheaper.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
One other fact that impressed me. The GPS satellite it is sensing is putting out the equivilent energy of a 25-watt bulb. But it is 16,000-miles away. It is a major miracle that this stuff works at all and now they are working on ways to make it work through tunnels, under ground, places where the satellite doesn't reach. How will they do that? Well, that's why I need to upload the videos.
- Robert Scoble
Eric: absolutely, but they already are pretty cheap thanks to the volumes of the cell phone industry (more than a billion phones are sold every year, and every year more and more will have GPS included).
- Robert Scoble
I'm excited about the integrated accelerometers. I've already heard of future applications in the data center for these.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
In 10 years this will seem terribly primitive. "What? You could see it with your eyes?? Pfft!"
- Tad
Eric: the accelerometers are going to work with a datacenter to figure out exactly where you are, even if you can't sense the GPS satellites.
- Robert Scoble
Was working at ICL in the 70s. 2 basements floors of towering whirring computers.Spent my lunchtimes down there. Now all that power's in a tiny laptop.
- Nicola Quinn
Tad: in 10 years we might have that implanted into our brain. Think about that. We might never need to ask for directions again! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I dunno if we'll have it in our brain, but I won't be surprised if that chip is the size of a mote of dust and said dust will begin coating everything.
- Tad
Heh, I think we have a few things we need to learn about the brain before we can talk about that without a hearty guffaw.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Things like this help put scientific growth in perspective.
- Jay
Jason: you would be amazed at what they are already implanting in humans. Usually people who have been disabled.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, I guess you're right, I haven't been keeping up with the prosthetics, but I guess the finger movement for whole-arm prosthetics requires some kind of nervous system interface. Is it neural, or more localized?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Also, there's a big difference between motor coordination and the processing of concepts like "directions".
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: the ones I've seen demoed at conferences like PopTech are neural. True, we have a lot to learn. I bet we figure it out in the next 10 to 30 years, though. The science here is moving very quickly. I met some brain researchers in Davos that told me amazing things.
- Robert Scoble
I am reporting that Maryam is stuffing the turkey. Yes, it is journalism.
- Robert Scoble
Hahaha, too funny. It's like a bird play by play.
- TheSleepyGeek
Oh, stuff that Robert. ;-) (It is not on the #mumbay scale, but it is journalism)
- Arne Hulstein
the true question is: What is journalism and how twitter can contribute to it
- Ouriel Ohayon
Twitter is useful when an event is ongoing. It becomes noisy in the aftermath.
- Paul
Journalism by definition is in the midst of such a profound shift in what it is that the question isn't really that interesting. I am just learning detail about Mubai from Twitter. I link to NYT or BBC or whatever, more often than not lately from Twitter. Everybody is different and that fact is more clear than ever now. Whatever works for you.
- Mary Anne Davis
@Orli, it sure is. I mean, self-aggrandizing aside, I post my newsfeeds on it.
- Terence
According to MW there are many definitions for Journalism. The last entry correlates to Twitter, IMHO. *Writing designed to appeal to current popular taste or public interest* Twitter by default, is a publishing and distribution channel. It "can be" a form of new journalism combined with an integrated wire service. Happy Thanksgiving!
- Brian Solis
No, it's more an eyewitness or spreading rumors thing. Journalism is (or should be) are more profound thing, but it can't be that fast.
- Michael Zehrer
What is journalism? The dictionary doesn't know: "the activity or profession of writing for newspapers or magazines or of broadcasting news on radio or television." Wikipedia says "Journalism is the profession of writing or communicating, formally employed by publications and broadcasters, for the benefit of a particular community of people.". If it is communicating to a group of people (broadcasting) it is. Most of us are a broadcaster, are we all journalists?
- Wilbert
Maybe Twitter as a website is journalism. It is an open community based on peer-review.
- Wilbert
+1 @Michael. It's more like source for journalism - firsthand accounts. Journalists usually report on events that happen to somebody else. Tweets are personal events/thoughts.
- Jared B. Luther
The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in . . . & Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal. I think that the way many people use Twitter does hit that bar.
- Joel Ordesky
It sure is more than a news source. It's citizen journalism. And most times, Citizen Journalism is most accurate and fast than traditional media. Period.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
I think Amy Gahran has some good insights into how it can be great tool for it --> http://www.contentious.com/2008... ... I think it is an awesome resource but still not sure how to best use it. I am very much still exploring it but if everyone at SxSW for example hashtagged and tweeted I would think it surely is journalism.
- John D. Lemke
from twhirl
Journalism, as I see it, is analysis and deep insight. Twitter acts like a witness. No time for analysis just relaying the event, with some superficial observations perhaps but not the profound insight that time makes possible
- Mahesh CR
from twhirl
Twitter v Journalism is like data v information. I watched Twitter last night for the stream of data http://tinyurl.com/6b4wjj and I periodically checked the distillation of that data in Wikipedia http://tinyurl.com/5pbnde but I also read this morning's Washington Post article for the context and analysis http://tinyurl.com/6ya9cl . There's plenty of room for all three.
- Timothy B. Taylor
No, it's not. It's stream-of-conciousness stuff. It's the difference between data and information.
- Sean
Sean: that's bullshit. I can tell a pretty good story in 140 characters.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: you have absolutely no idea what journalism is if that's what you believe. Journalism is the act of me telling you what is happening. No more, no less. I can do a LOT of journalism in 140 characters.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, can you elaborate on how to tell a story in 140 characters? (In less than 140 characters, of course.)
- Tom Landini
Tom: it's partly sunny in Half Moon Bay. That's a story. That's journalism. All in 140 characters.
- Robert Scoble
Even better, downstairs Maryam is yelling at me to baste the turkey. :-)
- Robert Scoble
It's bright and sunny this morning in Berkeley, temperature in the low 60s. This post is 109 characters long.
- Dave Winer
My name is David Winer. This post is 57 characters long.
- Dave Winer
I think this discussion is pointless. Stop the presses! This post is 88 characters long.
- Dave Winer
I've never liked the term "story", gives me connotations of something made up. I know that's not true (sometimes ; ) ). I do think twitter is too limiting for indept analysis, but that's what links are for. Twitter can be used to give flash updates and track an event, but then so can anything that allows you to receive such nibbles of data. It's just another tool.
- alphaxion
in a way; all the major news orgs have twitter feeds however, their posts lead to links of their online stories which are of course a lil more in depth: sometimes
- sofarsoShawn
Robert and Dave: Those statements do tell me what is happening. And I guess that can be a basic form of journalism. But they don't tell me why I might want to pay attention to that. Maybe I was thinking more in the dramatic than the journalistic sense. Good discussion here.
- Tom Landini
There goes Winer again, trying to make a point in a pointless discussion!
- Robert Scoble
Tom: if I wanted you to pay attention I would have said "Free sex under partly cloudy Half Moon Bay skies."
- Robert Scoble
I think the question is whether stuff on twitter can be "Good" journalism
- Wilma Stoneflint
it's istant source of information which could lead to a big news!
- Christian
Memo to Daily Print News Business: Surrender the breaking news beat and focus on analysis and perspective.
- Eric Schwartzman
For an excellent analysis of this issue see "Overload!Journalism’s battle for relevance in an age of too much information" in the current issue of the Columbia Journalism Review http://tinyurl.com/6dxbmj
- Timothy B. Taylor